i met an investigator, she was a nice lady who said there's just a few chronological things to clear up, and i should go out for dinner that night. It was a massive relief. The process sucks but if you're a reasonable person, there's nothing to worry about.
I haven't talk to my family in 5 years now, I only talk to my dad. So what can I put on secret clearance form ? would the interviewers understand or will they still ask me to put something down? Plus I only have 1 friend.
you still put them but you can put notations. I had to make up a name for my father for instance because father is required and i have never met or seen mine. also not on birth cert so just said no father as his name and notated as such. did not get yelled at for that. the forms are super dated they will understand long as you arnt lying.
I’m confused... I did the security clearance form online and then my recruiter told me a day or 2 later I’m good to go that everything came back clear. Now do they do that again in BMT??
It honestly just depends on what info they have when you get there, dont worry about it to much you'll see when you get there, they are pretty organized about things for the most part!
Some jobs require different levels of clearance. Getting into the military is just a general clearance like one they would do at a job. While some jobs in the military require you to get a top secret clearance. Which is like them looking and knowing everything about you, from the suspension you got in 1st grade, to your grandparents elementary school.
So, I was investigated already pretty much right after I started the application process. The investigator called my friends and family and supervisor, etc-long process. They’re going to do that AGAIN? Or has the process changed....?
My dream jobs is between intelligence or cyber security but my problem is that I’m not a born us citizen so do I have to be a born us citizen to enlist for these jobs?
Does it matter if I put down new people for my references when I fill out my SF-86 again at basic? I filled my OG one over a year ago and I don’t remember who I put down on it. I ship Sept. 11th
TS is top secret, SCI is sensitive compartmentalized information. SCI is a separate clearance thats kind of a level above top secret. Its for access to information thats given out on a strict need to know basis.
yes 100%, I'm assuming they check everything that's easy to find. If you have a video of you doing dumb shit that's easy for them to deny you know what I mean. Delete anything dumb and/or private everything.
Are the gonna check who you are dating ? Or are the investigator gonna check our social media record?? Bcause someone said its a specific position in military cannot dating/have a relationship with a non us citizen. Thanks.
Question does security clearance in the AF look into medical records etc? Any kind of hospital related things? Because i was at one just because i needed a place to stay. Was homeless and i didnt fit the criteria to be there so was given the option to leave. But if i did i was going to be on the street. So they asked if they could help me with some kind of resources and arrangements and try to get ahold of any family. So i stayed just because they were going to try to help me find a place or contact family. Is that going to be an issue? I would be heart broken if i get to BMT and get some kind of discharge. Or would they hear my case and judge? Any advice would be great. I'm getting my mouth and cavities fixed just to be able to join and it's alot of money
Scumbag Jay no you should be fine that doesn’t sounds like anything. They typically care about things that have been diagnosed, or mental issues. They also do private like background investigations and we don’t know what they investigate but that really doesn’t sounds disqualifying. That is my opinion though and im not then but to be honest I wouldnt even mention it because its not even really a situation it sounds just like a place to crash
Smdh.... My recruiter never told me I get an interview...after I even asked if there was someone I could talk to about why my finances are the way they are. ...smdh!!!!!!!!!!
This was a really interesting video. Just a little background on me. I may have mentioned this before on comments for a previous video. I went to BMT December 2015. I ended up getting an honorable discharge while in BMT due to anxiety and depression issues that came up. I was going to be enlisting in Client Systems, which I was super excited for. Since I had graduated college with a degree in Geography I was super interested in Geospatial Intel as a #1 job and Weather as a #2 job. I am from the St. Louis area so it's great to see you're at Scott AFB. I attended a junior college right by Scott AFB. I am now trying to work my way on the civilian side to get a job similar to the Air Force Geospatial Intel position. I am currently working as a Geospatial Technician with a company that contracts out work for the NGA, and I am hoping to possibly get on with the NGA at their St. Louis headquarters office and their great new upcoming north St. Louis complex in the Geospatial Intel field. It was great to hear about your TS clearance process. It's really interesting.
Just wanted to chime in and say that I don't think this is how it works anymore. This might not be true for everyone, but in my case, this whole process is happening outside of BMT before I even ship out. Point 1: I got assigned a job before BMT, so that might be why.
ya I got my job but I just got a call to day from an Agent telling me we needed to do an interview on the phone. (On phone because of Covid19) I have signed my contract already but haven't got a ship date yet for bmt. :( Im nervous for the interview tomorrow.
It’s cool to see the path you’ve been on and how similar mine kind of is. I planned to go to college for Art too ( I graduated high school class of 2020 recently) but I’ve decided to pursue a cyber job in the Air Force instead!
I had my security clearance interview over the phone with a person from the national background investigation bureau. And my recruiter said that they haven’t denied it, but have to still wait to match me with jobs. Did you clearance start the same way or was it all done one BMT?
For mine, we did our SF-86 in basic training. I was in tech school when I had my interview, which was in person. That was 2001, so it may have changed since. We had several guys who got put on security hold and had to wait months before advancing in tech school (our last block of tech school required our clearances be final) while their investigations continued.
I was in the USAF Security Service that required a top secret clearance and got it. I have a cousin who went in through USAF ROTC at college. He applied for a security clearance and was denied. The reason -- his uncle was part of the Chicago syndicate and was considered a security risk..
When you fill out your security form and have your interview with your background investigator, it is best to come clean at that time. Later as you progress in your career, you will encounter some positions that may require you to undergo a polygraph examination. You don’t want to have problems during your polygraph examination because you are withholding information or maintaining a lie. You also don’t want to encounter a situation where you’re having to come clean about a lie you put on an earlier security form. That will definitely disqualify you from getting a renewal clearance. Because you will be considered untrustworthy. These kinda lies tend to snowball, the longer you keep them.
I had already moved out and got married when I graduated high school so I was already away from my parents so that helped. I wanted to make my own life, my parents already lived theirs so I didnt wanna worry about them. I didnt wanna go to school anymore so I just joined, it seemed promising and now im here!
I passed MEPS with the USAFR and just completed my electronic SF86 form. My recruiter told me that its been turned into another personnel and he is waiting to hear back from that personnel. it was less than a week ago. This is for enlistment purpose and how long does that take to complete so i can sign my contract and oath in?
So for some reason a charge the investigator found wasn't listed on my paper work even though I disclosed it with my recruiter and my recruiter definitely put it into their system. The investigator asked me why it wasn't listed and I told him I disclosed it with my recruiter and that I wasn't sure why it wasn't listed. Hoping it doesn't come back as if I'm not trustworthy. My recruiter told me its not a big deal because the charges were dropped in court anyways.
I have to make an appointment soon for a security clearance. I had a marijuana charge when I was very young do you know if they will drug test me? I’m not worried about it, it’s just that at MEPS they make you spread your legs in front of a lady and it’s just so much lol i was wondering if that would happen again. So basically do they drug test and if so what kind of drug test?
The investigator/agent conducting your investigation will not have you take a drug test. Keep in mind they do not work for the military. Your recruiter or meps may ask you to take a drug test, but the investigating agency will not. Drug use is a topic of concern on the SF86, however, so you will need to answer the question appropriately when it asks about drug use.
I'm at keesler now for the same job. Once you got to your base, and now that you've been doing the job, how do you like it? Is it stressful, or long days?
keyblade22 it was easy to get I didnt have to wait long or anything. However I've only been in tech school for a couple weeks so I'm not that into it yet
Im on dep for 9s100, and ive been waiting so long that ive done most of this lol. I already met with the investigator and they have spoken to my friends/family too.
What happens if you are at BMT and then get denied your Security Clearance Top Secret or otherwise? Are you kicked out of the Air Force or will you be reclassed to a job that does not require a clearance?
You would likely be reclassed into an AFSC that does not require a security clearance. Unless you were caught lying on your SF86, which would mean big trouble and likely discharge.
Also I was “emo” in school and they hated me and looked for any reason to suspend me and they even harassed me and ended up getting expelled a week before graduation just so I couldn’t attend, I got expelled from middle school because someone threw food and a drink at me, and I was a “distraction” to others because of my looks.
As long as you can explain everything you should be fine, you can't quote me on that because every situation is different but as long as you dont lie and you can explain everything, your chances are pretty good.
I had MEPS yesterday and put down on my SF-86 that I had been fired from my retail job because i was a lazy 17 year old that didn't show up to work one day. Today at my recruiter's office, I saw that I now have a mark on my record about being 'fired for misconduct, etc.' Am I able to appeal this in any way? Not being eligible for a TS clearance basically cuts my job list in half
SpacePopeVII does that seriously make you not eligible? I dont think there is a way to appeal it but you can always ask cause im not sure. Thats sucks hopefully everything works out
@@Sk8Gnarley my recruiter said he's going to bring it to his higher ups and see if he can appeal it, but I'm losing hope. It sucks since I wanted your job or something similar, and they all require a TS clearance. It's kinds dumb how I can't get one because I made a mistake as a dumb, lazy kid. It's not like I was doing drugs or I committed a crime or something
Yeah that doesn't sound right, I know someone who has been arrested for a misdemeanor with charges dropped and he has my job so that seems weird but each situation is different, hope it all works out in the end!
I was asked to resign from a movie theater when i was 16 because i could no longer work on past midnight. Would that affect me getting a top secret clearance
Thank for the video .. it's very useful! I have a question.. so are you able to start ur job before security cleance get approved? I know security clearance takes about 8 month .. thank u
(Nato) A common misconception about the classification of sensitive materials is that there are higher levels then top secret there isnt there is caveats/descriptors 26-30 of them added to top secret so the analyst/operator understands what material he is dealing with
I am planning to join the Air Force as Cryptologic Linguist and I am not a natural born citizen and I do have foreign contacts as in my grandfather and my biological father. How would that effect my investigation?
When you say that you think you need clearance to join the military. Are you saying that because you recognize the clearance process to be secret or because it's just a reasonable assumption?
I told my recruiter that I have tried marijuana once, they said it was absolutely fine and I have my security clearance. But will that prevent me from top security clearance? Thank you
Kuch Nasty I mean yeah in a way you dont really attempt anything. You just get investigated from day 1 basically all the way through tech school and into your first base, not just bmt. Its a weird process.
How do you go upon doing so? Do you ask your recruiter? Sounds pretty good if you get to call people during BMT lmao. But also top secret for the job I want to do would help.
Kuch Nasty you only get top secret if your job requires it for the record. You cant just ask your recruiter they will let you know if you need it. Or when you get to bmt they will already have a list with your name on it. The extra calls are nice though lol
Hey Jonathan I have been a fan of yours for a while now. I am wondering are you ever going to make videos outside of military related things? Because I like watching to hear your stories so I am just wondering are you going to make videos about you or just military? I'll watch either way but just wondering😁
Hunteronix on my channel I actually have another channel linked and its my sort of lifestyle channel and there is some stuff on there. I will definitely be making videos when I get out that are non related to the military because after I get out that chapter of my life will be over. Also on this channel if you go way back I have so super old stuff lol. Thanks for watching I appreciate the interest!
When you graduate from basic, is your family able to bring civilian clothes, laptop, etc, to give to you for tech school or does it have to be shipped to you once you’re there? I hear so many different answers on this topic it’s insane...
Katie Notturno when I was there we were not allowed to bring anything back from our parents, that was a strict no. There was one kid and I think he traded his suitcase for a bigger one but that was about it. My wife had to ship me everything to tech school haha
@@Sk8Gnarley Ye, sorry. Did not realize this is a parody or something like that. Was just kind of surprised initially as you are not supposed to disclose your clearance level to broad public as it raises the risk you become exposed or a potential target, especially once the level goes above regular secret and you sign papers for that (at least I was told...) That's the point I realized you were just joking. So apologies about the harsh comment of mine. About your job in the AF, it seems quite interesting! Where are you actually stationed? We might meet one day as the military is quite a small world, especially the AF. If you ever get the chance to be stationed in Ramstein or Wiesbaden in Europe, I would say: don't hesitate.
Hi I know you posted this a long time ago but I just enlisted into the Navy and I picked a job that requires a top security clearance and I’m scared. I haven’t done any drugs or get in trouble with the law. However, I’m scared I may not be able to keep the job i picked because of some bills I owe but can’t afford so I believe that makes my credit real shitty. Also I didn’t put down on my background form at the recruiters office that I got fired from 2 of my jobs before and that when they ask my previous employers if I got fired, etc they are going to say yes so now will I get in trouble? Or if they call me do I still get a chance to be honest? With the financial part can they see where you owe money to? Like the exact places? Also do they check your medical records? I’m assuming no since that’s against HIPPA regulations.
I wish that I had more info for you but tbh its really on a case by case basis for everyone because everyone has different situations ya know, I think they can see if things went to collections, and they might find out about the jobs? depends on what your investigator finds ya know, I would say don't worry about it too much, there's really nothing you can do because it's up to them, so what's the point of stressing about it ya know? just do your best
So I just found out that my job doesn’t require a top security, just a security clearance. If that’s the case I should be good right? But what if I have bills I owe? But can’t afford them? I don’t even have a payment plan
@@lachlanmaxwell8767 start paying back your bill by getting started on a payment plan and after waiting a whilst paying a little bit of it (20%) you might be off the hook, but for the jobs they would want to know why you got fired. you’d have to be honest. all this depends on case by case basis, yes
@@lachlanmaxwell8767 both are areas of concern when it comes to the clearance process. If it's a TS you're going for, you will definitely need to provide documentation regarding the debts. Also it's best to get some sort of payment plan going to show you are trying to remedy your debts. Finances are the #1 reason a clearance will get denied, so make sure you have something in place showing you are working to pay them off. As for the employments, they will definitely need to talk to someone who knows about the incidents. For a Secret clearance, it's a lot more lenient. Just depends on what type of clearance you need
what is your job in the Air Force? My recruiter is trying to make me do linguist. I heard for them we need a polygraph. I'm pretty sure I'll need a polygraph..
I ship Dec 18. I just had my call yesterday. My job is security forces. Just curious do you know what happens if you don’t pass the clearance? For example let’s say you lied on you paper and said you never smoked or drank and one of your friends say like “ oh yea we hung out so much in college and drink watching football on Sundays “ . And they confront you about it, what happens🤔🤔😂 (btw i just created that in my head)
I have no idea what happens if they catch you lying. It depends on who you lie to, what you lie about and when you lie. I wouldn't want to findout though lol.
Im sure if you tell the truth about something petty you wont get in trouble. But if you lie it shows that you are untrustworthy and your probally going to get a discharge.
Thank you, I'm actually going through this process right now and was hoping to find something on it so it helped a lot!
Glad I can help!
How did it go
i met an investigator, she was a nice lady who said there's just a few chronological things to clear up, and i should go out for dinner that night. It was a massive relief. The process sucks but if you're a reasonable person, there's nothing to worry about.
I haven't talk to my family in 5 years now, I only talk to my dad. So what can I put on secret clearance form ? would the interviewers understand or will they still ask me to put something down? Plus I only have 1 friend.
HeroKeepOnMarchingOn I’m in the same situation 😐 I only have one friend
I don’t even talk to my parents anymore but I have a few friends what should I do? Also I moved out from my parents house what should I do??
you still put them but you can put notations. I had to make up a name for my father for instance because father is required and i have never met or seen mine. also not on birth cert so just said no father as his name and notated as such. did not get yelled at for that. the forms are super dated they will understand long as you arnt lying.
I’m confused... I did the security clearance form online and then my recruiter told me a day or 2 later I’m good to go that everything came back clear. Now do they do that again in BMT??
It honestly just depends on what info they have when you get there, dont worry about it to much you'll see when you get there, they are pretty organized about things for the most part!
Some jobs require different levels of clearance. Getting into the military is just a general clearance like one they would do at a job. While some jobs in the military require you to get a top secret clearance. Which is like them looking and knowing everything about you, from the suspension you got in 1st grade, to your grandparents elementary school.
Hey man love your videos! Did they contact all of your past employers or just the most recent ones?
So, I was investigated already pretty much right after I started the application process. The investigator called my friends and family and supervisor, etc-long process. They’re going to do that AGAIN? Or has the process changed....?
Hey Jonathan I have a question what’s the best way to contact you?
Did you have a job before you went in or were you open electrical?
I had the contract for the job before I left
What kinda of questions did they ask your referencez
How did you do that and other people didn’t? What did you do differently to do “top secret clearance”
My dream jobs is between intelligence or cyber security but my problem is that I’m not a born us citizen so do I have to be a born us citizen to enlist for these jobs?
I'm not sure on the specifics on what jobs you can and can't do, my wife was in the same boat we got the specifics from my recruiter
No, you can be a naturalized citizen, but your immediate family has to be citizens as well; which means your parents and siblings.
Yeah if your parents/siblings aren’t US citizens you get reclassed. It happened to one of the people in my flight. @OMNST
@@jackson_69_69 what if only one of them is not a citizen but the rest are?
Does it matter if I put down new people for my references when I fill out my SF-86 again at basic? I filled my OG one over a year ago and I don’t remember who I put down on it. I ship Sept. 11th
Nah I dont think it will be a problem, I dont think I used all the same people either. Good luck shipping!
Jonathan Sullivan Awesome, thanks so much for the reply!
Hey, I leave September 11th too. Maybe I'll see you there.
KingHumanjr Cool, if you haven’t already feel free to join the GroupMe for Sept. 11th shippers, there’s a bunch of us on there
Thomas Breazeale Sweet, how do I join?
Do they check internet history and emails
Does security forces require this?
I don't think so, I don't know for sure but I'm pretty positive you only need secret.
@@Sk8Gnarley thanks for the reply!
I have seen the TS/SCI abbreviations on job postings. Is that the security clearance you have or is it that something different?
TS is top secret, SCI is sensitive compartmentalized information. SCI is a separate clearance thats kind of a level above top secret. Its for access to information thats given out on a strict need to know basis.
No insight into how we should answer?
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Good luck!
Do they check your social media accounts?
yes 100%, I'm assuming they check everything that's easy to find. If you have a video of you doing dumb shit that's easy for them to deny you know what I mean. Delete anything dumb and/or private everything.
Which jobs can get top secret clearance? Can/Does Security Forces get it?
OMGitsAthenaa security forces doesnt get it that I am aware of and idk what jobs get it, but I know mine does!
What are the chances of a Poly?
Only for working for the NS A
Operations intel does not require you to pass a poly fusion analyst does
Are the gonna check who you are dating ? Or are the investigator gonna check our social media record?? Bcause someone said its a specific position in military cannot dating/have a relationship with a non us citizen. Thanks.
I dont know exactly what they check, it depends on your investigation solely.
Question does security clearance in the AF look into medical records etc? Any kind of hospital related things? Because i was at one just because i needed a place to stay. Was homeless and i didnt fit the criteria to be there so was given the option to leave. But if i did i was going to be on the street. So they asked if they could help me with some kind of resources and arrangements and try to get ahold of any family. So i stayed just because they were going to try to help me find a place or contact family. Is that going to be an issue? I would be heart broken if i get to BMT and get some kind of discharge. Or would they hear my case and judge? Any advice would be great. I'm getting my mouth and cavities fixed just to be able to join and it's alot of money
Scumbag Jay no you should be fine that doesn’t sounds like anything. They typically care about things that have been diagnosed, or mental issues. They also do private like background investigations and we don’t know what they investigate but that really doesn’t sounds disqualifying. That is my opinion though and im not then but to be honest I wouldnt even mention it because its not even really a situation it sounds just like a place to crash
Smdh.... My recruiter never told me I get an interview...after I even asked if there was someone I could talk to about why my finances are the way they are. ...smdh!!!!!!!!!!
This was a really interesting video. Just a little background on me. I may have mentioned this before on comments for a previous video. I went to BMT December 2015. I ended up getting an honorable discharge while in BMT due to anxiety and depression issues that came up. I was going to be enlisting in Client Systems, which I was super excited for. Since I had graduated college with a degree in Geography I was super interested in Geospatial Intel as a #1 job and Weather as a #2 job. I am from the St. Louis area so it's great to see you're at Scott AFB. I attended a junior college right by Scott AFB. I am now trying to work my way on the civilian side to get a job similar to the Air Force Geospatial Intel position. I am currently working as a Geospatial Technician with a company that contracts out work for the NGA, and I am hoping to possibly get on with the NGA at their St. Louis headquarters office and their great new upcoming north St. Louis complex in the Geospatial Intel field. It was great to hear about your TS clearance process. It's really interesting.
That isn't the best situation to end up with but it looks like things are working out well for you so congrats on that!
@@Sk8Gnarley Hey Jonathan I have a question what’s the best way to contact you?
Just wanted to chime in and say that I don't think this is how it works anymore. This might not be true for everyone, but in my case, this whole process is happening outside of BMT before I even ship out. Point 1: I got assigned a job before BMT, so that might be why.
How long did it take you for you to get your security clearance?
Good to know
ya I got my job but I just got a call to day from an Agent telling me we needed to do an interview on the phone. (On phone because of Covid19) I have signed my contract already but haven't got a ship date yet for bmt. :( Im nervous for the interview tomorrow.
@@Nikkicrafter55 how was the interview
It’s cool to see the path you’ve been on and how similar mine kind of is. I planned to go to college for Art too ( I graduated high school class of 2020 recently) but I’ve decided to pursue a cyber job in the Air Force instead!
Go for it. Cyber will always be needed. One fellow tech to another
Any tips I’m studying for ASVAB, I want to get a cyber job for the Air Force & I’m studying for comptia A+ plus?
I had my security clearance interview over the phone with a person from the national background investigation bureau. And my recruiter said that they haven’t denied it, but have to still wait to match me with jobs. Did you clearance start the same way or was it all done one BMT?
I can't remember if someone called me or not but im like 99% positive they didn't, mine was pretty much all at bmt
Where did you have the security interview ? After meps?
That wasn't for a TOP Level clearance, they will 100% sit down with you.
For mine, we did our SF-86 in basic training. I was in tech school when I had my interview, which was in person. That was 2001, so it may have changed since. We had several guys who got put on security hold and had to wait months before advancing in tech school (our last block of tech school required our clearances be final) while their investigations continued.
i need a top secret clearnace cuz i listed like 3-4 intel jobs on my list of jobs for the air force
I was in the USAF Security Service that required a top secret clearance and got it. I have a cousin who went in through USAF ROTC at college. He applied for a security clearance and was denied. The reason -- his uncle was part of the Chicago syndicate and was considered a security risk..
@pgh45rpms we’re u in security forces basically an MP for the Air Force?
lie detector?
So if you lied to your recruiter and meps do you keep up the lie or do you be completely honest with them during the investigation
When you fill out your security form and have your interview with your background investigator, it is best to come clean at that time. Later as you progress in your career, you will encounter some positions that may require you to undergo a polygraph examination. You don’t want to have problems during your polygraph examination because you are withholding information or maintaining a lie. You also don’t want to encounter a situation where you’re having to come clean about a lie you put on an earlier security form. That will definitely disqualify you from getting a renewal clearance. Because you will be considered untrustworthy. These kinda lies tend to snowball, the longer you keep them.
@Julian Rivera While it’s a possibility, it is NEVER enforced. You have a better chance coming clean. Trust me, I know.
Really wanting to join the Air Force but I think the main thing holding me back is just leaving home. How did you deal with that when you joined?
I had already moved out and got married when I graduated high school so I was already away from my parents so that helped. I wanted to make my own life, my parents already lived theirs so I didnt wanna worry about them. I didnt wanna go to school anymore so I just joined, it seemed promising and now im here!
Don't be a wimp
@@Sk8Gnarley If you tried marijuana once can you still pass your security clearance for Cyber Systems ?
I passed MEPS with the USAFR and just completed my electronic SF86 form. My recruiter told me that its been turned into another personnel and he is waiting to hear back from that personnel. it was less than a week ago. This is for enlistment purpose and how long does that take to complete so i can sign my contract and oath in?
So for some reason a charge the investigator found wasn't listed on my paper work even though I disclosed it with my recruiter and my recruiter definitely put it into their system. The investigator asked me why it wasn't listed and I told him I disclosed it with my recruiter and that I wasn't sure why it wasn't listed. Hoping it doesn't come back as if I'm not trustworthy. My recruiter told me its not a big deal because the charges were dropped in court anyways.
Damn thats crazy, hopefully it all gets sorted! Good luck!
what was the outcome?
Liyah Biyah I’m still in the air force and still have my security clearance so it worked out lol
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Good luck!!
I have to make an appointment soon for a security clearance. I had a marijuana charge when I was very young do you know if they will drug test me? I’m not worried about it, it’s just that at MEPS they make you spread your legs in front of a lady and it’s just so much lol i was wondering if that would happen again. So basically do they drug test and if so what kind of drug test?
The investigator/agent conducting your investigation will not have you take a drug test. Keep in mind they do not work for the military. Your recruiter or meps may ask you to take a drug test, but the investigating agency will not. Drug use is a topic of concern on the SF86, however, so you will need to answer the question appropriately when it asks about drug use.
I'm at keesler now for the same job. Once you got to your base, and now that you've been doing the job, how do you like it? Is it stressful, or long days?
Dirty Burger hey man im trying to go for the same thing was it hard to get that particular job? How do you like it so far?
keyblade22 it was easy to get I didnt have to wait long or anything. However I've only been in tech school for a couple weeks so I'm not that into it yet
How was the clearance process for you? Did they call you like as soon as you took the job?
3 years later how has your experience been? would you recommend?
Im on dep for 9s100, and ive been waiting so long that ive done most of this lol.
I already met with the investigator and they have spoken to my friends/family too.
Same here lol
I was so interested in that afqt!! I ended up going cryptolinguist
@@FDroid01 how do u like it?
What enlisted jobs in the AF require the highest level of clearance?
What happens if you are at BMT and then get denied your Security Clearance Top Secret or otherwise? Are you kicked out of the Air Force or will you be reclassed to a job that does not require a clearance?
Any answer to this?
You would likely be reclassed into an AFSC that does not require a security clearance. Unless you were caught lying on your SF86, which would mean big trouble and likely discharge.
You'll get thrown into security forces or maintenance as they are the most in demand positions.(not good jobs)
Can I pass if I'm a NEET or we we too untrustworthy?
Whats a neet?
I put down on my form at the recruiter's office that I wasn't fired from a job. Should I clear that up with him now or just wait till I go to bmt?
Do half-siblings affect my security clearance?
How difficult is it to obtain TS?
Extremely
So you can’t have collections? Also I don’t have ANY friends by choice would that hurt me?
Also I was “emo” in school and they hated me and looked for any reason to suspend me and they even harassed me and ended up getting expelled a week before graduation just so I couldn’t attend, I got expelled from middle school because someone threw food and a drink at me, and I was a “distraction” to others because of my looks.
Sorry I haven't watched this vid in a while, what do you mean by collections?
As long as you can explain everything you should be fine, you can't quote me on that because every situation is different but as long as you dont lie and you can explain everything, your chances are pretty good.
Oh in this video you say they ask about debt and collections. I mean I can explain it and it’s good reason so hopefully I’ll be okay
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Then all you have is a TS. You don’t have SCI. SCI requires a polygraph. Lifestyle, counterintelligence, or both
I had MEPS yesterday and put down on my SF-86 that I had been fired from my retail job because i was a lazy 17 year old that didn't show up to work one day. Today at my recruiter's office, I saw that I now have a mark on my record about being 'fired for misconduct, etc.' Am I able to appeal this in any way? Not being eligible for a TS clearance basically cuts my job list in half
SpacePopeVII does that seriously make you not eligible? I dont think there is a way to appeal it but you can always ask cause im not sure. Thats sucks hopefully everything works out
@@Sk8Gnarley my recruiter said he's going to bring it to his higher ups and see if he can appeal it, but I'm losing hope. It sucks since I wanted your job or something similar, and they all require a TS clearance. It's kinds dumb how I can't get one because I made a mistake as a dumb, lazy kid. It's not like I was doing drugs or I committed a crime or something
Yeah that doesn't sound right, I know someone who has been arrested for a misdemeanor with charges dropped and he has my job so that seems weird but each situation is different, hope it all works out in the end!
Yup Im getting 3D job. Thanks for explaining this.
Why were you wearing that yellow shirt?
Huh???
@@Sk8Gnarley Its a reference to what you said in the video lol
Sergio Perez oh 😂 sorry its been a while I don’t remember the context
@@Sk8Gnarley No worries man, it has been a while.
Anyone else leaving on September 11th?
Hello, sir.
Careful with what you put on here, bud.
Clearance holds great responsibility.
Thank you.
I was asked to resign from a movie theater when i was 16 because i could no longer work on past midnight. Would that affect me getting a top secret clearance
No I dont think so. Ive quit a ton of jobs lol. Its more stuff with legal repercussions that matter.
Thank for the video .. it's very useful! I have a question.. so are you able to start ur job before security cleance get approved? I know security clearance takes about 8 month .. thank u
(Nato) A common misconception about the classification of sensitive materials is that there are higher levels then top secret there isnt there is caveats/descriptors 26-30 of them added to top secret so the analyst/operator understands what material he is dealing with
I am planning to join the Air Force as Cryptologic Linguist and I am not a natural born citizen and I do have foreign contacts as in my grandfather and my biological father. How would that effect my investigation?
How'd it go?
Did you have to pay for the security clearance?
No, you don’t.
How many people in total do they call or can call? Is it everyone you listed?
Its up to the investigator, wouldn't really be a background investigation if they gave out all that information.
1:07 - Yes every person in the military is required to have a successfully adjudicated T3 investigation (Secret) as a minimum.
Were you able to work your job before you got your clearance?
Yes
What's required for the Nevada Test Site?
Top Secret/SCI
When you say that you think you need clearance to join the military. Are you saying that because you recognize the clearance process to be secret or because it's just a reasonable assumption?
Everyone in my family has a citizenship except for my dad, who only has a green card. Can I still get a TS?
I told my recruiter that I have tried marijuana once, they said it was absolutely fine and I have my security clearance. But will that prevent me from top security clearance? Thank you
no it wont just make sure whatever you tell the recruiter and meps is the story you stick to the entire time during the clearance process
This is at BMT? NOT MEPS?
They do security stuff all throughout the process
thats for TOP secret , i got secret clearance and everything was automated thank god lol
What do you mean by automated,they didn’t call you references?
If you're very lucky maybe you will see the stargate program
What questions did they ask you references when they contacted them?
So you attempt to get top secret during BMT? Sounds interesting
Kuch Nasty I mean yeah in a way you dont really attempt anything. You just get investigated from day 1 basically all the way through tech school and into your first base, not just bmt. Its a weird process.
How do you go upon doing so? Do you ask your recruiter? Sounds pretty good if you get to call people during BMT lmao. But also top secret for the job I want to do would help.
Kuch Nasty you only get top secret if your job requires it for the record. You cant just ask your recruiter they will let you know if you need it. Or when you get to bmt they will already have a list with your name on it. The extra calls are nice though lol
Damn thats rough lmao
Would becoming an officer require top secret clearance?
no but Secret clearance yes
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Heyo, is there any way I can message you? I have a few questions about security clearance
I stream on twitch.tv/sk8gnarley like every night
Hey Jonathan I have been a fan of yours for a while now. I am wondering are you ever going to make videos outside of military related things? Because I like watching to hear your stories so I am just wondering are you going to make videos about you or just military? I'll watch either way but just wondering😁
Hunteronix on my channel I actually have another channel linked and its my sort of lifestyle channel and there is some stuff on there. I will definitely be making videos when I get out that are non related to the military because after I get out that chapter of my life will be over. Also on this channel if you go way back I have so super old stuff lol. Thanks for watching I appreciate the interest!
Jonathan Sullivan Oh ok! Thx for the response. I'll stick around for more😁
When you graduate from basic, is your family able to bring civilian clothes, laptop, etc, to give to you for tech school or does it have to be shipped to you once you’re there? I hear so many different answers on this topic it’s insane...
Katie Notturno when I was there we were not allowed to bring anything back from our parents, that was a strict no. There was one kid and I think he traded his suitcase for a bigger one but that was about it. My wife had to ship me everything to tech school haha
I wonder if the rules changed now that airmen's week comes before graduation.
KingHumanjr it does can you confirm this? How has it changed?
Jonathan Sullivan I can't confirm that but my recruiter just informed me of this.
KingHumanjr okay ill keep it in mind thank youu
Do they still polygraph?
They don't polygraph. Only for very specific jobs
Seriously? If you even had a clearance level above unclassified (so no clearance) you would just have lost it by mentioning it on youtube...
Ok big guy 😂
@@Sk8Gnarley Ye, sorry. Did not realize this is a parody or something like that. Was just kind of surprised initially as you are not supposed to disclose your clearance level to broad public as it raises the risk you become exposed or a potential target, especially once the level goes above regular secret and you sign papers for that (at least I was told...) That's the point I realized you were just joking. So apologies about the harsh comment of mine. About your job in the AF, it seems quite interesting! Where are you actually stationed? We might meet one day as the military is quite a small world, especially the AF. If you ever get the chance to be stationed in Ramstein or Wiesbaden in Europe, I would say: don't hesitate.
@@realburn6845 he’s out the military now
Hi I know you posted this a long time ago but I just enlisted into the Navy and I picked a job that requires a top security clearance and I’m scared. I haven’t done any drugs or get in trouble with the law. However, I’m scared I may not be able to keep the job i picked because of some bills I owe but can’t afford so I believe that makes my credit real shitty. Also I didn’t put down on my background form at the recruiters office that I got fired from 2 of my jobs before and that when they ask my previous employers if I got fired, etc they are going to say yes so now will I get in trouble? Or if they call me do I still get a chance to be honest? With the financial part can they see where you owe money to? Like the exact places? Also do they check your medical records? I’m assuming no since that’s against HIPPA regulations.
I wish that I had more info for you but tbh its really on a case by case basis for everyone because everyone has different situations ya know, I think they can see if things went to collections, and they might find out about the jobs? depends on what your investigator finds ya know, I would say don't worry about it too much, there's really nothing you can do because it's up to them, so what's the point of stressing about it ya know? just do your best
So I just found out that my job doesn’t require a top security, just a security clearance. If that’s the case I should be good right? But what if I have bills I owe? But can’t afford them? I don’t even have a payment plan
@@lachlanmaxwell8767 I really don't know about the bills tbh haha, I think you will be fine especially since it's only secret, good luck!
@@lachlanmaxwell8767 start paying back your bill by getting started on a payment plan and after waiting a whilst paying a little bit of it (20%) you might be off the hook, but for the jobs they would want to know why you got fired. you’d have to be honest. all this depends on case by case basis, yes
@@lachlanmaxwell8767 both are areas of concern when it comes to the clearance process. If it's a TS you're going for, you will definitely need to provide documentation regarding the debts. Also it's best to get some sort of payment plan going to show you are trying to remedy your debts. Finances are the #1 reason a clearance will get denied, so make sure you have something in place showing you are working to pay them off.
As for the employments, they will definitely need to talk to someone who knows about the incidents.
For a Secret clearance, it's a lot more lenient. Just depends on what type of clearance you need
Do you get to choose what clearance you will get?
No
what is your job in the Air Force? My recruiter is trying to make me do linguist. I heard for them we need a polygraph. I'm pretty sure I'll need a polygraph..
Yes make sure it’s something you want to do go online google Airforce jobs
Wait, so basically, you get multiple interviews over and over in basic? I thought there were only like. 3.
Cool video man. I was wondering about this. Keep up the dope videos man!
Nikolas Feliciano thank you! Glad you I can help
Jonathan Sullivan I’m heading for the same job here in November, super pumped but have like ZERO knowledge about computers lol
How many interviews is there?
Depends on everyone's specific situation, theres a good amount though.
Thanks for the video. Now I know more about security clearances and am better prepared to handle one.
I ship Dec 18. I just had my call yesterday. My job is security forces. Just curious do you know what happens if you don’t pass the clearance? For example let’s say you lied on you paper and said you never smoked or drank and one of your friends say like “ oh yea we hung out so much in college and drink watching football on Sundays “ . And they confront you about it, what happens🤔🤔😂 (btw i just created that in my head)
I have no idea what happens if they catch you lying. It depends on who you lie to, what you lie about and when you lie. I wouldn't want to findout though lol.
Jonathan Sullivan lol right 😂
Im sure if you tell the truth about something petty you wont get in trouble. But if you lie it shows that you are untrustworthy and your probally going to get a discharge.
So if its petty and not that big of a deal then tell the truth. If its a big deal try picking another job that does require a top secret clearance.
Tyree Mason right right, I’m really ready to go and get this journey started though