4:30 So...a little bit more detail that was left out, which I feel should be included... After Hasbro did that ban hammer, there were a few people who actually caught wind of this and disagreed heavily with what Hasbro did. So they stepped up and basically assisted the "Fighting is Magic" devs (Mane6) develop their own fighting game, now sold as "Them's Fighting Herds". These people include: 1) Lauren Faust, the creator of the MLP:Friendship is Magic series. She drew the devs unique characters, so they could use them without fear of reprisal from Hasbro. 2) People at Arks Systems Works, the developers of Guilty Gear and BlazBlue, gave them their net code for stable online play. 3) People at Lab Zero Games, the developers of Skullgirls, gave them their fighting engine - so they didn't have to be bound by the freeware "fighting game maker" software.
I was coming down to the comments to mention "Them's Fighting Herds" myself, so thumbs up. Means he biffed with the whole "the Bronies got nothing" line, because instead, they just transitioned to a more complete game they COULD sell for profit, instead of a small game that was going to be %100 free to try and avoid Hasbro's wrath...
Unfortunately, the story mode for TFH was recently canned by Mane 6's publisher. From what I've heard the publisher thought it would be better to try and monetize the game through DLC fighters.
I didn't know the story that deeply, but did know that there was more to it than what was covered since all the work didn't go to waste. At the end of the day the original one was still ruined so it qualifies for this list, but that can be said about most fan projects that get too popular.
Pretty much the only time a C&D on a fan project was a good thing, since Them’s Fighting Herds came out so much better than Fighting is Magic ever was.
.....Still just can't keep y'all's mouths shut. Still haven't learned. -_- (Edit) Though, if it is still out there and you're just trying to spread that word. Then I can respect that.
As a Christian gamer, Christian video games and Christian media for the most part tend to suck. They tend to talk down to people and think they have to spell out the message or you will miss it without giving the enjoyment that gets people to want to listen to that message. Tolkien, Lewis, and Rowling did it right. I once spoke to the pastor at LevelUp Church who told me they had made a mod for World of Warcraft and put it up on the market. I braced myself and asked "Did you put any Christian material in it?" to which he said, "No sir! We just made a fun mod and said it was by LevelUp Church." What a relief.
I would disagree regarding Christian music. I don't see a forced message or the tendency to talk down to people there. However, I know exactly what you're talking about with Christian movies. I can't comment on Christian video games. I never played them.
Command and Conquer 4 is why I hate EA with a passion. I'd rather "Jack Sparrow" any game they have that I like than throw my money at them. I will never forgive them for what they did to C&C.
With Command Conquer 4, I think there was also the issue that the final design was made with tablets and smartphones in mind instead of an actual PC. Regarding Descent: there is Overload, it was apparently made by creators of descent and it seems to have a positive rating.
Fighting is Magic became Them's Fighting Herds. Lauren Faust creator of Friendship is Magic bailed out the developer Mane 6 Reskined the roster and the game came out.
Final Fantasy XIII was originally going to be a whole lot better, before the lore that SquareEnix had spent like 2 years building got scrapped a month or two before launch by the suits. That's the main reason the first game was...lacking compared to XIII-2 and XIII-3.
Fighting is Magic definitely became Thems Fighting Herds and slowly that went down as well when the Dev team got broken up and had the story mode abandoned yet apparently we got two more fighters to add to the roster
I blame Modus/Maximum Games for what happened to TFH, mostly due to how passionate Mane6 were about the project, and that (for whatever reason) Modus/Maximum seem to now own the TFH IP and have pretty much shelved it indefinitely. Honestly, the downfall of the game just makes me really sad, as it is actually quite good (and I very much enjoyed the Story Mode, what little of it there was).
There are games out there that would benefit from some new AI, and better voice quality. Combine the two, and you'd get maybe the best Hey You Pikachu ever. What games can you think of that could benefit from advances in technology, that are begging for a remake by that virtue?
Did I miss something? Star Wars the Old Republic was and still is amazing! I don't remember hearing anything about the end game lacking at launch. And I've been playing since launch myself.
I'm flabergasted by the existence of the My Little Pony game. I mean I only casually enjoyed FiM, but a Fighting game seems to me, to go against everything that show was about. 0_o
Oh my god. I had NO idea Descent Underground got completely bastardized by NFTs. 😱 No wonder I completely lost track of what happened to it. Thanks for the info. Big F in the chat from me. 😓 At least there’s Overload, made by original descent devs with a few neat nods to the series and acting sort of like a prequel. And if you like roguelites, there’s Sublevel Zero.
To give Mask of Eternity some credit, it's a decent action-adventure game, nothing great but decent. Unfortunately it's far from a King's Quest game, besides the whole genre-shift it takes place in basically another world, with no effort at all to reference the places/people/or established lore of the previous games. As for FiM well yeah it was revived as Them's Fighting Herds but no happy ending here, I don't have enough info for the finale "real" reason(s) but most likely lack of funds/mismanagement/publisher shenanigans caused that game to be...frankly unfinished, the core is done, but with only a snippet of storymode, and development completely ceased, we are stuck with the ghosts of what might of been.
feel like phoenix point should be here and their great decision at the last time to take epic's scumbag deal and made the game exclusive to them for a year even for those who paid in advanced and funded the kickstarter to make the game in the first place.
The funny thing about Mask of Eternity being Christian-focused is that the only thing I remember about the game was a cheat code that made your character completely nude
How the hell can you make a list like this and not have SPORE? A game EA forced remake and even made changes after Creature Creator launch to make it even worse.
@@chisaten Well, it is only that because it was a series of last minute changes. Game almost done? Change this. Almost done? Change one more thing. Is an old title now. So am sure many people might not know the development process. Maxim actually leaked what they had done before EA ordered changes. It was better than the released game. In line with what was on list lie Tiberium and Transformers. I mention creature creator because it highlights what I mean. Before about a month before Spore launched, They put out a creature creator tool to help populate library. At that time, design mattered. Many legs with fast feet? Were fast. Many claws, were dangerous. Creatures could specialize. Well, spore launched. They decided that was to complex and so stat values were based upon single best piece of kit. And the hide spore launcher to do everything creature design came to me. All creatures do everything equally.
so Jagex ruined ANOTHER game? wow, they are notorious for doing the opposite of what their customers want. reminds me of an old story i read about Circuit City. that was one of the reasons THEY went out of business.
Something that i really hate about EA is that for whatever the f*** reason Disney actually thought it'd be a fantastic idea to give EA the rights to any and all Star Wars games for the longest damn time and EA thought it'd be a fantastic idea to cancel multiple Star Wars games that sounded and looked like they would've been really fun and unfortunately Star Wars Battlefront 3 was one of those cancelled games and instead they remade Battlefront into a total and complete s*** show except for the Battlefront 2 remake that was actually pretty fun but eventually EA thought it'd be funny to cancel any and all support for that game just so they could continue support for The Sims 4 for many many years to come and so they could also work on Battlefield 2042 but guess what EA eventually ruined The Sims 4 and from what i've read and heard EA even messed up on Battlefield 2042 oh yeah and unless another game company a better game company decides to work on them there still isn't going to be a Battlefront 3 nor any proper remakes
Who made the great Star Wars games of Jedi Outcast 1/2, and the fairly fun Games with Starkiller/ Vader's secret apprentice? Also EA made the great last two Jedi survivor and Jedi Fallen Order. Those and and the Bioware games were all pretty damn good. But the other EA battlefront and flying games all sucked with micro Trans and lame stories!
Imagine if… the whole Kojima/Konami destruction was ALL orchestrated. Stay with me, the entire fallout was constructed, with everything to play out with Konami wilfully becoming a scapegoat and taking the reputation smash, after Survive. For then years later to reinstate and remake their flagship properties only for the precise moment when it says ‘Directed by Hideo Kojima’. It isn’t the case I imagine, but this scenario is definitely something only Kojima could and would craft. To which the fan base whose lives have been altered by him would reach a fever pitch of elation, a singularity of pure idealistic perfection. Thinking about this really makes me wish for, but makes me sad at the reality.
I do not give one flying F*ck if you or anyone else hates the Fandom. im a Brony, a Fan animator, and a Fallout gamer. Im gonna make what i want to make. The fandom aint going anywhere.
4:30 So...a little bit more detail that was left out, which I feel should be included...
After Hasbro did that ban hammer, there were a few people who actually caught wind of this and disagreed heavily with what Hasbro did. So they stepped up and basically assisted the "Fighting is Magic" devs (Mane6) develop their own fighting game, now sold as "Them's Fighting Herds".
These people include:
1) Lauren Faust, the creator of the MLP:Friendship is Magic series. She drew the devs unique characters, so they could use them without fear of reprisal from Hasbro.
2) People at Arks Systems Works, the developers of Guilty Gear and BlazBlue, gave them their net code for stable online play.
3) People at Lab Zero Games, the developers of Skullgirls, gave them their fighting engine - so they didn't have to be bound by the freeware "fighting game maker" software.
thats actually pretty damn cool! I know about Lauren Faust, but not the other two!
I was coming down to the comments to mention "Them's Fighting Herds" myself, so thumbs up. Means he biffed with the whole "the Bronies got nothing" line, because instead, they just transitioned to a more complete game they COULD sell for profit, instead of a small game that was going to be %100 free to try and avoid Hasbro's wrath...
Unfortunately, the story mode for TFH was recently canned by Mane 6's publisher.
From what I've heard the publisher thought it would be better to try and monetize the game through DLC fighters.
I didn't know the story that deeply, but did know that there was more to it than what was covered since all the work didn't go to waste. At the end of the day the original one was still ruined so it qualifies for this list, but that can be said about most fan projects that get too popular.
Addendum: Lauren's husband, Craig McCracken (Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Wander over Yonder) came up with the name.
I mean, Fighting is Magic did get repurposed as Them's Fightin' Herds, and that was pretty good.
And they got designs from MLP:FiM's creator as a result, too!
Pretty much the only time a C&D on a fan project was a good thing, since Them’s Fighting Herds came out so much better than Fighting is Magic ever was.
.....Still just can't keep y'all's mouths shut.
Still haven't learned. -_-
(Edit) Though, if it is still out there and you're just trying to spread that word. Then I can respect that.
As a Christian gamer, Christian video games and Christian media for the most part tend to suck. They tend to talk down to people and think they have to spell out the message or you will miss it without giving the enjoyment that gets people to want to listen to that message. Tolkien, Lewis, and Rowling did it right.
I once spoke to the pastor at LevelUp Church who told me they had made a mod for World of Warcraft and put it up on the market. I braced myself and asked "Did you put any Christian material in it?" to which he said, "No sir! We just made a fun mod and said it was by LevelUp Church."
What a relief.
I would disagree regarding Christian music. I don't see a forced message or the tendency to talk down to people there. However, I know exactly what you're talking about with Christian movies. I can't comment on Christian video games. I never played them.
Jules' view on EA is very accurate.
It's funny that's they used tank control because of tomb raider, even though the controls are the worst part of the game.
Me enjoying the video whilst eating a delectable pastry … 11:55 *puts eclair down*
That's an unfortunate choice of consumable.
Command and Conquer 4 is why I hate EA with a passion. I'd rather "Jack Sparrow" any game they have that I like than throw my money at them. I will never forgive them for what they did to C&C.
With Command Conquer 4, I think there was also the issue that the final design was made with tablets and smartphones in mind instead of an actual PC.
Regarding Descent: there is Overload, it was apparently made by creators of descent and it seems to have a positive rating.
I agree on Overload. I have played it, and I like it.
Our favorite family Jules-“I swear ‘BAYBEE!’ isn’t the final product”
Also refuses to change it lol
Tiberium Twilight hurts and I wish we would of gotten a real Command and Conquer instead of what we got.
Fighting is Magic became Them's Fighting Herds. Lauren Faust creator of Friendship is Magic bailed out the developer Mane 6 Reskined the roster and the game came out.
What?
Final Fantasy XIII was originally going to be a whole lot better, before the lore that SquareEnix had spent like 2 years building got scrapped a month or two before launch by the suits. That's the main reason the first game was...lacking compared to XIII-2 and XIII-3.
"the last game you'll ever play" allways means play our shyte and you will swear off of video games forever
Fighting is Magic definitely became Thems Fighting Herds and slowly that went down as well when the Dev team got broken up and had the story mode abandoned yet apparently we got two more fighters to add to the roster
I blame Modus/Maximum Games for what happened to TFH, mostly due to how passionate Mane6 were about the project, and that (for whatever reason) Modus/Maximum seem to now own the TFH IP and have pretty much shelved it indefinitely. Honestly, the downfall of the game just makes me really sad, as it is actually quite good (and I very much enjoyed the Story Mode, what little of it there was).
I'm just waiting for the day my favorite under rated masterpiece for PS2 shows up on ANY list...Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land!
That is one of my favorites as well!
@@bmh8260 it's soooo friggin good. Saw a used copy at a local game store last year going for like $145! Wish I could have picked it up!
Is this something new Jules is doing. Why is the algorithm just now showing me this.
Nope, he’s been doing this for a couple months now
I'm fairly certain that motion could mean cocaine...
There are games out there that would benefit from some new AI, and better voice quality. Combine the two, and you'd get maybe the best Hey You Pikachu ever. What games can you think of that could benefit from advances in technology, that are begging for a remake by that virtue?
Touching of the nose usually means you know something secret. Know = Nose
Did I miss something? Star Wars the Old Republic was and still is amazing! I don't remember hearing anything about the end game lacking at launch. And I've been playing since launch myself.
Seeing that Rascal game unlocked a memory for me. I remember playing it on a demo disc as kid.
No, not my eclairs! 😟
Battlecruiser 3000 AD was fun There aren't enough scifi cap ship sims IMO
The publishers should not get any say in the games development because all they ever do is mess it up
Wouldn't guessing randomly on a quantum physics test on opposite day make for a perfect mark?
In honor of toriyama... Best 10 dragon ball characters from all games.
OH MY GOD!!!! I genuinely thought Rascal was a twisted fever-dream of mine, but it really exists!!
I'm flabergasted by the existence of the My Little Pony game. I mean I only casually enjoyed FiM, but a Fighting game seems to me, to go against everything that show was about. 0_o
Oh my god. I had NO idea Descent Underground got completely bastardized by NFTs. 😱 No wonder I completely lost track of what happened to it. Thanks for the info. Big F in the chat from me. 😓
At least there’s Overload, made by original descent devs with a few neat nods to the series and acting sort of like a prequel.
And if you like roguelites, there’s Sublevel Zero.
Jules has me yelling “Baayyyyy-Beeeeeee” all the time and no one else gets it 😂
Didn’t “Fighting is Magic” get turned into “Them Fighting Herds”?
The only way should ever say thanks EA is filled with sarcasm and i could taste it in Jules's voice
Jules, you're the dude we all need in our life. love you bro
Hey I liked the beast wars game when I was a kid!! Definitely don't go back and play it nowadays but as a kid I had fun lol
Jules, I just woke up, man. Don't let me down bro. Gimme da good shtuff.
Hang on, let me get my coffee.
In ye olde days (ie, the late 90s) they tried multiplayer only C&C with Sole Survivor. Which went about as well as you'd expect.
i've actually played King's Quest 1-3, and found them to be quite fun.
That’s comment about the ex really hit home 😂
You could do an hour-long list of games ruined by EA🤦🏾♂️
To give Mask of Eternity some credit, it's a decent action-adventure game, nothing great but decent. Unfortunately it's far from a King's Quest game, besides the whole genre-shift it takes place in basically another world, with no effort at all to reference the places/people/or established lore of the previous games.
As for FiM well yeah it was revived as Them's Fighting Herds but no happy ending here, I don't have enough info for the finale "real" reason(s) but most likely lack of funds/mismanagement/publisher shenanigans caused that game to be...frankly unfinished, the core is done, but with only a snippet of storymode, and development completely ceased, we are stuck with the ghosts of what might of been.
feel like phoenix point should be here and their great decision at the last time to take epic's scumbag deal and made the game exclusive to them for a year even for those who paid in advanced and funded the kickstarter to make the game in the first place.
Wait did Jules leave WhatCulture?
EA -- We hate gamers and games (their new catchphrase)
The funny thing about Mask of Eternity being Christian-focused is that the only thing I remember about the game was a cheat code that made your character completely nude
How the hell can you make a list like this and not have SPORE? A game EA forced remake and even made changes after Creature Creator launch to make it even worse.
Maybe it is because it is a remake instead of an original that it isn't on here.
@@chisaten Well, it is only that because it was a series of last minute changes. Game almost done? Change this. Almost done? Change one more thing. Is an old title now. So am sure many people might not know the development process. Maxim actually leaked what they had done before EA ordered changes. It was better than the released game. In line with what was on list lie Tiberium and Transformers.
I mention creature creator because it highlights what I mean. Before about a month before Spore launched, They put out a creature creator tool to help populate library.
At that time, design mattered. Many legs with fast feet? Were fast. Many claws, were dangerous. Creatures could specialize.
Well, spore launched. They decided that was to complex and so stat values were based upon single best piece of kit. And the hide spore launcher to do everything creature design came to me. All creatures do everything equally.
The MGS5 endgame annoyed me so much!
Didn't the MLP game turn into Fighting Herds which is mainstream now.
I can't remember the last EA game i bought. Is there anyone else?
Playing through dead space 3 for the first time. Ooo boy, that weapon upgrade/creation system is awful. Just terrible.
5:47 It means one nose(knows) Jules
Wilhelm. That is all.
so Jagex ruined ANOTHER game?
wow, they are notorious for doing the opposite of what their customers want.
reminds me of an old story i read about Circuit City.
that was one of the reasons THEY went out of business.
I kinda want to play transformers transmetals now...
I liked Eclairs
Activision is the worst. EA is very, very bad... but Activision has been the worst. Since like, 2008.
Something that i really hate about EA is that for whatever the f*** reason Disney actually thought it'd be a fantastic idea to give EA the rights to any and all Star Wars games for the longest damn time and EA thought it'd be a fantastic idea to cancel multiple Star Wars games that sounded and looked like they would've been really fun and unfortunately Star Wars Battlefront 3 was one of those cancelled games and instead they remade Battlefront into a total and complete s*** show except for the Battlefront 2 remake that was actually pretty fun but eventually EA thought it'd be funny to cancel any and all support for that game just so they could continue support for The Sims 4 for many many years to come and so they could also work on Battlefield 2042 but guess what EA eventually ruined The Sims 4 and from what i've read and heard EA even messed up on Battlefield 2042 oh yeah and unless another game company a better game company decides to work on them there still isn't going to be a Battlefront 3 nor any proper remakes
Who made the great Star Wars games of Jedi Outcast 1/2, and the fairly fun Games with Starkiller/ Vader's secret apprentice? Also EA made the great last two Jedi survivor and Jedi Fallen Order. Those and and the Bioware games were all pretty damn good. But the other EA battlefront and flying games all sucked with micro Trans and lame stories!
did he left whatculture?
Other commenters wrote FGS is the parent company and he still does freelance for WC.
Im not a brony but MLP FIM is such a good show. Everyone should watch it
A brony is just someone who likes the show, there's extreme bronies that take it too far tho
It's my perk me up show when I'm feelin' down.
Jules i am trying to eat my Beef Roast i do not need the Pus refence please and thank you
I do love a bit of non PG Jules.
So, is Last Decent was and FPoS(F'ing Piece of $#!+)
Imagine if… the whole Kojima/Konami destruction was ALL orchestrated. Stay with me, the entire fallout was constructed, with everything to play out with Konami wilfully becoming a scapegoat and taking the reputation smash, after Survive. For then years later to reinstate and remake their flagship properties only for the precise moment when it says ‘Directed by Hideo Kojima’. It isn’t the case I imagine, but this scenario is definitely something only Kojima could and would craft. To which the fan base whose lives have been altered by him would reach a fever pitch of elation, a singularity of pure idealistic perfection. Thinking about this really makes me wish for, but makes me sad at the reality.
🍻's Geezers! 😊
Why not talk about games that started as one thing then get turned into something else?
I do not give one flying F*ck if you or anyone else hates the Fandom. im a Brony, a Fan animator, and a Fallout gamer. Im gonna make what i want to make. The fandom aint going anywhere.
Grown men liking a horse shownfor little girls is so weird to me
Stop doing that, it’s annoying
Never been so early in my life
Ok 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for remind me bronies exist... 😬
yea, because god forbid anyone like what they want right?
“Heur heur heur! Be’ause ge’eet? All Broniez loik tew drees oop een weird costumes and ooar gross an deertie!”