I dont mean to be offtopic but does anyone know a method to get back into an instagram account?? I stupidly lost my account password. I appreciate any help you can offer me.
@Jaxon Clay I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm trying it out now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
As an ex Tyre Engineer it breaks my heart when I see some of the horrors that get fitted to vehicles. Matt, not many will realise how important your approach to tyres is, I recognise and applaud you! I'm also heartened by the comments from others here. There's much more to tyres than "Black, Round, Rolls on the Ground"!
great to see a dealer doing this. personally found the hard way that budgets dont pay. dont last as long, noiser, worse performance in all metrics. yes paying £400-500 for the set is a lot but overall im probably gaining back the time visiting a tyre garage and overall probably a little better off in fuel economy too.
When my Leaf 24kw needed new tires due to cracking rubber I went for Michelin Cross Climate plus for both rear tires. The difference in traction is amazing. I know I "lost" a few miles in range but still get 86 mile on the GOM so who know either way? Absolutely great tires for our wet Northern Ireland weather.
I completely agree. I'm a big fan of the Michelin CrossClimate or Goodyear 4Season tyres for use in the UK. I made this video on exactly this subject recently th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html
Putting low grade tyres, wherever they are made, makes no sense, they are all that stick you to the road. I tend to follow those already on the car from new or the successor type. It's good to see a dealer that cares about more than simple profit.
Nothing worse than a car fitted with ditch finder tyres especially when a mid range tyre is £10-£15 more and 10x better, for me though I'll spend the extra £30-£40 and have premiums. Props to you as a dealer for making sure your cars have decent tyres fitted.
i got myself a 2016 Kia Soul EV back in September fitted with 4 brand new kumho tires (china all the way), I did not wait too long and ordered brand new Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tires as in Ireland it rains a lot and them tires have absolute excellent grip in wet, I highly recommend!
Kumho tyres are South Korean,, not Chinese, which is why Hyundai and Kia cars are fitted with them. Also some European brands use them now too. I have a feeling that some Mercedes models have Kumho tyres from the factory. They are generally a good tyre. But as always, its not the brand that dictates the tyre properties, its the model. I made another tyre video here which goes into this in more detail th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html
Uniroyal tyres are great in the wet but thats all they've got going for them. The dry performance is abysmal given the price and not actually much better than some of the budgets out there. I'd get a proper tyre that is only slightly worse in the wet and still brilliant in the dry for a proper all round performance, Continental, Michellin, Bridgestone and Goodyear all have far better offerings. Still props to you for not using total crap budget tyres.
Thank you. Yes we do. But then most people don't car about their tyres, especially when buying a used car..so these things I do, I do just because its the right thing to do and I care.
Our 22kWh Zoe is due some new tyres soon, I have been looking at the Michelin CrossClimate XL and Primacy 4. I have the Primacy 4 on my ZE50 and they seem to be quite good and fairly quiet.
Evergreen is a UK name to 'hide' the fact that these are just another budget Chinese tyre. They're made by Shandong Jinyu Tire Company. I'm not saying they're no good. They've been fitted to a few vehicles that have come in, so not driven much with them. But as always in this world, you get what you pay for.
well its nice of you. however, my expectation of buying a used car is that i will have to replace things like tires, wiper blades and the 12v battery if needed. so i wouldn't warranty any of those parts. heck, my mom bought a new car and the tires it came with can't be balanced properly.
Another one that baffles me is when people put part warm tyres on. They could be plugged any anything even though the tyre tread looks ok. I’ve put Goodyear Efficient grip on my Leaf and Michelin Primacy 4 on my Outlander PHEV. Both tyres are 68db and rated very highly for grip and efficiency.
Warm tyres are good :-) There's a reason why F1 cars have them! Generally I would agree about worn tyres. There's a reason why a worn has ended up back in the trade. No one changes tyres without a reason. So maybe they are off crashed cars and would probably have a flat spot due to the skid before the crash! But then on the other hand, then when you buy a second hand vehicle it has worn tyres and you don't generally replace them until they are worn. I wouldn't worry about plugs if they are done correctly. I will send these Chinese tyres off to the recycler along with all the worn out tyres and I suspect they will be picked out and sold as they are still like new.
@@GoGreenAutos My Mum drove her old car for 4 years with a plugged tyre and I drove it another year with the plug it was fine. Currently have a continental on a plug too it was holding a nail for 6 months and losing 1psi a month hence why I was so slow about plugging it.
Have you ever bothered to fit XL tyres or ar SL ok on leaf? I have my tyres at 40psi ish and the tyres have max 43psi on them and they can have a load of 560kg so they are near their limit ,whats your thoughts
@@GoGreenAutos what tyres are on your ionic? Yes these are the tyres that were on car when I bought it. Thinking michelin cross climate 2 , they are XL tyre but wasn't sure that leaf would need that, would you fit XL on leaf 30?
@@lookoutleo On our Ioniq are Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen-2 205/55/R216 91H - see th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html XL tyres have stiffer sidewalls. I do often fit XL, not because the weight of the vehicle requires it, but because we live in the countryside and drive on rural B roads with lots of potholes and tyres on the nearside often in the verge on narrow country lanes.
@@GoGreenAutos I'll get vector 4 season or cross climate XL as I live on single track country road to and the roads are pretty terrible. Thankyou for your help :)
I used Toyos exclusively for several years on 2 cars. Over those years I had regular issues with blistered sidewalls. I have never had a blistered sidewall on any other tyre brand. I wouldn't buy another Toyo, ever again.
Manufacturer's make different tyre models with different characteristics and properties, so it would be wrong to say all Toyo tyres did this. For example, the Michelin Energy EV tyres fitted to the Zoe are appalling (see th-cam.com/video/HCY4Jl2lsZg/w-d-xo.html), but many of their other models are amongst the best. I used Toyo NanoEnergy tyres on my Zoe for two years and they were faultless. I also find Toyo tyres always balance better than others (if fitted properly) and have fitted 50+ now. But then we can all only be led my our own experiences.
If you buy a 'top spec.' car model it often has larger diameter wheels,i.e.Top Zoe has 17 inch, is it legal to later fit dealer supplied smaller wheels with a larger aspect ratio for economy and quieter ride? Is there something to do with congestion zones and the V5 rating?
No, as long as the new wheel/tyre combo is the correct specification. If you fit genuine OEM alloy wheels, but of a smaller size, then I wouldn't even let the insurer know. But if you fit a an aftermarket wheel, then you should inform your insurer.
Good decision, can’t put a price on safety. There seems to be too much emphasis on economy and noise with EV tyres. Braking performance should be the first consideration in a tyre above anything else. Tyres are the only thing between the car and the road, why cheap out?!
I would have agreed some years ago, but then Michelin made the worst ever tyre - the Energy EV tyre that was fitted to the Zoe. I made a video on them..see th-cam.com/video/HCY4Jl2lsZg/w-d-xo.html So sometimes, even these manufacturer's can cock up and make appalling tyre models.
Some of the best brands now manufacture in China . Perhaps that needs clarification . It's really not that it's made in China , it's whether it's a Chinese brand .
Yes, you're right. My MG ZS came with Michelin tyres on, but these were made locally in China. Its the cheap Chinese brands which are frankly dangerous.
Surprisingly these tyres are never seen in China. Guess they are for export only. In the Chinese domestic market, premium brands such as Conti MC6 and Goodyear EG2 are basically the same price tag as these budget tyres so there is no market for them.
@@GoGreenAutos Probably due to the reason that Conti and Hankook etc also have manufacturing based in China so fewer logistics cost, hence the price can drop further into the budget brand range. My mum who still lives in Shanghai had her mini's tyre changed to Pirelli P7 C2 earlier this year, which cost her 400 yuan each, so roughly 55 quid. And the labour was like, free. There's not a chance I can get such a cheap quote from Halfords or Kwikfit here.
The issue at hand is not the manufacturing location of the tire, but rather the desired cost that you are willing to allocate for your tire. Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.
Sadly, the majority of people don't seem to value the quality of the tyres on their vehicles and just go with the cheapest. As always in life, you get what you pay for. Tyres are so crucial. Just a metre less in stopping distance can be the difference between a close shave, a huge accident repair bill or even death.
@@GoGreenAutos Sadly as testing will attest to there is far more than 1m difference in braking both in dry and wet. In the wet it can be over 20m difference. There is about 1m difference between the big 6. I agree never cheap out on the most important part of your car.
Dunlop’s I hope have gotten better. They were absolutely garbage in the 80s. Goodyears are crappy too. Slide all over the place if the pavement is wet. (Goodyear RSA tires that came on the police interceptors).
Get rid of the Chinese tires good what about LRR that should be equally as important ? Not good to put a new tire on there if it's not really proper for an electric vehicle. Low rolling resistance is very important with an electric vehicle you want as much range as you can get... Especially on a Nissan leaf that doesn't have much range to to begin with.
Because in the UK, the Chinese tyres imported here are generally budget and poor performance or quality. I'm sure there are premium/higher quality Chinese tyres, but these aren't making our shores. I'm not singling out Chinese tyres in this video, but "budget" and poor quality tyres.
Xenophobic tosh disguised as virtue signalling. There are terrible tyres made by Japanese brands, by Korean brands, by French, by American, by Indonesian brands. There are also good tyres made by Chinese brands. And to hear your unalloyed praise of Toyo is hilarious. Stick to selling cars and lay off the xenophobia.
So weird how you see this a racism. I'm only taking about a rubber tyre, not people! Its a fact that some of the Chinese budget tyres are poor performing or poor quality tyres compared to others. In life, you generally get what you pay for and these tyres are exactly this. Buy the cheapest - you get poor tyres. Its as simple as that. True, there could well be excellent Chinese made tyres, but the reality is that they don't make it to British shores. The Chinese tyres are here as the budget option and because of that, they are generally pretty poor. I am speaking from experience here....unlike yourself obviously.
@@GoGreenAutos it's not racist. It's xenophobic. I got that wrong, which is why I've edited my comment. You were very clear in your video that you dislike "Chinese tyres." Not "budget Chinese tyres," nor "cheap Chinese tyres," nor "some Chinese tyres." However inadvertent, that reflects badly on your business. It's disappointing-I generally enjoy your videos, but not this one.
What an excellent example of fairness, decency and integrity over profit. I admire what you do 👍👏👏👏
Thank you.
I dont mean to be offtopic but does anyone know a method to get back into an instagram account??
I stupidly lost my account password. I appreciate any help you can offer me.
@Dustin Lorenzo instablaster ;)
@Jaxon Clay I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm trying it out now.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Jaxon Clay it worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thank you so much, you really help me out!
As an ex Tyre Engineer it breaks my heart when I see some of the horrors that get fitted to vehicles. Matt, not many will realise how important your approach to tyres is, I recognise and applaud you! I'm also heartened by the comments from others here. There's much more to tyres than "Black, Round, Rolls on the Ground"!
Thank you.
great to see a dealer doing this. personally found the hard way that budgets dont pay. dont last as long, noiser, worse performance in all metrics. yes paying £400-500 for the set is a lot but overall im probably gaining back the time visiting a tyre garage and overall probably a little better off in fuel economy too.
When my Leaf 24kw needed new tires due to cracking rubber I went for Michelin Cross Climate plus for both rear tires. The difference in traction is amazing. I know I "lost" a few miles in range but still get 86 mile on the GOM so who know either way? Absolutely great tires for our wet Northern Ireland weather.
I completely agree. I'm a big fan of the Michelin CrossClimate or Goodyear 4Season tyres for use in the UK. I made this video on exactly this subject recently th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html
Great and honest video Matt. Definitely somewhere to buy your next used ev 👍
Might of been good to do a before and after test drive to demonstrate the effect. None the less its good to see you care enough to sort the issue.
Putting low grade tyres, wherever they are made, makes no sense, they are all that stick you to the road. I tend to follow those already on the car from new or the successor type.
It's good to see a dealer that cares about more than simple profit.
Nothing worse than a car fitted with ditch finder tyres especially when a mid range tyre is £10-£15 more and 10x better, for me though I'll spend the extra £30-£40 and have premiums. Props to you as a dealer for making sure your cars have decent tyres fitted.
i got myself a 2016 Kia Soul EV back in September fitted with 4 brand new kumho tires (china all the way), I did not wait too long and ordered brand new Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tires as in Ireland it rains a lot and them tires have absolute excellent grip in wet, I highly recommend!
Kumho tyres are South Korean,, not Chinese, which is why Hyundai and Kia cars are fitted with them. Also some European brands use them now too. I have a feeling that some Mercedes models have Kumho tyres from the factory. They are generally a good tyre. But as always, its not the brand that dictates the tyre properties, its the model.
I made another tyre video here which goes into this in more detail th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html
Uniroyal tyres are great in the wet but thats all they've got going for them. The dry performance is abysmal given the price and not actually much better than some of the budgets out there. I'd get a proper tyre that is only slightly worse in the wet and still brilliant in the dry for a proper all round performance, Continental, Michellin, Bridgestone and Goodyear all have far better offerings. Still props to you for not using total crap budget tyres.
Fair play to you,I bet you get repeat customer 👍
Thank you. Yes we do. But then most people don't car about their tyres, especially when buying a used car..so these things I do, I do just because its the right thing to do and I care.
Our 22kWh Zoe is due some new tyres soon, I have been looking at the Michelin CrossClimate XL and Primacy 4. I have the Primacy 4 on my ZE50 and they seem to be quite good and fairly quiet.
I have CrossClimate + on my e-Golf and love them.
Excellent Matt.👍 How does one recognise a cheap Chinese tyre?.
"Made in China" or "Made in PRC" on the sidewall and lookup the make and model of the tyre online.
A motor trader with a conscience... A rare breed indeed
Thanks
Just fitted 4 new evergreen to my Kia Niro never heard of them myself, are they any good ?
Evergreen is a UK name to 'hide' the fact that these are just another budget Chinese tyre. They're made by Shandong Jinyu Tire Company.
I'm not saying they're no good. They've been fitted to a few vehicles that have come in, so not driven much with them. But as always in this world, you get what you pay for.
well its nice of you. however, my expectation of buying a used car is that i will have to replace things like tires, wiper blades and the 12v battery if needed. so i wouldn't warranty any of those parts. heck, my mom bought a new car and the tires it came with can't be balanced properly.
Hi Mat which car would you recommend for kia e niro 215/55R17 all season anything £60 per tyre
Yes, I favour all-season tyres myself. See th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html
Another one that baffles me is when people put part warm tyres on. They could be plugged any anything even though the tyre tread looks ok. I’ve put Goodyear Efficient grip on my Leaf and Michelin Primacy 4 on my Outlander PHEV. Both tyres are 68db and rated very highly for grip and efficiency.
Warm tyres are good :-) There's a reason why F1 cars have them!
Generally I would agree about worn tyres. There's a reason why a worn has ended up back in the trade. No one changes tyres without a reason. So maybe they are off crashed cars and would probably have a flat spot due to the skid before the crash!
But then on the other hand, then when you buy a second hand vehicle it has worn tyres and you don't generally replace them until they are worn. I wouldn't worry about plugs if they are done correctly.
I will send these Chinese tyres off to the recycler along with all the worn out tyres and I suspect they will be picked out and sold as they are still like new.
@@GoGreenAutos My Mum drove her old car for 4 years with a plugged tyre and I drove it another year with the plug it was fine. Currently have a continental on a plug too it was holding a nail for 6 months and losing 1psi a month hence why I was so slow about plugging it.
Have you ever bothered to fit XL tyres or ar SL ok on leaf? I have my tyres at 40psi ish and the tyres have max 43psi on them and they can have a load of 560kg so they are near their limit ,whats your thoughts
They sound a low spec tyre. I've just checked the tyres on our Ioniq and they are rates to 71psi. I use XL where appropriate.
@@GoGreenAutos what tyres are on your ionic? Yes these are the tyres that were on car when I bought it. Thinking michelin cross climate 2 , they are XL tyre but wasn't sure that leaf would need that, would you fit XL on leaf 30?
@@lookoutleo On our Ioniq are Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen-2 205/55/R216 91H - see th-cam.com/video/0BSYv5YlRC8/w-d-xo.html
XL tyres have stiffer sidewalls. I do often fit XL, not because the weight of the vehicle requires it, but because we live in the countryside and drive on rural B roads with lots of potholes and tyres on the nearside often in the verge on narrow country lanes.
@@GoGreenAutos I'll get vector 4 season or cross climate XL as I live on single track country road to and the roads are pretty terrible. Thankyou for your help :)
@@lookoutleo Both are excellent tyres and what I always fit to my own vehicles, including my Tesla Model S...got CrossClimates on that.
I used Toyos exclusively for several years on 2 cars. Over those years I had regular issues with blistered sidewalls. I have never had a blistered sidewall on any other tyre brand. I wouldn't buy another Toyo, ever again.
Manufacturer's make different tyre models with different characteristics and properties, so it would be wrong to say all Toyo tyres did this. For example, the Michelin Energy EV tyres fitted to the Zoe are appalling (see th-cam.com/video/HCY4Jl2lsZg/w-d-xo.html), but many of their other models are amongst the best. I used Toyo NanoEnergy tyres on my Zoe for two years and they were faultless. I also find Toyo tyres always balance better than others (if fitted properly) and have fitted 50+ now.
But then we can all only be led my our own experiences.
If you buy a 'top spec.' car model it often has larger diameter wheels,i.e.Top Zoe has 17 inch, is it legal to later fit dealer supplied smaller wheels with a larger aspect ratio for economy and quieter ride? Is there something to do with congestion zones and the V5 rating?
Exactly what I did on the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Went permanently for 16" wheels, ride improved tenfold.
No, as long as the new wheel/tyre combo is the correct specification. If you fit genuine OEM alloy wheels, but of a smaller size, then I wouldn't even let the insurer know. But if you fit a an aftermarket wheel, then you should inform your insurer.
Good decision, can’t put a price on safety. There seems to be too much emphasis on economy and noise with EV tyres. Braking performance should be the first consideration in a tyre above anything else. Tyres are the only thing between the car and the road, why cheap out?!
I avoid tyres that have being green/Eco as their main selling point they sacrifice a little too much for that extra 0.5mpg or extra few miles range.
I had Toyo's on a Mazda 6, they were very very bad in the wet.
Had new looking ones on my daughter’s Corolla. Slid like crazy. Put some good Firestone all season ones on. Doesn’t slide at all now.
I only ever buy branded tyres like Michelin or Goodyear EV specific tyres thankfully.
I would have agreed some years ago, but then Michelin made the worst ever tyre - the Energy EV tyre that was fitted to the Zoe. I made a video on them..see th-cam.com/video/HCY4Jl2lsZg/w-d-xo.html
So sometimes, even these manufacturer's can cock up and make appalling tyre models.
I will not get such sporty tyres next time, Maxxis HP 5, great tyre will be happy to get 50km from them. I will do my research😅.
Some of the best brands now manufacture in China . Perhaps that needs clarification . It's really not that it's made in China , it's whether it's a Chinese brand .
Yes, you're right. My MG ZS came with Michelin tyres on, but these were made locally in China. Its the cheap Chinese brands which are frankly dangerous.
Surprisingly these tyres are never seen in China. Guess they are for export only. In the Chinese domestic market, premium brands such as Conti MC6 and Goodyear EG2 are basically the same price tag as these budget tyres so there is no market for them.
Interesting
@@GoGreenAutos Probably due to the reason that Conti and Hankook etc also have manufacturing based in China so fewer logistics cost, hence the price can drop further into the budget brand range. My mum who still lives in Shanghai had her mini's tyre changed to Pirelli P7 C2 earlier this year, which cost her 400 yuan each, so roughly 55 quid. And the labour was like, free. There's not a chance I can get such a cheap quote from Halfords or Kwikfit here.
The issue at hand is not the manufacturing location of the tire, but rather the desired cost that you are willing to allocate for your tire. Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.
A while ago I asked my local tyre dealer about cheap Chinese tyres. He said " Would you drive on Bakelite tyres with your child in the car ? "
Sadly, the majority of people don't seem to value the quality of the tyres on their vehicles and just go with the cheapest. As always in life, you get what you pay for. Tyres are so crucial. Just a metre less in stopping distance can be the difference between a close shave, a huge accident repair bill or even death.
@@GoGreenAutos Sadly as testing will attest to there is far more than 1m difference in braking both in dry and wet. In the wet it can be over 20m difference. There is about 1m difference between the big 6. I agree never cheap out on the most important part of your car.
Dunlop’s I hope have gotten better. They were absolutely garbage in the 80s. Goodyears are crappy too. Slide all over the place if the pavement is wet. (Goodyear RSA tires that came on the police interceptors).
Get rid of the Chinese tires good what about LRR that should be equally as important ? Not good to put a new tire on there if it's not really proper for an electric vehicle. Low rolling resistance is very important with an electric vehicle you want as much range as you can get... Especially on a Nissan leaf that doesn't have much range to to begin with.
If you are only fitting two tyres, the new ones should go on the back.
Correct.
why the emphasis on China and their tyres? plenty of good brands coming out of China
Because in the UK, the Chinese tyres imported here are generally budget and poor performance or quality. I'm sure there are premium/higher quality Chinese tyres, but these aren't making our shores. I'm not singling out Chinese tyres in this video, but "budget" and poor quality tyres.
@@GoGreenAutos yes you are. Go back and listen to what you actually said.
Xenophobic tosh disguised as virtue signalling. There are terrible tyres made by Japanese brands, by Korean brands, by French, by American, by Indonesian brands. There are also good tyres made by Chinese brands. And to hear your unalloyed praise of Toyo is hilarious. Stick to selling cars and lay off the xenophobia.
So weird how you see this a racism. I'm only taking about a rubber tyre, not people! Its a fact that some of the Chinese budget tyres are poor performing or poor quality tyres compared to others. In life, you generally get what you pay for and these tyres are exactly this. Buy the cheapest - you get poor tyres. Its as simple as that.
True, there could well be excellent Chinese made tyres, but the reality is that they don't make it to British shores. The Chinese tyres are here as the budget option and because of that, they are generally pretty poor. I am speaking from experience here....unlike yourself obviously.
@@GoGreenAutos it's not racist. It's xenophobic. I got that wrong, which is why I've edited my comment. You were very clear in your video that you dislike "Chinese tyres." Not "budget Chinese tyres," nor "cheap Chinese tyres," nor "some Chinese tyres." However inadvertent, that reflects badly on your business. It's disappointing-I generally enjoy your videos, but not this one.
Might of been good to do a before and after test drive to demonstrate the effect. None the less its good to see you care enough to sort the issue.
Might of been good to do a before and after test drive to demonstrate the effect. None the less its good to see you care enough to sort the issue.
I don't really have the ability (i.e. equipment) to film while driving. I've tried with a tripod without much luck.