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Can't wait for you to see the part where the Lotus Eaters summon Sekhmet to battle Athena after she threatens to take all their magic lotus drugs for herself. There's so many good animatics of that scene.
@@giuliagabriela9729 Well in the Odyssey, Odysseus is just canonically short. In the Odyssey he is described as shorter than Agamemnon who in the Iliad is described as shorter than all the other soldiers.
"Polites says to maybe approach one problem with not-murder and athena spends 4 minutes scolding Odysseus about it." Oh boy he's gonna enjoy the first 5 lines of the 3rd song of the cyclops saga.
@@Anonyomus_commenteri think they're talking about my goodbye You are reckless Sentimental at best That's not a teaching of mine You've grown soft Your dead friends can attest
The reason for the birds isn’t quite what y’all are thinking. Zeus is often represented by an eagle, so the eagle’s scream in the music was showing us it was Zeus as was Gigi’s imagery of there being an eagle while Zeus was talking to Odysseus. Likewise, an owl is the signature animal of Athena, representing wisdom as you mentioned. So whenever there is an owl it’s showing Athena is present. Each of the Greek gods typically have an animal or item that represents them in some way, Poseidon and his trident plus horses is another, Hermes with his winged sandals, Apollo and or Helios with his cattle, Artemis with deer specifically a silver stag. Hera with peacocks. Etc
Little fun fact: In Greece, giving an apple to someone was used a lot as a confession of love. So the little part where Polites throws an apple to Odyseuss is a little ship reference the creator had :)
7:40 “I don’t have a [mnemonic] device for ODYSSEYus, we’ll just have to remember that one” Canonically, he’s supposed to have a very forgettable, “oh, nobody” name.
Thanks for having me on the channel, and thanks to everyone for watching! More is to come very soon (so no spoiling him!), I can't wait to keep going through this together!
Wait wait, so you are doing it together? It wasn’t clear in the first video. Because I really hope that’s the case. Both of your reactions are great. His as someone new to this musical, but also you who like us is just giddy to show it off. An amazing video, and I can’t wait for more
@@BrittanyArtPoetry we weren’t planning on doing it together at first but we had so much fun that we’ll be doing ALL of Act One together as a co-reaction 🥰 (Act 2 tbd, once that starts to get released)
@@officialmortiussince you asked about how to handle the Underworld saga, the answer is pretty clear - wait until you two catch up and the have both a genuine first reaction to the final three songs of the first act ✨️✨️
10:10 I AM USEFUL WOOOOOO “Captain!” “You really cussed??” was how I first heard it so there's the ✨origin✨ It's like the “well done, you lied to me what's your name?” or the “when does a cabbage become a meteor?” “Badass ✨senorita✨”
Isn't the "well done, you lied to me whats your name" the original lyrics? Or have i literally misheard that line thr whole time? Cause if i have I'll feel incredibly stupid😂😂
@@yuriatsugi3696it’s “well done, enlighten me” originally, but several lyric sites write it as “you lied to me” and also Mr jalapeño has also heard the Lied To Me interpretation and thought it was funny (“she’s like great job! you’re a liar! *wheeze*”) so do with that information what you will
Noooo Jorge doesn’t voice Zeus, it’s Luke Holt’s doing🥹 he’s really cool, he also voices some background soldiers Andd if I’m not mistaken soldiers aren’t Jay’s voice either (in final release), sometime ago he talked on his tiktok about hiring a choir or smth like that in order for them to do it
I don’t think so. There are clips of Jorge singing Zeus’ part before the finale release of the song, and I think that’s were the rumor comes from. I don’t think Jorge would switch up the voice of a character in the finale releases of the songs as it would be confusing for fans. Not only that but if you listen to the clip of Jorge singing the song he sounds a little different than the voice from the finale version. One last thing I know I’m posting a paragraph and I could be completely wrong 😅but I believe there is a clip of the cast singing this song with the actual voice of Zeus
Quick fact check: All of these songs have multiple people singing. Zeus is not voiced by Jorge. Also, If you listen closely, one of the winions says "scary cave."
@@jurassicfreak2579 No problem! I mean, you didn’t correct me but still hahaha. To be fair, I think he said that this wasn’t his original plan, but he liked the headcanons so decided to make it canon.
As a person invested in story making and writing, "The horse and the infant" feels like being thrown into the middle of a story where "Warrior of the mind" is the _"how did we get here?"_ Basically a "Hi, this is me, I guess you're wondering how i got here, well, let me explain"
The Odyssey itself does this! It's a trope called "in media res," starting in the middle of action and then going into more detail later about how it happened. A prominent franchise that does this- both at the very start and in the individual entries- is Star Wars.
The Odyssey itself does this! It's a trope called "in media res," starting in the middle of action and then going into more detail later about how it happened. A prominent franchise that does this- both at the very start and in the individual entries- is Star Wars.
Athena is not Odysseus's mother, Athena is actually one of the few Greek gods who had retained their purity and remained a virgin. There is a story where she and Hephaestus get close while he forged her special weapons but Hephaestus misinterpreted her intentions and got rejected.
i think they are refering to Percy Jackson Lore, there Athena can have child but she gave born them with the mind, like she, so she is still pure; and there Odysseus is one of her child sorry for my bad english :p
I know people had said Mortius was wrong about the lotus eaters, but he’s not. They are in fact winions. It wasn’t Jorge’s original plan, but after he saw the headcanons, he liked the idea and made it canon. Also I think he voices the winions with a voice effect. I really recommend Mircsy’s animatics for Cyclops Saga (aside from Remember Them, since they didn’t make one for that one, Wolfy’s Remember Them is great though)
Oh, something that another fan noticed, firstly Athena sings “mind” on only one high note (Odysseus sings it “mi-i-i-i-i-ind” using a few notes), after that he and Athena sing it with Athena’s one high note and Odysseus’ few notes, and the second duo has both of them singing “mi-i-i-i-i-ind” showing their connection and harmonization. Athena stays in the few notes at the end. You could also show drifting away in the same way. Another thing, adding to the angel and devil thing, the lower voice represents the harshness of the character, while Polites’ high voice showcases his optimism. It’s also supposed to differentiate them, cause one said ‘go attack them’ and the other says ‘go and be friends with them’. Fun fact: Athena is a maiden goddess. The children of Athena made out of thoughts thingy was made for PJO exclusively. And an owl is Athena’s sacred animal. And look out for ‘the danger theme’. There is a motif in music called the danger theme added by Jay.
I love Wolff’s artistic choices with the main three, especially concerning their hair. Odysseus, as the main character, has triangular shaped locks, as triangles are the most diverse shape. They can be strong, as all of the vertices of triangles are locked, and they can be dangerous and pointy. Polites has round curly hair, a wispy look that is reminiscent of both his round bouncy nature and also his curly whispy lasting impression on Odysseus long after his death. Finally Eurylochus has straight and blocky hair, closely shaven, giving him the impression of a strong moral support while also being hard on Odysseus to do the sensible thing. It’s insane that simple shapes can carry so much meaning!
Oh, idk if I should correct this... But Eurylochus isn't an acoustic guitar. His instrument is the choir of men, as he is the voice of the crew. Odysseus is the guitar, electric when he's fighting, acoustic when he's not. Edit: Also, Epic is fully sung through. No spoken dialogue.
the way the first pjo series is structured is very cool cause most of the books can be tied to a specific greek hero's journey (lightning thief is based off perseus, last olympian off achilles, etc.) so if you've read sea of monsters you really have a basic summary of the odyssey! the greek gods are very linked to their sacred animals and appear in their form to mortals a lot. for zeus it's the eagle (the bird in the horse and the infant) and for athena the owl. that's why they're associated with wisdom and why the athenians had the famous little owl in their coins.
One of the funniest things about owls being Athenas animal and representing wisdom is that if you've ever worked with them they are maybe the least intelligent group of birds to exist. There is nothing going on in those hollow little heads, and they're basically just a feathery tube for processing meat with some instincts slapped on. Amazing hunters but nothing between the ears in the way of higher thought. I absolutely love them but the irony of their reputation vs the reality is hilarious to me.
@@HorseChild book 3 is less clear and way more vague but i'd say heracles cause he plays a big part in zoë's backstory, though it doesn't really reflect his adventures like it does the others' (but i could be forgetting something, it's been a while). book 4 are theseus and dedalus!
In the original demos for the songs, the characters were voiced by Jorge, but in the official concept album all characters have been cast, including the soldiers. Zeus is performed by Luke Holt And the soldiers are a 6 man ensemble performed by Jorge Rivera-Herrans(voice of Odysseus and Polyphemus), Luke Holt (voice of Zeus and Elpenor), Armando Julian (voice of Eurylochus), Aryon Alexander, Troy Doherty (voice of Hermes), and Earl Gresham Jr.
"it's not like Hamilton or Les mis where it just goes to next song everytime" actually it is, epic is a fully song through musical, this has been confirmed by Jorge
Seriously? I love the musical, but it does feel like there’s a couple of jumps between the songs? If this was done on stage it would be a struggle to understand if you didn’t already have knowledge about the musical or the odyssey
hey, just fun little fact for a part of the open arms animatic. when Polites throws an apple to Odysseus that's basically asking a wedding proposal in Ancient Greece. thought that was a fun little detail that the animator used.
33:08 so here the ensemble behind odysseus are brought up by Athena when sung in song on “Athena” and “arena” and stuff. She liked how young odysseus was fanboying over her basically (it’s adorable😭🤍)
Oh no, Jorge doesn’t voice Zeus. I think Mortius is confusing it with Jorge’s TikToks, where he posted snippets of the songs sung by him. There are a lot of those from already released songs and from future ones too.
In the part "Open Arms" when Polites threw an apple at Odysseus.. did you know that according to Greek myth, throwing an apple at someone means professing your love to them. If they catch it, it means they love you too. So, I guess that's why he dropped it? Haha or maybe not😬😄
36:18 the runs show like how eventually Athena starts trusting odysseus as she is “influenced”by him essentially. Since the first “mind” they harmonized jay did a special run then they do it together then she does it alone.
16:29 those letters are from the IPA (international phonetic alphabet), if I remeber correctly from my courses in linguistics. It is used to write languages by sound, not orthography or writing system. You can see it used in dictionaries (or Wikipedia articles), it basically tells you how to pronounce things/how words sound. I believe the animators name would be pronounced "mirt-shee", based on what I remember about the letters :) If they did in fact use the IPA, that's just what it looks like to me
Or, alternatively, it could be mir-chee, as in IPA /͡tʃ/ is also used for the 'ch' sound like in chair or Charizard. Edit: After a bit of research, she indeeds confirms on her tumblr that it's mir-chee, as I think she's Hungarian, and 'cs' is indeed pronounced as ch there.
@@Kamarovsky_KCM true! Although, if I think about it, the pronounciation is actually pretty much the same I guess, only difference would be to what syllable you say the /t/ belongs to
@@seeschwalbe Hah I suppose if you speak it fast then yeah hardly a difference. Though personally I would look at you funny if you pronounced 'chair' as 'tshair' lmao
@@Kamarovsky_KCM well, now you had me saying various versions of "chair" to myself for like two minutes straight😂 But seriously, would there be an actual difference do you think? Because to me as a native German speaker, the consonants in the phrases "the chair" and for example "that share" sound pretty much the same (if you do the "linking" of the words like in a sentence). Maybe the "sh"-sound in "chair" is a liiittle bit harsher, but it's really hard for me to find a difference there tbh (Also I don't have the IPA to write with on here, unfortunately)
@@seeschwalbe Haha I can imagine. But yeah, by pronunciation rules there is quite a difference between the two. 'Ch' is a sibilant affricate, and to paraphrase the Wikipedia meaning, it means it is produced by first stopping the air flow entirely, and then doing the hissy thing, and 'Sh' is a fricative, so it only involves the hissy thing. Kinda like a difference between 'ts' at the end of cats, and an 's'. Or to give an example more fitting for German, as it appears both sounds occur in there: The 'ch' sound is like 'tsch' in Matsch, and 'sh' is like 'sch' in schon. Hope this helps!
When you react to the Cyclops saga I suggest watching all of Mircsy's videos on it. (The same one who made the Open Arms and Warrior of the Mind, you watched here) The videos are on: Polyphemous Survive and My Goodbye. Polyphemous flows well into Survive, while Mircsy's My Goodbye is, to my mind, the best animatic on that song.
I love how neither of you, when Polites asks where to find more food, catches the fact that the Lotus Eaters reply with: “A cave! Scary cave!” 😂 the Lotus Eaters know what’s in the cave.
right now its just a concept so obv a lot can change but yeah it is sung through, the one thing im worried abt is some of the transitions from songs are really harsh, and even tho jay said he doesnt ever plan to bring it on stage cuz its just not that type of musical i feel as though people listening through can lose the plot sometimes and i really hope he adds more clarification, sticks out most to me with the transition from open arms to warrior of the mind i know when i first watched i was like wait where are we now
i think this might be one of, if not the best, Epic reactions Ive seen yet! I love the dynamic between the two of you and the way you analyze both story, music, AND animation. Usually I find its one or the other but you two are great! I cant wait to see your thoughts on the rest of the musical!
I've never seen a person make a raspberry to signal for a Time Out! but I absolutely loved it. I believe Jorge got in contact with Zeus' singer Luke early enough to bring him in to Troy Saga! I am so glad, he really adds a lot of Handsome, Deep-Toned Drama!
I think you two have a really good reaction dynamic, especially for this. You tend to get emotionally impacted by similar things which resonates well, but you each have different areas of expertise. That lets you give unique feedback that builds off of one another. I hope you'll consider reacting together to more Epic content and maybe other musicals in the future, because the dynamic works very well.
I love that in Warrior of the Mind you hear Athena at first do the Miiiiiind at a high note, then when Odysseus is added he does a bit of a run while Athena still does the high note. Next time they do it together they do the run together symbolizing their growing relationship. Then Athena does the run on her own. It's so fucking peak, I love the attention to detail in this song writing
Also i dont know if someone said but what other people said its widely, known greek gods dont appear i mean they will but not usually. They speak through your head all the time so Odysseus change in personality is him literally having a whole conversation with his god. in real time what feels like seconds but in his heads its minutes so thats actually why in open arms its portrayed like that and also later on th soloders arnt freaking out when Athena suddenly appears to give Odysseus advice cause the whole conversations happened in his head
I think other people might have mentioned it- BUT! here's a fun fact I cant get out of my head since I learned it: In Warrior Of The Mind, when Athena firstly sings the chorus by herself, she holds the note in 'Mind'. Later, when she and Odysseus sing together for the first time, she _still_ holds the note there, but Odysseus makes a fun run in the background (which is the part that sounded GORGEOUS and you both loved so much haha). The second time they sing "We are the warriors of the mind" together, it seems Athena noticed that Odysseus does something differently with his vocals, so she also does the run instead of holding the high note like before. Essentially doing what Odysseus does instead of her own method before knowing him. AND when she sings alone again, she still does the run of notes instead of what she did before meeting Odysseus. This is to show basically how their relationship started fo build. The trust she put on him. She started knowing Odysseus- and the fact it is shown musically like that makes it SOOOO cool. Mr. Jalapeño is a GENIUS. Please re-listen to the song and see what I mean. I can't no longer listen to it without noticing how Athena essentially adapts to him. How she _accepts_ him and embraces his ways to a certain level. Great video btw!
I'm so happy to see new people getting into EPIC! I truly hope you dive into this series! Also, only nitpick I have about the video is that Casper's audio is pretty quiet compared to the animatic and Mortius.
I can’t wait! I’ve been waiting since I saw the early access video on Mortius’s Patreon, and I can’t wait to see how you react to the rest of The Troy Saga! I’m so excited!
i only hope you two keep reacting to this show its amazing. So, i wanted to detail some details of the song, when athena sings "its a warrior of the mind" in the first time she mantain the note high. Then when she sings with odysseus she still mantain the note high but odyseus makes that rift with the voice pointing he's own personality and then, when athena sings that line again in the end she makes the rift that odysseus did so its kind of intentional cause Jorge explains that Athena in this song established a conection with odysseus so, we can think like athena also makes her personality based in the mood of odysseus even when she design him (This detail it also appears in other songs but, im not gonna spoil until you reach that moment
Fun Facts: While Polites and Ody were childhood friends Eurylochus usually wasn't. He comes from an island near Ithaca, I believe the name was Same. He is Ody's second because Eury married Ctimene, Odysseus's younger sister. In case you wanted some background... to make things... idk I'll go with 'better'. Edit: little late and all but: Odysseus, main character of "The Odyssey"... Ody works too, its what most of us call him. OH! Fun Fact 2: while it isn't the one shown Polites is a kind of butterfly! Edit 2: Everyone seems to miss "A scary cave..." that comes in quietly after the other Winions say "A cave!" Edit 3: Even more than just being Athena's project for so long, the most accepted family heritage for Ody is that his Great Grandfather is Hermes... so when Zeus (Hermes's dad) shows up and warns him of a dire threat Ody listened.
I mean it's the Odyssey. He's Odysseus. His name's in the title! More than that, Athena in real myth has only apprentices, not children. She, alongside Hestia and Artemis is part of the group of the 3 virgin goddesses. She does not have children, and even in percy jackson they explained it away as her basically using magic to make children rather than actual anything. Odysseus is however the great grandchild of hermes! His maternal grandfather is a legendary shapeshifting thief.
Jorge, the creator, is a musical genius. Listen closely in "Open Arms." The Lotus Eaters have little interjections that you have to listen pretty closely to to hear. In "Warrior of the Mind," Athena first sings 'Mind' with a sustained note. When Odysseus comes in and he first sings 'Mind' he sings it as a vocal run, or melisma. After Athena hears him sing it like that she does the same showing that while she is teaching him, he is teaching her as well.
I absoulutly LOVE how Mircsy was able represent Athena's power of "Quick Thought" I believe it's called. She pulls people into the mind in order to have a full telepathic conversation in the span of a few milliseconds. I know that some of the voices when first shown on TikTok (posted prior to the release of the albums) were mostly all Jorge with a few characters already having people casted, but now the albums are fully casted.
23:23 I've watched this animatic a dozen times and just noticed Polities basically proposes to Odysyus because in Greece it was tradition to throw someone an apple as a wedding proposal and if they caught it they accept Edit- just realised it's only sparta
"Open Arms" gets interpreted as the "pacifist song" but thats not what's happening here Polites has noticed his friend is troubled, he waits until they're alone to gently confront him about how high-strung/tense he is The song starts with "I can tell youre getting nervous" and "I know that youre tired of the war & bloodshed" and "look at how you grip your sword" Then he gives his argument for how Odysseus can start to heal. "Greet the world with open arms" doesnt mean "no violence ever" he's telling Odysseus that _most often_ people are good & helpful, Odysseus' will feel so much better if he doesnt assume every stranger will try to kill him The song ends with "I see in your face there is so much guilt inside your heart" He wants Odysseus to start to heal. THATS also why Athena drops down immediately to yell at Odysseus, she chose him as her champion & he accepted! He doesnt get to back to civillian life, he doesnt get to relax. He must always be "on." He must always be a warripr first (even tho he's fraying at the seams) That makes everything so much sadder because (Spoilers) Odysseus mental health _does Not_ get better past the Troy Saga
"I have no idea what that was" The sheep. As you (Mortius) said next is the cyclops saga, the "thanks for watching" has an eye inside the only O in the sentence, and the sheep from the cave can be heard on the background :)
7:37 I remember Odysseus via the name of the book being “The Odyssey”. Odyssey means journey, and the book is about his journey! (Yes, the meaning of Odyssey comes from the book)
omg . . I NEVER seen that end flash in open arms until just now . . .THE HECK .feaufhoeaufhoaefhoaeuhoaefhuof How do I keep finding new things with this!? Ahh!! so many layers!
I was SO EXCITED to see your reaction to this - it's so much fun! I LOVED seeing you and Mortius react to Epic - it's really interesting getting the musical and story/character perspectives - and I really hope we get to see you do the other sagas. I'm so happy you're enjoying it! 💖
When Mortius said Polites is his everything I just thought of odysseus singing "she's my everything, my penelope" in there are other ways, so now I'm imagining a parody about polites instead
22:31 So fun fact. Almost all of the vocal lines are supposed to be physically spoken out. So, for example, in Just a Man. When he says, "Close your eyes, spare yourself the view," he's actually saying that to the infant as he's contemplating and struggling with his actions.
13:15 zeus wasn’t voiced by jorge however in the the first version it was voiced by jorge because he wasn’t holding auditions and the song was unfinished and the soldiers were actually also not sang by jorge and like in the first version it was voiced by jorge cuz the song was unfinished
This was so much more than fun! This was... lotf of fun! I have not watched Epic before, and I'm just enthralled. Thank you both for working hard on introducing me to this! Gosh, if I only had access to this when we studies Odysseia in high-school, close to 30 years ago...
Cant wait for you to hear more. Im sure somewhere i read that epic is a complete sung through musical so no dialogue. If this show hits the staage its going to be bigger then Hamilton
We're fixing the mic issue for the next R/As dw! :)
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Was not a problem
The musical actually ends with Odysseus getting thrown off a wall by an infant it's a great full circle moment
@@officialmortius He steps on a duplo brick and loses his balance
No spoiler just can' t wait for your reaction to the ocean saga and the Circe sage 😊
Can't wait for you to see the part where the Lotus Eaters summon Sekhmet to battle Athena after she threatens to take all their magic lotus drugs for herself. There's so many good animatics of that scene.
Funfact! Everyone is taller than Odysseus. A running joke of sorts
if I remember is because Jorge is also smaller than everyone
We love a short king
@@giuliagabriela9729 Well in the Odyssey, Odysseus is just canonically short. In the Odyssey he is described as shorter than Agamemnon who in the Iliad is described as shorter than all the other soldiers.
@@StaticSpark314Jorge really fits the role then lmao
@@StaticSpark314i love that 😂
"This is Polites, I'm in love with him"
Yes, yes Morbius we all are
Morbius lol
"Polites says to maybe approach one problem with not-murder and athena spends 4 minutes scolding Odysseus about it."
Oh boy he's gonna enjoy the first 5 lines of the 3rd song of the cyclops saga.
“Captain!
Captain!
Captain!
We must move quickly, we don’t have much time
He didn’t notice I mixed Lotus in his wine”
What is so great about those?
@@Anonyomus_commenteri think they're talking about my goodbye
You are reckless
Sentimental at best
That's not a teaching of mine
You've grown soft
Your dead friends can attest
The reason for the birds isn’t quite what y’all are thinking. Zeus is often represented by an eagle, so the eagle’s scream in the music was showing us it was Zeus as was Gigi’s imagery of there being an eagle while Zeus was talking to Odysseus. Likewise, an owl is the signature animal of Athena, representing wisdom as you mentioned. So whenever there is an owl it’s showing Athena is present. Each of the Greek gods typically have an animal or item that represents them in some way, Poseidon and his trident plus horses is another, Hermes with his winged sandals, Apollo and or Helios with his cattle, Artemis with deer specifically a silver stag. Hera with peacocks. Etc
Helios is the cattle as Apollo is represented by Hawks rather than Zeus being eagles
@@anime_dragons5673Apollo is dolphin not hawks
@@lysfranc8782 isn’t Dionysus a dolphin? I know of Apollo turning into a dolphin but Dionysus turned like 20 sailors into dolphins
@@lysfranc8782Dionysius is dolphins, Apollo is cattle.
Polites: Maybe we don't need to kill everyone ✨
Athena in the background: ...And I took that personally~
Little fun fact: In Greece, giving an apple to someone was used a lot as a confession of love. So the little part where Polites throws an apple to Odyseuss is a little ship reference the creator had :)
Not sure if it's intentional, but to me it also feels like an allusion to Eris starting the Trojan war with her golden apple.
7:40 “I don’t have a [mnemonic] device for ODYSSEYus, we’ll just have to remember that one”
Canonically, he’s supposed to have a very forgettable, “oh, nobody” name.
I see what you did there
Right? That was my thought was just remember the title of the whole story and you have a mnemonic device for his name.
Thanks for having me on the channel, and thanks to everyone for watching! More is to come very soon (so no spoiling him!), I can't wait to keep going through this together!
Wait wait, so you are doing it together? It wasn’t clear in the first video. Because I really hope that’s the case. Both of your reactions are great. His as someone new to this musical, but also you who like us is just giddy to show it off. An amazing video, and I can’t wait for more
@@BrittanyArtPoetry we weren’t planning on doing it together at first but we had so much fun that we’ll be doing ALL of Act One together as a co-reaction 🥰 (Act 2 tbd, once that starts to get released)
Btw, Zeus was not Jorge.
@@officialmortiussince you asked about how to handle the Underworld saga, the answer is pretty clear - wait until you two catch up and the have both a genuine first reaction to the final three songs of the first act ✨️✨️
@@officialmortius its so interesting to see how different people percieve the sqme lyrics.
10:10 I AM USEFUL WOOOOOO
“Captain!”
“You really cussed??” was how I first heard it so there's the ✨origin✨
It's like the “well done, you lied to me what's your name?” or the “when does a cabbage become a meteor?”
“Badass ✨senorita✨”
Oh, btw! Odysseus comes from the Odyssey, Odyssey US, Odysseus.
@@GleamDrawz I thought it was the other way around! Isn't the word Odyssey derived from his name?
@@cojec i think maybe?? Not really sure but if it's a pun, kudos to Homer lmao
Isn't the "well done, you lied to me whats your name" the original lyrics? Or have i literally misheard that line thr whole time? Cause if i have I'll feel incredibly stupid😂😂
@@yuriatsugi3696it’s “well done, enlighten me” originally, but several lyric sites write it as “you lied to me” and also Mr jalapeño has also heard the Lied To Me interpretation and thought it was funny (“she’s like great job! you’re a liar! *wheeze*”) so do with that information what you will
Noooo Jorge doesn’t voice Zeus, it’s Luke Holt’s doing🥹 he’s really cool, he also voices some background soldiers
Andd if I’m not mistaken soldiers aren’t Jay’s voice either (in final release), sometime ago he talked on his tiktok about hiring a choir or smth like that in order for them to do it
I though he voiced zeus on the first one only and other times was Luke
I don’t think so. There are clips of Jorge singing Zeus’ part before the finale release of the song, and I think that’s were the rumor comes from. I don’t think Jorge would switch up the voice of a character in the finale releases of the songs as it would be confusing for fans. Not only that but if you listen to the clip of Jorge singing the song he sounds a little different than the voice from the finale version. One last thing I know I’m posting a paragraph and I could be completely wrong 😅but I believe there is a clip of the cast singing this song with the actual voice of Zeus
@@helixnebula8363 he did before he cast Holt as Zeus. Jorge is the voice of Polyphemus too.
Quick fact check: All of these songs have multiple people singing. Zeus is not voiced by Jorge.
Also, If you listen closely, one of the winions says "scary cave."
That's not a winion, that's a Lotus eater. The winions are Aeolus's minions. You know, "wind minions".
@@jurassicfreak2579 you're right. I was just watching the Ocean saga. 🤣
@@jurassicfreak2579It is actually a winion, lotus eaters in Epic are just winions who somehow got onto that island as far as I know.
@@mercan9834 Wait, really? Damn, all right. Sorry for the mistaken correction 😓
@@jurassicfreak2579 No problem! I mean, you didn’t correct me but still hahaha. To be fair, I think he said that this wasn’t his original plan, but he liked the headcanons so decided to make it canon.
As a person invested in story making and writing, "The horse and the infant" feels like being thrown into the middle of a story where "Warrior of the mind" is the _"how did we get here?"_
Basically a "Hi, this is me, I guess you're wondering how i got here, well, let me explain"
The Odyssey itself does this! It's a trope called "in media res," starting in the middle of action and then going into more detail later about how it happened. A prominent franchise that does this- both at the very start and in the individual entries- is Star Wars.
The Odyssey itself does this! It's a trope called "in media res," starting in the middle of action and then going into more detail later about how it happened. A prominent franchise that does this- both at the very start and in the individual entries- is Star Wars.
Athena is not Odysseus's mother, Athena is actually one of the few Greek gods who had retained their purity and remained a virgin. There is a story where she and Hephaestus get close while he forged her special weapons but Hephaestus misinterpreted her intentions and got rejected.
i think they are refering to Percy Jackson Lore, there Athena can have child but she gave born them with the mind, like she, so she is still pure; and there Odysseus is one of her child
sorry for my bad english :p
I know people had said Mortius was wrong about the lotus eaters, but he’s not. They are in fact winions. It wasn’t Jorge’s original plan, but after he saw the headcanons, he liked the idea and made it canon. Also I think he voices the winions with a voice effect.
I really recommend Mircsy’s animatics for Cyclops Saga (aside from Remember Them, since they didn’t make one for that one, Wolfy’s Remember Them is great though)
I thought the winions were the little guys Aeolus had
@@pinkred22 yeah they are
@@pinkred22 however Mircsy's design made them look like the winions which, I have no regrets about seeing it made canon
Zeus is actually voiced by Luke Holt 😊
Great time! You can really tell this was filmed before listening to the Underworld Saga. 😅😅😅
Right? I was like, "Oh, sweet summer children..."
Oh, something that another fan noticed, firstly Athena sings “mind” on only one high note (Odysseus sings it “mi-i-i-i-i-ind” using a few notes), after that he and Athena sing it with Athena’s one high note and Odysseus’ few notes, and the second duo has both of them singing “mi-i-i-i-i-ind” showing their connection and harmonization. Athena stays in the few notes at the end. You could also show drifting away in the same way.
Another thing, adding to the angel and devil thing, the lower voice represents the harshness of the character, while Polites’ high voice showcases his optimism. It’s also supposed to differentiate them, cause one said ‘go attack them’ and the other says ‘go and be friends with them’.
Fun fact: Athena is a maiden goddess. The children of Athena made out of thoughts thingy was made for PJO exclusively. And an owl is Athena’s sacred animal.
And look out for ‘the danger theme’. There is a motif in music called the danger theme added by Jay.
"Po sei don" GIVES ME CHILLS EVERY TIME I HEAR IT
Exactly what I was talking about
@@Natalia-cm8im It's so intensely clear to hear because the danger isn't near, the danger _is here._ 😆
The Polities design is inspired by Steven Dookie his VA, like many other characters
I love Wolff’s artistic choices with the main three, especially concerning their hair. Odysseus, as the main character, has triangular shaped locks, as triangles are the most diverse shape. They can be strong, as all of the vertices of triangles are locked, and they can be dangerous and pointy. Polites has round curly hair, a wispy look that is reminiscent of both his round bouncy nature and also his curly whispy lasting impression on Odysseus long after his death. Finally Eurylochus has straight and blocky hair, closely shaven, giving him the impression of a strong moral support while also being hard on Odysseus to do the sensible thing. It’s insane that simple shapes can carry so much meaning!
I fucking died from those mnemonics 😂 “You-really-cussed” and “Polite-s” 😂😂😂
And Odysseus is from the Odyssey!
Oh, idk if I should correct this...
But Eurylochus isn't an acoustic guitar. His instrument is the choir of men, as he is the voice of the crew. Odysseus is the guitar, electric when he's fighting, acoustic when he's not.
Edit: Also, Epic is fully sung through. No spoken dialogue.
Fun fact: Odysseus is Hermes' Great Great grandson from his mother side
Just great grandson. Anticlea's (Odysseus's mom) father is Autolycus (probably spelling that wrong) and Autolycus is Hermes's son.
@@carlycchapman oh thanks the greek family tree gets confusing for me i lose track of who's whose
@@kirakizumi9028 Don't we all 😂
the way the first pjo series is structured is very cool cause most of the books can be tied to a specific greek hero's journey (lightning thief is based off perseus, last olympian off achilles, etc.) so if you've read sea of monsters you really have a basic summary of the odyssey!
the greek gods are very linked to their sacred animals and appear in their form to mortals a lot. for zeus it's the eagle (the bird in the horse and the infant) and for athena the owl. that's why they're associated with wisdom and why the athenians had the famous little owl in their coins.
One of the funniest things about owls being Athenas animal and representing wisdom is that if you've ever worked with them they are maybe the least intelligent group of birds to exist. There is nothing going on in those hollow little heads, and they're basically just a feathery tube for processing meat with some instincts slapped on. Amazing hunters but nothing between the ears in the way of higher thought.
I absolutely love them but the irony of their reputation vs the reality is hilarious to me.
@@feistsorcerer2251I’ve nothing to add I just wanna say I love your description of owls’ No Thoughts Head Empty nature it made me snort
I’m stupid so what is book 3 and 4?
@@HorseChild book 3 is less clear and way more vague but i'd say heracles cause he plays a big part in zoë's backstory, though it doesn't really reflect his adventures like it does the others' (but i could be forgetting something, it's been a while). book 4 are theseus and dedalus!
In the original demos for the songs, the characters were voiced by Jorge, but in the official concept album all characters have been cast, including the soldiers.
Zeus is performed by Luke Holt
And the soldiers are a 6 man ensemble performed by
Jorge Rivera-Herrans(voice of Odysseus and Polyphemus), Luke Holt (voice of Zeus and Elpenor), Armando Julian (voice of Eurylochus), Aryon Alexander, Troy Doherty (voice of Hermes), and Earl Gresham Jr.
"it's not like Hamilton or Les mis where it just goes to next song everytime" actually it is, epic is a fully song through musical, this has been confirmed by Jorge
Seriously? I love the musical, but it does feel like there’s a couple of jumps between the songs? If this was done on stage it would be a struggle to understand if you didn’t already have knowledge about the musical or the odyssey
@@DrAxolots keep in mind it is still a concept album, it's not perfect and there will likely be changes made for future productions
hey, just fun little fact for a part of the open arms animatic.
when Polites throws an apple to Odysseus that's basically asking a wedding proposal in Ancient Greece.
thought that was a fun little detail that the animator used.
Watching this Odysseus, directly after watching monster, is painful. he's so happy.
5:49 so Eurylicous is actually mainly the “voice of the crew” hence why he’s vocals are always flowed by the crew
Eurylochus*
You may also call Jorge: Mr Jalapeño, Jorgy Porgy, Pimbo Jimbo.
(If I've left out any, I'm sure others can elaborate)
The creatures in Open Arms aren't called the winions, they're the Lotus Eaters. The winions don't appear until the song "Keep your friends close."
Yea I was confused why he was saying that.. these are the Lotus Eaters
33:08 so here the ensemble behind odysseus are brought up by Athena when sung in song on “Athena” and “arena” and stuff. She liked how young odysseus was fanboying over her basically (it’s adorable😭🤍)
If you need help with Odysseus name, think “Oh, dis is us.” I’m surprised no one thought of that.
Bro, I just think of the Odyssey. it's just Odysse-us
Oh no, Jorge doesn’t voice Zeus. I think Mortius is confusing it with Jorge’s TikToks, where he posted snippets of the songs sung by him. There are a lot of those from already released songs and from future ones too.
In the part "Open Arms" when Polites threw an apple at Odysseus.. did you know that according to Greek myth, throwing an apple at someone means professing your love to them. If they catch it, it means they love you too. So, I guess that's why he dropped it? Haha or maybe not😬😄
36:18 the runs show like how eventually Athena starts trusting odysseus as she is “influenced”by him essentially. Since the first “mind” they harmonized jay did a special run then they do it together then she does it alone.
thank god for more eyes and attention on this gem of a musical project
Athena isn't his mom, but Hermes is his great-grandfather.
16:29 those letters are from the IPA (international phonetic alphabet), if I remeber correctly from my courses in linguistics. It is used to write languages by sound, not orthography or writing system. You can see it used in dictionaries (or Wikipedia articles), it basically tells you how to pronounce things/how words sound.
I believe the animators name would be pronounced "mirt-shee", based on what I remember about the letters :)
If they did in fact use the IPA, that's just what it looks like to me
Or, alternatively, it could be mir-chee, as in IPA /͡tʃ/ is also used for the 'ch' sound like in chair or Charizard.
Edit: After a bit of research, she indeeds confirms on her tumblr that it's mir-chee, as I think she's Hungarian, and 'cs' is indeed pronounced as ch there.
@@Kamarovsky_KCM true! Although, if I think about it, the pronounciation is actually pretty much the same I guess, only difference would be to what syllable you say the /t/ belongs to
@@seeschwalbe Hah I suppose if you speak it fast then yeah hardly a difference. Though personally I would look at you funny if you pronounced 'chair' as 'tshair' lmao
@@Kamarovsky_KCM well, now you had me saying various versions of "chair" to myself for like two minutes straight😂
But seriously, would there be an actual difference do you think? Because to me as a native German speaker, the consonants in the phrases "the chair" and for example "that share" sound pretty much the same (if you do the "linking" of the words like in a sentence). Maybe the "sh"-sound in "chair" is a liiittle bit harsher, but it's really hard for me to find a difference there tbh
(Also I don't have the IPA to write with on here, unfortunately)
@@seeschwalbe Haha I can imagine.
But yeah, by pronunciation rules there is quite a difference between the two. 'Ch' is a sibilant affricate, and to paraphrase the Wikipedia meaning, it means it is produced by first stopping the air flow entirely, and then doing the hissy thing, and 'Sh' is a fricative, so it only involves the hissy thing.
Kinda like a difference between 'ts' at the end of cats, and an 's'.
Or to give an example more fitting for German, as it appears both sounds occur in there: The 'ch' sound is like 'tsch' in Matsch, and 'sh' is like 'sch' in schon.
Hope this helps!
I've been waiting for this for so long, it's almost to hard to wait any longer, but I'll manage ❤
When you react to the Cyclops saga I suggest watching all of Mircsy's videos on it. (The same one who made the Open Arms and Warrior of the Mind, you watched here)
The videos are on:
Polyphemous
Survive
and My Goodbye.
Polyphemous flows well into Survive, while Mircsy's My Goodbye is, to my mind, the best animatic on that song.
Welcome to the EPIC Family! :insert chaos Elmo meme:
Chaos Elmo is the best way to describe it😆
I love how neither of you, when Polites asks where to find more food, catches the fact that the Lotus Eaters reply with: “A cave! Scary cave!” 😂 the Lotus Eaters know what’s in the cave.
According to Jay the musical is actually completely song through.
right now its just a concept so obv a lot can change but yeah it is sung through, the one thing im worried abt is some of the transitions from songs are really harsh, and even tho jay said he doesnt ever plan to bring it on stage cuz its just not that type of musical i feel as though people listening through can lose the plot sometimes and i really hope he adds more clarification, sticks out most to me with the transition from open arms to warrior of the mind i know when i first watched i was like wait where are we now
i think this might be one of, if not the best, Epic reactions Ive seen yet! I love the dynamic between the two of you and the way you analyze both story, music, AND animation. Usually I find its one or the other but you two are great! I cant wait to see your thoughts on the rest of the musical!
I've never seen a person make a raspberry to signal for a Time Out! but I absolutely loved it.
I believe Jorge got in contact with Zeus' singer Luke early enough to bring him in to Troy Saga! I am so glad, he really adds a lot of Handsome, Deep-Toned Drama!
Fun Fact, this musical is actually fully sung through, to go against what Mortius said, so this is actually the full story
I think you two have a really good reaction dynamic, especially for this. You tend to get emotionally impacted by similar things which resonates well, but you each have different areas of expertise. That lets you give unique feedback that builds off of one another.
I hope you'll consider reacting together to more Epic content and maybe other musicals in the future, because the dynamic works very well.
So excited for you to continue exploring the amazing world of *EPIC!*
I love that in Warrior of the Mind you hear Athena at first do the Miiiiiind at a high note, then when Odysseus is added he does a bit of a run while Athena still does the high note. Next time they do it together they do the run together symbolizing their growing relationship. Then Athena does the run on her own. It's so fucking peak, I love the attention to detail in this song writing
Also i dont know if someone said but what other people said its widely, known greek gods dont appear i mean they will but not usually. They speak through your head all the time so Odysseus change in personality is him literally having a whole conversation with his god. in real time what feels like seconds but in his heads its minutes so thats actually why in open arms its portrayed like that and also later on th soloders arnt freaking out when Athena suddenly appears to give Odysseus advice cause the whole conversations happened in his head
Wolfy goes hard with colours in his Philza and you'll also hear ticking in Athena's songs
That last shot of Polites with the "You can relax, my friend" always makes me BAWL MY EYES OUT
I think other people might have mentioned it- BUT! here's a fun fact I cant get out of my head since I learned it:
In Warrior Of The Mind, when Athena firstly sings the chorus by herself, she holds the note in 'Mind'.
Later, when she and Odysseus sing together for the first time, she _still_ holds the note there, but Odysseus makes a fun run in the background (which is the part that sounded GORGEOUS and you both loved so much haha).
The second time they sing "We are the warriors of the mind" together, it seems Athena noticed that Odysseus does something differently with his vocals, so she also does the run instead of holding the high note like before. Essentially doing what Odysseus does instead of her own method before knowing him.
AND when she sings alone again, she still does the run of notes instead of what she did before meeting Odysseus.
This is to show basically how their relationship started fo build. The trust she put on him. She started knowing Odysseus- and the fact it is shown musically like that makes it SOOOO cool. Mr. Jalapeño is a GENIUS.
Please re-listen to the song and see what I mean. I can't no longer listen to it without noticing how Athena essentially adapts to him. How she _accepts_ him and embraces his ways to a certain level.
Great video btw!
I'm so happy to see new people getting into EPIC! I truly hope you dive into this series! Also, only nitpick I have about the video is that Casper's audio is pretty quiet compared to the animatic and Mortius.
Jorge calls Athena's telepathic ability Quick Thought. It's indicated by the synths.
I can’t wait! I’ve been waiting since I saw the early access video on Mortius’s Patreon, and I can’t wait to see how you react to the rest of The Troy Saga!
I’m so excited!
i only hope you two keep reacting to this show its amazing. So, i wanted to detail some details of the song, when athena sings "its a warrior of the mind" in the first time she mantain the note high. Then when she sings with odysseus she still mantain the note high but odyseus makes that rift with the voice pointing he's own personality and then, when athena sings that line again in the end she makes the rift that odysseus did so its kind of intentional cause Jorge explains that Athena in this song established a conection with odysseus so, we can think like athena also makes her personality based in the mood of odysseus even when she design him
(This detail it also appears in other songs but, im not gonna spoil until you reach that moment
I love the one little snitch lotus eater quietly going "Scary cave" after the others tell Polites about the cave
Fun Facts: While Polites and Ody were childhood friends Eurylochus usually wasn't. He comes from an island near Ithaca, I believe the name was Same. He is Ody's second because Eury married Ctimene, Odysseus's younger sister. In case you wanted some background... to make things... idk I'll go with 'better'.
Edit: little late and all but: Odysseus, main character of "The Odyssey"... Ody works too, its what most of us call him.
OH! Fun Fact 2: while it isn't the one shown Polites is a kind of butterfly!
Edit 2: Everyone seems to miss "A scary cave..." that comes in quietly after the other Winions say "A cave!"
Edit 3: Even more than just being Athena's project for so long, the most accepted family heritage for Ody is that his Great Grandfather is Hermes... so when Zeus (Hermes's dad) shows up and warns him of a dire threat Ody listened.
Jorge actually sends out concept videos for animators! He did so for The Underworld Saga at least.
Mortius and I did a Patreon-Exclusive reaction to the Underworld listening-party thingy you're talking about - Was dope! :)
Eurylochus: we should just raid the place-
Polites: 😡😡😡
Don’t worry @Mortius, I also consider rhetorical questions to be “not real questions!” I do also have autism tho so 😅
I mean it's the Odyssey. He's Odysseus. His name's in the title!
More than that, Athena in real myth has only apprentices, not children. She, alongside Hestia and Artemis is part of the group of the 3 virgin goddesses. She does not have children, and even in percy jackson they explained it away as her basically using magic to make children rather than actual anything.
Odysseus is however the great grandchild of hermes! His maternal grandfather is a legendary shapeshifting thief.
13:25 Jorge is not the voice of Zeus. Theres another VA for him
You two vibing off each other gives me life. I need you two to react to all epic content together from now on!
I love how close the last two animatics are to resembling the vocalists haha. So good.
Jorge, the creator, is a musical genius. Listen closely in "Open Arms." The Lotus Eaters have little interjections that you have to listen pretty closely to to hear. In "Warrior of the Mind," Athena first sings 'Mind' with a sustained note. When Odysseus comes in and he first sings 'Mind' he sings it as a vocal run, or melisma. After Athena hears him sing it like that she does the same showing that while she is teaching him, he is teaching her as well.
CASPER DON'T READ THIS COMMENT
I know you're reading
The way Mortius Is SMILING when we meet Polites knowing what happens..... 😭
Clearly recorded before the Underworld Saga. Otherwise he would've been devastated seeing that 🥹😅😂
I absoulutly LOVE how Mircsy was able represent Athena's power of "Quick Thought" I believe it's called. She pulls people into the mind in order to have a full telepathic conversation in the span of a few milliseconds.
I know that some of the voices when first shown on TikTok (posted prior to the release of the albums) were mostly all Jorge with a few characters already having people casted, but now the albums are fully casted.
23:23 I've watched this animatic a dozen times and just noticed Polities basically proposes to Odysyus because in Greece it was tradition to throw someone an apple as a wedding proposal and if they caught it they accept
Edit- just realised it's only sparta
"Open Arms" gets interpreted as the "pacifist song" but thats not what's happening here
Polites has noticed his friend is troubled, he waits until they're alone to gently confront him about how high-strung/tense he is
The song starts with "I can tell youre getting nervous" and "I know that youre tired of the war & bloodshed" and "look at how you grip your sword"
Then he gives his argument for how Odysseus can start to heal.
"Greet the world with open arms" doesnt mean "no violence ever" he's telling Odysseus that _most often_ people are good & helpful, Odysseus' will feel so much better if he doesnt assume every stranger will try to kill him
The song ends with "I see in your face there is so much guilt inside your heart"
He wants Odysseus to start to heal.
THATS also why Athena drops down immediately to yell at Odysseus, she chose him as her champion & he accepted!
He doesnt get to back to civillian life, he doesnt get to relax. He must always be "on." He must always be a warripr first (even tho he's fraying at the seams)
That makes everything so much sadder because (Spoilers)
Odysseus mental health _does Not_ get better past the Troy Saga
I just noticed in the last "Thanks for Watching" , the O is an eye
"I have no idea what that was" The sheep. As you (Mortius) said next is the cyclops saga, the "thanks for watching" has an eye inside the only O in the sentence, and the sheep from the cave can be heard on the background :)
7:37 I remember Odysseus via the name of the book being “The Odyssey”. Odyssey means journey, and the book is about his journey! (Yes, the meaning of Odyssey comes from the book)
Casper: For example, saying testicles like Testikles
Moritus: (Instant 1HKO)
I greatly enjoyed the two of you interacting with the reactions of the EPIC musical. Great job. Keep up the good work, and please do another one!
Zeus was actually played by Luke Holt
Athena, the Kyoshi of Greek Mythology lol
omg . . I NEVER seen that end flash in open arms until just now . . .THE HECK .feaufhoeaufhoaefhoaeuhoaefhuof How do I keep finding new things with this!? Ahh!! so many layers!
In Athena’s defense majority of successful people in all of mythology tend to be cruel and powerful (AHEM ZEUS)
This is amazing I really want to keep watching you react to the other sagas PLEASE it’s more of a need than a want. Welcome to the EPIC fandom!
I love mortius’ giggle at the end of open arms lol
It is in fact like Hamilton & Les Mis. Jay has stated it's fully sung through
Casper, your reactions are now my favorite when it comes to Epic. I was right there along with you catching all the little references.
I was SO EXCITED to see your reaction to this - it's so much fun! I LOVED seeing you and Mortius react to Epic - it's really interesting getting the musical and story/character perspectives - and I really hope we get to see you do the other sagas. I'm so happy you're enjoying it! 💖
When Mortius said Polites is his everything I just thought of odysseus singing "she's my everything, my penelope" in there are other ways, so now I'm imagining a parody about polites instead
22:31
So fun fact. Almost all of the vocal lines are supposed to be physically spoken out.
So, for example, in Just a Man. When he says, "Close your eyes, spare yourself the view," he's actually saying that to the infant as he's contemplating and struggling with his actions.
How to remember Odysseus is the name of the protagonist: Odysse(y/uss)
13:15 zeus wasn’t voiced by jorge however in the the first version it was voiced by jorge because he wasn’t holding auditions and the song was unfinished and the soldiers were actually also not sang by jorge and like in the first version it was voiced by jorge cuz the song was unfinished
Idk abt ya, but my way of memorising the names was listening to this brillian musical 1000 times on repeat 🤣
This was so much more than fun! This was... lotf of fun! I have not watched Epic before, and I'm just enthralled. Thank you both for working hard on introducing me to this! Gosh, if I only had access to this when we studies Odysseia in high-school, close to 30 years ago...
Please continue this. You both are so entertaining to watch react to this beloved musical concept album.
Over here from Mortius’s channel and can’t wait to see the second half of this reaction! Part 1 was amazing! I loved his reaction! OMG!
I AM BURSTING WITH EXCITEMENT RN
Yassssss!! Casper welcome to the Epic addiction!! I hope you enjoy the ride!!
I'd love to see you react to the rest of the sagas!
Please do More!!! I LOVE seeing people reactions!!!
Cant wait for you to hear more. Im sure somewhere i read that epic is a complete sung through musical so no dialogue.
If this show hits the staage its going to be bigger then Hamilton
Been waiting ao long from mortius parreon. Cant wait to watch with you