Nice 👌 very nice !! Swear you are the GOD of g23 builds! 😆 I did 45 degree on my last torque sequence since I'm using a inch torque wrench and it doesn't go past 60ft lbs 😅 but I marked the top of the bolt with a sharpie and cranked it til it reached a 45 degree angle. And I'm using stock oem headbolts, but I made sure to buy brand new ones. I ended up re using my last set twice and I think I started leaking some coolant into the cylinders.. I had some oil on top of the pistons when I disassembled the last block. But I remember I poured oil through the spark plug tube on all the cylinders just to try and lube up the cylinders since I had a hard time turning the motor over by hand and did not know it was due to me having 5he rods on backwards and having all the rod caps mixed up and on the wrong rods.. uh yai yai.. but this time around, I promise I did everything right and made sure to double check every nut and bolt.
Thank you very much. Are you also building a frank motor? Thought of sharing some of my experienced building this frank motor, w/c a lot of people stay away from it coz it can really be a pain in the( you what). Hope l'll get lucky on this one. 3rd time is a charm l hope. Hey thanks for watching.
Hey Noel! Hope everything is going well! I'm always coming back to your videos to make my day go by faster and more motivation.. lol work can be boring and back breaking sometimes. But I'm rebuilding a motor and going a all motor route this time.. using j30a5 pistons instead of k20a2 pistons this time.. so my compression won't be through the roof again and blow all of my ring lands like last time..
Doing good, still working on Myllie, it seems no end lol!. Just got done fixing all the air leaks. Now l need to have it retune. Boost cut or fuel cut on 3rd gear, you'll see sometime next week. Hi compression is not good, unless you use e85. Alright bud, go easy and good luck on your build. Later
Great job 👏 keep it up I'm doing a f22a1 non vtech and staying N/A wish there were more builds on that motor but it's kinda cool to do one that's different than most others.
Hey, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Question, do you think the felpro head gasket going on a h22 block and head would also have the same issue like not covering the drainage port completely like it did in you f22 block?
No worries man! You shouldn't have a problem on felpro headgasket on H22 block and head. The problem we run into was on frank motor, were we used F23 felpro headgasket on H22 head. Your'e ok on straight H.
Very nice, I’m in the process of rebuilding my h22, if i wanted to go for an f23 block, I can use 86mm k20a pistons w/ f23 rods? And with an oem f23 HG it just bolts up? Are there any other issues to look out for? There is quite a lot of misinformation on this Frankenstein engine.. many people say it’s prone to failure.. I’m just looking forward to larger displacement as well as cast iron sleeves. You make it seem like no worries.. let me know, maybe it’s better than rebuilding my h22 with FRM sleeves.
Yes, f23/ h22 hybrid is a bit of a headache if not done correctly. It really require a bit of multiple tries to get it right. Running NA is not bad and boost it is another. This is my 3rd attemp running a boost g23vtec. Why l'm doin it again is to test all those previous 2 hybrid that engine that died on me. If l fail on this 1, l'll put this hybrid to rest. I can suggest if you want to try it out building 1. Try it out for a project and have a spare car, so if it breaks, it doesnt leave you stranded. Rebuild your H22 coz of the reliability of it. I'm hoping this motor(g23vtec) will be a successful 1, we'll see. Hoping it'll be ready by early next year.
I'm not sure if it matters or not but I can't seem to find a part number for arp head studs for the f23a1, I'm building a g23 turbo myself and dont know which head studs to get. H22, h23, or an f series set
Thanks man for showing me this video ☺️ after welding the oil drain plugs should i weld some material in where the gasket was leaking in that hole so it can mate properly but don't weld it shut leave a hole so oil can go threw ?
As long as you use a Honda OE F23 headgasket and make sure you do a good job installing a plug on your cyl head. Only use Hondabond, Megagrey sealant or any equivalent sealant of those 2 brand from your area. If you are using a Kstune headplug that use 2 O ring seals, apply some sealant over it. Lots of people complain that oil seep pass thru it still. I think its because of 2 dissimilar metal. It expand and contract differently. That's only my opinion, also make sure that the cyl head is flat or w/in Honda specs. Good luck on your project and leave a msg of you need any help. Later man!
Why not use Cometic head gaskets? Does the f23 OEM clear the combustion chamber and what about water jackets? Wouldn't you want h22 water flow to match the head ?
I never tried any other brand orher than Felpro and it gave us a oil leak problem. There was an area that felpro f23 headgasket didnt quite cover on the head side. So l stick w/ oem, + $$ wise, oem and felpro are almost same price. I always match the block when it comes to f23 block. I can only recommend Oem F23 headgasket and not try any other. This is base on my experienced and always watch those copper rivets that hold the gasket together.
It's a good engine and put out some good result. Specially good amount of torque. You can make over 500hp on motor that has a lot of support mods. I know a friend that has over 600hp.
Car use to be automatic and l used the existing harness. I connect a Prelude obd1 alternator connector but you can use ypur civic alternator and no need to change connector but you need to change the belt pulley to match f23 crank pulley.
No, coz the f23 block are missing 2 oil drain port at the timing belt side. Unless you use h22a4 block (98-2k, 55mm) and f23 internals. You can go that route. Just remove the oil squirters and plug the port
I'm not too sure if it can be couple together like the usdm F22 and F23 series block. I googled searched it and f20z1 has 85mmx88mm. I think your best bet will be to check out F20B cyl head and it's basically same head like H22 except H22 has bigger valves. Headgasket are the key, make sure to try out the head gasket (youll use the f20z1 headgasket) on either cyl head you have and start from there. Pay attention on the thin side space of the gasket at oil drain port and copper seal. I think this will give you a idea if it's possible. Thanks mate.
men i apreceated all ur info thanks for anwser my question here is the plan i have a 1998 honda accord that i trying to make a jtcc jaccs replica it came stock with a 2liter no vtec and im triyng to swap head toa vtecsohc o dohc head beocuse the block and all the components are in a pretty goood condition the car have 28843km ,if u have some idea or suggest. i love ur videos man keep going@@sagittnet2158
Hey big question if anyone can plz answer me this why the H22A4 cylinder head VTEC worth more than the block? I noticed people be slapping on H seri heads on basically everything
I think it's because of the block has a FRM sleeve not the iron sleeve that everyone after. With iron sleeve, your pistons selection are endless for boost. In my opinion.
Lol yeah its understandable why this combination exist however the stroke of this motor added too 8k+ rpm is hell on piston and cylinder walls, unless long-term durability and reliability isnt a concern, if this is a requirement h23 crank probably be a better choice for high revving as the f23 is more of a torque monster than anything else, but probably still cheaper either route than a k swap 😉
I don't remember 1 of the stud is longer. Did you get a Arp studs for H22? There is one spot where one stud is sunk further down than others and its located on the middle by the intake side. I have a video where l compare all of the studs when its all tighten down. I'll check if l can see it.
Your headstuds are not for H22. You can see it on that episode, got it all laid out and all even. It's best to use the correct lenght to prevent any mishap that will occur in the future.
@@grandazzo6634 that p/n headstuds might not have the correct length but if you can search or have a H22 headbolts actual length and compare to yours, that'll be excellent.
@@grandazzo6634 I'd just checked my parts bin and I compared the F23a OE headbolts on my H headbolts. H22 are longer, your studs are for F22, F23, H23a1 but it will not work for H22, H23a, F20b cyl head w/ F23, F22 block. Sorry to say but its best to get H22 headstuds arp 208-4304
I only use F23 OE headgasket and never had a failure except for using a Felpro( failed, oil leak). I guess if your f23 block is bore to 87mm it'll work. Some people have used H22 headgasket but not sure if they never experience any leak.
@@sagittnet2158 I’m currently making a g23 I’m welding the block instead of the head(f23 blocks are cheaper than h heads). Just trying to figure out logistics for this to see how reliable it actually is
@@spicychum9936 you dont really need to weld the oil drain galley. I never have a issue of oil leaking by using a water plug and applied a honda bond on the head. For the block, just use only Honda OE F23 headgasket.
I dont think is possible not unless the headbolt patern and at least 4 oil drain galley are align. The only way to find out is to get a F18b2 headgasket and line it up to F20b or H22 cyl head or headgasket.
Nice 👌 very nice !! Swear you are the GOD of g23 builds! 😆 I did 45 degree on my last torque sequence since I'm using a inch torque wrench and it doesn't go past 60ft lbs 😅 but I marked the top of the bolt with a sharpie and cranked it til it reached a 45 degree angle. And I'm using stock oem headbolts, but I made sure to buy brand new ones. I ended up re using my last set twice and I think I started leaking some coolant into the cylinders.. I had some oil on top of the pistons when I disassembled the last block. But I remember I poured oil through the spark plug tube on all the cylinders just to try and lube up the cylinders since I had a hard time turning the motor over by hand and did not know it was due to me having 5he rods on backwards and having all the rod caps mixed up and on the wrong rods.. uh yai yai.. but this time around, I promise I did everything right and made sure to double check every nut and bolt.
Thank you very much. Are you also building a frank motor? Thought of sharing some of my experienced building this frank motor, w/c a lot of people stay away from it coz it can really be a pain in the( you what). Hope l'll get lucky on this one. 3rd time is a charm l hope. Hey thanks for watching.
Hey Noel! Hope everything is going well! I'm always coming back to your videos to make my day go by faster and more motivation.. lol work can be boring and back breaking sometimes. But I'm rebuilding a motor and going a all motor route this time.. using j30a5 pistons instead of k20a2 pistons this time.. so my compression won't be through the roof again and blow all of my ring lands like last time..
Doing good, still working on Myllie, it seems no end lol!. Just got done fixing all the air leaks. Now l need to have it retune. Boost cut or fuel cut on 3rd gear, you'll see sometime next week. Hi compression is not good, unless you use e85. Alright bud, go easy and good luck on your build. Later
Great job 👏 keep it up I'm doing a f22a1 non vtech and staying N/A wish there were more builds on that motor but it's kinda cool to do one that's different than most others.
Thanks man and yes there's not a whole lot of build when it comes on g22.
I’m doing an f22a4 build sir. I’ll post it on youtube when it’s done😂
All good advice man.
Thanks brotha!
Hey, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Question, do you think the felpro head gasket going on a h22 block and head would also have the same issue like not covering the drainage port completely like it did in you f22 block?
No worries man! You shouldn't have a problem on felpro headgasket on H22 block and head. The problem we run into was on frank motor, were we used F23 felpro headgasket on H22 head. Your'e ok on straight H.
Very nice, I’m in the process of rebuilding my h22, if i wanted to go for an f23 block, I can use 86mm k20a pistons w/ f23 rods? And with an oem f23 HG it just bolts up? Are there any other issues to look out for? There is quite a lot of misinformation on this Frankenstein engine.. many people say it’s prone to failure.. I’m just looking forward to larger displacement as well as cast iron sleeves. You make it seem like no worries.. let me know, maybe it’s better than rebuilding my h22 with FRM sleeves.
Yes, f23/ h22 hybrid is a bit of a headache if not done correctly. It really require a bit of multiple tries to get it right. Running NA is not bad and boost it is another. This is my 3rd attemp running a boost g23vtec. Why l'm doin it again is to test all those previous 2 hybrid that engine that died on me. If l fail on this 1, l'll put this hybrid to rest. I can suggest if you want to try it out building 1. Try it out for a project and have a spare car, so if it breaks, it doesnt leave you stranded. Rebuild your H22 coz of the reliability of it. I'm hoping this motor(g23vtec) will be a successful 1, we'll see. Hoping it'll be ready by early next year.
I heard the k series pistons on g22/23 build bumps the compression up to like 10:1 or 11.5:1 is that true?
good job #100
Thank you man!
Hi there, I enjoy your videos. Where did you get your workshop manuals for the head and I'm assuming that you have one covering the f23? Thank you
Thanks, got it from the web years ago Honda-tech.com and for the F23, l just google search it and narrowing it down to something specific on F23.
Nice build on G23 VTEC. I wonder why you decided to go with a lox retrainers and springs, why not Supertech? Just wonder.
Price difference, plus the reviews about Blox valve train product.
@@sagittnet2158 Oh I see and understand, cool. Keep it up until it is done.
I'm not sure if it matters or not but I can't seem to find a part number for arp head studs for the f23a1, I'm building a g23 turbo myself and dont know which head studs to get. H22, h23, or an f series set
Use H22 Arp headstuds and good luck to your build.
@@sagittnet2158 excellent. I assumed I'd use the h22 ones, considering it's a h22 head
Thanks man for showing me this video ☺️ after welding the oil drain plugs should i weld some material in where the gasket was leaking in that hole so it can mate properly but don't weld it shut leave a hole so oil can go threw ?
Yes, a little bit of material for the f23 headgasket to bite into. That way, you can use any other headgasket if choose.
@@sagittnet2158 🙌thanks man
Hey noel,question, I'm having trouble finding an OEM F23A head gasket, is there a site you recommend? The closest I could find to OEM is ishono stone
I get my OE parts from Hondapartsonline.com
So I can use the F23A1 head gasket with no issue? I have a H22A head and I don’t want it to leak
As long as you use a Honda OE F23 headgasket and make sure you do a good job installing a plug on your cyl head. Only use Hondabond, Megagrey sealant or any equivalent sealant of those 2 brand from your area. If you are using a Kstune headplug that use 2 O ring seals, apply some sealant over it. Lots of people complain that oil seep pass thru it still. I think its because of 2 dissimilar metal. It expand and contract differently. That's only my opinion, also make sure that the cyl head is flat or w/in Honda specs. Good luck on your project and leave a msg of you need any help. Later man!
Why not use Cometic head gaskets? Does the f23 OEM clear the combustion chamber and what about water jackets? Wouldn't you want h22 water flow to match the head ?
I never tried any other brand orher than Felpro and it gave us a oil leak problem. There was an area that felpro f23 headgasket didnt quite cover on the head side. So l stick w/ oem, + $$ wise, oem and felpro are almost same price. I always match the block when it comes to f23 block. I can only recommend Oem F23 headgasket and not try any other. This is base on my experienced and always watch those copper rivets that hold the gasket together.
I think Cometic dont make 1 for f23.
WHAT WIRING HARNESS AND ECU DO YOU USE?
96 automatic engine harness w/ p28
How much HP can this combo make? With aftermarket parts? Can an all motor reach 400-450hp? Thank you.
It's a good engine and put out some good result. Specially good amount of torque. You can make over 500hp on motor that has a lot of support mods. I know a friend that has over 600hp.
I only have a valve springs, piston n' rods upgraded and made a good results.
What wiring harness can you use? Is there a rywire option
Car use to be automatic and l used the existing harness. I connect a Prelude obd1 alternator connector but you can use ypur civic alternator and no need to change connector but you need to change the belt pulley to match f23 crank pulley.
Yes, any aftermarkey wiring can be use. Even the ebay wiring can be use. On mine, l use a obd2a to obd1 ecu conversion harness.
Can I used gasket h22a if I used piston 87mm?
No, coz the f23 block are missing 2 oil drain port at the timing belt side. Unless you use h22a4 block (98-2k, 55mm) and f23 internals. You can go that route. Just remove the oil squirters and plug the port
they are compatible the F series block with the H series head like a f20z1 block with a h22 head
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I'm not too sure if it can be couple together like the usdm F22 and F23 series block. I googled searched it and f20z1 has 85mmx88mm. I think your best bet will be to check out F20B cyl head and it's basically same head like H22 except H22 has bigger valves. Headgasket are the key, make sure to try out the head gasket (youll use the f20z1 headgasket) on either cyl head you have and start from there. Pay attention on the thin side space of the gasket at oil drain port and copper seal. I think this will give you a idea if it's possible. Thanks mate.
men i apreceated all ur info thanks for anwser my question here is the plan i have a 1998 honda accord that i trying to make a jtcc jaccs replica it came stock with a 2liter no vtec and im triyng to swap head toa vtecsohc o dohc head beocuse the block and all the components are in a pretty goood condition the car have 28843km ,if u have some idea or suggest. i love ur videos man keep going@@sagittnet2158
What flywheel bolts do you use? H or B bolts?
B series flywheel bolts
Hey big question if anyone can plz answer me this why the H22A4 cylinder head VTEC worth more than the block? I noticed people be slapping on H seri heads on basically everything
I think it's because of the block has a FRM sleeve not the iron sleeve that everyone after. With iron sleeve, your pistons selection are endless for boost. In my opinion.
Hello hows it going i am using f23a5 block with h22a4 head On the head gasket would i used from the block and does it matter which one or not?
Use f23 oem headgasket only(highly recommend). Pls make sure you have the 2 oil drain plug and seal really good.
Check and remove the copper that hold the gasket sheet together if it's on the way of the 2 mating surfaces.
@@sagittnet2158 alrighty thank you and yes i am using the same rubber plugs as you
Lol yeah its understandable why this combination exist however the stroke of this motor added too 8k+ rpm is hell on piston and cylinder walls, unless long-term durability and reliability isnt a concern, if this is a requirement h23 crank probably be a better choice for high revving as the f23 is more of a torque monster than anything else, but probably still cheaper either route than a k swap 😉
It is way cheaper than k series build and never let this engine rev past 7k, coz its not making any power past 7k.
I bought it ARP studs there is one longer than the other ones. I don’t remember the long one where goes please if you can help me let me know.
I don't remember 1 of the stud is longer. Did you get a Arp studs for H22? There is one spot where one stud is sunk further down than others and its located on the middle by the intake side. I have a video where l compare all of the studs when its all tighten down. I'll check if l can see it.
Your headstuds are not for H22. You can see it on that episode, got it all laid out and all even. It's best to use the correct lenght to prevent any mishap that will occur in the future.
Thank you I’m making G 23 they are P studs that I am using is 208-4307 I can use multiple f22 to h23 and h22
@@grandazzo6634 that p/n headstuds might not have the correct length but if you can search or have a H22 headbolts actual length and compare to yours, that'll be excellent.
@@grandazzo6634 I'd just checked my parts bin and I compared the F23a OE headbolts on my H headbolts. H22 are longer, your studs are for F22, F23, H23a1 but it will not work for H22, H23a, F20b cyl head w/ F23, F22 block. Sorry to say but its best to get H22 headstuds arp 208-4304
Wouldn’t it be a better option to run an h22 head gasket?
I only use F23 OE headgasket and never had a failure except for using a Felpro( failed, oil leak). I guess if your f23 block is bore to 87mm it'll work. Some people have used H22 headgasket but not sure if they never experience any leak.
@@sagittnet2158 I’m currently making a g23 I’m welding the block instead of the head(f23 blocks are cheaper than h heads). Just trying to figure out logistics for this to see how reliable it actually is
@@spicychum9936 you dont really need to weld the oil drain galley. I never have a issue of oil leaking by using a water plug and applied a honda bond on the head. For the block, just use only Honda OE F23 headgasket.
Oi cara ,posso colocar Head H22 em block F18B2?
I dont think is possible not unless the headbolt patern and at least 4 oil drain galley are align. The only way to find out is to get a F18b2 headgasket and line it up to F20b or H22 cyl head or headgasket.
@@sagittnet2158 thanks for the information 👍