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- I have a lot to say about the 2025 Toyota 4Runner
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speaking for myself, it looks better than the new Tacoma
Each one since the tundra has been improving. Tundra is ugly but all the rest of the new toyota trucks is awesome
@@BagelMedia im not a fan of the new Tacoma cause like the TUndra, its a bit overstyled to my liking, but it somehow works in SUV form here with the 4runner and the sequoia
2024 taco bumper looks sexier than this double mustache bumper lol
@@BagelMediaI think it’s because the Tundra’s grill literally goes into the bumper and therefore looks way too big. For the other new models they split up the grill and the aggressive bumpers, and it looks way cleaner.
@@RSTBKTTacoma is more handsome in the front it looks like they put two grills on top of each other on this 4Runner weird
It’s really hard to redesign an iconic car and to be fair I was a bit nervous that Toyota might screw the design, I think they outdone themselves 🎉
Outdone themselves with a stressed i4 🤣 uh huh I’m sure
@@phantombread3170 Fuel efficiency matters, sadly.
@@mottom2657 it wont be THAT much better I dont think. This i-force thing really turns me off. I was really looking forward to the 6th Gen. It looks great. Hybrids are too heavy and eat away cargo capacity/towing weight so its hard to replace my truck with this with the base engine.
I've been looking forward to this 6th gen to replace my old GX, and while I do love the looks, not having the turbo V-6 as an option kills it for me. Toyota/Lexus 4 cylinders are thrashy and crude.
Best looking 4Runner since gen 3.
what i was i thinking, it's a modernized 3rd gen
3RD GEN, BEST GEN. 3RD GEN BEST GEN. 3RD GEN, BEST GEN.
“How much would you sell your 3rd gen 4 runner for?”
“Well …. enough for me to buy another 3RD GEN, BEST GEN. 3RD GEN, BEST GEN”.
This is a great design. I never looked at last generation because of the overbite and dash to axle ration being off. This one fixes 99% of that. Looks great. I would buy it.
there are so many tacky add on’s…it feels like Pep Boys had a fire sale and Toyota bought everything!
Great video!!
That’s why we’re waiting for sr5
They did a really good job with it but its about what i was expecting. This was absolutely needed and these will sell like hotcakes despite what the 4Runner cultists say. I think the sweet spot for most people will be the TRD Off Road... Thats what i have my eyes on
I also think the TRD Offroad is the sweet spot, as it currently is. I'd prefer the hybrid model too (which is available in the TRD Offroad). That added 150 lb ft should feel great, and likely with better fuel economy.
I thought the “4Runner cultists” liked the new one?
@@KJVirander There are two camps. One is excited for the updated powertrains and tech. The other camp likes the proven simplicity of the NA V6. Slow development of proven technology has traditionally been the Toyota way. It's a big part of how they've earned their reputation for reliability.
Fans seemed a lot more vocal about their concerns with the J250 and Tacoma, but that's largely just because they were announced sooner and this is the same exact situation.
I think the new design looks a lot better than the previous gen. The thing that I'm most happy about is that - unlike on the RAV4 - Toyota's designers didn't make the edges of the top grill droop down to give it a frowny-face design. That alone is a huge win in my book.
Plus, I think the new taillights look good and do pull in a horizontal direction. In particular, the housing for the reverse lights perfectly matches the horizontal elements and is in the same line/size as the Toyota handle in the middle. I like it!
Your evaluation is perfect!
It looks a bit better than the 5th gen I think but not that much. I hate the black wheel fenders it's like a 4runner suburaru lookin thing.
Reminds me of a Dodge Durango with that long hood. Kevin Hunter the designer is really into over stylizing. Not a fan.
I like everything about it except the taillights. I really hope the rear end looks better in person.
Really super review on the new 4Runner. Appreciate ya
Is a good looking truck, part of the value is that de model don’t change every 4 years, I hope they don’t change it to much for the next 15 years
Time to start saving up for it lol
The 4Runner has never had a Platinum trim and it wasn't on display at the reveal. (Interesting that they aren't using the Capstone name instead, like in the Tundra and Sequoia).
It'll be interesting to see where it and the Crown Insignia fall in the price range.
A lot of it has to do with pricing, marketing, and positioning. I work at a Toyota dealer and I've seen it all, and it makes sense why they're doing what they're doing.
Tundra/Sequoia are the top dogs. They're the largest, most expensive, and greatly capable vehicle Toyota has to offer. Having up to Capstone positions them at the top of their price chain and market. They can compete with the competition that way.
Then you get into Tacoma/4RUNNER territory. They're the midsize and decently affordable vehicles - in which are still extremely capable.
Then we also have to factor in the Land Cruiser - which has the exact same dimensions as the new 4RUNNER except for the height, sitting 6 inches taller than the 4RUNNER.
I'm 90% certain that if Land Cruiser retired, the new 4RUNNER would've had a Capstone grade. However, I highly believe Land Cruiser is essentially the 4RUNNER - but in Capstone grade. It's the more luxurious and equally capable sibling. There's absolutely no difference between the two except the luxury factor.
We also have to consider that Tacoma in Limited grade already beats the competition, so there'd be no need for a Platinum nor a Capstone. If you look at pricing for all of these they all slot in before the major perk higb once.
Great video, thanks
Looks great, but it probably cost at least 10 grand more and a 4cl
Interior is like G-Shock design. Very nice.
Toyota way over engineered the 4 cyl turbo and really beefed it up for all the trucks. They are using this engine in everything. I think they know what they are doing and it will be very reliable.
I love it, the exterior is like a modernized 3rd gen
Wise choice in keeping the roll down rear window. A feature really no one else does
Nothing will beat the 1st Gen 2 door, manual, removable top. If I hit the lottery I will pay anything for one of those. But this is definitely cool and it's on my short list with the Land Cruiser.
On the 5th gen limited my biggest complaint was 3rd row air conditioning outlets, none available.
i watched many 6th gen reviews so far and i don't see them being added, here in Florida we need more air conditioning for the 3rd row seating.
This is all nice and all. I started looking at forerunners about six months ago because of the underhanded antics of jeep and bronco dealerships. I found Toyota was doing the same thing with the TRD premium, and pro. I will go look at them when they hit the dealerships, but I have no illusion that I’m going to be buying one until about maybe late 25 or 26. Or maybe not at all. I want one, but I’m not paying markup and I’m not paying MSRP. I did find out today that Norman Chevrolet here in Houston never did markups during the pandemic or the last four years. I think I’m going to go look at a Colorado this weekend. I’m not a big Chevrolet person and never never have been, but it doesn’t say sucker on my forehead either
I love Toyota's simplicity, and durability. like the Kei trucks with dump bed, way better than other brands.
Did they stick with a solid rear axle with coil springs and control arms, or did they go 4 wheel independent suspension?
Solid rear.
The rear taillights give me G87 2-series/M2 vibes. Which, needless to say, is not a good thing. Would have preferred a more square taillight or a more typical horizontal lightbar style. Overall the front end is nice, which was expected as the Tacoma looked great. I think it is a step backwards compared to the new Tacoma though. The double mustache just looks a bit weird.
When will the 5th gen be discontinued? Hopefully next year?
I don't like that they made it wider without more travel - we all know it's not gonna have more travel. I'll think about getting one when someone gets over 400k on a turbo. Loving my 4.0 5th gen and 4.0 2nd gen till the turbos get some mileage.
Design looks good. Too soon to tell how this powertrain will be but Toyota has a lot of eggs in their basket with this powertrain also being on Tacoma. Hopefully it's good. Probably more maintenance sensitive so change your oil. Big question still is price. A 2024 Tacoma I-force TRD off-road Premium package is $53k so add maybe $5k to $8k more for this....maybe. So is it worth possibly $10k more than the last generation?
Yes.
This is the type of modern take on the rugged SUV that I've been waiting for a brand to deliver. The Telluride X-Pro, Pathfinder Rock Creek, and Pilot Trailsport just fall short, and the Wrangler and Bronco just are too traditionally boxy. This new 4Runner is a great looking SUV, but I'm not sure I'm sold on the interior.
It seems like im alone in this thought but i, at least currently, don't really like the soft windshield to roof line. 4 runners have always had a sharp edge there and when i saw it, it just seemed off.
Its probably for aero efficiency but from an asthetics perspective, i'd prefer it to be sharper and less raked because that line adds a lot of low down visual mass that isn't as evened out accross the vehicle in the front.
Man, I’d love a TRD Off Rd on one these, Toyota did a solid job
More i look at it more i like it. Already on waiting list.
Tank just got luxury bells and whistles ❤
If you look at it as a revamped 4th gen, it looks like a great evolution
It looks aggressive and beautiful! 😂🔥🔥🔥
So, it seems like the new 4Runner has a 900 lb cargo capacity (per a picture someone took of the specs listed on the door), whereas the old one (and the new Land Cruiser) has about 1700 pounds. WHAT is that about? So the new one can carry four people and a tank of gas, only? Can someone clarify this??!!
The 6th gen looks like a beefier modern 5th gen. With mods the 5th gen fanboys are gonna hate even more. 😂
I like the vehicle. But I think practicality wise the current gen is better. The second row door and second row in general is a lot more spacious than the new one. I think the current gen is always going to be a timeless vehicle which is why toyota had kept it for so long. Personally not a big fan of the third row window curving up towards the roof like the 1st gen. Do wish they had a v6 engine option but I understand the whole emission standard that car makers try to follow or beat. Not a fan or it being turbo charged. 7.8/10 for me. Not bad. I'm sure it'll grow on me as time passes
I just miss the v6 that’s all
Then get a used one, they’re not all incinerated
I am with you with front grille double stack hate it
Looks like a modern 70’s station wagon!
With so little difference in price, I'd rather take the LandCruiser. With all the price hikes, Toyota offroad models are overlapping so much that they are competing against each other. Not sure if that's good or bad
The 4Runner top trim should be around $60k, while a barebones Land Cruiser 1958 is $57k
isnt it like 20 k dif usd lol
I don't like the protruding lower front bumper.
I'd buy or build a replacement with a winch, tow hooks and light bar.
You kept saying the outgoing model is outdated. Well duh. It’s been around for a decade or more. But the vehicles charm is its simplicity mechanically and timeless design. New school has a lot to prove. The power train is the antithesis of the outgoing model complexity wise. I feel they are trying to target much younger audience that prioritizes tech and features over simplicity and dare I say reliability.
Old one is good, especially in that orange colour. This one is just cooler.
Its a Tocama in the front half and land cruiser in the back half with a roll down rear window.
I love it, but still slightly prefer the 5th gen TRD front end. Just looks tougher to me. Can't wait to see the front end refresh in 2030 lol.
I still drive my 2012 Tacoma and it's the best looking front end Toyota has made on a truck imho.
I agree with you. That last gen Tacoma will be a legendary model for a long time
@teejayman215 Yeah man, I like the lines on the sides & back of the 3rd gen, but the front end got a little "heavy"for the rest of it, feels out of balance.
It looks great
It’s looks really nice
I personally love the new design, definitely an improvement over the Tacoma and honestly better looking than the previous generation 4Runner.
I like the updates but they should have went with a unibody design so It doesn't handle like a boat lol.
That's exciting
3 rows should be standard. Hope it's still built in Japan
New 4Runner looks like a mini Sequoia
The old one maybe looked a bit more muscular but the new one looks great none the less
Only complaint is Toyota missed a chance to do a full rear light bar to make it future retro.
That’s for Lexus
@@wjoseph-rx9mj nah the tail lights were a miss on this, everything else was good. So they missed an opportunity to integrate a retro theme that would make it more desirable.
i love it
You are right, the double moustache anoy me
No Driver Side Grab Handle ?????????????????????????? WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First 4Runnner without amber turn signals on the rear.........there red. Glad to see the return of the locking gas cap door.
I like a lot of the upgrades to this generation. But for how big and bold the features look, the small headlight, and taillights especially, look so dinky. They look like they’d fit better on a fiat than a 4Runner. I’m immediately winding what aftermarket parts would look like with such small real estate to work with.
I don’t think you are going to a substantial Increase on gas mileage. I like the design of the front and back. The zonks are the tablet tacked on the dashboard
I get 18 mpg hwy on a good day in my 2022 ORP. The 2025 off road says 24 mpg hwy.
Then the sr5 will be great for u then
It looks badass, sadly this is an expensive vehicle that’s almost getting out of budget range for a lot of people.
Might end up being more expensive than a Rivian R2
The tires are 32.6 inches not 33 I wish all the reviews would get that right. It would need to be a 275 70 18 to be 33 inches. Math people, it's a thing.
front reminds me to a RAM
Only if it had a the H-motor 😂😂😂
A lot of pros. Don't care for the tablet look for the infotainment system. Companies need to embed it in the dash. Tail lights are also meh.
I do like it a lot
My 2015 LTD is approaching 200k miles. The new gen gives me no reason to not take it to 300k
It’s growing on me but I still think it looks frumpy compared to the 5th gen
8:01 i agree with you, that's the only thing i don't like about it
It looks alright, but with no flat cargo floor or manual transmission I’m out.
Looks like a 4 Door Isuzu VehiCross.
The double decker front face is not my liking. If it is just one arch with a horizontal bar would be much prettier.
What would you buy instead?
and if you go with the hybrid you will have almost no payload capacity left. hybrid is terrible for "overlanding"
If this next gen is as successful as the current gen, we might not see another remodel until 2040. 😂
Toyota USA is doing what needs to be done, not sure about global Toyota
I agree about the diagonal line to the back tire…and the diagonal panel gap to the rear light. It creates an awkward uplift to the back quarter of the 4Runner.
Rear doors way too small , not enough leg room in the back seats , windshield glass too angled …looks like a 2000 Isuzu vehicross with 4 doors !
No grab handle driver side and red turn signals .
It’s too much of a taco for me…keeping my 2024 v6 limited
To add the final nail in the new 4Runner’s coffin they should move the production to Mexico😂
Thanks for the video
I had the opposite reaction to the interior. I think the new one is clunky and dated looking.
The engine looks like they tried to stuff several of Clark Griswold's light string balls from Christmas Vacation in there.
Ya, the double frown up front is lazy design and the rear turn signals are bad. That thin ring that goes around inside the red lamp is the turn signal. It has two flashing leds for the turn signal. Both red not amber. Kevin Hunter President of design dropped the ball. He should have wrapped the rectangle AMBER bar around the sides.
I am also not a fan of that double mustache. Idk why Toyota keeps that in their design. The Tundra has it too. They need to get rid of that hulk hogan mustache on the lower.
trail hunter 👍
Nice looking but still…turbo 4 cylinder.
It's barely discernable from the outgoing model.
So now we have 3 different vehicles that basically look exactly the same on the inside, and now cost 20 to 30 percent more? Awesome… no thanks…
toyota becoming a luxury car brand in disguise. for the rich who want to feel that this 60-80k suv is an "economical" purchase. I miss the economy brand toyota used to be.
4th gen best gen still
Back doors look really small
A designer's response to your comments:
(I was never a fan of the big bulldozer front-end of the previous gen, kind of a sewer filtration look.)
The info screen sticks up. Would prefer it integrated into to the center stack.
The side-view comparo points out how much more detailed the new one is - it's too much in some respects, typical Toyota.
Yeah, yeah, everyone loves the rear side window - big deal. I'd prefer the simpler lines of the previous gen.
The extra creases above the fender flares are pointless detail (typical Toyota).
Like you, I also dislike the 45 degree line behind the rear wheels; they should have related that area to the sharp door crease somehow.
The taillights are way too complex inside, shapes, lines, colors - too much (typical Toyota).
The rear plate visor looks like the cheap plastic it is and the exterior window buttons look they came off a blender.
I don't want no "chamfers." Flush and smooth; again, SIMPLER! Toy just ain't ever simple (except, shockingly, the new Prius).
That "desert color" would be much cooler as a solid - no metallic flakes at all.
There are plenty of bad Toyota interiors. The Supra is flat boring, not sporty, could be in a Corolla, for example.
This new 4R interior is very complicated. Again, Toyota just doesn't know when to put the pen down.
The design problem with most steering wheels is the hub is not the same shape as the rim. It's usually a big plastic cowpie, and this is no different. Imagine a more metallic, industrial looking hub, more like the drive-mode dial.
Overall, you don't seem to value simplicity. Good design is not littering a shape with arbitrary detail. Toyota and most of the Asian makers are big offenders in this respect. Land Rover and Jaguar are probably the cleanest, nicest designs today.
TF are you talking about clown? wdym Toyota just ain't ever simple? For decades during the 2000s and 2010s they were ridiculed for boring, simplistic, and bland designs. Now ever since Toyota CEO said no more boring cars, they've gone bold with their exterior designs that will still divide many.
Superfluous design language 😮
And I couldn’t agree more with your analysis
Big bro Rav4
I like the front design. Not so sure about the rear
IMO interior is generally OK, except for the center console area, too busy, kinda cluttered.
Exterior; acceptable, I guess. but the front is way too busy, overstyled
it Looks kinda like these faces : 😒😒😒🙁☹️☹️☹️
☹️☹️😩😫☹️😫😱😓😨
The engine swap is a deal killer. Reliability is way too risky with this v4.
V4 ? U fuging id!0t
I really wouldn't call interior beautiful I'd call it functional but not beautiful. Overall I thinks they did a wonderful job with this evolutionalthis evolutionary redesign.
Mmmm
I don't like the tail light, and grill, it remind me the tacoma. I just gonna wait a couple years until they upgrade the grill
Wish the new taillights had yellow turn signals.