Hey good video. Question- when your volleying up at the net do you use an eastern or a continental grip? Or do you switch for a forehand and the backhand?
is it possible to get the same deception and effectiveness of the kyle by using a continental grip backhand to flick it straight instead of crosscourt?
I attended a Tyson McGuffin PB camp. The Shake & Bake they taught/drilled had the 3rd shot return drive going straight ahead, not cross court. My partner drives straight ahead, I race to the mid-court line for a pop-up put-away while my opponent feels me racing in, creating pressure, with my partner entering the transition zone for added pressure.
I've heard a number of pros recommend hitting the third shot drive in the middle or to the player in front of the third shot driver because then the ball is in front of the poacher, with little chance the fourth will be hit behind the poacher. I've used this method and it seems to work pretty well.
The "Kyle" seems overly complicated to me. (Then again, I'm new to pickleball so I may not have understood it properly) Here's what I'm wondering about: Why not simply keep the backhand grip and dip the paddle head back at the last instant before making contact with the ball, thus sending it straight rather than cross-court? Sounds like a much shorter and faster movement than having to completely change the paddle orientation 180 degrees and hit a forehand on the complete opposite side of your body. Flipping the paddle to a forehand shot in that far out a position is also a clear indicator that the shot will most likely go straight, whereas by keeping a backhand presentation, you can even slice under the ball with a movement that is going in the cross-court direction (selling the cross-court shot even more) while the ball spins in the opposite direction and lands straight with an outside moving spin. You could also speed up the play and add topspin to it, or punch it to the body, or whatever else you'd want to do. Heck you could move your arm in the cross-court direction, but instead of contacting the ball right away, you'd let your paddle move a bit past the ball while tilting it back slightly and punch the ball straight instead (similar to my initial idea, but adding more misdirection into it). The possibilities seem endless with the backhand presentation compared to having to make that 180 degree flip of the paddle before hitting the shot. Does any of this make any sense? Can anybody with experience comment on that?
You guys are great. Just to let you know though, you misspelled "until" on your text slide-in graphic at 1:42 and "scenario" at 1:52 and 2:23 and 2:57.
I actually disagree with some of the phrasing you use around "using your wrist". It's more accurate to say you should "loosen/relax your wrist" (instead of fixing it in place) for most shots (except maybe the overhead). You're not generating power with your wrist. You're using your wrist as the last piece of the whip for power you are generating from your legs/core through your arm by creating wrist lag. For the kitchen shots you can use your wrist to redirect a shot but that's very different from using it for power generation. Big misconception in tennis that can lead to injury if people start trying to generate power with their wrists
Tanks! Great video
Yeah, I was curious about it too.
Love you guys! Thanks!
So much useful info. Have to watch more than one and take note to capture all the great tips/techniques. Awesome instructions 🎉
Great content...how can I force my rec-play partners to watch it?
Send it to them and tell them they should watch? 😂
Great video!
Great advice as always!
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Hey good video. Question- when your volleying up at the net do you use an eastern or a continental grip? Or do you switch for a forehand and the backhand?
Anyone else can't help but wonder about the tank in the background?
is it possible to get the same deception and effectiveness of the kyle by using a continental grip backhand to flick it straight instead of crosscourt?
I attended a Tyson McGuffin PB camp. The Shake & Bake they taught/drilled had the 3rd shot return drive going straight ahead, not cross court. My partner drives straight ahead, I race to the mid-court line for a pop-up put-away while my opponent feels me racing in, creating pressure, with my partner entering the transition zone for added pressure.
I've heard a number of pros recommend hitting the third shot drive in the middle or to the player in front of the third shot driver because then the ball is in front of the poacher, with little chance the fourth will be hit behind the poacher. I've used this method and it seems to work pretty well.
Where are this courts at? Please tell me somewhere in Rochester mn!! Gorgeous empty courts great for drilling!!
The windscreens were installed upside down!
Yo wait... Ik this guy, that's the rocket League TH-cam striped lol. I guess we have similar hobbies. Good stuff man! Fire content on both channels.
The "Kyle" seems overly complicated to me. (Then again, I'm new to pickleball so I may not have understood it properly)
Here's what I'm wondering about:
Why not simply keep the backhand grip and dip the paddle head back at the last instant before making contact with the ball, thus sending it straight rather than cross-court?
Sounds like a much shorter and faster movement than having to completely change the paddle orientation 180 degrees and hit a forehand on the complete opposite side of your body.
Flipping the paddle to a forehand shot in that far out a position is also a clear indicator that the shot will most likely go straight, whereas by keeping a backhand presentation, you can even slice under the ball with a movement that is going in the cross-court direction (selling the cross-court shot even more) while the ball spins in the opposite direction and lands straight with an outside moving spin.
You could also speed up the play and add topspin to it, or punch it to the body, or whatever else you'd want to do. Heck you could move your arm in the cross-court direction, but instead of contacting the ball right away, you'd let your paddle move a bit past the ball while tilting it back slightly and punch the ball straight instead (similar to my initial idea, but adding more misdirection into it). The possibilities seem endless with the backhand presentation compared to having to make that 180 degree flip of the paddle before hitting the shot.
Does any of this make any sense?
Can anybody with experience comment on that?
Just noticed the tank in the background
You guys are great. Just to let you know though, you misspelled "until" on your text slide-in graphic at 1:42 and "scenario" at 1:52 and 2:23 and 2:57.
I actually disagree with some of the phrasing you use around "using your wrist". It's more accurate to say you should "loosen/relax your wrist" (instead of fixing it in place) for most shots (except maybe the overhead). You're not generating power with your wrist. You're using your wrist as the last piece of the whip for power you are generating from your legs/core through your arm by creating wrist lag.
For the kitchen shots you can use your wrist to redirect a shot but that's very different from using it for power generation.
Big misconception in tennis that can lead to injury if people start trying to generate power with their wrists
I'm so
Scenario!
I watched it, and I liked it :) ;)
Wait why is there a tank in the back?
That's to counter bangers 😂
GOWER!!!
Why not?
So cool!
Next video- how to hit a banger shot with a tank!!
Great tips! But the weird music really distracts from what you're saying.
*scenario
A tank ??
Middle finger for return middle.