Looks pretty neat but it sounds like the programming is locked to the installer - I bet it’s not very complex and should be open to anyone to install and manage - including the end consumer.adding a new scene or switch etc. Also don’t want the installer having access after the fact.
Ra2 select can all be setup entirely through the app. A homeowner can do the entire setup themselves. Ra2 (which is a different system and I think is being discontinued and changed to Ra3) is installer only. You have to take the training course and get access to the pc software.
There's certainly advatges to that, in fairness the batteries in these switches last about ten years and are just standard watch-type cells which are cheap and easily acquired. 👍
Why. Another overpriced pile of junk that will cost a fortune to get replaced or repaired when it goes wrong , and it will , most people won’t be able to afford to have this junk installed, it is simply aimed at the rich and famous who have more money than since . My phone is for talking to people not turning my lights on and off, if I want to turn my lights on or off I will get up of my backside and walk over to the switch, not my phone.eFixx please for the love of humanity stop showcasing this junk. In the last video yes I can see the appeal but this one is just way too much.
I've got some installed in my house and it works like a charm to be fair. It's not the cheapest but it just works. Smart and wireless controls are simply a part of the industry now matey, we can't ignore it. So shield your eyes cos there's more on the way! 😬
I see what you're saying Sean but this is the way the industry is heading. Not having a switch wire ran in concerns me. All the additional equipment that's installed where there's potential for failure, redundancy of parts, software no longer being supported etc concerns me. I'm probably a bit old school like yourself but I think it's something every electrician will need some experience of before long.
Everything I don't like ... plasticky, wireless, proprietary system dropped in a few years for their new one, redudant with existing standard DALI, etc.
How long will the system be supported for? Google buys the product, discontinues it, happened before. Sonos ends support for the product - happened before. Alternatively a new company comes in, switches to a subscription model for all the cloud features. If you have "tech" in your home, what is the average age of it? Bet less than 10 years old.
Just fitted out our kitchen at home so decided to give this system a go my self before recommending to customers... and must say the RA2 system is is absolutely excellent, really pleased with it and had zero issues with it so far!
@@efixx what I like about it too is the price, I think it's pretty reasonable for what it is, had to use a mix of the inline dimmers and the 0-10v dimming modules too and they all work flawlessly, response times and such are really good too A system like this a few years back would have costed a fortune to install and setup
Ra2 select is good but it too basic. You can't control RGB bulbs or RGB led strip's easily. Lutron rep came over to my supplier and we had a demo. I asked quite a few questions and the answer was sorry can't so that. I've got smart lighting but it's not limited to just lighting and it's not lutron. If you want lutron, you need lutron homeworks. Lutron RA2 has some nice stuff and its easy for electricians to install but RA2 is just too basic. I have to say, I love the Pico's
Why is the switch in the first part of the video on the hinge side of the door instead of the handle side? You would think you would not have to walk around the door to turn lights on as you enter a room.
It's a double door so unless the switches were outside the kitchen there's not much choice. The architects don't always leave us much flexibility unfortunately.
@@m101ist there is a double door entry to the room. You can see there is no switch shown on other side of the door. If there is a switch there, it is behind the door. There was sufficient space between the edge of the open door and the window reveal to locate the switch in a more suitable location.
Great informative video! If I have all the Lutron wireless controllers wired to a central location along with the hub. What sort of range do the pico remotes have? Thanks in advance 👍
All good, but if as a customer I don't get full customisation options when I want it and for free, I let the installler keep his toys in a van and pick another brand, simple
Private company having access to control my new mansion, sounds like I could be held to ransom by the contactor and Lutron. All very BIG BROTHER, I can see a big market in the future to rip all the stuff out and give control back to the homeowner
It's all controllable by the end user post-installation, plus as with anything if a company starts acting in this way they'll soon get a bad reputation and start losing business.
I'm sure the switches have a estimated drain current for the battery to last for 10 years. But I'm not so optimistic about the 10-year battery shelf life. The little coin cells tend to rust in the presence of moisture (drying clothes on your radiator). It doesn't take much for a bit of dirt to bridge across the contacts and discharge them over time. I don't know if your average grandma or grandpa will remember to change the batteries in the light switch if they fail un expectedly or start leaking. Maybe putting a little packet of silica gel to keep everything dry behind the switch is a good idea. Also the quality of the coin cells seem to vary a lot. I don't know! Batteries always let me down at the worst possible time, think of your average fire alarm.
I’ve had a Rako system at home since 2011 which uses similar tech and batteries and haven’t had to change one battery or had any issues with batteries leaking. * Gordon
The acting was very real! My old drama teacher would be proud. 😂 Joking apart, it just adds a bit of texture to the video. Hope you enjoyed the rest of it. 😊
Not quite ready for a big Lutron install here's a smaller project 👉 th-cam.com/video/F7CwzVhH2_M/w-d-xo.html
Looks pretty neat but it sounds like the programming is locked to the installer - I bet it’s not very complex and should be open to anyone to install and manage - including the end consumer.adding a new scene or switch etc. Also don’t want the installer having access after the fact.
I believe you can program it as a user post-installation. 🤔
Ra2 select can all be setup entirely through the app. A homeowner can do the entire setup themselves.
Ra2 (which is a different system and I think is being discontinued and changed to Ra3) is installer only. You have to take the training course and get access to the pc software.
I like the kinetic switches, they generate their own power through the switch action, No battery needed.
There's certainly advatges to that, in fairness the batteries in these switches last about ten years and are just standard watch-type cells which are cheap and easily acquired. 👍
Great Video. I chuckled at just after 8:10 " you have to do the Lutron course to become an installed approver' 👍😆
£120 for just one of those inline dimmer packs? crazy.
Why. Another overpriced pile of junk that will cost a fortune to get replaced or repaired when it goes wrong , and it will , most people won’t be able to afford to have this junk installed, it is simply aimed at the rich and famous who have more money than since . My phone is for talking to people not turning my lights on and off, if I want to turn my lights on or off I will get up of my backside and walk over to the switch, not my phone.eFixx please for the love of humanity stop showcasing this junk. In the last video yes I can see the appeal but this one is just way too much.
I've got some installed in my house and it works like a charm to be fair. It's not the cheapest but it just works. Smart and wireless controls are simply a part of the industry now matey, we can't ignore it. So shield your eyes cos there's more on the way! 😬
It's not actually aimed at the rich and famous. Quite the opposite. Lutron Homeworks is. This is the "budget" version bit it's still quite expensive.
I see what you're saying Sean but this is the way the industry is heading. Not having a switch wire ran in concerns me. All the additional equipment that's installed where there's potential for failure, redundancy of parts, software no longer being supported etc concerns me. I'm probably a bit old school like yourself but I think it's something every electrician will need some experience of before long.
Very expensive bit of kit, it's not cost effective for every day homes.
Horses for courses, these were fairly high end spec properties. 👍
Everything I don't like ... plasticky, wireless, proprietary system dropped in a few years for their new one, redudant with existing standard DALI, etc.
How long will the system be supported for? Google buys the product, discontinues it, happened before. Sonos ends support for the product - happened before. Alternatively a new company comes in, switches to a subscription model for all the cloud features. If you have "tech" in your home, what is the average age of it? Bet less than 10 years old.
Lutron have been around since 1961 and support products for a long time.
That switch is behind the door .
Architects don't always leave us much choice. 😂
@@efixx tell me about it ,they have all the great ideas !
it's battery powered just put the switch on the door.. or carry it around with you, but seriously don't, that would be a bit crazy. 🤪
He's fixed switch wrong side of door opening.😱😱😱😱
Pet hate.
Switch should always be there as you open door, or have i missed something.
It's double door and there's no more convenient space on the other side really. The architects don't always leave us much choice do they?! 😂
Just fitted out our kitchen at home so decided to give this system a go my self before recommending to customers... and must say the RA2 system is is absolutely excellent, really pleased with it and had zero issues with it so far!
Yeah, I've got some in my house and it just works in fairness, some others I've tried have taken a few attempts to sort out.
@@efixx what I like about it too is the price, I think it's pretty reasonable for what it is, had to use a mix of the inline dimmers and the 0-10v dimming modules too and they all work flawlessly, response times and such are really good too
A system like this a few years back would have costed a fortune to install and setup
@@banditfet where did you get yours from?
Ra2 select is good but it too basic. You can't control RGB bulbs or RGB led strip's easily. Lutron rep came over to my supplier and we had a demo. I asked quite a few questions and the answer was sorry can't so that. I've got smart lighting but it's not limited to just lighting and it's not lutron. If you want lutron, you need lutron homeworks. Lutron RA2 has some nice stuff and its easy for electricians to install but RA2 is just too basic. I have to say, I love the Pico's
You can link the Picos to a Philips Hue Hub and then control Hue bulbs with different scenes changing the bulb colours.
@@hks-lion really? That's interesting. Lutron told me it uses its own frequency. Do you know if it works with HA?
Keep it QUINETIC 😂😂😂❤️💯
Why is the switch in the first part of the video on the hinge side of the door instead of the handle side? You would think you would not have to walk around the door to turn lights on as you enter a room.
There's probably is a switch on the open side of the door, a two or intermediate switch. 😳
It's a double door so unless the switches were outside the kitchen there's not much choice. The architects don't always leave us much flexibility unfortunately.
@@m101ist there is a double door entry to the room. You can see there is no switch shown on other side of the door. If there is a switch there, it is behind the door. There was sufficient space between the edge of the open door and the window reveal to locate the switch in a more suitable location.
Great informative video! If I have all the Lutron wireless controllers wired to a central location along with the hub. What sort of range do the pico remotes have? Thanks in advance 👍
It’s a shame Lutron is very £££ here in the UK when you compare the prices to the US for the same functionality (Lutron Caseta)
Is that 16mm CPC sleeving on a lighting circuit 😳
What's the timestamp on that?
I wonder what an "installed approver" is?😀 th-cam.com/video/2JjW__cJUtI/w-d-xo.html
No RGB bulbs were harmed in the filming of this video.
All good, but if as a customer I don't get full customisation options when I want it and for free, I let the installler keep his toys in a van and pick another brand, simple
The end user can customise it post-installation.
Any recommended shop to buy Lutron products?
I have many of the consumer grade, Lutron Caséta smart switches with Pico remotes. They're awesome!
We like them a lot. 👍
Private company having access to control my new mansion, sounds like I could be held to ransom by the contactor and Lutron. All very BIG BROTHER, I can see a big market in the future to rip all the stuff out and give control back to the homeowner
It's all controllable by the end user post-installation, plus as with anything if a company starts acting in this way they'll soon get a bad reputation and start losing business.
Nice video.
Thanks very much!
I'm sure the switches have a estimated drain current for the battery to last for 10 years. But I'm not so optimistic about the 10-year battery shelf life. The little coin cells tend to rust in the presence of moisture (drying clothes on your radiator). It doesn't take much for a bit of dirt to bridge across the contacts and discharge them over time. I don't know if your average grandma or grandpa will remember to change the batteries in the light switch if they fail un expectedly or start leaking. Maybe putting a little packet of silica gel to keep everything dry behind the switch is a good idea. Also the quality of the coin cells seem to vary a lot. I don't know! Batteries always let me down at the worst possible time, think of your average fire alarm.
I’ve had a Rako system at home since 2011 which uses similar tech and batteries and haven’t had to change one battery or had any issues with batteries leaking. * Gordon
Just drop that fake acting already. Informative videos, but why unnecessary show?
Because some people have short attention spans?
What?? Where?? (acting is "fake" by the way, no such thing as fake acting :) )
The acting was very real! My old drama teacher would be proud. 😂 Joking apart, it just adds a bit of texture to the video. Hope you enjoyed the rest of it. 😊