Fault Finding Nightmare! Electrician Life
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- Fault Finding Nightmare! Electrician Life.
Join Cory & John as they struggle to find the source of a difficult electrical fault! Will they get to the source of the problem or will they give up? Watch to the end to find out!
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All the best in your necks adventure Johnny.
I see what you did there. Sir, well played.
Thank you so much your video helped me find the fault...
Cory, every day a school day, I’ve been a electrical engineer for 20 years now but every day I learn something else. Absolutely spot on with your summary, anyone who thinks they know everything is in the wrong job!
No one is to old to learn, never be to proud to ask for advice
Presactly !
No one can have enough knowledge -
One can learn anything when one first learns that one must become 'Teachable'
and that mental shift is made -- Magic happens.
One thing that many UK people must learn is that GARAGE does not to be pronounced like Marriage.
It is to rhyme with BARRAGE - AS IN The heavy fire of artillery
Note that Garage is a French word - so be sure to pronounce it as the French do.
Learn from them - educate others who are ignorant of this.
Johnny no neck we will miss you, and the banter,you brought a new dynamic to the vids which kept them very entertaining hope all goes well in the new venture.
Guys, that was absolutely fascinating. As a non electrician watching your thought processes is really absorbing although much of it I don't quite understand.
You're a good lad Cory, well done for not being too proud to say "I done know, I'll ask someone who might be able to help me think it through " and for encouraging others to be the same. Shame to hear Johnny is moving on, love the banter and he gives and takes it so well! Good luck in your new venture John 👍😁
Well done, of course we are always learning even an "elderly" gentleman like me, 82 years young Excellent videos clear and precise. ☘️🇮🇪☘️
A little tip I learned when fault finding sockets.
If you use a plug in adapter, you can just plug into the socket and test. If it’s clear then you know you don’t need to take that socket off. Just saves a little time 👍🏼
Great work Cory. Shame Johnny got the call from Love Island. He’ll be back when filming is over.
Clever, patient, humble and willing to learn. Powerful combination in my book - bright future awaits. Well done Cory and team.
This is one of the reasons when I have my lads chase cable into walls we always use plastic conduit and I make sure above boards they pull bends. It's personal preference but not had any issues. Good choice on the TT and going above and beyond it's always the way to go should any alterations or a different Tub be fitted in future.
As for your experience and knowledge, you're younger than me and Jordan is older but we all have different experience and knowledge. Age doesn't have as big a factor as people would assume but knowing your limits and where to get the information you don't know is one of the most important skills any engineer can have and what you've shown today is a prime example of that. If anyone is ever out of their depth or wants a second opinion there is always the NICEIC etc, other engineers to call, heck I've even called my old college lecturers when I've had a fault.
Great video and really shows none of us are infallible.
Sorry to see John leave, Cody you are the man, your testing process is fantastic - enormous respect for your diligence in tracing the fault. 😃👍👌👌👌👏👏👏👏
Sad Johnny is leaving. Great addition to the channel. Hope to see him again. Best of luck
You lads are phenomenal- the calibre and quality of your work is top notch and it is refreshing to see people who genuinely love their craft and trade bringing that to the customer. Here in Australia most tradespeople (not all) are only interested in making a quick buck and have zero care or knowledge of their craft. This is especially true of sparkies. I am considered a ‘painful, needy customer’ just because I expect the quality of work to mirror what I would do myself. I know most customers are concerned with price and time- however there are some of us who are happy to pay for quality and comfort that the work is safe, tidy and not going to require rework for a long time. I wish your business continued success and growth. Branch out to Australia please!!!
Another great video! Sad to hear that Johnny is leaving - hope he makes a guest appearance sometime in the future! :)
Cory, I like many others also think you are an outstanding electrician. There's nothing wrong in admitting you don't know everything. Your skill level is very high and I am sure there are many companies out there waiting in the wings to offer you a full time position. However a word of warning, the grass is not always greener on the other side. You and all the others make an outstanding team. I'm sure Jordan will be back out doing more installs with you and really values what you do for Artisan Electrics. Always look forward to your banter..😊😊 Sorry John has moved on. 😢😢
One can only learn more when one admits to not knowing everything.
Life is not long enough to learn everything --
John has really gone off to make a TLC documentary, with Big Ed, on the life of no neck Chads. Good luck on your next adventures.
Guy's I'm not an electrician but always enjoy your video's and learn something. Love your persistence at fault finding and rectification. Cheers, Alex.
We love you Johnny. All the best!
Another fantastic video, great B roll footage too 👍 Sorry that John's off, will be missed but glad it's for a job that suits him. Agree with all the other comments about asking for help when you need it - definitely the best way to work. Very satisfying to see those cable issues, so good that the RCBOs were picking up a problem.
Loved the last bit of the video. Never be afraid to ask. If your spark tought you one important lesson that's it . Our trade is so vast no one knows everything
All the best Johnny! Was a pleasure mate 👍
Loved Cory's summing up at the end. Now that was a very good lesson in itself, to pause and seek a fresh viewpoint when something isn't making sense. Huge respect to you for that; you are very wise for a youngster :-)
So sorry about your loss of Johnny, but great for him !
Use Flukes Plug adapter and connect the Neutral and Earth leads to the r1 and r2 port on the back of the mft. It will then measure continuity between Neutral and Earth. Saves you having to take all the fronts off. You will see a gradual increase or decrease depending on whether you are closer or further from the fault. Helps to narrow it down when splitting the ring.
Great Job Cory and John sorry to see John go hope to see him again.
Thanks for all the info, my flat failed an EICR recently and so I passed all the options on to my Landlady. She opted to install a board with SPD and full AFDD/RCBO's :D I told her it was not required but she wanted the best.
That's the sort of landlady you want to keep happy.
@@billdoodson4232 Oh yeah.
Good luck Jonny, it was good to see you in the background and you seemed to work well with Cory.
@12:28 "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"... good job. So satisfying to come up with a theory and have it proven 100% correct!
Hahaha - 5 seconds after finding out the painter had fitted the bedroom sockets, the poor bloke was under the bus.
What a shame - loved to see John in the videos he seems like a smashing lad. Good luck
And it turns out it was Corys fault!
Dave savery is an electrical god!!!! And just so happens hes a comedy genius to boot
And he knows what he talking about, man of many talents.
Not having ring circuits in Canada, it's so interesting to learn about them. Definitely seems like it adds a fair amount of complexity to troubleshooting.
No last NOICEEEEE from Johnny :(((((
Good luck Jonny! Your a legend mate and will be missed
Dave is a legend... (although we all know that Nige is really the brains of the outfit)
Cannot believe John has moved on Jordan must be a tighty. Corey keep it up mate one of the best sparks I’ve come across by far. I said it before and I’ll say it again I’ll give you a job tomorrow morning if Jordan carries on being tight.
😵
Start your own channel Corey go solo!! Or ask to be a partner in the business!
People don’t just move jobs for money…
Continuity only tests upto 2000 ohms so it will test clear. 1.8 mega ohms on the insulation resistance test which is what you were getting is 1800000 omhs, well above what the Continuity test can measure.
Apparently the guy that owned control gear that lewden bought, started fusebox.
Another reason not to use metal capping, horrible stuff.
it's cheaper than plastic capping tho lol :)
@@TheChipmunk2008 is it, I hated using it, but on the rare occasion I did use it I always folded the edge over with grips or pliers, stops that issue, even with filing that could still happen.
Fault finding, tricky. Good methodical approach. No better feeling in the world than finding the “smoking gun”!
Very nice seeing someone step back and say I need to ask someone..
I can't be the only one here who isn't in the Electrics Industry in any way but still finds themselves watching every video?
In the office, watching more and more 😂
Nah, you're not the only one😅
Fantastic work mate, nothing more satisfying than getting up to your neck with a fault then absolutely nailing it.
Last minute of the video - you are absolutely right!
Love the way your not flustered with fault finding it can fry the brain at times !! great videos
Ive had a few sparks work for me over the years and i always get a shock comment when i pull out the R2 lead to trace back part of the circuit. "oh I've never seen it used for that" is common place.
This is why you always use a insulation resistance tester, some lazy sparkies out there just run with continuity tests.. good work Cory I always phone people with more experience
As a young apprentice in the 70's wiring new build housing we used metal capping and was always told to fold the ends over to prevent faults like this, also never understood why some sparks do not put grommets in metal back boxes-retro fitting grommets is a pain
Cory you are funny at times.
Ahhh fault finding the real test for a good spark. Problem solving at its best great for apprentices to see. Even if you know a lot you can have a brain freeze and miss the obvious as well, always great to bounce ideas off each other.
Halfway through he calls Dave Savo for advice, then at the end announces Johnnie's departure. I reckon Johnnie's off to work for Dave, Nigel's retiring
Had a similar problem in a neighbour's properly, they had a brand new kitchen too and I had to break a few tiles as the CU was on the other side of the wall in the garage and no access 😳😅 felt really bad, they only wanted a CU change lol
Nice fault finding mission best of luck to Johnny in the new job 👍
Had a call out here (spain) with a Danish customer who's lights were tripping out. Got to the house, new build villa, ceilings that were about 15ft hgh so couldn't access the lights with the usual laddders etc. House was a smarthome, big bank of plc's running everything. All crcuits labelled in spanish. Eventually narrowed it down to a valvula agua - a device used to shut off the water in the event of an undetected water leak. The valve was hidden away above a false ceiling.
That was a fun few hours on a Sunday afternoon.
That is a brilliant piece of detective work Cory, well done. You need to come to my house on the East coast, I have plenty of work for you, hopefully I can book you later in the year, all the best.
Thanks for another great video Cory. Davo Savo to the rescue. I wonder how many installations are out there with similar issues. The best of luck to Johny - we'll miss him.
Thanks
Good luck Jonny
I'm not a spark but did study electronics and was a tech for several years. I find these videos interesting because I knew why his short was showing on the insulation test but didn't show up on the continuity test. I also used the same half split method for fault finding. However I still appreciate the genius of this work. Good work!
You will never know it all,every job is different and the same with faults ,you learn something every day 👍
Very informative video on fault finding, and the dangers careless use of metal capping.
Great Video, really enjoyed watching you fault find the issue probably the best or one of the best videos from Artisan I have seen so far!!! Big fan of the channel keep up the great work.
Well done. Another puzzle solved , and another lesson learned. , nobody knows everything , and nobody ever stops learning …..
Mutlitooling the hatch above the consumer unit into and Artex Ceiling.
You need to be aware that a lot of artex up till around the 1980’s contained asbestos.
You need to allow for that when cutting into artexed surfaces as proper asbestos precautions are required you until and you less you have had the artex tested for asbestos and know it’s clear!
Enjoyed the video however good to see some serious fault finding going 👍
When you do the board change then the rcd trips....and your heart sinks haha....we've all been there
That's why we use rcbos
@@Woodkin007 even so.... Still have to find the fault.....
@@SmartpowerelectricalCoUk1 easier on an rcbo than a bank of six circuits. But yeah, you're right.
@@Woodkin007 If it's a dead short, you can narrow it down to one circuit rather quickly.
@@Ragnar8504 ha ha. Yes. You can bloody hear where those are.
Good work Cory… I always call more experienced people if needed! Keep up the work lads 🤙
Always nice to see professional people do the work. Well done, and nice video quality.
God luck John 😎
Damn, I’ve only just introduced my kids to Johnny No Neck. He and his lack of neckage will be missed!
Very wise words at the end there! Would have liked to have seen the wago connections as I have never used them. I am an ancient electrical engineer discovering new things every day 😎👍❤️
Good Luck Johnny!
What a great guy, definitely knows his stuff 👍
I had the same issue today with a short and wondered why it didn’t show up with continuity tests. Now I know! Thanks!
There are two reasons I think. One Corey mentioned in the video, the continuity test is done using a fairly low voltage. The other is that the measuring range in continuity mode is usually quite small, 20 Ohms on my tester, whereas IR goes up to 200 or 999 MΩ depending on the test voltage.
we will miss you john.
Aristotle famously wrote, "The more you know, the more you realize you don't know." and it's absolutely true.
Really great video, you are absolutely right about continual learning and every job is different somehow. I've been in commercial maintenance for 25 years and still learning so thanks 😊
So true Corey. I normally say if someone tells you they know it all then they are a liar and in fact know very little! Keep up the great work. Love these videos. 👍👌
Brilliant fault finding great work paid off with the insulation resistance test
quality job again, and a very wise summary to wrap up. I am glad you didn't call Andy at Photonicinduction for advice - Farewell Johnny ,all the best.
Yeah boi. Literally loaded up YT and this appeared.
Wow, that was a great 2 part vid. Had similar fault with cables hanging off edge of trunking above a db cupboard. On an offfice fitnout. Took an age but sussed no protection on edge of trunking cutting into cables. Well done job done ✅ .
Absouloutly brilliant. Thank you from John
No
No Way Johnny come back if only for the banter
Best of Luck, Johnny no neck!
Is filing the end of the capping the only solution, or is there some sort of capping grommet that could be fitted?
You can simply bend the ends over, I thought this was standard practice.
Another qualtiy video with good banter and some learning along the way :)
Are you sure u didn’t pull on them cables 😂😂😂
Tell me you didn't watch the full video without telling me you didn't watch the full video.
@@bp9854 im still watching 😂
Those cables have all been pulled too hard for the board install.(original)
Good bit of fault finding, how come you call David and not your boss.
Hope it all works out for ‘oddjob’ oh sorry no neck !
he must off pulled cables himself when he took board off in original video
When on the rare occasion I've used metal capping I've always bent the end slightly to stop the cable being chaffed.
Best way to use metal capping is to cut the sides at the top down an inch then bend the rest over like a flap,to stop the cables cutting in to the capping .
Best way is not to use metal capping full stop, hideous stuff and pretty pointless imo
Faultfinding is the best of being an electrician. But I do like that we here in Finland don't have rings and usually have one room has either a mixed sockets and light circuit or then one room has one fuse for sockets and the light circuit is split between a few rooms. So getting an fault you usually can pinpoint it to one room.
you guys got me saying “earthing” to sparks here in California. This has confused each and every one!
Don't forget household voltage is 230v in UK,
Wait, Artisan not fitting Hager Boards, is Jordan alright, is this a call for help? 😂
"FuseBox" must be making it financially attractive; I notice several YT electricians promoting this brand.
Yeah the cost difference between Hager full RCBO & Fusebox is a lot and I install both, there’s not a lot in difference to be honest
10:40 an IR meter stresses the insulation at 500v whereas your multimeter on continuity may out only mili or microvolts. Voltage is pressure and, just like water in a pipe, you need a lot of pressure to show up a leak.
I found on the flukes the bottom right hand corner it says the voltage, when i have no fault the voltage stays at 520 ish, if i have a fault the VDC will drop to something very low. So if i still read 2MOhm but the VDC drops below 100 i know i have an issue somewhere even if its very minor.
Great learning curve video, we will always learn something new, watching your videos helps me to improve and stand out in a good way. Glad you got that rod down below 20 ohms, cheaper than pen fault detection by a country mile.
Cory
Great closing comments on this video. Its always good to have a healthy dose of Humility and always ask questions when you dont know something.
The vlogs are getting the feeling of a long running soap with characters arriving and leaving. Good luck to John in his new venture . Get his address so you can sent him his best supporting character award for 2021. I hope he has got all his tools back.
Cory you are great at finding fault when faultfinding is really necessary.
Also excellent work on the no product product placement lately. That is in regards to the snack Dept.
Hoover behind the sockets mate hahahahah
As an American electrician, when you cut open that ceiling and showed how all these wires went through sharp edged metal channel, my first thought was "They have a really excellent plug and socket, but the stuff behind the wall is a nightmare!" It's the reverse of the American system where we have very safe wiring and breakers, but absolutely terrible plugs and sockets.
Had a weird one...someone had swapped netrual and earth in a junction box under floorboards...
Everthing worked lovely except on this one boiler spur on the ring....
Bit of head scratching then found the dam thing..lol
12.20 "Main fuse fell out" pmsl🤣
Had the consumer unit been changed and someone had tried to get more length on all the cables so yanked them all down? Looks that way to me as you wouldn’t be pulling cables through capping like you do with conduit or trunking. Should probably watch the full video before commenting
I’d watch the previous video where Cory changes the CU
Great video but don’t forget about asbestos risks, cutting artex ceiling with no checks or PPE 😬 look after your health guys.
Well done Cory. Love to watch your video.
Maintenance is the best part of being a spark I've had enough of installing