Line 6 HX Effects 4 Cable Method
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Great video, thanks you really sped me up on learning how to do this!
Clear message, clear structure, easy to understand, thank you
You're very welcome
Dude thank you. This is so helpful.
dude thanks a bunch just got an hx effects and was wondering how to do all this thank you sooooo much
Thank you...
Hey thanks for the explanation. I do have one question, can I use other pedals (like an OCD, etc) with the 4 cable method...do I just have to plug my guitar to it/them before the helix hx...and others like canyon delay after the hx going through the amps loop?
Hoping I explain well my self.
Yes you have the right idea.
Doctor McFarland Studios thanks, I finally figured out.
Did you have issue with tone suck in 4 cable method?
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I'm just wondering which four cable method you used? One that line 6 recommends or the traditional way of hooking to effects Loop. I like the way you explain things.
I'm just getting started with this.
Thanks Bryan
Bryan Prescott there is only one 4 cable method.
Awesome video bro. I played guitars all my life, and this is my first digital effect pedal, this sh!t is scary to me.
It is easy to use and setup. You will do just fine.
Thanks man, the manual and a lot of videos have not put it so clearly,
Oh, and oddly I have a Quilter Micro pro. Great minds think alike haha, (Im no great mind, but you are doing well)
Hello there! Thanks for such a detailed explanation on routing this device! Very helpful. There's only thing that makes me wonder, is there a difference in signal path whether a guitar cable goes straight through the amp input (when HX is connected only to the FX loop of the amp) or running through 4CM with no blocks turned on on the front of the amp (such as distortion, compressor etc)? I mean would this have an affect on a guitar tone in terms of sound quality? Like double digital signal processing and stuff
4 cable method should have no tone suck and sound great.
Great explanation and everything works for me just as you explained.
However, I have a question on how this block works. I set the block up on a footswitch thinking to use it turn all my loop fx off with it. However, the delays etc are still audible. I'm assuming that turning the loop block off will result in my delays etc being routed to the front of the amp instead of through its fx loop. Is this thinking correct??
If you are asking that question then maybe I didn’t explain it well enough. When you bypass the fx loop block you are sending your signal to the FX return of the amp and bypassing the preamp section resulting in a dull tone.
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios thanks for a speedy reply mate. I get it now. Great channel btw, only had my hxfx a couple of weeks and your videos have been enormously helpful. Great work.
Thanks dude
Any time
Hi ! I have a problem with my HX, the stomps AFTER my FXLOOP Block don't have any effect on my sound. Do you have an idea why ?
So you have the fx on but you can't hear them?
very good explanation , I bought HX , and then covid hit and I covered up everything with a sheet , with no gigs and having gotten so bummed about it ,I never use it for anything , everything was on hold ( as we all know) , I'm glad I found your video's thank you , I run stereo could you send an erect to a third amp? using auto swell on a third amp is really press cool , the 3rd amp doesn't have a fx loop so could I send the effect with no return ?
it may be possible to send to a third amp using the Send of one of the FX Loops. You might want to experiment with placement and parallel paths as I have not tried this myself but with all the questions I have gotten about the HX Effects lately I think I need to expand on this series to cover more topics and suggestions. Thanks for watching and hope you find new ways to be creative without playing out live.
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios Thanks , trying it is the only way to find out , I put down the elct.guitar years ago ,I play a three string dulcimer now , run it in stereo and a few delays and of course the octoverb ,-- I have been using that (with restrain) since it came out on the Echo park pedal , yes I go way back , I've never stopped , even when it was over .you should never just walk away from music. thanks for the return advice - & good luck - billy
i m using the 4cm and I d like use the send2 (adding an ir) with earphones for monitoring during live session... is it possible?
Yeah just split the signal path and that should work fine.
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios weak answer, i try to slit but no work... Is a 4cm with a mono send with ir of all the chain
I hope I explain this right. So now I'm using stomp boxes reverb/delay in my effects loop of my 6505+ for my leads and having to use my peavey footswitch to cut the fx loop on and off between leads. My question is if I buy the hx effects, will I still have to use my peavey footswitch to cut on and off between leads or can I do that with the hx effects?
You should be able to change channels on the amp and use the delay and reverb in the FX Loop of the amp via the 4 Cable Method. Then you can create presets and snapshots of the different sounds you need. Sounds like a perfect setup to me.
Hi Jamie! Hope I’m not too late but as far as I know it doesn’t work on a lot of Peaveys like 6505+ and a lot of EVH amps too for example. Reason for that is that these amps have proprietary footswitching. I encourage you to read up on it. Unfortunately it’s very tricky to get this work on the 6505 amps.
Will this give me control over my amp?
I've noticed when using 4 cable method, my amp controls have no effect at all
You have to have an fx loop block in the signal path.
I added an fx loop and lose control of the amps control too
Hi, i’m using the HX effects in 4cm. The only issue i am having is that the pre-amp section of my Orange dark terror amp gets excluded in bybass mode. This also happens when the HX effects is turned off. Any idea how to solve this?
What is bypass mode? You should have an FX Loop block in your signal chain to complete the 4CM setup. Do you have that in your signal path?
Doctor McFarland Studios thx for your quick response! yes i have. When you kick both switches on the right the signal should bypass the hx effects. Thats when i am only left with the poweramp. Same happens when i shut the power of the hx effects. I hope it makes any sense. European here...Other than that i can just use the 4cm perfectly fine
rumglas well when you bypass the HX you are also bypassing the FX Loop block and breaking the signal flow of the 4CM. I suggest you not bypass the HX but make a preset with all fx bypassed except for the FX Loop block.
Doctor McFarland Studios thanks! I’ll try that!
what if the effects after the block are sounding like theyre off, like no signal to them, and everything before the block is perfect??
check your cables going to the amp. You should be hearing everything just fine.
Problem with FX Loop position in the signal chain. In this video and elsewhere, all dynamics (compressors), filters (wah), pitch shifters, and Volume pedals, and Gain based effects (overdrive/distortion) go before (to the left) of the FX Loop; all modulation (chorus, flangers, phasers) and time based effects (delays and reverbs) go AFTER (to the right) of FX Loop.
What is happening for me with this standard 4CM is that nothing works unless it is BEFORE the FX Loop. I have seen others report this same problem eleswhere but no resolution.
I would check your cable routing. It’s a pretty easy setup when you have it right.
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU. Cable routing error is EXACTLY what it was. Have a good one -- JB
Your welcome
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios Hope you can take 1 more query. I know how to change between BANK, PRESET, and SNAPSHOT modes... I run in SNAPSHOT mode and use PRESET to jump from one song to the next. The problem now is that the bottom PRESET [arrow] down switch take me up (and the top PRESET [arrow] up switch takes me down. I don't see in global settings (or the net) were to correct this anomaly; I
want to switch the PRESET switch back.
So you didn’t actually show the cable run. Are plugging your guitar into the HX or into the Quilter?
Patrick Moore I’ve mentioned the cable setup in other videos. Guitar goes to input of first pedal ie HX. See if you can figure it out from there. :)
Hello, I connected Fender Hotrod with my HX Effect in 4 cable method and and I lost the ability to use volume on amp. It can't go higher or lower volume. The hx effects controls the volume…. Is there a setting that I need to change on the HX effect so that I can use the controls/volume on my Amp? Thanks for any assistance
Do you have an FX Loop block inserted in the signal path of the HX? Without that you are bypassing the preamp section of your amp and none of the controls will work.
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When I turn on the hx effects in 4 cable method immediately there is large amount of volume from guitar which I can't control by amp (also eq is not working). When I put block in the middle of the path(flow), one part of signal flow( left from block) is controled by amp(I can use volume pot) and other part not( immediately is again like when I turn on the hx effects)
@@reallygood7886 Check your cables. 1. guitar to input of HX 2. Send of HX to input of amp 3. Send of Amp to Return of HX 4. Output of HX to Return of amp.
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Cables are OK for sure. I have fender hotrod deluxe, can be problem that is originally different effect loop setup on amp?
Is is normal when I turn on hx effects in 4 cables method there's immediately sound from guitar that I can not control by amp?
I never heard about that on any TH-cam video
@@reallygood7886 with the FX Loop block inserted and all the cables plugged in correctly all the controls on the amp should work just as you had plugged your guitar directly into the amp. All amps with an Fx Loop work exactly the same.
Is the 4 cable method necessary or can you do without it?
If you want all your fx going to the front of the amp then you can do without. If you want to split your signal then you need the 4CM.
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios 4cm?
@@wlliamson53 4 cable method as I have described in the video.
@@DoctorMcFarlandStudios so i got a chorus and dekay in a preset. is 4 cable best foe it?
@@wlliamson53 If you have an amp that has an FX loop then 4 cable method will sound good. Give it a try and let me know what you think.
I can’t seem to get sound unless I use a block to send
Yes you need an fx loop block in the signal chain
Thanks so much for the reply! Do if you want to use the fx loop it needs to be a block that you use on the foot switch? No work around?
Tried it and it sucks. Massive hiss. I think it´s because of the pedals in front of the amp.
You will probably have to adjust the gain of the pedals. You won't need as much gain as you think you do.
That's the point of 4 cable method, overdrive goes into the front and modulation goes in the effects loop.
Man, those menus look like a total pain to navigate..
Nah it’s easy.