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I got confused here, in this video you tell us to get lucky hit chance on headpiece at 14:03, but on the FAQ video you posted there at 23:50 you say lucky hit has been nerfed to the ground and it doesn't matter anymore. So do we get lucky hit or no for afixes?
Great content. Your in depth explanations of WHY you are doing something are some of the best of the content creators I watch on TH-cam. Really appreciate your effort. I am low 90's and can now take the next few levels to try and save gear I will need to make this work - then on to farming for Shako, etc.. as per past seasons. The tempering and masterworking are really going to help make many builds step up to the next level, this one included. Thanks again for the great content.
I change the skill tree and complete paragon tree as per this guide and got the two hand staff. The difference with those changes was night and day when running the same pit (50) with same gear. I can’t wait to get the right tempers and min max
After playing the Maxroll version up to now and hitting a wall in Pits this build feels like getting rid of the shackles I was wearing during training. Keep up the good work!
I have been DYING for you to make this video!!! Thanks so much. I am commenting before I even watch the video, so I'm excited to see how you get single target DPS out of this build.
Great great great build guide. I was messing with this build last night and I was struggling, I appreciate the amount of explanation you put into all of if.
Great info. I just wanted to say I know this is end game focused but for newer players you very much can play frozen orb from the start. I’m running thru NM dungeons 15-20 levels above to get the higher item power and boss drop mats earlier. It will only get easier until 100. I don’t have the amulet yet either.
@@GoldfarmingGuide I'm not at home right now and can't check. Has this build been updated recently? I'm currently using the blizzard build but would like to try this one if I can get the necklace.
Thanks so much, can confirm that your build is superior to all the other Frozen Orb Builds out there. Clear Speed seems to take a slight hit, but the bosses stagger much much quicker and thus I am able to kill them more quickly. Nice. Let's see how much I can push. I still don't dare to tackle the uber bosses until I get more masterworking done.
I followed your build to the T but changed these stats and now im solo pit 110 so far. your priority should be crit damage, vulnerable damage, base damage as these are your base multipliers. then your other damage priorities are damage to frozen, damage with cold, damage vs crowd controlled. Super helpful vid bro, inspired me to main frozen orb :)
crit damage and vuln damange is worse than close damage. Especially the tempering risk of bricking is substantionally higher. There is no special multipliers to crit or vuln damage, all additive damages are exactly the same which makes close damage the strongest. Also you never want to get damage to frozen / damage to cc since these dont work on bosses for pushing outside of stagger.
I played firewall and did a frozen orb after, at around lvl 51 pit I started dying because I didnt have the stagger. So I tried Necro for a while cause I thought it would be more tanky, maybe it is, but coming back to this build....man the speed just feels so amazing a nd freezeing and exploding everything... this build is just the most fun imo. And I think its the most efficient speed farming build, clear time is just through the roof cause you aoe and move so fast.
Awesome variation of the Frozen Orb Build. I will try switching around to see if your build performs better than my current setup. It would be nice to see your stats on the guide or in the video, like how much Crit Chance, Lucky Hit Chance, etc. we should be aiming for. I am still struggling with Mana and I am scared to take off Tibaults Will Pants, but we will see if I can manage with a similar setup to yours.
Attack power is not really a reliable stat. It ignores conditional modifiers and only uses unconditional ones. Also make sure to press "evade" with Esus Boots on so the crit gets factored in ;) Same with attack speed elixir Also dont look in town look at training dummy
Awesome in-depth guide! Kinda different to many other guides/videos I saw but your are also digging deep. Is this guide still up to date or did you adjust or rethink much in the last 3 weeks? How far could you push with it? Or did you swap to perma immortal with +Flameshield and ⚒️ Flameshield-Duration like nearly all other FrozenOrb/Sorc-Pusher. Is perma immortal the only way?
Hi, iIcan easy push Tier 95 now. If you max all shown items this will be incredible easy to do higher pits. I swear. Yesterday I got a staff with 2 greater affixes on it, max it to 12/12 and pushed from Tier 75 to 95 EASY 🙂 This build is incredible
I really like this build guide - Conjure glyph has been pure win for me. What do you think of Lurkin's Frozen Orb push build that is doing 104 pit? He seems to go a very different route, but it's quite effective. I'd love to see what you could do with it.
How much base attack speed do I need to drop Esu's Ferocity and its corresponding aspect entirely? I would love to switch it to maybe Avalanche + the Conjuration 20% DR aspect. Having a hard time deciding how much attack speed is just enough.
Gathered an Advanced build. The clothes are almost the same as yours. Completely copied the paragon board and the skill tree. My attack power is only 12,000. How did you reach 25,000 attack power?
Attack power is not really a reliable stat. It ignores conditional modifiers and only uses unconditional ones. Also make sure to press "evade" with Esus Boots on so the crit gets factored in ;) Same with attack speed elixir Also dont look in town look at training dummy
I tried to set up this build ....... but I really miss a lot of mana - I don't have the 4 mana on chest - and no harle - how can I fix that ? do you have an idea ?
any way to fit tyraels aswell as shako into the setup? sitting at tier 60 capd armor, 76 max res, 15k hp along and the boss oneshots me, crits are up to 700 mill roughly currently lvl 100. dungeons feel somewhat smooth but the bosses oh boy :D ill follow the guide and see if I can feel any changes.
I have 3 leftover skill points, what should i use them on? I followed the endgame skill tree exactly except for the gear as I have to get new gear for the skill stacks
Is this build assuming you have all renown for the extra paragon points? It’s my first character and it seems like such a long grind to complete, is there a way around this?
just swapped from meteor build which was a ton of fun, but we all know frozen orb is where its at. finally got the necklace to drop. i have some mp5 on gear and atk speed and following your basic build not the advanced. the mana is dogwater. really struggling to spam. any recommendations?
I'm confused with lighting spear because u their is also ice blades & I don't know why to have both if lighting spear isn't even equipped for abilities or passives?
I guess it's just for the critical hit chance? Lol Ive been using it instead of ice blades till lvl 100 but now I really got to dial n my builds I can't wreck bosses for the life of me! :)
Wheres the best place to get fractured winterglass? I've been farming all over for it. I killed lord zir like 30 times already. Or is it the terrorized or whatever version of lord zir?
@GoldfarmingGuide what do you think about the suggestion of swapping the Fire Bolt enchantment for Ice Blades? I read today that it's not necessary to equip Fire Bolt as an enchantment for the burning synergy, because Frozen Orb summons Hydra's that apply burning, which is good enough for boss fights. Thoughts?
Okay question that wasnt in FAQ video. Why do we want to stack lucky hit chance? Frozen orb is like 4% at maximum. Ice blades is 15% maximum. Doesn't that mean that frozen orb has only 4% chance to proc that crowd control effects from tempering affixes?
Nobody is stacking lucky hit chance. We just use the lucky hit chance we can get for free, like Aspect of Fortune. The Chance is low, but in the end, especially ice blades have a very high lucky hit chance. You throw so many orbs that it matters.
@@GoldfarmingGuide thank you. I am finding this build hard to balance. Whenever i get decent gear it lacks attack speed or when i get attack speed or something else i cant hit temper recipe properly:( so far managed to do 50 pit. Looking for tinkering more with setup. Your guide is awesome! This one on maxroll is quite bad when i understood the concept of yours
what build would you recommend for later, with boss farming in mind aswell? im looking for a overall build that can handle good speed, but also bosses. blizzard?
I cant tell you without testing all the builds. It really depends both builds have strength and weaknesses. Blizzard slower in dungeon but stronger on bosses, etc. Blizzard you also cant play the glass cannon style because you dont have the lightning spear cc etc.
@@GoldfarmingGuide I use lightning spear with blizzard, I hit average 2-4m but It feels so bad and boss clear can actually be slower sometimes if they move around.
Hey ! What about using the starless skies ? I've got it from my druid but I'd like to play this build so much on sorcerer. Is it possible to incorporate it in it ? Thanks :)
I'm a bit confused. In your older Frozen Orb video you showcase doing a T200 pit in about 2 minutes and in this updated version of the build you're only doing a T70 pit and it takes you longer. The tormented boss fight takes longer as well. What changed? Did a patch make the previous version no longer viable?
I am level 70 at the moment and I am wondering which build I should use. Advanced or Basic? I keep running out of mana with other builds from other youtubers so I am very confused
Between this and blizzard which is better overall for pushing. Currently running blizzard on nm 60 dungeons. Havent gotten into the pit yet (leveling glyphs).
Dude!!! I 100% agree!! I stopped using talrash as well!! Does burning add to stagger? I’ve thought of getting rid of the Esus boots… the +mana p/s can be pretty good and what not… Wow I really like the glass canon build!! I think aiming for lucky hit and having FN and ice blades as enchants can deff add a lot to the freezing and stagger. For later end game, think imma go full ice to freeze and stagger. No fire. Good stuff man!! Good stuff!! Wait but doesn’t wander and off hand attk faster than a 2h weapon??
The point he makes in the vid is the aspect is doubled on a 2h and the dmg multiplier from frozen orbit aspect is done after everything else, meaning you get all your dmg multipled by 120%. Which is why you need att speed on everything to make up for the loss meaning no talrash as it has no att speed
Burning doesnt stagger. Burning is REQUIRED for any endgame viable build. Devouring Blaze Multiplier is just way too strong to ever not playing burning. Ice blades enchant is good to get some extra mana reg, but definetly behind the others damage wise. But in very late game it all can change with certain stat breakpoints
@@GoldfarmingGuide is it tho? aint there an aspect that gives more damage? The only reason I say that is because if those popints could be placed alsewhere, could help.... I see it this way in m y head, i freese things, they cant attk... I constantly freeze, they die. Something i deff want to try. How optimal can it be? idk. Im not a good pilot either tbh, so there is that.
keep masterworking your gear for more resource cost reduction and resource generation. Get +X mana per second rolls on chest/helm. Double check if you have correct passive on frozen orb. Spam ice blades
I have a question regarding the weapon: You say you couldn't get it to work with a wand and focus. At the same time you stressed that this is a lucky hit chance build because of the stagger, as well as how important attack speed is for this build. Using a wand would give you both. It has 20% faster attack speed and built in lucky hit... wouldn't that be better?
The lucky hit is really not so relevant. you have 3 stagger phases and you reach them totally regardless of the lucky hit. 2 Hand staff just gives you 120% base frozen orb damage instead of 60 which is huge.
@@GoldfarmingGuide And what exactly triggers the stagger? Is it possible to increase that? Yeah I forgot about the 2h bonus completely, my bad, just tested it and it makes a huge difference indeed.
Maxroll builds are not very detailed and usually just updated once before the season even starts, so I would not recommend going crazy on them. They are a good "baseline". But theyre far away from behin viable builds.
@@GoldfarmingGuide That is what i'm starting to realise after watching your build guide. I'm farming 60 pit with the maxroll build and im starting to feel the pain on bosses. Definitely gonna have try to transition toward yours, plus AS based build looks way more satisfying to play. Thanks for your reply.
@@MrAyuyuyu Did it helped you? I am right now in a similar situation. Mobbing in 61er pit no problem. The boss is pain. Is the swap to this approach a good idea?
Maybe it's quicker than blizzard but not sure if it's better for slow guys like me.. did you try ice spikes with the 3rd aspect (15% chill & ice armor trail)? Could be useful for staggering through high attack speed. Also you say tal rasha is dead, but i quite like it with andariel's visage - often keeps you alive through leech
Tibaults is 20% Multiplier with a Condition which is up like ~70% of the time. Regular Pans with concussive strikes are 20% Multplier up vs Bosses in Stagger which is all that counts. Additionally Legendary Pants stats are 15x Better than tibaults.
you can use it if you have nothing better will solve your mana problems. But you have to use esus ferocity and ancient flame with it to get enough attack speed
if you are in early game and struggling with mana you can do that. But if you want to be competitive with this build starless skies will be major damage loss
@@GoldfarmingGuidethanks. I have been struggling a bit so I have been using Thibault, now that I got the ring I can replace the pants and get a better chest with mana regen as well. My chest is a 3GA (int, armor, life). Thank you for always helping!
@@GoldfarmingGuide I took aspect of ancient flame to become a machine gun with my orbs and just did pit 50 as a level 92. I’m excited to see how far this will take me as I my gear gets better.
Fairly certain Accelerating Aspect + Vyr's Mastery keystone is more damage than Esu's + Ancient flame as long as Vyr's remains bugged. My napkin math might be off, but it looks that way at least not to mention the DR from Vyrs.
Hydra enchant is pretty bad since the hydra only lasts for 5 second, so it will really just add one concurrent conjuration which is not a lot. For very endgame if its just about bossing you would remove the firebolt enchant. Then you will have MUCH slower speed through the dungeon, but you have an extra enchantment slot on the boss since you can use your hydra spawned by the winterglass to put burning on the boss.
@@GoldfarmingGuide okay thanks for the tips man great guide in running pretty much the same build just with hydra instead of the ultimate going good so far absolute beast at mob clearing
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I got confused here, in this video you tell us to get lucky hit chance on headpiece at 14:03, but on the FAQ video you posted there at 23:50 you say lucky hit has been nerfed to the ground and it doesn't matter anymore. So do we get lucky hit or no for afixes?
@GoldfarmingGuide ~ for Staff temper…is %Cold OK? I know freeze is best…
That is so much better then all the other Frozen Orb Videos, better explanation, all including and now my pits work very better, thank you!
By far the best frozen orb build guide i have seen. Maxroll is just trash compared to this. Never had this much fun with a sorc before❤
Shame on maxroll for putting out crappy builds.
Great content. Your in depth explanations of WHY you are doing something are some of the best of the content creators I watch on TH-cam. Really appreciate your effort. I am low 90's and can now take the next few levels to try and save gear I will need to make this work - then on to farming for Shako, etc.. as per past seasons. The tempering and masterworking are really going to help make many builds step up to the next level, this one included. Thanks again for the great content.
I change the skill tree and complete paragon tree as per this guide and got the two hand staff. The difference with those changes was night and day when running the same pit (50) with same gear. I can’t wait to get the right tempers and min max
After playing the Maxroll version up to now and hitting a wall in Pits this build feels like getting rid of the shackles I was wearing during training. Keep up the good work!
I have been DYING for you to make this video!!! Thanks so much. I am commenting before I even watch the video, so I'm excited to see how you get single target DPS out of this build.
Yeah I followed your other build from an old video ! Big ooops - at least I have a amnesia scroll from my alt haha
Great great great build guide. I was messing with this build last night and I was struggling, I appreciate the amount of explanation you put into all of if.
Great info. I just wanted to say I know this is end game focused but for newer players you very much can play frozen orb from the start. I’m running thru NM dungeons 15-20 levels above to get the higher item power and boss drop mats earlier. It will only get easier until 100. I don’t have the amulet yet either.
This is more endgame focussed.
@@GoldfarmingGuide I'm not at home right now and can't check. Has this build been updated recently? I'm currently using the blizzard build but would like to try this one if I can get the necklace.
@@Fairburne69 no updates to the build
Thanks alot I've had alot of trouble with boss dmg and this has helped tons!
Ive had so many randoms whisper me about your build when ive been using the advanced version. Some actually used their scroll of amnesia on the spot 😂
Thanks so much, can confirm that your build is superior to all the other Frozen Orb Builds out there. Clear Speed seems to take a slight hit, but the bosses stagger much much quicker and thus I am able to kill them more quickly. Nice. Let's see how much I can push. I still don't dare to tackle the uber bosses until I get more masterworking done.
bro you're a legend thanks for going so in detail :)
Great build!, this build saved my life, its so easy to play and tanky, thank u bro
I followed your build to the T but changed these stats and now im solo pit 110 so far. your priority should be crit damage, vulnerable damage, base damage as these are your base multipliers. then your other damage priorities are damage to frozen, damage with cold, damage vs crowd controlled. Super helpful vid bro, inspired me to main frozen orb :)
Hello fellow FOer. Nice, 116 is the highest ive hit so far. Lemme know what you get up to
crit damage and vuln damange is worse than close damage. Especially the tempering risk of bricking is substantionally higher. There is no special multipliers to crit or vuln damage, all additive damages are exactly the same which makes close damage the strongest.
Also you never want to get damage to frozen / damage to cc since these dont work on bosses for pushing outside of stagger.
I played firewall and did a frozen orb after, at around lvl 51 pit I started dying because I didnt have the stagger. So I tried Necro for a while cause I thought it would be more tanky, maybe it is, but coming back to this build....man the speed just feels so amazing a nd freezeing and exploding everything... this build is just the most fun imo. And I think its the most efficient speed farming build, clear time is just through the roof cause you aoe and move so fast.
thanks, i love detail guides like these
very damn good detailed super pro-bro guide, this is the
Awesome variation of the Frozen Orb Build. I will try switching around to see if your build performs better than my current setup. It would be nice to see your stats on the guide or in the video, like how much Crit Chance, Lucky Hit Chance, etc. we should be aiming for. I am still struggling with Mana and I am scared to take off Tibaults Will Pants, but we will see if I can manage with a similar setup to yours.
mana per second stat on legendary armor is 100 times superior over crappy tibaults
19:08 Is tal rasha ring better now because shredding blade isn't working?
How do you have 50k atk power? I have your exact gear and I’m sitting at 13k. My skills and paragon and build is exactly yours.
Please explain!
Attack power is not really a reliable stat. It ignores conditional modifiers and only uses unconditional ones.
Also make sure to press "evade" with Esus Boots on so the crit gets factored in ;)
Same with attack speed elixir
Also dont look in town look at training dummy
Thanks for the tip where to farm it. Got it first try from him
Awesome in-depth guide! Kinda different to many other guides/videos I saw but your are also digging deep. Is this guide still up to date or did you adjust or rethink much in the last 3 weeks?
How far could you push with it? Or did you swap to perma immortal with +Flameshield and ⚒️ Flameshield-Duration like nearly all other FrozenOrb/Sorc-Pusher. Is perma immortal the only way?
Hi, iIcan easy push Tier 95 now. If you max all shown items this will be incredible easy to do higher pits. I swear. Yesterday I got a staff with 2 greater affixes on it, max it to 12/12 and pushed from Tier 75 to 95 EASY 🙂 This build is incredible
I really like this build guide - Conjure glyph has been pure win for me. What do you think of Lurkin's Frozen Orb push build that is doing 104 pit? He seems to go a very different route, but it's quite effective. I'd love to see what you could do with it.
I get the uber starless Ring with a greater on crit damage. Could i use it or a Other ring. ?
I dont have shako.
Is this build viable with a controller? I’m mostly playing on my ROG ally on the go .
Doubt it
For controller you can try Incinerate, Ball of Lightning, Necro or WW Baba.
Im playing it on the xbox controller just fine.
How much base attack speed do I need to drop Esu's Ferocity and its corresponding aspect entirely? I would love to switch it to maybe Avalanche + the Conjuration 20% DR aspect. Having a hard time deciding how much attack speed is just enough.
It says frost nova as enchantment but I don’t have frost nova due to the skill tree ?
defensive skills on amulet or shako. Its all explained in the video like 3 different times ;)
Gathered an Advanced build. The clothes are almost the same as yours. Completely copied the paragon board and the skill tree. My attack power is only 12,000. How did you reach 25,000 attack power?
Been asking this. He has 50k atk power and I have no idea how. I have identical gear.
Attack power is not really a reliable stat. It ignores conditional modifiers and only uses unconditional ones.
Also make sure to press "evade" with Esus Boots on so the crit gets factored in ;)
Same with attack speed elixir
Also dont look in town look at training dummy
Where do the hydras come from? You don’t have the skill activated but I see them on the screen
Hi, in your Link you don't use frigid breeze and Elemental Dominance, but Snap Freeze and Cold Front instead. Which is the up to date build?
If you dont have Shako you has to use the Starting Setup Build wich uses it.
I specifically say that in the video under the skill tree section that you can redistribute this points
I tried to set up this build ....... but I really miss a lot of mana - I don't have the 4 mana on chest - and no harle - how can I fix that ? do you have an idea ?
get 4 mana on chest and 4 mana on helm. Just enchant it its pretty easy to get
any way to fit tyraels aswell as shako into the setup?
sitting at tier 60 capd armor, 76 max res, 15k hp along and the boss oneshots me, crits are up to 700 mill roughly currently lvl 100.
dungeons feel somewhat smooth but the bosses oh boy :D
ill follow the guide and see if I can feel any changes.
Great guide! For the advanced version I'm wondering why you're not spending the extra 3 points to get the Elemental Summoner paragon node
Because it doesnt do anything and 3 points is actually a lot :D
I have 3 leftover skill points, what should i use them on? I followed the endgame skill tree exactly except for the gear as I have to get new gear for the skill stacks
Check again :P You missed something the skilltree has no free points
me again, on the skill tree you have teleport. how did you get that without speccing into it? is that also granted from the +defensive skills?
Why Defensive Skills are not picked in The Skill-Tree: th-cam.com/video/Rm0Fb1A-cro/w-d-xo.html
Is this build assuming you have all renown for the extra paragon points? It’s my first character and it seems like such a long grind to complete, is there a way around this?
yes every build will assume that you wont find one which does not
Can you play advance version if yiu dont have shako but everything else is GA and you run attk speed elixir?
Sure
Would u use starless skies on this build? Or is the attack speed from legendary rings better?
Starless Skies is 40% Damage. Legendary Rings is ~80% Damage. And Resource can be fixed in different ways.
Which one do you think would do better in terms of fighting Uber bosses? Frozen orb or Blizzard?
Blizzard
yup blizzard is definetly faster
What level do you recommend to farm for this amulet? Im level 50.
I got a lucky drop at helltides early on. I just got a better one by farming lord zir
@pjw4125 i though you can only get it from him
@@didier21years I’m pretty sure all uniques have a chance to randomly drop anywhere. I know for a fact I didn’t get my first one from him
level 80-90 wouldnt bother doing that any earlier
just swapped from meteor build which was a ton of fun, but we all know frozen orb is where its at. finally got the necklace to drop. i have some mp5 on gear and atk speed and following your basic build not the advanced. the mana is dogwater. really struggling to spam. any recommendations?
Mee too. I cannot spam
@@KarelTomanI put on those unique pants he hates. Now I can spam
I'm confused with lighting spear because u their is also ice blades & I don't know why to have both if lighting spear isn't even equipped for abilities or passives?
I guess it's just for the critical hit chance? Lol Ive been using it instead of ice blades till lvl 100 but now I really got to dial n my builds I can't wreck bosses for the life of me! :)
lightnig spear is cast by your amulet automatically
Wheres the best place to get fractured winterglass? I've been farming all over for it. I killed lord zir like 30 times already. Or is it the terrorized or whatever version of lord zir?
they both drop it yes
@GoldfarmingGuide what do you think about the suggestion of swapping the Fire Bolt enchantment for Ice Blades? I read today that it's not necessary to equip Fire Bolt as an enchantment for the burning synergy, because Frozen Orb summons Hydra's that apply burning, which is good enough for boss fights. Thoughts?
I also say that in the video where I explain the 3 enchantment choices. It's slower dungeon clear but slightly faster boss clear.
@@GoldfarmingGuide oh awesome, thanks for confirming.
How could you get 225 Points in Paragon? I only could get 223 points by finishing everything
Have you done all the regional renown?
What is your thought comparing with blizzard build?
This guide did me wonders for my build! Just one question.. no resistances? Full glass cannon?
Resistances Are capped from Intelligence
Okay question that wasnt in FAQ video.
Why do we want to stack lucky hit chance? Frozen orb is like 4% at maximum. Ice blades is 15% maximum. Doesn't that mean that frozen orb has only 4% chance to proc that crowd control effects from tempering affixes?
Nobody is stacking lucky hit chance. We just use the lucky hit chance we can get for free, like Aspect of Fortune.
The Chance is low, but in the end, especially ice blades have a very high lucky hit chance.
You throw so many orbs that it matters.
@@GoldfarmingGuide thank you. I am finding this build hard to balance. Whenever i get decent gear it lacks attack speed or when i get attack speed or something else i cant hit temper recipe properly:( so far managed to do 50 pit. Looking for tinkering more with setup.
Your guide is awesome! This one on maxroll is quite bad when i understood the concept of yours
bro, you fixed my season out of fireball / meteor bait build lol
what build would you recommend for later, with boss farming in mind aswell? im looking for a overall build that can handle good speed, but also bosses. blizzard?
I cant tell you without testing all the builds. It really depends both builds have strength and weaknesses. Blizzard slower in dungeon but stronger on bosses, etc. Blizzard you also cant play the glass cannon style because you dont have the lightning spear cc etc.
@@GoldfarmingGuide I use lightning spear with blizzard, I hit average 2-4m but It feels so bad and boss clear can actually be slower sometimes if they move around.
@@HNWILL get attack speed
have you tried uber duriel? will this build work or better switch to firebolt?
i did not try it but it is no problem. Other tormented bosses i tried are no problem, but I have to save my stygian stones for now
@@GoldfarmingGuide I see, thanks for replying
Hey man I have Ring of starless skies dropped should I use it in this build?
Why not Tal'Rasha or Starless Skies: th-cam.com/video/Rm0Fb1A-cro/w-d-xo.html
Hey ! What about using the starless skies ? I've got it from my druid but I'd like to play this build so much on sorcerer. Is it possible to incorporate it in it ? Thanks :)
You can use it to fix your resource but it's not good for lategame
@GoldfarmingGuide OK thanks 😊
I'm a bit confused. In your older Frozen Orb video you showcase doing a T200 pit in about 2 minutes and in this updated version of the build you're only doing a T70 pit and it takes you longer. The tormented boss fight takes longer as well. What changed? Did a patch make the previous version no longer viable?
the T200 you are referring to is from PTR. The build did never go into live servers like that.
@@GoldfarmingGuide Ah, so the pits were less difficult in the PTR? (EDITED)
@@VertPlaysGames yes and the build was also much stronger
@@GoldfarmingGuide Got it. Thanks for replying so quickly!
Does it matter which Lucky Hit you have on your armor? Should they be different or can I have the same one three times?
I think it doesnt matter they should all be the same strength
I am level 70 at the moment and I am wondering which build I should use. Advanced or Basic? I keep running out of mana with other builds from other youtubers so I am very confused
this is an endgame build. If you’re level 70, much better to play blizzard
Is it confirmed that ice blades cooldown temper is better than resource gen?
Between this and blizzard which is better overall for pushing. Currently running blizzard on nm 60 dungeons. Havent gotten into the pit yet (leveling glyphs).
how do you have the flame shield in your basic version I don't understand?
there is + defensive skills on chest piece. Check the items section
why do you temper "chance to slow/freeze/etc" ? seems useless?
its explained in the build guide in the items section very detailed
Hey i just build it and i have pretty huge Problems reaching the resistances. Any tips to get it?
you can always socket extra diamonds and roll one additional armor on your defensiv pieces
What should I do as level 50 sorc should aim to level to 75 to start this build or 50 is enough?
You want to start this build once you get the amulet.
more like level 80-90 id say :D
Then what is best from lev 55 or 60? Want to spec Out from firewall
@@maxdjango4204 blizzard
stupid question but is fist of fate a viable replacement for this build or just flat no?
no salvage that item :D
Are you sure about the staff instead of the wand and focus? Just curious how much you tested it
yes i teste it a LOT!
@@GoldfarmingGuide thanks! I will try switching to a staff
Regarding Ice Blades - have you confirmed if there is a a cap on the number of ice blades that can be active at the same time?
There is no cap on ice blades.
Ty for guide!Lightning sorc is bad this season?
I think Ball lightning can be good. It is on my list to test
Melhor build que vi até agora
The cooldown on the ice blade decreases so quickly, does it attack speed?
yeah attack speed is great for ice blades cooldown reduction
Dude!!! I 100% agree!! I stopped using talrash as well!!
Does burning add to stagger?
I’ve thought of getting rid of the Esus boots… the +mana p/s can be pretty good and what not…
Wow I really like the glass canon build!!
I think aiming for lucky hit and having FN and ice blades as enchants can deff add a lot to the freezing and stagger.
For later end game, think imma go full ice to freeze and stagger. No fire.
Good stuff man!! Good stuff!!
Wait but doesn’t wander and off hand attk faster than a 2h weapon??
The point he makes in the vid is the aspect is doubled on a 2h and the dmg multiplier from frozen orbit aspect is done after everything else, meaning you get all your dmg multipled by 120%. Which is why you need att speed on everything to make up for the loss meaning no talrash as it has no att speed
Burning doesnt stagger. Burning is REQUIRED for any endgame viable build. Devouring Blaze Multiplier is just way too strong to ever not playing burning.
Ice blades enchant is good to get some extra mana reg, but definetly behind the others damage wise. But in very late game it all can change with certain stat breakpoints
@@GoldfarmingGuide is it tho? aint there an aspect that gives more damage? The only reason I say that is because if those popints could be placed alsewhere, could help.... I see it this way in m y head, i freese things, they cant attk... I constantly freeze, they die. Something i deff want to try. How optimal can it be? idk. Im not a good pilot either tbh, so there is that.
Hey there i have a question. I have a 3x GA staff Int* Max life* Crit dmg*. The question is is it worth it to reroll the crit dmg to vulnerable dmg?
No
holy shit now :D crit damage 1.5x crit is definetly better than 1.0x vuln
I'm out of mana almost all the time using the starter set up, I have to be missing something. Any tips?
keep masterworking your gear for more resource cost reduction and resource generation. Get +X mana per second rolls on chest/helm. Double check if you have correct passive on frozen orb. Spam ice blades
I have a question regarding the weapon: You say you couldn't get it to work with a wand and focus. At the same time you stressed that this is a lucky hit chance build because of the stagger, as well as how important attack speed is for this build. Using a wand would give you both. It has 20% faster attack speed and built in lucky hit... wouldn't that be better?
The lucky hit is really not so relevant. you have 3 stagger phases and you reach them totally regardless of the lucky hit. 2 Hand staff just gives you 120% base frozen orb damage instead of 60 which is huge.
@@GoldfarmingGuide And what exactly triggers the stagger? Is it possible to increase that? Yeah I forgot about the 2h bonus completely, my bad, just tested it and it makes a huge difference indeed.
@@pawelkapica5363 check item section in video it’s explained there very detailed
if u using shako, What aspects should be removed?
undying
how did you manage to solve mana issue while waiting for boss to be staggered?
Temper lucky hit to recover resource +roll mana regen on at leat 1 piece of gear
does this build work in the live season?
Sure this is live :D
Bro i need your help, i hace the advanced build, but, My mana when i atack, don't it fills, its for paragon or something?
same here i run out of mana immediately haven't swapped the paragon board yet though either
you need to get more conjurations up. Spam ice blades.
@@GoldfarmingGuide the cooldown of ice Blades low when i use the frozen orb no?
Hi is there any tip how to get that +1 defense skills chest armor? You Said easy and im strugling 🤣
keep digging. Gambling most likely. It's really not uncommon stat like 1/15 or such
How come you got a +52 all stats on ur shako? I'm 15 tries deep and it seems like it's not possible?
its the worst masterwork ever just ignore it
Hi, what is your take on the maxroll build?
Maxroll builds are not very detailed and usually just updated once before the season even starts, so I would not recommend going crazy on them. They are a good "baseline". But theyre far away from behin viable builds.
@@GoldfarmingGuide That is what i'm starting to realise after watching your build guide. I'm farming 60 pit with the maxroll build and im starting to feel the pain on bosses. Definitely gonna have try to transition toward yours, plus AS based build looks way more satisfying to play. Thanks for your reply.
@@MrAyuyuyu
Did it helped you? I am right now in a similar situation. Mobbing in 61er pit no problem. The boss is pain. Is the swap to this approach a good idea?
There isnt a cap for icle blade conjurarions?
There is not.
@@GoldfarmingGuide ty
No tibultes will? For mana
this build eats like 100 mana per second ;) Tibaults is not gonna help you
How Do you manage such mana regen? I tryed your build, without shaco... Its impressive, but mana Management Problems what I have
10+ conjurations up at a time you will have no mana issues.
Maybe it's quicker than blizzard but not sure if it's better for slow guys like me.. did you try ice spikes with the 3rd aspect (15% chill & ice armor trail)? Could be useful for staggering through high attack speed. Also you say tal rasha is dead, but i quite like it with andariel's visage - often keeps you alive through leech
So if youre relaxed player this build is definetly not good for you :D This is very button spammy. Blizzard much more relaxed
@@GoldfarmingGuide probably.. but what do you think, is it worth to sacrifice an offensive aspect for 15% chill on ice spikes?
love your look of the Sorcerer...are those default unlocked or you actually spent platinum to buy them ?
Also any tips on getting Shako ? Thanks
I think best way to get shako is still farm uber duriel :D I think I use season 3 and season 2 premium battle pass cosmetics combined
Why do you not use Tibaults will pants?
Because he has not mana problems. He does not need the Tibaults to generate mana. And can use the slot for more potential.
Tibaults is 20% Multiplier with a Condition which is up like ~70% of the time.
Regular Pans with concussive strikes are 20% Multplier up vs Bosses in Stagger which is all that counts.
Additionally Legendary Pants stats are 15x Better than tibaults.
thank you♥@@GoldfarmingGuide
Why does my paragon board look different when I pick enchantment master
Never mind I figured it out
should i use starless sky on this?
you can use it if you have nothing better will solve your mana problems. But you have to use esus ferocity and ancient flame with it to get enough attack speed
The one thing I remain confused about with this build is how does lightning spear get cast when you don't have it on the bar?
The Amulet spawns conjurations thats the point of the build ;)
@@GoldfarmingGuide I see - thanks for the insight. So putting points into the conjuration skills basically just buffs the auto-conjured ones?
@@scoontaquex3388 Yes but you do it for the upgrades.
would you drop one of the rings for starless sky?
if you are in early game and struggling with mana you can do that. But if you want to be competitive with this build starless skies will be major damage loss
@@GoldfarmingGuidethanks. I have been struggling a bit so I have been using Thibault, now that I got the ring I can replace the pants and get a better chest with mana regen as well.
My chest is a 3GA (int, armor, life).
Thank you for always helping!
@@GoldfarmingGuide also do you think frozen orb is better than BL? what are your thoughts?
Better 2h than dagger and focus?
yes. And also NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER DAGGER :D If you would use a wand. Dagger is worst choice in history for any build ;)
Why not use a 1hander if wanting max attack speed?
Why Two-Hand: th-cam.com/video/Rm0Fb1A-cro/w-d-xo.html
@@GoldfarmingGuide I took aspect of ancient flame to become a machine gun with my orbs and just did pit 50 as a level 92. I’m excited to see how far this will take me as I my gear gets better.
Fairly certain Accelerating Aspect + Vyr's Mastery keystone is more damage than Esu's + Ancient flame as long as Vyr's remains bugged. My napkin math might be off, but it looks that way at least not to mention the DR from Vyrs.
I use accelerating aspect ;) I cannot confirm Vyrs Mastery is bugged because I did not test it yet.
Tibalts helps with mana as well.
I have big problem with mana management mana overs so fast im lvl 90
don't know where I got my amulet but wasn't Zir, I've just done helltides, pits and a little nightmare and pvp zone..
It can drop anywhere but you can target farm it at zir
Can this build kill uber lilith by any chance?
sure
How can I get 20 mana gen im at 18 and I play mana per sek on my helmet instead of luckyhit
So put Mana gen on your chest as well
Can we swap frost nova enchant for hydra for more conjurations?
Hydra enchant is pretty bad since the hydra only lasts for 5 second, so it will really just add one concurrent conjuration which is not a lot. For very endgame if its just about bossing you would remove the firebolt enchant. Then you will have MUCH slower speed through the dungeon, but you have an extra enchantment slot on the boss since you can use your hydra spawned by the winterglass to put burning on the boss.
Anyway you think we can incorporate tyraels might into the build ??
@@trevorbanks4136 nope item is junk
@@GoldfarmingGuide okay thanks for the tips man great guide in running pretty much the same build just with hydra instead of the ultimate going good so far absolute beast at mob clearing
i read somewhere Vyr's Mastery is bugged and effects all spell types not just shock spells , a better option then Esu's Verosity
attack speed is everything in this build
I have no idea how you keep up the mana, I keep running out of mana (not talking about the boss fights)
check out my video frozen orb faq