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Shaq Relives Breakup With Penny, Shares Why He Left For Kobe & WILD Untold Stories | Ep 27
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:42 Shaq and Penny’s unique chemistry
07:24 DK segment
08:48 The issue with NIL
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16:13 How Shaq forced the Magic to draft Penny
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24:38 Little Penny movement
26:50 Using jealousy as motivation
28:38 Zach Edey
31:13 Being teammates with Shaq
33:11 Beating MJ
37:22 Losing the 95 Finals
39:38 Sam Cassell
42:03 Grant Hill comparison
43:30 Penny vs Kobe
46:13 Shaq reflects about leaving Orlando and Penny
51:56 Ending
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No diddy
6:25 OH TRUE EVEN MORE THAN THE YOU AND KOBE ONE, DANG TEUE
9😮9😅p@@bigblue6394
Loved Penny and Shaq together. It was truly MAGIC. Hardaway was low-key chill. Loved the Lil' Penny commercials. Genius!
Shaq was always hating on his costars, especially when they became bigger stars than him
Shaq didn't leave For Kobe. Kobe was a rookie. Shaq wasn't thinking bout him like that. Shaq left for the bright lights and the 💰
To his defense Orlando and the city shitted on Shaq saying he didn't deserve to be paid a record contract which would have made him the highest pay player or big man at that time
Good thing the late great Jerry West knew what a dominant game changing big man looked like
If Penny never got hurt... his name would be up there with Magic, Bird, Kareem, Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Duncan, Shaq, Wade...the list goes on & on
Arguably Penny has the best signature shoes 👟 of all time 💯
Facts
those foamposite
I remember when Penny's signature shoes and collectible cards are rivaling Jordan's. He was very marketable. The true hybrid of Magic and Jordan. But Injuries robbed us of greatness.
I start to wear more penny’s than Jordans
He sure does !
watching Penny as a child he was definitely one of my favorite players to watch
Exactly 💯 I got chills mann good times
Penny is a Legend!
He is but don't let Shaq gas you he was no Kobe
Penny's was all around better @@wraithyoshidj6702
And those Shaq and Penny pinstripe jerseys was the best NBA jerseys ever all colors …
Original Toronto Raptors best jersey ever
I had all 3 blue Penny white D.Scott black Shaq
Penny should be in the HOF
Real Talk
💯
He didn't have a long enough career playing at a high level because of the injuries. 1993/1994-1998/1999 he averaged 19ppg, 4.7 rpg, 6.3 apg and 1.9 spg. Career 15.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5 apg and 1.6 spg. After 2000, all of his numbers dropped .
He just got nominated for the first time for this year's class. He's one step closer. If T-Mac, G Hill, C Webb and Tim Hardaway got in, so will Penny.
I have all the respect for Penny, but his window was too short to put him in the hof
This is real grown men shit and how you let someone you appreciate & respect them. Great wisdom on reflecting on past mistakes and growing from them. That opening dialogue was dropping a ton of free game.
Penny still my favorite player ever. I lived in Orlando during those days. They had the town lit up! Sad to see how ego's played into their breakup. Shaq was dominant, but Penny was a phenom and was more marketable. He became the crowd favorite and Diesel couldn't handle that. Will always hold that 95 team as one of the best starting 5's ever, and definitely THEE most entertaining team I ever watched play. It blows my mind Penny's not in the HOF. At his peak, every pundit was already talking about his potential to be the GOAT. He would have surpassed Magic as the greatest PG ever if he didn't get hurt. Wear Pennies, GET DIMES!!!
Town was on fire for sure. The Magic went 76-6 at home during the 95 and 96 season, so you knew you were going to get a W if you went to a home game.
Hey man, me too! Any of us who were in Orlando at that time know Penny was THAT GUY. A hybrid of Magic and Michael, we LOVED that uniqueness to him. We'd talk about Penny all the time in school, Central Florida was filled with people wearing Penny jerseys, a lot of us cried when Orlando lost in the Finals to the Rockets. It was a special time! I was a fan through T-Mac's time, and Dwight's time, but Orlando never buzzed like it did in the mid 90s.
"i came in him and you came in him" is crazy
Absurb
I was looking for this exact comment cause that right there was nasty work
Diabolical that nasty work
😂😂
big pause
I’m having PTSD all over again thinking about “what if”. I am a HUGE Penny Hardaway fan. I would have love to seen the Magic and Sonics matchup in the 96 Finals. Unfortunately, free throws a year before cost a legacy😫
Nick Anderson was nice, but I don't think he could live em down?
Memphis Native! Penny is a Stand up guy, Amazing Player & He should to be in the HOF!!! 💙🤍〽️🐯 Go Tigers Go!!!
Kids these days don’t understand how Penny was a DOG!! Dude was a legit baller out of the gate.
I cried when these team got broken up, I was 18 yrs old that time and this team was my life, never supported a team this deep in my life..
Damn. Love Bro!! i Was Only 1 i Wish i Got To See Them.
I with you bro!!
Damn you was at the crossing of the red sea
Same!!!
Man come on 😂
Penny is a real legend man. I listen to any interview this man does. That segment about MJ was crazy. I believe he really wanted that smoke with MJ
Native Orlando’n here, those were great,unforgettable times for Magic fans. Great interview! Thank you Shaq and Penny!
Cuh, best duo ever. Should have stayed together
Pine hills stand tf up
Same. I was SUPER heartbroken when I was like 7 hearing Shaq left. Even being in Eatonville, not able to actually go to the games, being a local when we were dominating was dope!
Penny till this day has one of the best looking shoes.
Anytime Shaq talks about a party story in Orlando, D Scott was always rocking with him. They must been the Batman & Robin of partying. 😂😂😂
Yep I'm from Orlando n was there when Shaq n Penny were killing shit.. Shaq n Dennis Scott lived in Heroes Nightclub over in Eatonville 🤣🤣
@@gainztrain9890 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gainztrain9890 " Heroes " My first taste of the "After Party" after the clubs closed downtown.. if you knew you knew... 4 the morning head to IHOP or Dennis
I’m glad Shaq finally said the truth and dived deeper on it. It wasn’t just Orlando didn’t offer the most money, I’m sure if it came just to that last point , Orlando pays Shaq the money.. It was more to it, Penny was arguably top 3 most popular player at that time 96. Shaq was young and was jealous it’s that simple.
Shaq was looking at movies (Shazaam), Music (Fu-Schnikens), and even video games (Shaq-Fu) back then. + All the adds (Pepsi, Reebok, and many others)
= Not just basketball for Shaq to consider.
Point blank period
@@jonmccormick8683Shaq Fu was the ish. One of the coolest fighting games.
Shaq being a champion in Orlando just at least one time worth more than any laker championships . The city never had one and unfortunately they’ll want get any time soon.
"I came in him" "you came in him"....come on big bro, you cant be saying it like that.
Fr the word “as” could’ve done wonders 😂😂😂 just say you came in as him it would’ve been no sus
Only people who think like that worries about these kinda stuff. Ya'll sus
Was waiting for the pause from Adam lol
@@bayareayackem100Thank you! I didn't even read it like that.
We needed a pause real bad
Best years of my life was going to LSU 90’-92’ had big man in a geology class. We never missed a game, he ran that campus, couldn’t get a ticket on a Wednesday night, it was mayhem in the student section !!!
I went up to him once class let out to tell him how much we loved him… he was so cool and even said “ thanks big guy”…. I’m 5’5 😉
We all knew he was going to dominate the league… what a time to be alive!!!!
Penny will Be in the Hall of Fame one day. His Game was Elite, his sneakers catalog was Dope & he had a Tremendous impact on the Culture. I can see him coaching in the League also. Penny & Shaq would have won 3 rings together if the team stayed in tact & kept getting better. The Bulls Dynasty crumbled & Orlando could have took the mantle.
I SWEAR I LITERALLY WAS SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING 💯
No he isn’t bro lol he had 3 great years stop the bs he was tuff in the nba but he needed 3-4 more years of avg 20 and 7
No he isn’t bro lol he had 3 great years stop the bs he was tuff in the nba but he needed 3-4 more years of avg 20 and 7
Bulls team crumbled is hilarious. They won 3 straight after that. 😂. Ain't nothing like waiting 3 4 years for a team to crumble.
@@Bob-te3le The Bulls Dynasty was dismantled after the 98 season b/c of Ego & a Power struggle between the Team & Jerry Krause. If that shit sandwich didn’t happen that squad would beat the 99 Spurs in the Finals.
The white dude claiming nyc as a foamposite hub shows how hard he tries to be relevant, glad Penny corrected him and let him know foams are a DMV thing
Bro I damn near cut it off lmao
DMV number 1 foam market but as a native New Yorker foams get worn a lot too but mostly In the winter or ball or work purposes
11:55 They gave Penny’s mom a house in the blue chips movie 😂
From Nick Anderson's steal late in Game 1 to a 9-0 run to end Game 3 to a 14-0 run to end Game 6, the Magic found a way. It would be the final time that Jordan's Bulls were knocked off in a playoff series.
Penny was a pass first Kobe. So dynamic, he could score but was so unselfish. A lot of passes weren't assists because he gave Shaq the ball in the post.
I was at Penny's first college game at Memphis. He was credited with like 7 TO's because he was hitting guys in the numbers with passes they weren't expecting. They learned real quick to keep your hands up and be ready.
Honorary Hall of Famer Coach Hardaway is definitely a coach dissecting halfcourt sets. Much much respect and success
Rip Kobe 👏🏽
I know Shaq is most remembered as a Laker, but I still to this day only think of Shaq on Orlando with Penny. That was one of my favorite duos growing up. I hated when Shaq left and went to the Lakers. I remember when NBA Live 97 came out for Playstation; I released Shaq off the Lakers and put him right back on Orlando. And that's coming from a guy that grew up in Chicago as a Bulls fan in the 90's.
IIt seems to me that Penny and DWade don't fight with Shaq much cause they still have a sense of fear and respect for him that they don't call him out much, but Kobe don't give a shit and wasn't afraid to call him out.
It's as simple as that bro. Penny and D Wade allowed Shaq to lil bro them and Kobe wasn't having none of that so they clashed.
Weird how he wouldn’t say Kobe’s name but refer him as the “other guy” while saying Wade and Pennys name. Shaq is and always will be a fragile baby
Yet,Kobe acted like a big-BABY-when his team-mates called him out for being a ball-HOG-tho. Kobe was acting like a stubborn little-CHILD-even phil Jackson called Kobe-UNCOACHABLE-in his bio-book.
Yet,Kobe acted like a big-BABY-when his team-mates called him out for being a ball-HOG-tho. Kobe was acting like a stubborn little-CHILD-even phil Jackson called Kobe-UNCOACHABLE-in his bio-book.
@@user-be7tc2bd6eI mean he got drafted at 17 and was clearly the best in the league
Penny WAS HIM😳 whn my kid started play ball i MADE him watch old Penny games 🤷🏻♀️ Penny was Kobe before Kobe🤷🏻♀️🤣💛
Shaq mentioned that Penny came in balling, but Kobe was straight out of HS while Penny came out after his Jr year in college. So based on age the timelines add up, actually by the time Kobe is 22-23, Penny's age as a rookie, him and Shaq already won 2 rings
Lakers had a better team than Shaq n penny
@kushaholic2287 that's debatable
@@farfromdunn look at the 2000 lakers and 95 magic rosters
@kushaholic2287 I watched both. The Lakers have better names but a bunch of those guys were old. The rosters are very comparable talent wise
Those years playing in college helped Penny's game and personal growth,Kobe coming right out of high-school lacked these things and also how to play a-TEAM-sport,thus,his ball-hogging ways.
My favorite player of the 90s! And I was a Laker fan. Was really thinking he’d be Magic Johnson 2.0 and win multiple titles.
So when Shaq went to my squad, it was bittersweet knowing their run was over. I even secretly rooted for Penny in his matchups against Kobe later
THE INTRO IS FIRE! SHAQ IS THE BEST!
Penny is a 🐐
T.V has less ad's than this platform😭🙌🏼💫
😂
Very few things make me happy enough to bother commenting but see Shaq and Penny together again made my whole damn day!
IM LIVIN AND FEELIN LARGE
Orlando Magic could have been a Dynasty like Chicago.. probably like 6 championships
@bossbusiness8137 not in the 90s
now you dissin' kobe, when he died, you was all "I wish we would have" this and that....now he's "the other guy"....maaan, fuck shaq
Exactly, glad someone else caught that too
Nobody notices this throughout the years. But u should know shaq has always been a goofy and a sell out. He was way diff from Kobe. Kobe was woke in other ways people couldn’t imagine which led to his death between big Pharma if u know u know. Kyrie is the same way he didn’t take the vaccine and earth is flat for example . (Which both are true ) this world isn’t what you were taught and when that keep getting more know the elites will find a way to keep u sleep
Facts Shaq fake as fuck for calling him the other guy amd shit. But he was you guy in the other episode of his podcast. F Shaq
Facts.
@@gerrettj32 I just exposed shaq a couple days ago on this post about Kobe . And how he’s a Hollywood casual who is apart of the weirdos in Hollyweird . And that deleted my comment 😂😂😂😂 every time I speak truth on this app it gets deleted
Hit up The Front Office to bring him, then gets nervous about the ramifications to his own shine when they do it...Lady and Gentlemen, Shaq is human. 😂
No, Shaq is just a jealous baby
As a Nupe, thanks Adam for asking the Greek question it was something I was hoping and eager to hear them mention
I loved this episode. I love seeing brothas building with and admiring one another.
I WATCHED THAT WHOLE SERIES, HAKEEM AND THE ROCKETS FUCKED YALL UP!! ROBERT HORRY WAS COMING INTO HIS PEAK AND SAM CASSELL WAS A YOUNG AND VERY SKILLED GUARD AND OLAJUWON WAS JUST DOMINATE!!
Penny is still my favorite player. I’ve got every jersey and every shoe. I traded all my Jordan cards just to get ALL PENNY cards. 90’s Orlando Magic was the team. Much love half cent
Shaq and Penny were the best duo ever imo. It was so fun watching them play.
I'll be heartbroken like that day in 96' if this podcast ever stops. Great job Big Fella and Adam
I'm from Memphis and Penny's grandma lived in my neighborhood. Used to play streetball with him in the 90s. The difference between a NBA player and regular people is hard to imagine unless you play against them.
The fact Shaq and Penny. The 2 stars of Blue chips, are talking against the N.I.L Deals is wild!
Shaq&Penny were the last duo to ever beat Mj&Pip in the playoffs thats iconic within it self best young duo in the 90's 💪🏾
I loved this interview with Penny and Shaq. I was able to watch it from phone and then on my 55" TV. It was great. Adam was great as well. Very enjoyable ❤
One of the Greatest Interviews SO Far. Need to be in the HOF SOOOOOON!
My favorite player ever Penny baby. He was a head of his time. An he is HIM fr 💯💪💪💪
As a Lakers fan, I am obviously happy with how everything unfolded for Shaq leaving Orl for LA. damn in the 90s those two were the up-and-comers that were gonna take over AFTER the Bulls' reign.
As for the question, how many more would Kobe and Shaq would've won if they stayed together? lmao. at most 2. realistically 1. At that time, Shaq was getting lazier and lazier and getting hurt more and more. Bro. I witnessed the whole thing. Stop changing the narrative. I love you Shaq. Probably my favorite basketball personality of all time. But brotha, it was a struggle tryna get you to be all in on basketball...or just the conditioning aspect of it. Stop the cap.
Shaq congrats homie we needed this for the culture! 💯💯💯💯
This is a great interview 👏 it feels like Shaq has finally come full circle with Penny.
They are mature enough to admit their past mistakes.
Shaq let his ego destroy it
Just seeing these two super stars together. Just makes my heart go back to 1992
Shaq and Penny was the beginning of my love of basketball. I even followed Penny to Phoenix (Backcourt 2000 was a moment 😂)
Penny my fav player all time! He was kicking Jordan ass
Out of all the ‘what if’ stories I think G Hill and Penny had the highest ceilings
It's about time. And this should have been in person
As a Magic fan this warms my heart in so many ways!!! Penny was different and that’s in any era or generation.
Even as a Bulls fan, i was pissed at Shaq for leaving Penny. They were a problem together.
But back in 96, I thought Shaq was crazy leaving Orlando because I thought they were the up-and-coming of Magic and Kareem and won 5 championships together. With knee issues for Penny, Shaq made the right move in the end, signing with the Lakers and winning 3 championships.
That was wild... "i came in him... and he came in him...". Pause. 😂😂😂
One of my favorite episodes 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Shaq.... The interview was good... But referring to Kobe as "the other guy" multiple times is not cool and honestly disrespectful
For real
Didn't even realize it. Shaqtin a fool
Don't be so sensitive. If Kobe was still here, he'd be ribbing Shaq. That was their relationship. He's not dissing Kobe. He is just keeping that same energy, Kobe wouldn't want it no different.
I honestly feel like Shaq has been asked not to say Kobe's name. I think there was an article or something like that.🤔
@@s.h.p.zfinest256that aint tru , Kobe didnt shit on Shaq much in his last few years , they even had a sitdown in 2018 everything was mutual and Kobe wasnt the type of guy after his retirement to shit on people
That was supposed to be Scottie Pippen shoes.
Great Interview The Best ❤
Shaq don't refer to Kobe as the other one .. c'mon man
This gonna be classic
I went to Orlando to see a couple of their games, I had the Penny gear, and I ROCKED that shit like he was my boyfriend. Every guy I knew was all up in my shit about it. These 2 guys were SO much fun to watch. Legends.
“You came in, him” is wild crazy
Shaq loves his ads
....and to make money
Shaq didn't leave penny for Kobe, Shaq went to the Lakers then Kobe eventually ended up at the Lakers
July 18, 1996 is when Shaq signed and Kobe was drafted June 26, 1996
@@iammrhallkobe wasnt drafted there or traded there until 2 weeks later and even still Shaq didnt leave to join a dude who wasnt even 18 yet, Shaq went for the money and living in LA and Kobe jus ended up being a plus
@@moneyman4740 July 11, 1996 is when Kobe was traded to the Lakers which is still days before Shaq signed.
@@iammrhall who said it wasnt , u brung up the day Kobe got drafted like thats the day he went to the Lakers and even still Shaq didnt know about Kobe till after he signed and Jerry West said “i got this kid named Kobe” Shaq went cuz he wanted 100+ million dollars , not cuz of highschool Kobe , i dont know wat u cant comprehend
@@moneyman4740 my point is still true. Kobe was a laker before Shaq.
*my childhood right here. loved these guys back in the day and Horace, Scott, Darryl, Nick, Skiles....just the coolest mfs on the planet* 😎
When Shaq left Orlando and Penny, it took me about 15 years to forgive him. Those that didn't get to watch it, it was truly the biggest "what if" had they stayed together
The amount of ads is crazy wtf
Drafted Penny & Shaq still left Orlando
Well trade for him. Orlando got him and 4 first round picks for C Webb and Webber left GS after one season
Ol boy? The other guy? Damm big fella no need to disrespect Kob like that
Thought the same whats up with that Shaq
Real
He was actually trying to be respectul by NOT making the comparison. So by not using his name, there is no soundbite of him comparing Kobe and Penny.
Yeah Shaq tried to make the comparison more about the lack of friction, him and Penny had.
@@flavanthensomeCompletely understandable 👌🏾it just sounds a lil bad going through the ear when we all know who he may be referring to lol
Before kobe it was penny 💯 salute to shaq penny n rip kobe
When you left that team and Kobe was in his prime years that man average is 35 points a game you know the career high 81
Game know game, dmv been puttin on the foams for decades now. Preciate the love
Love those guys, that was my team, followed Shaq from Da LSU Tigers!
It seems like every Shaq story about him in Orlando, D. Scott was always in the mix lol shout out to D. Scott he a real one lol
Penny should be an NBA coach.
OH MY GOD! PENNY HARDAWAY! Like every time I see you, I get kinda giddy inside. I love you so much, Penny. In middle school, I used to rotate posters in my binder of you, Ice Cube and Nasir. I just...whew! Oh my God! I enjoyed this interview, fellas. Thanks so much. We already know how ill, sick wit it and just graceful you were on that court so I don't need to pick it apart. I love you so much. You still look good.
The only person Shaq likes hearing about or talking about more than Shaq is Shaq
Observations. 1: It’s like we were spammed with ads, either from the pod or TH-cam, with an interview in between. 2nd: “I came in him and you came in him” can’t even be covered with a PAUSE. That’s is way too WILD
Outside of Mj in the 90's my guy Penny was the coldest if not for injuries may of surpassed Mj cause he was actually a better all around player and alot more explosive off the bounce he was a freakish long quick guard that we still have never seen another like he was cold blooded and he got the best signature line even better than the Air Jordan line to me💯
Hell naw. Penny ain't better all around than Jordan. He ain't more explosive. 😂😢😅
@@Bob-te3le At this time Penny was more explosive cause MJ was older Penny was a youngin and this is Penny before injuries and go look at his Memphis State college games well hell you see no one could stop him in the pros either and Penny had a better all around game than Mj he just had the least to work with MJ had Pippen who had a better all around game than Mike,MJ was like a 6'6 version of Durant and unstoppable scoring machine he was very efficient but he is still the Goat only thing that set him apart from other players is ferocious smothering defense he played on players but he could t stop Penny the only player that gave him nightmares like he gave players and that's the truth but MJ the Goat and if Penny had of stayed injury free he would if won rings and been in that discussion rite behind MJ because think about it Bron don't have no post game,Bron didn't have the lateral movement and footwork as Penny hell Kobe didn't either Bean just wanted to score and in the NBA record books he got one of the worst shooting percentages in league history so that leaves honestly Penny who should be #2 behind MJ and G.Hill #3 behind Penny but both suffered horrific career ending injuries Penny worse than Grant but they're both still iconic.
Shaq and Penny I love it 💯💯💯
🔥🔥 podcast
How didnt yall know jj was getting lakers job, he started a podcast with lebron a month before
intro is firee...always good 2 c Shaq & Penny. The original b4 Shaq & Kobe, Shaq & Flash
I respect Shaq so much but Kobe was 17 years old and Penny was 22 years old, just finished his Junior year of college ball. Of course Penny came in as Him. Kobe was a teenager.
Penny was great and his little Penny commercials were awesome lol
I remember when Shaq said Penny was coming, and Little Penny showed up on hawthorn Avenue 😂😂😂
52:38 what Memphis team does Penny Hardaway coach
University of Memphis
Great episode but my goodness all the ads were killing me lol