Pastor Phelps reluctantly talks to Louis Theroux - BBC
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He's like a living South Park character.
@TankAce Me too, actually!
@Red Crusader south park doesn't make fun of christians that much...
They tuk our yobs!!!
Eat their babies!!!
this is a very small, white group of sad people.
This guy’s sense of time is like mine when I’m at work.
'this is about 15 minutes'. After a two minute interview 🤔🤔
Top comment 👍🏻 😄😆😄
His brain is religious mush, what can we expect? The problem is their delusion is far more dangerous than we know
Brilliant 😂😂😂
the whole video is shorter than 5!
"You are too dumb" and Louis just raises his eyebrows in response. The king of understated comedy for sure.
Most ironic statement of the century that was
and then 10 seconds later Louis has to educate on him on what 5 minus 2 is. just classic.
@@ashleyl3699 didn’t the “pastor” say he already talked for 2 minutes so saying Louis only had 3 minutes left would make sense? It’s a billion things that piece of shit needed to be educated on, but wasn’t his math correct?
Hilarious
youre too dumb if you find that funny
When he screamed "Your gonna eat your babies" I would have literally burst out loud laughing and crying on the floor in hysterics.
Look up “Howard Stern Hollywood Squares”. This family actually went on HS back in the day. Howard put them on stage with all the type of people they hate. It was funny asf.
I wouldn’t be able to hold it either
When he said U WILL EAT UR BABIES I felt a chill down my spine when the camera pointed at a baby. Did u know WestBoro Baptist Church turned a Black man down telling him they dont want his kind in the Church. Jesus taught Love and Yet they spread hatred
The tinkly piano that followed this was wonderful
He copied that from Jim Jones.
Louis: "Pastor, do you have five minutes for a couple of questions?"
Phelps: "Well, uhhh..."
*sees least favourite grandchild wanting to play with him*
Phelps: "YES"
Lol I was about to say the same thing. Even if what he preaches is going to be true, God would bury Phelps in the deepest parts of hell for the way he treats his own family and followers
@@123apacino He died in 2014, so I get the feeling that his meeting with his maker didn't go very well
"I can't answer that question your too dumb".... 30 seconds later "this 5 minute interview is over I talked for 2 minutes" ....
he is american man allow for that
I'm pretty sure he just meant "You've been asking questions more than I've been answering them."
You misspelled "you're." Don't make fun of someone else when you can't even spell a basic word correctly.
@@xBwahx I'm pretty sure his dementia was already starting at this point
I have to agree with you! ;-)
How can an old man who doesn't understand the difference between 5 and 3 minutes be a prophet of god ....
Listen to what he's saying.
and then he said "15 minutes are up", he's the dumb one, not Louis >:(
there are no more genuine prophets of god anymore...and anyone who claims themselves to be is very likely to be a false prophet.
LEVEL99 Records idiot
I know you probably dont understand subtlety but he meant that Louis was wasting his time and spending too much time asking what he perceived to be silly questions
Phelps: YOU'RE GONNA EAT YOUR BABIES!!!'
Boy: Mummy?...
Mother: Shhh, listen to the crazy man.
bibbies
Hahahaha good one!
lol
LOL 😂 Just remember... You're not going to eat "your babies"... YOU'RE GONNA EAT J'BABIES!!! I make a fantastic dish that's make with potatoes. It's kinda like an Au Gratain- but with J'babies. *chef kiss* Delish!
Sheesh, imagine growing up under such a father. No wonder these people get crazy.
Sounds like an old man who doesn’t know anything about what he’s talking about but has become so good at doing just that, that he genuinely believes he knows everything
He's been dead for many years. I have a feeling that his meeting with his maker didn't go too well
He was incredibly abusive, his daughter was beaten so badly by him that she has permanent injuries. Yet she brought up her own children in this church, they basically had no choice.
Yup. It's called willful and proud ignorance.
Sounds like basically every old religious man 😂
Phelps is a narcissist & they believe they are always the smartest person in the room. Other people's opinions are irrelevant to him. Also narcissists lack empathy & don't care if they hurt or offend others. That's why he could carry those hateful signs at funerals & preach that only his church will make it to heaven & everyone else is damned by God.
Finding out he was a civil rights lawyer is too weird
It's crazy, isn't it? He was a veteran of the civil rights movement in the 60s and was arrested for his involvement iirc. Put his career on the line to liberate black people and yet shamelessly spouts the most disgusting homophobic shit you can think of. Nothing's black and white I guess.
This shit fucked up haha
As a gay man, the fact he was so anti racist is somewhat comforting. He was not evil. Just misguided.
@GG GG True but you'd think that the majority of people who campaign for racial equality are also pro-LGBTQ and not like viciously homophobic
@GG GG none of the black people I know believe homosexuality should be a crime or that gay men go to Hell. Maybe some of the West Africans I’ve met were raised to believe that but after living in America for a while, they grow largely out of it like anybody with two brain cells to rub together would.
It’s really hard to believe that this semi-literate man is a lawyer.
There's a reason he is and all his family are lawyers...they go around protest, get kicked out, and turn around sue in federal court for 1st amendment rights...and they collect the money and move on to the next town...
Its genius really...
Oddly enough he was a civil rights attorney that had several notable cases under his belt in Kansas in the sixties.
@GG GG because his views in his later years don’t exactly scream civil rights defender
@@matj3296 ronnie pickering
@@Mvbongobel"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
Not agreeing with his views, but him exercising his rights is a defense of others rights...
No it was 5 minutes..
Well we already did 2 of them.
So then theres 3 left. lol Louis cracks me up
Logic > Insanity
@@Angell_Lee ronnie pickering
Okay now. This is about 15 minutes lol
It says something about the followers of Christianity that they follow a man unable to do additions to the sum of five.
Even made Fred chuckle
Such a toxic place to try and develop an open mind.
GoreBag Le Mort That's exactly the opposite of what they want
Yup, that pretty much sums up the USA.👽😎🙂🇨🇳🇲🇶🇨🇦🇬🇧🇰🇭🇦🇫🇺🇳🇲🇫🇱🇦🇰🇵🇲🇳🇪🇦🇪🇦🇫🇷🇵🇲🍻🥂😂🤣
Who said anything about opening minds?
Ps. We've got similar Profile pics \m/
@Otto Manfred wrong
@@will6925 go cling on to your bibles and weapons you right wing dog 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
“Anyone other than me is lying”
Hmmm I’d expect all liars to say something like that.
Louis: No, it was 5 minutes
Phelps: But I already talked 2, didn't I?
Louis: So there's 3 left? 🤔
Phelps: 😬
Your emoji game is top notch
@@this_is_NOT_a_test If you're woke, you're a nazi
I often feel like shouting “YOU’RE GOING TO EAT YER BABIES” ‘Fredstyle’ whilst in crowded places for no reason whatsoever.
Do it, babe.
Do it!
Patricia Schwent I’ve already done it....and that’s why I’m banned from my closest mall
me too, and "GOD DUPED YOU!"
@@brillsmith2207 lol, I just read this comment and he said those words at the same time! 😂
Genuine mental illness. This man can provide no solid answer nor argument to what are considered incredibly open, and almost favourable to him, questions. It's more baffling than it is infuriating at this point.
that or the donation money is too good
I agree. Also, he's a cunt.
He spoke to louis like shit and he thinks louis is the one going to hell lol.. louis is respectable and polite and if there is a god he would be proud of him..hmm I think the old guy is abit narcisstic and very bitter, not nice
And these people vote
Let that sink in
He knows Louis is trying to catch him out so he refuses to talk.
I saw this piece five years after Phelps death and it still gave me the creeps. The level of hatred, close mindedness, and incapability to have a healthy conversation is just stunning. Even if they were right, they should open up to questions or educate people about their belief and they aren't even capable doing that. This is above all a human thing instead of a God thing.
@@TheRealRenn you must be dumb
@@TheRealRenn Sounds like you are just waiting in a nice warm sunny spot for the nurses to bring you your afternoon meds and pudding. STFU.
@@TheRealRenn You can pervert the definition all you want but BLM is in no way similar to the Phelps's church. You are a racist imbecile.
According to some sources he was excommunicated as he was starting to realize he's hatred believes were wrong.
Like British Tories, they have to lie through their teeth, because if we knew their true intentions, we'd hate them one and all.
Looks like grandpas off his meds again.
I'm dyingggg 😂😂😂
Blindness comes to those that don't see my friend.
@@panismith1544 i have little to no friends so don't get too hung up
These people almost make Scientologists seem sane.
Scientology wins in sanity, hands down. Say what you want about them (believe me, I hate them too) at least there's a kernel of philosophy there that is actually positive and empowering for its believers. WBC and Fred Phelps had no positivity at all. Everyone was going to hell, no matter what. Everyone was to be hated; even their own followers were probably going to hell. Scientology was born out of sci-fi Utopianism; WBC is Doomsday to the extreme. It's like all they read was Revelations and no other part of the Bible.
@@Zzyzzyzzs i wonder what the intergalactic space warlord Zenu would think about this..... crazy is as crazy does
@@Zzyzzyzzs You can only think that because you don't know anything about Scientology, The main difference between WBC and Scientology is that Scientology is a successful criminal racket not just an evil cult; they are both evil cults
@@2012nut Xenu, or Xemu, and he is not a good guy in Scientology
@@Zzyzzyzzs Scientology is worse by just about every conceivable metric. WBC is hateful; however, the Supreme Court decided (correctly) that to be hateful is their prerogative if that’s how they wish to live. Scientology is literally an extortion racket and their members harassed the women Danny Masterson raped (add witness tampering to their rap sheet). They’ve also broken up families with their bullshit policy about “Suppressive Persons” and threatened to bring litigation against anybody who speaks the truth about them after leaving. Westboro isn’t automatically worse just because they say nasty things about gays and military personnel.
These types of people are insane.
Michael Prince Oh of course, who wouldn't think that. They are special kind indeed...
Angry and mentally ill
Its extreme narcissism boardering on crazy, I feel sorry for the families kids being dragged into all that brainwashing and hatred
Michael Prince frankly anyone who believes in god is
Joseph Len well body any person who diss online is a loser so win -win
Love how the guy says louis is dumb because he's crapping himself because he can't even understand louis's questions.
ErrolWhitedawg That's his logic - if he can't understand something, it must be dumb... Dunning-Kruger effect maybe?
@@harriffanconshertini8804 ronnie pickering
What a sweet genuine man. Louis, that is!
@@ironanvil2375 You LIKE Phelpsy!?
1:54 Such a surreal, vile environment. When he sits he's dismissive of the child with cotton candy, probably his granddaughter. He looks at her and just ignores.
It was a stuffed animal
Louis Theroux; thank you for doing this interview, it's priceless!
Louis ability to exercise such restraint to not fly kick that old mans teeth out astounds me
I don't think Louis wants to hurt anyone.
@@a_single_white_female True haha
@@a_single_white_female ronnie pickering
@@Tom-uv7ry Ffs...You at it again😉
@@JJamJ yep
Man, those fifteen minutes fly by when you're having fun
1:14 "God himself duped Bush into a No Win war" Referring to Afghanistan he is actually 100% right here...
He sounds like Charles Manson a bit hahahaha
He's surprisingly less eloquent than Manson, but the pitch and accent are pretty dead on.
Manson was a lot more intelligent than this guy and that's saying something.
they are all the same
Way dumber than Manson
charles manson scores higher in sanity tests
Dude couldn't even remember how long the interview was gonna be. He was clearly demented (literally). But he acted like this his whole life, so.
Probably because he has a dumb IQ
@@marryIsfake964 ronnie pickering
More like, “It’s five minutes when I say it’s five minutes. Your’s is up.”
Man he dodged those questions like the matrix.
'Asked and answered'
Why haven't I been using that..!
It's like watching a serious sacha baron cohen skit.. louis and sacha are brilliant in their own field 👍
Psychopathy is a hell of a condition....
And a condition of hell….
Yes, but I feel like Louis can overcome it. There's hope for him, so long as he drops this Woke evil that he supports
@@Jmith-su3ze Are you claiming that Louis Theroux is a psychopath? If so, what is your evidence? And what is the "woke evil" that he supports?
@@Jmith-su3ze pssst… you…. yeah you…. you’re type of people we’re referring to 😘
@@thegrayareainlife6474 I work hard, I am honest, I don't break the law, I don't drink or take drugs and I take care of my family and am loyal to my friends. The fact this is your definition of hell speaks volumes about you
Looks like a form of dementia to me?
Maybe Alzheimer's....
Fred Phelps did have dementia in the last years of his life... in Theroux's latest documentary with the WBC made this year he stated he was excommunicated from the church cos of behavior related to his dementia.
He did have dementia near the end, so he likely had a good amount of it years before unless it was caused by a sudden stroke or smtg. But even as a youth he had this vile attitude so it can't all be blamed on that.
CloudFilmsProd What...he was that way his entire adult life.
@@janedoh2625 vile attitude? His attitude and his beliefs are spot on its a fact God does not agree with being gay
This is why a proper education is important.
louis is just incredible at dealing with people
Those people can't actually seriously believe that mad man
"You're gonna EAT YA BABIES!!!!" Everyone sat there like yeah, he's talking sense
Its like that scene from kingsman
Pastor doesnt Jiggle Jiggle, he folds
"So there's three left" great comeback!
Phelps is actually very funny. Too bad he didn't choose stand up instead of whatever you call this...
"You're just too dumb, sorry!" 😂😂
“You’re gonna eat your babies”! He should’ve been a comedian 🤣🤣🤣 however what he says has truth to it but he’s going about it the wrong way
@@righteousteacher3633
Phelps is hilarious. Watch his interview with with Sweden TV.
I wouldn't have minded attending one of his sermons if i was in town
meeg_2005 for sure. I’ll check it out.
@@Bawitdabadabangdadang ronnie pickering
Why does the pastor talk down to someone whose just trying to learn?
Ikr. I thought their whole purpose was to educate and bring people closer to their god not just bitterly deflect. This dude is filled with hate.
@@razark9 ronnie pickering
He has a great voice, I give him that
Not all elders deserve respect.
'Isn't it an act of presumption a little bit on your part that when you don't have all the information about all the other churches to assume that you have a privileged access to grace?' - wow, what a question.
This guy’s an out and out crank.
If there were no visuals, just audio, you'd swear it was Charles Manson. The same accent, the same insane way of speaking. Absolutely identical.
his family talked about him like he was such a wonderful loving man. He sure didnt seem that way in front of the camera
Apparently he had a change of heart few days before his death.
I thought this was a joke and he’d had a transplant that failed 😂
Louis has mastered great telegraphic expression hasn’t he? Class act the man.
Rarely is 'hate' so personified.
0:57 - Louis shocked facial expression 😅
I think someone forgot to take their medicine…
"and good luck to you". One of my fav things
The sudden change in tone is hilariously jarring
Fred Phelps was the kind of person who created more of an aversion for Christianity than anything.
1:08 that delivery lol
Dude was based
Well he wasn't wrong about Iraq and definitely wasn't wrong about Afghanistan.... Lol.
Could you imagine coming to that town for some reason and decided to go to church and accidentally ended up here at this place I would have been thinking someone needs to start hiding the red wine that they use for the offering of the body of Christ 🤣😂🤣😂
Love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness…
I like how that lady with her baby looks up when Freddy shouts “YER GONNA EAT YER BABIES!!
This scary old man reminds me of that other scary old man from the movie 'Poltergeist '. They're both preachers, too. Lol
Reverend Henry Kane! 😂😂😂
@@alexandrawhitneyedwards312 ronnie pickering
y does this remind me of Outlast 2 💀 like that beginning why does he sound exactly like Papa Knoth 😂
This is what happens when a man fails to resist the forces that can turn us all into domineering tyrants. The calm hatred in his eyes, the wrinkled scorn, the gourd of gnarled resentment - this is what can happen if you take the path away from forgiveness, humility and compassion. The arrogance to say you know already what a person is like without taking time to get to know them - this, right here is a cowardly failure, retreating into the easy answers of bitterness, tyranny and conceit.
Pray for him, and everyone he touches.
I really appreciate your comment, and agree with you entirely, up until (but excluding) your final sentence. Your observations demonstrate great insight and understanding of some of the worst aspects of human relationships... especially the wanton exercise of power and control by one individual over another. The pastor's refusal to engage in an honest, respectful dialog with someone who is not already under his control is a hostile, tyrannical act, just as you have observed. It is certainly arrogant, and better understood as an expression hubris than self-confidence.
I would differ perhaps in one respect, that I'm not sure it's actually "cowardly" (although it might be), as another possible explanation is that it's purely a pragmatic, tactical, and cynical choice on his part. I did not detect any "fear" in Pastor Fred Phelps' eyes, or in his voice.... only contempt and disgust. In this regard, I doubt the pastor could see any benefit to spending time elaborating or explaining his point of view to someone who was not already persuaded by his arguments. This is most likely based on years of previous experience. His business entails controlling the beliefs and actions of other people, and any successful businessman has to recognize the limits of their influence, and where their business model is most likely to yield rewards.
But returning to your final sentence: What is the basis for your (inferred) belief that prayer would have any beneficial effect? With regard to the pastor himself, it's a moot question, as it's my understanding he's already dead, and therefore permanently beyond persuasion. It is on behalf of other people who have been influenced by his poisonous hatred that I inquire. I am more inclined to think that engaging any such people in a kind, courteous, and patient manner could eventually lead them to see the world in a different way. But is there any reason to think that prayer would have the same beneficial effect? I don't understand how that would work.
My views in this regard are based partially on the "testimony" provided by Megan Phelps-Roper, who was able to escape the direct control of the community of the Westboro Baptist Church. In her entire Ted Talk about how this happened (th-cam.com/video/bVV2Zk88beY/w-d-xo.html ), she said a lot of things about the engagement she had had from other individuals, but said nothing about God having intervened. I actually don't know what her beliefs are in this regard... but I ask, nevertheless,... If compassionate human interactions are an essential component of such a transformation, does prayer actually do any good?
Please understand that my intent is not to disabuse you of your belief in God or intercessory prayer, but only to make the point that prayer by itself is at minimum insufficient, if not wholly unnecessary. There is a direct role for us ordinary humans to play, and in my view, we must all fulfill that obligation to the best of our ability, not merely by "thoughts and prayers", but through actual civic and civil engagement.
Love how Louis burns Phelps with the timing of the interview 😂
Was asked for five minutes, pretended it was 15, actually gave him two
2:45 The bit where Fred gets owned.
Look in the dictionary you’ll see the pastors face in the word narcissist. Wow just wow!!
"Ya gonna EAT yo' BABIES!" 👶 🍔
This is malignant narcissism in action
Dude sounds like Charles Manson when he talks.
theroux is just unlike any other reporter
he's just head and shoulders above the rest
like a genre in itself
you can't help but love this guy
It’s gonzo style journalism
Absolute madman
"ok this is about 15 minutes" uh?
The way he says “Stupidity” with that emphasis is damn artistic lol
Scarier than the prisons
I love how defensive Phelps got with "You're too dumb. Sorry"
Interesting fact about Fred Phelps.
Apparently he was excommunicated from Westboro near the end of his life. He was apparently suffering from dementia and called out to some activists who bought a house across the street from the church (and who had a gay pride flag flying outside) and told them they were “good people.” The church considered this blasphemy and excommunicated him.
There’s something in the thought that, despite how thoroughly evil this man was, he somehow discovered compassion towards the end of his life. He didn’t deserve redemption and he gets 0 sympathy from me for all the horrendous things he did and the hatred he spread, but somehow maybe he discovered just a crumb of goodness on that black old heart towards his end.
Really? Where's the link to that information or video?
Or he just got confused and thought all protesters were by default Westboro Church protesters. His church uses rainbow background on a bunch of their placards... but it could be simpler than that. He could have been at a point where he could recognise what a protest was, but not comprehend that there could be any kind of protest expect his church protesting funerals etc. They were good people for protesting, in his mind. Maybe.
Let's face it. By this time, Phelps had gone so barmy he would probably have kissed Mel Gibson on the lips.
You're gunna eat you're babies!!!
Louis is like the Peter Falk Colombo character. So self deprecating that he is mistaken for being dumb when he is actually asking deep and probing questions.
The more I watch this clip the more I'm convinced that this guy had undiagnosed dementia...
"You are to dumb" louis then gos to totally show him up with simple math 🤣🤣🤣
Isn't arrogance also considered a sin?
Just realized this is the "my money dont jiggle jiggle, it fold" guy
Christ, it's all the kiddies wandering around in the background I feel sorry for. Imagine growing up in that environment of pure hate...
You may laugh at him, BBC, but he reveals something about the nature of power. This man is the ruler of his kingdom, and outside that he knows nothing. What most people can never accept is that this is repeated with every granfalloon in existence.
Imagine Phelps as president lol
Man, this pastor was beyond ridiculous! 🤯
He actually made friends with the gay couple across his street. He saw the error of his ways and was disowned by the church before he died.
Now that is a real man of God.
Pronouns was/were/burning/in hell
How can people sit there and listen to that man preach straight faced.
Well at least they ended on friendly terms 😁
What pastor of god says “good luck” ? Hmmmm
Wait, so this guy was one of the chosen ones and went to heaven??? Then I won't go anywhere near there!
This video was clearly censored because he talked for 15 minutes. Where's the rest?
He dismisses him, calls him dumb, because he knows he's smarter than him. He can win any argument by claiming the other party is stupid. He is a charismatic, delusional manipulator
"I'm not gonna keep on talking to ya.....I gotta go and count my millions and I ain't gonna make a dime outta you''
Did he really say that??
@@jro2231 ronnie pickering
Lives in a completely irrational world and brainwashes others; HE needs to live in the real world
i remember when phelps videos were all over youtube years ago, until youtube pulled them all due to censorship.
Thank god Michael Phelps left that toxic environment.