The Punisher has more range than one might think. It's definitely more than shotguns in games usually have. And its pushback is just lovely when you just feel like you need some space.
That's what I love about it. It's not just some gun that magically turns it's projectiles into confetti when enemies are just out of range. You can still do damage despite the seemingly longer ranges
Some updates: the slugger recieved nerf where it no longer staggers, and light penatration and reduced damage. It is almost weaker than all the other shotguns.
Thats a lie, it 100% still has medium armor penetration, with a light amount of stagger still. Stagger and damage were toned down but that was it. Everyones so quick to assume a weapon is worthless the second its nerfed. Slugger still packs a punch
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero yeah i still use the Slugger 99% of the time when doing bot missions. even with groups with good aim can take out devastators in one hit, and it pierces through multiple of the smaller bots too
I just tried the Slugger but I feel like it doesn't do much. Maybe I'm used to faster firing weapons as well, but I feel like the Slugger didn't do as much damage as I expected and I just have better options.
Ive yet to find a reason tonstop using the punisher. Crowd control and gnarly damage, single round loading that lets me top off on the fly. Its just too good
@@paradoxequinox4104 The slugger is great against automatons, the breaker is the best when you get swarmed by bugs due to way more DPS. The single-use case that the punisher excels inn is killing stalkers. That pushback is king.
Punisher is universally good. Chain stagger Devastators until you can either bisect them or until you tap their head with it (don't spray and pray for the second option). I've killed the riot shield devastators with it too. Hell, I've headshot HULKS with it. The only things I wouldn't bother using it on are chargers and bile titans, and honestly those are the two enemies I pull out an EAT for. Drop ships don't count, they don't shoot back
You definitely can juggle a charger with the punisher. Just takes some time, but will run him down eventually if you don't have any other options available.
People dislike reloading single shots, but one of the biggest upsides is that I can chamber 3 shells, fire them off, and while you're still reloading one magazine, I can at least defend myself. A downside for a very nice upside.
Higher magazine capacity than the standard Breaker too! The lingering fire can save you ammo, also I run incendiary grenades as the fire spread is nice and lasts long enough to take out enemies that walk through it after the blast.
Slugger is the only primary that can blast open those subterranean container doors that have loot. Even nerfed, Breaker is still an excellent weapon. Damn, I miss those extra mag rounds though!
@@duduman05 it still good, I don’t don’t think it needed the clip nerf. I’m fine with the recoil being cranked up. I’m currently in love with the scythe. But also glad the incendiary shotty is useful now too.
Ist jetzt nichts was nicht ziemlich verständlich in der Beschreibung steht 😅 evetuell selbst mal etwas ausprobieren, dann weiß man das auch selbst... hauptsache den hype irgendwie ausnutzen..... kein wunder warum seid jahren immer mehr und immer nutzlosere guides zu absolut allem gemacht werden..... GIER..... wenn man sowas hört, wie im video denkt man sich manchmal dass nur blinde und anderweitig beeinträchtigte Menschen dieses Spiel spielen 🤦♂️ naja.... immerhin kommentiere ich den blödsinn hier.... und an eurer abgestumpftheit wird das leider auch nix ändern....wie wäre es mit einem guide zum tutorial 😂 oder ein guide zum starten den spiels 😅 oder warte.... einfach alle Anzug Beschreibungen vorlesen...könnt ja sein dass man zu doof ist.....🤦♂️ leider ist es scheinbar tatsächlich so..... oha.... mit euch soll ich seite an seite kämpfen? Mit leuten, die nicht mal ihre waffen kennen? 😅 ✌ for Superearth.... so oder so, kämpfen und sterben wir zusammen....also egal ^^ jeder so wie er will 😘
I've always found the Punisher to be the goat of shotguns in Helldivers 2. Sure the Breaker is semi-auto, but you need atleast 2-3 shots to do what the Punisher does in 1
Ähm....soweit ich weiß gibt es nicht so viele.....😅 einfach mal rumprobieren, dann weiß man auch selbst was einem gut liegt. Ich brauche Kammeraden, die sich zumindest selbst den Arsch wischen können und keine Babys, denen man sagen muss wie man kämpft.....😂 was soll ich mit der Info anfangen dass jemand für 2 Pistolen einen guide braucht? Macht mir Angst! Geh da raus und trainiere Soldat!!!
Was looking for this comment. Started using the slugger yesterday and I never want to stop. Being able to crit armored bots down at mid range is so nice.
The Punisher has a special place in my heart, even against armoured foes it does a good job at hitting weak points. I've bisected more than a few Berserkers with it. Good for both bots and bugs, a good workhorse of a gun.
The slugger has more range than any of these on the list, and I find it great for killing automatons especially since it can stagger them being that if you hit the shoulder of the shield devastator’s they will stagger, and you will have a good window to do damage.
If you use the slugger at close range, especially on weak enemies, the slug can penetrate enemies and get collaterals. Also if you are a stealth player it’s probably the best option for OHKOs rn
I just tried the Slugger but I feel like it doesn't do much. Maybe I'm used to faster firing weapons as well, but I feel like the Slugger didn't do as much damage as I expected and I just have better options.
Shotgun tier list. S Incindiery breaker. A Slugger, breaker. B plasma shotgun, spray and pray, and arc shotgun. C Punisher. Shotguns better suited with terminids: Incindiery breaker, spray and pray, punisher, breaker. Automatons. Slugger, arc shotgun, and plasma shotgun.
Going anywhere in any bug mission without a Punisher Shotgun is a no from me, cuz the sheer stagger that thing causes enemies is chefs kiss (looking at you spewers and brood commanders)
Noice, the punisher and breaker are the same from the first game but the breaker in that game has big spread and pretty short range and punisher doesnt pushback
The longevity, stagger, and power of the punisher is probably what I like most about it. I can go a really long time without a resupply. If I use the auto cannon properly, I can do even somewhat hard difficulties like 7 without ever needing a resupply.
Slugger is always my prefered choice when fighting against the bots, i love to see my teammates reactions after they see me two shotting a shielder like if it was nothing
The punisher is my go to. Its powerful stagger makes it a wonderful weapon to halt the progress of Automaton berserkers as well. It has saved my life and the lives of my fellow divers many times
I wanna speak my praise of the Punisher I've noticed that when using it i've not really had to keep my sidearm for mid range fights like I thought I would. In fact I think it's a better anti bot weapon than anti bug so far (for me). It's grouping is still tight enough to use at a modest range of 30-ish meters. (up to 40-50 depending on group/enemy size and armor composition) It's been efficient on my learning on level 1-4 bot n bug missions what kinda does what *to what*. Now duh, I can't speak for high level. But all I hear everyone say is that high level bot missions is primarily devastators (not counting the heavy spawns and emplacements), but it still seems fine against the assorted "chaff" you fight on all difficulties. Raiders are so thin it can actually chew through and suppress them while you shoot at a Devastator or two in the middle of the group; Which you can kill in 2/3 hits to the stomach at short range, 4 if you are u lucky or are going for the legs instead. [If you're point blank you can split both devastators and berserkers in half with 2 with stomach shots] Pause. It of course breaks the head of Devs in 1 or 2 pretty easily. Hate all Commisars. Bullet in my back. And I forgot the most important thing for some reason: You can stagger all these medium and smaller enemies if you aim for the stomachs where almost every small/mid bot is thinnest, or the heads/shoulders to hit the joints/guns + stopping raiders from shooting accurately with the spread suppression and death as even at range a few shots will kill a comparative number of grouped raiders, while always chippint at whatever distinct part of a Devastator you're actually aiming for. It's a sick mid range weapon to force small bots to hide and hold big ones still for teammates or stratagems to handle. (I wanna add there is a spot where I have been able to kill devastators with the liberator without head popping, somewhere weird around the 'back plate' around the head and connecting to the shoulder, was able to kill with the Libb shooting there.) I joined the game half way into the 2 million bot order, I have pretty much fought nothing but terminators, some of it solo, for 4 days. LET ME OUT.
The Punisher has more range than one might think. It's definitely more than shotguns in games usually have. And its pushback is just lovely when you just feel like you need some space.
That's what I love about it. It's not just some gun that magically turns it's projectiles into confetti when enemies are just out of range. You can still do damage despite the seemingly longer ranges
love it, it feels like how a real shotgun works
fr i used the punisher until level 30. it is truly the goat
I use it for sniping against bugs and it does a decent job
Completely agree, I’m lvl 28 and no other gun works for me quite as well as the ole punisher 🫡
Punisher and Slugger are my favorites.
just wished they had more ammo most of the time im running out of ammo more than just using a rifle
@@frealsolidusauxil5873always route through points of interest. thats the way to be independent from the supply pod
@@frealsolidusauxil5873- because they have tube magazines, you can reload whenever without loosing rounds. Just constantly reload it.
@@frealsolidusauxil5873dang you're great at wasting ammo
Damn near the same gun.
The Breaker is the workhorse of them all, putting in the work against Bugs.
Not anymore since the nerf
@@BruceWayne-qx5lytbh in never liked it personally. I always preferred the punishers
@@roonilwazlib2572is it actually meh now
@@roachies4242it was unbelievably good, but now it's a decent implement. it's not great, but it's far from being terrible.
Solid gun tbh. Magazine fed. Still hits at range, to a point, and decent fire rate. Honestly my go to 🤙
Punisher is your space maker.
Slugger is your can opener.
And breaker is that vacuum cleaner that you never use
There literally is no difference besides range
@@gggggggz5pretty sure the slugger has more armor penetration but less damage because of it
@@gggggggz5unless a balance patch changed it since I haven't played in a minute
Meanwhile me with a punisher running towards enemies: Space maker???
The punisher is the premier "oh shit there's a berserker next to me" weapon
hardly
that would be the domi
Some updates: the slugger recieved nerf where it no longer staggers, and light penatration and reduced damage. It is almost weaker than all the other shotguns.
I thought it was nerfed but still medium pen
Thats a lie, it 100% still has medium armor penetration, with a light amount of stagger still. Stagger and damage were toned down but that was it.
Everyones so quick to assume a weapon is worthless the second its nerfed. Slugger still packs a punch
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero yeah i still use the Slugger 99% of the time when doing bot missions. even with groups with good aim can take out devastators in one hit, and it pierces through multiple of the smaller bots too
Skill issue dude.
I just tried the Slugger but I feel like it doesn't do much. Maybe I'm used to faster firing weapons as well, but I feel like the Slugger didn't do as much damage as I expected and I just have better options.
Yea ok, sweet...*continues to use the sickle*
Ive yet to find a reason tonstop using the punisher. Crowd control and gnarly damage, single round loading that lets me top off on the fly. Its just too good
That's what I've been feeling. When I've tried the different breakers they felt like a let down.
The slugger is just better
@@paradoxequinox4104 The slugger is great against automatons, the breaker is the best when you get swarmed by bugs due to way more DPS.
The single-use case that the punisher excels inn is killing stalkers. That pushback is king.
@@Gerniazslugger still excels against bugs due to wiping brood commanders and hive guards like theyre not armored
Playing above difficulty 5 for one
Punisher is universally good. Chain stagger Devastators until you can either bisect them or until you tap their head with it (don't spray and pray for the second option). I've killed the riot shield devastators with it too. Hell, I've headshot HULKS with it.
The only things I wouldn't bother using it on are chargers and bile titans, and honestly those are the two enemies I pull out an EAT for. Drop ships don't count, they don't shoot back
You definitely can juggle a charger with the punisher. Just takes some time, but will run him down eventually if you don't have any other options available.
Drop ships count, they drop things that shoot back
@@azraelsoulreaper1013 Yes, but most of the things they drop are not shotgun-proof.
People dislike reloading single shots, but one of the biggest upsides is that I can chamber 3 shells, fire them off, and while you're still reloading one magazine, I can at least defend myself.
A downside for a very nice upside.
And you don't waste ammo by early reload
I've been loving the Punisher. Especially because it compliments my muscle memory of reloading every chance I get.
Breaker Incendiary users: So anyway I started blasting BANG💥 BANG🔥
Higher magazine capacity than the standard Breaker too! The lingering fire can save you ammo, also I run incendiary grenades as the fire spread is nice and lasts long enough to take out enemies that walk through it after the blast.
Slugger is the only primary that can blast open those subterranean container doors that have loot. Even nerfed, Breaker is still an excellent weapon. Damn, I miss those extra mag rounds though!
They fixed it man, i'm sorry.
Punisher has saved me from Stalkers more times than I can count
Agree! Same here. Huge stagger.
I don't even play the game, these vids are just so well made and informative i had to sub
You should, it’s a blast
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I love the slugger. It's like a sniper lol
slugger is the best gun in the game, especially if you use a mouse and are accurate.
i prefer the punisher against bugs because of huge damage and knockback/stag. Against bots i prefer the new laser.
IIRC slugs IRL are like uber powerful snipers with worse bullet drop, so it ain't far off.
Break-action is low-key a GOAT
Me when I come across one: welp! It's about time we flex our 2nd amendment and why we have no free medical care
No it is not
ive tried it myself, and all i can say is it's not horrible, but there's a reason you only find it next to a dead body
@@vanillavanil6976 Best way to describe it
@@ezrabaeza992 Idk what you mean, I can easily snipe melee devastators with it from 50m
THE BREAKER DIDNT NEED A NERF. Every other gun just needed a buff.
Agreed
The breaker's nerf wasn't even that bad, stop bitching
😂
I still rock with the breaker on the reg
@@duduman05 it still good, I don’t don’t think it needed the clip nerf. I’m fine with the recoil being cranked up. I’m currently in love with the scythe. But also glad the incendiary shotty is useful now too.
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Ist jetzt nichts was nicht ziemlich verständlich in der Beschreibung steht 😅 evetuell selbst mal etwas ausprobieren, dann weiß man das auch selbst... hauptsache den hype irgendwie ausnutzen..... kein wunder warum seid jahren immer mehr und immer nutzlosere guides zu absolut allem gemacht werden..... GIER..... wenn man sowas hört, wie im video denkt man sich manchmal dass nur blinde und anderweitig beeinträchtigte Menschen dieses Spiel spielen 🤦♂️ naja.... immerhin kommentiere ich den blödsinn hier.... und an eurer abgestumpftheit wird das leider auch nix ändern....wie wäre es mit einem guide zum tutorial 😂 oder ein guide zum starten den spiels 😅 oder warte.... einfach alle Anzug Beschreibungen vorlesen...könnt ja sein dass man zu doof ist.....🤦♂️ leider ist es scheinbar tatsächlich so..... oha.... mit euch soll ich seite an seite kämpfen? Mit leuten, die nicht mal ihre waffen kennen? 😅 ✌ for Superearth.... so oder so, kämpfen und sterben wir zusammen....also egal ^^ jeder so wie er will 😘
Punisher is the GOAT. Nothing like using the knockback to stunlock a group of bugs under your eagle call-in
I've always found the Punisher to be the goat of shotguns in Helldivers 2. Sure the Breaker is semi-auto, but you need atleast 2-3 shots to do what the Punisher does in 1
Punisher my beloved.
Should've ended this with the "would you like to know more?" Line from Starship Troopers
Slugger paired with the auto cannon are a beautiful thing.
Awesome, thanks for taking upon the suggestion!
Next, pistols please!
Ähm....soweit ich weiß gibt es nicht so viele.....😅 einfach mal rumprobieren, dann weiß man auch selbst was einem gut liegt. Ich brauche Kammeraden, die sich zumindest selbst den Arsch wischen können und keine Babys, denen man sagen muss wie man kämpft.....😂 was soll ich mit der Info anfangen dass jemand für 2 Pistolen einen guide braucht? Macht mir Angst! Geh da raus und trainiere Soldat!!!
@@bansen9524only really one that is good tho. So would be a short guide.
There are only 4! The game needs more armor-piercing options.
Slugger is bae
Was looking for this comment. Started using the slugger yesterday and I never want to stop. Being able to crit armored bots down at mid range is so nice.
The Punisher has a special place in my heart, even against armoured foes it does a good job at hitting weak points.
I've bisected more than a few Berserkers with it.
Good for both bots and bugs, a good workhorse of a gun.
The punisher pushing back stalkers, the slugger stunning devastators. These are the things that make it feel like Christmas came early.
Im really loving these style of videos on the guns and how they work in game! Would love to see more as you test more weapons!
I like the plasma one to become a plasma mortar. Is it effective? Sometimes. Is it funny? Yes.
What about the bracke achin shot gun
dude i love your videos
I wish I could make different build outs for different enemies
The slugger has more range than any of these on the list, and I find it great for killing automatons especially since it can stagger them being that if you hit the shoulder of the shield devastator’s they will stagger, and you will have a good window to do damage.
I think Punisher has greater damage and stagger.
The Breaker got me through those early bot dives. Feels absolutely amazing to dismantle enemies
If you use the slugger at close range, especially on weak enemies, the slug can penetrate enemies and get collaterals. Also if you are a stealth player it’s probably the best option for OHKOs rn
is this guy zerkovich
???
Breaker above all if you think differently that’s probably why you’re dying
Punisher is really good against bigger Automotons
I just tried the Slugger but I feel like it doesn't do much. Maybe I'm used to faster firing weapons as well, but I feel like the Slugger didn't do as much damage as I expected and I just have better options.
The Punisher also shoots the Devastators with shields shield open for someone else to shoot in and can permastagger them.
Shotgun tier list.
S Incindiery breaker.
A Slugger, breaker.
B plasma shotgun, spray and pray, and arc shotgun.
C Punisher.
Shotguns better suited with terminids: Incindiery breaker, spray and pray, punisher, breaker.
Automatons. Slugger, arc shotgun, and plasma shotgun.
Breaker is my go to for bugs. A laser guard dog to watch my back and an auto shotty in my hands makes me a crowd control menace.
The Breaker Incendiary is the best gun in the game in my opinion.
Breaker is my goto. Great crowd control when the hunters are crowding in groups
Going anywhere in any bug mission without a Punisher Shotgun is a no from me, cuz the sheer stagger that thing causes enemies is chefs kiss (looking at you spewers and brood commanders)
Noice, the punisher and breaker are the same from the first game but the breaker in that game has big spread and pretty short range and punisher doesnt pushback
The Punisher does push back
@@Auvas_Damask really? I just 2 shot just about everything or unload 8 on a stationary target like the guy with a minigun and shield
@@bapbop2399 You can see in the video it stunlocking the absolute shit out of a stalker
@@NeoCreo1 HELLDIVER DIVE HARDER NOT HELLDIVER 2 DAMN IT
Anything you can load shells into makes the game play much smoother
Slugger takes me.back to g.o.w. gnasher
Breaker was an absolute beast if a stagger before nerfs
Very nice, thank you for the info
Stalkers and spewers wince at the sight of the slugger
Slugger is my favorite gun at the moment, so useful against both bots and bugs.
The longevity, stagger, and power of the punisher is probably what I like most about it. I can go a really long time without a resupply. If I use the auto cannon properly, I can do even somewhat hard difficulties like 7 without ever needing a resupply.
I'm the freak who loves the Arc-Blitzer
I only use punisher and slugger, the stagger is just so good
Breaker for bugs and slugger for bots are my go-to
used the punisher once, decided that theres just to many bugs, returned to breaker
"The slugger is basically a bolt action rifle"
Literally pump action
The difference is, the punisher and slugger are the best. Former for bugs, latter for bots.
Never knew the slugger had armor pen, I gotta get that now
I like the breaker incinderary for bugs
"Up close and personal"
Why would I do that when shotguns are basically sniper rifles 😂
Blitzer against bugs is crazy good
They killed my slugger
Slugger is always my prefered choice when fighting against the bots, i love to see my teammates reactions after they see me two shotting a shielder like if it was nothing
Punisher always. Surprising range, round reload makes it very ammo efficient, and it’s pretty accurate
You forgot Spray N Pray which is a powerhouse light armor eradicator. 26 magazine with 8 reserve absolutely ridiculously useful shotgun
RIP Slugger
I remember the Breaker before the nerfs 🥲
Oh, the stagger is why the punisher feels so good!
Been messing around with the breaker, but the unreleased medium armor version and I'm hyped for it's full release it's awesome.
forgot to mention the Slugger can blast the doors off of the conex containers hat hold items in them. good primary to save grenades on that
Love the slugger for automatons. You can stun lock devastators and one shot them if you get the headshot
Punisher is my favourite as it makes me feel like i'm using a bolter
Slugger to take care of medium armored enemies, and stalwart with supply pack for crowd control ✨
Punisher for bugs, Slugger for bots.
slugger was amazing and then while nerfing they thought "the giant chunk of metal in this should feel like 9mm so lets not have stagger"
If the slugger has 0 fans I’m dead
Slugger got neutered punisher is insane now
I use scorcher for the bots I hip fire the spray and pray for the bugs.
Breaker incendiary is my current favorite.
Slugger makes me want a Western style carbine rifle to go with my revolver
A lever action repeating rifle kinda vibe? Winchester op
My poor slugger is sad after the nerf.
I like the spray and pray my self.
the breaker is good for reloading after every 2.1 seconds due to lack of mag size
ARC goes BRRRRRRRRRRZ
I love the Punisher because I don't have to worry about wasting ammo on reloads, and the knockback is great crowd control
The shotguns are effective are further ranges that in most games in my experience. Which is nice to have a shotgun that works well after 6 feet.
The punisher is my go to. Its powerful stagger makes it a wonderful weapon to halt the progress of Automaton berserkers as well. It has saved my life and the lives of my fellow divers many times
The punisher can hit quite a bit further than it probably should. Combining that with the stun, it’s quite good at stopping a charge.
I love running Auto Cannon/AMR and the Punisher is my go to Secondary.
Would be interesting to include the double barrel shotgun
THE SHREIKER IS REA-[This document has been classified by the ministry of truth.]
the SLUGGER was a waste of Medals
Breaker is only shotty reload speed makes it the GOAT.
I wanna speak my praise of the Punisher I've noticed that when using it i've not really had to keep my sidearm for mid range fights like I thought I would. In fact I think it's a better anti bot weapon than anti bug so far (for me).
It's grouping is still tight enough to use at a modest range of 30-ish meters. (up to 40-50 depending on group/enemy size and armor composition)
It's been efficient on my learning on level 1-4 bot n bug missions what kinda does what *to what*.
Now duh, I can't speak for high level. But all I hear everyone say is that high level bot missions is primarily devastators (not counting the heavy spawns and emplacements), but it still seems fine against the assorted "chaff" you fight on all difficulties.
Raiders are so thin it can actually chew through and suppress them while you shoot at a Devastator or two in the middle of the group; Which you can kill in 2/3 hits to the stomach at short range, 4 if you are u lucky or are going for the legs instead.
[If you're point blank you can split both devastators and berserkers in half with 2 with stomach shots] Pause.
It of course breaks the head of Devs in 1 or 2 pretty easily.
Hate all Commisars. Bullet in my back.
And I forgot the most important thing for some reason: You can stagger all these medium and smaller enemies if you aim for the stomachs where almost every small/mid bot is thinnest, or the heads/shoulders to hit the joints/guns + stopping raiders from shooting accurately with the spread suppression and death as even at range a few shots will kill a comparative number of grouped raiders, while always chippint at whatever distinct part of a Devastator you're actually aiming for. It's a sick mid range weapon to force small bots to hide and hold big ones still for teammates or stratagems to handle.
(I wanna add there is a spot where I have been able to kill devastators with the liberator without head popping, somewhere weird around the 'back plate' around the head and connecting to the shoulder, was able to kill with the Libb shooting there.)
I joined the game half way into the 2 million bot order, I have pretty much fought nothing but terminators, some of it solo, for 4 days.
LET ME OUT.
This game does shotguns justice
punisher vs breaker is basically control vs dmg output regardless of what version you wanna use
The punisher got some range though
If only the breaker didn't have to be reloaded every 3 seconds it would be the goat