Why this goofy ass snail tank was actually TERRIFYING
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- On today's Star Wars video we take a look at the NR-N99 Persuader-class droid enforcer, which I like to call the slug tank. We'll break down its use during the Clone Wars, and more, on today's Star Wars lore video!
Pilotable Snail Droid (Persuader Class) | STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT II (2017)
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Ah yes, the Persuader.
What's it called when you ask for something? Suggestion
What's it called when you ask for something while pointing a gun at their head?
*Persuasion*
The Offer-You-Can't-Refuse-Maker
@@terencetsang9518 *Offer-You-Can't-Refuse-inator
@@5peciesunkn0wn great now we need a platypus to stop these things
@@traviskrebs7551 a normal platypus?
Obi Wan's Venator is called the Negotiator if im not mistaken.
This Tank is awesome. Honestly the Droid army is my favorite. It's unique, diverse, and is a great example of visual story telling. So many different Droid types showcasing different separatist groups
Yeah they all feel like unique robots redesigned for war or cheap bots designed for mass supply of troops. It’s super interesting.
The Droid Army is indeed my favorite military in all of Star Wars. But this Snail Tank's design is somewhat deficient IMO.
Those fixed forward facing cannons have a small firing arc. I don't see any rotating turrets in it, it's profile is very narrow, but tall, meaning it will may have difficulty with soft terrain.
It likewise has a big side profile, so flanking shots on it will be very dangerous, as it is one big target. It's much more dependent on having its flanks protected than most other tanks.
I like the design, but I feel it's deficient and focused too much on frontal assault.
I like how untraditional Lucas Films went with the CIS designs. Made them feel incredibly unique
Same
I think it is a great Star Wars vehicle design.
This and the HMP. Both were absolute powerhouses in the CIS Arsenal.
Walmar
Ah, yes, the Escargot's Revenge.
5:48 I think you mistook which movie that toy was for. Instead of episode III it must be the Clone Wars movie. Beyond the fact that it shows Ahsoka's Starfigher on the box, the movies logo is right there (I saw the Ahsoka thing first and that really triggers me)
Ah yes, the tank which you could destroy with a simple pistol sidearm in SWBF2 by shooting the back wheel.
Goofy ahh tank
It’s always the funny looking droids that are the most deadly. Like the Dwarf Spider Droid
Droidekas are pretty goofy looking to
Dwarfs have gotta be my fav droid tbh, can be some damn good flak and can do some mean armor damage in mass
I always thought the homing spider droid was ridiculous looking too even tho it’s deadly
Bruh Dwarf Spider Droids were an absolute menace in Republic Commando. Do-able with patience and ammo, but a complete nightmare for an under equipped squad. I can only imagine what the regs thought of them.
@@generalsodapop3530 I totally forgot about how much of a pain they were in commando bro😭
For turning, I always figured the outriggers could slightly lift the front of the body up a bit, so you still have the center-tread pushing at the rear, but the rest of it is maybe an inch or two above the ground so the outrigger treads can turn it more freely, before dropping it back down when they want a straight-line and maximum speed/traction.
Good thinking!
Genius!
Or have the "tail" of the tank lift slightly so you're turning a much shorter wheelbase. Plus the rear looks lighter than the front.
Some tracked vehices like the British WW2 Universal Carrier (sometimes Bren gun carrier) employed track warping, literally curving the track in order to steer.
@@CrimsonRoamer8there’s a reason nobody has seen them in a battlefield game
20 feet tall?? That's insane. It doesn't appear to be THAT tall
I looked it up and 6 meters is over 19 feet tall. If "over 6 meters tall" came out of an official Star Wars fact book or website then yea, it's about 20 feet tall. The people brining the thing to size just didn't make it look as massive as it should be I guess.
It's a lot bigger in a deleted scene from Attack of the Clones where they run over clones on Geonosis.
About the height of a Sherman, so not really all that outrageous.
Those 2 antennas sticking up on either side probably give them that 20 foot height
@@setesh1294 The M4 sherman was 20 feet _LONG_, not tall. They stand between 9 and 10 feet tall, about a person an a half. This droid would be 3-4 people tall.
I always thought they were called Snail Droids ... cause you know ... Crab Droids, Spider Droids.
Sure not very creative if they still have crabs, spiders, and snails in the SW galaxy.
But I would like to see an acklay droid. Or something even worse ... a sarlacc droid.
I like the unusual design. Better than just your normal tank+turret. I have to say the separatists had a tendency to create dangerous weapons with huge limitations.
In star wars it practically seems to be the law of the universe just like the speed of light or gravity that whenever engineers are on the cusp of designing something that is actually practical, like a proper tank instead of yet another stupid walker, something will always compell them to gimp their design if doesn't quite satisfy the rule of cool.
In this case, the force itself intervened somehow to make the seperatist engineers decide to forgo including a proper turret so that their heavily armed death snail has to turn its whole body just to aim its weapons at something like a ww2 Stug gun. But at least the rule of cool requirements imposed on the galaxy by the eldrtich gods of SW are satisfied, so that's okay. XD
Few of the walkers were stupid though.
@@Kyzen_Wrell As I see it, the iconic AT-AT itself is downright stupid, considering all its limiting factors, how utterly impractical it was and how limited its potential usage as anything other than a weapon of terror was.
@@7ElevenTruther Well, the StuG at least had two tracks, could turn on the spot and was generally quite nimble for a tank. Also, it had a low profile and was deadly as a tank killer. Nothing of those things is true for the death snail. It's not 'terrifying', the only thing that made it terrifying is the way how it's used - but the same thing can be said about a wrecking ball that was set on fire and then rolled through a kindergarten.
And yes, I agree, many designs in Star Wars are silly or even utterly stupid. The one thing that is bugging me the most, apart from the AT-AT, is the Tie fighter. Hey, we have an actually at least decent design here, one that is powered by a fusion reaction that most likely can power this thing for years, so... maybe we should ad _solar panels_ to it, which will deliver absolutely zero energy under most operating conditions, not barely enough to illuminate at least the glove compartment when it does _and_ restricts the pilots view so much, he could just as well fly with a letterbox on his head. I just can't... how... why...?
@@Furzkampfbomber Oh no, not disagreeing there. I meant other walkers like AT-TE, AT-AP, AT-MP that were good.
Based off designs we see I'm pretty certain that those training wheel tracks to either side are the only way it can actually turn turn. I thought at first that the center track consisted of 2 tracks that could move separately if needed but nothing I've seen suggests it is capable of that.
Yep, nope, it's an extra-spooky snowmobile.
@@Yawyna124 Yup the worst snowmobiles ever seeing as they suck on anything not paved.
I know I for one wouldn't want to be a clone standing infront of it
What's really interesting is that in the Episode 2 attack of the clones, Snail Tanks were present as some of the unfinished CGI tanks so creativity wise LucasArts had the idea of the tank super early on.
I fondly remember driving it in the original battlefront ll.
@@michaelandreipalon359 yes
Only if Dave filoni had it in the clone wars Series for more lore and EA BF2, I on a neutral end of EA BF2 and BF1 games that was the only licensed star wars with multiplayer
@@siegel947 it appeared in season 7.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
What episode? I must have not seen it and skipped episodes of those clown sister for the last few Clone Wars Episodes
@@siegel947 the episode is titled "old friends not forgotten."
You're correct Eck, if you destroy the central tread... it's mobility is greatly reduced... those side tracks just don't have the power to move the entire thing forward. I do think they are there to steer the Snail Tank, otherwise it can only move in one direction, forward... possible backwards.
It does need an armor shell over the central tread. Possibly some ray shielding too.
A tank really does not want to expose its treads to enemy fire. They are made from a lot of linkages, pins, and pivots. Regardless of tech level, a solid slab of armor would be tougher than your tread.
One of the worst parts about the front having the wheel is that is can also disperse small arms blaster damage because it constantly rotated it as it moves forward, so you’d need something that can one shot the tracks.
And depending on the terrain beneath it, it can actually be even harder if it is constantly covered in fresh layers of mud or soaked in water.
Or you can just hit the damn thing in its thin-looking ass side.
@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 It’s rolling down the damn street. With support.
@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436
Even a clone sharpshooter can incapacitated that tank with ease
@Siegel a clone sharp shooter doesn't carry a weapon with that much of a punch, he could blind the tank, but if that's how you fight it then you have to face the fact they are droids, and can rely information to eachother as if they have the same eyes
There's no lack of mobility, the Tank Droid seems to turn just fine in that mod footage
that's also a game, where stats are adjusted for game balance reasons.
The title is so accurate and I LOVE it.
It wasn’t until about WW II (and more towards the middle of it) that neutral steering for tanks became standard. And even then, IIRC some postwar tanks still couldn’t. The other way to steer was either to increase power on one side or brake on one side. Pretty sure that’s how this thing turns
#askeck did the New Republic switch to more proper military ground vehicle force and if so, what vehicles did they use that differed from the Rebel Alliance?
Lore ship Versus video request:
Resurgent vs. Starhawk
Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing
World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship
Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail
Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version)
Keldabe vs. ISD II
MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer
Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class
Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser
EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator
Praetor vs. Subjugator
EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent
Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III
It seems like it would best for urban, plains, and siege combat
Lacking a turret makes it too vulnerable for urban personally.
It would be really bad for all three. Much too tall for plains (you'd see it over the horizon), too tall and no turret for urban engagements (it couldn't turn to fire into reinforced buildings and pillboxes), and not enough armor for siege warfare (any severe physical force will destroy those treads instantly and the underside would be motive tech, not armor).
Running over protestors is probably what it's best at.
Well, as mentioned, it’s primary use was for running over/into things.. and mostly meant for use against civilians
@@StarkSpider24 It's perfectly proportioned to be absolutely terrible at fighting civilians. Civilians fight as guerillas when they fight at all, and the snail tank is designed in a way that it would be absolutely terrible at fighting against guerillas.
Funniest title uve ever put up shit made me laugh😂
There seriously needs to be a Star Wars museum somewhere with life sized versions of various things from the universe. It would be the coolest museum ever. And it would undoubtedly be successful.
Start the GoFundMe. Let’s do this
I always loved the design of the tank droid.
Not a great arc of fire for those fixed forward guns.
I love the voice this droid has in Galactic Battlegrounds. Interestingly enough, that game puts the Tank Droid on par with the AT-TE and AT-AT in terms of general power. Obviously the game mechanics aren't true to lore, but I think it's cool
@@painfulstinger4911 Personally, I think the Octuptarra droid from RotS would fit in nicely. Since the theme of the Confederacy mechs is droid walkers. But neither the Super Tank nor the Octuptarra existed at the time the game was made, and the Expanding Fronts team aren't the type to make arbitrary changes
Placing the Snail Tank Droid on par with the AT-TE isn't too far of a stretch imo. But against an AT-AT, that's too much.
@Painfulstinger Lore wise; if a Persuader manged to get a pot shot on the AT-AT's "neck," that could result in a critical hit. Easier said than done.
@Peppered Ash it really is, the ATTE is a lot bigger and tougher, not as much as the atat, but more then enough for all 3 to be equivalents is off
@Painfulstinger Same here. Just giving the game the benefit of the doubt that a Persuader _could_ land a critical hit on an AT-AT, albeit unlikely.
Ah yes, the War Crime Slug (WCS). My favourite CIS tank droid. Thank you for the lore dump. I fear this thing even more now.
my God i LOVE that name 😂
5:45 this tank droid toy came out in 2009 for "the clone wars" movie, I should know I had one as a kid. Plus it has the yellow title 2008-10 compared to other clone wars title which was white 2003+
This Tank honestly reminds me of some early WW1 Tanks.
The Tsar tank
Ah yes, the rhombus.
did you cancel "star wordle" or what? its been down for like a week now.
Good for getting through narrow streets yes. And because it's so tall, it's a good target.
It looks perfect for a battlefront 3 plus it looks good for player transport 2 on each side and one player controling it
My inner rage at my stupid clones from FOTR not move while getting ran over by these damn snail tanks BLAZES IN FURY.
For me, that vehicle is a bit hard to control...
@@michaelandreipalon359 BF2 (Old one)
I still remember the Xbox Kinect Star Wars game, you get a good appreciation of the Tank Droid in that game.
Gotta love that BF2 footage where with the brand new super accurate graphics: They completely forget to animate the tread moving.
I had not 1 but 2 of these as LEGO kits. They were slightly different as I got them both as gifts a few years apart. They were fun sets! The single tread made it fun to play with
_Why does it have eyebrows_
Welp seems like "I won blah blah amount of none existent money" bots are now appearing once more.
Snail tank is also pretty convenient.
I totally solo'd these things as a jet trooper in BF2
I'm assuming the tank tread on either side turning opposite directions would allow it to turn.
This droid's original purpose was to deal with anyone or anything that dared to oppose or protest the Corporate Alliance, I wonder if the ones built during the war see enemy combatants as protestors? I mean, how much if any modifications did most CIS vehicles with droid brains get in terms of programing during the war?
Something interesting about the gunnery door is that in unfinished cgi footage for Revenge of the Sith we see a team of wookiees swing down onto a tank droid and pry open the door, revealing four crew member droids, and they blast the droids and take control of the tank and blast other tanks.
This thing would be awful in urban combat.
Yup. High target profile, exposed central tread, no side armor, fixed forward weapons and difficulty turning. This thing and every droid on it would be a sitting duck to a single Arc Trooper with an RPG. Not to mention the vulnerable sensor 'eyes' which we all know losing would instantly blind it because Star Wars.
Yeah, it definitely looks like it could even run over protesters deliberately blocking traffic type of vibe…
Honestly. Not every TH-cam has yo cover what is relevant. I know it's good for the algorithm. But it's a fresh breath to just watch whatever the creator most wants to post and care about. The in depth lore stuff just feels alot more interesting than another opinion or analysis on the current thing. (Side note: I have no problems with those vids and like and watch them. Just thought you may appreciate the feedback, if seen.)
5:57 Episode 3 had been out for a few years when that line of toys dropped. This is for the clone wars movie/first season
Interesting to note.
Obviously it won't be as advanced or visually similar, but the US military is prototyping an amphibious tread based lander that operates kind of like this tank.
I didn't even know bad batch had a s2, time to watch it on bflix 😂
These things were a blast in BFII. Loved rolling around Kashyyyk turning Clones into swiss cheese with the shotgun cannon.
If it was made on the cheap to bully citizens and militias, then yeah I'd do what the CEO's decided and buy the cheap option over a full, expensive MBT.
From an artistic perspective I love the design, as I do almost all the Clone Wars machines, but that being said the snail droid is a horribly designed war-fighting machine.
It feels like the spiritual precursor to the TIE Mauler (though the Mauler manages to be even worse).
5:47 I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT TOY!! I remember playing with it as a kid at my grandma's! Basically the lined design on the mid-back section of the tank would open and you could kinda just toss droids in there, it was hollow for just such a purpose!
Manuverability is unknown in star wars!
This might be a question that's been asked before, but why do we never see the corvettes, frigates, capital ships, etc. of the Rebel Alliance actually firing? I was watching Rogue One again and I realized how the Alliance could have sent their fighters to take down the ISD I's and just bombarded the shield gate. I understand to a point that there is cinematic reasoning, but it's obvious that perhaps if the Alliance had time to fill 1 U-Wing with troops, did they not have more lying around? And Blue Squadron likely could have gotten more fighters to the ground if they had waited to lock S-Foils before entering the gate. I don't know, I feel like this is me rambling at this point, but I feel like we forget in the films that Alliance sort of does what the Empire does in Legends, send in fighters and let them take care of the rest.
Ah yes. A "not very mobile, not agile, having difficulty with rough terrain tank".
Not to sound overly critical, but the writing for this piece of junk is absurd in the extreme. If the best aspect of your "tank" is that it can ram things sometimes, and that somehow makes it terrifying, then it is a poorly designed tank.
So lets break down the flaws of this thing. It has a very high silhouette, long profile, with mostly (gimble) fixed forward firing main guns regardless of configuration they only swivel up and down on a tank with otherwise poor turning ability, it's stupid for a droid vehicle, and it really prefers to ram things more than anything else.
This is not an effective tank. This is not an effective anything. The fact that it can move over water with relative ease is just about the only interesting or cool thing about it when we consider all the weird design choices that make this an extremely inefficient design. If our primary concern is 'terrifying infantry' there are many more cost effective ways to do that.
Sometimes I really wonder what the trade federation army would have looked like if the person who had designed the lucre hulk was in charge of general weapons development and aesthetics. By this I mean the art designer, because that person built up a whole reasonable lore around efficiency and multi-purpose designs. It is sort of weird seeing all the inefficient and poorly designed forces in the trade federation next to some very optimized and well thought out ones. Lucre hulks, droid tri-fighters, vultures, and the HMP droid gunship were all viable and versatile designs which seem to almost not fit with the goofy walkers, speeders, and tanks.
A truly absurd design. That track is so vulnerable. There's fantasy designs, and there's being so far from grounded engineering that you're entering orbit. The idea that these things were good in urban environs is a hilarious joke. Yeah sure, take a tank into the environment where it's most vulnerable to being sneak attacked by hostile infantry and then give it totally unprotected tracks. These things would have been slaughtered in urban fighting. At least put some armoured coverings over the track, please...but then how would you maintain the tracks? Hmmm. Looks like it's stupid all the way down.
Just press W to win, that's this tank's motto
It is a very distinctive design, but I think it would actually be pretty terrible in urban combat. Urban warfare is defined by flanking and verticality. A tank in those conditions is going to be taking shots from above, the sides, behind, and yet this thing can't turn well and has all of its weapons facing forward.
It is probably decent at navigating rubble and extremely rough terrain, though, so maybe you're supposed to flatten the city with artillery first and then drive it in?
Is it just me or does the track move in the old games but not in the new?
Seriously, EA sucks. It's plain obvious that they do not care about exactly such details.
Those details that make a world feel more real and alive.
I wonder how a traditional Earth _box on two treads with turret with big gun and smaller AP guns_ style Tank built with Star Wars tech would fair?
Would it, with all other things being equal, be a powerhouse that would dominate the battlefield?
So, this makes me realize (should have seen this years ago) that the hovertank is atypical in that it’s NOT a droid. Hell, even the capital ships have droid brains, if you want them to. Why is the hovertank not a droid, too?
The most terrifying part of this droid must be that it can slightly speed in school zones.
I think the turning problem might be solved if the central tread was actually two treads that could freely move in opposing directions, which wouldn't usually be visible anyways
I still think this is some of the more poorly designed CIS armour,
the unnecessarily high profile, exposed sensors, lack of mobility, lack of speed, completely front fixed weaponry and lack of AT capabilities really add up
although only if you ignore that treads are inherently superior to legs, which StarWars tends to do
So as an actual tanker, tanks turn by diverting more power to the drive sprocket on the side you’re turning into, this makes that track rotate faster than the opposite one and basically pulls/pivots the tank in that direction
There’s really no way the tank droid would be able to effectively turn irl
Eck, Can you please Cover the vindicator Class Heavy cruiser? It was my fav ship and I hope you will do A video on it soon
Great thumbnail Eck, was scrolling through my feed and got an audible laugh out of me.
I imagine this tank would look really really cool if the side treads were repulserlifts like a mox between a pod racer and tank, Personally I always loved the snail droid, and I prefer it to the ATT, I just in general like tanks that don't have a central gun, obviously it's great to have them on some designs, bit it makes the vehicle feel more advanced when it had a main cannon equivalent weapon that is a fraction the size of a normal main cannon
It definitely is pretty goofy. The limited field of fire for the cannons and inability of the eyes to look to the sides or rear are pretty bad.
Yeah, talking about that pre-release toy, It was actually supposed to be a Droid Tank like AAT, not a Tank droid, you can see it from deleted scenes from Episode 3. I quess they retconned that later
Personally, my biggest issue with the Persuader is its fixed armament. Though that's an issue with most armored vehicles in Star Wars. Still had a blast commandeering the thing in the OG Battlefront ll.
Hey Eck, great video! I'm relatively new to things like smaller groups in star wars, and I've been playing Thrawns revenge a ton lately. I've grown fond of the Tagge Battlecruiser, yet know nothing about the Tagge. From what I've seen, you haven't made a video on them (unless you did, in that case my bad) and I'd love to have a video compiling some information on them.
There's not much on them - they're really just background ships in the Classic Marvel comics
@@EcksClips huh. Was kinda thinking the house of tagge would be somthing with a surprising amount of lore, I guess not lol. Thanks anyways eck!
Snails in Ohio 💀
This tank was designed by Darth Jar Jar. Probably.
I'm glad your not doing bad batch stuff, but one or two would be ok
What in the hell is Gary doing in Star Wars? That is my question.
Sounds like your city has a stroad problem.
So that thing was scary because it was a warcrime machine.
What is your opinion about ram ships? Do you think they’re a good means to destroy larger capital ships, or do you think they’re overly complicated and standard missils are fine?
It depends on the situation, and if it's really worth to do something like it, example, in the Yuuzhan Vong War (Legends), a heavly damaged SSD (Lusankya) was used to ram one of the Vong's World ships, it was a worthy sacrifice, because:
1: The SSD was damaged beyond repair, the NR only took it's weapons away before the act;
2: The World ships were the Vong's main source of power, so taking at least one out would cripple their forces for good, yes, they had more, but most of them were dieing on the inside thanks to diseases and sh*t, since most (if not all) of their tech was solely biological.
TLDR: It's a big gamble, you either wins a lot or loses a lot, and even then, it's never guaranteed that you'll win every time
I think the addition of voice modulators near the end of the Clone Wars was the scariest part as now they could shout racial slurs as they ran you over.
It has 2 more tracks through. The ones on the side.
Ah, corporation made war machines.
Wdym goofy???!! I loved it as a kid 😤
It hunts in both land and sea, sadly not air.
What game is being played at 4:36?
The final boss of War Thunder
Great Video! Only comment, the “old picture before Episode III came out” is the back of a 3.75 scale hasbro toy from the 2008 Clone Wars line and came out at least 5 years after ROTS . Those Hasbro toys are never super film accurate and include a ton of non-canon play features, I wouldn’t put any “canon” stock in that.
You said you don't care about Lore (when discussing female space marines) why do you have an entire channel dedicated to it
That title is perfection
I’ve played the original Battlefront 2, the 2005 one. When I play on kashyyyk as the republic, these things run me over all the time.
In the Star Wars universe this tank is the speed of your average ww1 tank but strength of your modern tank
It has red eyes.
To me, this tank looks somewhat like the Japanese Type 89 I-Go Ko tank. Its tall, long, thin, and slow (ish). Its also because of the triangular-ish frame. I freaking love this thing
School zone speed limit.... "50mph... that's just slightly speeding in a school zone."
They might be terrorfying to go up against but as a battlefront player i can confirm that they are fun to drive
While the speed of the NR-N99 Persuader class droid enforcer (snail tank) is not fast by car standards it is about equal to the speed of most second generations of Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) according to the limited research i did (wikipedia).It equals the speed of the t-62 MBT (50 Km/h on roads). But its is slower compare to third generation MBTs (m1 Abrams, T-90, etc).
It did look pretty intimidating emerging from the waters of Kashyyk