Why Are Mazda RX-7s So Expensive?
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- The RX-7 History is truly insane, full of Nazi's and Racecars.
The FD RX-7 is the redheaded step-child of the 90s JDM car scene. But in recent years the stigma around the RX-7 has started to fade and RX-7s are becoming more and more valuable as time goes on. Today we deep dive into the history of the RX-7 and its value over its 40-year history.
This is a Re-Upload of our "Here's Why You Can't Afford an RX7" video! TH-cam took down the previous video so we are putting it back up with a few minor tweaks.
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Video Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - The German Beginnings
2:56 - Mazda Has Entered The Chat
5:12 - The First Mazda Rotary
5:45 - The Rotary Xperiments
8:02 - Lucky Number 7
15:34 - The Third Gen
19:00 - The Death Of The RX-7
21:49 - RX-7 Values Over The Years
27:42 - The Six Figure Spirit-R
28:58 - Cheap RX-7s For Sale Today
30:20 - What Is The Future of the RX-7?
31:55- Thank You.
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This is my all time dream car, and It was attainable because most people didn't want to have to deal with the rotary, seems like my dreams are getting crushed again by the JDM car inflation
My feelings exactly :/
Seriously screw jdm fanboys
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaah
Lmao
I'm in the EXACT SAME BOAT friend
im praying i can get one in the future :/ hardly any in UK
The timeless bodylines, unique engine design, motorsports heritage and huge aftermarket support are just a few reasons why the RX7 became so popular. Now add to that the fact we wont be seeing a successor any time soon, or maybe even ever thanks to stricter emissions regulations, the value of RX7s are going to remain high and maybe even keep going higher. Thankfully, 1/64 scale models are still affordable 😜
I think dahm's 4rotor has some part in this rise to. And his is not the only freaking awesome 4rotor build. Those cars really get your blood pumping in the right areas.
🤣 I got an RX7... A hot wheels version
Prettiest car I’ve ever seen.
My father has one of those Mazda rx7 cars he bought 10 years ago for about 20 grand in today's money. I'm not much of a car guy even though my brother is (I'm writing this in his laptop so don't mind the pfp). He told me the car is tuned and there is about 500-600hp pumping out and he says its fast.
@@lordkent8143 Same :D Its the old version (the more box one) in blue :)
Even without the rotary heart beating under the hood, the FD RX-7 is by far my favourite 90's car design of all time. A lot of 90's cars went so far into the "bubble" or the "soft and straight" design philosophy, but Mazda perfected it and made it into something curvaceous and voluptuous. Nothing will ever top the timeless design of the FD, not even something as prestigious as the Skyline or the Supra.
The sequential twin turbo rotary engine just further sets it apart from the rest of the competition. It's no wonder that people absolutely inflate the shit out of this car's value, because it's a match made in heaven. Thanks for the history lesson!
Really! The FD is truly a timeless design one of THE most beautiful cars ever made
You can't be more right
I think the FD specifically the facelift w the spirit r kit is in the top 10 best looking cars of all time, very near the top.
"Nothing will ever top the timeless design of the FD, not even something as prestigious as the Skyline or the Supra. " - Whenever I show these cars to non-car guys, they are all flabbergasted when I tell them these are all late 90s cars. Its incredible how timeless their design is.
The Spirit R Rx7 is a literal timeless design fr its such a beauty
This is a fantastic summary of the Rotary Engine and Rx-7. Thank you for putting it together. Here are some helpful corrections from a fellow enthusiast.
1) The First Generation of Rx-7 was introduced in 1978 using the code SA. It featured the unique afterburner exhaust and ensuring the Rotary met US emissions.. The FB was introduced in 1981, as the improved "Series 2" and used a now-standard Catalytic Converter.
2) The 1984 GSL-SE was the first to use the 13B-RESI, not 13B-RE which was introduced in the 1990 Cosmo.
And FB wasn't ever used in Japan and certain other export markets (eg Australia, NZ and South Africa). In these countries, the first generation was always SA22C. The designation was changed in other markets due to mandating of VINs.
He also confused the GTU with the GTUs
The GTU itself wasn't all spiffed up like the GTUs was it didn't even come with a LSD
You missed the sale in Hong Kong for ~$216k USD for a Spirit R, sold in Sept. 2021. Another one recently passed $200k USD as well
Pronunciations are on point. Pretty sure Albon is secretly part of the Axis Powers
RX-7 (FD3S) is one of the JDM Classic Legends, as well as NSX NA1, Skyline R32, Supra A80 !
Today all these 4 JDM classic legends do not have its “fixed market value” worldwide, because these models have already came back up from the lowest price points to transform into the most famous 90s JDM models of all times.
I have to say one of my favorite aspects about your content is the care and dedication you go to behind proper pronunciation of all of the brand and personal names regardless of it's original base language.
"This is albon."
Never gets old!
This is probably the best video and most comprehensive overview of the RX-7 I can find on TH-cam and deserves about 100 times the views it's getting now.
One actual note for the video title and thumbnail: The negativity probably isn't helping with the views. I would say just change it to somewhere along the lines of "The reason RX-7 prices is getting out of hand" or "RX-7 prices need to chill out." Or something that's a bit more light-hearted. The title and video doesn't match up as the video doesn't nearly project as much negativity as I thought it would and I was really hesitant about clicking on this series of video even after TH-cam recommended this to me like 20 times in the past. I just thought this is a huge missed opportunity in my honest opinion.
I wouldn't say, "the RX7 was unreliable." It simply required more regular maintenance (~60k Mi). Not cheap, but you pay to play.
Fantastic video! Excellent story telling and research!
Very well made video man! That took a lot of research and editing. Awesome job!
The RX7 is definitely one of the best icons ever
And even as a rotary it’s a reliable car as long as you maintain it well
no, the engine will slowly die for sure but it is not going to explode like so many people believe.
@@potatochobit all engines slowly die
@beast boy woman dies before camry
@@potatochobit that’s what happens to every engine some engines do it faster
Lmao a Rotary being reliable🤣 stop lying to yourself, those weak ass Apex seals take a shit after 70-100k miles Tops which is pathetic compared to a combustion engines life span that'll go more than half a million miles when maintained properly.
125,000aud for a spirit R is considered a good deal now, they regularly sell for more now. A white grade 5 Spirit R with 14,000km just sold at USS Tokyo auction yesterday for 23,180,000 Yen ~ about 200k USD
Yeah, the one shown in the video is something like 88,000usd
I just got back into cars and thanks to your videos I’m learning so much keep it up❤
Wow...this was a great video...you do great with these!
I bought a 20/04 rx8 last year I wasn’t sure if I was going to like it.I change my mind on the drive home damm I love it. Have Definitely have made a lot of changes sense
2005 owner here. The more I drive it the more I love my 8. Maybe after this engine dies I'll FD swap it and get the best of both worlds
@@Mazhura_13B I also want an rx8 can you tell me the pros and cons since you're an owner?
Nice video dude!
Damn this was actually a really really great video, thanks man
Awesome video. Thanks ! 😄
This is a professional documentary...awesome. Thanks
Cosmo is such a piece of art.🤩 Love the design so much.
I just picked up an absolute mint condition red with black interior 94. Its 100% original.
you got my subscribe, I have a 300zx that I recently hand built the engine. It took me 2 years, but I just got it started last month, and i've only been hitting 12 psi. But man do the japanese cars hit different. Keep up the good work !!!
Another Albon documentary? Count me in!
I remember in high school researching used cars and a few cars in the kbb at the book store had green arrows pointing up next to the used car prices .. this and the Supra were two of them.. only a few cars were already appreciating back in 2000 .. in 2004 I test drove a 93 in great condition with a new engine for 12k
I had an FB and a 91 FC turbo. The FB was nice but I preferred my Z cars. The FC Turbo was special. I wish I would've kept it. Through a series of sales and trades it became my 911 though, and that one I plan to keep as long as I can keep it running.
Love the video. I love my spirit r. Owned mine for over 7 years. One day hope to put it on the track to see how it handles. Other than that I have no need to drive it.
In 1973 both the RX-2 and RX-3 got thermal afterburners for completing the combustion of the unburned exhaust gasses. This is how Mazda got that engine to sound so smooth, quiet and pass emissions. Don't forget Racing Beat in California for their early (and later) successes tuning both the rotary engine and various Mazda chassis for Racing. I don't know who started "bridge porting" but it might have been Racing Beat. They did a lot of tuning on the port shapes. They started working on Rotary engines in 1972.
The 13B engine started it's production life in the Rotary Pickup truck in 1974, believe it, or not. It had the same end plates as the 12A, but a wider rotor and perimeter plates. One little secret back then with these normally aspirated rotary engines that I learned early on, is that the lowest octane gasoline works best. That is because low octane fuel burns faster than hi-octane gas and engine knock was never an issue.
Our 1973 RX-2 engine suffered from a coolant leak into the combustion chamber. Mazda paid for about half the repair costs to rebuild the engine at the time. This was a common failure at the time. I overheated the engine one more time years later while on vacation. I knew what the failure was and drove continuously all the way home because I knew that once I shut down the engine it would not restart. I added water along the way and made it home.
These RX-7 were incredibly popular in club racing because of their reliability. Without valves and lots of moving parts in the engine in it's stock form was a reliable reliable engine and allowed an owner to hit all of the club events in a year without worrying about the engine.
Oh one more note. Since I had a RX-2 in the late '70 and early '80's it was a great sleeper car. It looked like a Corolla and went like hell once it got wound up enough and the vacuum secondaries opened up. I (and others') shifted well after the redline warning beeper came on. I've heard of some racers keeping the buzzer on the whole race. Mazda changed the ports for better low end when they came out with the RX-7. In addition to owning and researching everything rotary engine at the time, I also worked at a Mazda Tuner for a short time. This was the era of FB's. The big aftermarket performance upgrade was installing turbos.
One more note, we sold some rear seats for these FB's. In Japan the RX-7 was a 2+2 and had rear seats. In the US, we got compartments instead of seats. But these were swappable if anybody wanted the tiny rear seats. I believe we got them from Japan.
The FD was the best of the RX-7's. Iconic look and the best of everything. Sorry for the long comment. I knew a lot about Mazda's rotary engines and RX-X cars.
Very interesting summary of the RX-7 history. Spotted some mistakes here and there, but overall very neat!
Lucky me i got my first FD 10 years ago.
Same.
As a self proclaimed "Car Geek" I absolutely love this channel 😏👌
Grate info. Lol to the power of editing. Edited in the drive after the lesson. Sitting on the bucket.
there is just nothing like it. i hope that one day i'll have the money... fc or fd doesn't matter really. the engine is just so smooth sounding and both chassis drive perfectly. also good aftermarket support for mods and tons of knowledge on how to make the engine more reliable.
I personally love all of the rx-7's equally, however I think the 1st gen deserves more attention. I own a mint 82 model and I live it to death
dont worry, theyre going up in value. I also have an 82 in blue!
First gen is pretty aight! It doesn't offer there performance potential of the other gens, but still good!
I am jealous
We used to call them bananas
The shape is ugly that's why they've never been popular I think
@Art Vandelay you're entitled to your own opinion, but I think you are wrong. In no way do they look like bananas. That being said, if you are talking about the series 1 (79-80) I can kind of see where you are coming from. I'm not a fan of the series 1 with its chunky bumpers and bullet shaped front fenders. The series 2 and 3 are much more attractive
You should of mentioned how "The Fast and the Furious" movie back in 2001 really brought back the RX-7 spirit back to life.
*should have
0:11 please tell me what spoiler kit that is. It looks like a spirit r wing but taller and I love it.
My dream car is just getting more and more difficult to find
Fr tho 😭😭
that yellow one i swear to god so magic!
BIG UP Albon top class production.
Starting the restoration of my first gen RX7 soon now
Always great 'investment grade' videos.
Very timeless design. Still looking so good.
Best rx7 vid i ever seen.
The things that really drew me to the RX-7 were the cost, and inconvenience. I just love it.
Dude that's going to make me cry I'm never going to be able to get my hands on one of those I'd give anything to have an RX7 🥺 I'd take care of the car and keep it running for the rest of my life
Im glad this is back up, didnt get to finish the first time. What pulled it down?
me too, im curious
Don't forget that the FD won the Australian Bathurst 12hr 4 years straight. Wiping Porsche in the process. Hence the SP, and Bathurst R models.
Honestly I always had a feeling that you owned every car that sat behind you in every video now it's confirmed!
I want to buy an RX-7 so bad but when I searched on the local market the price for a stock FD is MYR200k++ (around USD48,000++) I'm shocked 😲 it was MYR50k (around USD12k) 1-2 years ago ffs!! it may not seem expensive in other countries but here in Malaysia it's like finding a needle in the haystacks... It's rare and expensive asf... Only the RX8 have lower price and also quite a lot to be found here... But still expensive tho
Hearing these almost makes me cry because it's my dream car and in my country it's impossible to have. There is only 3-4 of them and it's impossible to legaly get a new one from outside of country and those 3-4 cost millions. I always think one day I'll go to europe or something and get one but hearing these...
One day. I want to buy a 944 and do a rotary swap to confuse the crap out of people 😂
25:30 reliable packages? since when i never heard of that i’m genuinely curious
what valuation/sales site is that
There is currently a 2002 Spirit up for sale in Australia for $188,000AUD or $135,000USD.
I want a 10ae rx-7 ❤
Great video!
I had an rx8, I loved it. It did flood on me a few times when I forgot to rev it to shut it off.
Let’s not forget this car was in the first three fast and furious movies but hands down the most famous was the orange and black Veilside FD RX-7 from Tokyo Drift
My neighbor had two FC's sitting in his driveway. After seeing those beauties I decided to research what kind of car it was. Then that lead to me watching Initial D. I love the FC3s. side note, Another neighbor of mine has a Porsche 944, the version that Mazda took inspiration from for the FC. I haven't asked about the RX7's or the 944 sitting in those yards but I'm very curious.
Edit: The one of the rx7 FC's is for sale for $6000 and it's the turbo ii model.
Give me that mans number
@@Meekmillan it's in Dallas Texas
@@calebyoung1018 6k for an fc is an insane deal
@@Burchie_ Absolutely destroyed dash because of sun damage, and needs some work. Engine runs well
@@calebyoung1018 well it's still a good deal.But if you are gonna do it, it's best if you do a full 360 inspection of it to be sure
Is this repost??
Probably, I swear I remember this video and then it disappeared when I wanted to watch it again. Glad its back tho
Yep! Video got taken down a while back by TH-cam so we've got it up l back up now!
had one back in the day and it seemed to like to break down near or on payday once a month
This vid was awesome
12:26. I have a correction here for you. In 1989 the GTU was sold as the base model. The upgrades you attributed to the GTU were actually from the GTUs.
There was also mazda 767 and 767B from what i know... The R26B engine actually produced about 900 ish hp at 9000 rpm but it was detuned to about 700 to be reliable... That on a car that weighed about 830kgs is actually mind bending... The engine was insanely reliable... After the 24 hrs of Lemans when mazda engineers disassembled the engine it showed minimal wear, so much so that they could assemble it back, put some oil in it and run another 24 hrs(but the chassis wouldn't have survived another 24 hrs but hey it's one of the toughest and most challenging races in the world)... 787b was a one off wonder
Absolutely loved the wankel rotary history lesson. Excellent video my friend... big love from the UK 🇬🇧
I cannot imagine my teenage years without the RX-7s,Supras,Skylines and 3000GT-VR4 those were the top Japanese sports cars during my youth great video btw
It seems the algorythm hates you Albon, I hope you get those views back soon!
You should do video for Silvia’s
I'm in the market for an FC3S or FC3C, I'm still in high school and have only had my first job for a month... Do you think going for an RX-7 is a good idea now? Or is waiting the better option.
@Spooks this amounts my situation to a damn near verbatim
Most comments your going to get are other high schoolers who don't have a job and don't understand how finances in the real world work. So just be realistic and don't expect yourself getting this car as your first or daily driver. They are heavily unreliable and cost a fortune to maintain due to the scarcity of parts. For now just aim for something cheap and simple like a civic or a Camry, when you're earning enough money then maybe get an RX7 as a weekend driver.
@@vapour_xs9235 i would suggest not buying a fd or an fc right now cause the apex seals like blowing and youll spend 5x the cost of the car on repairs
I'd advise not to get a fc or fb as a first car because at the end of the day you are buying a two seat sports car from the 70s/80s with a quirky engine that needs patience/time/money to only just keep it on the road. If you are dead set on a rotary get a compression test done and if possible get it on a lift and have a trust worthy mechanic look over EVERYTHING because while these cars are exciting they are 30 year old cars and you can get shafted.
Honestly, I'm only 17. I'm in my last year of high school, and I decided to buy an FB last year when I knew I was low on cash. I ended up getting a loan from my dad to help pay for it. (You never want to get into loans in high school), however I did later end up paying it off. Was buying the car at 17 and low on cash a good idea? Absolutely not. But you know what? That car has been the absolute best car I have ever owned, and quite frankly has been more reliable than some of the other modern ish cars I've had. I even used it as my daily for a bit. From one high schooler to another, I'd say, wait until you have a stable income to be able to pay for gas (you'll be there alot), insurance and the other things that come along with owning any car. Also, set aside some extra cash on top of that. Once you achieve that, then you can begin looking for an FC or an FB. They are always around. It's always good to have cash on top, because even though I've been lucky, rotaries can be very expensive when the engines break. In the end, I can't tell you what to do, but that is just my opinion. Good luck in your search 👍
I love the roomba intake on the rx7
Hello can you make a video about honda civic type r ek9?
Please do a Special on the GC8!!!
One of my favorites
I really love the rx7, it's really a special car. Curves that if we're on a girl, it'd drive a man wild, the most unique engine sound I've ever heard in a lot of builds, builds never seem the same.
I personally fell in love with the rx7 when I watched donut medias covering of Aaron Parker's rx7. At the time, it was the craziest thing I had ever seen! It was as if it came from an alien civilization with actual good taste! The colors, the insane exhaust note, just looking at it on camera driving and how easy it seems to handle, it was all just perfect.
How about making a video about the ae86?
Mans called Win!? Perfect race driver name
Is this a repost? I feel like I've watched this.
Has to be. Or some serious deja vu lol
it is a repost, he made one a few months ago but removed it, this one seems more detailed but prices haven't been updated, 125k aud for a spirit R is a good deal now, they go for far more than that. Highest price that I've seen is 23,180,000 yen ~ 200k USD for a grade 5 spirit R with 14,000km which sold 2 days ago at auctions in Japan.
Very good indepth videod👍🏾👍🏾
Name of the song through out the video pls
Wish you made a video about EVO'S
Outside of being a JDM icon, scarcity and being scared of the rotary. At least in the US, the FD RX-7 had the same fate as the twin-turbo 3000GT AWD. Amazing car, but an absolute nightmare to deal with due to its complexity. Even now, I feel like Skyline owners here have an easier time with parts and reliability thanks to the growing number of grey-market owners.
It really makes me think about the RX-8, and what kind of fate it will have 25+ years on.. They’re genuinely good cars, but (at the moment) people will give them away because as far as I know, there still hasn’t been a proper solution to the Apex Seals problem. Which currently sits at $1800 FOR REPLACEMENT.
Between not many FD’s still being around and many people changing them into Corvettes, I’m not surprised the prices are climbing. Makes me sad because out of all of them FD is the JDM icon I like the most. Though FB’s have really grown on me recently.
What do you mean changing them into corvettes? Do you mean LS1 swap? after owning a rotary I don't even think that's a bad idea anymore. They're so much trouble, unreliable, and a money sink.
This was my first car I bought for $10,000 20 years ago.
I want an '82 RX7. I'm a sucker for the retro looks of that car.
Miata prices have been going up too! crazy
I love this channel
Ver good commentary..well I not parting with my 93 R1 with 16,000 all original miles
Right before the fast and furious came out I was trying to buy one in 2001-2002 , I test drove a few 93s in Alabama and the nice ones were like 15k and a decent one (running ) was 8-12k
Great history 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Great program' but I must have missed the 3 rotor Cosmo luxury sedan that can be imported from Japan.
did you really fill yr blinkers with blinker fluid 17:34
here in colombia i bought the only rx7fd from 1993 that existed for 43,000 american dollars, and that remains to buy interior and exterior things to improve its appearance, not to mention that here there is only one mechanic in the country who knows about rotaries
wait a minute..........i thought I saw this video a month or so ago...........
Me too, what happened
in intial D , which Rx7 was in the tv anime ?
2nd and 3rd gen
Rx3 and rx8 also had a good racing reputation
so sad it's getting more expensive... I've always wanted to have a nice stock and a project FD but it's so rare to find nice stock these days
I have a 88 gtu would love to drive it but seals are going so it doesnt like to run for long
Seems to me here in Aus that all the rotaries have gone up.
Even the old non rotor 70s Mazda's collect good $$.
The last of the Rx7s last time Iooked couldn't find under 50k.
I can't believe you didn't mention the pop up headlights
3:35 Been watcing too much Scotty Kilmer videos