F-15C MSIP II In War Thunder : A Basic Review

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  • @TimsVariety
    @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    Before anyone asks, yes, I was up pretty late last night....

    • @kittyhawk348
      @kittyhawk348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was up as well and I work in 1 hr

    • @monika-Chr
      @monika-Chr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will we get a video on your thoughts on ARH missiles being thrown into top tier with 16v16?

    • @danielzaba9913
      @danielzaba9913 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Could we get one for the mig 21 bison tim?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@danielzaba9913 Its next in line

    • @danielzaba9913
      @danielzaba9913 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TimsVariety Thanks!

  • @Tigershark_3082
    @Tigershark_3082 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Kind of a funny thing regarding the MSIP upgrades:
    MSIP I (for F-15A/B) was, by all accounts, terminated/cancelled due to the costs of upgrading ALL the older A/B models.
    It was instead decided that once the C/D models had been fully upgraded, they'd use whatever was left over to upgrade a few A/B models for the Air National Guard. The program itself was being done from 1983-1985 (or possibly a little earlier for the starting year).
    Prior to MSIP II, F-15s had to carry chaff bundles stuffed away under the airbrake, so they'd only have one shot to release chaff then begin jinking. The main idea back in the 70s was to take off, find target, lock target, shoot, then kill first, all before the enemy could (hence lack of countermeasures, as they were initially not needed or considered as being needed by the USAF). If I remember right, CM dispensers were initially meant only to be used on multi-role aircraft of that period, or any plane that would be facing the threat of SAMs (hence the Navy/Marines implementing CMs through the Shoehorn upgrades of the mid-late 60s).

    • @newguyiswinning
      @newguyiswinning 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Which is exactly how modern jets are supposed to be flown yet people get mad at gaijin for bvr missiles

    • @Denkmaldrubernacht
      @Denkmaldrubernacht 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@newguyiswinning BVR isnt fun or viable

    • @JohnWT08
      @JohnWT08 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@newguyiswinning maybe because gaijin puts those missiles in cramped maps with a large amount of teams? you know the scenario Tigershark is talking about is more on par to single flight or squad flight missions not full on 16 v 16 furballs

    • @timwillis4063
      @timwillis4063 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I find it rather satisfying in sim. Big maps requiring you to know how to use your radar until in visual range

    • @brecibros2469
      @brecibros2469 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@timwillis4063lol in the Sim game I plsy people just autisticly spam them

  • @Squood
    @Squood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Tim: “Slow down.”
    Me, the resident speed freak: “SPEED KING, RACE TO WIN, AFTERBURNERS ROARING!”

    • @Curlycopper
      @Curlycopper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ghost like counterstrike takes them by surprise

    • @M1A2C.
      @M1A2C. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      whenever i see the 'Reduce Speed" warning on my screen i take it as a challenge🗿

    • @eyo8766
      @eyo8766 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me who used the F4J and F4E:
      "No"

    • @troopergames8173
      @troopergames8173 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eyo8766as a fellow F4E flyer yeah 😂

  • @mbravos
    @mbravos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    7:07 WW2 camos on 4th gen fighters are peak aesthetic. As a British main, I have no problem to admit that the biggest reason I want the Eurofighter to be added is for the BoB commemorative skin.

    • @nick4754
      @nick4754 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do custom skins not historical ones but I'm usually going for that WW2 fighter look with my jets love that look for cold war era fighters

    • @greystash1750
      @greystash1750 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gina? Was very cool, I’ve seen the mustang style for the f15 and the p47 for the a10 which also look very cool

    • @0122358
      @0122358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      howdo i find this camo

  • @XboxProdigy1
    @XboxProdigy1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    LETS GOOOOO. Been waiting on this one.
    PS that Missile juke at 7:03 was hot.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I hoped someone would notice that ;-)

    • @bogdanvino
      @bogdanvino 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TimsVariety How did you even do it? Because I'm rewatching that bit rn, and there's no sudden drastic jink. your turn is very smooth, and yet the missile just... misses

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bogdanvino Nose dipping down, opposite rudder, while rolling/pulling into the missile, with constant chaff.

  • @solvdev
    @solvdev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    It’s been a while since I was here as I had my exam season, but god, hearing the metallic clunk on your intro was like walking into heated room in winter lol

  • @ale69420
    @ale69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I love you Tim. Great content.

  • @Viper_BTW
    @Viper_BTW 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love your videos Tim! You killed me once in one of these review videos. I believe i was in my MiG 23MLD and you absolutely smacked me 😂

  • @Rickardo9828
    @Rickardo9828 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    something that I wish was included in the section about landing, is how fast you can go when landing without gear, because as silly as it is, belly landing is generally the best strategy if you want as fast a turnaround time as possible, and so as long as war thunder incentivizes it, I think including it is a good idea.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Having flown light general-aviation planes in real life, I feel morally obligated to do "correct" landings when possible. ;-)

    • @Rickardo9828
      @Rickardo9828 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TimsVariety yeah that's fair enough, and who knows maybe one day Gaijin will increase the repair time for belly landing, so it'll be irrelevant anyway.

  • @Samila009
    @Samila009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great work Tim , love the in depth information ....🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @guitarlover42
    @guitarlover42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Freedom is back on the menu murica meta this thing with 8 amrams and multipath being removed is amazing.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Especially with that huge flag-themed airshow skin! :-)

  • @Samila009
    @Samila009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Your channel probably the best , informative and top notch 👌 👍 ❤❤

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat9873 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thats a pretty serious paint job ya got there on the F-15

  • @HornetCinematics
    @HornetCinematics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very nice video as always, Tim! :)

  • @CPUfy
    @CPUfy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent review as always

  • @hamishbernard8
    @hamishbernard8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great review, but I miss your intro music you had in older videos, I dont know why I just really liked it. Great job TV!!!

  • @KaguyasBeat
    @KaguyasBeat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Tim got to say it finally. You get the AIM-120A AMRAAM. There was something I found really satisfying about that.

  • @J39444
    @J39444 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As ever always appreciated Tim. such a professional review, hope your keeping well!

  • @Jengoboys603
    @Jengoboys603 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6 mile yeet is where im at. Grear vid great advice on the missles. I just unlocked it last weekend

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6mi is a pretty good range for most shots, lots of missile energy to hit dodgers.

  • @SixMillionDollarMan-x4p
    @SixMillionDollarMan-x4p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just another great review, thanks for the time you put in. I love this, there is something about my flying style I am doing so much better in it than the F16C...good hunting mate

  • @Android_ELITE
    @Android_ELITE 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm glad I learned manual target cueing a while back; it's a hell of a lot more important for using the ARH missiles in TWS with how unreliable the auto-selection is

    • @CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer
      @CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does that mean, you got a video to teach about this?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer I cover it in my currently-current complete radar guide.

  • @LightningFox512
    @LightningFox512 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YAY NEW TIM REVIEW

  • @CalebHamilton-y9u
    @CalebHamilton-y9u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am researching the F15c rn and for fuel I run 2 outer drop tanks and 20 mins of internal fuel, I binded the drop tank button so I just drop them when I get into combat

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, thats a fairly common tactic for top-tier jets, not just the F-15. Usually works out well and gives some flexibility.

  • @Kousaka_Kyousuke
    @Kousaka_Kyousuke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seek and destroy is the first time where im at top tier and can get straight to grinding the newest plane 🎉

  • @sirbonobo3907
    @sirbonobo3907 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my alltime favorite Jet planes!

  • @thomasluke-wp8or
    @thomasluke-wp8or 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait for your cover of the tornado f3 late! I was really worried it wouldn't come when it wasn't on the dev server but ever since amraam was speculation I just knew the tornado F needed to get amraam

  • @DetectiveSketch
    @DetectiveSketch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great Video!

  • @stuffy2757
    @stuffy2757 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    considering the fact that f15 has the aim120 that entered service in 1991 there is no reason it shouldnt get the paveyway if it gets the gbu8

  • @theincrediblefox
    @theincrediblefox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your reviews, brief, to the point but still covering a wide array of aspects of a given vehicle.
    Are you gonna put yourself through the pain of making one on the F-4F KWS? Understandable if not, but i'd love to see your usual take on it.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, but it wont be right away. I haven't done a Phantom in a while.

    • @theincrediblefox
      @theincrediblefox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimsVariety Sounds good. Have a nice day!

  • @abrahamlincoln621
    @abrahamlincoln621 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    currently halfway to getting this baby using the f15a rn, only a few more hours of grinding

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep goin' , you got this!

  • @DieErsteKartoffel
    @DieErsteKartoffel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    HE'S BACK

  • @gergoturi7559
    @gergoturi7559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems there is a major oversight with the F-15C. If you compare it to the improved Baaz, you'll notice a huge gap in terms of flight performance, but it doesn't make much sense, since both have the same engine. Hopefully gaijin will fix this and the F-15C gets buffed.

  • @Daniel-ie3mt
    @Daniel-ie3mt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will you cover the F-15J(M) for Japan? With the AAM-4 and AAM-3. Might be a shorter video, but then it might be easier too!

  • @Fffffffffffffffffrfrf
    @Fffffffffffffffffrfrf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always...awsome video!!

  • @rammen4
    @rammen4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Praying for the release of the missile guide. I feel entirely stumped on what to do
    PS When intro music?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The segment on the AIM-54 in my currently-current missile guide is still relevant, in terms of the targeting and mechanics, its just that the new ones are FAR superior in performance. I'll have a "quick and dirty" ARM vid up soon to get folks by until I can update the longform guide.

  • @astonbailey-fong1178
    @astonbailey-fong1178 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My new War Thunder goal: get the F-15C
    Update: I did it

    • @xDerHunterHeli
      @xDerHunterHeli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im currently grinding it and the benelux tree sadly i dont have more money for Premium but yea

  • @corybrown2197
    @corybrown2197 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been absolutely dominating with this thing. My lowest scoring matches I usually end with at least 2 kills.
    And in my best matches, I’m coming out with 7.
    The F-15 was already a great plane. But now with the amraam, and an HMD, it’s a monster.
    My fuel strategy is to take the two wing bound fuel tanks. 2 bags for a little over 20 minutes of fuel. So I can burn at 110% for a decent amount of time with no consequence. 20 minutes of internal fuel. And if I get into a dogfight before I run out of fuel in the bags I just dump them. Boom, now I’ve got optimal weight. Once the bags are gone I burn at 101% unless I’m dogfighting and I need that extra power to keep me competitive. Or I need to climb quickly.

  • @weltall7283
    @weltall7283 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    2:48 I wasnt expecting a Seekerhead jumpscare

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I've seen Seek in-game quite a bit over the last day or two :-)

  • @gansior4744
    @gansior4744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would love for Italian F-16A ADF to get AMRAAMs and improved Sidewinders

  • @retromecha
    @retromecha 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video, Tim. Do you take requests? I'd love to see a review of the new MICA missiles on the M2K!

  • @Razgriz_Swordsman
    @Razgriz_Swordsman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Tim! I hope you are doing better regarding your health!
    Cool vid, as usual!
    I'm honestly having troubles with the Fox-3 missiles, in my case, the Darter in the British grippen. Despite trying to flank and make side shots, i don't seem to able to hit the intended target, and got caught even in some FF event (yes, with the Darter, even though i was locking an enemy MIG-29) idk if someone else is having the same issues getting accustomed to the new missiles or if it's just skill issue from my part.
    It's a pretty good addition to game, everyone seems to get kills but me lol.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of the elitists will disagree with me on this, but the problems you described are more luck than "skill".
      After you fire off an active radar missile, you have no control over where it goes or what it does - if you fire it into a group of targets, just flip a coin which one it targets, and if friendlies are anywhere near it, theres a chance it goes terminal on them. I demonstrated this happening in my currently-current complete guide to air to air missiles in the ARH/Phoenix section.

  • @WarThunderEnjoyer-e7t
    @WarThunderEnjoyer-e7t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What do you think about the top tier aircraft’s without fox 3 missiles ?
    Btw I love ur content keep up the good work ❤

  • @Anti-Villain-Wolf
    @Anti-Villain-Wolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'd be more excited about this, but since the update my game lags like crazy and or freezes my PS4 lol. I need an upgrade. Great video as always Tim! Question: Did they do away with the rewards for air assault mode? I've played 2 or 3 matches in that and got no reward of any kind

    • @WldntULike2Know
      @WldntULike2Know 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s dependent on how long you survive (increments of 15min for each tier) and it’s only once per day

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The reward you get depends on how far your team gets (if you clear the mission or not) as well as your individual contribution.

    • @Anti-Villain-Wolf
      @Anti-Villain-Wolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimsVariety that's what's got me confused. I finished the mission in first place, and we won, but I got no reward at all

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Anti-Villain-Wolf thats ... odd ... you can only get the reward once per day, its possible it hadn't reset since the last time you did it?

    • @Anti-Villain-Wolf
      @Anti-Villain-Wolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimsVariety I did get my booster reward prior to the update, but as far as SL and RP, I got absolutely nothing. I checked on reddit and others are reporting the same problem, and was wondering if you knew anything about it

  • @acecfa44
    @acecfa44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Before the update dropped I thought I'd be enjoying the mirage 2000 5f the most and slinging micas, but this plane has stolen the show for me thanks to the versatility of the AIM-120s and the electronics kit

  • @jacknickolstine3355
    @jacknickolstine3355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbh they should also have the lock box when looking away from the hud being the hud is on your head.

  • @janusz4156
    @janusz4156 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    50 years of F-15 in 2022.

  • @joaourbano7957
    @joaourbano7957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When are we getting Tim's decal and discount code?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most likely never, or YEARS from now. The number of views on my weekly saturday uploads would need to at least triple before I can even apply for that.

  • @SixMillionDollarMan-x4p
    @SixMillionDollarMan-x4p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey dude, do you fly in the furball in BR12-13 Realistic Air , just curious, because I dont get that furball.. very curious because youre a good pilot

  • @JD98ns
    @JD98ns 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spading this thing is going to be fun...

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The stock grind on the new rank 8s is ... beyond awful .... :-\

  • @sniper_gamer_55
    @sniper_gamer_55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The grind is so painful and why shall we unlock the AIM-9l despite having 2 stock AIM-9m

  • @AndyWager
    @AndyWager 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do a comparison of the F15C vs the F16C?
    I have F16c, but wondering if its worth it to grind the F15 and stock grind it or not.

    • @justfly7730
      @justfly7730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      After opening aim120 for F15, I am sure that I am having more fun with F16c. Something with the radar of F15 makes it harder for me

  • @erushi5503
    @erushi5503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Top Gun fan brain just summarized the advice to "ITs not the plane, its the pilot so beware of skill issues"

  • @xDerHunterHeli
    @xDerHunterHeli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I seen nothing in test drive regarding wing rip... Very nice and i didnt hear anything that said wing rip from the F-15A is still a thing

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't run into any issues. YMMV.

    • @xDerHunterHeli
      @xDerHunterHeli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimsVariety nice, i really dont want to fly the F-15A that Much anymore bc of the random wing rip

  • @jeremiahwelborn5526
    @jeremiahwelborn5526 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate they don't add the 9x in game, not only that but give jets that had the 9m the 9m such as the f16a

  • @Typo350
    @Typo350 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you rapid swap between targets like that with the tws? My key binds never works and I don't know why, I have swap radar/irst target and then it never does anything when I actually ad anything when I use the key binds, it just stays on the first target
    EDIT: It's because I have manual targeting on. You can't auto swap if you have manual target enabled. Lame

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct. I never use the manual target slewing, so for me its the 'cycle target' keybind.

  • @flak8842
    @flak8842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice content tim can you start the review on the low tier prop Fokker G IA next ?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its on the list, but won't be next.

  • @Yrahcxz
    @Yrahcxz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was Ganna get it but figured there’s no point if it doesn’t have a HMD like the f16c, HMD is great

  • @madeingermany9445
    @madeingermany9445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are you going to make a video about the f-15J(M) too?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll get to it eventually, but it won;t be right away.

  • @danaolsongaming
    @danaolsongaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still seems like they haven't implemented a fully functional TWS system with this update. Feelsbadman.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As far as I can tell, its unchanged from the previous implementation.

  • @aosalhasani4935
    @aosalhasani4935 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice :) just got the 15J(M) so most of the review crosses over to that thing. Just one question is when should I be using the 120s and when should I use the AAM-4s?

    • @legendarywoIf
      @legendarywoIf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Currently there seems to be no reason to use the AAM-4 as it seems to just be worse than AIM-120 in almost every way

    • @aosalhasani4935
      @aosalhasani4935 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@legendarywoIf I thought they were but just put it down to me using them wrong but I’ll switch em out for the 120s in that case cheers :)

  • @inferno5806
    @inferno5806 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi I play on Xbox and my HMD doesn't want to work. Key Bine is set pls help

  • @Malkuth-Gaming
    @Malkuth-Gaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    heres me hoping that one day. One day I get the Aim 120 on my JA37D xD

  • @Indyscout
    @Indyscout 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The stock grind on this thing is the worst. I can’t even imagine the F4F ICE

  • @jinx_rogue
    @jinx_rogue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the pitbull range for aim120?

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If the datamines are correct, 16km

  • @nick4754
    @nick4754 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:31 skin be like🇺🇲🦅💥🏈🇺🇲💥🇺🇲🏈🇺🇲🏈🇺🇲🏈🦅💥🇺🇲

  • @HaartieeTRUE
    @HaartieeTRUE 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imo, conformal fuel tanks are useless, even in sim.
    -you don't have enough fuel in RB ? just take more, because you're likely not taking full load already
    -you are ? just take more drop tanks.
    -still not enough ? the match is literally likely over already if that wasn't enough...

  • @Frank-ys3jw
    @Frank-ys3jw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For fuel ill normally take 25 mins and the belly drop tank

  • @jihost2589
    @jihost2589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Gaijin not believe in X band radar sets? APG-63 should definitely be in that band, not I

  • @gabrielabreu5200
    @gabrielabreu5200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice. But typhoon when?

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat9873 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh not the best F-15 in the game almost though the Japan F-15J(M) that's a good F-15 in game right now and I'm not ready to start the grind on it just yet but Good video like always Plenty of info and showcase @Tim's Variety Also, I thought and heard that if you take over the 100% on fuel it burns the fuel faster in game is this true? Just got the message from a lil birdie that told me 🐦

  • @charliethepaleonerd9023
    @charliethepaleonerd9023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should I get the f15c or the f16c

    • @LordEmperorHyperion
      @LordEmperorHyperion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Neither both nor one of them the Su27SM is a superior fighter in every way

    • @thatrandomdude7767
      @thatrandomdude7767 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LordEmperorHyperion the su27 is a lot worse in every way

  • @ryangilbert2416
    @ryangilbert2416 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:30 how my radar be bugging

    • @mortexic4939
      @mortexic4939 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Enemy planes are slippery, friendly planes are magnetic.

  • @Alexander-vu9wp
    @Alexander-vu9wp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which is better the f15 or f16 line

    • @exhausting_thoughts
      @exhausting_thoughts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Previous to this update: F-16.
      Right now the F-15 branch is just better.

    • @Alexander-vu9wp
      @Alexander-vu9wp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@exhausting_thoughts even if it’s previous aircraft like early jets and WWII planes?

    • @exhausting_thoughts
      @exhausting_thoughts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alexander-vu9wp The most fun i had in US props was in the Tomcat branch, naval props/early jets are decent at almost any task.
      But between the 15 and the 16 branchs, the best experience overall + endgame is now the Eagle one.

    • @Alexander-vu9wp
      @Alexander-vu9wp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@exhausting_thoughts ok thanks I’m in jets in the naval line and I need to research another line so thanks

    • @gansior4744
      @gansior4744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends what you need/like. I like the Phantom E, but F-16C being so versatile cannot be overlooked

  • @smarty_7997
    @smarty_7997 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro I just want the F/A-18

    • @dannyeltz9871
      @dannyeltz9871 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its probably next

  • @andrew9021
    @andrew9021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About that "outstanding flight performance", I believe a more accurate representation of how the F-15C (or any plane) behaves in this department is to compare it to its peers. By that metric, the F-15C is about one of the WORST jets at top tier in this regard. At low speed it is very sluggish compared to something like a Mirage 2000 or even the old F-15A, at medium to high speed it is noticeably slower to turn the F-16s, Gripen, Mirage 2000 etc. In sustained rate fight, even the Su-27 and MiG-29 give it trouble, which should be really saying a lot.
    Now, don't get me wrong, it still has a lot of thrust and the handling is still decent, and with re worked multipathing and the strong missile kit, one could argue the sub-par flight performance, when compared to its peers, doesn't matter too much in air RB, BUT make no mistake, getting in an old-fashioned dogfight with just about any other top tier jet will get you killed while flying this plane.
    Great content otherwise, some might say this is a bit nit picky (and it sort of is), and the rest of the info in this video is to my knowledge, accurate and relevant to the current state of top tier air RB.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I try not to explicitly mention too many direct comparisons, because the snail messes around with the flight models so often, I'll just flooded with "actually...." comments six months later when they buff/nerf the aoa by half a degree or something.

    • @andrew9021
      @andrew9021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimsVariety That's fair enough, and with the recent patch this definitely applies. I just felt like mentioning this because I see a lot of people in air RB flying this plane as if it was the old F-15A whenever a dogfight does happen, and it absolutely does not work. Like you said in a video on I think the MiG-29SMT, it's not bad, but it does warrant a change in how you fly, compared to the old plane.

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andrew9021 Thats actually a very good analogy - Mig-29 regular to Mig-29SMT.

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to read this things name gave me a mini-stroke.

  • @victordanielalvescarvalho3353
    @victordanielalvescarvalho3353 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The stock grind in this new br is horrendous, one of the worst ive seen, even base bomb is harder now

    • @altacc0604
      @altacc0604 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      spotted the american player who bombed to top tier

    • @DigitalShaolin
      @DigitalShaolin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@altacc0604bruh the stock grind IS terrible though

  • @saintfan416
    @saintfan416 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    To me this update was horrible. Made top tier air worse than it already was.

    • @waki0069
      @waki0069 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Tbh flying phantoms, especially Kai is very enjoyable right now as radar missiles finally seem to work.

    • @TheSharkkyy
      @TheSharkkyy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@waki0069 second this I've been getting all my rp on the f15 from my phantom

    • @finkamain1621
      @finkamain1621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waki0069 I flew my F-20A which can only carry 2 radar missiles. Played 5 games with it and got 7 kills with the missiles. Way more than before the update

    • @saintfan416
      @saintfan416 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@waki0069 top tier (12.0+) is a dumpster fire due to fox3 spam

    • @gansior4744
      @gansior4744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I imagine. 15vs15 with almost everyone having 6 ARH missiles

  • @jacknickolstine3355
    @jacknickolstine3355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Play SIM !!!

  • @mcohanov
    @mcohanov 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    F-15 heavy? Play Su-27

  • @eli25jk70
    @eli25jk70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    grind? lol take my cash war thunder....

  • @kittyhawk348
    @kittyhawk348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First

  • @combobreak6894
    @combobreak6894 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    COMMENT ANGEAJKFNBASHJ

  • @cody1964
    @cody1964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like tims videos for the historical info but his takes on meta/performance usually align with lvl 17 players who just bought their first premium

    • @TimsVariety
      @TimsVariety  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My intended audience is "the average WT player", not another 10year WT veteran or someone with 6000 hours in DCS and 4 years in the air force flying F-16s.
      I go pretty far out of my way to keep things simple. Example, I tell people to just slow down if they can't turn at mach 1.infinity , instead of going into a 5 minute thing about corner speed and aoa degrees-per-second, so on and so on. This is to say nothing of how often the snail tweaks the flight models, so the more specific I get the sooner the info is outdated. Its a tightrope walk, to be sure.