Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Very entertaining session. How do you come up with your session plan? As in determining what needs to happen, which cars are loaded, empty, etc. and which actions the industry is ready for, For instance having a few loaded cars that need to be pulled out and empties spotted in, etc. You mentioned it takes 3 loaded hoppers to end up with one DDG and one Ethanol which is a cool detail and adds a bit of industrial planning into the mix, not just randomly pulling and spotting cars wherever you feel like. It gives real process flow. And that's really cool! Enjoy your vacation, Tim!
Thanks Shane! It’s actually 4 loads of corn equals on load of DDG and one load of ethanol. I just learned that from research. I know which cars are loads and empties based on their position in the plant. It will probably make more sense in the next video. As the layout grows the operations will become more detailed. Right now things are pretty simple and easy enough that anyone can follow along and have fun. Keep watching! More to come!
I love this video. However.......... them boys at ADM either need to get a different switcher - like maybe an SW1500 (former CSX #1109?) from LTEX, or they at least need to replace the cab windows in that old Alco switcher. This is an HO scale layout, but I am an HO scale lawyer, and I see a very lucrative potential lawsuit against ADM for operating a locomotive with cab windows so opaque as those on that Alco. In HO scale, the settlement could be as much as $1.25! Thanks for another wonderful video. Post script: All this was in jest; don't anybody get their shorts in a wad. I'm no lawyer of any scale at all. Just having fun with the creator of a wonderful layout - one of my very favorites!
Haha! Thanks Mike! Actually, in sticking with the prototype, it’s a remote control unit. (I know I still need to add the remote lights). In real life, these types of facilities are extremely dusty and a unit that is remote controlled from a dude on the ground will have no reason to clean the windows. Plus it helps to hide all the electronics crammed in the cab.
Tim sir, this is another reason I enjoy and love your channel. I mean not just the dedications, modeling and stories but the well planned operations of your layouts. As you work that proto throdall and explain your moves I see the conductor and engineer at the same time. You are the real deal sir! I look forward to the next coming videos and update to sip my coffee too! Well, done... you enjoy that vacation break sir. - Gary
Just a fantastic layout in every way, as for that Alco ....... wow what a wee honey it looks and sounds FANTASTIC I can just feel the heat coming off it and smell the grease and diesel fumes ohhhhhh lovely lovely lovely ! I'm the kind of dude who stops as a diesel truck goes by and treats my nasal senses with a long slowly drawn breth (sick I know) but what ya gonna do lol Keep up the fantastic work Tim Cheers tones1957 (New Zealand)
Thanks! I appreciate it. The switcher is a real blast to run. And it definitely has its own unique sound compared to the EMDs. Stay tuned! More to come.
Great weathering on the hoppers and the S-2. I love seeing that old Alco operating on your layout and the ADM plant is a nice interesting switching operation. Love the video!
Just found your channel and this video is the best model RR switching I've ever seen. Then found out you're an NS engineer. Makes sense. Anyway, been drilling through the rest of your vids and they are gold! Will be modeling a paper plant using your ADM track plan. Thanks and please keep up the inspiring work.
Thank you very much! Hope you enjoy the channel! A lot of my earlier videos was filmed on the previous layout which was featured in the June 2023 issue of Model Railroader. There is a trackplan of that layout in the issue. The current videos are of the new layout that’s under construction. Each month I post a layout update video that shows the progress. Stay tuned! Tim
Of course cameras make everything bigger than they actually are as this beautiful layout looks much better than 2'x8' How superb this is once again proving that one doesn’t need an extraordinarily huge layout to have incredible fun. This is simply gorgeous! Your weathering technique isn’t to be surpassed as i clicked on this video as that quite beautifully filthy ALCo SW-2 ( must buy more ALCo locomotives especially the S-1, S-2 more of my favourite RS-1 & RS-2) and that gorgeously weathered rolling stock! Brilliant, and I've subscribed.
A really impressive operating session. I could really get into a session like that. I know I said it once, but I'll say it again, you've got to love that Alco! Enjoy some much needed R&R.
This was a thoroughly enjoyable instalment, nicely weathered cars in a realistically modelled self contained switching area designed to replicate prototypical operations. Well done! I’ve been a big fan of yours since the previous version of the Seaboard Central and am looking forward to this current layout develop and expand. By the way congratulations on becoming a published author! You know you’ve reached a certain pinnacle of achievement in the hobby when you get a spread in MR!
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed it and the article. It’s actually my second published. The first one was one I did for MRH magazine on the ProtoThrottle, but it’s still an honor. I am currently working on a new article about building the new layout which I hope gets published. Stay tuned! More to come!
Tim, I enjoyed the ops video. Working ADM looks like a fun job and could be an entire model railroad just by itself. Sign me up for the ADM job when I visit!-Tom
i read model railroader as a audio file for the blind and send them to an outfit in colo. i just recently sent them your article about the seaboard central and it has me wanting to get back into model railroading again, something i aint had time for in a long time.
Who were the engineers on the S2 IRL for an ADM plant such as this? Were they seasoned professional railroad men near retirement who took an easy job? Were they men within the company trained to operate whatever switcher the plant had on hand to execute the moves? Either way, as railroading goes, it would be a great job. As model railroading goes, the flawless running, weathering, scenery and sound is simply a treat for the eyes and ears. The ProtoThrottle takes throttles to a whole new level. Your channel is a real binge fest! Thanks!
Thanks for the kind comment. Typically in a facility like this the engine is fitted for remote control. At some point I plan on adding the remote antenna to it. The individual controlling it would be just someone who is RCO qualified. At larger facilities where unit grain trains are received, the road units will often remain there with the cars and be used for unloading the train. In this case it is normally a retired engineer who works it as a part time job. Tim
this is awesome I love switching layouts as is mine!! this is giving me inpiration as I want to eventually model a grocery dist and a sand mine and the sand mine would operate like this!
This is the kind of railroad I want to have and run,I want to learn to switch passenger and freight cars,😮feel that the skills are learning how to adapt and adjust speed and control when switching.
There's a lot of interesting story writing that could be done around that Alco switcher. Perhaps the SC could be the contracted maintenance curator of the unit by ADM. In other words, it would have to leave every now and then for the shop with a "borrowed" SC unit switching in its place. Just some food for thought.
A borrowed unit could show up from time to time but I doubt the S2 would leave the property unless it is moving to scrap. In most prototype cases a mobile contract crew will make repairs on property.
Really like the sound of the S-2. Does the Seaboard Central come onto the ADM grounds to do setouts/pickups, or does everything go onto the pocket track and, say, siding 6?
Very nice! I am wondering though... You have obviously cut the pins off your Kaydees. How are you uncoupling inside the building? I didn't see any pause in the video! Also, I'd hate to be the switchman on that job! You don't give him much time to get the switched! Early quit?
Yes I cut the pins off all my couplers. They are unrealistic. Uncoupling is made with a Kadee uncoupling pick. There a lot in the video that gets edited out. For example a 20 minute long video like the part 3 doesn’t do as well as a much shorter video. Most people will tune out or won’t even click on to see it.
Probably could. It’s a lighter product so the best use is in the larger capacity 4 bay hoppers. These cars are part of a shipper assigned pool that will always come back to this location for DDG loading after emptied.
Great video as always! The ADM plant job looks like it would be fun to operate. Question - does the plant switcher handle the ethanol cars or is that handled by a Seaboard Central crew? Cheers!
Great video. Do you have any experience with the RailPro controller system? And, if you have which system would you prefer? Plus, any pros or cons, of either?
@@SeaboardCentralRailPro looks alot easier to program consists with load shafing (power) control instead of speed matching. Then overall programming ease. Checkout some videos on TH-cam. The Kpack channel... th-cam.com/video/P-X5GwEMXgQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kKsp7q-RdnozLBly Or the Ring Engineering channel... th-cam.com/video/r5OM3KL4vfc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KHnj04pjN9N3IoDR Or the Elkhart Model Railroading Club demonstration.... th-cam.com/video/XgI5Fajb8w8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Q2tOOu6nWCcrQT4y
Thanks! No switchlist for a plant crew like this one. It’s basically loads and empties. Most of it depends on how much space is available in the silos.
Yes on the tank track. The mills I work will have them where the tank cars are connected but not on the grain unloading areas. When we will enter their facility the conductor will have me shove in at a slow restricted speed. He will often notify the plant beforehand of our arrival so they can park their switch engine out of the way.
Normally the large capacity four bay cars haul it. It is lighter than corn and it often called feed ingredients on the Waybills. These loaded DDG cars will eventually go to another industry that I’ll be building on the layout in the future that makes animal food.
I have posted the track plan on the Seaboard Central Facebook page and also my blog on the MRH magazine website. But I can also post one on the community tab here, no problem.
Thanks for replying. I found it. I hate to be a hassle but could you explain the turnouts used. I am trying to establish a track plan based on yours. This is new to me. I can provide my direct email if that would help.
They are New Rail Models Blue Point Switch machines. I have a video on the channel showing how I installed them. As a matter of fact there are a lot of videos on the channel showing how I built the ADM module. I’d invite you to go back and watch the videos where I start building the new layout. I also have a blog on the MRH magazine website where I go in depth on building the new Seaboard Central layout.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Very entertaining session. How do you come up with your session plan? As in determining what needs to happen, which cars are loaded, empty, etc. and which actions the industry is ready for, For instance having a few loaded cars that need to be pulled out and empties spotted in, etc. You mentioned it takes 3 loaded hoppers to end up with one DDG and one Ethanol which is a cool detail and adds a bit of industrial planning into the mix, not just randomly pulling and spotting cars wherever you feel like. It gives real process flow. And that's really cool! Enjoy your vacation, Tim!
Thanks Shane! It’s actually 4 loads of corn equals on load of DDG and one load of ethanol. I just learned that from research.
I know which cars are loads and empties based on their position in the plant. It will probably make more sense in the next video. As the layout grows the operations will become more detailed. Right now things are pretty simple and easy enough that anyone can follow along and have fun. Keep watching! More to come!
Smooth as silk operations! The weathering on the hoppers is spectacular. Great job Tim!
Thanks Gene!
I love this video. However.......... them boys at ADM either need to get a different switcher - like maybe an SW1500 (former CSX #1109?) from LTEX, or they at least need to replace the cab windows in that old Alco switcher. This is an HO scale layout, but I am an HO scale lawyer, and I see a very lucrative potential lawsuit against ADM for operating a locomotive with cab windows so opaque as those on that Alco. In HO scale, the settlement could be as much as $1.25! Thanks for another wonderful video.
Post script: All this was in jest; don't anybody get their shorts in a wad. I'm no lawyer of any scale at all. Just having fun with the creator of a wonderful layout - one of my very favorites!
Haha! Thanks Mike! Actually, in sticking with the prototype, it’s a remote control unit. (I know I still need to add the remote lights). In real life, these types of facilities are extremely dusty and a unit that is remote controlled from a dude on the ground will have no reason to clean the windows. Plus it helps to hide all the electronics crammed in the cab.
@@SeaboardCentral Ah-Ha! I get it now. Thanks for that clarification. Now, I understand much better. Love your videos, man.
Tim sir, this is another reason I enjoy and love your channel. I mean not just the dedications, modeling and stories but the well planned operations of your layouts. As you work that proto throdall and explain your moves I see the conductor and engineer at the same time. You are the real deal sir! I look forward to the next coming videos and update to sip my coffee too! Well, done... you enjoy that vacation break sir. - Gary
Thanks Gary! Glad you enjoy the SC!
Lots of fun operations in that small section! Love it!
Thanks!
Tim-really enjoyed this video. Your ADM mill provides really great switching opportunities. Enjoy your week off!
Thank you!
Enjoyed the realistic speeds and sounds. The narration explained what you were doing and why. Thanks for posting your great model railroad!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it.
Great looking video! Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thanks for watching!
Great looking layout and op session. Keep posting!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Just a fantastic layout in every way, as for that Alco ....... wow what a wee honey it looks and sounds FANTASTIC I can just feel the heat coming off it and smell the grease and diesel fumes ohhhhhh lovely lovely lovely !
I'm the kind of dude who stops as a diesel truck goes by and treats my nasal senses with a long slowly drawn breth (sick I know) but what ya gonna do lol
Keep up the fantastic work Tim
Cheers
tones1957 (New Zealand)
Thanks! I appreciate it. The switcher is a real blast to run. And it definitely has its own unique sound compared to the EMDs. Stay tuned! More to come.
I really enjoyed this Tim! A guy can learn a lot about operations from videos like this. Have a great vacation!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
@@SeaboardCentral Your welcome! I am moving and I can't wait to get my trains back.
That looks like a lot of fun! The late afternoon sun gave a very nice and natural look to the scene. Great modeling, too!
Thanks! Yes it is a lot of fun. I’m surprised how quickly time flies.
Tim LOVED that lighting affect for this one. Took a great video to the next level.... very realistic,
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Patina work is insanely good.
Thanks!
Great weathering on the hoppers and the S-2. I love seeing that old Alco operating on your layout and the ADM plant is a nice interesting switching operation. Love the video!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Excellent operation session great share big enjoy 👍🏻🚂😎 Have a great day today Thanks for sharing the video👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
Just found your channel and this video is the best model RR switching I've ever seen. Then found out you're an NS engineer. Makes sense. Anyway, been drilling through the rest of your vids and they are gold! Will be modeling a paper plant using your ADM track plan. Thanks and please keep up the inspiring work.
Thank you very much! Hope you enjoy the channel! A lot of my earlier videos was filmed on the previous layout which was featured in the June 2023 issue of Model Railroader. There is a trackplan of that layout in the issue. The current videos are of the new layout that’s under construction. Each month I post a layout update video that shows the progress. Stay tuned! Tim
Of course cameras make everything bigger than they actually are as this beautiful layout looks much better than 2'x8' How superb this is once again proving that one doesn’t need an extraordinarily huge layout to have incredible fun. This is simply gorgeous! Your weathering technique isn’t to be surpassed as i clicked on this video as that quite beautifully filthy ALCo SW-2 ( must buy more ALCo locomotives especially the S-1, S-2 more of my favourite RS-1 & RS-2) and that gorgeously weathered rolling stock! Brilliant, and I've subscribed.
Thank you so much! Welcome aboard!
A really impressive operating session. I could really get into a session like that. I know I said it once, but I'll say it again, you've got to love that Alco! Enjoy some much needed R&R.
Thanks! Yes, it is a fun module to operate. Can keep one busy for a while.
Great layout, nice ops. I love the early Alco switchers, nice to see that S2 still doing meaningful work.
Thanks!
Reminds me of my old job,Great job and its so kool to watch a real engineer at work.
Thank you!
I know the blue flag protection is probably already in the works. Your a great railroader.
Thanks! That tank track needs one added for sure.
This was a thoroughly enjoyable instalment, nicely weathered cars in a realistically modelled self contained switching area designed to replicate prototypical operations. Well done!
I’ve been a big fan of yours since the previous version of the Seaboard Central and am looking forward to this current layout develop and expand.
By the way congratulations on becoming a published author! You know you’ve reached a certain pinnacle of achievement in the hobby when you get a spread in MR!
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed it and the article. It’s actually my second published. The first one was one I did for MRH magazine on the ProtoThrottle, but it’s still an honor. I am currently working on a new article about building the new layout which I hope gets published. Stay tuned! More to come!
Lots of good action there Tim, excellent job.Thanks for sharing
Thanks Tom!
Love seeing the old ALCO in action. Great lighting too!!!
Thanks!
Great opps session. Thanks for sharing. Dave
Thanks Dave!
Always fun to visit the layout. Congrats on the MR feature!
Thank you Joseph!
Tim, I enjoyed the ops video. Working ADM looks like a fun job and could be an entire model railroad just by itself. Sign me up for the ADM job when I visit!-Tom
Yes it could. You got it Tom!
Nicely done and nicely explained. Thanks Tim
Thanks Joe!
I could switch for hours..smart looking engine love Alco/MLW engines.
Thanks! Yes it is a fun unit to swap tech with.
This model railroad looks amazing. Very life like.
Thank you!
Great video enjoyed it.
Thanks!
Very good. Now
I’ve gotta go “walk” some rails…
Thanks Rick!
Awesome. Amazing. I love it.
Thanks!
i read model railroader as a audio file for the blind and send them to an outfit in colo. i just recently sent them your article about the seaboard central and it has me wanting to get back into model railroading again, something i aint had time for in a long time.
That’s great Kevin! I hope you do!
Who were the engineers on the S2 IRL for an ADM plant such as this? Were they seasoned professional railroad men near retirement who took an easy job? Were they men within the company trained to operate whatever switcher the plant had on hand to execute the moves? Either way, as railroading goes, it would be a great job. As model railroading goes, the flawless running, weathering, scenery and sound is simply a treat for the eyes and ears. The ProtoThrottle takes throttles to a whole new level. Your channel is a real binge fest! Thanks!
Thanks for the kind comment. Typically in a facility like this the engine is fitted for remote control. At some point I plan on adding the remote antenna to it. The individual controlling it would be just someone who is RCO qualified. At larger facilities where unit grain trains are received, the road units will often remain there with the cars and be used for unloading the train. In this case it is normally a retired engineer who works it as a part time job. Tim
Love how that’s turning out
Thanks!
There is lots of operation potential, like you say, just in that one module.
Great planning and execution of the layout.
Thanks!
Looking good Tim
Thanks!
this is awesome I love switching layouts as is mine!! this is giving me inpiration as I want to eventually model a grocery dist and a sand mine and the sand mine would operate like this!
Thanks!
THANK YOU FOR SUPER DETAIL VIDEO HERE
Thanks for watching!
Can't wait to see the new format!
Stay tuned!
Awesome module !!!
Thanks!
Great video
Thanks Kinny!
Love this.
Thanks!
Looking good.
Thanks!
Nice you answered a lot of questions THANKS
Thanks for watching!
It was well worth the wait. I concur with Gene_J, Smooth as silk.
Thanks Calvin!
New subscription.
Glad to have you aboard!
This is the kind of railroad I want to have and run,I want to learn to switch passenger and freight cars,😮feel that the skills are learning how to adapt and adjust speed and control when switching.
Thanks! It comes down to having a good DCC decoder set up to simulate the realistic speeds
There's a lot of interesting story writing that could be done around that Alco switcher. Perhaps the SC could be the contracted maintenance curator of the unit by ADM. In other words, it would have to leave every now and then for the shop with a "borrowed" SC unit switching in its place. Just some food for thought.
A borrowed unit could show up from time to time but I doubt the S2 would leave the property unless it is moving to scrap. In most prototype cases a mobile contract crew will make repairs on property.
😛😋Can't wait either!!! OPS YEEESSS!
Stay tuned! Coming out this Sunday!
Great video Tim! Are those covered hoppers mostly Athearn Genesis? They all have pretty nice detail.
Thanks! Only three are. The rest are mostly Athearn RTR cars that I’ve upgraded.
Really like the sound of the S-2. Does the Seaboard Central come onto the ADM grounds to do setouts/pickups, or does everything go onto the pocket track and, say, siding 6?
Thank you! Yes, the SC works the tank track and makes pick ups and set offs in the storage yard. Stay tuned for the next episode to see it in action.
Fantastic and entertaining switching operation. The lighting is exceptional. What's your secret?
Thanks! Halogen work shop lights from Home Depot gives it that late afternoon look.
Very nice! I am wondering though... You have obviously cut the pins off your Kaydees. How are you uncoupling inside the building? I didn't see any pause in the video!
Also, I'd hate to be the switchman on that job! You don't give him much time to get the switched! Early quit?
Yes I cut the pins off all my couplers. They are unrealistic. Uncoupling is made with a Kadee uncoupling pick. There a lot in the video that gets edited out. For example a 20 minute long video like the part 3 doesn’t do as well as a much shorter video. Most people will tune out or won’t even click on to see it.
Very informative! I am curious why one of the empty corn hoppers couldn't be used for DDG loading, or is cross contamination not allowed?
Probably could. It’s a lighter product so the best use is in the larger capacity 4 bay hoppers. These cars are part of a shipper assigned pool that will always come back to this location for DDG loading after emptied.
Great video as always! The ADM plant job looks like it would be fun to operate. Question - does the plant switcher handle the ethanol cars or is that handled by a Seaboard Central crew? Cheers!
Thanks! The tank track is switched by the SC crew. Stay tuned for the next op session to see how I do it.
Really enjoyed the operating session that S2 is a great model who made it?
It is made by Atlas and I bought it years and years ago. I sent it to gabigfoottrains@gmail.com for DCC work.
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Great video. Do you have any experience with the RailPro controller system? And, if you have which system would you prefer? Plus, any pros or cons, of either?
Thanks! No, haven’t heard of the RailPro controller system. I am pretty happy with my NCE/ProtoThrottle set up.
@@SeaboardCentralRailPro looks alot easier to program consists with load shafing (power) control instead of speed matching. Then overall programming ease.
Checkout some videos on TH-cam.
The Kpack channel...
th-cam.com/video/P-X5GwEMXgQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kKsp7q-RdnozLBly
Or the Ring Engineering channel...
th-cam.com/video/r5OM3KL4vfc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KHnj04pjN9N3IoDR
Or the Elkhart Model Railroading Club demonstration....
th-cam.com/video/XgI5Fajb8w8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Q2tOOu6nWCcrQT4y
99 minutes to go!
Hope you enjoyed it.
Does the switcher engineer get a list of moves at the start of each shift, then the rest of the moves on the fly as he's operating? Cool video!
Thanks! No switchlist for a plant crew like this one. It’s basically loads and empties. Most of it depends on how much space is available in the silos.
Tim, any thoughts about blue flags to protect ADM?
Yes on the tank track. The mills I work will have them where the tank cars are connected but not on the grain unloading areas. When we will enter their facility the conductor will have me shove in at a slow restricted speed. He will often notify the plant beforehand of our arrival so they can park their switch engine out of the way.
How do you know what is designated a DDG-type car, and what is one used to unload?
Normally the large capacity four bay cars haul it. It is lighter than corn and it often called feed ingredients on the Waybills. These loaded DDG cars will eventually go to another industry that I’ll be building on the layout in the future that makes animal food.
@@SeaboardCentral Thank you Tim 👍
Any way you would be willing to share the track plan for that module?
Just posted it on the community tab
Would you be willing to share the track plan for that module?
I have posted the track plan on the Seaboard Central Facebook page and also my blog on the MRH magazine website. But I can also post one on the community tab here, no problem.
Thanks for replying. I found it. I hate to be a hassle but could you explain the turnouts used. I am trying to establish a track plan based on yours. This is new to me. I can provide my direct email if that would help.
They are New Rail Models Blue Point Switch machines. I have a video on the channel showing how I installed them. As a matter of fact there are a lot of videos on the channel showing how I built the ADM module. I’d invite you to go back and watch the videos where I start building the new layout. I also have a blog on the MRH magazine website where I go in depth on building the new Seaboard Central layout.
Why do wheel sets "vibrate" through the turnouts?
Probably because the cars need more weight. I need to add some.
Perhaps tightening the truck screws a bit would help?