If you have the money to spend, the RX 6700 XT is another amazing option! Can usually be found for $320-$350, offers excellent performance, and to the folks out there who are worried about VRAM and longevity, it comes with 12GB of VRAM! It may be an option worth looking into. 👍
This whole VRAM discussion is a marketing ploy from GPU companies... They just want you to think that 8GB is not sufficient enough so that you shell out more money on 12GB+ GPUs.
You can get the better RX 6700 (Non-XT) for around $280 right now as well. It performs better than the 6650xt as it has more ram, 10gb @ 160bit vs 8gb & 128bit, and more CUs, 36 CUs vs 32 CUs or 256 more stream processors. Both use the same power, but one is obviously more. It is a deal on new egg, but this has been the case from Sapphire for a few weeks now. I bought one last week.
Got one for 270 euros almost brand new and mate does it pack a punch. Only lil' bummer is the 10gb since as we see we're moving to heavier and heavier games but I'd buy it over the 3060ti and 3070 especially for that price
@@phoenixrising4995 I honestly contemplated the Intel 750/70 series before getting the 6700 myself. Part of it was price, the 770's went up in price, and two, it wasn't mature enough for reliability as I actually work on this machine. Though much better, I needed to be able to reliably keep stability. I am looking at a 700 series for my basement gaming PC though, but I may just swap out the 5600 xt I replaced (because it wasn't reliable enough because MSI did not directly cool the Memory on the unit I bought, instead used a sandwich plate of heatpad, plate, another pad, cooler.... it was not good as the memory would over heat and crash.) Not a issue with the Sapphire 6700 though as it has a more direct cooling solution for memory.
@@xonixx5267Yeah, he was actually kind with nividis here putting it against the 6650XT since a lot of times you can get a 6700 or 6700XT for the same price as a 3060 12GB
@@indent566 Wrong! ray tracing will cripple your FPS by 35-50% in most games and forget about playing ray tracking with anything less than the RTX 4080
6:26 Even though the TDP of the RX 6650 XT is 180w, don’t be too worried about it, as I have the same exact variant of the card shown in this video and it draws about 143w under full load at stock.
I'd say that you want to limit power draw then limit FPS to conserve power. Then the 150watt is something you only hit sporadically in the busiest sections of games, and it's much quieter/cooler.
@@Rapscallion2009Def, AMD card love being undervolted. And at the same time be able to overclock b/c of how stable we can make them. I'm willing to bet if people limit lighter games at there max refresh. They can have the card just use 5-20w above idle. If they lock there max fps sshh. Bet somegames will run fine at 120watts. Giving enough leg room afterward. 6000series are can still hold there own.
Title is kinda sorta misleading. You should replace 'everyone' with 'gamers'. Cuda and 12gb VRAM is a damn nice deal if you're an entry level machine learning researcher or basically anyone who does things other than gaming with their GPU. In any case, this was enlightening and thanks for the decent content. Subbed.
No need, 6700XT is so far ahead in rasterized that in all but a few fringe Raytracing cases the 6700XT is either even or beats 3060 even when you turn RT on. Unless your use case specifically requires like, NVENC, 3060 is overpriced and underperforms in 95% of normal gaming use. 6700XT goes on sale for $315 regularly new, 3060 12GB is hard to even find for $315 used. I don't know why Nvidia kids keep paying more for less, it's crazy.
I built a budget PC using 2nd hand parts couple months ago. For GPU, I was going to go with a used RX 5700XT however my master's work would require to learn ai/ml. So sadly, I had to hunt a 2nd hand 3060 12 gb. Thankfully, I got it around 190$. I would recommend it to anyone doing cuda/ml related work on a budget.
This. This a hundred times over. A brand new Zotac 3060 12gb was 250 USD, and I think an Asus dual or MSI can still be found on Amazon and Newegg for under 300 brand new. They're workhorse cards- not as fast as the newer ones, but when those start OOMing at 8GB, you'll be thankful for the extra cache.
I'd sooner have the 12GB 3060. Here in the UK there's a £30 difference between the two cards which is a negligible amount. Plus, I've currently got a GTX 1070 and going from 8GB to 8GB in 2023 seems crazy, especially when the aforementioned card is 7 years old.
@@Sergmanny46 You just saw a 12 minute video proving you wrong and you still say that 🤣 VRAM is often a marketing strategy, sure 12GB is better for future-proofness but if it can't compete with a cheaper 8GB GPU then it won't keep up when games actually demand 12 GB of VRAM
@@pedrovignoli1124 Which is why you buy a decent GPU with decent components and sufficient VRAM. It's a balance. If you have 24 GB but shit components you're not going to get too far. It's just memory at the end of the day. Same goes for good components but only 4-8GB VRAM. Stutters will happen either way. But people being so stingy/poor they won't do that and instead keep buying whatever cheapest GPU they can find, even if it's running on old generation/borderline outdated technology. Why do you think every single youtuber "tech" and their mothers are calling the 4060 ti trash and tell everyone to not buy it? Because despite being a decent GPU, it has low VRAM. The 16GB version however will be much better simply because it has more memory for the 1080/1440 demanding games.
we buy Nvidia, because we are NOT teenagers that are using PC only for games. Productivity wise even 6850 score is similar to 3060 and my 2070 in some GPU accelerated workflows. Without proper support for productivity applications, no matter how great is this card for gaming it could be not just slow, but could be completely useless if it is not supported at all.
@@greendude0420 good for you mate, I've been trying to build a PC and I was certain but every staircase I took led to a wall. So yeah I'm gonna be waiting a bit longer now. I've Decided on a 1080ti or 3060, there's no need for me at least to spend more than that on a gpu to play 1080p high. And seeing how well black myth wukong runs on these settings I'm happy to say it'll go on for the generation of consoles
I bought my RTX 3060 around the time that it came out. It's a somewhat decent card, However, I only bought it because it was the only one I could find back during the GPU shortage. I honestly just want a GPU that was better than my old 9800 GT
RX 6800 has been incredible for gaming. Crushes all the Ultra/High settings. RT is fine, but I almost never notice massive improvements in reflections and lighting enhancing the gaming experience because I'm too busy playing the game.
@@renicovandyk6408Yup, a good realtime GI model will look just as a raytraced one while being much more performant. Raytracing has a big edge in reflections, but not a deal breaker.
The problem is 6650 XT only has 8GB of vram. I know the 12G on 3060 is kind of excessive, but between excessive and not enough, I choose excessive when it comes to vram.
The 3060 is a great option if you're doing video/3D rendering, modeling, as well as AI/ML programs. Most workstation software is built around Nvidia tech and the AMD cards tend to have compatibility problems. That said if you're buying a gpu to game, the AMD cards are the way to go. The 3060 (now available for $280 USD) would make a fantastic card for people wanting to build a workstation PC on a budget.
^ This. because Nvidia's cuda cores still top the charts for AI use and content creation and these are both vram gated, the 3060 12GB will remain a solid budget performer for these uses. On the other hand, there are AMD and Intel options that smack the 3060 12GB up now at the same price without compromising on that vram (though Intel's support is still so niche it's just a toy at the moment). The winner in this case is just not as clear cut as the video maker makes it out to be. As a price sensitive consumer, I'd jump on team Red or Blue the moment either outperforms Nvidia in content creation for less buck. But that's still one or two generations away, so for now I'm stuck with abusive partner Nvidia. In the meantime, the rtx3060's performance is not so bad that it makes life not worth living. Although whoever came up with the 8gb version really should be hung, drawn, and quartered...
No such thing as excessive vram. It will just mean that the card will age a lot better. 3060 12GB will probably be able to play GTA 6. I doubt any 8GB card will be able to without being a stuttery mess.
@@askeladden450 I wouldn't say that. Respectively the 3060ti outperforms the 3060 in every game and it has only 8gb VRAM, even in 1440p gaming a 3060ti is a stronger card. VRAM is for sure an important factor, however is not the main one in GPU performance. 8gb cards will run GTA VI just fine, maybe needing a bit of help of dlss or fsr, but for sure you can have a 60+ fps experience with cards like 6650xt, 4060 or a Rx 7600.
Performance In 1080p gaming, the RX 6600 XT is generally 3-8% faster on average12. At 1440p, the RTX 3060 tends to perform slightly better, with about a 4% advantage2. At 4K resolution, the RTX 3060 pulls further ahead with up to 21% better performance2. so why would I get a Rx 6600 xt if they are the same price there is no price to performance here in canada clearly Nvidia is better
I have both AMD and Nvidia cards. I can explain very quickly why Nvidia is better. 1 The future is not for dumb performance, but for technologies like DLSS 3, soon we will reach the ceiling of simple performance and we will need technologies. Nvidia is investing heavily in their development. Their application is more convenient, useful and simpler. RTX 3060 in many years will be relevant thanks to future technologies, and AMD will turn into a pumpkin.
exactly how? didnt they just threw theyr entire 30 series user base under the bus with DLSS 2 (NOT compatible with 30 series, and you can bet your ass that DLSS 3 is not gonna be compatible with 40 series, i ASSURE it IS compatible they just need some artificial way to force people to buy newer cards every 2 years, FSR may look like shit but it works an any card on any game even on Nvidia cards, and if you dont push it too hard it actually looks good 720-1080 upscale, or 1080 to 1440, dont go crazy trying to upscale 480-4k
" future technology". Where is it? I have 3060ti and there's no dlss3 support. Don't know what future you're talking about. I'm thinking to sell this crap and buy 6700xt 😢
This is the most copium Nvidia fanboy comment i've seen. Their "technology" is made just to give the false sense that the product is better than it actually is by giving you fake frames to boost up that sweet, sweet framerate number, while crippling the amount of VRAM and its memory bit bus. The application argument is also complete bogus, you have clearly not used the AMD Adrenalin control panel before, there's way more features there for things like overclocking, while Nvidia is still on their oudated 2000's looking control panel. Also, i really don't understand why you are mentioning DLSS 3, if the talk is about 3060, which only supports DLSS 2 and has maybe 5% less rasterized performance than a 4060, while costing at least a $100-$150 less than a 4060.
yeah u left the fact that those prices are for US markets. there are other markets with different prices. in my country the regular RX6600XT is on avg more expensive than the 3060 12 gbs. go figure. so dont listen to this guy right away check ur local prices first
Solid card and a solid buy...and unlike the AMD card you got RTX...the 3060 cost more for a reason...this video doesn't entirely make a fair comparison of the two...at 280 you did very well.
Well i bought rtx 3060 last year for 450 eur. Its much cheaper today yes, but before that i've used gtx 1050 ti and after upgrading to rtx 3060 my pc gaming experience got tremendously better. I wish i could save a few bucks by not overpaying for Nvidia card and buying AMD's variant but at the time gpu shortage was active and 3060 was just the only option. Still i'm happy with my card anyways.
As other people said, the 6700 10gb is $280 right now, much cheaper than the 3060. For $10 more or so, the 6700 XT 12gb is also a MUCH better performer
i bough the RTX 3060 with pc build and i dont regret it! Ofcourse if i would build my pc , i just gone with best possible stuff, but nowadays there shortages and you the best out of it!
Nvidia got some software support that I need for productivity, some of them are NVENC and Nvidia Broadcast, also stuff I need for 3D modelling/rendering that AMD don't support and instead using your CPU for work on them. Again, people should choose GPU depends on their own use-case, I don't only use it for gaming, if I do, I already picked AMD Radeon
YEAH, NOPE FAKE NEWS. AMD has OBS encoding. They even upgraded the support in RDNA2. The quality might not be as good because it's not some AI thing, but you do get full support and it works. Only no brain people say it isn't there. It's there and saying it isn't is like saying water isn't wet, and the rest of us look at you and ask wtf are you smoking.
@@JohnDoe-ip3oq i can use obs on my igpu 5700g! still, just panic bought a 3060 12gb figuring it would be a little more future proof- i was eyeing the 6600 being £100 less but figured you can't just add more v-ram later and wanted it to last 10 years like my 660 ti! stupid thing is, i mostly web browse and file hoard so drive space is my priority- i get cheap large storage mech drives to hold movies and emulate older games. arrgh! denating cancilling befor it gets sent out on midnight...
Sir I'm Planning to build a budget line-up pc with a i5 12400f & Rx 6650XT So will I be able to just record my gameplays and doing a little bit editing & upload to my gaming TH-cam channel 😊 please reply Sir
I believe you miss a few points. The rtx 3060's popularity is likely due to the fact it might be cheaper than the rx6650xt in several markets. For instance in some asian markets the 3060 is cheaper than the rx6600xt. The 3060ti might be cheaper than the 6700xt, etc. Also, OEM's might pair nvidia cards into their prebuilts more than AMD so thats another margin where nvidia would win. Its not as easy as ''AMD is cheaper" because AMD tends to generally be cheaper in only a few markets. NOT in every market. And the top 2 cards on steam, the 1060 and 1650, had plenty of sales on laptops too, a market AMD completely sucks and is absent in meaning their share is even lower by that. To sum up, AMD is only competitive in DIY markets. They fail in the professional market (nvidia has better productivity), fail in the laptop market and fail in the pre built market on GPU's. Why do you think nvidia outsells AMD by such a large margin?
Im using a 980ti, but starting to get problems with games crashing back to windows. im hoping a new GPU will solve the issue. The newer RX 7600 seems to have this slightly beat for £18 more here in uk.
Ha! You must be talking about Starfield. My 980ti CTDs anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour and a half, but it always, sooner or later, CTDs. Well, it might not be the 980. Can't tell.😑
I think Intel Arc a750 costs 200 and better than both of them and now with latest driver update, they made it much better. Intel keeps improving its performance
In india currently rtx3060ti is 424$ approx and 6700 xt is 404$ approx. Both are asus dual models. So amd is the clear winner imo. I recently bought a used 3060ti for 175$ approx and now i know why i got that deal. 8 gb will not gonna cut it in upcoming titles.
Faster and cheaper. Simple as that! Even nearly a year after this vid posted. I just picked up the exact card you are highlighting for around 250usd. Blows away my old GTX 1060 3gb. In a B550 mobo with Ryzen 5 3600x my performance is consistent with your results.
For used bargains, the 5700xt regularly goes for under 200$ shipped from China. It doesn't perform that much worse compared to the 6600xt. For an even more budget option, there's the 5700 non xt which can be flashed to the xt bios to squeeze out a big more performance.
But which would I want to buy for a workstation PC that only occasionally gets used for minimal gaming? Going to build a new workstation PC in the next couple months.
I have the 6650XT and I’m running it on heavy settings with OC Ram at 3600hz and I’m getting 165fps (consistently) on MW2 on Ultra settings 1080p. It’s been so nice and I was able to get a better cpu & rgb fans for the price difference I saved. I was close to getting the 3060 but I’m so glad I didn’t.
@@Michiko.x have had an xfx 6600xt and 6800xt since launch and have had 1 driver issue with 1 game if that tells u anything. biggest issue i see is people not knowing how to properly install drivers or are upgrading from and nvidia card and dont use ddu to clean the old drivers off the pc first. also people going on youtube and copy pasting oc profiles and thinking its a one fits all type of deal and start getting issues and blame a driver lol.
I have a Zotac RTX 3060 and I have never regretted buying it, I can game, edit videos in 4k, stream smoothly in it with generally no issues at all, so no, buying a card that has important purpose for your needs is never a no-brainer move in my opinion. Nvidia cards = If you generally make contents AMD cards = If you want pure gaming performance
I got a Gigabyte RTX4080 OC 16GB recently which I love for gaming, but coming from a RX6600 I sure do miss the 'Adrenalin' Software that comes with the RX GPUs. It was so much easier to setup for streaming games with a cam and Mic etc etc, Perfect, Unlike the Nvidia mess of separate programs running , and the camera position you can only have 1 of four corners to a set size of theirs, it sux. Cheers.
be warned. i upgraded from a 1660 spuer to a 6600xt and yes i get more fps but all my game now run like shit with stutter spikes game crashes . custom resolutions not working . recording and streaming looking like crap just out right distroyed my gaming enjoyment . do your self a favour . dont buy amd gpus . i never will again regardless of cost
Agreed, though unfortunately for this price point you're required to purchase the 3x fan. The vast majority of 2x fan 6650 are $350++, and now the 3060 is $250. Not only that, but I think the majority of 3060 purchasers are similar to myself, and needing something with the smallest form factor possible, and the 3060 is available in the single fan variant. Trust me, I really, really want to support AMD over NVIDIA like the entirety of humanity, but I need a mini GPU, and as of now, the 3060 is the best bang for your buck with the mini gpus. Please tell me you know something that I don't tho? Is there a different single md1 md2/ single fan option in this price point, that has similar performance?
I guess you won't find any radeon GPU with single fan config (as of now), but that's very specific... 2 fan config is where mini build still use. Have you seen the Asrock Challenger for RX 6650 xt or Sapphire 7600? both of them have a relatively small form factor.
I had used a RX 6700 XT for over a year. Experienced continuous black screens and constantly rolling back and updating drivers to keep stable. Having now a RTX 3060 TI has been a breath of fresh air. No more random crashes and much more smoother performance.
Same for me that’s the big problem with amd, yea it’s good for price to performance but the big problem is drivers the random crashes, black screens and just shitty driver updates would make me want to pull my hair out, but now that I got a RTX 4080 it’s just so much better with just stability and reliability.
Same, didn't had a single problem, probably those people are not uninstalling and reinstalling drivers properly, using DDU (display driver uninstaller) @@yomurita
I personally main (but not solely) Nvidia gpus over the past ~20+ years and have experienced more driver issues or game bugs on them than the couple instances of AMD Radeon software for gaming. I’m yet to have any driver issue on AMD (other than hair works - Nvidia tech and one game glitch which was fixed eventually). It’s much of a muchness imo. Both brands have given me great gaming memories and experiences and regardless of the choice of GPU people have: Intel, AMD or Nvidia…. We’re all gamers so be happy for each other, help each other and not criticise other for their choice of hardware!!!
here by us we dont get the 6650, well not that i have seen, but we do get the rx 6700 speedster. Would you still prefer the 6700speedster over the 3060 12gb? and does brand name make a differrence?
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3060 is the only way to go if you have a creators centric workload, unless you wanna spend up to a RTX 3080/3080 Ti level territory to get that 10GB/12GB VRAM.
Since I'm more familiar Nvidia I plan on staying with their products, but I can see if someone wants to save a bit of change they have other options for similar to a bit better performance. I recently found a 3060 12 GB for $300, not so much as to call it cheap but considering it was new and 30% off I just had to bite the bullet and snag one. Mainly considering ive been using a 1060 3GB for a LONG time now, like 6-8 years or so I just had to finally upgrade cause all the games I like or want to play require a minimum of a 4+ GB graphics card. I have yet to get it yet as it should arrive in the next 4 days or so, but I'm absolutely stoked to get it and cant wait to not be forced to play games with all settings on off or low and look like pixels or garbage with very spotty or all around low FPS.
@@christine-kht I mean depending on financial situations (though mine isnt the best) I would say it was pretty worth it, I can play pretty much every game I have on max quality and still be above 60 FPS. Even games like cyberpunk I can max the quality on, although I do still need to use DLSS for it to be above 60 FPS but DLSS is awesome anyways so its not a downside imo. I would highly recommend someone who is looking into upgrading their graphics card to get a 3060 cause it definitely worth the $300 I paid for it. I looked recently and some like the MSI 3060 12gb one went down to ~$275. If someone has the spare money to get one I would highly recommend.
I just got a 3060 not a ti but a normal 3060 the 3060 is alot better it should cost MORE it is better that the price the price is not as high as its performance @christinekuhrt1179
so if we want to learn editing(4k level iff possible) and animation or in 3d modeling ( like game development ) and i am under the budget of 1000 usd ( i don't mind pc without rgb or fanciness ) what component should i pick ??? please help me anyone ......btw love ur video a lot and one more question dlss is much better then another on noo so we are gonna use dlss so why not 3060 or 3060ti ????
If you are doing 3D modeling then Nvidia's probably your best bet (Arc is better then AMD in Blender but still). If you want to go used I would go with a 2080ti for between $300 and $400. For new, your best bet if you need 12gb of vram is the 3060,
@@IdeasAreBulletproofif you're going used, don't get a 2080ti. grab 2 2070 supers, since most productivity software still support nvlink, and the 16 gigs of vram you get when running 2 2070 supers is SUPER nice (and all in all you have way more cuda cores to work with than a 2080ti). each 2070 super could be got for around 170$, and I've personally never seen a 2080ti lower than 400 USD
Hi people, I just bought my Sapphire RX 6650 XT upgrading from RX 580 and after installation when I turn on my pc the monitor for about 5 seconds is saying Input Not Supported. Why? My build is B450 Aorus pro-R5 3600 stock-24 gb 3200mhz Win11 and last Radeon driver. Did some experience the same issue?
ya but that Radeon GPU can't do shit about 'work'' related stuff: 3D rendering, Photo/Video editing etc. While Nvidea GPU can do everything. for price to performance Play & Work just buy RTX-2070 super
Idk man I have a 3060 and a 6800xt. While the 6800xt is a beast and delivers high fps its problematic and often stuttering after driver updates. But the 3060 always runs nice and smooth and is never a problem
@@ZachsTechTurf it started after the most recent AMD driver update. Might sound kinda odd but if I run state of decay 2 it starts then any game I run after that the stuttering continues. I have removed SOD2 and seams ok but I haven't play much yet. Any ideas?
Did 3 things and been running smoothly sofar. 1. Reseated all gpu connections 2.uninstalled/reinstalled drivers 3 Uninstalled/reinstalled SOD2 Fingers crossed 🤞 😂
How would this comparison hold up now? Currently am looking at upgrading parts of my am4 rig as I don't have the budget to go am5 just yet. Cpu: ryzen 7 2700 Gpu: 2070 super Motherboard: gigabyte b450 gaming x Ram: 16gb Possibly a bigger case as well
Only problem here is that 3060 comes with 12 gb ram also, whereas the 6650xt only comes with 8. But that difference counts if you plan to game on 1440p, which the 3060 is perfectly capable on doing in the 12gb variant.
I think the 3060 is literally the only Nvidia card that matters at this point 🤣🤣 I could get the 3060 for 305€ and the RX 6650XT for 245€ with Starfield tho so even then I'd go for the RX 6650XT
Rx 6700xt has 12 gb of vram and much much better performance with basically the same price as the 3060 of not cheaper for some variants with the same vram
@@crossdaboss8914 The 6700 XT is like 345€ for the Sapphire version. I don't know about how good that thing is honestly, but it looks like ass. Meanwhile the MSI RTX 3060 is 305€ which definitely makes it a worthy deal for some people.
As a game developer and not a gamer, the RTX line is all I'll ever use anymore. You can't get better results with renders and procedural generation. Not to mention when testing the reliability is unbeatable. As for playing games, hard core that is and not just for research play for ideas. I can't really say what gpu would be better. I just don't game like that anymore. But for developing my go to will always be NVIDIA. However when I get back into gaming one day after retirement or if the earge to actually game comes back, I'll build a few different pc's and edit this comment to say what one I feel is superior.
The NVidia has ray tracing... it also has 12gb of Vram.... Almost double that of the cheaper one. A quick TH-cam comparison video shows that the NVidia performs great. Almost doubling fps in most games compared to a 1660 gtx, which also has no ray tracing, similar to the cheaper one on this video. (Also your sponsor looks super sketchy and i hope no one here actually gives them any personal information)
@@ScrakSFMs I play a wide variety of games. The 1660 or any card with 6 to 8 gb of vram because as soon as expolsions start happening on screen or chaos or multiple things in gerner, where the 3060 has 12 gb of vram, so most of the time it doesnt even struggle. To buy a 1660 gtx oc , with multi monitor support, and vr, youd expect it to hand 1440 p, which it does well. Any games that have alot going on in a scence such as expolions tress blowing, all impact the vram. If you have 6, its gonna use it all, sometimes needing more, which is where the 8gb card comes in, but it pointless as you could just get the 12gb and not have to worry. Not to mention no need to change power supplies.
Bro, that's a big issue. I don't know if you fixed it already, but you definitely need to see what's up. Maybe your cooling isn't right, or maybe the GPU is defective or broken in some way. Check if the fans work properly, and maybe take it apart and see if it has proper thermal paste applied. There are a lot of other factors that can cause this issue. Let me know if you need more help.
Comparing Nvidia to AMD is like comparing Huawei to Apple. You pay for quality. Nvidia drivers are very polished, and the problems are quite rare. Whereas with AMD I hear complaints about drivers all the time.. + 3060 productivity wise is 6800-6800XT level. Also 6600xt only has 8 gigs of VRAM so that GPU is already dead since 2022-2023.
As said in the video the problems with AMD drivers are more perception than reality. It's unlikely you hear complaints about AMD drivers all the time, unless you happen to be hanging around with a crowd that is just almost all AMD users. All the actual data says Nvidia has about the same level of driver problems. What can't you do with 8Gb of memory? What games are no longer playable on high settings at 1080p? That's the target resolution of these cards.
@@loganmedia1142 What can't you do with 8Gb of memory? Every game ported from PS5 basically and almost every game that came in years 2022-2023 and every single game that will come since then. Yes you can play them if you put textures to medium lol.
Unless you are a professional streamer AMD is going to be better. But if you preice range is $400-$600 get the 4070. It has 12gb of vram and has AV1 encoding. But if you are around the 400-500 range then stay with the 6800, it wont be noticeable unless you are spending thousands of dollars on a camera/sound board/mixer ect. For an average gamer AMD is beyond good enough.
AMD supports streaming. It's a literal fact. Nvidia fanboys who say otherwise are lying, and there has been upgrades for the encoding quality for a while now.
@@Jvirtual97 Arc is good for streaming, not performance. There are driver issues and it's not power efficient for the performance. It's better now, but the chip is still fundamentally flawed and better off ignoring until arc 2 comes out. I'd go arc over a 3050, but not a 3060 12gb. 6700 is better than both, no software or driver issues. If you already have an arc card, might as well hold until you need better. The drivers can improve further, no point wasting money on side grades.
@@Jvirtual97 I dont have any first hand experience with the A770 or A780 but from what ive been seeing they are going to be awesome for streaming and have good price to performance. IDK why everyone seem to be putting efficiency in the conversation all the time. In my opinion power draw shouldnt even be a conversation unless your getting into the 300-350w range. Even an RTX 2060 pulls close to 200w under full load.
Either get a 3060TI or go AMD and get a top tier card for relatively cheap. Even the RX 5700XT is still a great buy for entry level builders and it's relatively very cheap nowadays.
I just bought one ASUS 3060 12GB VRAM for 339€ and let me tell you, the card is a little diamond. 12GB VRAM also let me disable paging file. I'd also wait for the 7600 but has only 8GB VRAM and it's more expensive. Furthermore, I only go for Nvidia. The cheapest 6700XT is 420€ but consumes a lot more energy. Anyway, depending on the price, you can't go wrong on either one.
yeah but thats a 12 gb vs 8 gb, so..?? like if I'm doing something other then gaming will a 6650 still be able to handle the same amount of stress as the 3060 12gb?
So am not really gonna focus on just gaming I want to play good games at the same time, I do want to pursue a career in programming/coding and ai So which one is better amd or nvidia
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If you have the money to spend, the RX 6700 XT is another amazing option! Can usually be found for $320-$350, offers excellent performance, and to the folks out there who are worried about VRAM and longevity, it comes with 12GB of VRAM! It may be an option worth looking into. 👍
I just picked one up from newegg for $320 with a free game
in my country they are expensive u_u
@@Renekor same brother
For sure! Love the price point of the 6700XT as well
This whole VRAM discussion is a marketing ploy from GPU companies... They just want you to think that 8GB is not sufficient enough so that you shell out more money on 12GB+ GPUs.
You can get the better RX 6700 (Non-XT) for around $280 right now as well. It performs better than the 6650xt as it has more ram, 10gb @ 160bit vs 8gb & 128bit, and more CUs, 36 CUs vs 32 CUs or 256 more stream processors. Both use the same power, but one is obviously more. It is a deal on new egg, but this has been the case from Sapphire for a few weeks now. I bought one last week.
I got my Intel ARC A770. I'm good for awhile.
Got one for 270 euros almost brand new and mate does it pack a punch. Only lil' bummer is the 10gb since as we see we're moving to heavier and heavier games but I'd buy it over the 3060ti and 3070 especially for that price
@@phoenixrising4995 I honestly contemplated the Intel 750/70 series before getting the 6700 myself. Part of it was price, the 770's went up in price, and two, it wasn't mature enough for reliability as I actually work on this machine. Though much better, I needed to be able to reliably keep stability. I am looking at a 700 series for my basement gaming PC though, but I may just swap out the 5600 xt I replaced (because it wasn't reliable enough because MSI did not directly cool the Memory on the unit I bought, instead used a sandwich plate of heatpad, plate, another pad, cooler.... it was not good as the memory would over heat and crash.) Not a issue with the Sapphire 6700 though as it has a more direct cooling solution for memory.
Don't forget it has pcie x16
@@crawfordbrown75 Throughput may not actually need the full x16 bus. But yes, it can help with other factors so it is a win.
Finally, someone agrees with me. I’ve been saying this for so long. AMD is better value all around
Ong bro i got a 6700 xt 12g for 350$ instead of a 3060 12g for 350$ and im very satisfied with my choice
@@xonixx5267Yeah, he was actually kind with nividis here putting it against the 6650XT since a lot of times you can get a 6700 or 6700XT for the same price as a 3060 12GB
BuT RaY tRaCiNg Is bEtTeR oN NvIdiA
@@theofficialpollo FAXXXX
@@indent566 Wrong! ray tracing will cripple your FPS by 35-50% in most games and forget about playing ray tracking with anything less than the RTX 4080
6:26 Even though the TDP of the RX 6650 XT is 180w, don’t be too worried about it, as I have the same exact variant of the card shown in this video and it draws about 143w under full load at stock.
I don't think anyone is worried about a 180w gpu, and if you are you shouldn't be buying it. Gpus have been at that watt range for the last 10 years
I'd say that you want to limit power draw then limit FPS to conserve power. Then the 150watt is something you only hit sporadically in the busiest sections of games, and it's much quieter/cooler.
TDP is not power draw.
@@AutieTortieTDP=thermal design power
@@Rapscallion2009Def, AMD card love being undervolted. And at the same time be able to overclock b/c of how stable we can make them.
I'm willing to bet if people limit lighter games at there max refresh. They can have the card just use 5-20w above idle. If they lock there max fps sshh. Bet somegames will run fine at 120watts. Giving enough leg room afterward.
6000series are can still hold there own.
Title is kinda sorta misleading. You should replace 'everyone' with 'gamers'. Cuda and 12gb VRAM is a damn nice deal if you're an entry level machine learning researcher or basically anyone who does things other than gaming with their GPU. In any case, this was enlightening and thanks for the decent content. Subbed.
Would you consider a comparison of the RTX 3060-12GB with the RX 6700xt-12GB which have very similar prices recently?
No need, 6700XT is so far ahead in rasterized that in all but a few fringe Raytracing cases the 6700XT is either even or beats 3060 even when you turn RT on. Unless your use case specifically requires like, NVENC, 3060 is overpriced and underperforms in 95% of normal gaming use. 6700XT goes on sale for $315 regularly new, 3060 12GB is hard to even find for $315 used. I don't know why Nvidia kids keep paying more for less, it's crazy.
Yep, even better value if it's at the right price!
In germany prices for the RTX 3060 are way cheaper right now 🤷♂
6700xt beats 3060 out of the water don't even bother looking for comparisons
The 3060 12gb is on sale now 240-300 at my best buy
I built a budget PC using 2nd hand parts couple months ago. For GPU, I was going to go with a used RX 5700XT however my master's work would require to learn ai/ml. So sadly, I had to hunt a 2nd hand 3060 12 gb. Thankfully, I got it around 190$. I would recommend it to anyone doing cuda/ml related work on a budget.
what a deal !
just the comment i needed to see. wasn't sure which nvidia gpu to get on a budget
Yes, I got mine too at 190$ second hand.
This. This a hundred times over. A brand new Zotac 3060 12gb was 250 USD, and I think an Asus dual or MSI can still be found on Amazon and Newegg for under 300 brand new. They're workhorse cards- not as fast as the newer ones, but when those start OOMing at 8GB, you'll be thankful for the extra cache.
dunno whats going on but the 3060 12gb is $290 rn
That is too expensive compared to the rx 6650 xt for the price
Well that was a year ago now it’s more because of inflation…
I'd sooner have the 12GB 3060. Here in the UK there's a £30 difference between the two cards which is a negligible amount. Plus, I've currently got a GTX 1070 and going from 8GB to 8GB in 2023 seems crazy, especially when the aforementioned card is 7 years old.
Base 3060 12gb is still worse 😂
You're definitely going to regret that decision. 8gb for gaming in 2023? Lol. 12gb-16gb is the bare minimum now.
@@Sergmanny46 You just saw a 12 minute video proving you wrong and you still say that 🤣 VRAM is often a marketing strategy, sure 12GB is better for future-proofness but if it can't compete with a cheaper 8GB GPU then it won't keep up when games actually demand 12 GB of VRAM
@@pedrovignoli1124 Which is why you buy a decent GPU with decent components and sufficient VRAM. It's a balance. If you have 24 GB but shit components you're not going to get too far. It's just memory at the end of the day. Same goes for good components but only 4-8GB VRAM. Stutters will happen either way.
But people being so stingy/poor they won't do that and instead keep buying whatever cheapest GPU they can find, even if it's running on old generation/borderline outdated technology.
Why do you think every single youtuber "tech" and their mothers are calling the 4060 ti trash and tell everyone to not buy it? Because despite being a decent GPU, it has low VRAM. The 16GB version however will be much better simply because it has more memory for the 1080/1440 demanding games.
@@pedrovignoli1124 It's not futureproof anyway, because no amount of memory can make up for the GPU itself.
we buy Nvidia, because we are NOT teenagers that are using PC only for games. Productivity wise even 6850 score is similar to 3060 and my 2070 in some GPU accelerated workflows. Without proper support for productivity applications, no matter how great is this card for gaming it could be not just slow, but could be completely useless if it is not supported at all.
Get a 4090 broke boy
@@Lilreepooain't we all broke after paying for a GPU
Put my fries in the bag bro
@@Nero_9000haha me who just bought an elusive 3070ti 😂
@@greendude0420 good for you mate, I've been trying to build a PC and I was certain but every staircase I took led to a wall. So yeah I'm gonna be waiting a bit longer now. I've Decided on a 1080ti or 3060, there's no need for me at least to spend more than that on a gpu to play 1080p high. And seeing how well black myth wukong runs on these settings I'm happy to say it'll go on for the generation of consoles
I bought my RTX 3060 around the time that it came out. It's a somewhat decent card, However, I only bought it because it was the only one I could find back during the GPU shortage. I honestly just want a GPU that was better than my old 9800 GT
RX 6800 has been incredible for gaming. Crushes all the Ultra/High settings. RT is fine, but I almost never notice massive improvements in reflections and lighting enhancing the gaming experience because I'm too busy playing the game.
Normal rasterization looks exactly the same as RT for me tbh
@@renicovandyk6408 RT does look better, but not $500-1000 better. Stop to look at a puddle or a reflection once ever 100 hours.
@@renicovandyk6408Yup, a good realtime GI model will look just as a raytraced one while being much more performant. Raytracing has a big edge in reflections, but not a deal breaker.
The problem is 6650 XT only has 8GB of vram. I know the 12G on 3060 is kind of excessive, but between excessive and not enough, I choose excessive when it comes to vram.
6700xt is still a better option
The 3060 is a great option if you're doing video/3D rendering, modeling, as well as AI/ML programs. Most workstation software is built around Nvidia tech and the AMD cards tend to have compatibility problems.
That said if you're buying a gpu to game, the AMD cards are the way to go. The 3060 (now available for $280 USD) would make a fantastic card for people wanting to build a workstation PC on a budget.
^ This. because Nvidia's cuda cores still top the charts for AI use and content creation and these are both vram gated, the 3060 12GB will remain a solid budget performer for these uses.
On the other hand, there are AMD and Intel options that smack the 3060 12GB up now at the same price without compromising on that vram (though Intel's support is still so niche it's just a toy at the moment).
The winner in this case is just not as clear cut as the video maker makes it out to be. As a price sensitive consumer, I'd jump on team Red or Blue the moment either outperforms Nvidia in content creation for less buck. But that's still one or two generations away, so for now I'm stuck with abusive partner Nvidia. In the meantime, the rtx3060's performance is not so bad that it makes life not worth living. Although whoever came up with the 8gb version really should be hung, drawn, and quartered...
No such thing as excessive vram. It will just mean that the card will age a lot better. 3060 12GB will probably be able to play GTA 6. I doubt any 8GB card will be able to without being a stuttery mess.
@@askeladden450 I wouldn't say that. Respectively the 3060ti outperforms the 3060 in every game and it has only 8gb VRAM, even in 1440p gaming a 3060ti is a stronger card. VRAM is for sure an important factor, however is not the main one in GPU performance. 8gb cards will run GTA VI just fine, maybe needing a bit of help of dlss or fsr, but for sure you can have a 60+ fps experience with cards like 6650xt, 4060 or a Rx 7600.
The 3060 12 gb going for as cheap as $280 on Amazon, I am think I'm going with that option instead of the week 8gb the 6700 has.
AMD best performance
@@NarkoHamponTV extra vram can help with things other then gaming tho, plus its more futureproof
Performance
In 1080p gaming, the RX 6600 XT is generally 3-8% faster on average12.
At 1440p, the RTX 3060 tends to perform slightly better, with about a 4% advantage2.
At 4K resolution, the RTX 3060 pulls further ahead with up to 21% better performance2. so why would I get a Rx 6600 xt if they are the same price there is no price to performance here in canada clearly Nvidia is better
I have both AMD and Nvidia cards. I can explain very quickly why Nvidia is better. 1 The future is not for dumb performance, but for technologies like DLSS 3, soon we will reach the ceiling of simple performance and we will need technologies. Nvidia is investing heavily in their development. Their application is more convenient, useful and simpler. RTX 3060 in many years will be relevant thanks to future technologies, and AMD will turn into a pumpkin.
You are 100% right.
Except they only make new technologies available to their new cards so your point makes no sense.
exactly how? didnt they just threw theyr entire 30 series user base under the bus with DLSS 2 (NOT compatible with 30 series, and you can bet your ass that DLSS 3 is not gonna be compatible with 40 series, i ASSURE it IS compatible they just need some artificial way to force people to buy newer cards every 2 years, FSR may look like shit but it works an any card on any game even on Nvidia cards, and if you dont push it too hard it actually looks good 720-1080 upscale, or 1080 to 1440, dont go crazy trying to upscale 480-4k
" future technology". Where is it? I have 3060ti and there's no dlss3 support. Don't know what future you're talking about. I'm thinking to sell this crap and buy 6700xt 😢
This is the most copium Nvidia fanboy comment i've seen. Their "technology" is made just to give the false sense that the product is better than it actually is by giving you fake frames to boost up that sweet, sweet framerate number, while crippling the amount of VRAM and its memory bit bus. The application argument is also complete bogus, you have clearly not used the AMD Adrenalin control panel before, there's way more features there for things like overclocking, while Nvidia is still on their oudated 2000's looking control panel. Also, i really don't understand why you are mentioning DLSS 3, if the talk is about 3060, which only supports DLSS 2 and has maybe 5% less rasterized performance than a 4060, while costing at least a $100-$150 less than a 4060.
yeah u left the fact that those prices are for US markets. there are other markets with different prices. in my country the regular RX6600XT is on avg more expensive than the 3060 12 gbs. go figure. so dont listen to this guy right away check ur local prices first
I just bought a 3060 12GB for 280.00.
Very happy for you but amd is better not toxic.hope you are happy.
Solid card and a solid buy...and unlike the AMD card you got RTX...the 3060 cost more for a reason...this video doesn't entirely make a fair comparison of the two...at 280 you did very well.
Used 2080ti is on zame price but eats 3060
Well i bought rtx 3060 last year for 450 eur. Its much cheaper today yes, but before that i've used gtx 1050 ti and after upgrading to rtx 3060 my pc gaming experience got tremendously better. I wish i could save a few bucks by not overpaying for Nvidia card and buying AMD's variant but at the time gpu shortage was active and 3060 was just the only option. Still i'm happy with my card anyways.
I paid around same time same money for 6650xt RD. We both got rekt xD kind of
The thing is outside of US Amd cards are way expensive
As other people said, the 6700 10gb is $280 right now, much cheaper than the 3060. For $10 more or so, the 6700 XT 12gb is also a MUCH better performer
Yep, that's also a great option!
3060 is the same price as 6700
@@GewelReal it is now, Nvidia recently reduced the prices of there 30 series
what about the 6750xt? 12gb at 192bit
@@mackinmall paying much more for just 2% more performance
compare it with the rx 6700xt since they are at the same price and it has 12gb vram
Comparing fsr to dlss is like comparing paint to photoshop
i bough the RTX 3060 with pc build and i dont regret it! Ofcourse if i would build my pc , i just gone with best possible stuff, but nowadays there shortages and you the best out of it!
My only real issue with switching from Nvidia to AMD for GPU is the lack of encoding for streaming with OBS.
Nvidia got some software support that I need for productivity, some of them are NVENC and Nvidia Broadcast, also stuff I need for 3D modelling/rendering that AMD don't support and instead using your CPU for work on them. Again, people should choose GPU depends on their own use-case, I don't only use it for gaming, if I do, I already picked AMD Radeon
YEAH, NOPE FAKE NEWS. AMD has OBS encoding. They even upgraded the support in RDNA2. The quality might not be as good because it's not some AI thing, but you do get full support and it works. Only no brain people say it isn't there. It's there and saying it isn't is like saying water isn't wet, and the rest of us look at you and ask wtf are you smoking.
@@JohnDoe-ip3oq i can use obs on my igpu 5700g! still, just panic bought a 3060 12gb figuring it would be a little more future proof- i was eyeing the 6600 being £100 less but figured you can't just add more v-ram later and wanted it to last 10 years like my 660 ti! stupid thing is, i mostly web browse and file hoard so drive space is my priority- i get cheap large storage mech drives to hold movies and emulate older games. arrgh! denating cancilling befor it gets sent out on midnight...
How is the vr performance
1 minute 20 seconds into video and I finally get to learn what THIS CARD is.
Hopefully you were in suspense on the edge of your seat shaking the entire time. That was the goal.
@@ZachsTechTurf it was frustrating maaan please don't do this again bro
comparing a 8gig 1080p card with a 12gig 1080p that also runs great 1440p card?
Also the Arc A750 is 229$ and the Arc A770 with 16gb vram is 339$.
Yep, love the A750 as an option as well!
Sir I'm Planning to build a budget line-up pc with a i5 12400f & Rx 6650XT So will I be able to just record my gameplays and doing a little bit editing & upload to my gaming TH-cam channel 😊 please reply Sir
I believe you miss a few points. The rtx 3060's popularity is likely due to the fact it might be cheaper than the rx6650xt in several markets. For instance in some asian markets the 3060 is cheaper than the rx6600xt. The 3060ti might be cheaper than the 6700xt, etc.
Also, OEM's might pair nvidia cards into their prebuilts more than AMD so thats another margin where nvidia would win.
Its not as easy as ''AMD is cheaper" because AMD tends to generally be cheaper in only a few markets. NOT in every market. And the top 2 cards on steam, the 1060 and 1650, had plenty of sales on laptops too, a market AMD completely sucks and is absent in meaning their share is even lower by that.
To sum up, AMD is only competitive in DIY markets. They fail in the professional market (nvidia has better productivity), fail in the laptop market and fail in the pre built market on GPU's. Why do you think nvidia outsells AMD by such a large margin?
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Im using a 980ti, but starting to get problems with games crashing back to windows. im hoping a new GPU will solve the issue. The newer RX 7600 seems to have this slightly beat for £18 more here in uk.
Ha! You must be talking about Starfield. My 980ti CTDs anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour and a half, but it always, sooner or later, CTDs. Well, it might not be the 980. Can't tell.😑
@@SmokingStone48 yes in starfield. Unfortunately tho it also does the same in. COD. Forza & Cyberpunk.
So is it better for streaming?
I think Intel Arc a750 costs 200 and better than both of them and now with latest driver update, they made it much better. Intel keeps improving its performance
If you will see the power consumption you will change your opinion.
What is the difference between the 210 and the 308? And also the difference between the 308 QICK and 308 MERC?
In india currently rtx3060ti is 424$ approx and 6700 xt is 404$ approx. Both are asus dual models. So amd is the clear winner imo.
I recently bought a used 3060ti for 175$ approx and now i know why i got that deal. 8 gb will not gonna cut it in upcoming titles.
Abe accha hai 3060 le liye pagal AMD sirf gaming acchi karva sakta hai baki sabhi cheezo mein fail hai AMD
Basically it's the same performance but in cheaper price and that's what I want
rtx 3060 12gb has huge price cut now. also rx 6700 10gb is around similar price. would like a compairsion video
can you use it with intel processors?
Yes it w9rks perfectly
i can confirm the 6650xt is very good, although i have a weird driver thing that makes dx11 games pretty stuttery
Interesting, I haven't seen something that concerete before.
Faster and cheaper. Simple as that! Even nearly a year after this vid posted. I just picked up the exact card you are highlighting for around 250usd. Blows away my old GTX 1060 3gb. In a B550 mobo with Ryzen 5 3600x my performance is consistent with your results.
well no shit, you we're using a 1060, like bruh.
@@RiveryJerald I couldn't upgrade when I built the system 3 years ago. GFX card prices were...ridiculously high!
For used bargains, the 5700xt regularly goes for under 200$ shipped from China. It doesn't perform that much worse compared to the 6600xt. For an even more budget option, there's the 5700 non xt which can be flashed to the xt bios to squeeze out a big more performance.
Might aswell buy a new RX 6600 at those prices.
Yep I love the 5700XT as well!
But which would I want to buy for a workstation PC that only occasionally gets used for minimal gaming? Going to build a new workstation PC in the next couple months.
Nvidia, especially if you plan on working with AI at all. AMD is only "better" for gaming, if you get a good price.
I have the 6650XT and I’m running it on heavy settings with OC Ram at 3600hz and I’m getting 165fps (consistently) on MW2 on Ultra settings 1080p. It’s been so nice and I was able to get a better cpu & rgb fans for the price difference I saved. I was close to getting the 3060 but I’m so glad I didn’t.
tell me if you have any drivers problem with rx 6650 xt please 🙏 i want to buy it and I'm confused about it
@@Michiko.x only in the beginning but that’s because I used the wrong software. The latest Adrenalin software works flawlessly
@@Michiko.x have had an xfx 6600xt and 6800xt since launch and have had 1 driver issue with 1 game if that tells u anything. biggest issue i see is people not knowing how to properly install drivers or are upgrading from and nvidia card and dont use ddu to clean the old drivers off the pc first. also people going on youtube and copy pasting oc profiles and thinking its a one fits all type of deal and start getting issues and blame a driver lol.
what fans are those mounted in the case at 4:49 ?
Also, The ARC A750 & A770 is a good buy too Zach!
Yep, love the A750 as an option as well!
I have a Zotac RTX 3060 and I have never regretted buying it, I can game, edit videos in 4k, stream smoothly in it with generally no issues at all, so no, buying a card that has important purpose for your needs is never a no-brainer move in my opinion.
Nvidia cards = If you generally make contents
AMD cards = If you want pure gaming performance
so the fact the 3060 has more vram doesnt matter?
I got a Gigabyte RTX4080 OC 16GB recently which I love for gaming, but coming from a RX6600 I sure do miss the 'Adrenalin' Software that comes with the RX GPUs.
It was so much easier to setup for streaming games with a cam and Mic etc etc, Perfect, Unlike the Nvidia mess of separate programs running , and the camera position you can only have 1 of four corners to a set size of theirs, it sux.
Cheers.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
be warned. i upgraded from a 1660 spuer to a 6600xt and yes i get more fps but all my game now run like shit with stutter spikes game crashes . custom resolutions not working . recording and streaming looking like crap just out right distroyed my gaming enjoyment . do your self a favour . dont buy amd gpus . i never will again regardless of cost
Install ddu program to remove all the Old drivers. Then reboot your PC and install the AMD drivers...
This should fix the problem
Agreed, though unfortunately for this price point you're required to purchase the 3x fan. The vast majority of 2x fan 6650 are $350++, and now the 3060 is $250. Not only that, but I think the majority of 3060 purchasers are similar to myself, and needing something with the smallest form factor possible, and the 3060 is available in the single fan variant. Trust me, I really, really want to support AMD over NVIDIA like the entirety of humanity, but I need a mini GPU, and as of now, the 3060 is the best bang for your buck with the mini gpus. Please tell me you know something that I don't tho? Is there a different single md1 md2/ single fan option in this price point, that has similar performance?
I bought a 6650 XT for $219 brand new at microcenter
I guess you won't find any radeon GPU with single fan config (as of now), but that's very specific... 2 fan config is where mini build still use.
Have you seen the Asrock Challenger for RX 6650 xt or Sapphire 7600? both of them have a relatively small form factor.
Love the take at the end of the video, so true.
I had used a RX 6700 XT for over a year. Experienced continuous black screens and constantly rolling back and updating drivers to keep stable. Having now a RTX 3060 TI has been a breath of fresh air. No more random crashes and much more smoother performance.
Same for me that’s the big problem with amd, yea it’s good for price to performance but the big problem is drivers the random crashes, black screens and just shitty driver updates would make me want to pull my hair out, but now that I got a RTX 4080 it’s just so much better with just stability and reliability.
I haven't had any really bad issue from dailing AMD cards for almost 10 years... at most some game-specific issues.
Same, didn't had a single problem, probably those people are not uninstalling and reinstalling drivers properly, using DDU (display driver uninstaller) @@yomurita
don't forget a used RX 5700 XT which is usually $150 on ebay is able to keep up with the 3060 which is incredible
I personally main (but not solely) Nvidia gpus over the past ~20+ years and have experienced more driver issues or game bugs on them than the couple instances of AMD Radeon software for gaming. I’m yet to have any driver issue on AMD (other than hair works - Nvidia tech and one game glitch which was fixed eventually). It’s much of a muchness imo. Both brands have given me great gaming memories and experiences and regardless of the choice of GPU people have: Intel, AMD or Nvidia…. We’re all gamers so be happy for each other, help each other and not criticise other for their choice of hardware!!!
Thanks for sharing!
Machine learning 🐥
I need the 12gb and CUDA support 🤭
I owned 1 Radeon card, and it did not run reliably. Especially when the latest driver had bugs that caused crashing.
here by us we dont get the 6650, well not that i have seen, but we do get the rx 6700 speedster. Would you still prefer the 6700speedster over the 3060 12gb? and does brand name make a differrence?
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3060 is the only way to go if you have a creators centric workload, unless you wanna spend up to a RTX 3080/3080 Ti level territory to get that 10GB/12GB VRAM.
Since I'm more familiar Nvidia I plan on staying with their products, but I can see if someone wants to save a bit of change they have other options for similar to a bit better performance. I recently found a 3060 12 GB for $300, not so much as to call it cheap but considering it was new and 30% off I just had to bite the bullet and snag one. Mainly considering ive been using a 1060 3GB for a LONG time now, like 6-8 years or so I just had to finally upgrade cause all the games I like or want to play require a minimum of a 4+ GB graphics card. I have yet to get it yet as it should arrive in the next 4 days or so, but I'm absolutely stoked to get it and cant wait to not be forced to play games with all settings on off or low and look like pixels or garbage with very spotty or all around low FPS.
How did the upgrade go? I also use a 1060 and understand that an update might be a good idea :D
Worth the penny?
@@christine-kht I mean depending on financial situations (though mine isnt the best) I would say it was pretty worth it, I can play pretty much every game I have on max quality and still be above 60 FPS. Even games like cyberpunk I can max the quality on, although I do still need to use DLSS for it to be above 60 FPS but DLSS is awesome anyways so its not a downside imo. I would highly recommend someone who is looking into upgrading their graphics card to get a 3060 cause it definitely worth the $300 I paid for it. I looked recently and some like the MSI 3060 12gb one went down to ~$275. If someone has the spare money to get one I would highly recommend.
I just got a 3060 not a ti but a normal 3060 the 3060 is alot better it should cost MORE it is better that the price the price is not as high as its performance @christinekuhrt1179
so if we want to learn editing(4k level iff possible) and animation or in 3d modeling ( like game development ) and i am under the budget of 1000 usd ( i don't mind pc without rgb or fanciness ) what component should i pick ??? please help me anyone ......btw love ur video a lot
and one more question dlss is much better then another on noo so we are gonna use dlss so why not 3060 or 3060ti ????
If you are doing 3D modeling then Nvidia's probably your best bet (Arc is better then AMD in Blender but still). If you want to go used I would go with a 2080ti for between $300 and $400. For new, your best bet if you need 12gb of vram is the 3060,
@@IdeasAreBulletproof thank u very much gega chat bro 😃
@@IdeasAreBulletproofif you're going used, don't get a 2080ti. grab 2 2070 supers, since most productivity software still support nvlink, and the 16 gigs of vram you get when running 2 2070 supers is SUPER nice (and all in all you have way more cuda cores to work with than a 2080ti). each 2070 super could be got for around 170$, and I've personally never seen a 2080ti lower than 400 USD
the Amd is pretty useless for video encoding or in stable diffusion. not everyone just use gpu for gaming only
Hi people, I just bought my Sapphire RX 6650 XT upgrading from RX 580 and after installation when I turn on my pc the monitor for about 5 seconds is saying Input Not Supported.
Why?
My build is B450 Aorus pro-R5 3600 stock-24 gb 3200mhz Win11 and last Radeon driver.
Did some experience the same issue?
I use the arc a750 and I'm happy with this gpu .😊
and the drivers getting better and better
@Mr. ElectronX Yes they are 😁😁👍👍
I daily drove it for a few months and enjoyed it as well! It's only getting better over time too
@Zach's Tech Turf in the beginning it was little buggy but now it's fine ...😊
ya but that Radeon GPU can't do shit about 'work'' related stuff: 3D rendering, Photo/Video editing etc. While Nvidea GPU can do everything. for price to performance Play & Work just buy RTX-2070 super
Idk man I have a 3060 and a 6800xt. While the 6800xt is a beast and delivers high fps its problematic and often stuttering after driver updates. But the 3060 always runs nice and smooth and is never a problem
i hope you dont have some shit cpu
Interesting, when is it stuttering? Any pattern?
@@ZachsTechTurf it started after the most recent AMD driver update. Might sound kinda odd but if I run state of decay 2 it starts then any game I run after that the stuttering continues. I have removed SOD2 and seams ok but I haven't play much yet. Any ideas?
Did 3 things and been running smoothly sofar.
1. Reseated all gpu connections
2.uninstalled/reinstalled drivers
3 Uninstalled/reinstalled SOD2
Fingers crossed 🤞 😂
How would this comparison hold up now? Currently am looking at upgrading parts of my am4 rig as I don't have the budget to go am5 just yet.
Cpu: ryzen 7 2700
Gpu: 2070 super
Motherboard: gigabyte b450 gaming x
Ram: 16gb
Possibly a bigger case as well
Only problem here is that 3060 comes with 12 gb ram also, whereas the 6650xt only comes with 8. But that difference counts if you plan to game on 1440p, which the 3060 is perfectly capable on doing in the 12gb variant.
I think the 3060 is literally the only Nvidia card that matters at this point 🤣🤣 I could get the 3060 for 305€ and the RX 6650XT for 245€ with Starfield tho so even then I'd go for the RX 6650XT
Rx 6700xt has 12 gb of vram and much much better performance with basically the same price as the 3060 of not cheaper for some variants with the same vram
@@crossdaboss8914 The 6700 XT is like 345€ for the Sapphire version. I don't know about how good that thing is honestly, but it looks like ass. Meanwhile the MSI RTX 3060 is 305€ which definitely makes it a worthy deal for some people.
Is the Rx 6650 XT good for Video Editing? I guess the Rtx 3060 is for video editing better but I still wanna know how strong is the difference?
Oh Linus 0:16 😬
Huh what a time to be a gamer again. Gpus are back to normal prices and in stock
As a game developer and not a gamer, the RTX line is all I'll ever use anymore. You can't get better results with renders and procedural generation. Not to mention when testing the reliability is unbeatable. As for playing games, hard core that is and not just for research play for ideas. I can't really say what gpu would be better. I just don't game like that anymore. But for developing my go to will always be NVIDIA.
However when I get back into gaming one day after retirement or if the earge to actually game comes back, I'll build a few different pc's and edit this comment to say what one I feel is superior.
Tbh if you're into content creation field...then nvidia is the only option
i love amd but sadly i had to buy rtx 3060 for that cuda cores (its 30% )
The NVidia has ray tracing... it also has 12gb of Vram.... Almost double that of the cheaper one. A quick TH-cam comparison video shows that the NVidia performs great. Almost doubling fps in most games compared to a 1660 gtx, which also has no ray tracing, similar to the cheaper one on this video. (Also your sponsor looks super sketchy and i hope no one here actually gives them any personal information)
@@ScrakSFMs I play a wide variety of games. The 1660 or any card with 6 to 8 gb of vram because as soon as expolsions start happening on screen or chaos or multiple things in gerner, where the 3060 has 12 gb of vram, so most of the time it doesnt even struggle. To buy a 1660 gtx oc , with multi monitor support, and vr, youd expect it to hand 1440 p, which it does well. Any games that have alot going on in a scence such as expolions tress blowing, all impact the vram. If you have 6, its gonna use it all, sometimes needing more, which is where the 8gb card comes in, but it pointless as you could just get the 12gb and not have to worry. Not to mention no need to change power supplies.
I just returned a 7800 xt oc because of 2 to 3 second black screens. What was the cause of that?
Ive been saying this since day 1
Got this exact card from my brother, but the dang thing wont stay under 90C without seriously undervolting it. Whats up with that?
Bro, that's a big issue. I don't know if you fixed it already, but you definitely need to see what's up. Maybe your cooling isn't right, or maybe the GPU is defective or broken in some way. Check if the fans work properly, and maybe take it apart and see if it has proper thermal paste applied. There are a lot of other factors that can cause this issue. Let me know if you need more help.
@@Popseoh the GPU temp stays well under 90C, but the hotspot hits upwards of 95.
Comparing Nvidia to AMD is like comparing Huawei to Apple. You pay for quality. Nvidia drivers are very polished, and the problems are quite rare. Whereas with AMD I hear complaints about drivers all the time.. + 3060 productivity wise is 6800-6800XT level. Also 6600xt only has 8 gigs of VRAM so that GPU is already dead since 2022-2023.
As said in the video the problems with AMD drivers are more perception than reality. It's unlikely you hear complaints about AMD drivers all the time, unless you happen to be hanging around with a crowd that is just almost all AMD users. All the actual data says Nvidia has about the same level of driver problems.
What can't you do with 8Gb of memory? What games are no longer playable on high settings at 1080p? That's the target resolution of these cards.
@@loganmedia1142 What can't you do with 8Gb of memory? Every game ported from PS5 basically and almost every game that came in years 2022-2023 and every single game that will come since then. Yes you can play them if you put textures to medium lol.
So would a nvidia or amd card be better for streaming? Im leaning towards getting a 6800 but im not sure just yet.
Unless you are a professional streamer AMD is going to be better. But if you preice range is $400-$600 get the 4070. It has 12gb of vram and has AV1 encoding. But if you are around the 400-500 range then stay with the 6800, it wont be noticeable unless you are spending thousands of dollars on a camera/sound board/mixer ect. For an average gamer AMD is beyond good enough.
AMD supports streaming. It's a literal fact. Nvidia fanboys who say otherwise are lying, and there has been upgrades for the encoding quality for a while now.
@@LegionGamingTV how would an Intel arc a770 16gb do?,I actually have that right now because I got it so cheap in my area ($200)
@@Jvirtual97 Arc is good for streaming, not performance. There are driver issues and it's not power efficient for the performance. It's better now, but the chip is still fundamentally flawed and better off ignoring until arc 2 comes out. I'd go arc over a 3050, but not a 3060 12gb. 6700 is better than both, no software or driver issues.
If you already have an arc card, might as well hold until you need better. The drivers can improve further, no point wasting money on side grades.
@@Jvirtual97 I dont have any first hand experience with the A770 or A780 but from what ive been seeing they are going to be awesome for streaming and have good price to performance. IDK why everyone seem to be putting efficiency in the conversation all the time. In my opinion power draw shouldnt even be a conversation unless your getting into the 300-350w range. Even an RTX 2060 pulls close to 200w under full load.
The best thing about AMD gpu's is when you sell it to buy a NVIDIA gpu 💯
For real
how about power comsumption, dlss, rt? 4 GB RAM more?
Either get a 3060TI or go AMD and get a top tier card for relatively cheap. Even the RX 5700XT is still a great buy for entry level builders and it's relatively very cheap nowadays.
The 3060ti and 6700xt are the same price in my region. Which should I buy?
6700xt if you want the extra vram. If you need Nvidia or want to go Nvidia, 3060ti ain't bad.
I just want the best performance but thank you for your response
No 1440p resolution and no watts (power) during games?
Plz answer this question : should i buy the 3060 over the 6550xt just bcuz it has better ram and correct me if im wrong but isnt dlss better thn fsr ?
In finland rtx 3060 12gb is about 280 euros
If i were to buy the rx 6650 would it be really worth it while it only has an 8 gb for the graphics card?
For video editing specially which one can i buy?? Plsss tell me❤
anyday nvidia
I'm not mixing an Intel CPU with an AMD GPU that's illegal
Then you can't use Nvidia either 😂
@Driver_1227 nah because Nvidia doesn't produce CPUs so it's different
I just bought one ASUS 3060 12GB VRAM for 339€ and let me tell you, the card is a little diamond. 12GB VRAM also let me disable paging file. I'd also wait for the 7600 but has only 8GB VRAM and it's more expensive. Furthermore, I only go for Nvidia. The cheapest 6700XT is 420€ but consumes a lot more energy. Anyway, depending on the price, you can't go wrong on either one.
between rtx 2070super and rx6650 xt , which will be better choice?
yeah but thats a 12 gb vs 8 gb, so..?? like if I'm doing something other then gaming will a 6650 still be able to handle the same amount of stress as the 3060 12gb?
Hey for me when converting into my curreny
There is only 25 dollars difference between the two, so which should I choose
soooo what is better for VR? is there a difference between Vr and non Vr?
So am not really gonna focus on just gaming
I want to play good games at the same time, I do want to pursue a career in programming/coding and ai
So which one is better amd or nvidia
In that case, Nvidia.
I’m thinking a rx 6700xt for my build. Is there anything better price to perfomance
Does not the rtx 3060 have a higher resolution than the rx 6650??? Please Help