How to: Fit a EGR Blanking Plate on a Diesel Engine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2012
- Welcome to this video, In this video I Install a EGR Blanking Plate on the Vauxhall Astra 1.9 CDTI Engine.
This will bring on the Engine Management Light if you do not have a 10mm hole. The hole allows enough gas through to keep the light off and slow down the build up. You could have the EGR remapped out of the ECU and then you could fully block the Valve.
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Bro i want to do this cause when i cleaned my egr and pipes on my astra h 1.7 cdti now it gives me air leak p2279. Can i delete the egr in opcom or is there a diy way to do this?
Hi Bluudy.
Just fitted the EGR blanking plate (fully blanked). 10min job it was.
I took it for a 30 mile test derive and no EML light on (don't know why coz I was expecting it)
I have to say that it was easier to clean the carbon build up whilst dry with a small wire brush and then I sprayed some brake and clutch cleaner and gave it a good scrub. While I was there I also cleaned the boost sensor.
A big thank you for the tutorials, as without them I wouldn't have had the courage to do the job
Thank you so much. You have no idea how much you've helped me. My EGR cooler failed on my Astra 1.9cdti and I didn't know how I was going to get it fixed due to parts being super expensive here. I decided today that I would buy a plate kit.. remove the cooler and and fit both plates.. But even that was a worry for me because I know other parts have to be removed to do that.. This is the same result but much cheaper and easier. I'd also like to say thanks for mentioning the plates with holes in them because I was wondering about and I was going to fit the plate without holes but now that you've explained all that I'll go with the plate that has holes In it. Finally my brain can rest after weeks of stress. You're a legend!
I had a faulty EGR valve on my 2001 Astra (Z16XE petrol engine). I replaced it with a brand new Delphi one sourced for a reasonable price and it has been fine ever since.
I have a 'master' blanking plate as used by the AA (Automobile Association...not the ones for alcohol dependents! ) It fits virtually every vehicle. Whenever I blank off EGR's I just draw round the 'master' template onto a tin can lid ( or similar), snip out the shape, drill out the mounting holes and job done. Free, fast and foolproof!
gonna try this this weekend ordered some plates lets see
Sorry for the delay on getting back to you. the plate is a preventative measure to help slow down/stop the effects of carbon build up. it cannot get you power back your missing, because perhaps some damage is done. perhaps theres some blockage on the inlet manifold or on the swirl flaps.
You have a keen eye. The Allen bolts are because the threads were damaged by the previous owner after removing and refitting the EGR valve - when i removed the valve for myself, the bolts wasn't very tight, so we experimented with a tap and die set, and managed to add a few threads. but the Allen bolts held better - but wasn't long enough for the engine cover lug.
Done this job on my jaguar x type 2.0 d excellent result, more power, very little exhaust smoke when giving it the boot and saving money on new egr units, great upgrade
Personally I prefer using the blank directly on the manifold, I've blown that pipe out completely before, bluddy might be worth doing a swirlflaps tutorial also as a part 2🤙
Packs of 2 is for one each end of the pipe. But theroretically you only need to block one side. You could clwar the light but most likely will come back on again.
I am going to have a go at cleaning my egr valve on Saturday (first timer) but was wondering why the blanking plate is added and what does it do exactly....does it stop the egr valve clogging up again? are there any issues with doing it? Astra H 1.9 cdti 120 8v auto. cheers.
Okay thanks for the reply, cant be doing with error codes popping up it would drive me nuts, I will just get it cleaned out along with the intake manifold
I personally WOULD fit a plate with the hole in it, as re-map software can be expensive depending who you go to. If you can afford it blank it off, if not hole it. :) Another thing I did when i had to change my EGR was threadlock those 2 top bolts, i did them up nice and tight but they rattled loose and all you could smell in the car was nox and co2 hence the threadlock.
I cleaned my LMM sensor on P307 2.0 hdi with alcohol and it finally broke. The result was that the Egr itself blocked and is still in the closed position. The result is better engine response, more power. Should I buy a new operational sensor LMM? I also noticed that the engine needs a lot more time to warm up to operating temperature.
perhaps not the correct lambda sensor? or they forgot to connect a plug?
Hi,I have Laguna 1.9DCi 74kw from 2003...Where I should put the blanking metal plate? Instead of upper part of EGR(the electronic-sensor) and leave the rest of mechanic part of EGR-valve in closed position?
Will this work the same on my saab 93 57 reg ttid ??and if so what plate should i use please ??
In my case I blanked the egr like in this video but after 20000 miles I had a exhaust leak where the egr pipes comes off the exhaust manifold, Best way to block is on the exhaust manifold itself
I think so too, it seems to me that blocking it on the way back into the engine is just going to clog the EGR with the unrecirculated smog. Gotta send it all through the DPF and out or block that too and just send it out like originally designed.
Thanks for the tutorial.
will it make a difference if you put the plate on the engine side or both sides.
Check the operation, get someone to rev it, and watch if the rods are moving?
if you get stuck or want more help, check out our site, and we shall see if we can talk you through.
Hi I have a Kia Sorento and it rough idles on cold start with a white/blue smoke but runs very smooth after about 10 minutes with no smoke whatsoever, everything I read pointed to the egr valve so I blanked it off to see if that was the problem as these erg valves seem to be a nightmare to remove but there has been no change in it's behavior, is there anything else you could recommend checking? It's a 2004 2.5 crdi 16v engine, any help would be much appreciated.
I'll fit a plate if it's arrive tonight and hopefully be able to start and rev it enough to see the rods moving. Will they move even at low revs? I couldn't get it above 2000 before. Much appreciate your help/videos - I'll check out the website too. Keep up the good work!
I had a plate fitted here and the curved EGR pipe has split due to back pressure, best to remove EGR cooler and blank at exhaust manifold and back of inlet using both plates
i have a 89 d21 and my dose not require emission any more. therefore I want to take some stuff off. is it just the oem and the egr
Hey there, the best place is eactly there, the only other place you could put the plate would be directly off the exhaust manifold, but im guessing it would become way to hot, and may do some damage, so its perfectly fine just there :)
Bluudy
Hi, I was attempting to remove my EGR in order to clean it as im getting a loss of power issue. when 2 of the bolts snapped and left some of the thread in the hole.
i see that you have the custom allen key bolts. did you have to drill out old bolts since it was damaged when you got the car? or would you just recommend blanking off the valve and forget about it? Thanks.
I have an astra h 55 plate . I recently had the car lamba sensors changed and since then the engine managment light has come on . Any reason why this would be on ?
brilliant cheers mate!
I did it on my Mondeo and I naw have a Focus, both cars were easy to blank and took less than 2 minutes.
Hi, im having EGR issues with my Astra 1.9 CDTI Sri 150 2007
I know it needs cleaning and im thinking of fitting the blanking plate, but is there anything else you would need to do after fitting this plate like anything to do with the ECU? I've had the engine management light come up twice, came up once then disappeared and now it's back and im sure it's because of the EGR.
Its 2015 now can u post ur results of using this system?
Hi! I have a Vectra with a Z19DTH engine. Is it the same type of engine that you're fitting your plate to? Would you recommend removing the EGR valve and pipes and checking/cleaning them of carbon build up before fitting the plate?
Thanks for the Tutorial!
BV
Whats with the custom Allen key bolts on the EGR value with like 3 washers under each one & the lug for the engine cover is missing.
Do these blanking plates increase smoke in a diesel. And does removing the vacuum pipe and blocking this up do the same job as a blanking plate
I have another plate, you blanked it off from underneath, mine is from the other side, do you know the difference or the idea why some tuners blank it off from the bottom and the others from the other side,
Can this cause engine warnings to come on
This is definitely a good mod espically if you have a diesel car with dpf,
how tight does the blanking plate have to bet a lot ? or just normal
Any news on this? I'm having the same trouble on the same car. It's gone from running bad with EML on to cutting out completely. Green Flag's diagnoistics kit suggested EGR valve so I've striped and cleaned it as well a bit round the inlet manifold, but to no avail. When taking it off for the 2nd time again I notice a lot of black wet slugde had appeared in the inlet manifold. Do you think it could the swirl rods? God I hope not. Hoping to fit a plate this wednesday.
good video
Hello right so can someone help me I blanked my zafira 1.9 cdti at the top and at the manifold , it blew the gasket off the egr manifold and engine is full of Soot , ? And ticking like I've got a lollipop stick in a bike wheel any help please?
hi ihave new defender puma 2.2 what if i unclog the wire will its stop he exhaust ?
Thats great news, some time there are the excpetions to the rules, But you still might get a light. Hope you dont :) Thanks Matey!
Bluudy
Hi I have audi a4 b8 2.0 onces I stick the blanking plate will it effect the dpf
Anyone any ideas never done this before
what shape is the blanking plate for a 2003, 2.0 dti Vectra please.
I have a 1.9 tdi which practically died on the motorway from a stuck egr valve. Is it just 1 blanking plate you need? I've seen packs of 2 on eBay. Also, couldn't you just plug in vagcom to turn off the error flashing up? Car is already remapped so dont want to pay for it again
Hi there, that was a good and informative video thanks, I have just started to get a loss of upper power, and so have just had the EGR valve of and cleaned it up, but it is still giving me this lack of power.
Now will this plate cure that ? and also, surely that if you are blocking of that hole, surely the pipe leading upto there will build up with soot and then you will have 1 long pipe full of it ?
Just my thoughts before i go out and buy one.
cheers
MF
Do you need software delete?
Thank you
What happens if unplug the ERG cable out?
Abdo Sukari it will show a fault. No use. Must get it reconfigured.
why not blank off on the exhaust pipe and remove the entire EGR cooler pipe ?
Is it ok to delete the EGR and leave the DPF on the car?
Ok thanks mate
hey, yeah its a very similar engine set up. for thew extra few mins to clean it, i would before you blank it.
I thought that this was a guaranteed MOT failure in the UK? Is it or it not? There is of course the option of removing it before MOT having ensured it still works unblanked. At the moment my poor Saab 9-5 is kicking a trailof black smoke out of the exhaust which blackens the grass in the field.
Can you use the existing bolts with the blanking plate or do you have to use extended bolts? Thanks
Thanks for your reply Ahsan. I fitted the blanking plate a few months ago now but thanks anyway bud 😃
hi there, in the vid you said that the EML light may come on if it should come on will it go into limp mode with no power or will it let the car drive with normal power many thanks
normally normal power. but can go limp if it triggers another issue.
Do you remove the gasket and replace it with the blanking plate?
Or leave both in place?
IrishGuitarist1 I used both to make sure it didn't blow around the plate
Hi I'm struggling trying to fit one of these to my astra. Do I leave the gasket on aswell or do I just put the plate on? Waiting for a new plate in the post atm as I dropped it in the engine somewhere and can't find it lol 😲 I'm having trouble lining the bolts up and the exhaust doesn't move as much as the one in your vid.
Thankyou
loosen up the exhaust clamps
Astra g van 1.7 diesel
Can anyone tell me why eml stays on, when light goes off i loose power, sometimes jerking back n fourth too
Could be anything. Need to get your car plugged in to read the codes. Egr may just need a clean.
Wish the 1.3 was this easy... Egr is right at the back, almost impossible to reach and can't see what you are doing, not without taking the inlet manifold off anyway.
It is easier to make changes in the ECU. I've just done that on my car. I had to change values, so the EGR does not open anymore. Than there was a little bit of extra work, so the error light does not go on because of the EGR fault.
Wit higher boost egr will open it self.
What car is this on??
hi mate, I want to semi blank my egr just not sure if I have to fit them both: square and oval or just oval plate?
thanks for help
your welcome, no worries.
EGR is not working on my TDCI 1.4 engine, does blanking it will help ? its not letting revv my engine over 2k rpm..... tried installing a working one and was fine but its too costly to replace
Nope. Blanking a broken or not working egr will do nothing. As the car knows its not working and will put your car in limp mode. Clean it see if that helps. If so. Then blank.
@@bluudysgarage thanks for the information, can i apply any workaround to drive for 100-200miles ..... some good workshops are 200miles from my place and i will have to tow it
Just fitted egr blanking plate toy astra 1.9 diesel Sri and the car wouldn't start. Took the plate out and the car started after turning over for a few seconds. I cleaned egr with carb cleaner, it was ditched. Any ideas why car won't start with plate fitted? Cheers
kristian dakin you have a DTH engine code which sound only be blanked from the side not the bottom
Isn't having an egr blanking plate with a hole, the same as having a partially blocked egr valve? The hole is not fully open and it's not fully closed either..... not ideal? Won't the small hole eventually block up anyway? Don't egr systems usually block up over time?
Having the hole in the plate is pointless. No point putting the plate on . That plate is to stop exhaust fumes going back into the engine. I think you are on about the egr flap .. you can take the vacuum pipe off the egr valve to stop it moving . So its always open . Ive always done a proper job and took that pipe off at the exhaust manifold and blanked it off with a gasket . Then do the same on the egr valve . If you know what i mean
zooming in too much you cant get an idea whats going on
What if I must remove that plate later for car inspection once in year . I am sure it will not pass on inspection . My question is , when I block EGR and descide I must remove the plate after a year for my inspection . Am I going to have any problem ? Is ERG going to be harmed and cloged when plate is on ? What does this plate actualy blocks ? Air that comes IN EGR or air that comes out of it ? Thank you . I hope you can answer . It would be very helpful .
Milenko Popovic you will be able to remove the plate with no issues.
Bluudys Garage And no consequences to EGR ? I mean its just for inspection purpouses . When I am pass I am puting plate back on ofcourse . Thanks
Milenko Popovic that's allndoen to you driving style. It may need a clean out from any build up
Thy big man tjy i have clean my problem
Danke aus Deutschland
Damn music!
Not that bad heard worse could do with the volume reduced a bit though
Hmm, You deffinatly put the plate same as the video?
Please somebody to confirm is the plate and only plate enough for blanking egr z17dtr.
Alexandar Mitev yes
@@bluudysgarage n
id laugh, but its not the first time ive heard that lol
1 suggestion, add a short explanation of why you should do this mod and what maybe can go wrong doing this and even the tools you need and you're looking at a fantastic series, good video though :)
Great advice, Check out our latest EGR valve Clean (1.7), all tools needed are listed, advice given etc...
Thank you.
cool :)
Absolute Modicts if the egr is clogged surely that does the same thing
Yah, the only problem could think of when getting rid/or blocking of the EGR valve would be that you would have to remap he injectors. How wonder how much it would cost to have it done? For the most part, it would just be hooking up a computer, and making some easy changes.
Why would you need to remap the injectors you are simply reducing recirculated exhaust gases.
Dave Davus Well that recirculated exaust gasses is more air going into the engine. Some of it has to be pressurized...?
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I simply thought that was the problem with some vehicles with a "plugged E.G.R." valve, and poor performance? On some vehicles you could just put plates over the EGR valve ports, and have no problems, but others end up with motors that are running a rich fuel/air mixture. I guess it depends on the size of the EGR valve, and how much air/exhaust gasses it is pushing through the intake (that air isn't read by the "Mass Airflow Sensor"... or the thingy that measure the amount of air going into the intake/engine. Sends it to a computer, and the computer decides how much gas is being pumped into the engine through the injectors!)!!
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To be honest, they should completly do away with electronic fuel injected systems, and go back to a simple carb. Nothing will ever be as exact as a mechanical fuel delivery system...
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They also need to start incorporating reed valve in the intake, so the gas becomes more atomized. As well as a higher intake ports, or longer intake ports in order so the gas becomes more atomized (incorporate that with a carb setup)!
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I was just looking for a... FOUND IT! This vid shows a old engine used in faming back in the day. It's got a "vaporizer carborator"! watch?v=FDHQa0zv4D4 Probably the reason 20 oil cars jumped the track and blew up (just yesterday they said it was only 6... everything changes, day to day... even the bible... WTF!?)....
Hiya Brain, you are right in a way but the gas is still metered with the MAP ( manifold absolute pressure ) sensor on this particular engine It has both a MAF ( Mass airflow sensor ) and a MAP so it will be able to adjust the ratio of fuel to air acording to these readings. obviously other engines will vary.
Never heard of reed valves being used in a 4 stroke engine, or a vaporizer carburetor I shall check it out.
Dave Davus Sounds like a pain in the ass with a load of complications. If the car somehow isn't right you take it to a mechanic... a mechanic van already tell what is wrong with the engine by check coolant temp and spark plugs. Don't need no sensors to tell what was wrong with a engine back in the day, and piston engines haven't even changed at all... It's all about control... a big conspiracy by the government to control all and everything as more technology is being released, as well as more truth. All the BS with sensors and what-not is just complications that end up with often "A BAD SENSOR"! Simple mechanical gauges are still used in racing, for giving reliable feedback from your engine, and what/where the problem is, rather than a "check engine light"...
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Thank for pointing out another dumb sensor that is unnecessary on an engine, connected to a unnecessary valve that pumps spent exaust/carbons back through a brand new engine.
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Yah, I'd say the Gov has it's medaling minds in everything, but really is looking our for our best interest... MY ASS!~
The EGR is going to put in hot exhaust fumes into your cylinders with low oxygen content that probably won't burn up anyways, instead, the fumes collect residual oil and more soot and then clump in your exhaust manifold, the recirculation method is faulty and ruins engine longevity.
jezzas love child
Why don't manufactures do this in the factory?
thats all ?
I don't understand why they would design it like this only to block it off?
You look like a younger version of Jeremy Clarkson
jeremy clarkson, is that you?
Apparently so.
this 1.9 or 1.7?
1.9
what about dash light
What about it.
@@bluudysgarage how can u cancel light for mot
Valve, even.
get rid of the stupid music while you are talking ...
Soda can will do as an insert plate?
Yea, right, as if aluminum can could hold the 700-degree exhaust fumes, you need steel plate, aluminum can will melt and end up recirculated through your engine.
Hi Mate. I fitted one of these today, and now my car won't start, just seems to turn over and over but will not fire. It's a 2006 Vectra C 1.9 CDTI (150) Any help would be great. Thanks.
Hey. Have you removed the egr and tried to clean it at the same time? Sounds like the eg is stuck open. It need to be closed to allow the car to start!
Absolute Modicts Hi, and thanks for the reply. It was starting ok before I fitted it, so would that still apply in this case? I fitted it as the thought of clogging my engine isn't nice lol
Shouldnt normally cause this issue, possible there is a EML light on and a code stopping it from starting. i would take the plate off and try again
Absolute Modicts Well, I think battery is on way out. Had to jump start it and it took a fair amount to get it going. Guess the engine was kinda confused after the plate was put in lol Drives great now, instant improvement. Cheers mate.
Well at least ita sorted! Glad its better! Thanks for watching!
Gaskets needed or no?
Yes to gaskets otherwise it'll develop a leak.
smile more mate
Cars are depressing. Fact.
I blanked mine 8 months ago after a catastrophic manifold block up..all had to be replaced...
I left a 8mm hole as its supposed to stop the warning light coming on from completely blocking it...
Now the EGR has re blocked & I removed & cleaned it but the manifold looks really bad & im still right down on power....also light is still on..
EGR cleaning spray really helps the cleaning process I ordered a couple of cans & will be spraying that into the intake just beside the EGR every month...the only real cure is regular motorway use over 2000rpm...I live in London so my 1.9 Cdti astravan 150ps is stuffed full..
Modern diesels are too complicated to hit emission targets so that combined with the current war on diesels means it's time to sell especially if your city baced...I like the vehicle but alas it must go....Diesel has had its time it's going to die...
Diver Dan I am afraid you are right. Diesels are dying out now due to the rules and regs. Really shame your issue came back but as you said it is down to your location more than the vehicle
Sorry, EGR NOT ERG
I can never understand why people add music the their video's. I never made it to the end.
Because 9 years ago when I made this video I thought it was cool. Once the videos uploaded nothing you can do about it. Shame you didn't watch it all. But it is a really easy thing to fit.
What the hell is a EGR Blanking Plate, and what does it do ?
Why do you guys remove the egr your vehicle is going to pollute more and create more nox
how much more, how much more the a poorly running motor due to carbon build up, how much more due to the car not lasting as long?
So lets think it this way.You leave the EGR and the other thing that extremely "helps" keeping mother earth safe.And the car engine dies 'cause of the soot buildup in the engine,so you throw the car and buy a new one,then it happens again ,so you just keep buying cars and the car industry keeps producing them and while producing the factories produce more,co2,nox and who knows what not,then me Plating/blinding/ removing/deleting an EGR valve.I think plating an EGR kepps an engine more or less safe and people don't need to buy cars as often and the car industry doesn't have to produce so often and that is how we can keep helping mother earth.
Nice clear video with good descriptions. Stopped watching after 30 seconds because of bloody awful and annoying music.
This doesn’t work and due to what your video states it has cracked my egr cooler pipe due amount of boost going through it, this blanking plate on the video should be on the turbo and on the inlet manifold, you bolted it too the wrong place.
Bluddys garage need to research a bit better before putting videos up that people rely on
Daniel... this video has been online since 2012. You are the first person you have an issue. Please do more research in what you are on about before blaming others for your actions.
Makes sense, the EGR valve needs to be closed, but the hot exhaust should be blocked from going into the EGR and out of the EGR on both sides.
Not good for the environment - look after the earth! Not legal either!
+Russell Mogg It's not good for the environment that the diesel engines are restricted in several ways. It looks good on the paper. When you have to regenerate for example the dpf all the build up will be released into the air anyway.
+opelduude Why would you write something so stupid? Are you saying that using this blanking plate is good for the environment ?
Restrictions are due to pollution control - trying to keep the earth clean. It looks good on paper because - it is!
This EGR blank off prevents the complete combustion - thus, blocking the DPF even quicker.
+Russell Mogg "Egr blank off prevents the complete combustion" Do you even know what an egr-valve does? It's like breating in your own farts over and over again. If you want to keep the earth clean i sugest you start with ship traffic and third world industry countries.
+Russell Mogg I hate the environment and do everything I can to destroy it! I fully support everyone who does the same. I removed all my emission control devices from my truck and now get far better mpg and hp.
turn your computer off to help environment
If you took the stupid music off, got your hands out of the way and started by showing exactly the unit is, this might be a useful video.
Well the thousands of other viewers didn't seem to have an issue following this simple video...