Yeah like what??, i can understand that i don't have any in my Eco box, but not having any in a performance car? kinda weird, unless ford doesnt trust the people that buy them, it probably makes it harder to do donuts in them
Paddles were previously added if optioned with the Performance Package. However, the Performance Package has been dropped for the 2025MY. The Ecoboost has officially been sentenced to rental car purgatory.
Exactly, I know that technically the Mustang is more “powerful” and “quicker” but honestly not by that much if were looking at power to weight ratios. Also the 86/BRZ will be a better handler. The Ecoboost isn’t bad but yikes that price sucks.
Closer to $45k with the options this model has, not including destination. Bought a well equipeed GT in 2021 for roughly the same price. Wild how badly these things have inflated in cost.
@@JohnnyBitcoin lmao so many "regular cars" have paddle shifters, i.e., mazda 3, lots of SUVs (usually fake cuz CVT but whatever). This is just Ford cutting costs and putting paddles on a paywall to scam people for more money
@@More_Row no paddle shifters is one thing but not being able to change the gears yourself like on the shift lever ruins the driving experience, for me at least
I knocked this for not having paddle shifters or manual shifting in general, but I went and test drove one of these yesterday. Premium, 201A package, active exhaust in vapor blue and I'm 90% sure its going to be my next car.
Very cool. I was hoping you would get this in. If it had paddles, this might be one of the best bang for buck vehicles out there. Thanks for taking us on the drive!
I love the idea of the ecoboost and its reasonable affordability while still being able to have some fun, but honestly I think it'd be better just to upgrade to the GT
Assuming you took out a loan, you don't own your 2021. Itd be dumb just to trade it in on negative equity for a slightly newer car that isn't even upgrading anything. Pay off the 2021 and drive it to the wheels fall off, unless you love owing money on things you'll never own the rest of your life.
So much hate on this car! I just picked mine up (this exact model, down to the color) recently and I love it! I’m not planning on racing, but I’m more than happy it can go fast if I want. I could’ve gotten the GT, but that cars too expensive to just have the base model and it eat more gas. The price of the base GT is the same as the ecoboost premium, in yellow, with legit anything and everything you want to add extra…well worth it over the GT To each their own of course
My 2014 Ford Escape at least had a button on the shifter to change gears. It wasn't good, but you could at least tell the transmission what to do. No shifting options in a Mustang is just crazy.
It looks sweet on the interior, but at low 40s I think a better enthusiast car is an 86/BRZ, hot hatch, or go a few thousand more and get a Z or 2.0 Supra.
There’s are things I like and don’t like about my 2024 ecoboost. I love the driving experience since it suits my needs and puts a smile on me every time I drive and I like the overall look of the car which is a hit or miss I know for people. The things I don’t like is 95% of everything you need to access like AC/heat is on the touchscreen dash and there’s been numerous times I will start my car and the middle dash doesn’t come active for a few moments which means no back camera and can’t control volume or anything on the screen unless you wait a few moments or restart the vehicle. Another issue that I have is it likes to disconnect from my phone a lot and I’ve never had it happen in any other vehicles and it does suck when I’m driving listening to a banger song just for it to lag all over and eventually nothing is playing. The black bar that separate the screens also somewhat annoys me like why not fully complete it and the dash computer does get hot I’ve noticed which I wonder since Saleen made a cover system for their 2024 model if there will be versions to install in the ecoboost.
The lag issue is the animations, mostly. They look amazing the first few times but I wonder if at 10k miles you be tired of them. Hopefully they implement something to disable it.
FOLKS (and @TheTopher), just a PSA to everyone, Ford has moved the 6-speed manual transmissions and paddle shifters to the higher trim levels. This Ecoboost Premium is closer to their base level/low-end trim. That's why it lacks paddles and/or a stick shift. The GT Fastback and up (including Dark Horse) have stick shifts available. I'm guessing it's a bit of an acknowledgement by Ford that the people buying *new* cars with stick shifts in North America are almost entirely enthusiasts that already want a more powerful engine with a stick shift.
I don’t think anyone has done a comparison but the 230i and Ecoboost Mustang are almost direct competitors. The 5.0 vs the m240i. And the m2 and dark horse.
Can't wait for the 6 speed GT review, if it happens. That MT-82 is the only thing holding me back from getting a new Mustang. I've heard horror stories of it locking out of gear during spirited driving, breaking at stock power levels, etc. The Dark Horse has the much better Tremec, so I'm hoping a GT comes through.
Former S550 owner here. I had the new S650 ecoboost as a rental in Vegas and I was thoroughly unimpressed. The touch control everything was sub par, toggling between modes took too long and had choppy animations, and the transmission had all of the issues Topher mentioned.
Agree. Had a rental recently in Miami. The transmission is terrible. Really ruins the experience. Also, the screen…trash. Previous years were much better.
Ford offered to buy my car back for pretty much what I paid for it. I like the ecoboost because of its gas efficiency and lightness, but the lack of a manual is really a bummer. A convertible GT wouldn’t be feasible for my pockets 😢😅
I'm starting to see used S550 ecoboosts with the manual for sale for around $12k. Great entry car for autocross, drifting, etc. I compete in time attack with mine and it does very well.
People really need to educate themselves and put more detail out there. Yes an ecoboost with 60k miles and no options/packages and probably even a crashed title is 12k. If you're getting one you better get one fully loaded or you're gonna hate your life
Seems pretty competent for the price though given that the GT exists for slightly more it would be tough to justify for an enthusiast. Quite decent for a relatively affordable commuter though. I would've gladly taken this over my Ford focus 10 years ago.
People that say this are REALLY getting annoying. You need to read up and educate yourself some more. Yes a BASE super BARE minimum GT is close to that price. But that's what poor people get. I'd much rather have an ecoboost that actually has all the options/packages/ a nice interior, etc for 40k than a basic GT for 40k
@@BrayZap That's unfortunate that you find other opinions annoying, but I don't mind barebones if the drivetrain and handling are sorted. I don't think the car is by any means bad.
Was never a fan of the ecoboost because why have these when you can have a V8? Now that I'm a bit older I understand the car market more and had the chance to drive an eco boost and an older v6 mid 2010's model. I gotta say they can boogie and get down, they definitely handle a lot better than the old ones with the solid axles. I think the improvements made the mustang so much better. However, the price for one of these and the build quality I'm not too keen on, it doesn't seem to know what is it. No paddle shifters but it has a line lock on an ecoboost? Like what? I understand everything is more expensive nowadays, but this is more expensive than my GR Corolla? Albeit only by $1000 but still crazy.
They sell more of these then the gt’s by far. A lot of people just like the look and it does have good performance compared to most cars out there especially at the price point. Without these they wouldn’t be able to continue to make the v8s due to low sales numbers on them. Overall a pretty solid sporty car
Just got one in March of this year. Hate the car, it had so many problems already. My fuel level drops to zero after it reaches quarter. Instrument cluster, window, side mirrors have started making rattling noises. My wipers have gone bad after just 3.5k miles and ford doesn’t cover it under warranty.
I had an s550 base, and loved it. The base is way more balanced and you get a perfect daily car, even by weird American standards. But the price with premium EcoBoost is so bad. You have to love 4cyl too much to purchase it for 40k+. I think the premium EcoBoost should be a more dedicated track car. Might be cool if they make a dark horse but for EcoBoost instead of leather seats and 3 same-sounding exhaust options.
The s550 ecoboost high performance pack with brembos, 330 hp, Recaro seats, everything lightly used is like 30k right now. Idk why anyone on earth would get this
It's a shame they took away the paddles on the normal trims, the only way to get them now is by going with the performance pack, which just makes it less of a value and more of a reason to get a GT
I drive a LT1 10-speed. Personally i think the paddle shifters are kind of useless because its just way too many gears to shift between. Also they arent nearly as responsive as a Dual Clutch or even the ZF8 speed. The Camaro does have a good calibration of the trans in sport mode so personally I almost never use the paddle shifters except when i need to upshift after going WOT. I agree it should have them standard but I dont think its a huge deal. Low mode seems to keep revs at 3-4K rpms which is perfect.
The paddle shifters are great for downshifting because the 10 speeds tend to sit at the wrong (higher) gear a lot. Downshifting to accelerate is a must if you want to be in the right powerband.
@@raneer_6567 why would you need that in normal driving? I understand if you track the car but in normal driving flooring the gas pedal is quicker than down shifting manually with gears. In sport mode my Camaro will obviously try to get to the highest gear when I'm done accelerating lol. If you need to accelerate just press the gas pedal. The 10 speed downshifts quick enough. Also as he showed in the video low mode or whatever keeps the rpms around 3-4K which is perfect
@@raneer_6567 also upshifting with the paddles are slower anyway. That's the main reason I don't care to use them. Nice to have but dunno if it's really a deal breaker. It's stupid that Ford didn't put them as standard but again it's an Ecoboost and most people are cruising
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 I've had plenty of times when I needed to downshift to pass somebody or to make a turn because the car was in way too high of a gear. If you're cruising in regular drive mode at 40 mph in 10th gear and you need to overtake someone, it's quicker to downshift yourself to pass someone than to wait for the car to do it.
You can get a 330 hp ecoboost high performance pack with a manual or 10 speed, recaro seats, active exhaust, brembos, EVERYTHING for 30k lightly used right now. Best 4 cyl car for the price right now no reason to even look at an ugly s650
You would be wrong. I’ve driven both the 550 and the 650 eco-boost. The 650 is miles better. It feels more refined, and even the look out over the hood is better. If you get the high-performance pack in the 650 eco, it comes with paddle shifters and a drift brake too! I just built one out at a Ford dealership yesterday and the MSRP came out to 37K. The only option I put on it was the high-performance pack. Because I wanted the 3.55 torsen and upgraded brakes and suspension Edit: one last thing the new eco-boost engine comes with port and direct injection. Better for negating carbon build up.
@@sammyjammy6647 none of that really makes sense and is completely subjective lol, looking out over the hood? Refined ride? This a sports car.. The s550 looks worlds better as well
@skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy90 build quality is on ford, because the gm one doesn't have issues, so assuming the 10 speed auto was made correctly, it'll always shift faster than any manual
Does the new mustang have the same 10 speed auto transmission than the mustang 10 speed before from technic side? Or is the a new developed transmission with faster gear shifts?
im just here to thank everyone whos a v8 hardo who drives down the price of the eco. just got my eco premium for 36k while those fools are paying between 50-65 for a gt. car is phenomenal
For a car like this paddle shifter should be standard. The way Ford configured this thing makes the base Mustang a rental cruiser and not a sport GT car.
I think anyone would be incredibly stupid to buy a new ecoboost at all. Most any new 4cyl has better features for that price. Manual, paddle shifters, better infotainment, better speed, and better mpg
Faster? No. The 2024 315 HP engine is the fastest ecoboost engine ever developed. More fun? Why? You can get paddle shifters with the performance package on the 2024. Car and Driver mag hit 4.5 seconds 0-60 mph with this car, their fastest time ever for an ecoboost Stang..
@@F7RIZI Internet says your car has 330 hp stock. I wonder why the hp on the 2024 didn't go up with the pp added? Weird. Anyway, my 2024 is plenty fast for me and we both pass more gas stations than the GT's do for a whopping .3 second difference 0-60. (Car and Driver ran a 4.2 with the GT) Oh....and less insurance which is a biggie in Florida.
@@fooballyoubecause the S550 HPP was derived from the Focus RS turbo and heads. It had a much flatter torque curve than the regular EB but also used a lot more fuel. It was the best Ecoboost Mustang they ever made, but it still not as good as the GT. I owned both, and the fuel economy is very similar. It was decently quick, but past 70 mph the GT will keep pulling hard and the HPP starts to fade. And it sounds terrible compared to the Coyote.
I’ve been a long time fan of the channel and I work for Ford now. I mean no disrespect, but you said you went online to option one of these. You can option this with paddles but I do agree it should just be standard. Thank you for all the great content!
the lack of paddle shifters killed it for me. aside from the lack of manual
Same here! Otherwise looks very cool and quite quick, but no option of control of shifts is a bummer for a sports car. Paddles would be awesome!
Yeah like what??, i can understand that i don't have any in my Eco box, but not having any in a performance car? kinda weird, unless ford doesnt trust the people that buy them, it probably makes it harder to do donuts in them
Paddles were previously added if optioned with the Performance Package. However, the Performance Package has been dropped for the 2025MY. The Ecoboost has officially been sentenced to rental car purgatory.
10 speed is faster than any manual
@@califaern3sto we know, but being able to decide which gear your in is more fun, and keeps a bit of the manual spirit
40 grand for a 4 cyl mustang with no manual or paddle shifters. Just get an 86/brz at that point lol
Exactly, I know that technically the Mustang is more “powerful” and “quicker” but honestly not by that much if were looking at power to weight ratios. Also the 86/BRZ will be a better handler. The Ecoboost isn’t bad but yikes that price sucks.
Closer to $45k with the options this model has, not including destination.
Bought a well equipeed GT in 2021 for roughly the same price. Wild how badly these things have inflated in cost.
You could literally get a 12 yr old gt500 putting 500-550hp..why would anyone spend 40k usd on this..
At least they usually throw in about 5 recalls for free...
paying 40k for a subaru would also be idiotic
...no paddle shifters or manual mode at all? That's honestly really disappointing
disappointing but not surprising...
New Mustang has a manual just for Mustang GT and Mustang dark horse
Wait. Why did they take away the paddle shifters. Thats the best part of the 4cyl auto lol
This car is for regular people not for car people
you have to opt for the Performance Pack for the paddle shifters
I never understood why ud want paddle shifters on automatic. You want the manual experience get a manual
@@Duran762 paddles gives u both options. u can daily it then sporty shift when u want
@@JohnnyBitcoin lmao so many "regular cars" have paddle shifters, i.e., mazda 3, lots of SUVs (usually fake cuz CVT but whatever). This is just Ford cutting costs and putting paddles on a paywall to scam people for more money
That touchscreen. Were you eating Cheetos? 😂😂😂
lol Nope, just existing!
That’s the first thing I noticed. It’s pretty bad! I would prefer a matte finish on the screen
Sometimes I think Mazda got it right with the center command knob…
@@CreateR900Fr, I don't want people touching their sticky hands everywhere
Screen protector is the first thing I would do.
Really weird that there’s no paddle shifters….
What's the issue with that?
@@More_Row no paddle shifters is one thing but not being able to change the gears yourself like on the shift lever ruins the driving experience, for me at least
@@More_Row Really? It's the only redeeming quality of an auto transmission, lol.
@@acerusea5156 true, I have to admit I though it was a normal not an automatic
@@hhasteand even then it’s usually garbage….
Love my 24 ecoboost premium didn't use the paddle shifters on hardly any car I've had with them and my 0-60 was 4.48 I'll take that
Good for you if you like v-4s
@@larrylarry891720bucks you don’t have a car or have one not as nice 😭😭
@@kiwifire0294 Ok child lol. I have 3 cars and 2 SUVs
@larrylarry8917 It's not a v4, it's an I4 (inline 4)
I knocked this for not having paddle shifters or manual shifting in general, but I went and test drove one of these yesterday. Premium, 201A package, active exhaust in vapor blue and I'm 90% sure its going to be my next car.
no paddle shifters is criminal 😆😆
what's wrong about that?
@@More_Rowyou don’t have control over which gear you’re in
@@Stormlt What do you think the shifter in console is for 😂😂
Right!? The flexibility of having both automatic and manual modes is something I look for in a daily
@@More_Row if it was a Prius nothing would be wrong but this is a Mustang
Lol the blinkers sound like a horse galloping.
Very cool. I was hoping you would get this in. If it had paddles, this might be one of the best bang for buck vehicles out there. Thanks for taking us on the drive!
Seriously the BEST ecobo S650 commentary video I've watched, thanks for precious advice 🎉
I love the idea of the ecoboost and its reasonable affordability while still being able to have some fun, but honestly I think it'd be better just to upgrade to the GT
I would love a Dark Horse. But yeahhh way too $$
I’m sure the cost for insurance between GT and eco boost is significant.
This would be plenty fun with a manual, but you can't even get paddle shifters on this thing...
Ecoboost is for people who like the look of a Mustang but don't care about performance too much.
@@RobK-ri4rfI have a 2019 6 speed eco I drive it because it moves quickly looks sexy and gets good mpg
Deffinetly gonna own this in the future! I currently drive a 2021 ecoboost mustang
Assuming you took out a loan, you don't own your 2021. Itd be dumb just to trade it in on negative equity for a slightly newer car that isn't even upgrading anything. Pay off the 2021 and drive it to the wheels fall off, unless you love owing money on things you'll never own the rest of your life.
So much hate on this car! I just picked mine up (this exact model, down to the color) recently and I love it!
I’m not planning on racing, but I’m more than happy it can go fast if I want. I could’ve gotten the GT, but that cars too expensive to just have the base model and it eat more gas.
The price of the base GT is the same as the ecoboost premium, in yellow, with legit anything and everything you want to add extra…well worth it over the GT
To each their own of course
What color you got dude
I can't drive a manual, so I can't judge the automatic, but the lack of paddle shifters sucks. Those things are so much more fun.
You can easily learn brother
My 2014 Ford Escape at least had a button on the shifter to change gears. It wasn't good, but you could at least tell the transmission what to do. No shifting options in a Mustang is just crazy.
OMG fingerprints! Makes me appreciate the knob in the Mazda that much more.
Paddle shifters are an option with the performance package. The star button can be set to track exhaust
No Perf Pack yet for the '25
Please tell me you're joking.
It looks sweet on the interior, but at low 40s I think a better enthusiast car is an 86/BRZ, hot hatch, or go a few thousand more and get a Z or 2.0 Supra.
that thing reminds me of Bumblebee from Transformers. Also, WHERE ARE THE MANUAL STANGS????
You need to get the GT and Dark Horse trims
@@danield8528 YUP
I’m so glad manufacturers are finally starting to make some good looking yellow colors. Instead of the pumpkin orange and school bus yellows,lol!!
There’s are things I like and don’t like about my 2024 ecoboost. I love the driving experience since it suits my needs and puts a smile on me every time I drive and I like the overall look of the car which is a hit or miss I know for people. The things I don’t like is 95% of everything you need to access like AC/heat is on the touchscreen dash and there’s been numerous times I will start my car and the middle dash doesn’t come active for a few moments which means no back camera and can’t control volume or anything on the screen unless you wait a few moments or restart the vehicle. Another issue that I have is it likes to disconnect from my phone a lot and I’ve never had it happen in any other vehicles and it does suck when I’m driving listening to a banger song just for it to lag all over and eventually nothing is playing. The black bar that separate the screens also somewhat annoys me like why not fully complete it and the dash computer does get hot I’ve noticed which I wonder since Saleen made a cover system for their 2024 model if there will be versions to install in the ecoboost.
As much as I love the styling on these 24 models, for the price of these things I’d rather have a 21-23 5.0 tbh
Lmao why did I think there was a lawnmower in the background when he was doing the walk around💀
Same 😂
@@2015BLOXXER LOL
🤣🤣🤣
Great vid. Not annoying, you don't mumble, try to be clever, just the car... Just the info. THANK YOU
The lag issue is the animations, mostly. They look amazing the first few times but I wonder if at 10k miles you be tired of them. Hopefully they implement something to disable it.
Nice ride for sure! But bummer no paddles available. Can't you get those with a performance upgrade or the top level of the Ecoboost?
Yes, paddle shifters come with the high performance package on the 2024 ecoboosts.
@@davidj2452 Cool!
@@davidj2452 So they're screwing g people .
@@jackfishcampbell6745 yes
Great review. Are you going to review the mustang gt premium as well? Thnx
FOLKS (and @TheTopher), just a PSA to everyone, Ford has moved the 6-speed manual transmissions and paddle shifters to the higher trim levels. This Ecoboost Premium is closer to their base level/low-end trim. That's why it lacks paddles and/or a stick shift. The GT Fastback and up (including Dark Horse) have stick shifts available.
I'm guessing it's a bit of an acknowledgement by Ford that the people buying *new* cars with stick shifts in North America are almost entirely enthusiasts that already want a more powerful engine with a stick shift.
Yes i wish this had a manual option, but man that looks likr a very enjoyable daily driver.
I actually love this yellow on the Ford Mustang (:
I have a 2024 Ecoboost Premium and I have manual and paddle shifters
I don’t think anyone has done a comparison but the 230i and Ecoboost Mustang are almost direct competitors. The 5.0 vs the m240i. And the m2 and dark horse.
I hate the newer ''flat panel'' dash boards.
Can't wait for the 6 speed GT review, if it happens. That MT-82 is the only thing holding me back from getting a new Mustang. I've heard horror stories of it locking out of gear during spirited driving, breaking at stock power levels, etc. The Dark Horse has the much better Tremec, so I'm hoping a GT comes through.
Former S550 owner here. I had the new S650 ecoboost as a rental in Vegas and I was thoroughly unimpressed. The touch control everything was sub par, toggling between modes took too long and had choppy animations, and the transmission had all of the issues Topher mentioned.
Agree. but it is so fast now, I bet it is fun to play every stoplight!
Agree. Had a rental recently in Miami. The transmission is terrible. Really ruins the experience. Also, the screen…trash. Previous years were much better.
The lack of paddle shifters would be a deal breaker for me honestly that’s absolutely diabolical
first thing that i noticed is the amount of fingerprints :D
That's after 1 day!
I hate em
This is a good car to buy slightly used and heavily depreciatted
NO PADDLES IN A MUSTANG IS A CRIME
creaks and rattles are a dealbreaker, especially for 40 grand
Sounds like Mini 4-cylinder.
Ford offered to buy my car back for pretty much what I paid for it. I like the ecoboost because of its gas efficiency and lightness, but the lack of a manual is really a bummer. A convertible GT wouldn’t be feasible for my pockets 😢😅
Buy a CPO S550 GT. The Gen 3 Coyote is still better than the Gen 4.
I'm starting to see used S550 ecoboosts with the manual for sale for around $12k. Great entry car for autocross, drifting, etc. I compete in time attack with mine and it does very well.
People really need to educate themselves and put more detail out there. Yes an ecoboost with 60k miles and no options/packages and probably even a crashed title is 12k.
If you're getting one you better get one fully loaded or you're gonna hate your life
Entry car. Bro 350 horse is not really entry. In the 90s cars were lucky 215 the gts .
@@BrayZap base no options is where it’s at
Seems pretty competent for the price though given that the GT exists for slightly more it would be tough to justify for an enthusiast. Quite decent for a relatively affordable commuter though. I would've gladly taken this over my Ford focus 10 years ago.
A 43K focus?
@@CWFL5 lol, no, but 10 years ago the prices would've been much closer
People that say this are REALLY getting annoying. You need to read up and educate yourself some more.
Yes a BASE super BARE minimum GT is close to that price. But that's what poor people get.
I'd much rather have an ecoboost that actually has all the options/packages/ a nice interior, etc for 40k than a basic GT for 40k
@@BrayZap That's unfortunate that you find other opinions annoying, but I don't mind barebones if the drivetrain and handling are sorted. I don't think the car is by any means bad.
Was never a fan of the ecoboost because why have these when you can have a V8? Now that I'm a bit older I understand the car market more and had the chance to drive an eco boost and an older v6 mid 2010's model. I gotta say they can boogie and get down, they definitely handle a lot better than the old ones with the solid axles. I think the improvements made the mustang so much better. However, the price for one of these and the build quality I'm not too keen on, it doesn't seem to know what is it. No paddle shifters but it has a line lock on an ecoboost? Like what? I understand everything is more expensive nowadays, but this is more expensive than my GR Corolla? Albeit only by $1000 but still crazy.
They sell more of these then the gt’s by far. A lot of people just like the look and it does have good performance compared to most cars out there especially at the price point. Without these they wouldn’t be able to continue to make the v8s due to low sales numbers on them. Overall a pretty solid sporty car
it actually sounds like a lawnmower
LOL
It does not
@@paulr1010 Oh sorry a Weedwacker
I find this Mustang intresting to own as they have gone from a loud muscle car to a nimble city car. It'll work well for casual sportscar owners.
3:36 we can finally see his face.
Look at his older videos. He shows his face often
i would take a sequential manual mode over paddle shifters all day but there isnt even that. thats crazy
My dream car ❤
I was like this looks familiar but he’s just driving around my town
Just got one in March of this year. Hate the car, it had so many problems already. My fuel level drops to zero after it reaches quarter. Instrument cluster, window, side mirrors have started making rattling noises. My wipers have gone bad after just 3.5k miles and ford doesn’t cover it under warranty.
I love this rear spoiler, please where can I buy it
Man I’m sick they killed the manual for the Ecoboost
The fact that every new mustang doesn't have a manual option is criminal.
Only the GT gets a manual option
@@TheTopherand a dark horse too
I had an s550 base, and loved it. The base is way more balanced and you get a perfect daily car, even by weird American standards. But the price with premium EcoBoost is so bad. You have to love 4cyl too much to purchase it for 40k+. I think the premium EcoBoost should be a more dedicated track car. Might be cool if they make a dark horse but for EcoBoost instead of leather seats and 3 same-sounding exhaust options.
The s550 ecoboost high performance pack with brembos, 330 hp, Recaro seats, everything lightly used is like 30k right now. Idk why anyone on earth would get this
Sounds extremely good but no paddle shifters is a deal breaker
It's a shame they took away the paddles on the normal trims, the only way to get them now is by going with the performance pack, which just makes it less of a value and more of a reason to get a GT
Topher you live a great life man 💯
I drive a LT1 10-speed. Personally i think the paddle shifters are kind of useless because its just way too many gears to shift between. Also they arent nearly as responsive as a Dual Clutch or even the ZF8 speed. The Camaro does have a good calibration of the trans in sport mode so personally I almost never use the paddle shifters except when i need to upshift after going WOT.
I agree it should have them standard but I dont think its a huge deal. Low mode seems to keep revs at 3-4K rpms which is perfect.
The paddle shifters are great for downshifting because the 10 speeds tend to sit at the wrong (higher) gear a lot. Downshifting to accelerate is a must if you want to be in the right powerband.
@@raneer_6567 why would you need that in normal driving? I understand if you track the car but in normal driving flooring the gas pedal is quicker than down shifting manually with gears.
In sport mode my Camaro will obviously try to get to the highest gear when I'm done accelerating lol.
If you need to accelerate just press the gas pedal. The 10 speed downshifts quick enough. Also as he showed in the video low mode or whatever keeps the rpms around 3-4K which is perfect
@@raneer_6567 also upshifting with the paddles are slower anyway. That's the main reason I don't care to use them. Nice to have but dunno if it's really a deal breaker. It's stupid that Ford didn't put them as standard but again it's an Ecoboost and most people are cruising
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 I've had plenty of times when I needed to downshift to pass somebody or to make a turn because the car was in way too high of a gear. If you're cruising in regular drive mode at 40 mph in 10th gear and you need to overtake someone, it's quicker to downshift yourself to pass someone than to wait for the car to do it.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 I'm talking about downshifting. I rarely ever upshift with the 10 speed.
You can get a 330 hp ecoboost high performance pack with a manual or 10 speed, recaro seats, active exhaust, brembos, EVERYTHING for 30k lightly used right now. Best 4 cyl car for the price right now no reason to even look at an ugly s650
You would be wrong. I’ve driven both the 550 and the 650 eco-boost. The 650 is miles better. It feels more refined, and even the look out over the hood is better. If you get the high-performance pack in the 650 eco, it comes with paddle shifters and a drift brake too! I just built one out at a Ford dealership yesterday and the MSRP came out to 37K. The only option I put on it was the high-performance pack. Because I wanted the 3.55 torsen and upgraded brakes and suspension
Edit: one last thing the new eco-boost engine comes with port and direct injection. Better for negating carbon build up.
@@sammyjammy6647 none of that really makes sense and is completely subjective lol, looking out over the hood? Refined ride? This a sports car..
The s550 looks worlds better as well
Im waiting for you to try the Ford Focus STLine :´(
Get those recalls fix because their coming quick for a new car
For that I’ll get the ford focus rs
That 10 speed auto is a beast! Better than the manual
My friend had a 10 speed eco boost. Went through 3 transmissions by 30k miles. the 10 speed has been notoriously known as trash 😂
@skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy90 build quality is on ford, because the gm one doesn't have issues, so assuming the 10 speed auto was made correctly, it'll always shift faster than any manual
@@califaern3sto yes, theoretically the auto is better than manual in performance, but Ford quality sucks lol. GM 10 speed much better
Can't choose between this or 2025 GR86 MT
Exhaust note is awful, but I really like the blackout front and wheels on the yellow
Coming to a rental lot near you! Joking aside I feel like a used 4 series is a much better buy than this
Does the new mustang have the same 10 speed auto transmission than the mustang 10 speed before from technic side? Or is the a new developed transmission with faster gear shifts?
im just here to thank everyone whos a v8 hardo who drives down the price of the eco. just got my eco premium for 36k while those fools are paying between 50-65 for a gt. car is phenomenal
For a car like this paddle shifter should be standard. The way Ford configured this thing makes the base Mustang a rental cruiser and not a sport GT car.
Couple grand more get a GT you will not be disappointed
The east Indians in Canada are gonna eat this right up!
How’s the cabin wind noise?
Like most lower trim Mustangs in the past, this one looks good, and, uh...
Stunning car forsure. So bored of new cars or most new cars
Large touchscreens but they’re laggy… unacceptable for 2024
I think anyone would be incredibly stupid to buy a new ecoboost at all. Most any new 4cyl has better features for that price. Manual, paddle shifters, better infotainment, better speed, and better mpg
A used Genesis G70 is about the same wheelbase - a used 3.3T would cost similar $ and be a much nicer daily driving experience.
Except would turn 0 heads and all around a boring ride. Thats not the point of this car. It's to grab people's attention and be a fun car
no manual?
I really dislike the exhaust noise.
That's what you get with a 4 cylinder lawnmower engine
Like the Beatles Song "Yellow Submarine" (smile) I Like It.
Honestly, the EcoBoost isn’t a real Mustang. Where’s the V8? Nice alternative for those who don’t mind and want to save fuel though.
The 2023 ecoboost is so much more fun and alot faster and has paddle shifters
Faster? No. The 2024 315 HP engine is the fastest ecoboost engine ever developed. More fun? Why? You can get paddle shifters with the performance package on the 2024. Car and Driver mag hit 4.5 seconds 0-60 mph with this car, their fastest time ever for an ecoboost Stang..
@@fooballyou my 2023 mustang ecoboost hpp has 350 hp stock… 0-60 4.5 seconds
@@F7RIZI Internet says your car has 330 hp stock. I wonder why the hp on the 2024 didn't go up with the pp added? Weird. Anyway, my 2024 is plenty fast for me and we both pass more gas stations than the GT's do for a whopping .3 second difference 0-60. (Car and Driver ran a 4.2 with the GT) Oh....and less insurance which is a biggie in Florida.
@@fooballyoubecause the S550 HPP was derived from the Focus RS turbo and heads. It had a much flatter torque curve than the regular EB but also used a lot more fuel. It was the best Ecoboost Mustang they ever made, but it still not as good as the GT. I owned both, and the fuel economy is very similar. It was decently quick, but past 70 mph the GT will keep pulling hard and the HPP starts to fade. And it sounds terrible compared to the Coyote.
No paddle shifters. HPP has been discontinued. No manual. Ford nerfing the ecoboost hard.
Ford really said this time ecoboost will be a rental car by not adding paddles and manual
No paddle shifters and manual mode is really weird
Nice Ford it's my Favourite Brand!❤🔥
For recalls?
Ford Mustang are my favorite sport cars
I agree, eco boost mustang trim is one of the best entry level sport cars. So much fun to drive and feel the even
balance of the car
I’ve been a long time fan of the channel and I work for Ford now. I mean no disrespect, but you said you went online to option one of these. You can option this with paddles but I do agree it should just be standard. Thank you for all the great content!
Wow they took away the paddle shifters, and drove up the cost
No paddle shifters?
What on earth.
Don't understand not having a way to manually shift. My 2018 Ecosport could pick gears!
Well, it could a few times... FORD.
The build and price for the 2025 mustang says it includes paddle shifter for the 10 speed. Was this a 2024 only spec? Makes no sense
Not sure why there's no paddle shift in a performance car, even my $18k econo box got paddle shifter lol
No flappy paddles? That is really strange for this sort of vehicle...
For $43k you can do much better with used options.
Still a very decent option for its price, but certainly lacking compared to it's previous generation
This. The s550 ecoboost high performance pack fully loaded offers WAY much more plus 330 hp