🌏 Get NordVPN 2Y plan + 4 months free here ➼ nordvpn.com/amtrakguy365 It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌ Thank you for watching! I figured a list format video would be a fun way to cover a handful of lesser known Amtrak trains that weren't documented very much. If you wanna see more list style videos, just let me know! CORRECTION: at 7:00, it should be March 5th, 1972. Also I don't know why the clip at 8:58 glitches out and flashes black, must be a ghost lol.
I blame Union Pacific for failing to accommodate Amtrak after traveling the LA and Salt Lake City railroad to simply have more double track so that the train can beat the car and it can because traffic is nothing the same as all mainlines to and from Chicago
Thanks for including CoasterFans clip at 9:37. I am a chair member of the Chatham depot, which was shown at that time mark. We just finished painting the building into its original C&A colors. Come down sometime and we'll give you a tour!
Great and informative video! As a certified TP&W foamer (who also wrote an article on the Prairie Marksman), there's some additional fixes I wanted to throw in. I'm sure you found some of these, but had to cut for simplicity or time, but here's this. - The first train on August 10, 1980 saw nearly 2,000 visitors to the station. How many were on the first run, I'm unsure. The first week, the train saw around 60 passengers, below the 75 per train they had wanted. Sometimes it grew to 85 per train, but not long. - The train also had an issue on where it was. A decade earlier, a river barge hit the TP&W's bridge over the Illinois River, so routing the train over the Peoria & Pekin Union bridge would be about an extra 30 minutes. Both a taxi or bus service would've had high prices too. - Not only that, but the station was in a bad spot, and lacked essential facilities. - Hostility between a Peoria Journal Star editor and the train.
Another rather short (but not as short lived) operation was the "Arrowhead" train from April 15, 1975 to April 30th, 1978. Taking over from the former Burlington Northern inherited Badger and Gopher trains, Amtrak operated the service between Duluth and Minneapolis, operating in tandem with the North Coast Hiawatha (and then later the revived Empire Builder). The train would be rebranded into the "North Star" which served beyond into the mid-80s, before being axed in 1985. One oddity of service was the usage of foreign locomotives on the train. On a handful of occasions, two Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range SD9s (129 and 130) were spot hired by Amtrak due to their steam heating capability. They would often run in a pair, or with an Amtrak locomotive. SDP40Fs were also being used as power when E units or the SD9s weren't being leased.
I would love to see a complete (probably hour long) list of all discountined amtrak trains (not including trains that still exist and have thier name changed) I still have so many questions about amtrak routes that don't exist anymore
makes sense, that route goes through the delta and passes several creeks that basically act as swamps. you can even hear the toads croaking in chorus from the campsites in some areas
You may know the rumor that Peoria will undergo some form of testing to see a new Amtrak line to Chicago, so maybe the Prairie Marksman could make a return. If you ask me, I think it’d be great. Better than driving through winding country roads; I’ve made trips to Chillicothe to Chicago and man it sucks. But we’ll see how that plan pans out. Great video, as always!
I say bring back the fort Pitt but extend it all the way to state college Pennsylvania via the nittany and bald eagle to appeal to students, staff and sports fans at penn state
A great video about these short lived Amtrak Passenger Trains, especially the two that were in my home state of California. It was a shame that they lost their grand train services. At least they would be remembered. Out of the six, I would’ve like to see the Spirit of California service that used to go through my home city San Jose, California. They been running and then ending it long before I was born. Not to mention I’m now 20 years old. Also since you have been using two old footage clips of Amtrak’s Spirit of California that has the logo of the Western Railway Museum, I honestly wanna tell you that I have went to the Western Railway Museum in Suisun City, California. That was back in November 9th and it was my very first visit to the railroad museum.
There is one passenger train from Amtrak that lasted 5 years and 5 months in service. The name of the train was the Lone Star. It operated from Chicago to Houston on trackage owned by ATSF. Not as short lived as the ones in the video but still interesting
Agreed. At least some of them have a chance of revival such as the route of the former desert wind, the new and probably temporary Floridian and others. But it good to hear amtrakguy365 describe it in his own perspective. I seen videos on these trains, but it nice to hear from it. Great video too. Also nice to hear the lake country limited again. The Las Vegas limited ran on similar trackage to desert wind. Didn’t know that they was a train before the desert wind.
Crazy that we may get something the Spirit of California back sometime in the next few years. It's going to be privately run between LA and SF as an overnight train. They're only in the planning phase, but it would be cool to have direct rail between LA and SF again, even if it's only as an overnight.
The name the Floridian was brought back, but many of the areas it served didn’t get service back. This is simply a new Service from Chicago to Miami via DC, with the route through Cincinnati to DC as the backup.
@@MarceloBenoit-trenes TP&W was controlled by Santa Fe at that time, so the tracks were pretty good at that time. If you look at Peoria and Bloomington-Normal, you wonder why Bloomington had so many more riders than Peoria did. Bloomington did have more service and a better railroad, and Amtrak came to Bloomington in 1971, while Rock Island claimed it did not have the money to join Amtrak, and kept on running passenger trains until 1980, I believe.
0:00 Opening 0:22 Video Sponsor: NordVPN. 1:29 6. Spirit of California 2:25 5. Fort Pitt 3:13 4. Lake Country Limited 4:39 3. Prairie Marksman 5:44 2. Campus 7:17 1. Las Vegas Limited
Spirit of CA, I never knew such a train existed. George Deukmejian? He's just as worse as when Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor. Oh yes the Janesville joke, the worst train ever. Peoria is too small of a city for Amtrak service. I love seeing commercials of the Reno fun train and Yosemite fun train.
9:40 I know this is getting into political/opinionated territory, but I don't think Amtrak is IMMEDIATELY done for As some people might think. There have been Republican representatives and senators who have fought for Amtrak funding and support. So I don't think Amtrak is going anywhere despite the upcoming Republican trifecta.
Yeah I agree but Amtrak is definitely gonna get less funding and more budget cuts by the government now that Trump is in office. Amtrak is probably gonna have a harder time expanding during Trump’s term in office as well. But Amtrak will definitely stay around cause it is a very needed transportation option for many citizens in the U.S.
@@SPRailfan4449 there is an interesting article in Trains Magazine about this and how some Amtrak officials talked to well connected people inside Trump administration in the past.
Three go into Canada (used to be four, but the fourth might one day come back). One used to connect with a passenger train in Mexico until probably the 1980s.
@commonmockery1074 Trump wanted to cut long distance funding last time, and with a more unified coalition this time around, I think it's more likely to happen. I hope I'm wrong, but it may be the end of long distance Amtrak trains
next sponsor is genshin impact im calling it inshallah The Great Northern "Winnipeg LTD." lasted like, a day under Amtrak before they canned it, not very cash money of them tbh
I Dont think the amtrack guy got political. We literally all know that most rebublicans are more car centric than mass transit orientated, probably because of districts represented but also “In recent years, the U.S. has begun planning and investing in a number of high-speed rail projects in various places, including California. In 2019, the Trump administration canceled a $929 million grant to California's high-speed rail project that had been allocated by the Obama administration. Trump described the project, which had been beset by ongoing delays and mounting costs, as a "disaster." President Joe Biden restored the revoked grant in 2021”
There is a passenger train company based in Florida called Brightline and they are expanding by building an actual high speed rail line from Las Vegas, Nevada to Rancho Cucamong, California. They are calling this service "Brightline West" and being a high speed rail line, I think it's even much better than an Amtrak train to Las Vegas. Although I hope the other planned Amtrak routes don't get canceled under the Trump administration.
Well... not exactly, as from Rancho Cucamonga you will need to connect with Metrolink and the station in Las Vegas will be in the middle of nowhere, instead of the center of the town when Amtrak operated.
You had to get political. Well during Trumps first presidency Amtrak almost broke even. He also wants to upgrade the tunnels, Penn Station and continue upgrades of the NEC. My Senator Skelator aka Tim Scott is a supporter of Brightline . On the other side Amtrak Joe did some good with the infrastructure bill. It’s about the only thing he did that’s a positive. Especially for Brightline West!
Trump had nothing to do with Amtrak breaking even nor does he “want to upgrade the tunnels”. That project is a state level project being led by the Democratic governors of New York and New Jersey. Penn Station was upgraded two years ago (not sure if you’re lying or just ignorant on that one) thanks to President Biden’s infrastructure law. Finally, the majority of the congressional Republicans oppose funding for Amtrak. Nice try though
@@trainnadimamtrakthomasalle9037 Even worse for some, he has a trifecta amount of government control (Oval Office, House of Representatives, & Senate.)
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Thank you for watching! I figured a list format video would be a fun way to cover a handful of lesser known Amtrak trains that weren't documented very much. If you wanna see more list style videos, just let me know! CORRECTION: at 7:00, it should be March 5th, 1972. Also I don't know why the clip at 8:58 glitches out and flashes black, must be a ghost lol.
Richard Branson parted ways with brightline because he has a phobia of losing 10million of his Billions of dollars.
I blame Union Pacific for failing to accommodate Amtrak after traveling the LA and Salt Lake City railroad to simply have more double track so that the train can beat the car and it can because traffic is nothing the same as all mainlines to and from Chicago
First sponsor?
Bro seriously got a sponsorship... He's moving up in the world!
Thanks for including CoasterFans clip at 9:37. I am a chair member of the Chatham depot, which was shown at that time mark. We just finished painting the building into its original C&A colors. Come down sometime and we'll give you a tour!
Great and informative video!
As a certified TP&W foamer (who also wrote an article on the Prairie Marksman), there's some additional fixes I wanted to throw in. I'm sure you found some of these, but had to cut for simplicity or time, but here's this.
- The first train on August 10, 1980 saw nearly 2,000 visitors to the station. How many were on the first run, I'm unsure. The first week, the train saw around 60 passengers, below the 75 per train they had wanted. Sometimes it grew to 85 per train, but not long.
- The train also had an issue on where it was. A decade earlier, a river barge hit the TP&W's bridge over the Illinois River, so routing the train over the Peoria & Pekin Union bridge would be about an extra 30 minutes. Both a taxi or bus service would've had high prices too.
- Not only that, but the station was in a bad spot, and lacked essential facilities.
- Hostility between a Peoria Journal Star editor and the train.
How many trains have been affected by conflict with local journalism; I’m curious now.
Athough running alittle longer then the fore mentioned. A defunct Amtrak route: The Niagara Rainbow🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲
These are the REAL classics..., I've seen other videos on TH-cam with these consists too
Love the Mario soundtracks in the background!
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Campus ran from November 1971 - March 1971? The train did so badly that time itself reversed and warped any potential success?
AHHHHHH I meant March 1972 lol. Thanks for pointing that out.
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The university students messed up the train so much it became Illinois Central again, that’s how I interpret that typo.
Another rather short (but not as short lived) operation was the "Arrowhead" train from April 15, 1975 to April 30th, 1978. Taking over from the former Burlington Northern inherited Badger and Gopher trains, Amtrak operated the service between Duluth and Minneapolis, operating in tandem with the North Coast Hiawatha (and then later the revived Empire Builder). The train would be rebranded into the "North Star" which served beyond into the mid-80s, before being axed in 1985.
One oddity of service was the usage of foreign locomotives on the train. On a handful of occasions, two Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range SD9s (129 and 130) were spot hired by Amtrak due to their steam heating capability. They would often run in a pair, or with an Amtrak locomotive. SDP40Fs were also being used as power when E units or the SD9s weren't being leased.
I would love to see a complete (probably hour long) list of all discountined amtrak trains (not including trains that still exist and have thier name changed) I still have so many questions about amtrak routes that don't exist anymore
Fun fact, the spirit of California was actually nicknamed. The mud fly according to a conductor that worked on the train at the time.
makes sense, that route goes through the delta and passes several creeks that basically act as swamps. you can even hear the toads croaking in chorus from the campsites in some areas
The Berkshire Flyer may join this list soon, just a terrible schedule with a too long detour through Albany
We want more Amtrak
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No way he’s gotten sponsored now. Also awesome vid man! lol
You may know the rumor that Peoria will undergo some form of testing to see a new Amtrak line to Chicago, so maybe the Prairie Marksman could make a return. If you ask me, I think it’d be great. Better than driving through winding country roads; I’ve made trips to Chillicothe to Chicago and man it sucks. But we’ll see how that plan pans out.
Great video, as always!
But the state will built a new station and tracks, not a bus stop in the middle of nowhere and derelict tracks with low speeds.
I say bring back the fort Pitt but extend it all the way to state college Pennsylvania via the nittany and bald eagle to appeal to students, staff and sports fans at penn state
Bro pulled in with a NordVPN sponsorship… lol
Very good video regardless!
A great video about these short lived Amtrak Passenger Trains, especially the two that were in my home state of California. It was a shame that they lost their grand train services. At least they would be remembered. Out of the six, I would’ve like to see the Spirit of California service that used to go through my home city San Jose, California. They been running and then ending it long before I was born. Not to mention I’m now 20 years old. Also since you have been using two old footage clips of Amtrak’s Spirit of California that has the logo of the Western Railway Museum, I honestly wanna tell you that I have went to the Western Railway Museum in Suisun City, California. That was back in November 9th and it was my very first visit to the railroad museum.
There is one passenger train from Amtrak that lasted 5 years and 5 months in service. The name of the train was the Lone Star. It operated from Chicago to Houston on trackage owned by ATSF. Not as short lived as the ones in the video but still interesting
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Agreed. At least some of them have a chance of revival such as the route of the former desert wind, the new and probably temporary Floridian and others. But it good to hear amtrakguy365 describe it in his own perspective. I seen videos on these trains, but it nice to hear from it. Great video too.
Also nice to hear the lake country limited again.
The Las Vegas limited ran on similar trackage to desert wind. Didn’t know that they was a train before the desert wind.
Crazy that we may get something the Spirit of California back sometime in the next few years. It's going to be privately run between LA and SF as an overnight train. They're only in the planning phase, but it would be cool to have direct rail between LA and SF again, even if it's only as an overnight.
The name the Floridian was brought back, but many of the areas it served didn’t get service back. This is simply a new Service from Chicago to Miami via DC, with the route through Cincinnati to DC as the backup.
From Las Vegas, thank you for pronouncing Nevada the correct way
cool hes back
It would be nice if the Fort Pitt still ran. I could get to Greensburg without sitting in traffic.
Crazy. You've really taken a big step up in the last year. This video especially. Only going up!!!
Thins was great video I didn't know another of this❤
Yes
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I would love to see a revival of the Spirit of California and the Las Vegas Limited since I am a Californian
This was a good one man! Glad to be of assistance!
Prairie Marksman was a good train, but few people rode it. Like most trains from Peoria, including the Rock Island Peoria Rocket.
Because of track condition.
@@MarceloBenoit-trenes TP&W was controlled by Santa Fe at that time, so the tracks were pretty good at that time. If you look at Peoria and Bloomington-Normal, you wonder why Bloomington had so many more riders than Peoria did. Bloomington did have more service and a better railroad, and Amtrak came to Bloomington in 1971, while Rock Island claimed it did not have the money to join Amtrak, and kept on running passenger trains until 1980, I believe.
imagine an amtrak train lasted for 1 day
which one of those Amtrak trains should come back ?
What about the longest lived Amtrak trains, those that are no longer a service?
I think that the Broadway Limited was the longest that at present is not in service.
5:24 has a short-lived train in a different sense: it's 366, a locomotive wrecked at Back Bay in 1990
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3:13 4. Lake Country Limited
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Spirit of CA, I never knew such a train existed. George Deukmejian? He's just as worse as when Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor. Oh yes the Janesville joke, the worst train ever. Peoria is too small of a city for Amtrak service. I love seeing commercials of the Reno fun train and Yosemite fun train.
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9:40 I know this is getting into political/opinionated territory, but I don't think Amtrak is IMMEDIATELY done for As some people might think. There have been Republican representatives and senators who have fought for Amtrak funding and support. So I don't think Amtrak is going anywhere despite the upcoming Republican trifecta.
Yeah I agree but Amtrak is definitely gonna get less funding and more budget cuts by the government now that Trump is in office. Amtrak is probably gonna have a harder time expanding during Trump’s term in office as well. But Amtrak will definitely stay around cause it is a very needed transportation option for many citizens in the U.S.
@@SPRailfan4449 there is an interesting article in Trains Magazine about this and how some Amtrak officials talked to well connected people inside Trump administration in the past.
Amtrak has survived worse but there won’t be much expansion beyond what’s already got funding
Should Amtrak trains cross-border
they already do
Three go into Canada (used to be four, but the fourth might one day come back). One used to connect with a passenger train in Mexico until probably the 1980s.
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9:40 I am a bit nervous about this.
Is this likely going to happen or is anything else going to get cut or something?
I hope not.
Probably not, I don’t think the new administration would want to cut funding to projects like that. Their focuses are elsewhere.
@commonmockery1074 Trump wanted to cut long distance funding last time, and with a more unified coalition this time around, I think it's more likely to happen. I hope I'm wrong, but it may be the end of long distance Amtrak trains
5:00 TP&W mentioned
I’m assuming the release of the Foloridian inspired you to make this video
3:15 gobbless Lake Country Limited
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The Great Northern "Winnipeg LTD." lasted like, a day under Amtrak before they canned it, not very cash money of them tbh
How did the campus run from nov 1971 to mar 1971 7:02 lol
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Amtrak should bring back Trains to Michigan Central Detroit from Chicago
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Please, Make the Video about trains in Counter Strike. in CS 2 map train came out and there’s plenty of trains on it
I Dont think the amtrack guy got political. We literally all know that most rebublicans are more car centric than mass transit orientated, probably because of districts represented but also “In recent years, the U.S. has begun planning and investing in a number of high-speed rail projects in various places, including California.
In 2019, the Trump administration canceled a $929 million grant to California's high-speed rail project that had been allocated by the Obama administration.
Trump described the project, which had been beset by ongoing delays and mounting costs, as a "disaster." President Joe Biden restored the revoked grant in 2021”
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I can’t believe I might be pinned and have more than 1 like
3 minute gang!
...not counting this new Chicago-Miami thing. Seriously, it's like the whole corporate structure forgot air travel exists.
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There is a passenger train company based in Florida called Brightline and they are expanding by building an actual high speed rail line from Las Vegas, Nevada to Rancho Cucamong, California. They are calling this service "Brightline West" and being a high speed rail line, I think it's even much better than an Amtrak train to Las Vegas. Although I hope the other planned Amtrak routes don't get canceled under the Trump administration.
Well... not exactly, as from Rancho Cucamonga you will need to connect with Metrolink and the station in Las Vegas will be in the middle of nowhere, instead of the center of the town when Amtrak operated.
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You had to get political. Well during Trumps first presidency Amtrak almost broke even. He also wants to upgrade the tunnels, Penn Station and continue upgrades of the NEC. My Senator Skelator aka Tim Scott is a supporter of Brightline . On the other side Amtrak Joe did some good with the infrastructure bill. It’s about the only thing he did that’s a positive. Especially for Brightline West!
The Gateway Project was funded by Biden already and every single Trump budget slashed Amtraks budget to zero, Congress overruled him.
Trump had nothing to do with Amtrak breaking even nor does he “want to upgrade the tunnels”. That project is a state level project being led by the Democratic governors of New York and New Jersey. Penn Station was upgraded two years ago (not sure if you’re lying or just ignorant on that one) thanks to President Biden’s infrastructure law. Finally, the majority of the congressional Republicans oppose funding for Amtrak.
Nice try though
I’m early yeah!
I know more about trains than you
Trump isn't going to do anything negative to Amtrak🙄
It was an analysis article that said it could, that doesn’t mean it will.
I assume it’ll be fine.
Cutting funding would be negative
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9:40, Donald Trump president again, oh we’re in trouble, even the railroad is in trouble, oh dear oh dear oh dear
@@trainnadimamtrakthomasalle9037 Even worse for some, he has a trifecta amount of government control (Oval Office, House of Representatives, & Senate.)
Trump 👍
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