Johannes Brahms - Piano Trio No. 2 op. 87(Suk, Starker, Katchen)(1880-2)(with full score)

Mov.1: Allegro moderato 00:12
Mov.2: Andante con moto 09:44
Mov.3: Scherzo: Presto 18:41
Mov.4: Finale: Allegro giocoso 23:20
Vn. Josef Suk
Vc. Janos Starker
Pf. Julius Katchen
It seems to have taken Brahms over two years to complete the opus 87 trio, but the result evidently pleased him and he boasted of the work to his publisher, Simrock. Brahms' close friend Clara Schumann pronounced the piece "a splendid work" and "a great musical treat." A generously proportioned work in four movements, it features a second movement andante and third movement scherzo, an arrangement common in his symphonies but reversed in his other piano trios. He had first mentioned it and a companion work, an E flat trio, in a letter to a friend in the summer of 1880, but did not reveal it to Simrock until July 1882. By then, the E flat work had disappeared.
The piece opens thickly, with strange dissonances and a heavy feel, and seems to proceed sluggishly. It is nonetheless dynamically, rhythmically, and chromatically challenging and gives the sense of being a major work, and the first movement ends with symphonic grandeur. The slow movement is similarly heavy of texture, and Brahms makes considerable use of double-stopping as a way of making the two stringed instruments sound like four or even more. The scherzo, a four-minute presto, is begun and ended by a fluttering figure which generates momentum and contains a lyrical passage of some tenderness. The finale is the most adventuresome of the four movements and contains puzzling transitions and modulations which resolve to produce powerful effects. The final dénouement of the work is positively huge, proving that, in the hands of Brahms, even the tiny piano trio can be a large and imposing work. His boasts of the piece would seem to have been true.

[@anamedeiros43]

I'm here because of Brahms.

[@timothythorne9464]

I'm here because of all Brahms' 24 (or 25) full-scale chamber works, this one is my favorite! Each movement is passionate, well-crafted and satisfying and together they comprise a chamber piece which fulfils Schumann's characterisation that "Brahms' sonatas are really symphonies in disguise."

[@magicrainyday]

Josef
Janos
Julius
Johannes...

[@aramkhachaturian8043]

The fourth movement is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good, kinda reminds me of the Simpsons theme but very vaguely.

[@timothythorne9464]

It's more like the Jetsons theme--really modern sounding for a work composed in 1882!

[@WAEVOICE]

The first five notes of that subject are the same as this one.

[@Maximilian2808]

it reminds me of ZZ Top Back to the future

[@johnvanalstine9645]

You're right. The Simpsons. I also found the theme of "Gone with the Wind" in one of Beethoven's cello sonatas. And part of the theme to the 60's show "Bonanza" in one of his early piano trios.

[@philippecirse4872]

Johannes est le brillant reflet d'une époque, c'est un astéroïde fantôme qui revient jeter son dévolu sur l'art sonore. Une onde prodigieuse chargée de paradoxes d'où s'échappent l'obscurantisme la féérie et l'irrationnel, facteurs hypnotiques défiant les âmes vulnérables en quête d'absolu. Son architecture musicale est un court tunnel qui mène à la lumière 🤠

[@eamongriffith280]

Katchen has to be one of the best pianists for Brahms

[@beeshin9945]

The 4th movement is exciting

[@user-su6mu7sm3g]

1 0:05
2 09:45
3 18:40
4 23:20

[@ronenr1405]

Thank you

[@GarGri]

Richard Church in the second part of his autobiography (The Golden Sovereign) describes hearing his brother play this at a friend’s house. He sight read the piano music and their friends played the string instruments. In his book the author states he only heard the once in1910 and here we are in 2023 being able to call it up at will

[@vid4622]

第1番から25年以上経って着手された第2番、若手のブラームスとベテランのブラームスの対照は非常に興味深いです。
瑞々しい光と、異様な光。

[@calebhu6383]

14:05 Inspired by Schubert's Unfinished?

[@archie.p_123]

2nd mov.

[@mersifusio340]

Im here because of Cioran

[@fabioarturospada4178]

Only that which invites us to falter is worthy of being listened to.

[@ivanvaladezvargas6647]

Same, the great Cioran

[@user-xw6jp6be5z]

19:58

[@PRohFullscoremusic]

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[@user-vr7lw2sq7i]

@@PRohFullscoremusic 아 애들 트리오 기출 풀릴라고 듣고있는데 심취해서 15분째 듣고있음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@vaclavmiller8032]

14:05

[@petrishalee2315]

Anyone here because of Twoset?

[@annakareninacamara6580]

Yeah! Brett's sugestions are always worth it! S2

[@aramkhachaturian8043]

was this what was playing at the end of the video?

[@petrishalee2315]

Aram Khachaturian it was level 3 (I think) of their video posted today of reading original sheet music.

[@shawnchristopherwhite3271]

Yes, I am.

[@shawnchristopherwhite3271]

@@aramkhachaturian8043 Yes

[@muk-OM]

Cioran

[@Wednesday94557]

한양대 엿머거

[@musicshin2]

?

[@pg8982]

Waaaaaaaay too slow. The second mvt. is so beautiful when played allegro

[@lluvia9894]

yes, but thats not what brahms wanted :)

[@raymondgood6555]

Tempo is perfect!!

[@timothythorne9464]

If the composer wanted a rapid tempo for the 2nd movement he would have written "Allegro" at the outset. The tempo here is perfect!

[@johnkiunke4508]

I agree it's too slow, Andante means "going" and on top of that he writes con moto

[@piano25250]

18:40

[@musicfarm_harvey]

19:58

[@gabite7079]

17:16