We're also about to host a big HF-Model Halloween-themed contest in the Discord starting today! If you wish to participate and potentially end up with your model picked apart in a video, then make sure to join the server with the link in the description and throw your model into the mix!
I don’t have pro and I sort my models by having two letters before their actual name (aa, ab, ac, etc). It works pretty well as long as you can remember what letters belong to what group of minis when you’re searching for them.
They should add the little leather straps that attach items to your hips etc. for kitbashing. I want my leather loop to stay there even though I have my axe in my hand!
I did not consider shorter sleeves with lizard hands for my trenchcoat kobolds. Smart. Just had the top one holding sticks with gardening gloves stabbed through them lol
Yes absolutely. The only issues I've had are nitpicks like chains and some spells not being able to edited Regarding videos. Maybe do the first half of the video without using pro features then the second half with pro features Using a mage who summons weapons as an example the first half might show off how it can be done using glitches etc while the second half uses kitbashing. Idk just an idea
Honestly my favourite thing is lighting. It’s so cool. Sure I’ve improved with my models but they’re not perfect but lighting? Ohh boi. The stuff you can do man. It’s so cool. God I love the lighting. Just made a bloodhunter dude who has possibly one of the coolest shots I’ve ever made entirely because of lighting
I have to admit I couldn't resist, and after +2yrs keep using HF in the non-Pro mode, asa KB was released I have subscribed. The hype was real, and I honestly think the price is fair for a year, considering that I'm on their site almost every day.
Having used kitbashing for a while now, it is SO worth it. I do think that the body tweaking should be folded into the Body>Measure module, giving scale sliders and sliders for softness, muscularity, attenuation and other attributes on a much more granular level. I hope Body Customizer is as robust as Face Customizer has been. I do wish the Pro version would work on the photo studio a bit, it's kind of clunky.
They did make a couple of tweaks to portrait mode in the latest update, mostly regarding menu layout. Notably, the background color selector (used with the two gradient backdrops) now allows you to set RGB color values directly, bringing it in line with every other color selection tool in the program.
That's my biggest annoyance in that they rolled in a feature which had been asked for, for years, into the kitbashing. Which was having hands and feet scale correctly with miniature height, meaning tall miniatures have fucking tiny hands and feet and short miniatures have absolutely massive ones.
@@luketfer Yes, I've had to scale figure height to make the hands and feet look as normal as possible, but even that is inadequate. Female figures always have huge hands no matter what you do, and the wrists and ankles are always too thick. I get that it's for 3D printing reasons, but a lot of us don't really print our figures, and there should be a world where the limitations of 3D printing are set aside so we can make the figures we want to make.
I'm fine with kit bashing being just for pro members. My only gripe is this; if someone shares a model they made (which they often do) via kit bashing I can't buy it. I'm fine with not being able to edit it without pro and whatnot but I should still be given the option to buy a 3d file or a physical mini of it.
I am a pro subcriber for many months now, I know that kitbashing is new and in maybe still an experimental phase but for me the biggest letdown is that while the program lets you resize object to merge and do all kind of crazy stuff. There are a lot of items, and hair and stuff that if you attempt to reduce in size the app will tell you that is cannot be 3d printed. And right now, I think half my library is stuck in a no printing available because of too small parts. And I understand, there would simply be no way they could assure delivery without parts breaking aparts and everything. But it just seem to be that this feature there are many thing you can do, but they might result in you never being able to order your figurine. You still have to adhere to their size restriction and placement which makes sense but at the same time I feel stuck inside a box, which I felt Kitbashing was a way out of the box so to speak. But with each passing day I am slowly accepting things as they are and simply have to deal with the fact that I have to change some of my model again to maybe something I like a lot less or accept I will never be able to order that model. But if on the other hand you never plan on ordering any of your minis, and only like to create them and share them or whatever. Than Kitbashing is amazing. Otherwise, I feel that the potential for mini with kitbashing is a little exagerrated not in the sense that you won't be able to do the things that you see in the videos but in the sense that if you play with reducing size, you will soon find out that your mini are now impossible to print.
This is what I vaguely refer to when I say it is "mostly" aimed at the digital side of things rather than the printing. However, considering Kitbashing was originally meant to be completely barred off for printable models, I think it's still better that they've made it technically possible even if rarely than to rule it out altogether
I don´t use hero forge very often but when I do i want to be able to create most awesome miniature I´m able to do. And since I´m going to pay for the miniature or STL file I really dislike idea of having to pay for them twice. I understand their decision since there is community of people using it to create tokens or just plaing with it.
when kitbashing came out, I started making single models. as I got used to it, however, I began thinking of ideas for complex outfits I wanted to make. I have great difficulty with posing clothing, though. over the past week, I have once again started making use of double minis to cheat my way around it, and just doing minimal modifications of the clothing on the second mini. it works great for what I want to do
There's a tremendous opportunity to open something like Kitbashing that's still in Beta up to a fraction of the audience. As with any new system, there are going to be a lot of questions, complaints, changes requested, bugs, bug fixes, problems, issues and other sorts of teething problems. It is INFINITELY easier to deal with this sort of thing on a smaller scale, when your employees aren't being OVERWHELMED by millions of messages. It means that the Beta stage will be able to proceed more smoothly, the employees won't be overwhelmed, run off their feet or exhausted, and it means that the program can more quickly and easily be moved out of Beta when it almost certainly be more widely released. Your access has not been denied. It has been delayed. All the people who make this product that you love and make (most of) it available for absolutely free is that you give them some patience so that when you DO get it, it's the best product they can provide.
Truthfully they basically will likely at some point make it free but quite frankly the only people that really benefit anyways tend to be people who use it a lot and it allows for people with pro to really get it out in the open and create best use guides (as well as community models). That said, the fact that you can make the perfectly normal human Hugh Mann who is definitely not three kobolds in a trenchcoat is somewhat powerful. Also love the fact that they warn that the model can be unbalanced and/or not able to be printed, ut understand the use it to model out for VTT stuff as well.
I just wish models would be updated. So so many old models are really unusable (I'm free user) and having new model and old at the same time can be really weird. Hero forge is great but I personally would not be willing to pay so much (+it's a subscription so I'm even less willing). Hero forge is best of it's kind I know about but currently it's not good enough especially if you are free user.
I'm not mad about it myself, although I do think that kitbashing is such a major rework of how heroforge is used, that it should be core content. That being said, yeah, free version is great right now, and they are within their rights to put it behind pro.
i have been wanting to get a pro subscription for a while now but the one thing standing in my way is that i live in europe and dont have a credit card nor a paypal account, if anything like ideal would be added to the payment system i would get a subscription right away
I love the character designs of Soul Calibur. I would be very interested to see if you could give them justice in Hero Forge. Siegfred and Nightmare as the 2 opposing sides. With their minions/fellow comrades on each side. Also, good news, no Elves! Lol!
One thing that would make Pro more attractive is a discount on physical models. Like, if I'm gonna pay $4-6 a month for Pro, couldn't I get like a $2-4 discount on minis? I don't know how frequently most HeroForge users buy minis, but I doubt most users are buying one or more minis per month. More likely, a majority of users will buy a mini every one or two years at most. Again, I don't know this for sure, and I'm speaking of a majority, not every outlier. I'm sure there are some rich weirdos who buy 10 minis a month, but there are also probably some pro subscribers who never/rarely buy physical models, so they should balance out. Derf, if you have any pull or connection with Sky Castle, you should recommend this to them.
I want a set of eyebrows as decals, most of the eyebrow models are much too dimensional. I'd also like it if we had decals for more a more natural hairline transition, i.e. "edges"/baby hairs.
Like...Do I WANT a free Kitbash...Well duh yeah. But I think it is extremely reasonable (From what I can see anyways) that it is behind the paywall. I would like to see more of a one time payment option. Even if it would be a bit on the expensive side.
Hi Derf! Do you know a platform or people or yourself perhaps who sells the service of making OC's for people when they provide their character concept and/or 2D art? I've fidled around with hero forge but I'm no good with it... For example I hate the faces and that huge chin and I'm not able to make it somewhat decent, I'm also working my but off and can't find the time to get good at it ... Anyway... Hope you can help me out or send me in the right direction ;)
I'm afraid I would not know where to direct you regarding HF commissions. It tends to be a pretty controversial subject in the community. I used to do them myself but these days I simply don't have the time to do them for any reasonable price, so I can't be of much help here, sorry
Ngl, the kit bashing feature should be a one time purchase of maybe 35/40 usd instead of a subscription, considering you are making STL files that they can then sell later. Not to mention specific individuals are really going to use this feature in the first place. (Please add crouching while aiming pose for free users at somepoint)
I don't like it, but it's absolutely fair enough. With luck it might come to free users eventually, when they get some other big new draw for pro, but even if it doesn't, they need to make money somehow. I would get pro, but it's too expensive and I don't use heroforge enough for it really to be worth it.
Sorry but if you're a person complaining about kitbashing behind a paywall then you are the problem... It's an insane tool and relatively user friendly compared to other options like... LEARNING BLENDER... so yeah. Now is it worth it to pay for kitbashing may 100% be another question. Like idk how many people are going to take advantage of it enough to actually make it worth the effective price.
I view Kitbashing as worth the purchase (plus the other features pro has), but for anyone who doesn't want to bite the bullet, it's important to remember the time-old adage that limitation breeds innovation. It's because we didn't have kitbashing that we have techniques like double modeling and all of the glitches that produced a lot of cool effects. It's perfectly fine to not have all the techniques available to you. It just means you can learn new techniques and maybe invent some that everyone, KB or not, can use
crazy how i searched up 'is heroforge subscription worth it' found and watched the two year old video, thought to myself, well that sucks...i wish there was a more recent video, i click on your channel and lo and behold.
Honestly, Pro is worth it for the credits if you have a 3D printer. The kitbashing is fun to play around with, but with the credits I can create (or buy the packs) and print and continue to "wow" my dnd players with the cool minis.
We're also about to host a big HF-Model Halloween-themed contest in the Discord starting today! If you wish to participate and potentially end up with your model picked apart in a video, then make sure to join the server with the link in the description and throw your model into the mix!
Honestly I have pro just for the fact that I can organize my models in folders. Everything else is just the icing on the cake
Agreed but honesty I wish free users could make a limited number of folders and have pro just lets you make unlimited folders like it already does
I don’t have pro and I sort my models by having two letters before their actual name (aa, ab, ac, etc). It works pretty well as long as you can remember what letters belong to what group of minis when you’re searching for them.
They should add the little leather straps that attach items to your hips etc. for kitbashing. I want my leather loop to stay there even though I have my axe in my hand!
I did not consider shorter sleeves with lizard hands for my trenchcoat kobolds. Smart. Just had the top one holding sticks with gardening gloves stabbed through them lol
that's genius too though
Yes absolutely. The only issues I've had are nitpicks like chains and some spells not being able to edited
Regarding videos. Maybe do the first half of the video without using pro features then the second half with pro features
Using a mage who summons weapons as an example the first half might show off how it can be done using glitches etc while the second half uses kitbashing. Idk just an idea
Chain weapons are now posable.
Honestly my favourite thing is lighting. It’s so cool. Sure I’ve improved with my models but they’re not perfect but lighting? Ohh boi. The stuff you can do man. It’s so cool. God I love the lighting. Just made a bloodhunter dude who has possibly one of the coolest shots I’ve ever made entirely because of lighting
Can’t wait to see the Halloween themed vid!
I have to admit I couldn't resist, and after +2yrs keep using HF in the non-Pro mode, asa KB was released I have subscribed. The hype was real, and I honestly think the price is fair for a year, considering that I'm on their site almost every day.
Dread the day that Gettar gets pro
Having used kitbashing for a while now, it is SO worth it. I do think that the body tweaking should be folded into the Body>Measure module, giving scale sliders and sliders for softness, muscularity, attenuation and other attributes on a much more granular level. I hope Body Customizer is as robust as Face Customizer has been.
I do wish the Pro version would work on the photo studio a bit, it's kind of clunky.
They did make a couple of tweaks to portrait mode in the latest update, mostly regarding menu layout. Notably, the background color selector (used with the two gradient backdrops) now allows you to set RGB color values directly, bringing it in line with every other color selection tool in the program.
That's my biggest annoyance in that they rolled in a feature which had been asked for, for years, into the kitbashing. Which was having hands and feet scale correctly with miniature height, meaning tall miniatures have fucking tiny hands and feet and short miniatures have absolutely massive ones.
@@luketfer Yes, I've had to scale figure height to make the hands and feet look as normal as possible, but even that is inadequate. Female figures always have huge hands no matter what you do, and the wrists and ankles are always too thick. I get that it's for 3D printing reasons, but a lot of us don't really print our figures, and there should be a world where the limitations of 3D printing are set aside so we can make the figures we want to make.
Thank you for this, kitbashing has me considering going pro and revamping some of my models just to give it a test.
Thank you for this one
I'm fine with kit bashing being just for pro members. My only gripe is this; if someone shares a model they made (which they often do) via kit bashing I can't buy it. I'm fine with not being able to edit it without pro and whatnot but I should still be given the option to buy a 3d file or a physical mini of it.
It would literally just be kore money for them - yeah I also don't get that.
Kitbashing is an even bigger game-changer than double modeling is in my opinion
I am a pro subcriber for many months now, I know that kitbashing is new and in maybe still an experimental phase but for me the biggest letdown is that while the program lets you resize object to merge and do all kind of crazy stuff. There are a lot of items, and hair and stuff that if you attempt to reduce in size the app will tell you that is cannot be 3d printed. And right now, I think half my library is stuck in a no printing available because of too small parts. And I understand, there would simply be no way they could assure delivery without parts breaking aparts and everything. But it just seem to be that this feature there are many thing you can do, but they might result in you never being able to order your figurine. You still have to adhere to their size restriction and placement which makes sense but at the same time I feel stuck inside a box, which I felt Kitbashing was a way out of the box so to speak.
But with each passing day I am slowly accepting things as they are and simply have to deal with the fact that I have to change some of my model again to maybe something I like a lot less or accept I will never be able to order that model. But if on the other hand you never plan on ordering any of your minis, and only like to create them and share them or whatever. Than Kitbashing is amazing. Otherwise, I feel that the potential for mini with kitbashing is a little exagerrated not in the sense that you won't be able to do the things that you see in the videos but in the sense that if you play with reducing size, you will soon find out that your mini are now impossible to print.
This is what I vaguely refer to when I say it is "mostly" aimed at the digital side of things rather than the printing. However, considering Kitbashing was originally meant to be completely barred off for printable models, I think it's still better that they've made it technically possible even if rarely than to rule it out altogether
I don´t use hero forge very often but when I do i want to be able to create most awesome miniature I´m able to do. And since I´m going to pay for the miniature or STL file I really dislike idea of having to pay for them twice. I understand their decision since there is community of people using it to create tokens or just plaing with it.
when kitbashing came out, I started making single models. as I got used to it, however, I began thinking of ideas for complex outfits I wanted to make. I have great difficulty with posing clothing, though. over the past week, I have once again started making use of double minis to cheat my way around it, and just doing minimal modifications of the clothing on the second mini. it works great for what I want to do
Woo, new vid!
There's a tremendous opportunity to open something like Kitbashing that's still in Beta up to a fraction of the audience.
As with any new system, there are going to be a lot of questions, complaints, changes requested, bugs, bug fixes, problems, issues and other sorts of teething problems.
It is INFINITELY easier to deal with this sort of thing on a smaller scale, when your employees aren't being OVERWHELMED by millions of messages. It means that the Beta stage will be able to proceed more smoothly, the employees won't be overwhelmed, run off their feet or exhausted, and it means that the program can more quickly and easily be moved out of Beta when it almost certainly be more widely released.
Your access has not been denied. It has been delayed. All the people who make this product that you love and make (most of) it available for absolutely free is that you give them some patience so that when you DO get it, it's the best product they can provide.
Truthfully they basically will likely at some point make it free but quite frankly the only people that really benefit anyways tend to be people who use it a lot and it allows for people with pro to really get it out in the open and create best use guides (as well as community models). That said, the fact that you can make the perfectly normal human Hugh Mann who is definitely not three kobolds in a trenchcoat is somewhat powerful. Also love the fact that they warn that the model can be unbalanced and/or not able to be printed, ut understand the use it to model out for VTT stuff as well.
I just wish models would be updated. So so many old models are really unusable (I'm free user) and having new model and old at the same time can be really weird. Hero forge is great but I personally would not be willing to pay so much (+it's a subscription so I'm even less willing). Hero forge is best of it's kind I know about but currently it's not good enough especially if you are free user.
body customizer!!! yes plz
Derf-tastic!
I'm not mad about it myself, although I do think that kitbashing is such a major rework of how heroforge is used, that it should be core content.
That being said, yeah, free version is great right now, and they are within their rights to put it behind pro.
Body customizer is still very early in development according to the social media manager Anica its in R&D right noq
i have been wanting to get a pro subscription for a while now but the one thing standing in my way is that i live in europe and dont have a credit card nor a paypal account, if anything like ideal would be added to the payment system i would get a subscription right away
GENUINE Question, can you model wings? Can you move the wings? Please? Does Kitbashing work on wings? Can they be posed?
How would you play the three trenchcoat kobolds in a game? I'd love to see a player actually attempt to pass that off as a PC.
I love the character designs of Soul Calibur. I would be very interested to see if you could give them justice in Hero Forge. Siegfred and Nightmare as the 2 opposing sides. With their minions/fellow comrades on each side. Also, good news, no Elves! Lol!
One thing that would make Pro more attractive is a discount on physical models. Like, if I'm gonna pay $4-6 a month for Pro, couldn't I get like a $2-4 discount on minis? I don't know how frequently most HeroForge users buy minis, but I doubt most users are buying one or more minis per month. More likely, a majority of users will buy a mini every one or two years at most. Again, I don't know this for sure, and I'm speaking of a majority, not every outlier. I'm sure there are some rich weirdos who buy 10 minis a month, but there are also probably some pro subscribers who never/rarely buy physical models, so they should balance out.
Derf, if you have any pull or connection with Sky Castle, you should recommend this to them.
I remember when the biggest pro feature were folders
I want eyebrows for kitbashing. Tell them EYEBROWS please
used a mustache today. upside down. works best with an angry character look.
@@awaytoanywhere699 unibrow
I want a set of eyebrows as decals, most of the eyebrow models are much too dimensional. I'd also like it if we had decals for more a more natural hairline transition, i.e. "edges"/baby hairs.
Like...Do I WANT a free Kitbash...Well duh yeah. But I think it is extremely reasonable (From what I can see anyways) that it is behind the paywall. I would like to see more of a one time payment option. Even if it would be a bit on the expensive side.
My problem is that I use my phone when I forge
You mentioned the max 20 item kitbashing. is your account with the model you are making in this video is using more than 20?
Na, the 3-kobolds-in-a-trenchcoat is below the 20 item cap
Hi Derf! Do you know a platform or people or yourself perhaps who sells the service of making OC's for people when they provide their character concept and/or 2D art? I've fidled around with hero forge but I'm no good with it... For example I hate the faces and that huge chin and I'm not able to make it somewhat decent, I'm also working my but off and can't find the time to get good at it ... Anyway... Hope you can help me out or send me in the right direction ;)
I'm afraid I would not know where to direct you regarding HF commissions. It tends to be a pretty controversial subject in the community. I used to do them myself but these days I simply don't have the time to do them for any reasonable price, so I can't be of much help here, sorry
@@Derfholm ok, no problem! Thanks for the response.
Ngl, the kit bashing feature should be a one time purchase of maybe 35/40 usd instead of a subscription, considering you are making STL files that they can then sell later. Not to mention specific individuals are really going to use this feature in the first place.
(Please add crouching while aiming pose for free users at somepoint)
Despite its limitations, _yes_.
I don't like it, but it's absolutely fair enough. With luck it might come to free users eventually, when they get some other big new draw for pro, but even if it doesn't, they need to make money somehow. I would get pro, but it's too expensive and I don't use heroforge enough for it really to be worth it.
Sorry but if you're a person complaining about kitbashing behind a paywall then you are the problem... It's an insane tool and relatively user friendly compared to other options like... LEARNING BLENDER... so yeah. Now is it worth it to pay for kitbashing may 100% be another question. Like idk how many people are going to take advantage of it enough to actually make it worth the effective price.
Of course you made it TWO WEEKS AFTER i got pro for 3 months.
I already have heroforge pro but kitbashing made me renew my subscription
I view Kitbashing as worth the purchase (plus the other features pro has), but for anyone who doesn't want to bite the bullet, it's important to remember the time-old adage that limitation breeds innovation. It's because we didn't have kitbashing that we have techniques like double modeling and all of the glitches that produced a lot of cool effects. It's perfectly fine to not have all the techniques available to you. It just means you can learn new techniques and maybe invent some that everyone, KB or not, can use
Did you do the tutorials for the HeroForge channel, or did they get someone who sounds just like you?
I have been doing some of the recent ones for them, yes!
Yea bro sold out to them lol
@@ShugoAWay Bro now gets paid for his hobby.
Everyone’s dream.
crazy how i searched up 'is heroforge subscription worth it' found and watched the two year old video, thought to myself, well that sucks...i wish there was a more recent video, i click on your channel and lo and behold.
Hi Fred
hello
Ofc it is worth it you can do so much stuff with pro i stopped using hf simply cuz non pro forging even fun
Honestly, Pro is worth it for the credits if you have a 3D printer. The kitbashing is fun to play around with, but with the credits I can create (or buy the packs) and print and continue to "wow" my dnd players with the cool minis.