Steve.... Glad to see you are back!!! Cant wait to see what all you will show us. I am new at the solar power, but looking at your videos has helped me.... Thanks for coming back...... Ben
Good to hear from you again. Your solar info was very helpful. I had to watch it several times to get concepts. I'm running a 50 gal water heater on grid with 2 4500 W filaments. I recently installed a timer to save a little juice. I believe it saves as long as I don't leave it off for more then 4 hrs.
Thank you. I know some of this gets a bit technical, but I'm always here to answer questions. Being on-grid, a timer will definitely save a lot of money. You can set the timer to turn it off after you're sure everyone is done needing hot water for the day, then set it to turn on about 45 minutes before anyone needs it in the morning. It's a great idea, and for anyone else that might be reading, it does require a 240 volt timer which is more heavy-duty than the little plastic ones you buys for lamps. Thanks for your comment!
Ha! Steve this is your old buddy L.B. from N.M., Man i like your videos this great info. Thinking about the old days at your first setup In N.M. I am looking a building a system at my place, and i now your the best, keep up the good work!! Call me when you can. L.B.
Good morning Steve! 👍 If you have such calcareous water, then you should install one or more sacrificial anodes in the boiler, which consists mostly of zinc or a zinc alloy, we can use the water from our Austrian Alps to sing a song about the lime and hardness of the water! PS .: I know the video is 5 years old, but the water is still the same! 👍 Best regards from Austria!
NoSaltiesAnd RoosHere good morning my new brother! I have since moved to Hawai’i and this channel is pretty much done. But you are correct. I could have installed an additional sacrificial anode rod. If you wish to keep up with my current happenings and the things I’m now doing, you can find me here: th-cam.com/channels/Vn2ng2ythNsotzk4IT42NA.html
These videos make me want to do the Tim the tool man Taylor grunts :) I get a kick out of watching them to see if I can figure out anything you are talking about! Kind of like me watching Spanish Novellas trying to see if I can figure out what the show is abut LOL :)
The reason your larger elements were burning out so quickly was the material that the tubing was made from. They are nickel plated copper and the white coating looks like lime, which is a thermal insulator and this will make the element run hotter and burn out. The black element tubing is probably inconel which is made of nickel, chrome and iron and will resist the build up of lime and SHOULD last a lot longer. The fact that you chose a longer element and lower power is also working in your favor... less watts per square inch or centimeter won't have the water boiling on the surface of the element and depositing the lime. Years of changing water heater elements in areas with crappy water supplies in New Zealand... lots of lime and chlorinated water. It lifts the nickel off and leaves pitting of the copper tube if it doesn't get coated in lime.
these hot water elements must be alot more robust than i even imagined with your solar array going full steam ahead on sunny days your element would be on all the time if it werent for a thermostat, id be scratching my head thinking of new ways to use all that excess power in summer, not a bad problem to have ofcourse.
I never got around to making those videos. But I essentially compressed air into a 150 gal propane tank I bought used. There are all kinds of air powered tools like saws, drills, wrenches, car lifts and many other things powered by air.
I include a wiring diagram in the part 2 video that shows how the relays are wired before and after, unless you're talking about how the whole water heater is turnef on and off by the chatge controller. in that case the solid state relay is just simply insert it on either side of the circuit to turn the water heater off and on. Then they switching leads are run back to the charge controller for control
Great videos would you mind showing the wiring from the converter. To the water heater and explain how the water heater is grounded I just can't wrap my head around it
I just saw the part 2 video and with your reply below I think I have a better idea of the setup. Here's my understanding: 1. The AUX output of the charge controller is the point of control of the SSR switch. 2. The Water heating element is connected to an AC source (The red and black leads labelled 220-240V). It is the point of termination of these leads in the diagram that I was inquiring about. Or asked differently, what is the source of power of the water heating elements ? Thanks
+guliver1999 You understand how it works and that's a good thing. The power is supplied directly by my inverter. I use a MagnaSine 4.4kw 120/240VAC inverter.
Enjoying your videos about hot water. In one video you mentioned a 2500 watt inverter. I assume it was MSW since you mentioned resistive loads. In this video you mentioned 4000 watt inverter. What model is it?
Wes, I am elated you're enjoying my videos! I've enjoyed a few of yours as well. Especially the disappearing kid! LOL The 2500 watt inverter I use is a very cheao, stackable inverter I purchased on Ebay. You can find it here: www.ebay.com/itm/US-Stackable-2500W-Off-Grid-Power-Inverter-12V-24V-48V-DC-to-240V-OR-120V-AC-/271058480716?var=&hash=item3f1c582e4c:m:meVvl7JatzFkY-7-i2cCgRw The 4400watt inverter I use is a Magnasine inverter you can find here: www.ebay.com/itm/Magnum-4400W-48VDC-Pure-Sine-Inverter-Charger-MS-PAE-MS4448PAE-/162500360048?hash=item25d5c6b770:g:vAQAAOSw42JZCKfA The Magnasine can be found cheaper elsewhere. The new inverter that everyone here on the mountain is using is the PIP inverter. If you look up the play list on my channel about Duane's projects, you'll find videos about it there.
Please can anyone help!! The challenge I have is that I don't know which terminals from the Aux port (NO, C) will be connected to the positive & negative DC side of the SSR. I believe that the open/close signals coming from the controller have no polarity.
i ran the gamut on trying to make safe reliable hot water starting with coiled black pipe ,great on sunny days then i trying 24v and 48v dc elements ,my system is 48v all failed to work due to various problems like not being able to find a thermostat that would live at 48v dc so then i bought one 1000 watt ac element and a 30 amp dimmer switch all problems solved even used the factory wiring from my panel to the heater .I disconnected the top element and swapped the bottom element for the 100 watt using my dimmer switch ,i can control how much power the element receives, right now it's been running at 500 watts and i keep my water temp around 115 to 120 minimal impact on my 1500 watt Aims inverter and battery bank i do have a Forklift battery 48v plus 8 trojan t-105 (8) =48v giving me 1200 amp hr cap hope this helps
I am a bit confused here, and I need some help. First question, are you diverting directly from the inverter and not from the charge controller? Second question, why use AC heating elements instead of DC heating elements?
I can get tjis one Steve. 1. The power to the element is from the inverter but the relay is actived from the charge controller by a 12v port when the batteries hit a certain voltage. Good controllers come with this . Fm80,Midnight,etc. 2. Dc would be better but it is hard to find components to match. Temp sensors and the wiring would have to be suited for the wattage. AC is better for convenience. I am doing something similar but i prefer to heat as quick as possible. Short bursts of high wattage. Hope this helps.
Frank Z thank you for your explanation. I think I got it now. I still have a few questions related to this: What happens if the batteries are full and the water tank is, also, full? What happens to the excess energy produced? Can this excess energy cause a problem in the system? Suppose you go on a week long summer vacation. Since the house load demand is reduced, the batteries and the hot water tank should be full earlier in the day. Therefore, the excess energy occurs at the beginning of the day. How can the system cope in this case?
The charge controller will stop the panels from over charging. Once everything is full then it stops until it is needed again or the sun goes down and starts again the next day. The controller is very important in a solar system. Not to be cheaped out on . Hope this helps
Frank Z I learn something new every day: The charge controller will shutoff the excess energy production from the solar panels. Can it do the same with a wind turbine?
Hey Steve, hope you are doing well. I know this video is a blast from the past. Do you still recommend this type of diversion? I was wondering if a DC element in the lower part of the hot water heater would work. I was initially looking at a glycol hot water heater where the panel heated the water heater with a heat exchanger. That was pretty costly and since PV pricing has come down it seemed a better way to go was electricity with some control (external relays from charge controller and thermostat in the water heater). Sorry for so many words, I am just trying to be complete. Hope you are enjoying life on the islands. All the best!
There are people who successfully use DC to hear water. Part of the joy of DIY solar is the experimentation. Personally I use AC because the elements and thermostats are all off the shelf products. The only thing it needs is an inverter.
@@brentjohnson6654 Still looking for diversion right from the PV array voltage? I divert by looking at the PV voltage and when it goes over power point, the control diverts just enough to bring the voltage down, 5-1500W. No battery, CC or inverter resources are used. Arc interrupt allows standard mechanical thermostats to be used and heaters daisy chained. The perfect diversion tested over many years.
steve, could you please do a video on the wiring side of the relay for HW, as i know your pulling 12 volts from your charge controller dump load to the relay but, i noticed you had two relalys and two 12 v and two 240 v wiring? being an hvac guy i have a question shouldnt you need only one relay to power the HW, or is this where you continue to send power else where? a electrical schematic would be helpful like your other one,thanks for your experience and technical information
You are right - you only need one relay to turn the water heater on and off. In my case, I use the circuit to also control 120v circuits to two separate 120vac heatpumps. If I had only one relay, then only one heatpump would shut off. That's a good question AND a good catch! I had to wire the water heater a bit different as well to accommodate my set up, but the gist of it is the same. I have drawn a schematic for it as well, and TH-cam won't let me post a pic here. I'll post it on my google+ and if you can't see it there, then I can Email it to you.
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I would never ask a married man to come to fix a leak. I don't want a gun totting wife sneaking up on me. ha-ha. I always ask if married. Some men don't wear rings. I was a Machinist for 30 years. I didnt wear a ring due to my work. I never been good at asking for help. I have learned the hard ways to do things myself. haha
Could you not just use high-voltage DC direct from your panels, rather than going via an inverter? I would imagine a resistive element would work just as well with DC as with AC??
A resistive element would work just as well on DC or AC. Problems occur using the AC rated thermostat controls inside the water heater with DC. The arcing would burn them out very quickly. Also, once the water heater has heated the water, you still would need a place to put that unused electricity. So having all end-use items operate on AC allows load diversion to be easily daisy-chained and prioritized from most to least important - hot water, compressed air, then space heating or air conditioning as an example.
Wow I didn’t think I’d ever hear from y’all again! I’m doing well. Moved to hawaii because I got tired of winter snow. So now I’ve got 72 degree weather year round with chickens, goats, and all kinds of crazy fruit trees. If y’all can get to the airport, I’ve got a couple houses I can put you up in. How is everyone back home?
Awesome videos. This is exactly what I was looking for... Thanks! Im assuming the water heater works because it bypasses the thermostat when the temperature is right. This would probably be harder to do with something without a thermostat like that, correct? Or for instance, say your water is hot and your air compressor is full, can you direct it to something else after the compressor?
I know im randomly asking but does anybody know a method to log back into an instagram account? I somehow lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
@Gordon Achilles thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I would imagine you could find a helpful fella to do it for you. You're a nice enough lady you should have no problem at all. I was at the grocery store the other day, and a woman I never met asked if I could fix a leaky faucet at her house. I went by, fixed it and went home. I wouldn't suggest doing that, but people are more helpful than you might think.
Did you ever consider using the heat that the relay generates to pre-heat the water going into the water heater? Mount it to a heatsink block that the water flows through?
Are there any disadvantages to using a large tank such as a 50 gallon?...I'd like to have plenty of hot water available...daytime...How many watts solar would I need...I don't expect I would actually use all 50 gallon on a regular basis but, would just like to have that available....
+Tooomps Challenge I use a 50 gallon water heater. I removed the 4500 watt elements and replaced with 2000w elements. Running as a load diversion, you would need a minimum of 2500w of panels. Running direct, you would need more like 4000w of panels to be successful. Disadvantages of this setup: 1. Takes 1.25 hours for water to get to full temp. 2. Once you've used up your hot water at night, there is simply no more to be had (any size tank). Those really aren't bad disadvantages. In the summer we have plenty of hot water for ourselves and 3 house guests. In the winter time, there are not enough sun hours to heat water effectively, so we route the water through the woodstove to heat it that way.
thanks for this great video Offgrid Steve. Does this method increase the cycling of your batteries? I have seen quite a lot of discussion about this issue here ( th-cam.com/video/A9Meq8wLbME/w-d-xo.html ) and I assume your method will have the same effect. Do you have any views on how to resolve this?
I never had “microcycling” as an issue because I used lead acid batteries at the time of this video. As soon as the voltage got down to residual voltage value, I would have the load switched off. Lithium batteries are a different critter because the voltage holds constant until nearly discharged. But they do have residual charge value similar to lead acid batteries but at different values. However, here in Hawaii, I have completely avoided the issue by switching to a heat pump water heater. It only uses 380 watts. I have a video of that on my other channel.
Nice to see you posting again. I was hoping you guys are well but hadn’t seen anything in awhile-many blessings! Your old NP, Pat B
Steve.... Glad to see you are back!!! Cant wait to see what all you will show us. I am new at the solar power, but looking at your videos has helped me.... Thanks for coming back......
Ben
Thanks Ben. I expect to do a video every month, but I'm shooting for weekly. It's nice to be able to do videos again too.
Good to hear from you again. Your solar info was very helpful. I had to watch it several times to get concepts.
I'm running a 50 gal water heater on grid with 2 4500 W filaments. I recently installed a timer to save a little juice. I believe it saves as long as I don't leave it off for more then 4 hrs.
Thank you. I know some of this gets a bit technical, but I'm always here to answer questions. Being on-grid, a timer will definitely save a lot of money. You can set the timer to turn it off after you're sure everyone is done needing hot water for the day, then set it to turn on about 45 minutes before anyone needs it in the morning. It's a great idea, and for anyone else that might be reading, it does require a 240 volt timer which is more heavy-duty than the little plastic ones you buys for lamps.
Thanks for your comment!
Ha! Steve this is your old buddy L.B. from N.M., Man i like your videos this great info. Thinking about the old days at your first setup In N.M. I am looking a building a system at my place, and i now your the best, keep up the good work!! Call me when you can. L.B.
I know a couple fellas with initials of L.B. from NM. Shoot me an Email at godlymann57@gmail.com so we can catch up!
Good morning Steve! 👍
If you have such calcareous water, then you should install one or more sacrificial anodes in the boiler, which consists mostly of zinc or a zinc alloy, we can use the water from our Austrian Alps to sing a song about the lime and hardness of the water!
PS .: I know the video is 5 years old, but the water is still the same! 👍
Best regards from Austria!
NoSaltiesAnd RoosHere good morning my new brother! I have since moved to Hawai’i and this channel is pretty much done. But you are correct. I could have installed an additional sacrificial anode rod. If you wish to keep up with my current happenings and the things I’m now doing, you can find me here: th-cam.com/channels/Vn2ng2ythNsotzk4IT42NA.html
These videos make me want to do the Tim the tool man Taylor grunts :) I get a kick out of watching them to see if I can figure out anything you are talking about! Kind of like me watching Spanish Novellas trying to see if I can figure out what the show is abut LOL :)
Dot, you have the best access to me of anyone on my channel. You are a hoot! LOL
The reason your larger elements were burning out so quickly was the material that the tubing was made from. They are nickel plated copper and the white coating looks like lime, which is a thermal insulator and this will make the element run hotter and burn out. The black element tubing is probably inconel which is made of nickel, chrome and iron and will resist the build up of lime and SHOULD last a lot longer. The fact that you chose a longer element and lower power is also working in your favor... less watts per square inch or centimeter won't have the water boiling on the surface of the element and depositing the lime. Years of changing water heater elements in areas with crappy water supplies in New Zealand... lots of lime and chlorinated water. It lifts the nickel off and leaves pitting of the copper tube if it doesn't get coated in lime.
these hot water elements must be alot more robust than i even imagined
with your solar array going full steam ahead on sunny days your element would be on all the time if it werent for a thermostat,
id be scratching my head thinking of new ways to use all that excess power in summer, not a bad problem to have ofcourse.
Jesus. It took me forever to refined your channel. Are y’all ok. We’re y’all near or in the fire area??
Sorry about all the Qs. I just found this video, lol. Thank you.
It has been awhile since I have seen one of your videos. I hope you all are doing well. Take care.
Another great video. I'm very interested in your using compressed air to store energy but can't find any videos!
I never got around to making those videos. But I essentially compressed air into a 150 gal propane tank I bought used. There are all kinds of air powered tools like saws, drills, wrenches, car lifts and many other things powered by air.
@@OffGridLivingSteve thank you.
So it has been 7 years , have you got it right yet., I just use DC element and when the batteries go to float the pv power goes to the DC elements
Great vids man
Thank you for the video. Can you please show how the Solid state relay is wired to the upper and lower thermostats.
I include a wiring diagram in the part 2 video that shows how the relays are wired before and after, unless you're talking about how the whole water heater is turnef on and off by the chatge controller. in that case the solid state relay is just simply insert it on either side of the circuit to turn the water heater off and on. Then they switching leads are run back to the charge controller for control
Great videos would you mind showing the wiring from the converter. To the water heater and explain how the water heater is grounded I just can't wrap my head around it
Have you watched the part 2 video?
I just saw the part 2 video and with your reply below I think I have a better idea of the setup. Here's my understanding:
1. The AUX output of the charge controller is the point of control of the SSR switch.
2. The Water heating element is connected to an AC source (The red and black leads labelled 220-240V). It is the point of termination of these leads in the diagram that I was inquiring about. Or asked differently, what is the source of power of the water heating elements ?
Thanks
+guliver1999 You understand how it works and that's a good thing. The power is supplied directly by my inverter. I use a MagnaSine 4.4kw 120/240VAC inverter.
+Steve Robertson (Off-Grid Living)
Thanks so much for the clarifications!
Enjoying your videos about hot water. In one video you mentioned a 2500 watt inverter. I assume it was MSW since you mentioned resistive loads. In this video you mentioned 4000 watt inverter. What model is it?
Wes, I am elated you're enjoying my videos! I've enjoyed a few of yours as well. Especially the disappearing kid! LOL
The 2500 watt inverter I use is a very cheao, stackable inverter I purchased on Ebay. You can find it here: www.ebay.com/itm/US-Stackable-2500W-Off-Grid-Power-Inverter-12V-24V-48V-DC-to-240V-OR-120V-AC-/271058480716?var=&hash=item3f1c582e4c:m:meVvl7JatzFkY-7-i2cCgRw
The 4400watt inverter I use is a Magnasine inverter you can find here: www.ebay.com/itm/Magnum-4400W-48VDC-Pure-Sine-Inverter-Charger-MS-PAE-MS4448PAE-/162500360048?hash=item25d5c6b770:g:vAQAAOSw42JZCKfA
The Magnasine can be found cheaper elsewhere. The new inverter that everyone here on the mountain is using is the PIP inverter. If you look up the play list on my channel about Duane's projects, you'll find videos about it there.
Do you have any experience with the morning star's PWM output? It would seem to be a shoe in for your water heating!
I don't have experience with Morning Star products.
What about using one of the new hybrid hot water heaters?
Please can anyone help!!
The challenge I have is that I don't know which terminals from the Aux port (NO, C) will be connected to the positive & negative DC side of the SSR.
I believe that the open/close signals coming from the controller have no polarity.
excelent video ......how to do it ...
Dropping the background music would be good
i ran the gamut on trying to make safe reliable hot water starting with coiled black pipe ,great on sunny days then i trying 24v and 48v dc elements ,my system is 48v all failed to work due to various problems like not being able to find a thermostat that would live at 48v dc so then i bought one 1000 watt ac element and a 30 amp dimmer switch all problems solved even used the factory wiring from my panel to the heater .I disconnected the top element and swapped the bottom element for the 100 watt using my dimmer switch ,i can control how much power the element receives, right now it's been running at 500 watts and i keep my water temp around 115 to 120 minimal impact on my 1500 watt Aims inverter and battery bank i do have a Forklift battery 48v plus 8 trojan t-105 (8) =48v giving me 1200 amp hr cap hope this helps
That's a good way to do it as well. Thanks for the idea!
I am a bit confused here, and I need some help.
First question, are you diverting directly from the inverter and not from the charge controller?
Second question, why use AC heating elements instead of DC heating elements?
I can get tjis one Steve. 1. The power to the element is from the inverter but the relay is actived from the charge controller by a 12v port when the batteries hit a certain voltage. Good controllers come with this . Fm80,Midnight,etc.
2. Dc would be better but it is hard to find components to match. Temp sensors and the wiring would have to be suited for the wattage. AC is better for convenience. I am doing something similar but i prefer to heat as quick as possible. Short bursts of high wattage. Hope this helps.
Frank Z thank you for your explanation.
I think I got it now.
I still have a few questions related to this:
What happens if the batteries are full and the water tank is, also, full?
What happens to the excess energy produced?
Can this excess energy cause a problem in the system?
Suppose you go on a week long summer vacation.
Since the house load demand is reduced, the batteries and the hot water tank should be full earlier in the day. Therefore, the excess energy occurs at the beginning of the day. How can the system cope in this case?
The charge controller will stop the panels from over charging. Once everything is full then it stops until it is needed again or the sun goes down and starts again the next day. The controller is very important in a solar system. Not to be cheaped out on . Hope this helps
Frank Z I learn something new every day: The charge controller will shutoff the excess energy production from the solar panels.
Can it do the same with a wind turbine?
It should.
Hey Steve, hope you are doing well. I know this video is a blast from the past. Do you still recommend this type of diversion? I was wondering if a DC element in the lower part of the hot water heater would work. I was initially looking at a glycol hot water heater where the panel heated the water heater with a heat exchanger. That was pretty costly and since PV pricing has come down it seemed a better way to go was electricity with some control (external relays from charge controller and thermostat in the water heater). Sorry for so many words, I am just trying to be complete. Hope you are enjoying life on the islands. All the best!
There are people who successfully use DC to hear water. Part of the joy of DIY solar is the experimentation. Personally I use AC because the elements and thermostats are all off the shelf products. The only thing it needs is an inverter.
@@OffGridLivingSteve thanks for the comment. You are correct in there being many options. Hope all is well on the islands for you.
@@brentjohnson6654 Still looking for diversion right from the PV array voltage? I divert by looking at the PV voltage and when it goes over power point, the control diverts just enough to bring the voltage down, 5-1500W. No battery, CC or inverter resources are used. Arc interrupt allows standard mechanical thermostats to be used and heaters daisy chained. The perfect diversion tested over many years.
steve, could you please do a video on the wiring side of the relay for HW, as i know your pulling 12 volts from your charge controller dump load to the relay but, i noticed you had two relalys and two 12 v and two 240 v wiring? being an hvac guy i have a question shouldnt you need only one relay to power the HW, or is this where you continue to send power else where? a electrical schematic would be helpful like your other one,thanks for your experience and technical information
You are right - you only need one relay to turn the water heater on and off. In my case, I use the circuit to also control 120v circuits to two separate 120vac heatpumps. If I had only one relay, then only one heatpump would shut off. That's a good question AND a good catch! I had to wire the water heater a bit different as well to accommodate my set up, but the gist of it is the same. I have drawn a schematic for it as well, and TH-cam won't let me post a pic here. I'll post it on my google+ and if you can't see it there, then I can Email it to you.
Steve Robertson She said i have soo many symtoms and every time tests done nothing shows up....even with the arthritis.... nothing shows up....but the symtoms are strong She said i have soo many symtoms and every time tests done nothing shows up....even with the arthritis.... nothing shows up....but the symtoms are strong I went to TCU and tgey want me to yavr 8,000 on my shares snd sign mt life insurance over to tyrm 5o pay out fidelity at 11.1% interest. Ummmm... i tried. Ha haaaaa, what kids u talkin bout? Aren't we in this country the pists when it comes to professionalism and procedures!? Whats wrong with us?! ! Now tomorrow is such not a good day for me to move....smt Aren't we in this country the pists when it comes to professionalism and procedures!? Whats wrong with us?! ! Now tomorrow is such not a good day for me to move....smt
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You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother's womb.
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You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother's womb.
Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol Now listen to this joke...in the haste of rushing out....well first of all thank God i laid out all our clothes last night including vinces socks. But idk what happen lol, lol, as km looking at his foot he has on one foot of bobby sock and the other the beige socks that he should have on. Lol it look so wicked...lol
I would never ask a married man to come to fix a leak. I don't want a gun totting wife sneaking up on me. ha-ha. I always ask if married. Some men don't wear rings. I was a Machinist for 30 years. I didnt wear a ring due to my work. I never been good at asking for help. I have learned the hard ways to do things myself. haha
Well guess what...you've got lots of studying to do!
Could you not just use high-voltage DC direct from your panels, rather than going via an inverter? I would imagine a resistive element would work just as well with DC as with AC??
A resistive element would work just as well on DC or AC. Problems occur using the AC rated thermostat controls inside the water heater with DC. The arcing would burn them out very quickly. Also, once the water heater has heated the water, you still would need a place to put that unused electricity. So having all end-use items operate on AC allows load diversion to be easily daisy-chained and prioritized from most to least important - hot water, compressed air, then space heating or air conditioning as an example.
Hey Steve what's up long time no see
Wow I didn’t think I’d ever hear from y’all again! I’m doing well. Moved to hawaii because I got tired of winter snow. So now I’ve got 72 degree weather year round with chickens, goats, and all kinds of crazy fruit trees. If y’all can get to the airport, I’ve got a couple houses I can put you up in. How is everyone back home?
Awesome videos. This is exactly what I was looking for... Thanks! Im assuming the water heater works because it bypasses the thermostat when the temperature is right. This would probably be harder to do with something without a thermostat like that, correct? Or for instance, say your water is hot and your air compressor is full, can you direct it to something else after the compressor?
I know im randomly asking but does anybody know a method to log back into an instagram account?
I somehow lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can give me.
@Cyrus Samir Instablaster =)
@Gordon Achilles thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Gordon Achilles it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thank you so much you really help me out !
@Cyrus Samir Glad I could help =)
ha-ha. now I have to know how to work on a water heater. my my
I would imagine you could find a helpful fella to do it for you. You're a nice enough lady you should have no problem at all. I was at the grocery store the other day, and a woman I never met asked if I could fix a leaky faucet at her house. I went by, fixed it and went home. I wouldn't suggest doing that, but people are more helpful than you might think.
Did you ever consider using the heat that the relay generates to pre-heat the water going into the water heater? Mount it to a heatsink block that the water flows through?
Actually I’ve moved way beyond this project. I’m all about hybrid water heaters now.
@@OffGridLivingSteve I can’t seem to find any of those videos on this channel
Are there any disadvantages to using a large tank such as a 50 gallon?...I'd like to have plenty of hot water available...daytime...How many watts solar would I need...I don't expect I would actually use all 50 gallon on a regular basis but, would just like to have that available....
+Tooomps Challenge I use a 50 gallon water heater. I removed the 4500 watt elements and replaced with 2000w elements. Running as a load diversion, you would need a minimum of 2500w of panels. Running direct, you would need more like 4000w of panels to be successful.
Disadvantages of this setup:
1. Takes 1.25 hours for water to get to full temp.
2. Once you've used up your hot water at night, there is simply no more to be had (any size tank).
Those really aren't bad disadvantages. In the summer we have plenty of hot water for ourselves and 3 house guests. In the winter time, there are not enough sun hours to heat water effectively, so we route the water through the woodstove to heat it that way.
My latest video.
thanks for this great video Offgrid Steve. Does this method increase the cycling of your batteries? I have seen quite a lot of discussion about this issue here ( th-cam.com/video/A9Meq8wLbME/w-d-xo.html ) and I assume your method will have the same effect. Do you have any views on how to resolve this?
I never had “microcycling” as an issue because I used lead acid batteries at the time of this video. As soon as the voltage got down to residual voltage value, I would have the load switched off. Lithium batteries are a different critter because the voltage holds constant until nearly discharged. But they do have residual charge value similar to lead acid batteries but at different values. However, here in Hawaii, I have completely avoided the issue by switching to a heat pump water heater. It only uses 380 watts. I have a video of that on my other channel.
I see this.
can I just boil water. haha
Funny! It's not that hard!