He said something years ago I didn’t like. In this video, he’s making it clear he is a 2a guy. But so many in the comments show such self-righteousness. No forgiveness. No grace. No benefit of the doubt. Zero loyalty. So it goes with the self-righteous, they will eat their own at the drop of a hat. Today they love you and tomorrow they are ready to light torches and grab pitchforks. I will error on the side of grace. I will have conversations with people you may not like. I’ll ask them questions. I’ll love them even though you demand I hate them.
I don't hate him, I hate what he said years ago, I truly hope he has seen the error of his ways as we all should when we make errors. 2A is a non negotiable subject for me, I believe all gun laws are infringements, anyone should own anything they want, and I'm sticking to that.
Spot on. The comment section is out of control. Very insane, Tim appeared on The Shawn Ryan show getting tons of positive comments and it was a great interview. But John has him on and the comments are just purely negative. Lastly, the hate on John is wild to me. The interview was entertaining in typical John fashion and he directly asked him about the elephant in the room from “us”.
Ball busting brigade in full force. God bless you, brother. Matthew 6:14-15 KJV 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Tim came off as very egotistical and showed a lack of practicality and understanding yet John remained calm and thoughtful when they discussed aging and what makes a strong man. John is nothing but genuine in every way. This does not go unnoticed John, way to go 🇺🇸
Unless you know a person, negativity serves no purpose other than speak about you and your character. Its best to be critical of peers you work alongside. Otherwise, you’re just a hater and/or troll. Tim and John are the Men to look to. Not knockdown.
Thank you for having him on to clarify his position and lack of knowledge on the constitution and our rights. He will be one of the first who will enjoy kicking in doors of Americans and taking their rights by force when he is called to do it.
@@pilgrimwings1295if rights come from God then illegals have rights too. If it's an issue (which it is) then they shouldn't have allowed them to come in and stay illegally.
@@pilgrimwings1295Rights are not privileges, and they’re intrinsic. Illegal aliens still have their god given rights, they just don’t have the right to be here. Deport, no charges for just possessing a firearm.
Notice, when John asked Tim “the question”, he talked about himself, but never asked for forgiveness. He tried to walk it back and absolve himself. Then he explained he doesn’t understand the second amendment. I’d like to extend him grace, but he doesn’t want it.
I really appreciate John for dissecting and, ultimately, correcting Tim's breakdown of these 4 Fs: Faith, Family, Fitness, and Finances. Tim believes Fitness is #1 too much and gets arrogant about it with the "sovereign" complex. John corrects him that Faith is actually #1. Although not ideal, you can be fat but still contribute to the fight with your intelligence or other skills. You can be a psychological warrior. Wisdom, the Bible says, is supreme and in all thy getting, get understanding. John, once again, maintains the truth that Jesus is our cornerstone. We are warriors because of God. We can execute everything else because of God. Without God, we are nothing. Tim needs to remember that. God is sovereign. Not us. We are managers of these things. Anyway, this is my first listen to getting to know Tim Kennedy. In general, I admire and respect him as a person and all he's become and grown from. Kudos. I don't like USCCA so I'm tired of seeing him in those ads lol. (I went with CCW Safe). I don't think John is simping. He's just showing love. Love you John. Can't wait to take one of your classes. Come to Michigan! (Detroiter here)
@@kevinsmith9513I believe he is Christian. But in his book he is very vague as well as not to exclude anyone from being a “warrior” He calls on all religions to unite in his cause of becoming warriors. I just don’t know if that’s wise the whole dark/light fellowshipping.
I couldn’t agree more. We love you John! Thank you for teaching us and allowing the lord to use you for his good will and pleasure. Please come to Michigan.
As a 20 year old with an actual understanding of the Constitution.... Tims flagrant ignorance (or disregard) of the Constitution truly concerns and infuriates me. "I think gun control is a massive solution. I don't think a 19 year old should be able to buy or have access to an AR-15. I don't even think he should be able to buy a pistol, and fortunately he can't"- Tim Kennedy I strive to be a responsible American citizen. And I strive to be an upstanding Christian. I own lots of firearms, and I carry everyday. I’ll be the first to admit I am no “operator” with combat experience, or lawyer. But I love my country, my Constitution, and I know my rights, and have educated myself about the law, and am perfectly competent with my weapons. And he thinks that the Constitution doesn't apply to me?! I can respect him and his service and also call him out for his flagrant disregard/ignorance of the Constitution and basic precepts of liberty.
Ignorance on the constitution, ignorance on Christianity, arrogance in himself. You can tell by his words, he doesn't believe in the same god as alot of us do, it's all show for him. I still appreciate his accomplishments and that he's had success in his life
Once again, he pulls the "it was taken out of context" card, when the entire interview is on youtube and you can watch where he says "i think gun control is a massive solution, i don't think a 19 year old kid should be able to have an AR-15." If you claim to be pro 2A, maybe stick up for it when the time comes and don't appeal to lance and his fanbase because you know they have different views.
Jack N. Rakove said it best. ""Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed, well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was in an effective shape to fight."" "Rakove won the 1997 Pulitzer Prize for History and the 1998 Cox Book Prize for Original Meanings: Politics and Ideas in the Making of the Constitution (1996) which questioned whether originalism is a comprehensive and exhaustive means of interpreting the Constitution" Also this guy is not 2A. Any that limits 19 yr old "kids" from arms is not 2A. Now if you want to change the age of adult to 20 or 21 that's different but if you're an Adult you get the good and the bad when it comes to rights period... That being said I'm not 2A I don't want convicted violent offenders to have 2A. Everyone else you're good.
That would be awesome if he had him on and scrutinized Eye Patches ideas... I think John would do good... it's nice to hear from people who don't agree sometimes and not always just hear what you agree with... especially when someone as smart as John would get the chance to debate someone as cringe as Cringeshaw
@@pewpewbbqs Crenshaw is a snake; I remember when reporter asked him if there should be a law where if you’re in congress, or on one of those committees with access to information… that fake POS scoffed at the idea, when he reacted like that, I for sure could see what kind of officer he was in the Navy.
I’m willing to give Tim a chance I just do not believe he has fully grown up yet. Hopefully he gets there one day. I’m still glad John had him here and challenged him on some issues. We still have to have grace for people guys doesn’t mean you don’t keep an eye on them for a while. Thanks John.
@HeyYaHo-co3dn not gonna lie, I didn't watch that far lol but Ive NEVER seen Tim mention Christ or religion. Getting Crenshaw "blend in to fit in" vibes
@@josephmann9624But he has advocated for gun control more than once in the past. I’m ready and open to forgive and accept he’s changed but it’s gonna take more than him saying it one time. There needs to be continued support from him and there never needs to be anything pro gun control or anti 2A coming out of his mouth ever again.
It's about a tie for me. I've always been a fan of John, ever since James Yeager had him on his channel, before he built the WPS brand, but I'm having to pause now, looking at the people he calls his friends.
@@EasyMac308 Just because he is having conversations with people doesn't mean he endorses everything they have ever said. I don't like Tim Kennedy, I do like John Lovell.
@@Isaac556x45 I love John, too, and I'm rooting for his success. It just makes me cautious when I see someone with celebrity status start giving a platform to people who should not have a platform.
Timmy went from “every American should be able to defend themselves without infringement” to “gun control isn’t such a bad thing, we should increase it.”
I'll give him integrity points for not apologizing for something he clearly still believes. At least there is that. This isn't about hating Tim, this is about Tim has made it clear that free men cannot trust him. Full stop.
So I guess make a mistake and you're f***ed for life I guess. No chance of redemption. Guess everyone's f****ed then cause ain't no one clean lol. The skittle hairs would be proud.
Thank you John for trying to correct his biblical understanding of faith v fitness. David didn't best Goliath because he was built like a Greek god. He beat him because he had unwavering FAITH that he was fighting in the name of the ONE TRUE GOD. Hopefully, one day that truth will be revealed to him. Once again, John, thank you for lovingly trying to correct him in that, because it will continue to hinder his walk.
Every religion has faith they are fighting for the one true god. Each religion also has millions who claim the truth was revealed to them. He didn't correct him he just stated his beliefs.
@joelrivardguitar sure. But they were talking about the Bible and Christians as believers in Christ. That's why I worded my comment they way I did. John was gently trying to correct a brother and I think he did it well, so I wanted to show appreciation to him for his honorable example of Christian mentorship.
@@WyoRaider Right but there was nothing to correct. John just offered his opinion. Nothing is hindering his walk. Hopefully the truth will be revealed to him?
@joelrivardguitar What's "hindering his walk" is that he believes that David beat Goliath because he was strong. Actually, David beat Goliath because his faith was strong. Sampson wasn't strong because he was in the gym all day. Sampson was strong because the Lord gave him strength, and he lost it when he was deceived by Delilah and was prideful. The point I was trying to make, and that John was trying to make, is that, as Christians, our strength comes from our faith in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit first. It doesn't come from time spent in the gym, a positive mindset, or any other thing we do. Those all are secondary to faith. This guy believes that if he just stays fit, he can stave off all the ills of this world, and that's just not true. It's not true physically, and it's not true spiritually. We are saved thru faith, by grace, in Jesus. Believing that we can do something physically or in our own will to save ourselves is foolish and hinders our walk with Him. Hopefully that helps.
Tim's comments and training advice at a LEO conference is even more frightening and anti constitutional. Signs of the times. Them vs us. Class separation at it's finest
Tim. I worked hard all my life. Supported my family. In my youth I venture I could do anything, physically, you could do. I too muscled through the pain. Now, I'm paying for it. I no longer can "run, jump and lift heavy things". I feel every injury I've earned through my youth. Therefore, I'm not the fit, tough young man I was. I've gained some weight because I can no longer exercise with the intensity I once did. I congratulate you on your accomplishments in life. God, indeed, has blessed you. I admire that you can still serve. But, as you know, we all have been given gifts from God. Not everyone is blessed to be the calibre warrior you are. So, I said all that to say this... lighten up a little bit on us.
Weight has far less to do with exercise than diet. Losing fat and maintaining a healthy weight requires disciplined eating. A lessened ability for physical movement is a poor excuse. Believe me, I speak from personal experience.
@@mattkosakowski7582 You are probably not my age either with the extra years of wear and tear. Just sayin'. If it worked for you, that's awesome. I'm happy for you. But, we all aren't the same. What may work for me might not you you and vice versa. We ALL have our limits to what is possible.
@@garyworley5806 Sorry if that came off harsh. I’m 55 with a shoulder that dislocated several times (first on the o-course in 1990), two back surgeries and now nerve damage that makes my right leg very wobbly. In terms of exercise I just do what I can do. For eating, I avoid any simple carbs, go high protein, low Sat fat. And most of all, just don’t eat that much. As my metabolism slows down, I try to stay below 1,800 cal/day. I’m not a martyr so I will “cheat” on holidays. It is very difficult to offset a 500 cal donut at breakfast - just that is an hour of hard running. The main benefit of exercise is not direct weight loss but many other physical factors like cardio fitness, muscle mass/strength, and flexibility. I get it; food is a comfort and fills a void. I learned that most of us of a certain age just eat to damn much. Lack of ability to do activity has nothing to do with it.
If you guys like Tim's quotes on the 2A then you'll love his more recent venture. As a brand ambassador, along with the former Top Cop of Chicago (bastion of 2A rights that place is) , for the company DoubleCheck. What is DoubleCheck? Well, in a nutshell, Tim and his buddies feel A.I. should be utilized to perform background checks on us commoners to determine if our social credit score is in the range to even purchase a firearm. Thanks, Tim!
I respect Jon, ill watch this and see of Kennedy actually makes a point. However, no one forgets when he went pro gun control and he endorses USCCA, who has shown they don't support members.
Mr Lovell I can't tell you how much I appreciate your podcast. I'm a 54-year-old veteran from the first Gulf War. I Grew up Without my parent's my grandmother basically raised me from I was 10 till I was 18 when I did join the the Army, 13 Bravo during the first Gulf War again and I see some of the podcast that you put on I just watched the one with you and Tim Kennedy and I feel so inadequate when it comes to you guys versus what I did you know I look at all of the role models that young people have today that teaches young men how to be real men and warriors I really wish that I had these type of role models to teach me when I was young sometimes it's so hard to give myself credit for the little that I did in the first Gulf War compared to what you guys did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or sometimes it hurts so bad because I didn't do more. So I guess my question is how do you get past that? You guys fought off and on for 20 years my War took 100 hours I'm sorry just have a hard time reconciling
This is one of the things I’ve wondered a lot about. If you’re OK with prison, you’re clearly OK with taking away peoples rights. What about having those rights removed for a time after prison to prove you have changed. I do believe in some gun laws. For instance I don’t think a 12 year old should be able to go buy a gun. I do, however believe that a parent should be able to buy a gun for their child of whichever age the parent sees appropriate.
@@JC-cv3upit’s a good question but the studies show that most of the time violent offenders will be arrested again for violent crime after their release. It would have to be a case by case thing if that was ever implemented in my opinion.
Whew. The comment section is holding nothing back. I am glad that he did waffle once or twice during this interview, hopefully, to show John why we dislike TK. I did watch the interview because I love you John, but I totally hope you have had your fill. Perhaps he mispoke (for at least a fourth time that I have seen) or maybe, just maybe he isnt as much of a Christ-follower / Pro 2A dude he says he is. Has he done some amazing things, no doubt, and I will never dismiss that with him, but pro Constitution, he is not. He wants all the freedoms, but we lay people, the peons, nope, not for us.
Bummer that you brought this clout chasing, pro gun control, vet bro on and gave him a platform. I'm out, TK is a snake and all you influencers in the community keep letting him around.
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 that's cute. Nobody said to arrest him. He's shown his true colors enough that people don't care to hear more. Honestly, the worst thing you can do to TK is let him speak.
Has he rescinded his previous statements on 18 year olds not being able to own guns and supporting gun control as a massive solution? No? Then why are we giving him respect?
@@jameyhunt438 no he didn’t. He gave a half hearted yes and then went to explain how he believes the gun laws we have are good at stopping criminals from getting guns so we shouldn’t remove them.
All gunslingers are feds its why we know how dangerous our government really is behind closed doors,we work or worked for the devil as soldiers and contractors in the GWOT,listen to our warnings we've seen the wizard behind the curtain and they are dangerous
Tim Kennedy the kinda guy that pesters you to make him a sawed off shotgun, then shoots your dog and children. I bet he thinks he’s a sheepdog, homie doesn’t he is a lapdog of the Elite.
Not a fan of Tim Kennedy at all, especially after he lied and tried to downplay his past comments when he responded to the backlash on his own channel. I hope you read these comments and address it in your next video, and it's a shame everyone's being a coward to call him on it to his face.
Note: “Shall not be infringed”. There’s nothing in there about law-abiding citizens. If so, then who is to judge what is “law-abiding”? The government? Slippery slope…
@@danielpohl29 I dont think he did. He was thrown a softball on John buying his 15 year old an ar, but ignoring the actual question that he said that 19 year old shouldnt. Apples and oranges
It takes a long time to break liberal habits. And the fact it happened when fascist liberal policies are being exposed for how bad they are is concerning. He is chasing popularity until he proves after a decade he is consistent.
Starting Strength and the carnivore lifestyle are the roots of my health and fitness! Love this conversation and thank you both for your past and current service.
"Well regulated militia means guns laws. There are some good gun laws on the books and any form of regulation or laws in my mind is gun control." And he goes on to say that felons, people using drugs, and illegal immigrants are the justification of the gun control laws because they shouldn't have guns. I appreciate that this seems to be more pro-2A than he was previously, but who decides who is a felon? Who is to say what drugs constitute a justification for taking someone's guns away? Many people are on medication, and we know many types of prescriptions are far more dangerous and addictive than pot or shrooms or something like that. And what about alcohol? To be fair he seems to have changed his tune mostly, but the "law abiding citizen" mentality still underpins his thoughts and only requires anti-2A politicians to change the law.
Did you or any giving the thumbs up listen to him in this video? I think he made his support for the 2A pretty clear. Or do you guys think infighting is the 2A community’s strength?
I had no idea an open conversation was simping. This is what kills me about you boomers (or boomer mentality). We get new 2A members every day and not all of them are aware of the things that TK has said in the past. The comment section sure as fuck isn’t going to persuade them, so let them listen for themselves and make up their own minds. And if you’re not a boomer you certainly comment like one. I love the 2A but the gatekeeping is ridiculous.
His point was John should have taken tim to task...this was a pleasure section and definitely simp territory...FYI everyone born in the US is automatically a member of the 2a community like it or not..I give my own friends and family a harder time if they start in with anti 2a bs then tim just got...gen x 👍
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 I don't get your take at all, holding someone accountable for things that they said they support is gatekeeping? Calling out red flag laws and age restrictions is being a boomer? You can like tim if you want but if you're at all intellectually honest then you should understand why others don't without slinging insults.
I just want to say that I appreciate you being so very clear on where you stand. Your unwavering commentary was extremely refreshing. I must say that since the day I was saved, I tend to lean toward certain individuals and content, I don’t run from opposition but I am cautious to what I am consuming. I liked your channel from the beginning but this is the first I’ve heard of your own acceptance of Jesus Christ. I support you fully, Brother!
I will admit that I didn't know much about Tim apart from his now infamous 2A statements. I have a better understanding of him now. He seems to have a low self esteem and overcompensates by doing whatever he can to gain approval of whomever he thinks will help that. I don't hate him for it, more pity than anything. It's a weakness that he is constantly feeding.
He has an ai red flag comppany. Hes not some shy dude that doesnt know how to express himself. He just cant effectivly lie and deflect. He has these freudian slip ups when hes comfortable around his fellow feds.
But John didn't attempt to correct his thinking. Owning a firearm is a inalienable/God-Given Right. The 2nd Amendment is supposed to keep Gov in check from infringing that.
First, partnering with DD and now Tim Kennedy (who is NOT Pro-2A). I love you John, but I'm starting to get slightly concerned. And this is coming from someone who's always supported The WPS (including my wife and buying gear and apparel), and my wife getting me your book for a Christmas present.
TK is legit anti 2A but I think you oughta do some reading on Daniel Defense. CEO put out a statement on his comments in congress, about the whole "We work with our regulators", as EVERY gun company is forced to, and oh yeah, he was kinda in the lion's den too, in the biggest government center in the whole US, so maybe not going full revolution on the congressional floor was a good call.
T.REX Arms' video on DD managed to soften my view on them a fair bit. I don't know how we can accept TK without straightforward repentance from him, though.
Im going to try and sit thru this but all my previous exposures to him have revealed him to be similarly minded with the BRCC guys, “if you weren’t SF you aren’t worthy of owning a gun”. And adult men dont wear their hats backward to be cool.
Yep. American bro-vet culture almost always results in a caste-system mindset. “We served, so we deserve more rights than you.” No, you fell for the government’s lie that the biggest threat to America was on the other side of the planet, rather than in Washington DC. Can’t stand any of those guys.
Mr. Lovell, Jesus told us, in the end of days, that “because of the increase in wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.” -Matthew 24:12 I work as a police officer and one my friends / coworkers shared this verse with me, and I see the truth of it everywhere. Tim made a comment years ago that led to his hate by many, yet you extended him grace. As Jesus commanded us. What I am truly disappointed in, is how the comment section is entirely focused on Tim’s 2A stance, and not discussing his comments regarding faith. Yet, what I am truly impressed with, is how you continually steered him, humbly, back to Jesus even in his hubris - centered comments. The Holy Spirit shines bright in those that have it, for those that have eyes to see and ears to hear.
Do not unsubscribe from John for having someone on you (and he, possibly) disagrees with. We ALL know John is pro-2A (the dude talks about bringing guns into gun free zones, regardless of pity and unconstitutional laws). John may disagree with Tim, as do we all, but you have to talk to people, regardless. It’s the only way to weed them out, or to hear their side of things. But on the same hand, I follow what Geralt of Rivia said: “If I have to choose between a lesser or great evil, I’d rather not choose at all”. That’s how I feel about Tim and a Liberal: I don’t want or need either.
@@ncd7184 Unfortunately, the conservative community tends to eat their own worse than liberals. That’s where we fail tenfold. John is a great, Christian man. Period. We need not question his beliefs.
Yes, especially non violent felons! But protecting people was never the point of such laws, the point was to get people to accept a slow, incremental, creeping erosion of their rights, right up to the day their arms are confiscated. We have seen the plan carried out in other countries, many times over.
If felons can’t own guns, it creates an incentive for the government to make felons out of citizens who oppose it. Which is exactly what we’re seeing now with the new classifications of “domestic terrorism”.
Look into the LEO conference he spoke at recently. He says well regulated means gun laws? He never said that his views changed he says he was misrepresented. Doesn’t walk back a 19 year old shouldn’t own guns?
Yeah he got every part wrong. The only regulation on firearms are the founding that weren't based on race was a law about 15year olds needed an adult if hauling cannon (due to weight) or amount of power storage (due to fire). TK know nothinging about the constitution. $1K says he hasn't read the federalist papers to understand the constitution.
@@constitutionalright827 Right! Unfortunately BRCC used to be great until they sold out. There's a reason, they're all over Walmart & other major big box stores these days. Tim Kennedy + BRCC = 🗑
Isn't that interesting? We're taught, in government indoctrinations camps/public schools that, people acting on behalf of government only have these rights because they derive them from "the people". If that is the case than, "the people" would have the right to do whatever people in government do, and if both groups of people, the government and the people, have the same rights, why pretend there's a difference between the two groups? It's organized crime kids.
What you refused a covid shot while serving in armed forces and did was given a dishonorable discharge for that purpose…now go fill out your 4473 and see if your allowed to purchase a gun!
He walked them back in this video. I wouldn’t lose respect for WPS so quickly before you watch the video. John pressed him on those comments very early in the interview.
So Tim's answer to what about when you're old or get bone marrow cancer is basically that it won't happen to him, or that's just natural selection. He's a real warrior, but father time is undefeated.
John, you did a great job interviewing and asking clarifying questions (can my 15 y/o have an AR…) and even subtly disagreeing by redirecting his “gun control ideas” to be more properly labeled as a small business owners right to decide who to do business with. You model the ethos well by being well poised, genuine, and up front with your conversation. So, “yay for that” haha.
It was a good interview, John had a good handle especially during the 4F’s, and how John saw that Faith was more important or when they were talking about how you can help the World without being the fittest physical specimen (Bone marrow cancer conversation), certainly it does not matter how fit or freak of nature you are, your body will decay, and at that point you can still be useful in different ways
I don't respect everyone who has served in the military, a lot of them are not worthy of respect. I respect those that served honorably, uphold the constitution, and didn't do things like commit war crimes or be a fking cook and be all "I'm a veteran!" There are complete scumbags in the military, just as there are great men in the military. And everything in between.
Whoever says shadow banning doesn't exist, needs to see that a video posted by one of this era's most genuine and awesome people, with 1.47 million subscribers hosting one of the most controversial people in 2a only has 87,000 views in 2 weeks... Good interview, shed some light on stuff. Way to go gents!
John softballed it and didn't press him hard. TK did a bit of backpedaling and deflection from his comments and made lots of excuses, but no true repentance.
This was an awesome interview, and I’ve always loved following Kennedy. Was disheartened and saddened to hear he had a questionable stance on 2A but this was a good interview. Thanks John for putting this out there
John- Nice try to redirect our brother on intelligent and strong as the best and greatest. Tim- appreciate and are glad for your service. Loving God and being godly is what Scripture commands. John is correct.
The thing to remember is that "regulated" in the parlance of the 18th century did not mean restricted by laws. "Regulated" ment trained and equiped to a particular standard. If you watch a movie set in the time period like "Patriot" for example, you hear the characters say things like "were they regulars or militia?" This refers to troop units. The British regulars were the red coats we are all familiar with, the ones that march in a line and shot at close range, but they also had irregular units/troops. These were the ones that did other types of fighting, like various types of skirmishers, sharpshooters, scouts, native forces, militias etc. When reading 2A, lets focus on the part "the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Lets not forget that not tjat long ago, private individuals owned and operated war ships.
I can't agree with a few of Tim's views but I love how well you handled yourself while still challenging him in love. Keep holding the line my brother in Christ. Way to go by the way of challenging Tim's views with 1 Tim 4:8!
I kinda think he changed his mind and is now more unconditional 2a support...but he can't publicly admit to his fkups so it seems like he's disingenuous. I dunno, what do you think?
I distinctly remember Tim Kennedy saying on a Joe Rogan podcast, and I’m paraphrasing here, that he doesn’t believe “civilians should own/have access to AR-15’s”! I believe I heard him say that!
Love what both of you are doing keep up the good work. Also if you have a moment to read scars and stripes it is a phenomenal book. It will also clear up any misgivings and missing context for who time Kennedy is and what he stand for.
He said something years ago I didn’t like. In this video, he’s making it clear he is a 2a guy. But so many in the comments show such self-righteousness. No forgiveness. No grace. No benefit of the doubt. Zero loyalty. So it goes with the self-righteous, they will eat their own at the drop of a hat. Today they love you and tomorrow they are ready to light torches and grab pitchforks.
I will error on the side of grace. I will have conversations with people you may not like. I’ll ask them questions. I’ll love them even though you demand I hate them.
I don't hate him, I hate what he said years ago, I truly hope he has seen the error of his ways as we all should when we make errors. 2A is a non negotiable subject for me, I believe all gun laws are infringements, anyone should own anything they want, and I'm sticking to that.
Spot on. The comment section is out of control.
Very insane, Tim appeared on The Shawn Ryan show getting tons of positive comments and it was a great interview. But John has him on and the comments are just purely negative.
Lastly, the hate on John is wild to me. The interview was entertaining in typical John fashion and he directly asked him about the elephant in the room from “us”.
@@Isaac556x45+1
Ball busting brigade in full force. God bless you, brother.
Matthew 6:14-15 KJV
14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
He didn't even walk back anything he said on his anti-2a stance. He basically just reworded it
Tim came off as very egotistical and showed a lack of practicality and understanding yet John remained calm and thoughtful when they discussed aging and what makes a strong man. John is nothing but genuine in every way. This does not go unnoticed John, way to go 🇺🇸
I thought so too
Tim is not like that.... He has a sense of humor....😂
Unless you know a person, negativity serves no purpose other than speak about you and your character. Its best to be critical of peers you work alongside. Otherwise, you’re just a hater and/or troll. Tim and John are the Men to look to. Not knockdown.
I didn't even have to say it, everyone else already has.
Thank you for having him on to clarify his position and lack of knowledge on the constitution and our rights. He will be one of the first who will enjoy kicking in doors of Americans and taking their rights by force when he is called to do it.
"Well regulated " in the language of the constitution meant "well trained"- nothing to do with laws.
So, do you think it's a good idea that an illegal alien is allowed to carry a weapon, as a judge somewhere in the US recently ruled ?
@@pilgrimwings1295an illegal alien isn't a US citizen
@@pilgrimwings1295if rights come from God then illegals have rights too. If it's an issue (which it is) then they shouldn't have allowed them to come in and stay illegally.
@pilgrimwings1295 that is a dumb question and an example of extreme. First the constitution is specifically for US Citizens.
@@pilgrimwings1295Rights are not privileges, and they’re intrinsic.
Illegal aliens still have their god given rights, they just don’t have the right to be here.
Deport, no charges for just possessing a firearm.
Notice, when John asked Tim “the question”, he talked about himself, but never asked for forgiveness. He tried to walk it back and absolve himself. Then he explained he doesn’t understand the second amendment.
I’d like to extend him grace, but he doesn’t want it.
I really appreciate John for dissecting and, ultimately, correcting Tim's breakdown of these 4 Fs: Faith, Family, Fitness, and Finances. Tim believes Fitness is #1 too much and gets arrogant about it with the "sovereign" complex. John corrects him that Faith is actually #1. Although not ideal, you can be fat but still contribute to the fight with your intelligence or other skills. You can be a psychological warrior. Wisdom, the Bible says, is supreme and in all thy getting, get understanding.
John, once again, maintains the truth that Jesus is our cornerstone. We are warriors because of God. We can execute everything else because of God. Without God, we are nothing. Tim needs to remember that. God is sovereign. Not us. We are managers of these things.
Anyway, this is my first listen to getting to know Tim Kennedy. In general, I admire and respect him as a person and all he's become and grown from. Kudos. I don't like USCCA so I'm tired of seeing him in those ads lol. (I went with CCW Safe). I don't think John is simping. He's just showing love. Love you John. Can't wait to take one of your classes. Come to Michigan! (Detroiter here)
I agree. Did John say who his God is? Is Jesus his God?
@@kevinsmith9513I believe he is Christian. But in his book he is very vague as well as not to exclude anyone from being a “warrior” He calls on all religions to unite in his cause of becoming warriors. I just don’t know if that’s wise the whole dark/light fellowshipping.
@@kevinsmith9513 Grace City Rome. John is the lead Pastor there.
Tims premise/foundation is what’s wrong. He’s done some good stuff. Damage he does to free men is just as bad.
I couldn’t agree more. We love you John! Thank you for teaching us and allowing the lord to use you for his good will and pleasure. Please come to Michigan.
As a 20 year old with an actual understanding of the Constitution.... Tims flagrant ignorance (or disregard) of the Constitution truly concerns and infuriates me.
"I think gun control is a massive solution. I don't think a 19 year old should be able to buy or have access to an AR-15. I don't even think he should be able to buy a pistol, and fortunately he can't"- Tim Kennedy
I strive to be a responsible American citizen. And I strive to be an upstanding Christian. I own lots of firearms, and I carry everyday.
I’ll be the first to admit I am no “operator” with combat experience, or lawyer.
But I love my country, my Constitution, and I know my rights, and have educated myself about the law, and am perfectly competent with my weapons.
And he thinks that the Constitution doesn't apply to me?!
I can respect him and his service and also call him out for his flagrant disregard/ignorance of the Constitution and basic precepts of liberty.
Exactly.
Ignorance on the constitution, ignorance on Christianity, arrogance in himself.
You can tell by his words, he doesn't believe in the same god as alot of us do, it's all show for him.
I still appreciate his accomplishments and that he's had success in his life
yeah man, at 19 i was in afghanistan with a MK19 😅
@@Str8Jacket_5150but now you can’t be trusted with an ar15! 😂
@@Str8Jacket_5150 🤣
But ya ain’t mature enough to buy a handgun right 🙄🤦♂️
Once again, he pulls the "it was taken out of context" card, when the entire interview is on youtube and you can watch where he says "i think gun control is a massive solution, i don't think a 19 year old kid should be able to have an AR-15." If you claim to be pro 2A, maybe stick up for it when the time comes and don't appeal to lance and his fanbase because you know they have different views.
If Tim Kennedy were a comic book character he would be Two Face!
Well regulated just means well prepared, it does not mean regulated by the government 🙄
Who then is going to criminalize illegal aliens for possessing a firearm instead of saying it's okay, like a judge recently ruled ?
@@pilgrimwings1295 aliens aren't is citizens
@@pilgrimwings1295that is not related to gun control. Illegal aliens do not have Constitutional Rights in the first place.
Jack N. Rakove said it best. ""Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed,
well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in
that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was
in an effective shape to fight.""
"Rakove won the 1997 Pulitzer Prize for History and the 1998 Cox Book Prize for Original Meanings: Politics and Ideas in the Making of the Constitution (1996) which questioned whether originalism is a comprehensive and exhaustive means of interpreting the Constitution"
Also this guy is not 2A. Any that limits 19 yr old "kids" from arms is not 2A. Now if you want to change the age of adult to 20 or 21 that's different but if you're an Adult you get the good and the bad when it comes to rights period... That being said I'm not 2A I don't want convicted violent offenders to have 2A. Everyone else you're good.
@@Adam-kj4pp you're also a FUDD 💀 ☠️
Who next? Dan the man Cringe shaw?
That’s the best name… bravo! Underrated comment!
Eyepatch McCain
That would be awesome if he had him on and scrutinized Eye Patches ideas... I think John would do good... it's nice to hear from people who don't agree sometimes and not always just hear what you agree with... especially when someone as smart as John would get the chance to debate someone as cringe as Cringeshaw
@@pewpewbbqs Crenshaw is a snake; I remember when reporter asked him if there should be a law where if you’re in congress, or on one of those committees with access to information… that fake POS scoffed at the idea, when he reacted like that, I for sure could see what kind of officer he was in the Navy.
Eyepatch McCain
I’m willing to give Tim a chance I just do not believe he has fully grown up yet. Hopefully he gets there one day. I’m still glad John had him here and challenged him on some issues. We still have to have grace for people guys doesn’t mean you don’t keep an eye on them for a while. Thanks John.
He calls himself a christian but he also supports prostitution.
100% my sentiments as well
Tim: I think there are good gun laws
John: I think any law is an infringement on the 2A
Tim: Yes. Right.
Me: 🤨🤔
Tim: faith and fitness are just as important as each other
Me:😔 nope he's lost
@HeyYaHo-co3dn not gonna lie, I didn't watch that far lol but Ive NEVER seen Tim mention Christ or religion. Getting Crenshaw "blend in to fit in" vibes
So you believe violent fellons should be able to buy firearms?
Seriously what an odd thing to say
@@HeyYaHo-co3dnfitness is necessary to survive down here. But put up your treasures in heaven first and foremost
John, I love your channel, but I couldn’t finish this episode. I’ll be back for your other stuff though.
Tim "Gun Control" Kennedy
Umm…. He straight up said no
@@josephmann9624But he has advocated for gun control more than once in the past. I’m ready and open to forgive and accept he’s changed but it’s gonna take more than him saying it one time. There needs to be continued support from him and there never needs to be anything pro gun control or anti 2A coming out of his mouth ever again.
@@josephmann9624 yeah he said no and then said I believe in gun laws. He is the biggest hypocrite and to stupid to realize his own stupidity.
@@josephmann9624ummmm he straight up has repeatedly embraced and supported gun control and the denial of rights to American citizens.
@josephmann9624 uhhhh did you watch this?? Hes a Fed in favor of taking away God given freedoms of The People.
The worst thing you can do to Tim is let him speak. I thank you for that.
Man looks like the comments section dislikes Tim Kennedy more than Mark Driscol lol
Because we do.
It's about a tie for me. I've always been a fan of John, ever since James Yeager had him on his channel, before he built the WPS brand, but I'm having to pause now, looking at the people he calls his friends.
@@EasyMac308 Just because he is having conversations with people doesn't mean he endorses everything they have ever said. I don't like Tim Kennedy, I do like John Lovell.
@@EasyMac308Regardless of who his friends are I think he’s a fantastic pastor and love his sermons
@@Isaac556x45 I love John, too, and I'm rooting for his success. It just makes me cautious when I see someone with celebrity status start giving a platform to people who should not have a platform.
Timmy went from “every American should be able to defend themselves without infringement” to “gun control isn’t such a bad thing, we should increase it.”
"I'm pro-2a, but......."
He almost apologized for saying he supported infringements... almost.
I'll give him integrity points for not apologizing for something he clearly still believes. At least there is that. This isn't about hating Tim, this is about Tim has made it clear that free men cannot trust him. Full stop.
@@constitutionalright827well said
@@constitutionalright827well said 100% agree
The Kennedy rehabilitation tour continues…..try as you might, you’ve outed your arrogance and elitism.
indeed
Pure damage control
Right! Shawn Ryan Show last week, and now this week on John's WPN/Warrior Poet Society Network. I wonder who's going to allow him on their show next.
@@donovanchilton5817 Oh w0w!! Disgusting (Tim). 🤮
@@peacesmakers As I said on Shawn's EDC video. Too bad Tim doesn't have a pocket Constitution in his EDC. He could use it to remember his oath.
Just so we’re clear Tim, you’ll never be able to backtrack your Anti 2A stance.
Tulsi trying real hard too
Jesus
So I guess make a mistake and you're f***ed for life I guess. No chance of redemption. Guess everyone's f****ed then cause ain't no one clean lol. The skittle hairs would be proud.
Tim sounds like a product of the w.e.f. young global leaders program
@@Bearsmith23 if you'd watched any interviews of this dude, you'd know that he thinks of himself as far above normal people.
Wish Tim was Pro 2A
Thank you John for trying to correct his biblical understanding of faith v fitness. David didn't best Goliath because he was built like a Greek god. He beat him because he had unwavering FAITH that he was fighting in the name of the ONE TRUE GOD. Hopefully, one day that truth will be revealed to him. Once again, John, thank you for lovingly trying to correct him in that, because it will continue to hinder his walk.
I wouldn't assume that truth would be revealed to him.
Every religion has faith they are fighting for the one true god. Each religion also has millions who claim the truth was revealed to them. He didn't correct him he just stated his beliefs.
@joelrivardguitar sure. But they were talking about the Bible and Christians as believers in Christ. That's why I worded my comment they way I did. John was gently trying to correct a brother and I think he did it well, so I wanted to show appreciation to him for his honorable example of Christian mentorship.
@@WyoRaider Right but there was nothing to correct. John just offered his opinion. Nothing is hindering his walk. Hopefully the truth will be revealed to him?
@joelrivardguitar What's "hindering his walk" is that he believes that David beat Goliath because he was strong. Actually, David beat Goliath because his faith was strong. Sampson wasn't strong because he was in the gym all day. Sampson was strong because the Lord gave him strength, and he lost it when he was deceived by Delilah and was prideful. The point I was trying to make, and that John was trying to make, is that, as Christians, our strength comes from our faith in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit first. It doesn't come from time spent in the gym, a positive mindset, or any other thing we do. Those all are secondary to faith. This guy believes that if he just stays fit, he can stave off all the ills of this world, and that's just not true. It's not true physically, and it's not true spiritually. We are saved thru faith, by grace, in Jesus. Believing that we can do something physically or in our own will to save ourselves is foolish and hinders our walk with Him. Hopefully that helps.
Tim's comments and training advice at a LEO conference is even more frightening and anti constitutional. Signs of the times. Them vs us. Class separation at it's finest
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Oh yeah definitely. It was Street Cops if anyone is wondering. Short version, those are the cops you never want to run into .
Its always good to bring on the anti 2A crowd to see how they view things.
I like what you did there 👍🏻
The funny thing is that Tim has probably put in 100 times the effort to protect the 2A and America than you have.
@@jonmiller5402hope you brushed your teeth after eating those boots
@@jonmiller5402you’re wrong. He has used his influence to hurt the 2A and civilian ownership of firearms.
@@jonmiller5402 🤡
You did a great job John, thank you for getting us some clarification! 👍🏻
Tim. I worked hard all my life. Supported my family. In my youth I venture I could do anything, physically, you could do. I too muscled through the pain. Now, I'm paying for it. I no longer can "run, jump and lift heavy things". I feel every injury I've earned through my youth. Therefore, I'm not the fit, tough young man I was. I've gained some weight because I can no longer exercise with the intensity I once did. I congratulate you on your accomplishments in life. God, indeed, has blessed you. I admire that you can still serve. But, as you know, we all have been given gifts from God. Not everyone is blessed to be the calibre warrior you are. So, I said all that to say this... lighten up a little bit on us.
Weight has far less to do with exercise than diet. Losing fat and maintaining a healthy weight requires disciplined eating. A lessened ability for physical movement is a poor excuse. Believe me, I speak from personal experience.
@@mattkosakowski7582 You are probably not my age either with the extra years of wear and tear. Just sayin'. If it worked for you, that's awesome. I'm happy for you. But, we all aren't the same. What may work for me might not you you and vice versa. We ALL have our limits to what is possible.
@@garyworley5806 Sorry if that came off harsh. I’m 55 with a shoulder that dislocated several times (first on the o-course in 1990), two back surgeries and now nerve damage that makes my right leg very wobbly.
In terms of exercise I just do what I can do. For eating, I avoid any simple carbs, go high protein, low Sat fat. And most of all, just don’t eat that much. As my metabolism slows down, I try to stay below 1,800 cal/day. I’m not a martyr so I will “cheat” on holidays.
It is very difficult to offset a 500 cal donut at breakfast - just that is an hour of hard running.
The main benefit of exercise is not direct weight loss but many other physical factors like cardio fitness, muscle mass/strength, and flexibility.
I get it; food is a comfort and fills a void. I learned that most of us of a certain age just eat to damn much. Lack of ability to do activity has nothing to do with it.
AMEN
Tim would take a contract to round up guns from law abiding citizens.
And now Jon is helping
@@Jezus42 I do think John separated himself in their discussion in a good way
Absolutely he would
@kevinduver I have yet to watch the video yet. I'm about to, but just look around just giving this guy a platform is almost as bad in my book.
@Jezus42 I agree for the most part, yes.
If you guys like Tim's quotes on the 2A then you'll love his more recent venture. As a brand ambassador, along with the former Top Cop of Chicago (bastion of 2A rights that place is) , for the company DoubleCheck. What is DoubleCheck? Well, in a nutshell, Tim and his buddies feel A.I. should be utilized to perform background checks on us commoners to determine if our social credit score is in the range to even purchase a firearm. Thanks, Tim!
Notice john didn’t ask about this. What could possibly go wrong with AI doing your background check … 🤦♂
I respect Jon, ill watch this and see of Kennedy actually makes a point. However, no one forgets when he went pro gun control and he endorses USCCA, who has shown they don't support members.
I respected John in the video, but his pinned comment has really got me thinking we lost this fight boys.
“Law abiding citizens should be able to own guns” Tim. 10:12 . Wait until they say you’re not law abiding if you have more than a 5 round mag.
I can only hope to one day be as awesome as Tim Kennedy thinks he is….
Physical condition can boost mental acumen, but the soul commands both. The strong protect the weak, without contempt.
Mr Lovell I can't tell you how much I appreciate your podcast. I'm a 54-year-old veteran from the first Gulf War. I Grew up Without my parent's my grandmother basically raised me from I was 10 till I was 18 when I did join the the Army, 13 Bravo during the first Gulf War again and I see some of the podcast that you put on I just watched the one with you and Tim Kennedy and I feel so inadequate when it comes to you guys versus what I did you know I look at all of the role models that young people have today that teaches young men how to be real men and warriors I really wish that I had these type of role models to teach me when I was young sometimes it's so hard to give myself credit for the little that I did in the first Gulf War compared to what you guys did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or sometimes it hurts so bad because I didn't do more. So I guess my question is how do you get past that? You guys fought off and on for 20 years my War took 100 hours I'm sorry just have a hard time reconciling
If a felon is too dangerous to buy a gun, they are too dangerous to be let out of prison.
This is one of the things I’ve wondered a lot about. If you’re OK with prison, you’re clearly OK with taking away peoples rights. What about having those rights removed for a time after prison to prove you have changed. I do believe in some gun laws. For instance I don’t think a 12 year old should be able to go buy a gun. I do, however believe that a parent should be able to buy a gun for their child of whichever age the parent sees appropriate.
Shouldn’t a felon have his rights restored if he did his due time?
@@JC-cv3up yes. My brother had to pay $15k to get his rights reinstated. It’s absolutely possible but pricey and unconstitutional af.
@@JC-cv3upit’s a good question but the studies show that most of the time violent offenders will be arrested again for violent crime after their release. It would have to be a case by case thing if that was ever implemented in my opinion.
That's exactly it....they did their time or not...after that clean slate as far as the constitution is concerned
Whew. The comment section is holding nothing back. I am glad that he did waffle once or twice during this interview, hopefully, to show John why we dislike TK. I did watch the interview because I love you John, but I totally hope you have had your fill. Perhaps he mispoke (for at least a fourth time that I have seen) or maybe, just maybe he isnt as much of a Christ-follower / Pro 2A dude he says he is. Has he done some amazing things, no doubt, and I will never dismiss that with him, but pro Constitution, he is not. He wants all the freedoms, but we lay people, the peons, nope, not for us.
Bummer that you brought this clout chasing, pro gun control, vet bro on and gave him a platform. I'm out, TK is a snake and all you influencers in the community keep letting him around.
As bad as it is, don't quit WPSN. It's one misstep in a whole series of good moves.
Well said!
@@donovanchilton5817it’s called a conversation unless you’re against the 1st amendment.
Starting to wonder if this was just to get comments.....
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 that's cute. Nobody said to arrest him. He's shown his true colors enough that people don't care to hear more. Honestly, the worst thing you can do to TK is let him speak.
Has he rescinded his previous statements on 18 year olds not being able to own guns and supporting gun control as a massive solution? No? Then why are we giving him respect?
Warrior Poet Society: No he hasn’t but we’re going to pretend like he did
Did he not provide it when John asked him if it’s ok if his 15 year old can have an AR and Tim said yes
@@JC-cv3up no he just reworded what he said
John asked him a clear question regarding buying his 15 year old an ar and Tim said “yes”! Straight up yes with no equivocation!
@@jameyhunt438 no he didn’t. He gave a half hearted yes and then went to explain how he believes the gun laws we have are good at stopping criminals from getting guns so we shouldn’t remove them.
Don't forget, at the end of the day, Tim Kennedy is a fed.
All gunslingers are feds its why we know how dangerous our government really is behind closed doors,we work or worked for the devil as soldiers and contractors in the GWOT,listen to our warnings we've seen the wizard behind the curtain and they are dangerous
Tim Kennedy the kinda guy that pesters you to make him a sawed off shotgun, then shoots your dog and children.
I bet he thinks he’s a sheepdog, homie doesn’t he is a lapdog of the Elite.
Watch your word play with Vets.
@matthewpb4742 no F U your not untied states of America we the people are u vets are nothing too us except a arm of the communist government
@@GrimReaper.209 Tim Kennedy is a commie.
John, you are the MAN!!
Humility is truly a virtue!!
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Not a fan of Tim Kennedy at all, especially after he lied and tried to downplay his past comments when he responded to the backlash on his own channel. I hope you read these comments and address it in your next video, and it's a shame everyone's being a coward to call him on it to his face.
One of your best my brother! Loved watching two of America's finest warriors mix it up. Bless ya man.
He is very self absorbed. The king of the humble brag.
Note:
“Shall not be infringed”. There’s nothing in there about law-abiding citizens. If so, then who is to judge what is “law-abiding”? The government? Slippery slope…
“18 year olds shouldn’t have AR15’s” - Tim Kennedy
Someone needs to remind him that 13 year olds with guns helped build this nation.
@@Isaac556x45He wouldn't care, Because he can't say he was there.
Watch the video
@@spencerhall6744 we did. We're you dumb enough to believe his pandering?
Obviously not, next will let them have a dip or cigarette again. Are you crazy
Kennedy is doing everything he can to appear pro 2A. Sorry, Timmy, you already made your bed
He made it pretty clear on this podcast
@@danielpohl29 I dont think he did. He was thrown a softball on John buying his 15 year old an ar, but ignoring the actual question that he said that 19 year old shouldnt. Apples and oranges
It takes a long time to break liberal habits. And the fact it happened when fascist liberal policies are being exposed for how bad they are is concerning. He is chasing popularity until he proves after a decade he is consistent.
I liked Garrick's comment, he didn't thumb his own poop shooter.
He’s still failing 😂 what a regard ♿️
Starting Strength and the carnivore lifestyle are the roots of my health and fitness! Love this conversation and thank you both for your past and current service.
Would like to know if he ever plans to apologize for supporting gun control. And how much his PR team paid for him to be in a video.
That's a negative, no apology inbound.
"Well regulated militia means guns laws. There are some good gun laws on the books and any form of regulation or laws in my mind is gun control." And he goes on to say that felons, people using drugs, and illegal immigrants are the justification of the gun control laws because they shouldn't have guns. I appreciate that this seems to be more pro-2A than he was previously, but who decides who is a felon? Who is to say what drugs constitute a justification for taking someone's guns away? Many people are on medication, and we know many types of prescriptions are far more dangerous and addictive than pot or shrooms or something like that. And what about alcohol?
To be fair he seems to have changed his tune mostly, but the "law abiding citizen" mentality still underpins his thoughts and only requires anti-2A politicians to change the law.
@@pufthedragonCCS While I get where you’re coming from, the question “who decides who is a felon” seems pretty self-explanatory
Did you or any giving the thumbs up listen to him in this video? I think he made his support for the 2A pretty clear. Or do you guys think infighting is the 2A community’s strength?
@@martyc4906 we heard the bullshit he said.
No one loves Tim Kennedy more than Tim Kennedy
You gotta love yourself in order to love others 🤷♂️
"There are good forms of gun laws". "I'm a libertarian"
It’s like seeing someone with a Gadsden flag and a thin blue line flag together
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But he is right. Anyone not a citizen of the United States should not own a gun. That's still a libertarian outlook
Lmao
Libertarianism doesn’t mean anarcho-capitalism. You can be a libertarian while still thinking you need some regulations on some things
John a great interview ! Pointing to the gospel at all times as usual . Keep standing in your faith ..
praying that eyes are opened
I don't know why everyone is hating on Mr. Tim Kennedy, did you guys even listen to what he is saying?
F Timmy and his gun control.
Any of you guys listening to what he said???
th-cam.com/video/gfzGJ7Gzrus/w-d-xo.html
Bunch of tribalist bigots.
@@josephmann9624 Are YOU? Our ears are clear of debris. What he said is obvious.
@@josephmann9624you're the one who's not listening. He's doing his best to look pro 2a while not backtracking on his anti 2a comments.
Man, Tim Kennedy? Was Nancy Palosi or Diane Feinstein not available?
Dude! 😂
Well Diane Feinstein is dead sooo
Ones dead the other looks dead but won't die and there's tim
@@mortem-tyrannisPelosi has 4 eyebrows.
geez the are not the same lol
The community needs to come together now more than ever.
Cant believe John would simp for Tim like this.
Having a conversation is t simping. Otherwise, how would people know? Taking your word? You’re another daft commenter like me.
I had no idea an open conversation was simping. This is what kills me about you boomers (or boomer mentality). We get new 2A members every day and not all of them are aware of the things that TK has said in the past. The comment section sure as fuck isn’t going to persuade them, so let them listen for themselves and make up their own minds. And if you’re not a boomer you certainly comment like one. I love the 2A but the gatekeeping is ridiculous.
His point was John should have taken tim to task...this was a pleasure section and definitely simp territory...FYI everyone born in the US is automatically a member of the 2a community like it or not..I give my own friends and family a harder time if they start in with anti 2a bs then tim just got...gen x 👍
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 I don't get your take at all, holding someone accountable for things that they said they support is gatekeeping? Calling out red flag laws and age restrictions is being a boomer? You can like tim if you want but if you're at all intellectually honest then you should understand why others don't without slinging insults.
I just want to say that I appreciate you being so very clear on where you stand. Your unwavering commentary was extremely refreshing. I must say that since the day I was saved, I tend to lean toward certain individuals and content, I don’t run from opposition but I am cautious to what I am consuming. I liked your channel from the beginning but this is the first I’ve heard of your own acceptance of Jesus Christ. I support you fully, Brother!
I will admit that I didn't know much about Tim apart from his now infamous 2A statements. I have a better understanding of him now. He seems to have a low self esteem and overcompensates by doing whatever he can to gain approval of whomever he thinks will help that. I don't hate him for it, more pity than anything. It's a weakness that he is constantly feeding.
I think you've hit the nail on the head.
He has an ai red flag comppany. Hes not some shy dude that doesnt know how to express himself. He just cant effectivly lie and deflect. He has these freudian slip ups when hes comfortable around his fellow feds.
I have been patiently waiting on this collaboration for years! Finally!!! Thank you both for everything you do.
Gotta love John! He ask Tim straight up about his 2A Stance!
But John didn't attempt to correct his thinking. Owning a firearm is a inalienable/God-Given Right. The 2nd Amendment is supposed to keep Gov in check from infringing that.
Great interview! Good solid questions with Wonderful Counsel back to Tim, Brother John. Keep It Up!
First, partnering with DD and now Tim Kennedy (who is NOT Pro-2A). I love you John, but I'm starting to get slightly concerned. And this is coming from someone who's always supported The WPS (including my wife and buying gear and apparel), and my wife getting me your book for a Christmas present.
TK is legit anti 2A but I think you oughta do some reading on Daniel Defense. CEO put out a statement on his comments in congress, about the whole "We work with our regulators", as EVERY gun company is forced to, and oh yeah, he was kinda in the lion's den too, in the biggest government center in the whole US, so maybe not going full revolution on the congressional floor was a good call.
T.REX Arms' video on DD managed to soften my view on them a fair bit. I don't know how we can accept TK without straightforward repentance from him, though.
Johns on the level, his good to go he's not Tim
The New CEO is coming out as Pro-2A, but DD is owned by the same person who has not repented from his previous stance on the 2A. @@JohnSmith-xv2ob
Regarding repentence: Jesus basically said not to pay attention to what people say, rather, watch what they do.@@EasyMac308
Im going to try and sit thru this but all my previous exposures to him have revealed him to be similarly minded with the BRCC guys, “if you weren’t SF you aren’t worthy of owning a gun”. And adult men dont wear their hats backward to be cool.
Yep. American bro-vet culture almost always results in a caste-system mindset. “We served, so we deserve more rights than you.” No, you fell for the government’s lie that the biggest threat to America was on the other side of the planet, rather than in Washington DC. Can’t stand any of those guys.
Mr. Lovell,
Jesus told us, in the end of days, that “because of the increase in wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.” -Matthew 24:12
I work as a police officer and one my friends / coworkers shared this verse with me, and I see the truth of it everywhere.
Tim made a comment years ago that led to his hate by many, yet you extended him grace. As Jesus commanded us.
What I am truly disappointed in, is how the comment section is entirely focused on Tim’s 2A stance, and not discussing his comments regarding faith. Yet, what I am truly impressed with, is how you continually steered him, humbly, back to Jesus even in his hubris - centered comments.
The Holy Spirit shines bright in those that have it, for those that have eyes to see and ears to hear.
Amen
Awesome interview Y'all.Shout out from Texas from former U.S Coast Guardsman, keep the faith and stay strong!
A well regulated militia does not mean regulated by laws. It means well trained.
Do not unsubscribe from John for having someone on you (and he, possibly) disagrees with. We ALL know John is pro-2A (the dude talks about bringing guns into gun free zones, regardless of pity and unconstitutional laws). John may disagree with Tim, as do we all, but you have to talk to people, regardless. It’s the only way to weed them out, or to hear their side of things. But on the same hand, I follow what Geralt of Rivia said:
“If I have to choose between a lesser or great evil, I’d rather not choose at all”. That’s how I feel about Tim and a Liberal: I don’t want or need either.
Exactly! I notice all these commenters criticizing John. He’s just asking the tough questions
@@ncd7184 Unfortunately, the conservative community tends to eat their own worse than liberals. That’s where we fail tenfold. John is a great, Christian man. Period. We need not question his beliefs.
Yea John was fooled by this elitest douche and his rehearsed sales pitch... not his fault.
FELONS SHOULD BE ABLE TO OWN GUNS. WHO MADE THE LAWS THAT CREATE FELONS.
SHALL 'NOT' BE INFRINGED IS PRETTY DAMN SPECIFIC.
Hear hear! Once you serve your sentence, it is unconstitutional to deprive you of your rights. They're rights, NOT privileges.
If a felon is someone they cant trust with a gun he shouldn’t be back on the streets with us. Give felons back their rights!
Yes, especially non violent felons! But protecting people was never the point of such laws, the point was to get people to accept a slow, incremental, creeping erosion of their rights, right up to the day their arms are confiscated. We have seen the plan carried out in other countries, many times over.
I agree. Once you served your time all your rights should be restored
If felons can’t own guns, it creates an incentive for the government to make felons out of citizens who oppose it. Which is exactly what we’re seeing now with the new classifications of “domestic terrorism”.
A passionate, patriotic American..... outstanding conversation! 😃👍❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
We all need more of this.....
Regulations/Laws =Infringments. The wording is specific for a reason "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
John is gonna risk his brand by associating with this guy.
Look into the LEO conference he spoke at recently. He says well regulated means gun laws? He never said that his views changed he says he was misrepresented. Doesn’t walk back a 19 year old shouldn’t own guns?
So Tim should be able to own a tank, but civilians should not be allowed to own AR-15s?
Rules or thee
He’s what most would consider to be a hypocrite.
What does TK know about the 2nd amendment lol
He is the same dude that said age matters
But he’s perfectly ok with 17 year-olds signing up to kill people for the federal government.
Yeah he got every part wrong. The only regulation on firearms are the founding that weren't based on race was a law about 15year olds needed an adult if hauling cannon (due to weight) or amount of power storage (due to fire). TK know nothinging about the constitution. $1K says he hasn't read the federalist papers to understand the constitution.
Tim is a bro vet elitist who doesn't think peasants like me should have the same equipment that he does.
Facts!!! 💯 And he still hasn't retracted or taken back any of his past statements.
Tim is worth about as much to me as Black Rifle Coffee.
@@constitutionalright827 Right! Unfortunately BRCC used to be great until they sold out. There's a reason, they're all over Walmart & other major big box stores these days. Tim Kennedy + BRCC = 🗑
Isn't that interesting? We're taught, in government indoctrinations camps/public schools that, people acting on behalf of government only have these rights because they derive them from "the people". If that is the case than, "the people" would have the right to do whatever people in government do, and if both groups of people, the government and the people, have the same rights, why pretend there's a difference between the two groups? It's organized crime kids.
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What you refused a covid shot while serving in armed forces and did was given a dishonorable discharge for that purpose…now go fill out your 4473 and see if your allowed to purchase a gun!
Fuck the COVID jab.
Has Tim ever walked back his anti 2A comments? Not sure why respected 2A people give this 🤡 a platform. Lost lots of respect for this channel.
TMK he hasnt walked them back since the Armstrong podcast, maybe he will later in this video, I havent watched it all yet.
He walked them back in this video. I wouldn’t lose respect for WPS so quickly before you watch the video. John pressed him on those comments very early in the interview.
So Tim's answer to what about when you're old or get bone marrow cancer is basically that it won't happen to him, or that's just natural selection. He's a real warrior, but father time is undefeated.
Appreciate you Mr. Lovell. Love the challenges that I heard to laying out.. Proverbs 27:17
"He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas"
John, you did a great job interviewing and asking clarifying questions (can my 15 y/o have an AR…) and even subtly disagreeing by redirecting his “gun control ideas” to be more properly labeled as a small business owners right to decide who to do business with. You model the ethos well by being well poised, genuine, and up front with your conversation. So, “yay for that” haha.
Mr. GUN CONTROL KENNEDY.
HARD PASS
It was a good interview, John had a good handle especially during the 4F’s, and how John saw that Faith was more important or when they were talking about how you can help the World without being the fittest physical specimen (Bone marrow cancer conversation), certainly it does not matter how fit or freak of nature you are, your body will decay, and at that point you can still be useful in different ways
My respect to everyone who has served in the military but no American should agree with gun control! 2A keeps us free!
I don't respect everyone who has served in the military, a lot of them are not worthy of respect. I respect those that served honorably, uphold the constitution, and didn't do things like commit war crimes or be a fking cook and be all "I'm a veteran!" There are complete scumbags in the military, just as there are great men in the military. And everything in between.
Whoever says shadow banning doesn't exist, needs to see that a video posted by one of this era's most genuine and awesome people, with 1.47 million subscribers hosting one of the most controversial people in 2a only has 87,000 views in 2 weeks... Good interview, shed some light on stuff. Way to go gents!
Watching to see if there's any discussion on Tim's anti-2A comments......
Lol he talked about it and it didn't help his case.
John softballed it and didn't press him hard. TK did a bit of backpedaling and deflection from his comments and made lots of excuses, but no true repentance.
Same. The only reason to watch the video.
@@mortem-tyrannisthanks, now I don’t need to waste my time watching this loser try to become relevant with us again
This was an awesome interview, and I’ve always loved following Kennedy. Was disheartened and saddened to hear he had a questionable stance on 2A but this was a good interview. Thanks John for putting this out there
Glad you two finally made a video. Two of my favorite Americans. 🫵🏻👍🏻 🇺🇸
Hey tim a good bit of reading you should look at is called the constitution of the United States of America. Read that and get back to us
Too many big words, not enough pictures.
Need more conversations like this!!
John- Nice try to redirect our brother on intelligent and strong as the best and greatest. Tim- appreciate and are glad for your service. Loving God and being godly is what Scripture commands. John is correct.
The thing to remember is that "regulated" in the parlance of the 18th century did not mean restricted by laws. "Regulated" ment trained and equiped to a particular standard.
If you watch a movie set in the time period like "Patriot" for example, you hear the characters say things like "were they regulars or militia?" This refers to troop units. The British regulars were the red coats we are all familiar with, the ones that march in a line and shot at close range, but they also had irregular units/troops. These were the ones that did other types of fighting, like various types of skirmishers, sharpshooters, scouts, native forces, militias etc.
When reading 2A, lets focus on the part "the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Lets not forget that not tjat long ago, private individuals owned and operated war ships.
John trying to help Tim win back the 2A community.
What's that say about Jon?
Not going to work.
@@Jezus42that johns a good guy forgiving and kind, I'm not falling for Tim's shit but that's what it says about john.
@@mortem-tyrannisgullible or greedy.
Who gives a fuck?
I can't agree with a few of Tim's views but I love how well you handled yourself while still challenging him in love. Keep holding the line my brother in Christ. Way to go by the way of challenging Tim's views with 1 Tim 4:8!
Can't stand Tim. Turn coat
I kinda think he changed his mind and is now more unconditional 2a support...but he can't publicly admit to his fkups so it seems like he's disingenuous. I dunno, what do you think?
The turn coat showing his colors is Jon
@@Jezus42riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
@@Jezus42I cannot stand feckless grandstanding moralizers like you. Be better.
@@Jezus42 John’s a good guy
I distinctly remember Tim Kennedy saying on a Joe Rogan podcast, and I’m paraphrasing here, that he doesn’t believe “civilians should own/have access to AR-15’s”! I believe I heard him say that!
John.... i can feel the tension in your voice. 💪
Love what both of you are doing keep up the good work. Also if you have a moment to read scars and stripes it is a phenomenal book. It will also clear up any misgivings and missing context for who time Kennedy is and what he stand for.
Sorry John no longer a fan of this guy .his statement of 2a are apauling .I'm a former soldier but boy this guy has lost my vote .
Thank you both for your commitment to propagating sovereignty, faith in God, and charity in your communities.