Argentina narrowly missed out on a spot in the 2006 World Cup semi final, if they had then Messi and CR7 would’ve faced each other in the 3rd place game.
@@klif4755 in 1990 Italy reached the semifinals without conceeding any goals, and Argentina had barely made it out of the group stage in a group with Cameroon and Romania, and got to the semifinals scoring only four goals in five matches; what was arguibly the best defense in World Cup history lost to one of the most inconsistent Argentina squads at home. And fun fact, Italy has never even tied, let alone beat Argentina in the last 33 years; it's plausible that Riquelme, Tévez and Crespo could have knocked out Italy.
@@danielmagnos3768 Ronaldo ain't a playmaker he Job is not to create chances his Job is to finish The chances messis Job is to create chances for others
@@danielmagnos3768ronaldo's priority was to become the best, while messi's priority was to make his team the best. That guy (ronaldo) literally raged if his team won but he didn't score. How could you say he's a playmaker?
@@wcapina1087u don’t know anything about football if u think creating space isn’t being a playmaker no defenders just watch him run behind the defence because someone else is controlling the ball for 3 seconds
@@bigdaddygero Maradonas highlights look similar but his statistics and trophies weren't even close to messis tally and messi did it for way longer than Maradona
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074Beside all that trophies, Considering Footballing abilities Messi is Far away, just some levels above cr7. No other player comes close to Messi except cr7
That's a good representation of Messi and Ronaldo. Messi is both one of the best finishers, AND one of the greatest captain of the offense in terms of assisting others. Both Ronaldo and Messi had two of the top teams in football around them during their entire club careers until lately. I also must say that Messi is possibly the best dribbler the world has ever seen, going through several opponents like it was nothing, in his prime, sometimes 4 and 5 defenders at the same time!
@@jovanidivine5606 I disagree. I think Messi is the best dribbler in terms of efficiency and players dribbled past, while Ronaldinho was by far the most spectacular dribbler to watch
@@jovanidivine5606 Neymar is better in drible than Ronaldinho, imagine Messi, Ronaldinho has better skills, but he is definitely not the best dribbler
@@jovanidivine5606 You are almost right, he dusn't use his real name because there was and is only one Ronaldo. Ronaldo was a better dribbler when he was just a talent as Ronaldinho is his prime.
@@giovannigio3764no I don’t think so. With the eye test you can easily see Ronaldinho wasn’t all fun and games. He actually tried to dribble past people
Man I will never forget those days of Messi vs Ronaldo el classico matches.😢 I’m so blessed to have been alive to watch these 2 goats play at the same exact time
Messi, the greatest creator of all time, outscored every goal scorer in the world for well over a decade straight. That defies logic. He was the complete package.
@@mr.spidey89agreed bro . Messi has more goals than Cristiano in Europe top 5 league . Messi has more goals and assist in Europe . That is fact . Saudi and MLS are retirement place and messi don't even care . Messi hunger has ended after winning wc because he completed his career. While ronaldo is still hungry because he want to win wc 2026 .
The difference is Messi can score 3 and feed 3 more to his teammate.. Ronaldo can't do that Messi is so good that even if he doesn't score he can still give a MOM performance with his playmakings.. Ronaldo is great Goalscorer Messi is just complete package
That’s until, cirstiano came back, plus Messi’s whole, career has ligit been in Barca ligit almost where he can easily assist players like Xavi, Puyol, Inesta, Neymar, Suearez, Pique and more, Ronaldo had to do it himself pretty much in Madrid, that’s why he was able to score more goals than Messi. If cirstiano had all those players to help him get assisted and get goals from, then what? Messi just had a better advantage just saying.
@@Yoyoyolosposkee hahaha bro go and watch how many chance's, through balls and passes Messi creates in every match..Messi literally made two of the greatest assists in last world cup..
Messi is the best goal scorer of all time, if you don't believe me, check his stats at a thousand games. Why 1k games? Because that is an objective way to compare CR7 and Messi. He has more goals, more assists, more cups, more dribbles, more everything than CR7 at 1k games.
@@bensonchatfield4849yes bro absolutely messi is the greatest goal scorer ever , greatest assister ever , greatest dribbler ever and even in top 5 playmakers of all time , more trophies , more individual awards so what's the point of debate !?
When we just look at them on social media we might feel that Ronaldo is a better player because of his physic, face, lifestyle, abs etc But as soon as both of them touch the ball with their feet you can clearly see the difference about how far superior Messi is
@@therealflash405we’re any of those UCls against Messi? The one time CR7 bested Messi he didn’t even score or assist, Paul scholes scored a screamer. Since then Messi beat him TWICE on the biggest stage (UCL 2009, UCL 2011.. we’re talking about Messi vs Ronaldo not CR7 success with Madrid who had a world class team
@@moisesvirgen7711 like 5 other teams were class too if Messi was good he would have stayed in the ucl and carried his team, but I guess that’s not for everybody
@@therealflash405 he carried Barca even after neymar left.. did we forget 2019 where he almost single handedly took Barca to a final if it weren’t for that horrible 2nd leg. Messi was by far THE BEST player in the world, VVD was elite and so was CR7 but VVD was overhyped for that season. Like fr fr, I watched Liverpool from the beginning of the season and you can’t tell me that VVD was the main reason they got where they got. They had a world class Salah, world class mane and the whole team was in its prime. Unfortunately, they were only two season wonders, Messi on the other hand has carried abysmal Barcelona teams since the days of KOEMAN. Look at Barca now, they treat getting to the QF as success, without Messi they took a massive dive in quality. Look at Madrid, they went on to win another champions with a world class benzema leading the team. Just watch the teams now bro, and tell me which team misses Messi or Ronaldo more…. Who knows when Barca will be back to its former glory days, because since Messi left they’re basically arsenal level.
If there was ever a debate, it got completely destroyed after Messi leading Argentina to win the world cup, Ronaldo is not even in the top 3 list of the most winning players of all time, only Messi, Alves and Iniesta are leading that list, where is Ronaldo then? he is not even in the top 3 of the list.
Messi : 44 Trophies Ronaldo : 34 Trophies Messi : 704 Europe goals in 853 games Ronaldo : 701 Europe goals in 949 games Messi : 303 Europe assists Ronaldo : 201 Europe assists Messi : 109 Penalty goals Ronaldo : 164 Penalty goals Messi : 62 Freekick goals Ronaldo : 60 Freekick goals Messi achievements : 8x Ballon d'Or 6x Golden boot 4x Fifa The Best 3x UEFA Best player in Europe 23x Top goalscorer 10x Player of the year 4x TM-Player of the season 1x World Cup 1x Copa America 1x Finalissima 4x Champions league 3x Fifa Club World Cup 10x Spanish Champion 2x French Champion 3x UEFA Super Cup 7x Spanish Cup 8x Spanish Super Cup 1x Leagues Cup 1x Under-20 World Cup 1x Conmebol-UEFA Cup of Champions 1x French Super Cup 1x Olympic Gold Medal Ronaldo achievements : 5x Ballon d'Or 4x Golden boot 3x Fifa The Best 4x UEFA Best player in Europe 13x Footballer of the year 1x Fifa Puskás Award 20x Top goalscorer 9x Player of the year 3x TM-Player of the season 1x Euro 5x Champions league 4x Fifa Club World Cup 3x English Champion 2x Italian Champion 2x Spanish Champion 3x UEFA Super Cup 1x UEFA Nations league 1x English FA Cup 2x Spanish Cup 1x Italian Cup 2x English League Cup 2x Italian Super Cup 2x Spanish Super Cup 1x English Super Cup 1x Portuguese Super Cup Keep barking Penaldo fans, Messi is better and will always be! 🇦🇷
Its as simple as watching them play. Cristiano is not even close to Messi. I seriously don’t understand what joy Cristiano fans get from watching him. He does the same 2-3 moves every single time and touches the ball 10 times per game, sometimes less. Messi is all over the place delivering magic and style. Easy pick
@@Mayuravo i think the problem is also their nationalities. Lots of them come from countries with no football history and can’t tell the difference. They say Cristiano is a more complete player 🤦🏻♂️
@@Martinbal126 but Messi will never achieve moments like "too far for Ronaldo to think about it" Ronaldo clears. I'm not with the repetitive dribble get close score
@@hiphopriffs7775 and u kids think wc is everything but u didn't see how good was argentina and how bad is Portugal. Before pessi argentina won two wc and 14 cope america while without Ronaldo Portugal only 3 wc qualification. Ronaldo international>>>>> pessi international 😂 go watch football.
I mean messi is a greatest goalscorer (cuz messi has played 150 less game and still the goal difference is only about 30) , he is greatest assister ever, greatest dribbler ever and he is even in top 5 midfielders of all times, more individual awards, more man of the matches.. so how the hell this is even a debate?
@@shiomgaming3600Messi is not a complete footballer he can't even do headers or skills, Ronaldo can do everything Messi can do an can't do he's not just a striker 😐
@@Ali-ov6my header? Bro wtf you have to do header.. header leads you to goal. And whats the point he cant do header if can still make the goals whit his leg.. And for your kind information messi can do header but you cr7 is better in terms of header but it doesn’t matter cuz in the end what matters is goal.. bro and you said about skill bro where are you watching football from? Messi cant do skills? Messi is better in ronaldo in terms of every skill except that bicycle.. the meatriding is crazy lamo
@@Jessy777W average pessi fans won't know that he stole 3 ballon dor no robbery dors 2 from Ronaldo you are the ones and even he had a goal with a hand still Fife to find care you are piece of shut no comparison for the world's greatest
Do you even know Ronaldo not only did bro join Man Utd and got no love from Manchester united and was underperformed and also joined juventus and at the time the club was in shambles how bout u go to sleep😭😭
The MLS fans fill the stadiums with Messi jerseys on, they applaud and celebrate Messi whereas the Saudi league fans either don't show up or taunt Ronaldo with Messi chants. This shows how the Messi vs Ronaldo debate has been concluded.
SUCH BRAINLESS COMMENT ALHILAL FANS CHANT MESSI. THEY ALSO CHANTED RONALDO DURING MIAMI VS ALHILAL MWTCH. IN USA OPPONENT FANS HAVE DONE CR7 CHANTS TAUNTING MESSI ALSO A FAMOUS ATHLET MEANS AMERICAN FOOTBALKER DID SUII BEFOR LEO MATCH. 😂
The same MLS Fans of Montrey fc stepped on Messi Jersey when they lost in CONCACAF cup and Chanted Ronaldo name Some of them even Hanged up his jersey over messi own
Tap ins are just another way to describe a decent goal💀🤦♂️ Every mf expects players to score from 40+ yards against a professional keeper(or its a "tap in") while the same mfs cant even score a pen against a professional keeper🤷♂️ Pathetic keyboard warriors...
@@Vipul6190 Even with goals, Messi is ahead. His goal ratio is higher than Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has more goals bc he's two years older. Messi also gave goal chances away, Ronaldo never did. Messi also holds the Guiness record for the most goals in a year, 91.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Messi's overall goal ratio is better because when Ronaldo started he was a pure winger, so the 2 years older really doesn't make a difference. In Ronaldo's 9 years in LaLiga he had a better goal ratio than Messi.
This video shows That Messi’s Role is different from Ronaldo’s role 2nd Mangers played a big part in These player’s career pep found the meta of football while mourinho was trying to keep up both players Are 1 in a million however people Will have there different opinion you can’t take away that from the people. They both deserve to be called The Greatest of All Time.
I strongly disagree. Messi in his fifth best season was a better player than CR7 in his best season and there is a consens among coaches that Messi is the best of his generation. CR7 is a great player and deserves massive respect, but everyone who thinks he is better or on the same level as Messi is not neutral or knows nothing about football.
Exactly look at his assist numbers overall or in this comparison he is a complete footballer a playmaker a goal scorer a talent that will not be soon in near future he is special🦍
@@everythingsfine1395 you think Messi doesn't create chances? Assist are chances successful that's why it's a goal and counted as an assist also Messi creates space for attackers by dividing defenders for spaces he is completely player
i'm always asking myself. why did no one ever analyse this debate in terms of ronaldo and messi playing as same as amount of games in each league they played. in my opinion. that is the best way to analyse this debate. if u do things like this. all u see is an overall outcome. not the detailed outcome like the one i suggest. for example. in la liga alone. messi played hundreds of games more than ronaldo played in laliga. u can compare it by reducing messi to ronaldo 200+ games in la liga and u can see that ronaldo still have higher goal ratio than messi in la liga . meaning ronaldo scores better even if messi played or not played more games than ronaldo in la liga. that is only one of the aspects tho. Many more things to take into account to...
No it doesn't, it is 100% biased, since it doesn't take into consideration that, the early Barca team is considered one of the best in history if not the best. Real Madrid team was not so good in those early years. They became better afterwards.
@@aweeb229 Yes they did, and you can add Kaka to that list also. Barca also had very good players. BUT AS A TEAM, BARCA WAS BETTER HANDS DOWN. You had enough Barca players that grew up playing together, they understood the system they were playing and that created a great team. They added a couple of pieces from outside their system and WHALA.
Both great players. Ronaldo does incredible things like scoring, aerial assault, acrobatic kicks, positioning for a finish etc. We've seen these feats from the likes of Eto, Shevchenko, Henry, R9, Van Basten, etc. The things Messi does are all of the above (minus headers and much athleticism), plus he does things you have rarely seen b4 on a regular basis. Just an opinion.
thats not opinion, thats a fact. there are video how mourinho stop messi when hes coaching inter. obi also explain that stopping messi and barca incredibly difficult. theyre all involving multiple players to stop messi since 1v1 him almost guarantee lose and he will solo your defese, if commiting too many players messi could spot his teammate and deliver killer pass. ronaldo is different, just assign world class defender to deal with him and you got good chances to stop ronaldo or at least stall him enough to reorganize defense. ashley cole is the most successful, dani alves does very good and puyol did decent dueling with ronaldo. ferguson did this to messi using park ji sung. messi walk over him almost whole match.
@@ルリ-ruri First off, that early Barcelona team is considered one of the best teams in the history of the sport. So you really can't say it was Messi vs Ronaldo. It was Barcelona vs a Real Madrid team that at that time was not so great, but Ronaldo still managed to find the back of the net a decent amount of times. And I find it funny how you say just assign a World Class defender to deal with Ronaldo. First off, how many world class defenders are there, I guess not many because Ronaldo has scored an unbelievable amount of goals. Also if Messi is so unstoppable how come he usually did most of his damage in the group stages of the Champions league when they are facing lesser competition. Even the world cup 2014 he did nothing after the group stage but ONE assist, and this is when he was in his prime.
@@jcbones3098 Messi was more effective in the group stages but it so not say that he was not in the knock outs. Definitely i would say cr7 is better in ucl because of his legacy, but overall bigger big game player is messi. He has the most goals in finals, insane record against english top 6 without playing in the prem, only player to get 10/10 rating in a ucl final, scored in each knock out stage of the WC plus a brace in the final at 35, most goals in a single champions league game, more goals that ronaldo in major international tournaments, most goals against the greatest club off all time, i can go on forever. While i list these I do not want to undermine cr7, hes insane and the best in many aspects, but in big games and being the GOAT of the sport, he is 2nd to messi. And there is nothing wrong with that.
@@sharankopal6662 Dude Messi is a great player, BUT In big games that is Ronaldo's territory. Look up what Maradona said about Messi, how he couldn't handle big games, and would vomit multiple times. Ronaldo lives for the big game, and has come through many times in big games. Also player ratings is subjective and dont' mean sh*t to me. Just like he won the best player award in 2014 world cup and didn't deserve it. He scored all his goals in the group stage and only had one assist after. Yet Argentina reached the finals, but lost to Germany. When Maradona was asked how could this be, he shrugged it off and said he got the award because of marketing.
@@jcbones3098 if youre smart enough i actually explain messi and ronaldo abilities as individual. Messi always had more option due to his ability to get past defender + finish by himself and world class playmaking. Foul him in dangerous area isnt good either since hes fk master. Also are you kidding me? Real isnt good that time? Real madrid on paper better than barca. The el clasico comentator even said so. Talent to talent comparison wise real madrid never weaker than barca even on their golden age. Barca seems better because messi and pep is there. There actually lots of world class defender back in the day. Almost every major club got some of them. Nesta, maldini, materazzi, zanetti, rio, vidic, terry, cavarlho, ashley cole, ramos, pepe, marcelo, alves etc. quality standard of a player at that time simply higher compared to today.
This debate ended in 2022 when Messi won the world cup and a final conclusion was added when he won the 8th ballon d'Or and now his on the 3rd place for the IFFH player of the year 2023🎉
@@imaxtranhvac-rdienlanhusa9822he already surpassed him and everyone knows it except messi fans. Even Xavi, Barcelona legend said that in 2009! during messi peak xd
People who say CR is a complete footballer are delusional. Objectively, CR is very much a one dimensional player. He's a goal scorer and that's it. He has nothing else to offer. Messi on the other hand has sooo much more to offer his teams than scoring goals. CR fans are the most delusional people that exist
@@choosetolivefreeLOL the entire game of football since it’s existed thousands of years ago is…to score goals. CR7 Is the best at it so by default he’s the best of all time, it’s very simple really.
I don't know why people debeat about the messi vs ronaldo topic.but here my thought about them 1.messi play for a better national team that's why he won world cup 2.people think playmaker is all about dribbling but not 3.enjoy the messi vs ronlado topic In the end we never see two players like them
Ya correct bro, we should enjoy their contribution to football rather than comparing them. Just one correction to you. If in 2022 messi had a good national team then in 2006 ronaldo also had a good national team with louis figo and deco. Still he failed to win it. Not comparing but you can't take messi's achivement like this.
imagine being so deluded.you say messi plays for a better national team but didn't we saw in that wc portugal had a better team ?what's the point of enjoying if we can't decide who is the goat?that means it's clearly time wasting.messi vs ronaldo topic comes up with a purpose that who is the goat.if your thinking just enjoy than i will kindly tell you(NO ONE WILL ENJOY IF THERE IS NO MEANING),in the end putting all things together like stats,eye test,both ablities(Goalscoring,Playmaking) and with deep analylizing.we can come at one point that messi is the goat if we think with logic and deep understanding.
After a lot of thinking I've come to the final opinion that it's best to appreciate these two. Both of them share common traits that made them serial winners and record-breakers. But they implement it differently, Messi does it through visionary playmaking, whereas Cristiano does it through explosive goalscoring. Both of them have their weaknesses due to their physiques, Messi can't score headers the way Cristiano does and Cristiano can't dribble the way Messi does. I'm sure a similar conclusion can be reached when talking about their mentalities. At the end of the day, the two of them needed each other because they would've ended up being another Eden Hazard and Gareth Bale, which is still amazing but never in the GOAT conversation. It's going to be a sad day for World Football when these two hang their boots.
Yeah it has always been like that but messi after winning the world cup and being the best player in the wc and finishing with 8 ballon dors and 6 golden boots just clears ronaldo. A diehard football fan can appreciate them both but messi is the real winner here.
@@Mango1234-k1u Tbf he won two of those ballon d'ors because he is MESSI. Lewa and Halland deserved two but I would rather not debate. He won the wc potm after scoring 6 penalties lost one match vs Saudi Arabia while Mbappe had more goals than him and same assist with less penalties. Messi was given the potm in 2014 wc as a consolation prize as he lost the final marginally because he had 4 ballon d'or before that final. Ronaldo was not given the ballon d'or even after he was the better player than Modric in 2018 just because his team didn't reach the world cup final. Well he is the highest goal scorer this year while he is 38. But I still think Messi was a marginally better player. It's still debatable after how many penalties he got in the world cup, it was like he was playing in the home grounds. Well he has great fans. Respect to both of them.
messi vs ronaldo debate only existed because of stats, anyone who who says they prefer ronaldo over messi clearly havent watched a full 90 min match in their life.
@titanium6016adapt . How much time you want to adapt . In UCL Madrid is superior everyone know . But in 9 years in Spain ronaldo won only two laliga .
@titanium6016 one club wonder 😂😂 . In PSG Messi plays as a midfielder not a attacker . Mhbappe plays as attacker . Then also won wc after going to PSG . Your greatest goal scorer didn't even have single goal in wc knockout match . We know who Is real fraud . Messi have 16 goals and 16 assist in his second season in PSG after having bad season .
@@wyatt6105 Even Ronaldo's method of winning awards and increasing his numbers was much more difficult, because his numbers were not just "numbers." His goals and assists, most of which were important and benefited the teams he was playing with in winning trophies or saves his team. Messi, most of his numbers are just numbers, not all of them, but most of them, and to prove My words, I will mention Messi 2012, literally, his statistics were useless, just numbers
Lets forget abt the messi and ronaldo debate for a second. Real madrid having arguably the best defense of the time was conceding the exact same goal over and over again
Can people stop hyping Madrid defense already? The central backs were thugs who lacked tact, calmness and composure, just playing dangerously and that’s what Messi likes so he fucked them over and over again.
@@PrashantTamang-tj4gq nope Ronaldo has more goals because he played more matches, messi has better goal per match ratio, and overall messi is way better than Ronaldo according to statistics
@@syed1721 That lame excuse again. Like Barca didn’t go through the same thing. Ronaldo payed with world class players & under world class coach throughout his career compared to Messi. Messi is just better deal with it.
I understand debate can be interesting, but also don't try to kill yourself by proving your points. You lose the argument when you insult your competitor.
@@gongtaumaster-h9t Like you knew xavi and Iniesta before Pep guardiola. People tend to forget Xavi, Iniesta, Sergio Busquets etc became household names under guardiola who was a rookie at the time. Whereas Madrid had José Mourinho who was already a champions league winner, made name in England and Portugal. Madrid always had great players and great coaches and to this day. Madrid is known worldwide for signing super players more than any other club in Europe. They even signed Luís Figo from Barcelona. Ronaldo played with the best coaches and players compared to Messi. Players who already made name for themselves, like World Cup winners, UEFA champions league winners and the Ballon d'Or. Starting with Alex Ferguson and his Manchester United squad back in 2001-2009 before joining Madrid at age 24. At Madrid Ronaldo played with midfielders like, Xabi Alonso, Toni Kroos, Luka Modrić, etc now go back and research the whole Madrid team, Manchester United team he played with and Juventus. Ronaldo played with Kaka, Bale, Pepe, Ryan gigs, angel dimari, karim Benzema, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Ricardo Carvalho, Paul scholes, vidic, Rio Ferdinand, like i could go on for days. Most of these players pick Messi over Ronaldo as the GOAT. I have been watching the beautiful game since the early 80s. I saw these things with my own eyes. Nobody cared about Barcelona after Ronaldinho left, infact we all thought Pep would fail because he was a ROOKIE at the time but somehow he created a team. Pep started gaining popularity after the win against Manchester United in the champions league whereas football fans around the World always knew Messi was special even before Pep. Go back and watch the FIFA World Youth Championship, watch every match he played and the final against Nigeria. He was the top scorer in that tournament btw. R9 and Maradona are my favorites but even i know Messi is the GOAT.
I have always known that Messi is the better player and so shall it be, but remember that Ronaldo came to a new team and you wouldn't expect him to immediately fit in and compete with Messi who grew up within his team. Ronaldo is a hard worker, a competitor and a role model, if you need inspiration even beyond football, look to Ronaldo. Messi is Goat but CR7 deserves respect for challenging him.
He is only a role model and hard worker in football bro he is doing all those because of football and mind u apart from football what else because he is not even married all his children are bastard so his hard work and role Modelling is limited only in the beautiful game of football
as a madridista .. is there anything to judge based on head to head numbers that u provided ? But if it is a highstake match a do or die situation...need someone who can be banked on...cr7 undeniably comes out top...compare the ucl knockouts stats between the two I feel messi is defitely the better player, but cr7 is the more reliable and more versatile in finding ways of scoring
Messi won the ballon d'or for his performance for the 2022/ 2023 season . Nothing to do with stats of any other years played ,so wtf do you know about awards or even football?!! You need to study it a little more to be able to judge any player ,mister who ??!!
So why has your idol failed outside of Barcelona ? Especially when he joined PSG when he had that disastrous first season with 6 goals in all competitions? Ronaldo has succeeded in other teams and in the Premier League (the toughest league in the world) while Messi failed outside of Barcelona at club level. That is definitely not a goat by any means.
@@xAmiin That argument is really trash for 2 things one, no one talks bad about Paulo Maldini, Francisco totti, Gerd Muller, Pele, Ryan Giggs, Steven Gerrad, but only use this argument against Messi, you know why? Because they performed consistently at the highest lvl and did the best for there club. Messi has basically joined different clubs as hes played under many managers and completely different players , but still outshines everyone hes played with. Shocking fact, did you know messi almost has the same amount of goals scored against the prems big 6(aka hardest league)while playing almost 3x the amount of games and only 2 goals behind Ronaldo, yet having more assist. Proving that hes still performs against the top teams better than Ronaldo. Your argument can also be counterd by Ronaldo is just more adaptable than Messi, which dosent automatically make him better but its a good attribute. Also Messi won the Ballandor while playing for Psg coming 3rd in most goals and having the most assist with 32 g/a in his 2nd season for psg
“Who?” “Your owner” Messi vs Ronaldo H2H stats (over 36 apps) Goals: Messi (22) > Ronaldo (21) Assists: Messi (12) > Ronaldo (1) 💀 G/a: Messi (34) > Ronaldo (22) Wins: Messi (16/35) > Ronaldo (11/35) All time stats (Messi 1047 apps vs Ronaldo 1204 apps) Goals: Messi (821) < Ronaldo (873) Assists: Messi (361) > Ronaldo (249) G/a: Messi (1182) > Ronaldo (1112) Trophies: Messi (44) > Ronaldo (35) Goals in Europe: Messi (704) > Ronaldo (701) Goals in Top 5 Leagues: Messi (496) > Ronaldo (495) UCL Goals: Messi: (129) < (140) Goals in domestic cups/domestic Super cups: Messi (71) > Ronaldo (6) International goals: Messi (106) < Ronaldo (128) International trophies: Messi (3) > Ronaldo (2) Ballon Dor: Messi (8) > Ronaldo (5) FIFA Best: Messi (3) > Ronaldo (2) World Cup Golden Ball: Messi (2) > Ronaldo (0) World Cup KO goals: Messi (5) > Ronaldo (0) Laureus Award: Messi (2) > Ronaldo (0) Messi wins 16-3 no diff 😹 I could keep going but I don’t want to insult Ronaldo further, respect both goats pls
You can watch an hour video of Messi’s assist and be in awe of his passing ability, his ability on making the defenders come to him while he dribbles them all to make space to a beautiful assist, or a crazy pass from far through the defenders, you can’t compare CR7 to Messi , that’s why Messi is the player with the most team trophies, superb goal scorer and amazing playmaker, a complete player one in a life time
Thing is, both Messi and Ronaldo have been miles above most other top players for years, and there's absolutely no doubt both of them deserve to be at the absolute pinnacle of footballing legends Yet, the truth is this: As good as Ronaldo has been, Messi has been even better. That is not a criticism of Ronaldo, but a compliment for Messi. Messi managed to win the Ballon D'or 8 times, despite having a beast like Ronaldo as his prime competitor. And if not for Messi, Ronaldo likely would've won a staggering 13 Ballon D'ors during his career. We've been blessed to live in such times
@@alimpy6162 cheat? Give me your sources and make a video yourself and try to be not biased. As the TH-camr was. The man was complimenting both sides. It's not his fault he had the facts on why Messi is a all round better player
@@ViscaBarca14 bro he didnt even put in the ucl matches, and he cut out someeee of the laliga matches, i counted, only reason im going on this rant is just because he said this will end the debait and he didnt even show all of the games, and its not hard to compliment while being biased
It is to say though that Ronaldo joined a very struggling Real Madrid side in 2009 that had lost in the UCL Ro16 5 times prior and brought them back to glory, while in 2009, Barcelona were at their all time best and that difference is clearly visible in the results of their fixtures early on. Numbers can be decisive and allthough Messi is absolutely crazy and destryoed Ronaldo's Real Madrid on a numeric level, it doesn’t paint the full picture of this rivalry because the most astonishing part was CR7s comeback. The way he brought Real Madrid back from their poorest form to la Decima and the threepeat and individually coming back down 3 Balon d'ors in 2012 to being level in 2018 is what made this rivalry the greatest of sports
I agree but lets not act like ronaldo joined a poor team. Even tho they hadn’t won ucl in a while, madrid was still one of the best clubs in the world. Look at clasicos before ronaldo joined. Absolutely insane team.
Never cared less for this debate. From the eye test. Messi had the ability to go head 2 head with Pelé & Maradona. With Cristiano. I didn't see anything in his abilities that cleared Cruyff, Zidane, R9, Dinho, to stand parity with Pelé & Maradona.
Barcelona had the better team, the better players, Messi was surrounded by all these world class players, Ronaldo had some amazing players among him as well but nothing compared to Barcelona but yet Ronaldo still delivered and carried the Real Madrid team that’s why I think that Ronaldo is truly amazing! (I’m not saying Ronaldo is better than Messi I’m just making a point people can think about)
No. The teams were pretty balanced. Infact ronaldo has never played with poor teammates until he went to man united on his second run and we know how that turned out. He needs service from teammates. Messi made a poor barca side win trophies almost all by himself. See how badly they’re struggling now even with better players
@@Ali-ov6my bro your making a fool out of yourself.. your the one thats acting delusional after messi literally won his 8th ballon dor like how much does it take to prove delusional ronaldo fans that messi is better then penaldo?
@@IlovefootballandLM10 and you're the one who's delusional if you think that a one club player is better than a player who has played in a 4 different clubs and in the same performance
Afterall messi is the greatest player to have ever lived, and ronaldo is the greatest goalscorer to have ever lived, both were a phenomenon and it was a blessing for us that we could watch them play... Both are excellent in their own way above anyone else... But as a messi fan, i gotta say messi comes at the top overall, but equal respects to ronaldo and his hard work
I disagree and would like u to hear my reasoning, if Messi didn't had his dribbling,his freekicks,passing then could he had competed with prime ronaldo? IDK but Ronaldo DID. He lost his dribbling, knuckleball freekick,and was practically useless at defence after that injury but he still was competing and sometimes beating prime messi. All while honing the single ability he still had, goal scoring and finishing to perfection. To me that's the greatest footballer ever.
Even tho there is a clear winner, he doesn't want to disappoint certain fan based, because despite the facts they just believe their favourite, they don't understand that their favourite is not the goat...
@@bunz9939 statistics and achievements aren't the only base on which we can declare someone the goat because they are playing in different environments with different opponents and different teammates
There never was a debate. Not really. Messi has always been levels above anyone else, there's no comparison. From the things Messi can do on a pitch, to his achievements, both individual and team based. CR fans are some of the most delusional people I've ever met, aside maybe from flat Earthers
@@Sajayyz Uh huh. Keep your head up your ass dude. Messi out matches CR in almost every way. But yea. It's the Messi fans that are delusional. Can I have some of what you're smoking please
There was no debate actually. Messi is much much much better than CR7 in all respect on the pitch and out of the pitch. CR7 is legend. But messi is like God came to this world to play football with us . CR7 must be happy as he is compared with the god.
Different positions. Different caliber players, different teams. Teams that played for each other vs a team that wants to out run another. Great players deserves all the respect for what they brought into the game. Still love Ronaldo more as he done it in all the leagues he played including the EPL.
Messi is a far better dribbler, he has far more vision than ronaldo, more agility, more balance, more close control on the ball...the only things ronaldo is better at heading and at using the week foot.
Great video. You're one of the best. Ronaldo is also a great, great player, but it's clear from this that Messi betters him. Debate is over. Ronaldo himself has said the rivalry is over.
The debate ended when first, Messi did a ballon d'Or 4peat & second, when he won the world cup to gain world cup parity with Pelé & Maradona. Messi also does more - Greatest dribbler of the ball I've seen. Eye of the needle passing assists, prolifc goalscorer, prolific consistent free kick conversions, superb playmaker. Cristiano is mostly a counter - attacking, prolific goalscorer. Fantastic at it. Especially in key UCL knock out matches. Appaling world cup CV.
Messi in his fifth best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7 in his best season and there is a consens among coaches that Messi is the best of his generation - that says it all. I have huge respect for CR7, like his amazing workethic and I think that he is definitely one of the best players oat, but everyone who thinks he is better or on the same level as Messi is not neutral or knows nothing about football
Ronaldo was never traated as the crutial part of winning in their plans, he was only known as a goal scorer because of what the club made him to be. We never knew what kind of player he could have been if he was loved and appreciated by the club and its member like prime barca
Oh please that's like the player who has had it more easy, his GOAT status is just based on goals many players can be like him, but rarely a player can be as wow as Messi ( Very complete)
only fans who thinks its a debate, he bag all that penalty , give Messi the same amount of penalty and penaldo will be nothing. That is why he choose saudi , why? so he can bag those money and penalties again and again and again, don’t believe me ? you must go and check for yourself.
Messi is the one an only Football Polymath. He's Grand mastered all the attacking facets at the highest levels of Club and International football. Though his stats are important, only the eye test can really truly show you that he's well ahead of the former Football GOAT's Di Stefano, Puskas, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Cruyff, Maradona, Romario, R9, Zidane or Ronaldinho.
During the Ronaldo-Messi era at Spain Messi won 7 league cups Ronaldo 2 I know those who will try to debunk my statement but "Real Madrid won 5 Champions leagues, 3 of those were very very controversial. I very much remember it. It was nothing sort of a day-light robbery. Its very sad how people will forget how they won it and just count their 14 UCL cups. Anyway the Big difference is Messi made Barca great and Real Madrid was already great before Ronaldo's arrival
still doesn’t change the fact that Magurie has more champions league goals than Rashford this season
Still doesn’t change the fact Rashford has scored more goals than you
@@6TheButcherhe’s trying to be funny and tell everyone who’s the real goat
@@6TheButcherstill doesn’t change the fact you’re meatriding
@@6TheButcher than you too
@@6TheButcherstill doesn’t change the fact y’all united fans are deranged, deluded cry babies
Argentina narrowly missed out on a spot in the 2006 World Cup semi final, if they had then Messi and CR7 would’ve faced each other in the 3rd place game.
Dang imagine 😮💨🔥
But Argentina has never lost a World Cup semifinal in the 93 years of the tournament, history dictates they wouldn't lose to Italy on that instance.
With all due respect , they weren't beating that Italian team , that defence was to strong and maldini was not even there@@BladeXRG
@@klif4755 in 1990 Italy reached the semifinals without conceeding any goals, and Argentina had barely made it out of the group stage in a group with Cameroon and Romania, and got to the semifinals scoring only four goals in five matches; what was arguibly the best defense in World Cup history lost to one of the most inconsistent Argentina squads at home. And fun fact, Italy has never even tied, let alone beat Argentina in the last 33 years; it's plausible that Riquelme, Tévez and Crespo could have knocked out Italy.
ok and? That doesn't mean much , just because they never lost a semifinal doesn't mean they were winning that one@@BladeXRG
A playmaker who scores more than the goalscorer there is no debate.
Now just call him a playmaker as if thats all he is, Theyre both playmakers and Goalscorers, This is a stupid comment
@@danielmagnos3768 Ronaldo ain't a playmaker he Job is not to create chances his Job is to finish The chances messis Job is to create chances for others
@@danielmagnos3768ronaldo's priority was to become the best, while messi's priority was to make his team the best. That guy (ronaldo) literally raged if his team won but he didn't score. How could you say he's a playmaker?
@@danielmagnos3768ronaldo aint no playmaker
@@wcapina1087u don’t know anything about football if u think creating space isn’t being a playmaker no defenders just watch him run behind the defence because someone else is controlling the ball for 3 seconds
I'm yet to see someone play like Messi,..he's sth we call DIFFERENT
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@@bigdaddygerono. Maradona didnt score many goals
@@bigdaddygero Maradonas highlights look similar but his statistics and trophies weren't even close to messis tally and messi did it for way longer than Maradona
@@wcapina1087maradona wasn’t maradona almost every game but messi was
@@darwinodriscoll7750 exactly
what a time to be alive, these guys are league above the rest
In only achievement and nothing more
an STILL both are above the rest
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074rewatch the entirety of football bro
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074 goals, assists, records
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074Beside all that trophies, Considering Footballing abilities Messi is Far away, just some levels above cr7. No other player comes close to Messi except cr7
That's a good representation of Messi and Ronaldo. Messi is both one of the best finishers, AND one of the greatest captain of the offense in terms of assisting others. Both Ronaldo and Messi had two of the top teams in football around them during their entire club careers until lately. I also must say that Messi is possibly the best dribbler the world has ever seen, going through several opponents like it was nothing, in his prime, sometimes 4 and 5 defenders at the same time!
I think Ronaldinho is the best dribbler the world has ever seen
@@jovanidivine5606 I disagree. I think Messi is the best dribbler in terms of efficiency and players dribbled past, while Ronaldinho was by far the most spectacular dribbler to watch
@@jovanidivine5606
Neymar is better in drible than Ronaldinho, imagine Messi, Ronaldinho has better skills, but he is definitely not the best dribbler
@@jovanidivine5606 You are almost right, he dusn't use his real name because there was and is only one Ronaldo.
Ronaldo was a better dribbler when he was just a talent as Ronaldinho is his prime.
@@giovannigio3764no I don’t think so. With the eye test you can easily see Ronaldinho wasn’t all fun and games. He actually tried to dribble past people
Man I will never forget those days of Messi vs Ronaldo el classico matches.😢 I’m so blessed to have been alive to watch these 2 goats play at the same exact time
Messi, the greatest creator of all time, outscored every goal scorer in the world for well over a decade straight. That defies logic. He was the complete package.
Ronaldo still has more goals
lol over 150 more games@@mr.spidey89
@@mr.spidey89 Messi has better scoring ratio
@@mr.spidey89agreed bro . Messi has more goals than Cristiano in Europe top 5 league . Messi has more goals and assist in Europe . That is fact . Saudi and MLS are retirement place and messi don't even care . Messi hunger has ended after winning wc because he completed his career. While ronaldo is still hungry because he want to win wc 2026 .
@@vibe7416 not my fault that Messi was good only wile playing in Barcelona, don’t justify his shortcomings that way
The difference is Messi can score 3 and feed 3 more to his teammate.. Ronaldo can't do that
Messi is so good that even if he doesn't score he can still give a MOM performance with his playmakings..
Ronaldo is great Goalscorer Messi is just complete package
You said it better.
No doubt 💀
Ronaldo in man utd, you havent seen him play huh
That’s until, cirstiano came back, plus Messi’s whole, career has ligit been in Barca ligit almost where he can easily assist players like Xavi, Puyol, Inesta, Neymar, Suearez, Pique and more, Ronaldo had to do it himself pretty much in Madrid, that’s why he was able to score more goals than Messi. If cirstiano had all those players to help him get assisted and get goals from, then what? Messi just had a better advantage just saying.
@@Yoyoyolosposkee hahaha bro go and watch how many chance's, through balls and passes Messi creates in every match..Messi literally made two of the greatest assists in last world cup..
"Messi,a playmaker with 800+ goals, a goal scorer with most assists"
He is a better creative midfielder than the best midfielders we have seen play the game, he literally controls the game
And this doesn’t even mention his dribbling.🐐
Messi is the best goal scorer of all time, if you don't believe me, check his stats at a thousand games. Why 1k games? Because that is an objective way to compare CR7 and Messi. He has more goals, more assists, more cups, more dribbles, more everything than CR7 at 1k games.
@@bensonchatfield4849yes bro absolutely messi is the greatest goal scorer ever , greatest assister ever , greatest dribbler ever and even in top 5 playmakers of all time , more trophies , more individual awards so what's the point of debate !?
@@bensonchatfield4849 And a lot more MOTMs and 10/10s
Messi is just a marvel to watch he does everything
Messi is honestly better and I'm a dieheart cr7 fan
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When we just look at them on social media we might feel that Ronaldo is a better player because of his physic, face, lifestyle, abs etc
But as soon as both of them touch the ball with their feet you can clearly see the difference about how far superior Messi is
You said it better.
ronaldo joined real madrid in 2009 and almost has the same amount of goals in el clasico while messi was there in barcelona
GOAT CR7
@@MJI409Messi became a starter in 08
He was 20
Messi was around good players if u swap messi to madrid and ronaldo to barc the same thing will have happened
@@rtqoh64 No, Messi started 23 matches in 06/07 and 23 matches in 07/08
*MATURITY IS WHEN YOU REALIZED, IT WAS NEVER A DEBATE* ✌🇮🇳
Exactly. Atleast WC settled it.
I matured very earky then. 2011 is when I stopped deluding myself.
I assume that you are a penaldo fan.....😂😂😂😂😂😂 from ---🇮🇳
@@diago4 wdym he is a Messi fan
@@diago4he means messi is goat and should not be compared to cr7
Brother didn’t mention Messi has 7 la la Liga 2 Ronaldo during this era
Ronaldo has 4 ucl during this era 😂😂
Messi has 4 and ronaldo 5 but where is the wc or 44 trophies @@therealflash405
@@therealflash405we’re any of those UCls against Messi? The one time CR7 bested Messi he didn’t even score or assist, Paul scholes scored a screamer. Since then Messi beat him TWICE on the biggest stage (UCL 2009, UCL 2011.. we’re talking about Messi vs Ronaldo not CR7 success with Madrid who had a world class team
@@moisesvirgen7711 like 5 other teams were class too if Messi was good he would have stayed in the ucl and carried his team, but I guess that’s not for everybody
@@therealflash405 he carried Barca even after neymar left.. did we forget 2019 where he almost single handedly took Barca to a final if it weren’t for that horrible 2nd leg. Messi was by far THE BEST player in the world, VVD was elite and so was CR7 but VVD was overhyped for that season. Like fr fr, I watched Liverpool from the beginning of the season and you can’t tell me that VVD was the main reason they got where they got. They had a world class Salah, world class mane and the whole team was in its prime. Unfortunately, they were only two season wonders, Messi on the other hand has carried abysmal Barcelona teams since the days of KOEMAN. Look at Barca now, they treat getting to the QF as success, without Messi they took a massive dive in quality. Look at Madrid, they went on to win another champions with a world class benzema leading the team. Just watch the teams now bro, and tell me which team misses Messi or Ronaldo more…. Who knows when Barca will be back to its former glory days, because since Messi left they’re basically arsenal level.
If there was ever a debate, it got completely destroyed after Messi leading Argentina to win the world cup, Ronaldo is not even in the top 3 list of the most winning players of all time, only Messi, Alves and Iniesta are leading that list, where is Ronaldo then? he is not even in the top 3 of the list.
Messi should have won at least 2-3 WCs considering his rating.
You are a moron if you think Argentina deserved that
So does that mean Alves and Iniesta are better than Ronaldo too? ☠️ The debate is much deeper than that lol
@@1channelHubthat makes no sense
Ur saying messi should win 3 wc cus of his stats?
Yup with 5x penalties
Messi : 44 Trophies
Ronaldo : 34 Trophies
Messi : 704 Europe goals in 853 games
Ronaldo : 701 Europe goals in 949 games
Messi : 303 Europe assists
Ronaldo : 201 Europe assists
Messi : 109 Penalty goals
Ronaldo : 164 Penalty goals
Messi : 62 Freekick goals
Ronaldo : 60 Freekick goals
Messi achievements :
8x Ballon d'Or
6x Golden boot
4x Fifa The Best
3x UEFA Best player in Europe
23x Top goalscorer
10x Player of the year
4x TM-Player of the season
1x World Cup
1x Copa America
1x Finalissima
4x Champions league
3x Fifa Club World Cup
10x Spanish Champion
2x French Champion
3x UEFA Super Cup
7x Spanish Cup
8x Spanish Super Cup
1x Leagues Cup
1x Under-20 World Cup
1x Conmebol-UEFA Cup of Champions
1x French Super Cup
1x Olympic Gold Medal
Ronaldo achievements :
5x Ballon d'Or
4x Golden boot
3x Fifa The Best
4x UEFA Best player in Europe
13x Footballer of the year
1x Fifa Puskás Award
20x Top goalscorer
9x Player of the year
3x TM-Player of the season
1x Euro
5x Champions league
4x Fifa Club World Cup
3x English Champion
2x Italian Champion
2x Spanish Champion
3x UEFA Super Cup
1x UEFA Nations league
1x English FA Cup
2x Spanish Cup
1x Italian Cup
2x English League Cup
2x Italian Super Cup
2x Spanish Super Cup
1x English Super Cup
1x Portuguese Super Cup
Keep barking Penaldo fans, Messi is better and will always be! 🇦🇷
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Bro really said imma end ronaldo fans whole career
@stefandobric-be7eh 2 copa america now
we all know Messi ballon d'ors were rigged at least 4 of them were
Its as simple as watching them play. Cristiano is not even close to Messi. I seriously don’t understand what joy Cristiano fans get from watching him. He does the same 2-3 moves every single time and touches the ball 10 times per game, sometimes less. Messi is all over the place delivering magic and style. Easy pick
Only people over the age of 14 know that messi is better most Ronaldo fans are either 9-12
@@Mayuravo i think the problem is also their nationalities. Lots of them come from countries with no football history and can’t tell the difference. They say Cristiano is a more complete player 🤦🏻♂️
It's simple. I like watching people score. Not assist
@@Sajayyz then you like Messi better. Half of cristianos goals are penalties and another third are rebounds and tap ins 😂
@@Martinbal126 but Messi will never achieve moments like "too far for Ronaldo to think about it" Ronaldo clears. I'm not with the repetitive dribble get close score
Messi is diffrent species 😈
FFS that debate ended when Messi was in his mid 20's
This debate only started because Ronaldo played for Madrid. They were never on a remotely similar level as players, Messi clears.
@@hiphopriffs7775 exactly but it ended in 2012 for me
@@shadow-man8715But ronaldo made a great comeback in 2016-18. Now its definitely over tho after Messi won the wc
@Rapidfire107 kid pessi is only Barcelona product because of Barcelona pessi is alive player even pessi has admitted.😂
@@hiphopriffs7775 and u kids think wc is everything but u didn't see how good was argentina and how bad is Portugal. Before pessi argentina won two wc and 14 cope america while without Ronaldo Portugal only 3 wc qualification. Ronaldo international>>>>> pessi international 😂 go watch football.
I mean messi is a greatest goalscorer (cuz messi has played 150 less game and still the goal difference is only about 30) , he is greatest assister ever, greatest dribbler ever and he is even in top 5 midfielders of all times, more individual awards, more man of the matches.. so how the hell this is even a debate?
Because penaldo hass 600 M followers and a six pack.. And kids nowads thinks he’s sigma😈😈😈👺👺👹👿
@@ganeshkps8727 Ronaldo is great he is the best striker for me but messi is way ahead of him he is complete footballer..
@@ganeshkps8727 😂😂
@@shiomgaming3600Messi is not a complete footballer he can't even do headers or skills, Ronaldo can do everything Messi can do an can't do he's not just a striker 😐
@@Ali-ov6my header? Bro wtf you have to do header.. header leads you to goal. And whats the point he cant do header if can still make the goals whit his leg.. And for your kind information messi can do header but you cr7 is better in terms of header but it doesn’t matter cuz in the end what matters is goal.. bro and you said about skill bro where are you watching football from? Messi cant do skills? Messi is better in ronaldo in terms of every skill except that bicycle.. the meatriding is crazy lamo
funny how people still make this a debate after 8 ballon dors and a world cup, go to sleep kids.
yea people just live delusional world
Average Ronaldo fans😂
@@Jessy777W average pessi fans won't know that he stole 3 ballon dor no robbery dors 2 from Ronaldo you are the ones and even he had a goal with a hand still Fife to find care you are piece of shut no comparison for the world's greatest
@@ViharTejarobbery is just a excuse real footballs fans don’t call messi pessi most real fans know ronaldo is fnished in arrogant
Do you even know Ronaldo not only did bro join Man Utd and got no love from Manchester united and was underperformed and also joined juventus and at the time the club was in shambles how bout u go to sleep😭😭
Messi🐐vs Cr7 head to head competitive games
(No friendlies obv😂)
16 Wins | 11 Wins
22 Goals | 21 Goals
142.7 Goals/ min | 143.0 Goals/ min
12 Assists | 1 assist
7/7 Pens | 6/7 Pens
1 Hattrick | 0 Hattricks
Bro wtf is thay u created the fucking states💀
Keep barking kid😂😂😂
@@Natsu16bro wtf make you so toxic?
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The MLS fans fill the stadiums with Messi jerseys on, they applaud and celebrate Messi whereas the Saudi league fans either don't show up or taunt Ronaldo with Messi chants. This shows how the Messi vs Ronaldo debate has been concluded.
SUCH BRAINLESS COMMENT ALHILAL FANS CHANT MESSI. THEY ALSO CHANTED RONALDO DURING MIAMI VS ALHILAL MWTCH. IN USA OPPONENT FANS HAVE DONE CR7 CHANTS TAUNTING MESSI ALSO A FAMOUS ATHLET MEANS AMERICAN FOOTBALKER DID SUII BEFOR LEO MATCH. 😂
The same MLS Fans of Montrey fc stepped on Messi Jersey when they lost in CONCACAF cup and Chanted Ronaldo name
Some of them even Hanged up his jersey over messi own
@@rogger972 and that one is a brainless comment
messi's assists are way better than ronaldo's tap in goals
Yeah we not talking about pessi tapins just ronaldo tapins
@@ShogunfollowerCk where were you born in a cave???
Tap ins are just another way to describe a decent goal💀🤦♂️
Every mf expects players to score from 40+ yards against a professional keeper(or its a "tap in") while the same mfs cant even score a pen against a professional keeper🤷♂️
Pathetic keyboard warriors...
@@Divandine-m4b no?
@@Divandine-m4b what I said was true u haven't watch messi games huh
sometimes it's not about who is better in footballs but their overall attitude which makes them worthy of being the goat
So messi
Messi is just the GAOT
The only thing Ronaldo matched with Messi was with his stats.
Rest when it comes to gameplay Messi was always ahead.
Messi 🐐
Ronaldo never matched Messi with his stats, except for goals alone. Watch the video again.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 yeah I mean Goals basically that's the only thing Ronaldo matched with Messi
@@Vipul6190 Even with goals, Messi is ahead. His goal ratio is higher than Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has more goals bc he's two years older. Messi also gave goal chances away, Ronaldo never did. Messi also holds the Guiness record for the most goals in a year, 91.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 ofc i know 😅
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Messi's overall goal ratio is better because when Ronaldo started he was a pure winger, so the 2 years older really doesn't make a difference. In Ronaldo's 9 years in LaLiga he had a better goal ratio than Messi.
Beautiful as always. Keep up the great content man!
This video shows That Messi’s Role is different from Ronaldo’s role 2nd Mangers played a big part in These player’s career pep found the meta of football while mourinho was trying to keep up both players Are 1 in a million however people Will have there different opinion you can’t take away that from the people. They both deserve to be called The Greatest of All Time.
I agree with you. For me I prefer Ronaldo, but can also see how Messi is great.
you guys are all fools, this idiot did not even show you guys all the matches XDXD why cheat??XDXD
agreed
Mourinho made pep leave Barcelona
I strongly disagree. Messi in his fifth best season was a better player than CR7 in his best season and there is a consens among coaches that Messi is the best of his generation.
CR7 is a great player and deserves massive respect, but everyone who thinks he is better or on the same level as Messi is not neutral or knows nothing about football.
I think people think that ronaldo is handsome than messi so he is a goat
Messi fans always says Messi is cute.
Exactly look at his assist numbers overall or in this comparison he is a complete footballer a playmaker a goal scorer a talent that will not be soon in near future he is special🦍
He used to play as a false nine
Creating chances is what makes you a playmaker not assists
@@nio3500 yes false 9 and rwf
@@everythingsfine1395 you think Messi doesn't create chances? Assist are chances successful that's why it's a goal and counted as an assist also Messi creates space for attackers by dividing defenders for spaces he is completely player
@@Menace.2.
Messi is the best playmaker to ever exist , i just told you
i'm always asking myself. why did no one ever analyse this debate in terms of ronaldo and messi playing as same as amount of games in each league they played. in my opinion. that is the best way to analyse this debate. if u do things like this. all u see is an overall outcome. not the detailed outcome like the one i suggest. for example. in la liga alone. messi played hundreds of games more than ronaldo played in laliga. u can compare it by reducing messi to ronaldo 200+ games in la liga and u can see that ronaldo still have higher goal ratio than messi in la liga . meaning ronaldo scores better even if messi played or not played more games than ronaldo in la liga. that is only one of the aspects tho. Many more things to take into account to...
True, lot of Messi fans don’t look into the details like this.
I like this video, it really captures the difference in playstyle
😂😂😂😂
No it doesn't, it is 100% biased, since it doesn't take into consideration that, the early Barca team is considered one of the best in history if not the best. Real Madrid team was not so good in those early years. They became better afterwards.
@@jcbones3098 ronaldo was in real mardrid in its prime now shush
@jcbones3098 Didn’t they have Pepe, Sergio Ramos, & Marcelo on their team?
@@aweeb229 Yes they did, and you can add Kaka to that list also. Barca also had very good players. BUT AS A TEAM, BARCA WAS BETTER HANDS DOWN. You had enough Barca players that grew up playing together, they understood the system they were playing and that created a great team. They added a couple of pieces from outside their system and WHALA.
Both great players. Ronaldo does incredible things like scoring, aerial assault, acrobatic kicks, positioning for a finish etc. We've seen these feats from the likes of Eto, Shevchenko, Henry, R9, Van Basten, etc. The things Messi does are all of the above (minus headers and much athleticism), plus he does things you have rarely seen b4 on a regular basis. Just an opinion.
thats not opinion, thats a fact. there are video how mourinho stop messi when hes coaching inter. obi also explain that stopping messi and barca incredibly difficult. theyre all involving multiple players to stop messi since 1v1 him almost guarantee lose and he will solo your defese, if commiting too many players messi could spot his teammate and deliver killer pass.
ronaldo is different, just assign world class defender to deal with him and you got good chances to stop ronaldo or at least stall him enough to reorganize defense. ashley cole is the most successful, dani alves does very good and puyol did decent dueling with ronaldo. ferguson did this to messi using park ji sung. messi walk over him almost whole match.
@@ルリ-ruri First off, that early Barcelona team is considered one of the best teams in the history of the sport. So you really can't say it was Messi vs Ronaldo. It was Barcelona vs a Real Madrid team that at that time was not so great, but Ronaldo still managed to find the back of the net a decent amount of times. And I find it funny how you say just assign a World Class defender to deal with Ronaldo. First off, how many world class defenders are there, I guess not many because Ronaldo has scored an unbelievable amount of goals. Also if Messi is so unstoppable how come he usually did most of his damage in the group stages of the Champions league when they are facing lesser competition. Even the world cup 2014 he did nothing after the group stage but ONE assist, and this is when he was in his prime.
@@jcbones3098 Messi was more effective in the group stages but it so not say that he was not in the knock outs. Definitely i would say cr7 is better in ucl because of his legacy, but overall bigger big game player is messi. He has the most goals in finals, insane record against english top 6 without playing in the prem, only player to get 10/10 rating in a ucl final, scored in each knock out stage of the WC plus a brace in the final at 35, most goals in a single champions league game, more goals that ronaldo in major international tournaments, most goals against the greatest club off all time, i can go on forever. While i list these I do not want to undermine cr7, hes insane and the best in many aspects, but in big games and being the GOAT of the sport, he is 2nd to messi. And there is nothing wrong with that.
@@sharankopal6662 Dude Messi is a great player, BUT In big games that is Ronaldo's territory. Look up what Maradona said about Messi, how he couldn't handle big games, and would vomit multiple times. Ronaldo lives for the big game, and has come through many times in big games. Also player ratings is subjective and dont' mean sh*t to me. Just like he won the best player award in 2014 world cup and didn't deserve it. He scored all his goals in the group stage and only had one assist after. Yet Argentina reached the finals, but lost to Germany. When Maradona was asked how could this be, he shrugged it off and said he got the award because of marketing.
@@jcbones3098 if youre smart enough i actually explain messi and ronaldo abilities as individual. Messi always had more option due to his ability to get past defender + finish by himself and world class playmaking. Foul him in dangerous area isnt good either since hes fk master.
Also are you kidding me? Real isnt good that time? Real madrid on paper better than barca. The el clasico comentator even said so. Talent to talent comparison wise real madrid never weaker than barca even on their golden age. Barca seems better because messi and pep is there.
There actually lots of world class defender back in the day. Almost every major club got some of them. Nesta, maldini, materazzi, zanetti, rio, vidic, terry, cavarlho, ashley cole, ramos, pepe, marcelo, alves etc. quality standard of a player at that time simply higher compared to today.
It's sad that you don't get enough views, keep going mate, good luck.
all in due time. thanks very much for the kind words
This debate ended in 2022 when Messi won the world cup and a final conclusion was added when he won the 8th ballon d'Or and now his on the 3rd place for the IFFH player of the year 2023🎉
the debate ended in 2010 because by then anyone who actually watched football knew who was the greatest of all time
@Jokerxeno1 agreed. By 2009 even Xavi barcelona future captain called it that Ronaldo is better and wishes he came to barca
by 2012!!
Nah. If cr7 scored 1 gosl in wc knock-out stage in 2026 wc. He will surpass messi according to his fans.
@@imaxtranhvac-rdienlanhusa9822he already surpassed him and everyone knows it except messi fans. Even Xavi, Barcelona legend said that in 2009! during messi peak xd
Great one my guy. Messi was always better at playing football, and Ronaldo was a complete FOOTBALLER.
You mean complete goal scorer
how do you understand COMPLETE FOOTBALLER???😂
People who say CR is a complete footballer are delusional. Objectively, CR is very much a one dimensional player. He's a goal scorer and that's it. He has nothing else to offer. Messi on the other hand has sooo much more to offer his teams than scoring goals. CR fans are the most delusional people that exist
@@choosetolivefreeLOL the entire game of football since it’s existed thousands of years ago is…to score goals. CR7 Is the best at it so by default he’s the best of all time, it’s very simple really.
@@Jordan-gi5hq0 football knowledge
The days when elclassico felt like a ucl final
I don't know why people debeat about the messi vs ronaldo topic.but here my thought about them
1.messi play for a better national team that's why he won world cup
2.people think playmaker is all about dribbling but not
3.enjoy the messi vs ronlado topic
In the end we never see two players like them
Ya correct bro, we should enjoy their contribution to football rather than comparing them.
Just one correction to you. If in 2022 messi had a good national team then in 2006 ronaldo also had a good national team with louis figo and deco. Still he failed to win it. Not comparing but you can't take messi's achivement like this.
@@umangnishantsinha2435 yep you right about it but also he is very young that time so it's hard for him .
imagine being so deluded.you say messi plays for a better national team but didn't we saw in that wc portugal had a better team ?what's the point of enjoying if we can't decide who is the goat?that means it's clearly time wasting.messi vs ronaldo topic comes up with a purpose that who is the goat.if your thinking just enjoy than i will kindly tell you(NO ONE WILL ENJOY IF THERE IS NO MEANING),in the end putting all things together like stats,eye test,both ablities(Goalscoring,Playmaking) and with deep analylizing.we can come at one point that messi is the goat if we think with logic and deep understanding.
By that logic, Ronaldo should not have won 2016 Euro then
Is Morocco better than Portugal ❓🤡 any pendu kids answer this question?????
After a lot of thinking I've come to the final opinion that it's best to appreciate these two. Both of them share common traits that made them serial winners and record-breakers. But they implement it differently, Messi does it through visionary playmaking, whereas Cristiano does it through explosive goalscoring. Both of them have their weaknesses due to their physiques, Messi can't score headers the way Cristiano does and Cristiano can't dribble the way Messi does. I'm sure a similar conclusion can be reached when talking about their mentalities. At the end of the day, the two of them needed each other because they would've ended up being another Eden Hazard and Gareth Bale, which is still amazing but never in the GOAT conversation. It's going to be a sad day for World Football when these two hang their boots.
@Orideo 2nd best. I put Ronaldo (El Fenomeno) before him because he dribbled like or better than Messi despite being 6 ft tall.
@Orideo Please watch his highlight goal against Compostela.
Messi does it all the time@@beegbeeg9871
Yeah it has always been like that but messi after winning the world cup and being the best player in the wc and finishing with 8 ballon dors and 6 golden boots just clears ronaldo. A diehard football fan can appreciate them both but messi is the real winner here.
@@Mango1234-k1u Tbf he won two of those ballon d'ors because he is MESSI. Lewa and Halland deserved two but I would rather not debate. He won the wc potm after scoring 6 penalties lost one match vs Saudi Arabia while Mbappe had more goals than him and same assist with less penalties. Messi was given the potm in 2014 wc as a consolation prize as he lost the final marginally because he had 4 ballon d'or before that final. Ronaldo was not given the ballon d'or even after he was the better player than Modric in 2018 just because his team didn't reach the world cup final. Well he is the highest goal scorer this year while he is 38. But I still think Messi was a marginally better player. It's still debatable after how many penalties he got in the world cup, it was like he was playing in the home grounds. Well he has great fans. Respect to both of them.
Unfair comparison
One guy is a targetman
Other is a playmaker
But why the playmaker guy has more goals 😂
messi vs ronaldo debate only existed because of stats, anyone who who says they prefer ronaldo over messi clearly havent watched a full 90 min match in their life.
@titanium6016adapt . How much time you want to adapt . In UCL Madrid is superior everyone know . But in 9 years in Spain ronaldo won only two laliga .
@titanium6016 one club wonder 😂😂 . In PSG Messi plays as a midfielder not a attacker . Mhbappe plays as attacker . Then also won wc after going to PSG . Your greatest goal scorer didn't even have single goal in wc knockout match . We know who Is real fraud . Messi have 16 goals and 16 assist in his second season in PSG after having bad season .
@titanium6016 😂😂 one club wonder Messi has more golden boot than great Ronaldo . Great Ronaldo has 4 UCL in Madrid but just won 2 laliga in 9 years .
@@atuljha438 I am pretty sure he played RW at PSG as well, his heatmaps also indicate the same.
I love both Messi and Ronaldo as players, but by simple math and logic Messi had better stats on everything
Yep!
Goals ???
@@Ali-ov6myThere is an age difference so we wouod have to wait until the end of their careers.
@@wyatt6105 nah that's not an excuse, Ronaldo was a midfielder for like 4 years, he didn't even score 20 goals, even so still stats is not everything
@@wyatt6105 Even Ronaldo's method of winning awards and increasing his numbers was much more difficult, because his numbers were not just "numbers." His goals and assists, most of which were important and benefited the teams he was playing with in winning trophies or saves his team. Messi, most of his numbers are just numbers, not all of them, but most of them, and to prove My words, I will mention Messi 2012, literally, his statistics were useless, just numbers
Lets forget abt the messi and ronaldo debate for a second. Real madrid having arguably the best defense of the time was conceding the exact same goal over and over again
Can people stop hyping Madrid defense already? The central backs were thugs who lacked tact, calmness and composure, just playing dangerously and that’s what Messi likes so he fucked them over and over again.
@@nathanakobe5304 Fax 😂
@@nathanakobe5304 And so did other team because when Messi here everyone panic. They even tried to injure Messi....
best defense, Ramos, Pepe, Casemiro, Marcelo, etc. Thugs.
@@nathanakobe5304 Yes!!!!
Messi has always been better.. ronaldo is just more marketable on a business perspective..
Respect to Both the GOATs
CR7 and Messi ❤️🐐🔥
There can be only one GOAT
@@Mrdipbhaiwho is the ball which they scored the most 😂😂
@@PrashantTamang-tj4gq ??
@@Mrdipbhai the only goat is the football which they scored the most
@@PrashantTamang-tj4gq nope Ronaldo has more goals because he played more matches, messi has better goal per match ratio, and overall messi is way better than Ronaldo according to statistics
How can people still compare Messi and Ronaldo… Messi is simply better 🐐
i don’t get it either
Messi was, is, and will always be the GOAT
😂😂😂😂 still the Ronaldo fans will say It's Ronaldo, but I respect that ,because that's being a true fan 🔥🔥🔥 respect for both sides .
Because Ronaldo was in a struggling rma ata the start and still has almost same laliga goals as messi who was in ucl winning team
@@syed1721 That lame excuse again. Like Barca didn’t go through the same thing. Ronaldo payed with world class players & under world class coach throughout his career compared to Messi.
Messi is just better deal with it.
I understand debate can be interesting, but also don't try to kill yourself by proving your points. You lose the argument when you insult your competitor.
@@JF.. Messi had guardiola who has backed him and built a team around him. You can't find a midfield duo like Xavi-Iniesta anymore.
@@gongtaumaster-h9t Like you knew xavi and Iniesta before Pep guardiola. People tend to forget Xavi, Iniesta, Sergio Busquets etc became household names under guardiola who was a rookie at the time. Whereas Madrid had José Mourinho who was already a champions league winner, made name in England and Portugal. Madrid always had great players and great coaches and to this day. Madrid is known worldwide for signing super players more than any other club in Europe. They even signed Luís Figo from Barcelona. Ronaldo played with the best coaches and players compared to Messi. Players who already made name for themselves, like World Cup winners, UEFA champions league winners and the Ballon d'Or. Starting with Alex Ferguson and his Manchester United squad back in 2001-2009 before joining Madrid at age 24.
At Madrid Ronaldo played with midfielders like, Xabi Alonso, Toni Kroos, Luka Modrić, etc now go back and research the whole Madrid team, Manchester United team he played with and Juventus. Ronaldo played with Kaka, Bale, Pepe, Ryan gigs, angel dimari, karim Benzema, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Ricardo Carvalho, Paul scholes, vidic, Rio Ferdinand, like i could go on for days. Most of these players pick Messi over Ronaldo as the GOAT. I have been watching the beautiful game since the early 80s. I saw these things with my own eyes. Nobody cared about Barcelona after Ronaldinho left, infact we all thought Pep would fail because he was a ROOKIE at the time but somehow he created a team. Pep started gaining popularity after the win against Manchester United in the champions league whereas football fans around the World always knew Messi was special even before Pep. Go back and watch the FIFA World Youth Championship, watch every match he played and the final against Nigeria. He was the top scorer in that tournament btw. R9 and Maradona are my favorites but even i know Messi is the GOAT.
I have always known that Messi is the better player and so shall it be, but remember that Ronaldo came to a new team and you wouldn't expect him to immediately fit in and compete with Messi who grew up within his team. Ronaldo is a hard worker, a competitor and a role model, if you need inspiration even beyond football, look to Ronaldo. Messi is Goat but CR7 deserves respect for challenging him.
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My respect
He is only a role model and hard worker in football bro he is doing all those because of football and mind u apart from football what else because he is not even married all his children are bastard so his hard work and role Modelling is limited only in the beautiful game of football
as a madridista .. is there anything to judge based on head to head numbers that u provided ?
But if it is a highstake match a do or die situation...need someone who can be banked on...cr7 undeniably comes out top...compare the ucl knockouts stats between the two
I feel messi is defitely the better player, but cr7 is the more reliable and more versatile in finding ways of scoring
This debate has been over for a few years now
This was the best debate in 2018 they were basically the same in everything
Anyone who says ronaldo is the goat at this point are just glazers
true
There's never been a debate 😂 not even close
your right
it was never a debate. it just a forced debate by pendu fans
Messi won the ballon d'or for his performance for the 2022/ 2023 season . Nothing to do with stats of any other years played ,so wtf do you know about awards or even football?!! You need to study it a little more to be able to judge any player ,mister who ??!!
Messi was Always clear of Ronaldo lol (no disrespect) but we know who the goat is
Ronaldo bec he has always been at a disadvantage
Messi
@@syed1721 lol ,he always played at the top teams in every leagues. Man u, Madrid, Juventus,al Nasser .
So why has your idol failed outside of Barcelona ? Especially when he joined PSG when he had that disastrous first season with 6 goals in all competitions? Ronaldo has succeeded in other teams and in the Premier League (the toughest league in the world) while Messi failed outside of Barcelona at club level. That is definitely not a goat by any means.
@@xAmiin That argument is really trash for 2 things one, no one talks bad about Paulo Maldini, Francisco totti, Gerd Muller, Pele, Ryan Giggs, Steven Gerrad, but only use this argument against Messi, you know why? Because they performed consistently at the highest lvl and did the best for there club. Messi has basically joined different clubs as hes played under many managers and completely different players , but still outshines everyone hes played with. Shocking fact, did you know messi almost has the same amount of goals scored against the prems big 6(aka hardest league)while playing almost 3x the amount of games and only 2 goals behind Ronaldo, yet having more assist. Proving that hes still performs against the top teams better than Ronaldo. Your argument can also be counterd by Ronaldo is just more adaptable than Messi, which dosent automatically make him better but its a good attribute. Also Messi won the Ballandor while playing for Psg coming 3rd in most goals and having the most assist with 32 g/a in his 2nd season for psg
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Messi vs Ronaldo H2H stats (over 36 apps)
Goals: Messi (22) > Ronaldo (21)
Assists: Messi (12) > Ronaldo (1) 💀
G/a: Messi (34) > Ronaldo (22)
Wins: Messi (16/35) > Ronaldo (11/35)
All time stats (Messi 1047 apps vs Ronaldo 1204 apps)
Goals: Messi (821) < Ronaldo (873)
Assists: Messi (361) > Ronaldo (249)
G/a: Messi (1182) > Ronaldo (1112)
Trophies: Messi (44) > Ronaldo (35)
Goals in Europe: Messi (704) > Ronaldo (701)
Goals in Top 5 Leagues: Messi (496) > Ronaldo (495)
UCL Goals: Messi: (129) < (140)
Goals in domestic cups/domestic Super cups: Messi (71) > Ronaldo (6)
International goals: Messi (106) < Ronaldo (128)
International trophies: Messi (3) > Ronaldo (2)
Ballon Dor: Messi (8) > Ronaldo (5)
FIFA Best: Messi (3) > Ronaldo (2)
World Cup Golden Ball: Messi (2) > Ronaldo (0)
World Cup KO goals: Messi (5) > Ronaldo (0)
Laureus Award: Messi (2) > Ronaldo (0)
Messi wins 16-3 no diff 😹 I could keep going but I don’t want to insult Ronaldo further, respect both goats pls
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Pessi
@@Mrlandeditz01L 5 YEAR OLD KID WHO CAN'T SPELL MESSI WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB GO LEARN HOW TO WRITE AND SPELL 😂😂😂😂😂
Fax
@@Mrlandeditz01better than penaldog
You can watch an hour video of Messi’s assist and be in awe of his passing ability, his ability on making the defenders come to him while he dribbles them all to make space to a beautiful assist, or a crazy pass from far through the defenders, you can’t compare CR7 to Messi , that’s why Messi is the player with the most team trophies, superb goal scorer and amazing playmaker, a complete player one in a life time
@@guarapo66 bro really said a complete player 😂
How on earth we’re still debating this… we can’t compare a goal scorer to a best player who has bigger influence in the game.
The whole point of the game is to Score goals 😂
Some can argue who was the best, but we can agree that nobody else were even close to reach the stats of these two. A great rivalry.
Lionelmessi is the best all time greatest versatile unbeatable football player in the world all the best #LM10.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thing is, both Messi and Ronaldo have been miles above most other top players for years, and there's absolutely no doubt both of them deserve to be at the absolute pinnacle of footballing legends
Yet, the truth is this: As good as Ronaldo has been, Messi has been even better. That is not a criticism of Ronaldo, but a compliment for Messi. Messi managed to win the Ballon D'or 8 times, despite having a beast like Ronaldo as his prime competitor. And if not for Messi, Ronaldo likely would've won a staggering 13 Ballon D'ors during his career.
We've been blessed to live in such times
messi era vs ronaldo might be the craziest ere ever snd the best one
Nice vid! Really fair analysis and great storytelling
you guys are all fools, this idiot did not even show you guys all the matches XDXD why cheat??XDXD
@@alimpy6162 cheat? Give me your sources and make a video yourself and try to be not biased. As the TH-camr was. The man was complimenting both sides. It's not his fault he had the facts on why Messi is a all round better player
@@ViscaBarca14 bro he didnt even put in the ucl matches, and he cut out someeee of the laliga matches, i counted, only reason im going on this rant is just because he said this will end the debait and he didnt even show all of the games, and its not hard to compliment while being biased
@@alimpy6162 He's not being biased. And obviously Messi is better lol
@@alimpy6162 Lol check the google kiddo, Messi have more wins,goals,assist, g/a against Ronaldo 😂
It is to say though that Ronaldo joined a very struggling Real Madrid side in 2009 that had lost in the UCL Ro16 5 times prior and brought them back to glory, while in 2009, Barcelona were at their all time best and that difference is clearly visible in the results of their fixtures early on. Numbers can be decisive and allthough Messi is absolutely crazy and destryoed Ronaldo's Real Madrid on a numeric level, it doesn’t paint the full picture of this rivalry because the most astonishing part was CR7s comeback. The way he brought Real Madrid back from their poorest form to la Decima and the threepeat and individually coming back down 3 Balon d'ors in 2012 to being level in 2018 is what made this rivalry the greatest of sports
I agree but lets not act like ronaldo joined a poor team. Even tho they hadn’t won ucl in a while, madrid was still one of the best clubs in the world. Look at clasicos before ronaldo joined. Absolutely insane team.
currently messi's physicality and speed dropped to zero, he can barley move his body, while ronaldo still perform at a top level...
This has to be a joke
Bro how much time did you invest making this video 😅❤
I hope their rivalry continues for years to come. Neither would have accomplished as much as they have without the other.
It’s over so get used to it
Benzema missed almost 20 assist goals from Ronaldo when he was in Real Madrid this also made him look low in assists than Messi
just like how ronaldo almost won the 22 world cup?????
So your saying messi teamates never missed?🤡
@titanium6016bro compared a puskas to a world cup 😂
@titanium6016but then when we ask you who’s better you say madrid
@titanium6016 no proof it’s gifted your just mad and need to cope at the fact that messi is clear
Never cared less for this debate. From the eye test. Messi had the ability to go head 2 head with Pelé & Maradona. With Cristiano. I didn't see anything in his abilities that cleared Cruyff, Zidane, R9, Dinho, to stand parity with Pelé & Maradona.
@@johnpacino007 you need to check your eyes my guy
@@Ali-ov6my You need to take your own advice if you think Cristiano on field football cleared the players i listed🙅♂️
@@johnpacino007 he really did
love both of these legends. Im so happy i was alive to watch their careers
Messi is the greatest of all time, he is the goat and he is the God of football 🐐
Barcelona had the better team, the better players, Messi was surrounded by all these world class players, Ronaldo had some amazing players among him as well but nothing compared to Barcelona but yet Ronaldo still delivered and carried the Real Madrid team that’s why I think that Ronaldo is truly amazing! (I’m not saying Ronaldo is better than Messi I’m just making a point people can think about)
Talent for talent the players that they were surrounded by were pretty much equal. The difference was the talent that Messi had
No. The teams were pretty balanced. Infact ronaldo has never played with poor teammates until he went to man united on his second run and we know how that turned out. He needs service from teammates. Messi made a poor barca side win trophies almost all by himself. See how badly they’re struggling now even with better players
is it harder to start n prove urself as a youngster for a star-studded barca or a rookie sporting league outside europes top leagues?
No bro. Ronaldo had prime man utd and prime rma with him
@@KD-yb4xu not it wasn't, it was barcas better defence you deluded sped
If you thought ronaldo was better at any point after 2018 you are so delusional
I think you're the only one who is delusional
@@Ali-ov6my bro your making a fool out of yourself.. your the one thats acting delusional after messi literally won his 8th ballon dor like how much does it take to prove delusional ronaldo fans that messi is better then penaldo?
@@IlovefootballandLM10 the 8th ballon d'or Messi didn't deserve it at all, nothing of this shit proves that pessi is better than Ronaldo
@@IlovefootballandLM10 and you're the one who's delusional if you think that a one club player is better than a player who has played in a 4 different clubs and in the same performance
@@Ali-ov6my wow.. now actually use statistics to prove that pendulum better then Messi then… like the one in the video
They both dance for the last time in Feb, 2024 😢❤
Afterall messi is the greatest player to have ever lived, and ronaldo is the greatest goalscorer to have ever lived, both were a phenomenon and it was a blessing for us that we could watch them play... Both are excellent in their own way above anyone else... But as a messi fan, i gotta say messi comes at the top overall, but equal respects to ronaldo and his hard work
I disagree and would like u to hear my reasoning, if Messi didn't had his dribbling,his freekicks,passing then could he had competed with prime ronaldo? IDK but Ronaldo DID.
He lost his dribbling, knuckleball freekick,and was practically useless at defence after that injury but he still was competing and sometimes beating prime messi.
All while honing the single ability he still had, goal scoring and finishing to perfection.
To me that's the greatest footballer ever.
Title :
Him at the end of the video : “I’ll let you be the judge”.
Even tho there is a clear winner, he doesn't want to disappoint certain fan based, because despite the facts they just believe their favourite, they don't understand that their favourite is not the goat...
@@EXIOO_1 then change the title
@@Sportstop300 you are saying as if I uploaded the video,...
@@EXIOO_1 You are not "him"
@@Sportstop300 that's what I said bro, just indirectly..
Yes this video is very good but how did the debate of messi vs ronaldo end with this video? Can anyone explain ?!
debate ends with statistics + achievement.
@@bunz9939 statistics and achievements aren't the only base on which we can declare someone the goat because they are playing in different environments with different opponents and different teammates
There never was a debate. Not really. Messi has always been levels above anyone else, there's no comparison. From the things Messi can do on a pitch, to his achievements, both individual and team based. CR fans are some of the most delusional people I've ever met, aside maybe from flat Earthers
@@choosetolivefreethis disproves ur argument and proves that Messi fans are delusional
@@Sajayyz Uh huh. Keep your head up your ass dude. Messi out matches CR in almost every way. But yea. It's the Messi fans that are delusional. Can I have some of what you're smoking please
*MESSI IS THE GOD OF FOOTBALL*
There was no debate actually. Messi is much much much better than CR7 in all respect on the pitch and out of the pitch. CR7 is legend. But messi is like God came to this world to play football with us . CR7 must be happy as he is compared with the god.
Different positions. Different caliber players, different teams. Teams that played for each other vs a team that wants to out run another. Great players deserves all the respect for what they brought into the game. Still love Ronaldo more as he done it in all the leagues he played including the EPL.
Messi has always performed better
Messi is clear.
CR7 is not even the best Ronaldo
Blud is joking 😃🤡
Cristiano Ronaldo is better than any Ronaldo nazario
There's no debate 🤡✌️
thats just simply hating my brother
@@GamingWithBenjamin7 “bisexual slay” yeah your opinions irrelevant
@@ananya4525 Not hating whatsoever, you’re probably too young to have even watch R9 play.
@@Jay-vt4uv 😂😂😂 whatever just accept the truth and get on with your life
Peace 🕊️
The debate ended when messi won the WC
it ended before that
With the help of penalties 😅
@@ShikhaSukhall derseves penalties
Messi is a far better dribbler, he has far more vision than ronaldo, more agility, more balance, more close control on the ball...the only things ronaldo is better at heading and at using the week foot.
Great video. You're one of the best. Ronaldo is also a great, great player, but it's clear from this that Messi betters him. Debate is over. Ronaldo himself has said the rivalry is over.
The debate ended when first, Messi did a ballon d'Or 4peat & second, when he won the world cup to gain world cup parity with Pelé & Maradona. Messi also does more - Greatest dribbler of the ball I've seen. Eye of the needle passing assists, prolifc goalscorer, prolific consistent free kick conversions, superb playmaker. Cristiano is mostly a counter - attacking, prolific goalscorer. Fantastic at it. Especially in key UCL knock out matches. Appaling world cup CV.
Messi in his fifth best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7 in his best season and there is a consens among coaches that Messi is the best of his generation - that says it all.
I have huge respect for CR7, like his amazing workethic and I think that he is definitely one of the best players oat, but everyone who thinks he is better or on the same level as Messi is not neutral or knows nothing about football
Messi 2018/19 doesn't come close to even 2016/17(8th best season)
Please elaborate on how Messi 5th best season is better than Ronaldo best season
@@cr7hd162 Tell me Ronaldos 3 best seasons
Ronaldo was never traated as the crutial part of winning in their plans, he was only known as a goal scorer because of what the club made him to be. We never knew what kind of player he could have been if he was loved and appreciated by the club and its member like prime barca
True
Thank you for saying the truth 👏👏👏
Oh please that's like the player who has had it more easy, his GOAT status is just based on goals many players can be like him, but rarely a player can be as wow as Messi ( Very complete)
He actually, hence the comparison.
@@omarserrano5865 yes. in 2014 2018 period.
only fans who thinks its a debate, he bag all that penalty , give Messi the same amount of penalty and penaldo will be nothing. That is why he choose saudi , why? so he can bag those money and penalties again and again and again, don’t believe me ? you must go and check for yourself.
yep
Messi is the one an only Football Polymath.
He's Grand mastered all the attacking facets at the highest levels of Club and International football.
Though his stats are important, only the eye test can really truly show you that he's well ahead of the former Football GOAT's Di Stefano, Puskas, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Cruyff, Maradona, Romario, R9, Zidane or Ronaldinho.
Ronaldos goals are so much more special. The debate is over yeah , Ronaldo is better
Nice one
But you Forgot to Add the PSG vs Al nasrr Match
PSG won 5-4
Messi scored 1 and Assisted 1
Ronaldo scored 2 and Assisted 1
no one cares about that bruh
@@captainfalconmain6576 like i asked for your opinon
It ended in 2012 but if some people want to lie to themselves
yep real fans know it’s messi most cr7 fans just like him because he’s looks pretty
Who has more European golden boot?
Who has more MOTM?
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Maybe cause he’s played 200 more games?
During the Ronaldo-Messi era at Spain
Messi won 7 league cups
Ronaldo 2
I know those who will try to debunk my statement but "Real Madrid won 5 Champions leagues, 3 of those were very very controversial. I very much remember it. It was nothing sort of a day-light robbery. Its very sad how people will forget how they won it and just count their 14 UCL cups.
Anyway the Big difference is Messi made Barca great and Real Madrid was already great before Ronaldo's arrival
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Messi 🐐. Its not a debate anymore bc Messi won the World Cup. Ronaldo is one of the greatest but not the goat
yep 👍
The stats said it, the players said it, the pitch said it, the play style said it... Only Ronaldo fans can't hear it !
The debate ended in 2008 when messi faced man united in the champions league...get over CR7 fans...
2009* and It wasn't Ronaldo's fault, and in 2008 man united have won against Barcelona 😐
@@Ali-ov6myit wasn't Ronaldo's fault, but Messi's brilliance. That shows who's better doesn't it?
@@Ali-ov6myyea messi insane performance was his fault 😂
@@ItzzAlan Messi's what ??? It was pep's brilliance , and really you're talking like that Ronaldo didn't win against Messi before 😂😂😂😂
@@Whynotbro-c9l insane performance? You mean the lucky Header ? Yeah right
Messi is a goat
Messi will always be better than Ronaldo but Ronaldo is hardworking 💥
So?
@@joelsebastian9096 so messi is better than Ronaldo
10:34 yall have to admit that assist is fire 🔥
No doubt they both still entertain our generation 😊❤