Chops Garage pt2: Daihatsu YRV Turbo 130! Could it tempt me? (Surprising conclusion)
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- I didn't buy the @ChopsGarage Nissan Micra, but what did I make of this lunatic Japanese turbocharged mini people carrier thing? Yes, it's a Daihatsu YRV Turbo 130 with compulsory automatic - with steering wheel gearchange buttons! Would this be the car for me?
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"2 Firm 2 Crashy", coming to a cinema near you soon.....
Oh I can remember that feeling in a hot hatch when you realise that you have outgrown the experience and prefer comfort and lazy power . Betty has spoilt you !
The YRV Turbo only comes with auto box is simply because no Daihatsu manual box at that time can handle the torque of this K3-VET turbo engine.
Back in my hometown Hong Kong I know some guys actually swapped manual gearbox into these or in the other way around, swapping the turbo engine into a manual Sirion (Yes YRV, Sirion and Cuore are using the same platform and their mechanical components are interchangeable), eventually the manual box will blow especially if driven hard.
Yet I believe the engine is closely related to the Glanza, which was available with a manual...
@@HubNut Starlet Glanza uses the 4E-FTE engine while YRV Turbo is using the K3-VET engine. There are obvious differences between the two such as 4E-FTE is cam belt driven while K3-VET is chain driven.
Actually YRV turbo’s engine is much more related to 1st gen Yaris rather than to Glanza. And this turbo engine is exclusively developed and used on YRV Turbo from factory. Daihatsu seemed to love doing crazy stuffs during that era, the most famous one was the Storia X4(1st gen Sirion in JDM form) which has a 713cc engine (developed from their Kei car engine) with a huge turbo putting out 120ps.
I used that car and loved that car. The reason it's switching to automatic is this: You are forgetting to lower the gear when it is time to do so. It's fun to delay switching to a higher gear reaching higher RPMs but everyone forgets to lower the gear and that's when the car takes over.
Also, you missed all the fun bits about that transmission. You should have floored it when it was cruising at 4th gear at around 45 km/h and watch it switch directly to 1st gear from 4th and give you some serious acceleration. Or reaching to 120 kmh in 2nd and 190 kmh in 3rd gear. One of the most fun cars I ever owned. Still has a model of it on top of my desk. Also, UK model seems to not have some accessories my model had. So, I guess you didn't see the best of it. Plus the functions of the back seat of that car are legendary. There is even a function for merging front and back seats and laying everything down to convert it to a car-sized bed. I am not making any of this up :)
The reason the suspension is super stiff is hidden on how narrow and how high that car is. It must be stiff to having better safety on corners.
It's for young people who want a fast, small, fun, multi-functional city car.
Jeremy Clarkson said Porsche 944s we're good, the price of even the worse basket cases doubled over night. HubNut reviews a YRV and they become worthless.... 🤣
If you look carefully you can see Skoda Roomster pinched this design on the doors. Great video thanks.
I confidently predict that Mr Hubnut will describe this car as "hilarious"... ;-)
Unless I missed it, no!
I agree with you. I like, with a sporty car, having a manual box. I loved that the Skoda Fabia vRS Mk1 was such a surprise - it was fast, fun, and surprisingly a diesel with torque that came in wallops - then couldn't believe it when the MK2 became an auto petrol. It removed all that made it special.
I do still love a quirky small car though
The Monte Carlo edition Fabia's seem to be the compromise to having a decent manual gearbox sporty Skoda. My brother has a 2015 version and its good but for a special edition the drivers seat is already wearing through and some of the leather trim on the gear knob and hand brake don't look the best either, whereas my older 2013 SEAT Ibiza built on the same platform and similar spec to his car has not suffered the same interior woes.
My Sister and her husband had the boggo version of this, we called it the Popemobile! Didn't know about the reclining back seat which I had to sit on during long journeys, Duncan if you're watching this hello mate :)
Love your videos for the sheer variety of different cars. It's like music. You hear new stuff you didn't even know existed and you love it!
Had honestly forgotten about the YRV, still think it's a funky little car today. A good honest review.
Remind me not to offer you a Sales role lol!!
Ha! Always an honest review. Not a bad car but definitely not one for me. Which surprised me. A lot.
My father had a yrv manual back in the day
It was wallowie to drive but very reliable and trustworthy car.
"We better see what it feels like in the rear"..one of your greatest innuendos Ian lol.
I had one in yellow💛!!! I loved my YRV👍!!
They were probably specifically aimed at the Japanese market, where they love a high powered sporty car, but also where automatics are kind of mandatory and traffic doesn't allow for fast driving.
indeed, this seems like a JDM escapee with some very Japanese preferences...their roads are much smoother, too, so the rubbish suspension likely wouldn't be much of an issue...
The reason is actually much simplier, the manual gearbox can't handle the power and breaks. Many people tried to convert them and that was the issue...
@@mercedesw211classic Wikipedia says that it was offered with one in Japan, though? An "upgraded 5-speed manual [exclusive to the model]"
@@alexandermoore2982 🤔 hmm I don't think so, but maybe they made a small number with the transmission of the Storia X4, that was their only powerful turbo model with manual so...
Regarding the stubborn gearbox, I do find with my '01 Lexus GS300 (that also has manu-matic up and down buttons on the steering wheel) that I only use manual mode for short bursts, when accelerating onto a fast road or overtaking - all other times it's strictly in automatic. Then again, it would be infuriating if the car chose when to shift back into auto, so I get your frustrations.
I had a Nissan silvia 1.8 turbo auto, in champagne silver (slightly pink silver) the lag in the turbo and the auto along with RWD and no traction control was very entertaining. Also had Nankang budget tyres. I almost died a few times.
I like it!! Seems utterly mad and flawed, but that just adds to its charm!
This had me laughing out loud! Well engineered cars that seem to miss the point but I wish they were still in the UK.
I used to sell Daihatsu parts in North Devon back in the days of the Move and Grand Move so it's very nice to see a Daihatsu on North Devon roads 👍😊
I had a yrv f speed 1.3 for 10 yrs. I bought it for my ex and I have to say, it was a great little car(bit of a biscuit tin) but so fun to drive. It drove well and was nippy. It was unusual to say the least. Using the gearshift on steering wheel was a little diff as the buttons are to small and had to feel around for em sometimes. Some times the gearbox would clonk into action from a standing start big time. My ex fancied a change after 10 yrs, and cos it needed a whole new exhaust and poss a manifold, I sold it . Really wish I had not.
I reckon you would love a Colt CZT. Fun little car.
Mr Hub Nut I think you should get the Daihatsu what a nice looking car would love to see this on your channel fixing it up tinkering with very nice 👍
Great vid... Brought back some happy memories, the choppy ride and willingness to spin front wheels at any moment!. And mine was just the standard 1.3. If memory serves me right the automatic transmission on the turbo was that the manual gearbox couldnt handle the turbo.
It’s got Turbo written on the side! ( careful now). 4:30: “ we’d better check how it feels in the rear”. That’s not what she said. Ever.
Ooh a TURBO!!! 😲😁⚠️👍
Maybe it's for one of thpse mums who has to quickly dash down the shops or quickly drop the kids of at school?
That odd steering wheel manual gear shift selector gearbox that reverts to auto would be most irritating!
Whatever it's trying to be is very niche. 😲⚠️😳
Edit- on a plus note that front end looks the business with the swooping lines, air ram intake scoop and spot lights.👍😁
oh my, Sports Suspension, or as we call it in the motorcycle world - rigid...
Great honest review Ian great content nice too see my 2 favourite TH-cam channels together keep up the great content
Wow, I am very surprised by this after James had such positive impression about it. I hope he will invite you again after this :)
I don't think I have ever seen you this disappointed in a car before. Excellent honest review as always.
YRV stands for "Young Recreational Vehicle"
A very underrated car in its time.
What more could a HubNutter want? - HubNut AND Chops Garage video in one! I was looking forward to Part 2..I wasn’t disappointed (…by the video at least!!!) Thanks Ian.
As usual another great review Ian. A car that looks better on paper than in reality it would seem. The automatic gearbox seems a bizarre choice.
I really didn't know there was a turbo version. Always liked the styling of the YRV.
In malaysia the YRV's K3-VET always get swapped into Perodua cars here. Its puzzling on how its always paired with automatic. Turns out there's no manual version
My daily car is a Fiat Doblo with a (slightly tickled) 1.4 Turbo engine. Can't say I agree that a sporty engine in a practical car doesn't match, I'm having a laugh with mine quite often. It is a 6-speed manual though and the turbocharger is smaller than the one used in Abarth models, so there's a hint of boost starting at 1600rpm, boost really kicks in somewhere between 2000 and 2500rpm, and it gives its full potential up to about 4000-4500rpm. It does rev beyond 6k rpm, but unlike the real Abarths that's only useful if you want to reach a certain speed/point before shifting or when wringing out a bend (bi-link rear suspension, quite unique on a van, and I put a set of alloys and sporty 235/45/17 tyres on it, so it corners stable at surprising speeds), but there's always a gear to be right in the middle of the powerband at any legal speed, I even think its a 6-speed only for marketing reasons because I often skip 3rd and 5th when accellerating without revving beyond or dropping below the powerband.
It sounds like the turbo in the YRV is simply too big and the gearing is spread out too far to make it work.
Ian! Love your channel! Can you find a FSO Polenez for review? Probably the most HubNut car ever!
I remember at the time a motoring magazine did a little round up of hot hatches. All they had to say about this Dihatsu was "Rocket Powered Roller Skate".
It's concept seems to foreshadow the current trend for putting small engines in cars and improving their performance using a turbo charger, it also foreshadows the tendency for the turbo to prematurely trash the engine.
True but don't forget that same concept has been successful in countless Kei cars - it's when they start to put these tiny engines in cars there built to carry a family that the concept goes tits up
@@alfamonk that was the implication when I said ‘current trend’. I agree I could have been clearer.
Sounds like my 1989 Daihatsu Mira with 40hp was actually more fun because it was a manual!
I drove a normally aspirated YRV as a company car in 2002. It was very roomy and practical and one night I used it to tow a Mitsubishi Lancer, a much bigger car, and I called it "The little engine that could" after that. I think it shared a powerplant with the Toyota Yaris.
This is definitely the most entertaining review I reckon you've done but of course that was entirely unintentional.
Searching the archives of the magazines and their websites I found out that they were even imported in Greece!
I don't think a lot of them were sold generally (maybe to an older audience because of their shape) and even less of the sporty Turbo version of course
The only new car I've ever bought was a 2002 Mitsubishi Spacestar, great little car which I changed in 2008 for a VW Touran as the family was growing. This YRV is very reminiscent of the Spacestar.
Another great vlog Ian, keep them coming sir ✅J.
This car was never sold in Germany. Only lower powered engines. Here we only had the Charade Gtti Turbo.
We had the GTti too. I adore them. Very rare now.
Absolutely brilliant video Ian 👍 lovely car and looks fun a pity they don't make them any more
It's difficult to believe it's 20 years since my wife bought a "Premium" YRV with delivery mileage from a used car supermarket for £6000 .We found the back seat to be roomy enough for the pub run, with more leg room than the Punto it replaced. As an aside Ihe Punto was a sort of mini MPV it being an update of the Uno, which I think took inspiration from the Lancia Mega Gamma. Our YRV had a cloth parcel shelf akin to a sun screen, this allowed the back seat to be pushed back and reclined .
It was totally reliable in the four years we kept it and it sipped fuel, I remember thinking at the time that there was no way the chassis could handle a turbo It was more than fast enough as standard,. It was buzzy, flimsy feeling, hard riding even though I think the suspension was a little softer than this, and could be skittish; so not something to take out of town but great fun away from A roads..
Can the backseats recline into a flat bed or do you have to fold it forward for that?
Sweet little car, not as clever internally as one expects from a small Japanese car but what a nice little thing, old school sporty, no suspension.....prefer a materia though, that looked like hard work to 'push on' in...
Lol .I owned the boggo standard version of this. Brought for £500 as a stop gap. Drove for 3 years , never changed the oil, never needed to fill it with oil or water in 50k miles. I’d still be driving it now if a lorry wouldn’t have hit it while parked. Insurance gave me £875! Oh it was terrible on windy days, like a roller coaster!
Shame it is a automatic only. I am guessing it is auto only for emissions purposes. With an auto transmission, a car maker can program a bunch of parameters that could not be done on a manual car. It might also be to protect the engine from over revs if the wrong gear is shifted in (like going to down shift from 5th to 4th and you accidently put it in 2nd). Of course having driven manual trans cars for years in the Washington DC area, i was quite happy to give up the manual trans for an automatic.
We in the USA only got an SUV called the Rocky and the 3rd gen Charade (from 88-92) and then Daihatsu rolled out of the USA market. Daihatsu were more expensive then the Dodge/Plymouth Colt (rebadged Mitsu Mirage) which were big sellers and were fun to drive (I had a 2001 Mirage coupe with the manual trans and it was fun to drive around corners)
Had a YRV prototype in the garage back in the days. (we designed front guards). Found it hilarious but would never want to own one.
Watching this over a week after I've sold mine...wonderfully weird cars they are. Too bad they rust a bit faster than expected, so to say (apart from the things you've mentioned, although these didn't bother me that much)
I just bought another one…guess the Dai bug is hard to get rid of lol
your frustrations with them only giving an automatic transmission is something us Americans struggle with. We don't have any manuals anymore :(
VXR Zafira, loved it! one of the funniest cars I've owned!
My god that's banging and crashing well on the bumps 😵💫
When he showed that Daihatsu the other day on his channel I knew it would lure Ian to his garage. The YRV is in that similar sector of small Japanese mini MPV styled compact car like the Honda Jazz and the no longer around Nissan Note.
Cracking little motor, always some weird and wonderful cars from Daihatsu 👍🇮🇲
Certainly was a surprising conclusion - The "fizzy" engine I thought would have been a hit (and was - if not for being overshadowed by the dumb autobox). I wonder why automatic only - were Daihatsu lacking a manual 'box capable of handling the torque? Or was it really a JDM market type affair where they seem to prefer autos even on what would normally be a default manual choice in the UK (e.g. auto MX5 seems popular import, but seems mad choice - not to have a manual to my eyes!) I'd have thought the turbo lag would have been tolerable, were you to have a manual and hence able to keep the revs up (and hence minimise the lag) when required. Your frustration at the combined effect of dumb 'box and the lag was understandable.
I wonder if the poor rear headroom is trim level specific - i.e. is the pocket in the headlining, to suit the sliding cover for the fixed glass moon (??) roof - the reason for the poor headroom in the back?
Have to say dead lifeless steering, flimsy rattly interior and to an extent overly hard suspension were all a surprise.
If only there were hundreds of these sold and hence that 1.3 turbo engine was commonly available in the scrapyards - swapping that into your Charade (and keeping it's manual 'box) would then have been an obvious choice!
Enjoyable video (and please don't read that as "I enjoyed laughing at your frustration" !!)
@14:03 It is a great idea. Dads want to have fun, too.
Good review. Had a look at the contemporary Parkers test/owner comments and they concur about the suspension. It just feels like a disappointingly underdeveloped car. This one has done well to survive given its MOT history and Parkers show just one other (54 plate) for sale, at £27(1?)95.
Thanks for this video. - interesting car!!
That ride reminds my of my old Ignis Sport, rock hard
Not a fan of automatics in small engines. I had a Suzuki Baleno automatic and I had to use the lever to shift it manually because of the lag. It always wanted to be in the highest gear.
I've had one of these from new, absolute hoot, once you learnt its limitations, such as not going round corners very well and not very good at stopping either..... but these can be upgraded . Auto only as manuals couldn't cope with the umpff ...... Thanks for the memories
How does a Toyota Glanza V manual manage to cope with the same unit ? 😂
Ahhhhh the mysterious world of cars........ we may never know
@@davewright3317 maybe they didn’t want to spend the money finding out 😂
@@Mr330d I am afraid they are not the same unit. Starlet Glanza is using Toyota 4E-FTE engine while YRV Turbo is using Daihatsu K3-VET engine. There are obvious differences between the two such as 4E-FTE is cam belt driven while K3-VET is cam chain driven.
YRV turbo’s engine is much more related to 1st gen Yaris engine rather than to Glanza.
There is no way that I could put up with the noises it makes when going over bumps in the road. I've just spent £450 replacing the springs, shocks and finally the axle bushes to cure a noise no way near that bad on my Fiat Panda, I value peace and quiet that much haha!! The YRV 130 Turbo imo is a dreadful car, thank you Ian, you saved me putting myself through driving onre myself.
Great video.
Also saw an ultra rare Fiesta RS Turbo today could not believe it as thought they all rusted away lol
Oh ian that daihatsu looked and sounds so much fun only ever seen one YRV but still looked funky looks a bit like the Toyota Yaris verso
In Australia these were marketed to the youth cohort (new young drivers) and were quite successful, you would see a lot of them driving around on probationary plates. They have all but disappeared from the roads now which I suspect is due to your observation of rusting problems and the original unskilled owners perhaps mistreating them just a bit.
There will Always be other "Temptations 👀❤️",Ian. Well,at least it actually sold, considering the times we're in at the moment....
Definitely a good hubnut car to keep chemmy company
Weekend motor to go shooting all round those mid wales roads!
I was watching this all the way from the Caribbean on marketplace, because i have a 2001 Daihatsu Terios with the same engine that this YRV has and also automatic no manual available
I thought it would be fun. how wrong I was😂 I think my 1987 Domino with 5 speed gearbox was more fun, but maybe a bit more tinny too 🙃
The Daihatsu is a smart looking little unit for its era.We had Daihatsu Charades here from the mid 80s onward.The one to buy was the 990cc 3 cylinder turbo version they could really get up and go,handling needed some extra tweeking.Following them there was a limited addition SUV type version called a gravel.It was a pretty wild unit not many found their way into NZ sadly.
Yup, the Charade GTti is an absolute hoot. Over 90bhp from 993cc in the 1980s!
I’m liking that. I’d be putting a manual box in it for maximum fun.
A very common mod, as you can simply use bits from a Sirion 1.3.
Imagine the Vauxhall Meriva with 189hp.....these types of car are just nuts.
Iconic quirky Turbo YR-V
Never seen or heard of the YRV turbo seen ordinary versions you should review a mk1 Toyota Sienta someday they’re actually a real funky JDM only 7 seater that’s based on the Yaris/Vitz only the CVT gearbox on those but it’s party piece is the auto sliding door💨🇯🇵
Lovely looking motor
I seem to remember these were called the Pyzar in some markets.
Gosh I like the look of this car.
I owned a YRV Turbo 130 from 2005 - 2009 and loved it! 0-60 in around 8.5 secs, 42 mpg an the the young (at the time) kids and child seats fitted with no problems. I picked up a special edition non turbo YRV F-Speed with a red Bridge of Weir leather interior and swapped that into my turbo, making an already rare car unique. The only weak point in my tenure was a 'fragile' twin exhaust which would literally break in half until I replaced it with a custom made stainless steel system. Why didn't the car on test have the clear rear 'Lexus' style rear light clusters, I thought all YRV 130 had those?
A rare, quirky, but ultimately pedestrian minivan, especially a Daihatsu, screams HubNut to me, interesting conclusion is more than right here.
An interesting car I have never heard of. Looking at it I thought you would be taking it home but as drove it all those hopes disappeared.....
Ian wait and test drive a Dacia Duster I think you'll be suprized, I went from a face lift Mk2 Citroen C5 exclusive to my 2018 duster laureate and I have to say its a very comfortable car with the 1.5 diesel manual engine. reassuringly weighty and well planted to drive. tow car of the year in 2013 to. you might need some steps for the misses though 😄
And Automatic you have the Power Of Suggestion Over... but it's actually a cat and does what it wants.
This thing, but manual and equipped with M15A. Don't want a 4 cylinder lump..
A most entertaining review of a most bizarre car, I was wondering if the steering shift button switched the torque steer on and off......
I heard it said that suspension technology is what makes it possible to make higher cars. I think no, they just made them firmer and hoped the buyers would get used to it.
Nice car but the Micra just needs a service, I know Mica’s well
well done hubnut.. youve just put everyone off buying the car from mr chops now! 😄
He loves it! Which just goes to show. What's awful to someone might be great fun to someone else.
@@HubNut that's true..
I had the old whatcar review car one of these in yellow sadly the dreaded rust got to it
Suzuki Ignis Sport springs to mind (In custard yellow)
I believe one was traded in for it...
@@HubNut I wonder if they will love or regret it? The Ignis was such a good little economy car. No frills. Just how I like them :)
And I thought the K11 CVT was a silly idea!
It’s such a cheeky looking little thing. Shame about the gear box and the ride. My dad ordered a new 2001 BMW X5 with the 4.4 v8 and sport suspension. He commented several times that it was ridiculously firm for the type of car that it was. I think it was returned at lease end with no regrets.
Those X5s are bloody awful for ride comfort!
Quite a quirky little car that YRV, bit wierd to have a car with an auto box if it's meant to be sporty, least it's got a manual mode. Also a Berlingo update, we've now got a radio in it and currently in the process of fitting some new speakers, it's doing a run to Doncaster on Saturday so we'll see what motorway driving is like in it (all 68bhp of it 🤣)
3,000rpm at 70 gets tiresome 😂
Toyota owns Diahatsu they haven't been available here in the USA since the Charade and Rocky. The Rocky was quite capable 4wd.
YES YES YES!!!! Epic little nut cars
After Applause, Charade & Domino, I always hoped for the Daihatsu Dilemma
("Get into a Dilemma, Today")
8:45 If am not mistaken u press the Steer Shift button u mentioned earlier on to use those steering shifters (or rather these days we call them paddle shift) because I remember the Daihatsu Move L900 (Perodua Kenari in UK) I driven in Japan before has the same thing I 1St didn't know how to use it as well but then someone actually told me that u press the steer shift to engage the uh steering shifter mode
You didn't get to the end of the video then? He figured that out after a few mins.
A lot of crap about this car but I still love it! ❤️