I think it's the fact that Joker's influence is so big that he would be seen as a martyr by people who follow him. Since he's extremely insane and idealict people who follow his beliefs of a messed up world and that everything is so meaningless that they would get inspired by him and cause more damage and destruction.
@sovereign-of-scars4372 or considering he is apparently immune to punishments and escapes easily from everywhere... why can't Batman pulls strings to have Joker placed in a prison off world?
@@mellowyello1478 Now this is an idea here. Actually, the more I think about it, Batman could just borrow the Phantom Zone projector from Superman and Joker definitely wouldn't be a problem for a very long time. Edit: Yes, I've seen the Lego Batman movie.
Plenty of cities and whole states don't have a death penalty, or at least choose not to apply it. You're forgetting politics. The Gotham universe in large part is a satire of dysfunctional American city politics in the northeast.
@@zimriel but you forget something about those cities... THEY ARE NOT GOTHAM. There is no way joker does the shit he does, and the fucking government does not send a squad to just kill him.
Gotham feels like a cursed burial ground. Evil just corrupts everything in this city to the point where even the heroes aren't immune to it. Joker embraces that corruption and becomes more monster than man.
Arkham is the edge of the earth that connects dc with vertigo and our Earth. Like if Clark Kent went there he would leave learning that superman never existed he dreamed him up, it's were different realities over lap
Because it is. There's a comic that reveals that, centuries ago, a group attempted to summon a demon, only for said demon to be sealed right beneath where Gotham would be. Except that wasn't a demon, it was a part of Darkseid, who is pretty much the God of Evil in DC.
@@alastairolson3226 Batman is a failure of a hero. What hero allows a madman who has brutalized and killed hundreds of people to escape? I'm not suggesting that Batman kill him, but at least get the courts to give Joker the death penalty.
Yep wouldn't be surprised if Joker was able too smuggle in doses of his laughing gas toxins and poison the Dr. over time too. Joker's a master manipulator but convincing someone that 3 years only happened in 3 weeks is a bit of a stretch even for comics
@@alexandru5369sometimes people forget things but due to that breach reality seems confusing,so in defence people create memories out of creative imagination, its a hopeful reality,but once it shatters it makes the person too confused to be able to continue,it is critical for the human to be keep his nerves calm under that period of regression this display of utter miasma of "not fully knowing" is greatly described,this is why I like batman series,not just the hero, the entire plot is a banger
@@alexandru5369 the incredible amount of bullshit Joker toxin can do is astounding. Depending on the writer's needs it can straight up kill, hypnotize, turn people and animal into clown zombies, or whatever the fuck else plot armor-y bullshit the writer needs it to do.
@@dzd__2216 but still two face is broken and he have so many regrets so he is not completely villain he is actually very sad inside so not like joker who have no regret and completely a psycho maniac villain, two face is hardened criminal he can be fix by rehabilitation but joker is a habbitual offender and also a psychopath, according to joker bad and good don't exist but two face is revenge minded while joker is a pure evil, joker is the most villain in dc even darkshed have some humanity for his own spicies but joker have no humanity for his own team and people Aswell.
My headcanon is that anyone who wanted to cure joker already has an existing mental disease, not hidden but more like suppressed, and deep down sees The Joker as a man who can help them escape or something like that, that's why they are drawn to him like moths to a light.
Bingo. Harley Quinn felt like she wasn't seen or noticed by anyone in the real world. So she probably dealt with some type of depression disorder, and Joker felt like the first person to ever notice her and had a friend for once that would listen to her. His intelligence to read people and use it to his advantage shouldn't be overlooked
Especially if they're repressing those mental illnesses, it could be seen as them seeing Joker as their way out; "if I can fix him, then I can fix me" or "if I can fix him, there's nothing wrong with me", etc. The problem of course being that Joker can't be fixed because he's exactly how he wants to be, and by the time any fresh soul walks in front of his cell, he's already read them like a book. It's also likely that despite the track record (Dr. Hutchins even mentions not wanting to "risk losing another young mind to that animal", which may just be referring to Harley but feels like there's more victimsbehind that concern than just Dr. Quinzel), the Asylum is somehow required to provide counseling/therapy to inmates who ask for it, otherwise it's hard to imagine why they'd keep feeding staff into that meat grinder. Joker is a master manipulator (when written well) so I can imagine he's able to clear a bar where he appears willing to change and improve, possibly even faking legitimate progress to keep doctors with him for extended periods (possibly explaining why he was able to keep a doctor with him for three whole years). Then again, maybe progress wasn't even required, if the sessions were even just able to keep him in Arkham for three years without escape. Either way, it's a sorry state for everyone that Joker continues to exploit for his own amusement.
@@Haywood2 By the little hints, like about the life outside their work they accidentally spill out, expressions they make, and studying their emotional state day in and day out everytime one comes to talk to him. Joker is always observing not just his surroundings but everyone around him as well 24 7, so eventually he's gonna find something about you that he can use for his own gain
I love these kinds of stories about Batman's rogues. Really highlights how dangerous his villains are, that not even prison would contain their influence.
Kinda think after three years of unsuccesful therapy his superiors would see it goes nowhere and takes the toll of the guy's mental health and they'd just put an end to it.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 It could've been fixed if for example Joker was about to get excecuted in 3 months instead of 3 years and the psychologist wanted to gain as much data from his psyche as possible before Joker dies, leading to the high exposure towards the manipulation. Then make the psychologist ignore the protokol procedure so that his superiors don't know how often he meets the Joker, as he knew he wouldn't get granted this much time to solve the puzzle that is Joker. Only after getting convicted himself do his superiors find his notes that proof that he had way more contact with the Joker than allowed. Bang, problem partly solved. Joker is dangerous and it is a cautonary tale of not ignoring safety procedures placed for the best manipulator in Gotham. It isn't fully realistic, but way more believable!
In one comic Joker says he doesn't manipulate people, he just reveals their true form. That's why he can't do anything against really good people like Gordon or Batman.
@@peapod5629no you are wrong because it was shown in video that they had reviewed footage of his first therapy session with joker So it is highly likely that his other sessions were also recorded and seen. But it is a plot hole that despite what was happening between 3 yrs nobody intervened
This is how Batman comics should be written. Not only streets of Gotham are dark and desolate but soul of city is also corrupt with everyone just inch away from madness, including it's hero Batman but he always excels over corruption by his strict code of conduct and superhuman will.
@@xptaco2298Frank Miller’s Batman and some other interpretations are kind of crazy, but not animated or mainline comics Batman, while Joker is a psychotic, narcissistic killer at his core. Batman genuinely wants to help people and his city. He’s not fighting crime for self-gratification, but so no one has to suffer like he did.
Love how Joker not interacting causes a dude to lose his sanity. It’s the level of writing that’s like “And my villain is super smart and manipulative!” and you see none of the manipulation, outside of us being told it was very manipulative. Great art but wow that was contrived.
I think it's because we ONLY see things through the protagonist character's current perspective -who ultimately is an unreliable narrator. (And the Joker himself is anyway)
@@Pikmin_. I see every step of Sherlock’s thought process in the BBC series. Still a great detective show for the first few seasons. Doing what you’re saying is a cardinal sin of writing. Show, don’t tell. If a character is randomly leaving a room after what to EVERY READER is not that traumatizing of an interview, you’re naturally like “Okay, Joker has no powers. He’s literally a crazy guy. What is he doing to make this guy go insane?” We read the dialogue. We are shown it. But we’re not provided the gaps that show why this would psychologically demolish a fucking EDUCATED PSYCHIATRIST. It makes no sense, pure and simple.
@@pindy6109 I agree with you on this comic, but I will, respectfully, push back on the idea that the Sherlock BBC series is an example of a great detective show. Classic detective stories invite the audience to follow the detective’s thought process, piecing together clues logically. However, BBC’s Sherlock leans almost entirely on flashy visuals and withheld information, leaving viewers in the dark until the end, where Sherlock smugly presents a solution filled with details we never actually saw him deduce. This is no different than "My character is super smart!", but we never SEE them being smart. For example: "The Great Game" Sherlock solves Moriarty's challenges, but many of the challenges hinge on flash deductions or hidden details we don’t see until Sherlock explains them. The tension is high, which makes for great television, but we’re often left out of the puzzle-solving experience since Sherlock deduces answers without offering much insight into his process. "The Hounds of Baskerville" - The mystery is built up, but the solution appears abruptly through Sherlock’s "mind palace," with buzzwords and images flashing on-screen, leaving us with no clear logic behind his conclusion. "His Last Vow" - The villain Magnussen is introduced as an all-knowing blackmailer, but his "vaults" are just in his mind. There’s no evidence trail for Sherlock or us to follow-Magnussen simply “knows.” Sherlock is an entertaining drama with strong acting and visuals, but it skips actual authentic deduction, making it just a weak detective show.
Fun fact. In the Arkham Asylum video game. There is an interesitng bit of lore added to the asylum itself to expalin why it fails to help or cure anyone and why so much of the staff go insane. One of the things you can learn is that the place is haunted by the Spirit of Arkham. Who was once a former warden there. Who tried to cure/help a man that wipedout his family. When the man reavealed he hadn't changed after so long the warden gave up on saving anyone ever again and belived the insane would always be insane and dangerous. And so now he haunts arkham asylum and curses it. Both the inmates to get worse. And the doctors and workers to lose their minds in time.
I like the 'Super-Sane' explanation for the Joker. Where he like Deadpool/She-Hulk and other characters in comics, knows hes in a comic book. but unlike them using it for laughs and stuff, he sees no actual consequences for his actions because nothing is real, nothing matters, and he isn't actually the one doing all of the bad things.
Let's be real, he's probably just in the asylum for fun and could break out at any time. What are the odds he is spreading a subtle amount of Joker Gas from his cell all the time just to mess with the people around him, furthering this myth that he is more than a man?
You’d think that out of all the corrupt guards, cops and normal people who’s loved ones have been killed or tortured by the joker, that someone would just put a round in his skull during transit to Arkham. No monologue, no theatrics, just say “hey bill I’m gonna kill joker, if the cops ask, we never spoke to him during transit” it’s not like there isn’t a long list of people who’d even bother trying to stop him. No jury could convict the jokers killer, most lawyers would volunteer to defend him. And most judges are either being paid off by black mask, penguin, etc that the people bribing them would pay extra for a not guilty plea.
I think at this point 2 things are currently the status quo First of all Batman has stopped basically everyone who wanted to kill joker may it be another villain, another superhero, his own Robins, some random civilian who had enough of his antics or even Jim Gordon himself, because of his "killing bad you won't be no better than him" bs attitude which makes people back off in fear of facing this maniacs wrath And second of all Joker has either killed or mentally fucked up so many people who simply sat in the same room as him that at this point they are simply too afraid of him pulling some shit on them at the last minute because no matter how unlikely it is that he could do that he CAN he WILL and he probably DID already I mean after all there are special rules to never go near the patients which is of course standard procedure in mental asylums but this one exists most definitely because of Joker and his reputation So yeah both of these things are acting as THE perfect deterrence against anything threatening the jokers life
It's just comic book stupidity, it's not supposed to make sense. We all know that the joker would've been killed already, or have multiple attempts on his life all the time. The plot demands the Joker lives, so unless there's a conic out there that depicts what would actually happen he'll live
@@mzudemy911I understand that. But Batman can’t plan for spontaneity, can he? If someone googles “best way to kill joker” in Gotham city, Batmans on your tail instantly, but what can he do against a random cop, who got fed up with the chaos the joker brought and instead of the joker making it to the asylum, the cop just pulls over on the highway and blows jokers head open with his service pistol? Or the Arkham orderly lacing the jokers meal with rat poison? He can foil planned events as they happen, but he can’t preemptively arrest people for inevitably snapping.
He is supersane . Meaning he is the opposite of insane. He perceives and understands the reality he is an comic and such he acts as if he was in a comic
If joker knew batman would kill him.. he wouldn't be playing around batman ... Joker would do everything to drive batman to the very edge of darkness... Even die for it .... That's how was got The Batman Who Laughs.. the most darkest Batman ever.. we got that Batman cos Batman killed joker and got infected with the joker venom that came out of the joker's dead body
I'm sorry but, if batman kill joker than joker won, I mean remembered when Superman kill joker he became a tyrant, the only way to defeat joker is to make him defeat
@@kameronjones7139 he acting out the judicial and directly involved in things he good at than speak in front of a podium. For example travel to China and arrest that guy who do business with mobster in Gotham (the dark knight), or coming to beat a murderer that going to murder a family. That is how he deal with his trauma. And beyond that he gladly helps people like Jim Gordon or commissioner Harver (before he felt so hard). And charity too. He just have different approach in a corrupt system.
Joker made much more sense during the Golden and even Bronze age comics, but with today's militarized police, Batman could just "accidentally" let them gun him down.
See, that's one of the scariest things about Joker; he's never idle. Even when he's locked up he's always planning his next breakout, his next killing spree, just fucking with someone he finds interesting, or all three at once. Joker's a lot like Batman as people often say, two sides of the same coin. He's like Batman in the sense that, with enough prep time, he can do anything. Sometimes he uses that prep time to make fish smile and sometimes he uses it to drive a therapist completely insane.
Recently I’ve theorized that Villains, who are Mentally Ill, CAN be helped, most of them just need a hug, and some just pretend to be crazy to have a roof to sleep under, within the Asylum. But Villains who are Mentally Damage, I’m afraid those, CANNOT be helped, cause due to their damaged senses they’re unable to come to their senses, for their Free Will has been fracture beyond repair. By letting them live, only prolongs their suffering, and the suffering of others.
This is really a chilling story.One of the best batman story i've seen in a while.And the audio is peak here too.Those scratchy noises when he walks down..i got the shivers😅 Peak vid as always💪
Starting to think Joker belongs in his own isolated place away from the main Asylum. What are the chances Joker is the victim of another inmate though a poison?
There was a federal inmate named Tommy Silverstein who was an Aryan Brotherhood member who killed a guard. They put him on "no human contact" in a cell in the basement of Leavenworth. He never talked to another human besides guards who also refused to speak to him bc he killed a guard. I mean absolutely zero contact with people. For the rest of his life.
When I read Batman stories and see the chaos, injustice, high rate crimes, corruption, dangerous criminals at every corner and all of the bad things around Gotham, I see a parallel with my own country. Since I was a child I look at Batman city and the reality of living there and I feel at home. No where to run, get used to the chaos and move on.
I loved this series. Then again, anything done by the creative team of Jeff Lemire & Andrea Sorrentino is an automatic fucking win. Gideon Falls, Bone Orchard Mythos, this series..this team along with Brubaker & Phillips just don't miss.
This is such a dark gritty story, real horror/thriller vibe, very sinister, great artwork that really highlights darkness which is a difficult thing to balance, Happyville and joker, innovative storytelling
I love how for everyone who comes in close contact with Joker for a prolonged period of time usually end up with a broken mind, but Batman has fought Joker psychologically for years and still maintains his sanity
The second he accidentally purchased the weird book should have been his stopping point. It's sad, the hubris of psychologists/therapists that diagnose other people and then end up developing depression/psychosis themselves.
I mean, it's just proving the joker right, everyone is on the precipice of becoming insane. if he can drive someone crazy without even touching them then doesn't that make him right
i like the implication that joker has whats basically a virus in his brain and when someone tries to look into it by downloading it it just infects them as well. bro got zipbombed i feel so bad 😭
This makes me think that the joker got slight telepathic abilities from that vat of chemicals. Not enough to be controlled, but enough to influence people exposed to his messed up logic for too long.
It's conversational hypnosis. It's a real thing even in our world. Joker's highly intelligent and manipulative and narcissistic. He preyed on Benji's personal struggles an got him to a breaking point that allowed him to alter his perceptions. Human beings sense of self, our rationality, a sense of time, etc are all manipulatable thru hypnosis. However If they gave a comic book explaination, they might say it was chemistry which could also affect a person when used with hypnosis to this level. An joker was a chemist in some versions of the story.
Can't fix what was made broken! Some people are just made monsters for no reason or find any reason but if they don't want help then they can never be helped!
He "doesnt" let slide anything. He delivers the criminals to the people in charge of processing them. He is not god, nor Gotham's mayor or even a judge. He is there to help. When heroes get to be in charge of judging and executing, Injustice happens.
There's always having to be a balance of joy and despair, because too much despair might lead to depression, too much joy might lead into insanity, but if we have neutral ground with our mentality we would be purely sane.
Some people just ask why don't they kill him? 1.batman doesn't kill why would he do the same thing that put him in said path that made him Batman death can be very traumatizing especially if you literally saw it infort of you as a kid 2.Gordon is in the same boat even tho joker fucked his life over What we really should be blaming is Gotham's justice system can't really sentence an insane person to death
In case anyone is wondering, "Why is Two Face the best villain in arkham?"
Because he's not half-bad.
Lol
I mean, but he is, tho. He is literally half-bad.
I think that's the funny part about the joke. 😂
@@AnonymousSilence-nd3zbWhat about instead you say he’s half way decent?
@@mitsutaki1446 I mean, how often does Harvey really come out to play, tho?
@@AnonymousSilence-nd3zb Anytime he flips the correct side of the coin so given that it’s a 50/50 I’d say pretty often.
I get why batman wont kill but the fact that joker isnt up for execution is whats really insane
I've been saying that for years. I really wonder if there's no death penalty in Gotham.
@sovereign-of-scars4372 "Not guilty by reason of Mental disease or defect" pretty much sums up why not.
I think it's the fact that Joker's influence is so big that he would be seen as a martyr by people who follow him. Since he's extremely insane and idealict people who follow his beliefs of a messed up world and that everything is so meaningless that they would get inspired by him and cause more damage and destruction.
@sovereign-of-scars4372 or considering he is apparently immune to punishments and escapes easily from everywhere... why can't Batman pulls strings to have Joker placed in a prison off world?
@@mellowyello1478 Now this is an idea here. Actually, the more I think about it, Batman could just borrow the Phantom Zone projector from Superman and Joker definitely wouldn't be a problem for a very long time.
Edit: Yes, I've seen the Lego Batman movie.
"Why don't cannibals eat clowns?
"Because they taste funny!"
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"That actually is... pretty funny"
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Gotham without death penalty is the biggest bulshido in comics.
They can't write another good archnemesis for Batman, so they can't kill Joker off.
Yeah like how the hell are they getting away with this much murder joker is insane but is well aware of everything that he do
Plenty of cities and whole states don't have a death penalty, or at least choose not to apply it.
You're forgetting politics. The Gotham universe in large part is a satire of dysfunctional American city politics in the northeast.
@@zimriel but you forget something about those cities...
THEY ARE NOT GOTHAM. There is no way joker does the shit he does, and the fucking government does not send a squad to just kill him.
Astetically north east, but more akin to an LA, SF, or SD.....
Gotham feels like a cursed burial ground. Evil just corrupts everything in this city to the point where even the heroes aren't immune to it. Joker embraces that corruption and becomes more monster than man.
Arkham is the edge of the earth that connects dc with vertigo and our Earth. Like if Clark Kent went there he would leave learning that superman never existed he dreamed him up, it's were different realities over lap
Because it is.
There's a comic that reveals that, centuries ago, a group attempted to summon a demon, only for said demon to be sealed right beneath where Gotham would be.
Except that wasn't a demon, it was a part of Darkseid, who is pretty much the God of Evil in DC.
This thread summarized:
It's a good thing the rent is so low in Gotham.
The league of shadows may have been right. Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing for Gotham to burn.
Joker is obviously a demon possessed man. No psychologist is going to fix that.
" I'll find you Joker.. " Says Batman for the 27,448th time
For real you'd think Batman would've offed him years ago Joker is a lost cause
@@alexandru5369 that is not who Batman is
Yeah no he finds him easily, he just doesn't do what needs to be done.
@@alastairolson3226 Batman is a failure of a hero. What hero allows a madman who has brutalized and killed hundreds of people to escape? I'm not suggesting that Batman kill him, but at least get the courts to give Joker the death penalty.
@@inkchariot6147 i wish u were batman lol
"I can fix him" Ahh doctor
Doctor: if this 3 year, where is money?
Tried to do what Hugo Strange couldn't do.
Cringe
Goddam this actually describes how people with hallucinations and schizophrenia feel.. dang this almost scared half my soul…
I have schizophrenia and being honest this is pretty damn close
john 9:31 god hates sinners and he does not care. repent sinner
@@mrevaluator1337 uh u know being ill or having an illness dosent make u a sinner
So yeah well anyways have a nice day
@@nameless09ko That guy's a piece of shit, ignore him. Probably a bot
This is officially the scariest thing I've seen on TH-cam.
It's all fun a games until you you perceive 3 years as 3 weeks.
Yep wouldn't be surprised if Joker was able too smuggle in doses of his laughing gas toxins and poison the Dr. over time too. Joker's a master manipulator but convincing someone that 3 years only happened in 3 weeks is a bit of a stretch even for comics
@@alexandru5369sometimes people forget things but due to that breach reality seems confusing,so in defence people create memories out of creative imagination, its a hopeful reality,but once it shatters it makes the person too confused to be able to continue,it is critical for the human to be keep his nerves calm under that period of regression
this display of utter miasma of "not fully knowing" is greatly described,this is why I like batman series,not just the hero, the entire plot is a banger
@@kazukawasaki97 good point I guess losing a family (especially if they leave you)
@@alexandru5369well the dude was going absolutely nuts so it was his own mind doing it rather than the Joker manipulating him into thinking that
@@alexandru5369 the incredible amount of bullshit Joker toxin can do is astounding. Depending on the writer's needs it can straight up kill, hypnotize, turn people and animal into clown zombies, or whatever the fuck else plot armor-y bullshit the writer needs it to do.
Even two face was trying to warn him 😂
Because actually joker had make two face villain, if u read the comics the two face was actually a anti hero.
@@lordad872 he’s definitely not anti-hero The guy would literally do anything to run Gotham
@@dzd__2216 but still two face is broken and he have so many regrets so he is not completely villain he is actually very sad inside so not like joker who have no regret and completely a psycho maniac villain, two face is hardened criminal he can be fix by rehabilitation but joker is a habbitual offender and also a psychopath, according to joker bad and good don't exist but two face is revenge minded while joker is a pure evil, joker is the most villain in dc even darkshed have some humanity for his own spicies but joker have no humanity for his own team and people Aswell.
@@dzd__2216two face would, Harvey wouldn’t
"How'd you sleep Harvey? " "not well, I was up half the night. "
😂 that's peak comedy.
My headcanon is that anyone who wanted to cure joker already has an existing mental disease, not hidden but more like suppressed, and deep down sees The Joker as a man who can help them escape or something like that, that's why they are drawn to him like moths to a light.
Bingo. Harley Quinn felt like she wasn't seen or noticed by anyone in the real world. So she probably dealt with some type of depression disorder, and Joker felt like the first person to ever notice her and had a friend for once that would listen to her. His intelligence to read people and use it to his advantage shouldn't be overlooked
Most therapists do have backgrounds of trauma or depression which leads them to becoming therapists
Especially if they're repressing those mental illnesses, it could be seen as them seeing Joker as their way out; "if I can fix him, then I can fix me" or "if I can fix him, there's nothing wrong with me", etc. The problem of course being that Joker can't be fixed because he's exactly how he wants to be, and by the time any fresh soul walks in front of his cell, he's already read them like a book.
It's also likely that despite the track record (Dr. Hutchins even mentions not wanting to "risk losing another young mind to that animal", which may just be referring to Harley but feels like there's more victimsbehind that concern than just Dr. Quinzel), the Asylum is somehow required to provide counseling/therapy to inmates who ask for it, otherwise it's hard to imagine why they'd keep feeding staff into that meat grinder. Joker is a master manipulator (when written well) so I can imagine he's able to clear a bar where he appears willing to change and improve, possibly even faking legitimate progress to keep doctors with him for extended periods (possibly explaining why he was able to keep a doctor with him for three whole years). Then again, maybe progress wasn't even required, if the sessions were even just able to keep him in Arkham for three years without escape.
Either way, it's a sorry state for everyone that Joker continues to exploit for his own amusement.
@@tylerhartley5031 How does he know?
@@Haywood2 By the little hints, like about the life outside their work they accidentally spill out, expressions they make, and studying their emotional state day in and day out everytime one comes to talk to him. Joker is always observing not just his surroundings but everyone around him as well 24 7, so eventually he's gonna find something about you that he can use for his own gain
I love these kinds of stories about Batman's rogues. Really highlights how dangerous his villains are, that not even prison would contain their influence.
What are other stories like these? I’d love to read them
@@dejan3192 me too
Nothing an execution wouldn't cure. But Batman is truly insane.
@@gjfwang Didn't ask.
I mean nobody asked for you're opinion kinda hypocritical No? @@jack-exzolt9858
Am i the only one that thinks the art style is just magnificent?
absolutely not, its gorgeous
@@JibrilPC you're right.
Reminds me of old man Logan’s art (if it’s not the same artist)
@Kansatsusha355 erm what the sigma
Yes
Kinda think after three years of unsuccesful therapy his superiors would see it goes nowhere and takes the toll of the guy's mental health and they'd just put an end to it.
Yeah, the plot falls flat the moment you notice the plotholes.
Exactly
@@DundGShame. It can be challenging to write such bizarre and exciting stories without any flaws.
Oh well, still a super engaging tale.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 It could've been fixed if for example Joker was about to get excecuted in 3 months instead of 3 years and the psychologist wanted to gain as much data from his psyche as possible before Joker dies, leading to the high exposure towards the manipulation. Then make the psychologist ignore the protokol procedure so that his superiors don't know how often he meets the Joker, as he knew he wouldn't get granted this much time to solve the puzzle that is Joker.
Only after getting convicted himself do his superiors find his notes that proof that he had way more contact with the Joker than allowed.
Bang, problem partly solved. Joker is dangerous and it is a cautonary tale of not ignoring safety procedures placed for the best manipulator in Gotham. It isn't fully realistic, but way more believable!
@@DundG unrealistic because despite the fact that Joker has done enough things to earn hundreds of death sentences, they never will execute him.
The joker literally stole the man’s sanity
In one comic Joker says he doesn't manipulate people, he just reveals their true form. That's why he can't do anything against really good people like Gordon or Batman.
@ramonserna8089 batman has admitted that if it weren't for his non-killing rule, he would become just like Joker.
Can't have shit in Gotham
@@thelordz33 That is why he wants batman to break it.
yoinked it
The unbelivable thing is that no cop has killed the Joker yet.
Or another supe. Edit: I mean that another supe didn't kill Joker, not that the police haven't killed another supe.
Person like the joker he is more valuable to be brought alive
@@abdallahanwar4324how though
Me if i was in gotham and i saw the joker🤡: 🔫((the writers Will kill me instantly)
maybe because he is not black. I don't know, I'm just assuming, I'm from Asia
God dam the art style really encapsulates the whole feeling of the comic
what does god have to do with this
It's a saying, I'm guessing English isn't your first language.@@davidlitterson7992
@@KAY0DE no it's not a saying the guys praying to god to come down and comment.
@@davidlitterson7992 You're trolling, I'm not religious and I know that not what he is implying.
@@KAY0DE yes you and he are.
At no point the other doctors thought: Huh, is weird Ben is confiding personal information to this known insane criminal.
they didn't know obviously. therapy lessons are private, it's literally the most important thing about therapy
@@peapod5629 I think after the second doctor going insane rules can be bend a little.
@@peapod5629no you are wrong because it was shown in video that they had reviewed footage of his first therapy session with joker
So it is highly likely that his other sessions were also recorded and seen. But it is a plot hole that despite what was happening between 3 yrs nobody intervened
@@noone6512 I see, I guess you're right then.
@@noone6512 maybe he's just that good at convincing people
This is how Batman comics should be written. Not only streets of Gotham are dark and desolate but soul of city is also corrupt with everyone just inch away from madness, including it's hero Batman but he always excels over corruption by his strict code of conduct and superhuman will.
Batman is just as crazy as Joker, he just expresses it completely differently than the Jokers.
@@xptaco2298to understand someone you must be them. But never go full retard.
@@xptaco2298Frank Miller’s Batman and some other interpretations are kind of crazy, but not animated or mainline comics Batman, while Joker is a psychotic, narcissistic killer at his core. Batman genuinely wants to help people and his city. He’s not fighting crime for self-gratification, but so no one has to suffer like he did.
Love how Joker not interacting causes a dude to lose his sanity. It’s the level of writing that’s like “And my villain is super smart and manipulative!” and you see none of the manipulation, outside of us being told it was very manipulative.
Great art but wow that was contrived.
I think it's because we ONLY see things through the protagonist character's current perspective -who ultimately is an unreliable narrator. (And the Joker himself is anyway)
Well if we saw every step of the jokers plan than the comic wouldn't be fun
@@Pikmin_. I see every step of Sherlock’s thought process in the BBC series. Still a great detective show for the first few seasons.
Doing what you’re saying is a cardinal sin of writing. Show, don’t tell. If a character is randomly leaving a room after what to EVERY READER is not that traumatizing of an interview, you’re naturally like “Okay, Joker has no powers. He’s literally a crazy guy. What is he doing to make this guy go insane?”
We read the dialogue. We are shown it. But we’re not provided the gaps that show why this would psychologically demolish a fucking EDUCATED PSYCHIATRIST.
It makes no sense, pure and simple.
I mean, with any other character it would have been shit, but the joker is such a particular case that it actually works
@@pindy6109 I agree with you on this comic, but I will, respectfully, push back on the idea that the Sherlock BBC series is an example of a great detective show.
Classic detective stories invite the audience to follow the detective’s thought process, piecing together clues logically. However, BBC’s Sherlock leans almost entirely on flashy visuals and withheld information, leaving viewers in the dark until the end, where Sherlock smugly presents a solution filled with details we never actually saw him deduce. This is no different than "My character is super smart!", but we never SEE them being smart.
For example:
"The Great Game"
Sherlock solves Moriarty's challenges, but many of the challenges hinge on flash deductions or hidden details we don’t see until Sherlock explains them. The tension is high, which makes for great television, but we’re often left out of the puzzle-solving experience since Sherlock deduces answers without offering much insight into his process.
"The Hounds of Baskerville" - The mystery is built up, but the solution appears abruptly through Sherlock’s "mind palace," with buzzwords and images flashing on-screen, leaving us with no clear logic behind his conclusion.
"His Last Vow" - The villain Magnussen is introduced as an all-knowing blackmailer, but his "vaults" are just in his mind. There’s no evidence trail for Sherlock or us to follow-Magnussen simply “knows.”
Sherlock is an entertaining drama with strong acting and visuals, but it skips actual authentic deduction, making it just a weak detective show.
Fun fact. In the Arkham Asylum video game. There is an interesitng bit of lore added to the asylum itself to expalin why it fails to help or cure anyone and why so much of the staff go insane. One of the things you can learn is that the place is haunted by the Spirit of Arkham. Who was once a former warden there. Who tried to cure/help a man that wipedout his family. When the man reavealed he hadn't changed after so long the warden gave up on saving anyone ever again and belived the insane would always be insane and dangerous.
And so now he haunts arkham asylum and curses it. Both the inmates to get worse. And the doctors and workers to lose their minds in time.
Not just a mere former warden but the founder of the asylum, Amadeus Arkham.
@@lucasgomez0721 Right. My bad. Been a long time sense i played.
Wasn't this just revealed to be Quincy Sharp's delusions, which were what Hugo Strange leveraged?
@@lucasgomez0721That's why Bruce mother/her family was also insane in some stories?
@@sageoverheavenNah, I think some of it was from Arkham's own accounts before Sharp added on to them.
Dang Joker gave him the Mad Hatter treatment
I like the 'Super-Sane' explanation for the Joker. Where he like Deadpool/She-Hulk and other characters in comics, knows hes in a comic book. but unlike them using it for laughs and stuff, he sees no actual consequences for his actions because nothing is real, nothing matters, and he isn't actually the one doing all of the bad things.
'EVERYBODY .. NEEDS SOMEBODY .. SOMETIMES' ..
Joker spreading psychological hazards is a terrifying concept.
Joker is walking cognito hazard
Let's be real, he's probably just in the asylum for fun and could break out at any time. What are the odds he is spreading a subtle amount of Joker Gas from his cell all the time just to mess with the people around him, furthering this myth that he is more than a man?
scp ahh
"Be careful doc"
Dang, even Harvey is concerned.
only this arc is worth a separate movie
You’d think that out of all the corrupt guards, cops and normal people who’s loved ones have been killed or tortured by the joker, that someone would just put a round in his skull during transit to Arkham. No monologue, no theatrics, just say “hey bill I’m gonna kill joker, if the cops ask, we never spoke to him during transit” it’s not like there isn’t a long list of people who’d even bother trying to stop him. No jury could convict the jokers killer, most lawyers would volunteer to defend him. And most judges are either being paid off by black mask, penguin, etc that the people bribing them would pay extra for a not guilty plea.
I think at this point 2 things are currently the status quo
First of all
Batman has stopped basically everyone who wanted to kill joker may it be another villain, another superhero, his own Robins, some random civilian who had enough of his antics or even Jim Gordon himself, because of his "killing bad you won't be no better than him" bs attitude which makes people back off in fear of facing this maniacs wrath
And second of all
Joker has either killed or mentally fucked up so many people who simply sat in the same room as him that at this point they are simply too afraid of him pulling some shit on them at the last minute because no matter how unlikely it is that he could do that he CAN he WILL and he probably DID already
I mean after all there are special rules to never go near the patients which is of course standard procedure in mental asylums but this one exists most definitely because of Joker and his reputation
So yeah both of these things are acting as THE perfect deterrence against anything threatening the jokers life
It's just comic book stupidity, it's not supposed to make sense. We all know that the joker would've been killed already, or have multiple attempts on his life all the time.
The plot demands the Joker lives, so unless there's a conic out there that depicts what would actually happen he'll live
Too corrupt
@@mzudemy911I understand that. But Batman can’t plan for spontaneity, can he? If someone googles “best way to kill joker” in Gotham city, Batmans on your tail instantly, but what can he do against a random cop, who got fed up with the chaos the joker brought and instead of the joker making it to the asylum, the cop just pulls over on the highway and blows jokers head open with his service pistol? Or the Arkham orderly lacing the jokers meal with rat poison? He can foil planned events as they happen, but he can’t preemptively arrest people for inevitably snapping.
I do hate how the Joker is way too frequently implied to have super natural abilities in making people go crazy and such
Yeah.
Why? Its a cool concept dildo.
ikr like what the actual fuck is this bro dose not have mind control powers tf is that cringe
He is supersane . Meaning he is the opposite of insane. He perceives and understands the reality he is an comic and such he acts as if he was in a comic
@@aeoifjapefijl i think its cool yall comic fans will find any reason to complain and cry dont you.
The art style is phenomenal
And my name is Morgan Freeman. Good night.
Lol XD...
Bro, the voices? the sound effects? the music? this is insanee!
Every Joker story without Batman makes me dislike batman a little. This is what that monster does to normal ppl and Batman protects him.
If joker knew batman would kill him.. he wouldn't be playing around batman ... Joker would do everything to drive batman to the very edge of darkness... Even die for it .... That's how was got The Batman Who Laughs.. the most darkest Batman ever.. we got that Batman cos Batman killed joker and got infected with the joker venom that came out of the joker's dead body
Blame the justice system. Batman wouldn't be judge jury and executioner. If they put him on electric chair none of this would happen
I'm sorry but, if batman kill joker than joker won, I mean remembered when Superman kill joker he became a tyrant, the only way to defeat joker is to make him defeat
@kameronjones7139 why don't every hero become a goverment offical then?
Superman can be the president then!
See how hypocritical you are?
@@kameronjones7139 he acting out the judicial and directly involved in things he good at than speak in front of a podium. For example travel to China and arrest that guy who do business with mobster in Gotham (the dark knight), or coming to beat a murderer that going to murder a family. That is how he deal with his trauma. And beyond that he gladly helps people like Jim Gordon or commissioner Harver (before he felt so hard). And charity too. He just have different approach in a corrupt system.
This shit got me quaking in my boots. Never been this scared of a story
Joker made much more sense during the Golden and even Bronze age comics, but with today's militarized police, Batman could just "accidentally" let them gun him down.
Man, they need to make a series or atleast a short movie out of this, so terrifying yet captivating
Trying to cure joker is like literally trying to cure scp-096 cursed 😂
The whole happyvile thing definitely felt like some SCP shit
@@pred8r273 yeah definitely is like SCP-106 taking you to is dimension
@@pred8r273 Yeah some Bobble The Clown kind of shit
See, that's one of the scariest things about Joker; he's never idle. Even when he's locked up he's always planning his next breakout, his next killing spree, just fucking with someone he finds interesting, or all three at once. Joker's a lot like Batman as people often say, two sides of the same coin. He's like Batman in the sense that, with enough prep time, he can do anything. Sometimes he uses that prep time to make fish smile and sometimes he uses it to drive a therapist completely insane.
Recently I’ve theorized that Villains, who are Mentally Ill, CAN be helped, most of them just need a hug, and some just pretend to be crazy to have a roof to sleep under, within the Asylum. But Villains who are Mentally Damage, I’m afraid those, CANNOT be helped, cause due to their damaged senses they’re unable to come to their senses, for their Free Will has been fracture beyond repair. By letting them live, only prolongs their suffering, and the suffering of others.
Two Face would be a good example of a man who needs help. But the mentally damaged would be the joker, who just needs to be put down.
Its called proper medication bub.
Voiceover is masterfully done
Please, for the love of God keep telling stories just like this keep them coming
john 9:31 God does not care and he hates sinners. repent
@@Dragonborn_DragonKin no kruger child. the guy is literally praying to god he thinks god is going to come down in comment.
@@mrevaluator1337Buddy this is a Batman comic, not a church.
@@stewiegriffin9100 no you kruger child. the guy is literally praying to god he thinks god is going to come down in comment.
@@stewiegriffin9100 apparently you have issues my man.
Anna to Simon: Your father has went.... Away. He is not well
WE ARE MOVING TO CENTRAL CITY. IMMEDIATLY!!!!
This is an S tier story in my opinion
It's from dc comics..and they can do this stuff . Great stories happen more often in their comics
This is really a chilling story.One of the best batman story i've seen in a while.And the audio is peak here too.Those scratchy noises when he walks down..i got the shivers😅
Peak vid as always💪
Starting to think Joker belongs in his own isolated place away from the main Asylum. What are the chances Joker is the victim of another inmate though a poison?
There was a federal inmate named Tommy Silverstein who was an Aryan Brotherhood member who killed a guard. They put him on "no human contact" in a cell in the basement of Leavenworth. He never talked to another human besides guards who also refused to speak to him bc he killed a guard. I mean absolutely zero contact with people. For the rest of his life.
Thought poison ohh
Yea we’re just glossing over all the villains that have actual thought poison powers
1:26 bro got the happy tree friends comic book
Okay? But i dont get HOW he'd do this. Surrounded by other psyche specialists, going home to his family. This guy was already mentally cracked
Now you got it. 🙂
if this man manages to break and make everyone that meets him go insane, remember how strong batmans mind really is.
Im so surprised that no one tried to ever shoot joker dead like a cop or just someone with a gun
When I read Batman stories and see the chaos, injustice, high rate crimes, corruption, dangerous criminals at every corner and all of the bad things around Gotham, I see a parallel with my own country.
Since I was a child I look at Batman city and the reality of living there and I feel at home. No where to run, get used to the chaos and move on.
damn man, thats so sad, where do you live?
What country u talking about
I appreciate how chill two face was this whole comic
I loved this series. Then again, anything done by the creative team of Jeff Lemire & Andrea Sorrentino is an automatic fucking win. Gideon Falls, Bone Orchard Mythos, this series..this team along with Brubaker & Phillips just don't miss.
One thing I like about this story is that the illustrator didnt warp and stretch Jokers face like a damn cartoon.
One of the best and darkest stories I ever see
The idea of Joker gaslighting you into believing 3 weeks is 3 years is insane but kinda believable if you've lived through COVID
Amazing video brother , the effort never goes unnoticed, patiently waiting for another great video
"He then returns to his family."
Audibly said "Oh no" as I watched that
WOW! This was amazing 👏🏼
Thank you for all of this. I binged watched all your videos. Hugs.
This is such a dark gritty story, real horror/thriller vibe, very sinister, great artwork that really highlights darkness which is a difficult thing to balance, Happyville and joker, innovative storytelling
This story was magnificent
Wow such a compelling story. I loved this one
The voice acting always makes these videos better
I love how for everyone who comes in close contact with Joker for a prolonged period of time usually end up with a broken mind, but Batman has fought Joker psychologically for years and still maintains his sanity
The second he accidentally purchased the weird book should have been his stopping point. It's sad, the hubris of psychologists/therapists that diagnose other people and then end up developing depression/psychosis themselves.
This presentation was absolutely amazing thank you so much
I mean, it's just proving the joker right, everyone is on the precipice of becoming insane. if he can drive someone crazy without even touching them then doesn't that make him right
i like the implication that joker has whats basically a virus in his brain and when someone tries to look into it by downloading it it just infects them as well. bro got zipbombed i feel so bad 😭
Nah its just that he just sèes youre mental problems and cracks them
This comic will actually make a good movie
Harvey beeing the nice side guy
That's the problem with The Joker Is is extremely charismatic
That was really well done, thanks so much for doing it!
This would make an amazing short film!!!!
I like that Harvey warned the doctor
This makes me think that the joker got slight telepathic abilities from that vat of chemicals. Not enough to be controlled, but enough to influence people exposed to his messed up logic for too long.
It's conversational hypnosis. It's a real thing even in our world. Joker's highly intelligent and manipulative and narcissistic. He preyed on Benji's personal struggles an got him to a breaking point that allowed him to alter his perceptions. Human beings sense of self, our rationality, a sense of time, etc are all manipulatable thru hypnosis. However If they gave a comic book explaination, they might say it was chemistry which could also affect a person when used with hypnosis to this level. An joker was a chemist in some versions of the story.
Saw the title and saw the word "Tried" and was like yeah this wont end well, and not a tad bit surprised it didn't
Joker broke ben by telling him they live in a society
Also if batman doesnt kill even the joker, he can always break all his limbs?
bro gg
this is the best comic channel in the freaking word
i swear
I think it would have been cool if Joker had his wounds and band aids be removed as the story progressed to get at this passage of time.
THIS should've been a Joker film.
Just one more video before bed
LOL
Nice reading Mr Freeman.
As soon as he said laughter was real beauty I knew it was over for him 😂
This would make a kickass AA psychological horror game.
This is just that story from Watchmen where Rorschach was being researched by a therapist who went crazy cuz of him.
Yeah, it is literally that, but worse.
This is freaking me out, man!
Can't fix what was made broken! Some people are just made monsters for no reason or find any reason but if they don't want help then they can never be helped!
Oh, I read this one and he made the biggest mistake ever going inside of Joker’s head. So far it’s my favorite story.
This reminds me of in watchmen the psychiatrist who tries to understand Rorschach
Rorschach isn't even that hard to understand.
Bruhh remember, this the type of shit batman let's slide. I'd fucking hate batman if I lived in gotham
Shouldn’t we be blaming the system rather then Batman
I mean seriously why hasn’t Joker gotten the electric chair yet?
@@spectraphantom5870NOPE!! Batman is THE REAL PROBLEM because of his no k*l rule 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@spectraphantom5870 exactly
He "doesnt" let slide anything. He delivers the criminals to the people in charge of processing them. He is not god, nor Gotham's mayor or even a judge. He is there to help. When heroes get to be in charge of judging and executing, Injustice happens.
@@kleinkaufman8940 Exactly or the Justice Lords and their worse cause Batman is on their side
bro said "i can fix him"
There's always having to be a balance of joy and despair, because too much despair might lead to depression, too much joy might lead into insanity, but if we have neutral ground with our mentality we would be purely sane.
that is what allows us to think as human beings
I’m glad you used Morgan Freeman’s voice for the commentary.
If a live-action (BATMAN) show gets made someday; Then I would like Dr.Benjamin Arnell to be shown in it.
Goddamn. This story is right up there with the robin/joker scene from Batman Beyond. Fuck me.
All this could have been prevented if Batman would just kill joker and all his enemies
So all that for an escape plan,now that's a punch line
8:38 that’s vsauce on the top
Amazing vid propz
Some people just ask why don't they kill him?
1.batman doesn't kill why would he do the same thing that put him in said path that made him Batman death can be very traumatizing especially if you literally saw it infort of you as a kid
2.Gordon is in the same boat even tho joker fucked his life over
What we really should be blaming is Gotham's justice system can't really sentence an insane person to death