I watch GCN, Durianrider,Adam Watkins etc. You are easily the most eloquent, entertaining and convincingly honest. Based on this review, I want those wheels. Please continue to entertain us. Slam poetry- a whole new level.😂
Dude, thanks so much what an awesome comment! Really glad you like the video, I put loads of work into them, and stuff like this makes it totally worth it 😀
I've owned a set of their previous model 50mm high, 25mm wide Tubeless wheels since October 2018. After 15.000km they still ran pretty much true. Brake tracks don't show much wear, however the roads are pretty flat in the Netherlands. They were € 650 including duty prepaid shipping back then. Setting them up tubeless with GP 5000TL tires was a rather straightforward task using soapy water. Do top up the sealant every 3-4 months though. Recently I've also had someone build a set of custom CX wheels using the newer wide disc brake rims from Farsports. I would definitely recommend these products.
i just ordered the farsports feder wheels (45mm) clincher tubeless ready with white industries T11 hubs, sapim cx spokes with brass nipple. no holes, with ATA & HMX tech. USD1040 with shipping. thanks for the convincing video!
Directly after the poem i paused the Video, liked it and wrote this Comment... I dont even ride streetbikes, but i love each of your videos! Because of you im really considering buying a streetbike even ift my Enduro is not completely payd. Thanks.
LOVE your videos. I live in Thailand and have ordered multiple carbon road bike parts from AliExpress. Your videos are super informative and help me learn a lot :)
Love your videos mate! You should do this more frequently :) Have you ever bought some other cycling gear/equipment? You can do reviews or whatnot on clothing and stuff. Cheap but good quality gear from Chinese webshops. Keep em coming :)
Have a set of 35mm Kaze with Extralite hubs. Super impressed after more than 4000km on variable road surfaces and they're probably the best wheels I own (was using Bora Ultra before). Aim to buy a 69mm pair soon.
How is the brake track on the kaze, in terms of pad markings. I have standard farsports wheels and the track changes color to whatever brake pad color I use. Dont like that.
I'm on my second set of Farsport wheels. the first pair rode about 18k miles. sold them because i wanted a deeper dish. this one i have about 8500 miles and still operating flawlessly. had them built with DT swiss hubs.
Nice, good to know dude. I've been massively impressed with my set. 2500kms in and I haven't had to touch them. They are as true as they were out of the factory. The brake track is near perfect aswell.
@@TraceVelo my first set i had on a cervelo frame in which i crashed into a guardrail at 40+MP. I and broke everything including my Jaw and Neck, but not the the wheels. I trued them up and rode them another year and even did a few crits on them. Ive even seen them on some aero results listed as very good drag compared to many wheels. It appears we give up about 2 watts on an Evny wheel for a similar deep section. but i can buy 3 sets of these for the same price. WIN..
Few month ago, I have build by myself a wheelset with Farsport Kaze 35mm depth rims, for rim brakes, TLR without spokes holes in the rim bed, Yuniper Nitro hubs, Sapim CX-Ray spokes on the front wheel and on the NDS rear wheel, Sapim CX-Sprint on the DS of rear wheel, Sapim polyax nipples, final weight 1315gr. Very good wheeel, they are stiff and responsive like my Shimano Dura Ace C24, but more comfortable due to the wider rims internal width and more lighte, unfortunally after only 1000km the front wheel brake track has burned but Farsport replace the rim for free.
Great videos, I am really enjoying them, especially the intros, they are hilarious. As I have informed Farsports already, you were a decisive factor for my purchase, I couldn't find more detailed reviews online. I own a 50mm deep KAZE wheelset, tubular, rim brake, 1350g without quick releases, as you said, I was blown away by the quality of the wheelset and the difference in rolling, handling and stiffness (coming from aluminium 24 mm wheels...). I am not sure if your wheels have the ATA (anti to aqua design) like mine, but I can tell you that it makes a difference when braking in wet conditions. I am curious about the update on them and how are they performing now. Thanks.
After a few weeks of enjoying this channel I can whole wholeheartedly agree with other comments, great quality, advice and entertainment, best of luck on channel growth, shared to Facebook :)
Awesome review and video once again. I love your content. As an aspiring road cyclist I'm always looking for more information. I'm very methodical on the things I purchase and think each thing through very well. You definitely help with that!
Sometimes TH-cam throws you a gem… Such was the case with your video. Your cycling content was good. Your poetry was AWESOME! Kudos to you! You outshined all of the heavily produced cycling videos I watched today. Just goes to show that talent is still the most important thing in creating great content! Oh… Thanks for the tips on the wheels too! 😊
I'm dying. You make me laugh too hard. One day though I look forward to spotting you on your bike and dropping you on my ordered set of knockoff carbon wheels
I love your videos and use them as inspiration... ...and I'm following the motto "as fast as possible for as little as possible." At the beginning of the year I ordered a Merida Scultura 100 (8-speed) from Spain for 509 € and rode it until now completely stock, adjusted just the stem as low as the expander allows... I now ordered a 42 mm alloy mid section aero wheelset for 360 € (Veltec SPEED AL = 1850 g) to replace the stock 20 mm box section rims (>2100 g) and a pair of Grand Prix 5000 in 25 mm to get the most out of the bike... The 8-speed Claris R2000 is really impressive, the quality is top notch, shifting is reliably, but a bit slowly... it always takes a glance until the chain wanders up the cassette... on the other hand my DA 7700 shifts muuuch faster and crisper. I also have the problem that I drag the chain against the front derailleur almost permanently... my solution will be to install a 52/36 semi compact crank, so that I don't only ride the last 4 cogs of the cassette.
Great vlog Luke, on the carbon wheels, intro, funny as usual. I bought myself a set of CSC 50m clincher tubular carbon wheels £280, from China, and the quality is superb, half the price of what I would pay here, Now going to buy myself same frame as yours.👌🚲
@@Simon_is_not_sure hi Simon I got it from www.carbonspeedcycle.com/50mm-clincher-tubular-tubeless-carbon-bike-wheels-novatec-a291sb-f482sb-hub.html But they sell them through eBay by (Kingbike888) on the main website it does state £336 for these wheels, but they sell them on eBay for £279, and I had to pay Royal mail £25 delivery charge.# Hope that helps Regards Paul
Paul K Thanks for the info. Do you have an update on you CSC tubular wheels, I am looking to purchase them. Did you have any problems with them? How is the braking in the wet? How is the braking surface of the wheel now? Thanks in advance.
@@baractiberius6100 I have had these wheels now quite a few month's, and have done a lot of miles, as I don't really go out in the wet conditions, I cant give you an answer what there are like in the wet, but dry wise, fine I'm glad I bought these wheels, I have been impressed, and have noticed I've gone a lot faster , but be careful in the wind, especially cross winds, as you do get blown about, hope this helps.👍
For anyone interested, i bought a pair of FSL60CM-23U-2016 from Farsports in Mar-16 for $650, shipping to EU incl. Ie, 60mm deep, U shape, 23mm wide, with 2 carbon bottle cages, titanium skewers (durable & super light), 18mth warranty, Novatec A291SB / F482SB hubs, Sapim CX-delta spokes, weight ~1600g. I have the older version of the brake track and that caused issues. I actually used the warranty for both rims. One bulged when the bike was attached to the car during a road trip. Unsure what happened. Maybe the sun for 8 hours or vibrations from the car? On the rear rim, the brake track degraded enough that I asked for a replacement. Warranty was honored both times; you still pay shipping (~100$ each time). I relaced the wheels myself as i only received new rims and nipples. I use swiss top pads, the ones provided were useless. I don't trust those wheels for Dolomite type mountain descents, but I don't blindly trust my authentic Campagnolo Bora wheels either when it's about braking at hairpins from 70kmh. It's so easy to die down such mountains, you need to trust your gear... For anything else, especially triathlons or hilly races, they're great. Spokes and hubs are great. Stiff. Look cool. So my experience has been positive overall. I've clocked thousands on km on those 4 rims, but mostly flat and turbo. Mountain stages I usually end up with an alu front wheel, probably as a mental crutch more than anything. My next bike will have disk brakes. The break track is the main risk with those chinese carbon wheels, I believe, as long as you don't buy potential garbage from an unknown seller. Move to disk, and you have mountain proof setup for "cheap". For reference, i also have carbon unbranded carbon handlebars on a road bike, and those I now trust blindly to bomb down mountains. I usually do extensive research before buying.
Loved your poetry recital. Reminded me of an old Monty Python skit. Ian Mcdougall and the Midlands Bank if memory serves. Share your crippling obsession LOL. Finally subbed to your channel. Great work.
I’m loving the carbon testing exploration 😍🥰. On a more serious note I’m dying to build a cross country mtb bike. Something seriously light and I’d love to get your opinion on MTB Chinese wheels ? I’m truly not looking for a recommendation. I’m more interested in brands you trust ? (As far as anyone and anything can be trusted) any way Luke !! You’re me only hope 🤦🏼♂️😍🥰
@@tinman7551 IMO Yoleo is okay, but for a very similar price you might as well go for UK brand Hunt. Literally easy to find just search MTB yoleo wheels MTB hunt wheels Hunt only makes 1 carbon mtb wheel though Links if you want them or not. www.yoeleobike.com/mtb.html www.huntbikewheels.com/collections/mtb-wheels?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2vjuBRCqARIsAJL5a-KTFjMF6jmiMdxg2o7UQmHlyVMiomgQVc0_DrLhtuCavwl0cFHW3pwaAhdwEALw_wcB
Nice vid, especially your poem😀 I’ve had these wheels as well (dt 240s) They’re good wheels only downside, flex with standing on the pedals. As you now think they’re better than your Ebay set, you will think the same when you upgrade to even a higher level “brand” upgrade i’ll quess. Have a nice ride 👍
Hey Luke! Only recently discovered the channel and I’m loving it. I have a question. Do you recommend the carbon wheels on an aluminium frame? I’m interested in your opinion. Thanks
Thank you for review! I want couple quality, sub 1400gr, for good price wheels and Farsports is on my list now :D Breaking surface is the same as my Furcrum racing zero carbon, which is same quality but double the price.
Hi Luke, i just want your opinion on what to purchase.. a DTSwiss aloy wheelset that weights 1600g or an unbranded Chinese carbon wheelset that weights 1450g.. same in price. TIA
I bought some 60's from an eBay UK supplier. Paid £349 delivered. Upto now they are rock solid (touch wood). Weigh in around 1600g. Also what size is that frame? Look huge, I ride 61/62/63 frames, wouldn't mind taking a punt on a china one. I have some BITEX hubs which have an anti bite strip.
Hello there luke... Just wonder if you know the difference between KAZE, FEDER and CUSTOM wheels of FARSPORTS in terms weights among their set??? Sorry to ask you coz FARSPORT is not responding to my queries.. Thank you luke
Can you say something about maintenance for the spokes? I'm looking at tubeless wheels without the drilling, but I'm a bit afraid of what will happen when a spoke breaks
Yeah good question. The two part expoxies that are used in carbon fibre bike parts are very stable compounds once mixed, so no acetone won't damage carbon fibre parts. Many manufacturers actually recommend acetone. Be careful around the decals or paint however, it will strip those right off.
So yeah, I've had a look at Hunt wheels in the past. They are a little bit more expensive than these set of wheels, and the components are not quite as top end, unless you fork out the big bucks. For example in the sub £1000 range, they use cheaper pillar spokes and own brand hubs, while these use Sapim spokes and DT Swiss hubs. I will say tho, for a UK based company, the prices aren't too bad tbh...
Nice video. But I still don't get the sense of tubeless setup in a road bike (despite having it and loving it in my mtb bike). There are 3 "pros" being constantly repeated by people, probably "stolen" from mtb. First pro - you can use lower pressures - you can weigh 100 kg and safely use 5 bar on a 28c tire using innertube (tested by me personally over last couple of years) - I don't think anyone needs lower pressure on a road bike, we are not talking about gravel bikes here. Second pro - small punctures will be fixed automatically by sealant - first of all, I don't think punctures are an issue in road bikes world, most of the road riders, including myself, have a puncture once per x thousands km and then it is often something big which wouldn't be sealed anyway, second of all (this is what I read, didn't try myself) - sealing in very high pressure usually looks like: tire starts spitting sealant all over the place and after a while when the pressure gets much lower, then eventually sealant seals the hole. Third pro - tubeless setup is lighter than a traditional setup with innertubes. What is true for for mtb, where innertubes are much, much heavier, doesn't have to be true for road. So: tubeless ready rims are usually heavier comparing to the same/similar models which are not tubeless ready (it can be something about 50g or even more per pair), tubeless tires are heavier (160g per pair of Contis 5000 25c TL vs classic) you have to add the weight of sealant (depending on how much sealant is used, but I don't think you will get lower than 60-70g per set), valves (probably also few tens of grams) and tubeless tape. Pair of light innertubes weighs about 140-150g or even 100g if you use latex ones, so in summary tubeless setup's weight is higher. For these not true pros above I would add that bicyclerollingresistance study proves that tire with tubeless setup have much more rolling resistance than tire with latex innertube, much more than a tire with light butyl innertube and just a bit less than a tire with standard innertube. And I would also add the higher price and maintenance of tubeless setups. So in summary - there is really no sense to go with tubeless for a road bike, even if youtubers repeat one after another how cool it is :).
Hi! Thnx for awesome videos. Im interested in buying but the link is broken. Searching farsports for kaze I can only find wheels that cost over 1000$. Has the price gone up?
BTW what is your weight? Rim brake track wear depend, somewhat, on that... 60kg vs. 80k. Yes/no? Oh! for the 80+ size rider, do these come in 28 spoke rear?
Congrats mate keep it up you have done more than others could ever dream of, I would love to throw a suggestion perhaps you can suggest a frame for single speed or fixie riders, I'd much appreciate it, cheers.
Flavored beer...”what a looser”....no accounting for taste. Trace, you should have had snapping fingers for applause at the end of your riotous poetry. Still waiting for a cyclocross 1 by build using cheap Chinese components. Microshift Advent X paired to a $500 frame would be a great place to start. Great wheel review by the way! Thanks..Northern Cal.
Give us more!! Videos! And maybe test the Sensah empire groupset. Also I would love some Chinese Powermeter magic. Hope the views pay the cheap Chinese components at least.
why do you have the pro lite Bracciano? Im deciding between them and the Campagnolo zonda, just want an aluminium breaking surface, any opinions? you're a legend
What was the import duty & VAT when you got these from China ? the USD sticker price looks attractive, but I presume the total cost after import is a bit higher?
I had the same type of brake track on mu custom chinese carbon rim..the rear rim brake track bulging after a few thousand KM of combination of fast chased group ride, long stady ride, and hill climbs..so still be careful if you use them with heavy braking
How is the brake track on these? I have the farsports normal wheels and the brake track builds a lot of residue changing color to whatever pad you run. Looks like crap.You can see some residue on these as well?
So the brake tracks have held up great so far, but as you say, carbon rim brake tracks will build up brake pad residue over time. I use pure acetone on my carbon brake tracks to clean this off once every 2 weeks or so. But be careful, because acetone is strong stuff and can strip any paint and decals right off.
My farsports clinchers 25x23 extradite hub + Sapim cx-ray spokes. The weight is about 1100g if you'll believe that. They haven't warped in the slightest even after a year and a half, thousands of kilometers. I recommend farsports. Oh and you can barter the price with them. Mine were 1100 US
Yeah some of them do, but often to cut costs, they don't bother shipping the wheels with them. You can quite easily find replacements with either a full steel freehub body, or steel inserts to prevent as much bite.
Wow I’m startled by how bad that cassette bite is. I’ve trashed my mountain bike cassette and it’s got zero damage on the body. No idea if it’s aluminum or steel but make sure you’re tighting your lock ring enough or that could cause quick wear
Yeah it's not great, but it's just what I've come to expect with aluminium freehubs these days. It's the same regardless of manufacturer. Plus you can always pick up steel replacements, which will negate the problem entirely.
carbon itself is NOT an insulator, it's one of the best heat conductive materials available, it's the resin matrix that hinders heat transfer, thus insulating the heat inside the composite structure
I finally got a frame (a beautiful all internal carbon aero w/thru axle) and i need some wheels. do you think you'll get better bang per buck buying a carbon rim, hub/nipples/spokes of your choice and having them laced locally or buying something like these and maybe upgrading the hub/nipples/spokes later?
Ahmed Agbabiaka I bought a csc rim and had it laced up locally. I carnt vouch for fully made wheel but doing it this way has big bonuses 1 : high quality spokes 2: built by local skilled builder with trueing warranty 3: ability to use whatever quality of hub you want 3: big savings if you recycle an old hub from a rim you no longer use 4: ability to convert your wheel to dynamo hub self powered lighting which I did.
Hey fred, yeah honestly not too bad, GCN did a great video on fitting tubeless tyres, which I followed, and I was able to get them fitted using just my hands, no tyre levers required. Getting them properly seated with just a track pump was a bit of struggle, but by removing the valve cores, and pumping fast enough, I was able to get them seated pretty easily actually. Takes some practice, but you can do it using just a track pump.
I think not.. Hunt's rims are also made in Asia, so even, as far as that goes.. But, with inexpensive, Chinese hubs they cost a bit more than a Kaze wheelset with DT240s... And they use Pillar spokes vs. Sapim's top-notch CX-Rays on Farsports.
I watch GCN, Durianrider,Adam Watkins etc. You are easily the most eloquent, entertaining and convincingly honest. Based on this review, I want those wheels. Please continue to entertain us. Slam poetry- a whole new level.😂
Dude, thanks so much what an awesome comment! Really glad you like the video, I put loads of work into them, and stuff like this makes it totally worth it 😀
Absolutely agree! Love this channel, wish you had more time to make more vids 😍
Douglas Ramsay 100% agree!!!! I watch those guys also. You are the winner!!!
Who the hell is Adam Watkins?
Alien On a Bike fookin a RIGHT!!!
Man, the quality of your videos is really impressive, much better than most pro outfits out there. I really enjoy your channel, thanks a lot!!!
that intro had me tears. Also swiss stop pro brake pads are 100% worth it.
Awesome, glad you liked the intro! But yeah was sceptical if Swiss stop pads would be worth the cash, but I gotta say I'm impressed with them!
@@TraceVelo the intro was real good.
I've owned a set of their previous model 50mm high, 25mm wide Tubeless wheels since October 2018. After 15.000km they still ran pretty much true. Brake tracks don't show much wear, however the roads are pretty flat in the Netherlands. They were € 650 including duty prepaid shipping back then. Setting them up tubeless with GP 5000TL tires was a rather straightforward task using soapy water. Do top up the sealant every 3-4 months though.
Recently I've also had someone build a set of custom CX wheels using the newer wide disc brake rims from Farsports. I would definitely recommend these products.
Heb je ze op AliExpress gekocht of via eBay ?
@@AsantePE Ik heb direct contact gehad met farsports via email om een custom order te plaatsen. Erg goede ervaring heb ik daarmee gehad.
Another cracking video Luke, I really enjoy the humour and the thorough way you go through things. Keep up the good work!
The Kelvin, really appreciate it!
i just ordered the farsports feder wheels (45mm) clincher tubeless ready with white industries T11 hubs, sapim cx spokes with brass nipple. no holes, with ATA & HMX tech. USD1040 with shipping. thanks for the convincing video!
Always a joy to see your videos pop into the feed! More please 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Bruce! 🙏
Opening was 🔥🔥🔥
I’ve been using a set of Farsport Kaze 45 mm x 26 mm disc wheels with FT240 EXP hubs for 2600 km and they are absolutely perfect.
Directly after the poem i paused the Video, liked it and wrote this Comment...
I dont even ride streetbikes, but i love each of your videos!
Because of you im really considering buying a streetbike even ift my Enduro is not completely payd.
Thanks.
This channel is effing genius. Cycling without the bullshit and a genuinely funny presenter. Keep it up 👍.
LOVE your videos. I live in Thailand and have ordered multiple carbon road bike parts from AliExpress. Your videos are super informative and help me learn a lot :)
Thanks Harry, really appreciate it, glad you like the videos! Would love to go cycling round Thailand one day!
You’re funny, honest and very thorough without being boring!!!
The best reviewer on the web. The effort you go to results in a great great final product.
Thanks James, really appreciate it!!
Love your videos mate! You should do this more frequently :)
Have you ever bought some other cycling gear/equipment? You can do reviews or whatnot on clothing and stuff. Cheap but good quality gear from Chinese webshops.
Keep em coming :)
Have a set of 35mm Kaze with Extralite hubs. Super impressed after more than 4000km on variable road surfaces and they're probably the best wheels I own (was using Bora Ultra before). Aim to buy a 69mm pair soon.
How is the brake track on the kaze, in terms of pad markings. I have standard farsports wheels and the track changes color to whatever brake pad color I use. Dont like that.
@@peterlaskiewicz8252 No issues with the Kaze
Another superb video Luke, very professional and entertaining.
I'm on my second set of Farsport wheels. the first pair rode about 18k miles. sold them because i wanted a deeper dish. this one i have about 8500 miles and still operating flawlessly. had them built with DT swiss hubs.
Nice, good to know dude. I've been massively impressed with my set. 2500kms in and I haven't had to touch them. They are as true as they were out of the factory. The brake track is near perfect aswell.
@@TraceVelo my first set i had on a cervelo frame in which i crashed into a guardrail at 40+MP. I and broke everything including my Jaw and Neck, but not the the wheels. I trued them up and rode them another year and even did a few crits on them. Ive even seen them on some aero results listed as very good drag compared to many wheels. It appears we give up about 2 watts on an Evny wheel for a similar deep section. but i can buy 3 sets of these for the same price. WIN..
Enjoyed all your reviews. Great job. Thank you for sharing all your invaluable time and testings.
Oh WOW do I want a set of the pretty colored rims 😍🥰❤️ and that price $700 ! That’s awesome. Great video thanks.
Few month ago, I have build by myself a wheelset with Farsport Kaze 35mm depth rims, for rim brakes, TLR without spokes holes in the rim bed, Yuniper Nitro hubs, Sapim CX-Ray spokes on the front wheel and on the NDS rear wheel, Sapim CX-Sprint on the DS of rear wheel, Sapim polyax nipples, final weight 1315gr. Very good wheeel, they are stiff and responsive like my Shimano Dura Ace C24, but more comfortable due to the wider rims internal width and more lighte, unfortunally after only 1000km the front wheel brake track has burned but Farsport replace the rim for free.
Great videos, I am really enjoying them, especially the intros, they are hilarious. As I have informed Farsports already, you were a decisive factor for my purchase, I couldn't find more detailed reviews online. I own a 50mm deep KAZE wheelset, tubular, rim brake, 1350g without quick releases, as you said, I was blown away by the quality of the wheelset and the difference in rolling, handling and stiffness (coming from aluminium 24 mm wheels...). I am not sure if your wheels have the ATA (anti to aqua design) like mine, but I can tell you that it makes a difference when braking in wet conditions. I am curious about the update on them and how are they performing now. Thanks.
After a few weeks of enjoying this channel I can whole wholeheartedly agree with other comments, great quality, advice and entertainment, best of luck on channel growth, shared to Facebook :)
OK, I subscribed after the intro, but after the Mighty Boosh reference I clicked the notification bell
Mr poet laureate 2019. Nicely done
Awesome review and video once again. I love your content. As an aspiring road cyclist I'm always looking for more information. I'm very methodical on the things I purchase and think each thing through very well. You definitely help with that!
Sometimes TH-cam throws you a gem… Such was the case with your video. Your cycling content was good. Your poetry was AWESOME! Kudos to you! You outshined all of the heavily produced cycling videos I watched today. Just goes to show that talent is still the most important thing in creating great content! Oh… Thanks for the tips on the wheels too! 😊
I'm dying. You make me laugh too hard. One day though I look forward to spotting you on your bike and dropping you on my ordered set of knockoff carbon wheels
I love your videos and use them as inspiration... ...and I'm following the motto "as fast as possible for as little as possible."
At the beginning of the year I ordered a Merida Scultura 100 (8-speed) from Spain for 509 € and rode it until now completely stock, adjusted just the stem as low as the expander allows... I now ordered a 42 mm alloy mid section aero wheelset for 360 € (Veltec SPEED AL = 1850 g) to replace the stock 20 mm box section rims (>2100 g) and a pair of Grand Prix 5000 in 25 mm to get the most out of the bike...
The 8-speed Claris R2000 is really impressive, the quality is top notch, shifting is reliably, but a bit slowly... it always takes a glance until the chain wanders up the cassette... on the other hand my DA 7700 shifts muuuch faster and crisper. I also have the problem that I drag the chain against the front derailleur almost permanently... my solution will be to install a 52/36 semi compact crank, so that I don't only ride the last 4 cogs of the cassette.
Just watched all your videos. Hope you continue to produce more content. Cheers.
Great vlog Luke, on the carbon wheels, intro, funny as usual.
I bought myself a set of CSC 50m clincher tubular carbon wheels £280, from China, and the quality is superb, half the price of what I would pay here, Now going to buy myself same frame as yours.👌🚲
And please which wheels have you bought? At best could post a link? Thanks 😍
@@Simon_is_not_sure hi Simon I got it from
www.carbonspeedcycle.com/50mm-clincher-tubular-tubeless-carbon-bike-wheels-novatec-a291sb-f482sb-hub.html
But they sell them through eBay by (Kingbike888) on the main website it does state £336 for these wheels, but they sell them on eBay for £279, and I had to pay Royal mail £25 delivery charge.#
Hope that helps
Regards
Paul
@@paulk232 Thanks a lot mate
Paul K Thanks for the info. Do you have an update on you CSC tubular wheels, I am looking to purchase them. Did you have any problems with them? How is the braking in the wet? How is the braking surface of the wheel now? Thanks in advance.
@@baractiberius6100 I have had these wheels now quite a few month's, and have done a lot of miles, as I don't really go out in the wet conditions, I cant give you an answer what there are like in the wet, but dry wise, fine
I'm glad I bought these wheels, I have been impressed, and have noticed I've gone a lot faster , but be careful in the wind, especially cross winds, as you do get blown about, hope this helps.👍
For anyone interested, i bought a pair of FSL60CM-23U-2016 from Farsports in Mar-16 for $650, shipping to EU incl. Ie, 60mm deep, U shape, 23mm wide, with 2 carbon bottle cages, titanium skewers (durable & super light), 18mth warranty, Novatec A291SB / F482SB hubs, Sapim CX-delta spokes, weight ~1600g. I have the older version of the brake track and that caused issues. I actually used the warranty for both rims. One bulged when the bike was attached to the car during a road trip. Unsure what happened. Maybe the sun for 8 hours or vibrations from the car? On the rear rim, the brake track degraded enough that I asked for a replacement. Warranty was honored both times; you still pay shipping (~100$ each time). I relaced the wheels myself as i only received new rims and nipples. I use swiss top pads, the ones provided were useless. I don't trust those wheels for Dolomite type mountain descents, but I don't blindly trust my authentic Campagnolo Bora wheels either when it's about braking at hairpins from 70kmh. It's so easy to die down such mountains, you need to trust your gear... For anything else, especially triathlons or hilly races, they're great. Spokes and hubs are great. Stiff. Look cool. So my experience has been positive overall. I've clocked thousands on km on those 4 rims, but mostly flat and turbo. Mountain stages I usually end up with an alu front wheel, probably as a mental crutch more than anything. My next bike will have disk brakes. The break track is the main risk with those chinese carbon wheels, I believe, as long as you don't buy potential garbage from an unknown seller. Move to disk, and you have mountain proof setup for "cheap". For reference, i also have carbon unbranded carbon handlebars on a road bike, and those I now trust blindly to bomb down mountains. I usually do extensive research before buying.
Top notch video! This might be my new favorite channel.
Wicked, thanks bud!!!
Greatest intro to any cycling video EVER!
Loved your poetry recital. Reminded me of an old Monty Python skit. Ian Mcdougall and the Midlands Bank if memory serves. Share your crippling obsession LOL. Finally subbed to your channel. Great work.
I thumbed up for the introduction before seeing the review.
Absolutely wheel done review. PRO LEVEL !
I’m loving the carbon testing exploration 😍🥰. On a more serious note I’m dying to build a cross country mtb bike. Something seriously light and I’d love to get your opinion on MTB Chinese wheels ? I’m truly not looking for a recommendation. I’m more interested in brands you trust ? (As far as anyone and anything can be trusted) any way Luke !! You’re me only hope 🤦🏼♂️😍🥰
Yoleo may have what you need mate
Ian R cheers 🤗
@@tinman7551 IMO Yoleo is okay, but for a very similar price you might as well go for UK brand Hunt.
Literally easy to find just search
MTB yoleo wheels
MTB hunt wheels
Hunt only makes 1 carbon mtb wheel though
Links if you want them or not.
www.yoeleobike.com/mtb.html
www.huntbikewheels.com/collections/mtb-wheels?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2vjuBRCqARIsAJL5a-KTFjMF6jmiMdxg2o7UQmHlyVMiomgQVc0_DrLhtuCavwl0cFHW3pwaAhdwEALw_wcB
@@hellopsp180 Hunt, interesting.. I always thought theu were out of my price range, I will enquire. Thank you :D
Hey Luke, have you asked Trace if he's got an updated review on the wheelset ?
Keep up with these kind of videos!
Cheers
Nice vid, especially your poem😀 I’ve had these wheels as well (dt 240s) They’re good wheels only downside, flex with standing on the pedals.
As you now think they’re better than your Ebay set, you will think the same when you upgrade to even a higher level “brand” upgrade i’ll quess.
Have a nice ride 👍
Hey Luke! Only recently discovered the channel and I’m loving it.
I have a question. Do you recommend the carbon wheels on an aluminium frame? I’m interested in your opinion.
Thanks
Slam poetry segment was a classic!! Hilarious!!
Thank you for review! I want couple quality, sub 1400gr, for good price wheels and Farsports is on my list now :D Breaking surface is the same as my Furcrum racing zero carbon, which is same quality but double the price.
Hi Luke, i just want your opinion on what to purchase.. a DTSwiss aloy wheelset that weights 1600g or an unbranded Chinese carbon wheelset that weights 1450g.. same in price. TIA
I bought some 60's from an eBay UK supplier. Paid £349 delivered. Upto now they are rock solid (touch wood). Weigh in around 1600g. Also what size is that frame? Look huge, I ride 61/62/63 frames, wouldn't mind taking a punt on a china one. I have some BITEX hubs which have an anti bite strip.
greatest Intro in the history of introooss
Ok you get a like for the slam poetry alone
Steady channel growth. Looking good trace!
Thanks Demogan, yeah would love to hit 10k before 2020! 🙏🙏🙏
@@TraceVelo it's looking good so far. Ive been very busy these days preparing for school in January. Not much time for TH-cam
@@TraceVelo Might be 40K by 2021, I hope so. A lot of hard work behind the scenes I bet.
Your videos are superb. Detailed info on exactly the stuff I’ve been looking at in Ebay. Thank you for taking the time to make and show them!! 👍👍👍🚴♂️
Hello there luke... Just wonder if you know the difference between KAZE, FEDER and CUSTOM wheels of FARSPORTS in terms weights among their set??? Sorry to ask you coz FARSPORT is not responding to my queries.. Thank you luke
These are the kind of videos I'm waiting for!!!!!
Can you say something about maintenance for the spokes? I'm looking at tubeless wheels without the drilling, but I'm a bit afraid of what will happen when a spoke breaks
FARSPORTS CARBON FIBER WHEELSET 50MM (DISC BRAKE) how good and reliable is this wheel set? Thank you
Asking because i don't know:
Doesn't acetone damage the epoxy used in the carbon or the material for the brake track?
Yeah good question. The two part expoxies that are used in carbon fibre bike parts are very stable compounds once mixed, so no acetone won't damage carbon fibre parts. Many manufacturers actually recommend acetone. Be careful around the decals or paint however, it will strip those right off.
Luke !!pls make a vid on which tyres to buy
@Trace Velo. Have you ever considered looking at the brand HUNT based in UK
So yeah, I've had a look at Hunt wheels in the past. They are a little bit more expensive than these set of wheels, and the components are not quite as top end, unless you fork out the big bucks. For example in the sub £1000 range, they use cheaper pillar spokes and own brand hubs, while these use Sapim spokes and DT Swiss hubs. I will say tho, for a UK based company, the prices aren't too bad tbh...
Best reviews on TH-cam!
I buy nothing but Farsport, Elite, and Hyper wheels now. Tried almost everything of the more well known Chinese branded wheels.
Hey Luke, awesome content. Keep it up! Any chance of an update on these wheels? How are they holding up?
Nice video. But I still don't get the sense of tubeless setup in a road bike (despite having it and loving it in my mtb bike). There are 3 "pros" being constantly repeated by people, probably "stolen" from mtb. First pro - you can use lower pressures - you can weigh 100 kg and safely use 5 bar on a 28c tire using innertube (tested by me personally over last couple of years) - I don't think anyone needs lower pressure on a road bike, we are not talking about gravel bikes here. Second pro - small punctures will be fixed automatically by sealant - first of all, I don't think punctures are an issue in road bikes world, most of the road riders, including myself, have a puncture once per x thousands km and then it is often something big which wouldn't be sealed anyway, second of all (this is what I read, didn't try myself) - sealing in very high pressure usually looks like: tire starts spitting sealant all over the place and after a while when the pressure gets much lower, then eventually sealant seals the hole. Third pro - tubeless setup is lighter than a traditional setup with innertubes. What is true for for mtb, where innertubes are much, much heavier, doesn't have to be true for road. So: tubeless ready rims are usually heavier comparing to the same/similar models which are not tubeless ready (it can be something about 50g or even more per pair), tubeless tires are heavier (160g per pair of Contis 5000 25c TL vs classic) you have to add the weight of sealant (depending on how much sealant is used, but I don't think you will get lower than 60-70g per set), valves (probably also few tens of grams) and tubeless tape. Pair of light innertubes weighs about 140-150g or even 100g if you use latex ones, so in summary tubeless setup's weight is higher. For these not true pros above I would add that bicyclerollingresistance study proves that tire with tubeless setup have much more rolling resistance than tire with latex innertube, much more than a tire with light butyl innertube and just a bit less than a tire with standard innertube. And I would also add the higher price and maintenance of tubeless setups. So in summary - there is really no sense to go with tubeless for a road bike, even if youtubers repeat one after another how cool it is :).
You've obviously never tried it on a road bike, to seal my GP 5000 TL tire I only needed a normal pump and 3-4 strokes before hearing the "pop".
@@HellGatefr2 How does it refer to what I wrote?
Thanks for the great advice. Looking into Farsport wheels now. Btw.... what bar tape is that please?
Hi! Thnx for awesome videos. Im interested in buying but the link is broken. Searching farsports for kaze I can only find wheels that cost over 1000$. Has the price gone up?
You are one funny, entertaining dude. Keep up the good work.
BTW what is your weight? Rim brake track wear depend, somewhat, on that... 60kg vs. 80k. Yes/no? Oh! for the 80+ size rider, do these come in 28 spoke rear?
Congrats mate keep it up you have done more than others could ever dream of, I would love to throw a suggestion perhaps you can suggest a frame for single speed or fixie riders, I'd much appreciate it, cheers.
Flavored beer...”what a looser”....no accounting for taste. Trace, you should have had snapping fingers for applause at the end of your riotous poetry. Still waiting for a cyclocross 1 by build using cheap Chinese components. Microshift Advent X paired to a $500 frame would be a great place to start. Great wheel review by the way! Thanks..Northern Cal.
Just ran into your videos, can't stop watching them. You're f'n hilarious.
Give us more!! Videos! And maybe test the Sensah empire groupset. Also I would love some Chinese Powermeter magic. Hope the views pay the cheap Chinese components at least.
why do you have the pro lite Bracciano? Im deciding between them and the Campagnolo zonda, just want an aluminium breaking surface, any opinions? you're a legend
At the beginning of each episode I am always waiting with great suspense to find out if your name remained Luke or not.
What was the import duty & VAT when you got these from China ? the USD sticker price looks attractive, but I presume the total cost after import is a bit higher?
Hi,do you advise spoke holes in rim or not?
Genius intro!. Great video.
I had the same type of brake track on mu custom chinese carbon rim..the rear rim brake track bulging after a few thousand KM of combination of fast chased group ride, long stady ride, and hill climbs..so still be careful if you use them with heavy braking
How is the brake track on these? I have the farsports normal wheels and the brake track builds a lot of residue changing color to whatever pad you run. Looks like crap.You can see some residue on these as well?
So the brake tracks have held up great so far, but as you say, carbon rim brake tracks will build up brake pad residue over time. I use pure acetone on my carbon brake tracks to clean this off once every 2 weeks or so. But be careful, because acetone is strong stuff and can strip any paint and decals right off.
What's the brand/make of your Bike Frame?? Thak You =) And How much is the frame set? =)
What you think of superteam wheels? Specially the trispoke ones?
My farsports clinchers 25x23 extradite hub + Sapim cx-ray spokes. The weight is about 1100g if you'll believe that. They haven't warped in the slightest even after a year and a half, thousands of kilometers. I recommend farsports. Oh and you can barter the price with them. Mine were 1100 US
I wish more of these aluminum free hub bodies would at least put some steal spline inserts to prevent or at least minimize cassette bite
Yeah some of them do, but often to cut costs, they don't bother shipping the wheels with them. You can quite easily find replacements with either a full steel freehub body, or steel inserts to prevent as much bite.
@@TraceVelo did you put 40nm on that screw? Such damage happens normally when it's way less than 40...
Powerful poetry - well done intro .... video magic
Just looked at Farsports website and the Kaze wheelsets start at $1000 and no DT 350 hubs? Great video by the way.
Yeah in all honesty, the website isn't particularly easy to navigate. If you are interested i would drop them a message with the chat function.
Wow I’m startled by how bad that cassette bite is. I’ve trashed my mountain bike cassette and it’s got zero damage on the body. No idea if it’s aluminum or steel but make sure you’re tighting your lock ring enough or that could cause quick wear
Yeah it's not great, but it's just what I've come to expect with aluminium freehubs these days. It's the same regardless of manufacturer. Plus you can always pick up steel replacements, which will negate the problem entirely.
Trace Velo yeah definitely never using aluminum freehubs ever
Even more impressed that you're on the real ales !!
That freehub cassette bite is shocking! Did you say that was 640kms?! That's madness.
Any alternatives at this original price? they have sky rocketed now!!!!
Hey bro, how are these wheels going? Eager for your update!
carbon itself is NOT an insulator, it's one of the best heat conductive materials available, it's the resin matrix that hinders heat transfer, thus insulating the heat inside the composite structure
I'm gonna get a pair !
I finally got a frame (a beautiful all internal carbon aero w/thru axle) and i need some wheels. do you think you'll get better bang per buck buying a carbon rim, hub/nipples/spokes of your choice and having them laced locally or buying something like these and maybe upgrading the hub/nipples/spokes later?
Ahmed Agbabiaka I bought a csc rim and had it laced up locally. I carnt vouch for fully made wheel but doing it this way has big bonuses
1 : high quality spokes
2: built by local skilled builder with trueing warranty
3: ability to use whatever quality of hub you want
3: big savings if you recycle an old hub from a rim you no longer use
4: ability to convert your wheel to dynamo hub self powered lighting which I did.
Liking this vid just from the first 3 secs
Have they suddenly increased the price?
jon m ouch what happened to the price!
Yes they doubled it if look for the specs for the video ones
Typical foul practise.
@@preetn89 They are 100 more than the video. Hardly double.
Are those configured the same as his?
How do you like those Schwalbe Pro Ones? I generally run Continental Gatorskins on my road bikes.
www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/specials/best-road-bike-tires
Hello again buddy ...how easy or hard was it to fit the Pro 1 tyres overthe rim and did they seat easily?
Hey fred, yeah honestly not too bad, GCN did a great video on fitting tubeless tyres, which I followed, and I was able to get them fitted using just my hands, no tyre levers required. Getting them properly seated with just a track pump was a bit of struggle, but by removing the valve cores, and pumping fast enough, I was able to get them seated pretty easily actually. Takes some practice, but you can do it using just a track pump.
@@TraceVelo Thanks buddy
I know it seems wacky,but Im 180 lbs and run 70 to 75 psi in my normal tubed wheels with zero problems. For years.
incred quality bro keep it up ;)
The only upgrade I feel is missing before you start with a rimbrake version is a video where you install an aero stem!
Just bought Kaze 69 with carbon ti hubs, lets see what they got
Love my farsports
This is insane - congrats!!!
Good review. Checked out the link to purchase but the price has gone up notably, I think better off looking at Hunt given their new pricing
I think not.. Hunt's rims are also made in Asia, so even, as far as that goes.. But, with inexpensive, Chinese hubs they cost a bit more than a Kaze wheelset with DT240s... And they use Pillar spokes vs. Sapim's top-notch CX-Rays on Farsports.