that's pretty cool to have such a quality check on that Northward design room, yet bring creative input such as a verse massage and a different chorus eq, love it!
Always thought of that, it impacts so hard psychologically when using knobs that big getting the feeling of: Hey, this might be a "SMALL" 0.5dB boost but a "MASSIVE" impact for the mix, take care.
Why would you do that? A guy is going to boost your 50hz just for no reason! He thinks all kick drums need a thump there. He is a complete amateur if he does things as he explains them.
@@RP-vq4wd ya know this is for a video... his genuine master of this song wasn’t done in the 6 minutes of the video lol. He was giving a simple recreation around what he did.
Nice work. I generally opt for using automation instead of doing multiple passes for certain sections, but its always interesting to see different mastering approaches.
As a mastering engineer let me translate a couple of things "I liked where the mix was and didn't add much EQ" = The mix was smashed at source "I didn't add much limiter" =The mix was smashed at source
its the least musical and most technical i think, and training your ear for it is the trickiest. youre still part of the artistic parts but it is more technical and precise than other parts.
@@Fyuesiy this. and mixing engineers say a lot it is not only how good/bad you are at mastering, but it is also the fact that are fully fresh unbiased ears focused on the most technical part, encode, objective loudness, etc.
@@jamelehampton4255 Audio is music. If you've ever watched a mastering engineer at work, it's very musical and impacts what the listener feels because of how they make it feel. It's not sterile.
Great video, excellent way of taking us along the journey and sharing ideas. Just an FYI, i hope you give your ears a break from listening at those levels. You may not think its loud, but even an hour a day at that level of the choruses will damage your hearing. That’s why such a high percentage of mixing/mastering engineers have tinnitus and other hearing problems by their 30’s. It leads to a lot of bad mixes and remorseful engineers.
@@fromtheashbandofficial thank you for response! I have never seen that daw before! I noticed there were very presise automation curves in this software from other videos on youtube, it seemed compelling
Maybe I'm missing something because I can't watch the "full video on mwtm.com", but this was an extremely lackluster video. He slapped some EQ on the chorus buildup and added compression? That's it? I'd expect there to be a lot more time put into mastering this track and an informative explanation for each method deployed. Maybe this is targeted toward a broad audience with little knowledge on mastering, but could we get some more detail going forward?
When presented with a mix as pristine as this I think less is definitely more. And let's face it, if the mix is where it should be, mastering will merely involve very subtle moves, as demonstrated here.
@@MuscleEire totally agree! I just didn't think it was a well put together video for something like this. I would've liked more detail on what made the mix so great to begin with and why it didn't need to be changed.
can't help but notice mastering hardware has much better knobs than mixing hardware. mixing hardware is all midcentury stuff but the mastering gear is all sleek and shiny. mastering studios look like a god damn ikea catalog. also this dude looks like he hasnt slept in days
Maybe they sound super crappy, which is exactly the point: Make it sound good(acceptable) on crappy gear will highly likely sound great on good gear. That's why Yamaha NS-10's were, and still are popular: They don't sound great, but make it work on NS-10's, and it'll translate to other systems. And because they were in most studio's everybody knows how they sound. Most important thing is to KNOW your monitoring system: Headphones or speakers(What kind, or brand doesn't really matter)...There are a couple of mixing, and mastering engineers who work with headphones only. They know their headphones. Also, this way you are never bound to a room. Every (untreated)room makes speakers sounds different, even the same speakers due to room acoustics. So if you know your headphones, you can travel the world whilst still doing your job/hobby.
Joe mastered our track Lonely Nights and we we’re absolutely blown away by his work. Definitely sending our next EP over - thanks Joe! Click here to listen open.spotify.com/track/72d0zUM7tsrjOF9N9LlQOz?si=_gqinG5yQ5WWRiMjZykJPA
I couldn't hear anything he did at all, but at least he was honest when he said it didn't really need anything and so didn't really do anything at all.....
Great improvements! But it does seem like that this could have been done during the mix. The whole idea of a getting a mix the way the producer/engineer wants, then sending it out for someone else to change it, even in small ways, is a bit odd when you think about it. If Joe sent this out after his work on it....to someone else...they might hear something and change it yet again, it could go on forever. In the late Sixties while recording at Abbey Road we would go up to the cutting (vinyl) room and one day discovered they could add EQ to our songs, and started asking them "Hey could you make it brighter?" .....they finally said..."Boys, all of that should have been done before you brought the tape up here to us" ;)
@@caspermaster-com He did...that's what I mean. He got to sound the way he wanted. Now someone else is going to make it sound more like what he wants it to sound like...etc. Nothing wrong with using many different ears, but unless there is an obvious mistake in the mix, the changes could go on forever depending on who's listening, and it what room, on what monitors, etc.
@@TheAerovons Mastering and mixing are separate processes mentaly and practically, thats why usually its good to have a mastering engineer, focused on the craft and fresh perspective. Your points are valid, but you say you like the canges, yet the werent done by the mix engineer, so it usually gets bettyer with a good collab between mix and mastering engineer
I guess ( and I'm not an expert ) what's going on here is these engineers are adding their own 'artistic touch' to the product. They don't say that because that would come across as egocentric and at that stage it should be strictly a technical job. That is why other ears would hear something different and make different changes and so on. And that is why producers or whoever is in charge choose different Mastering engineers based on their style.
@@caspermaster-com Well they have certainly have become that today...I've been recording forever, in major studios, since a teenager (a LONG time ago). Never used to be like that. It's a definite improvement to have a mastering room and 2nd set of ears. But still, if the control room where it was recorded is excellent, and the engineer is excellent......it just becomes another take on the track. And again, it could then be sent to yet ANOTHER mastering engineer, who might have his own ideas. The possibilities are endless, as they say.
I'm really not a fan of generic moves by mastering engineers. Joe says: 'i'm gonna start with one of favourite moves, a 50Hz boost, just to get the thump of the kick out.' To me that is a very underwhelming approach. Frequencies should be dialled in, in my humble opinion, and I would love to hear Joe & other top-tier engineer's thoughts on this. I have zero doubt that the results would be better if frequencies were manually and carefully dialled in. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? I reckon a lot of these tracks have a flat shape overall due to bad approaches (rather than lack of talen on the engineer's part).
My opinion: that "move" would completely ruin my mix and low-end balance of my track. My kick is thumping enough, don't touch that main frequency or you will end up screwing everything. :)
Why in hell do you have to use digital compression!!!! Loudness wars!!! Todays engineers don't know shit about mastering period. Get lessons from Kevin Gray dude.
Holy cow.. so basically this guy did nothing and got paid a lot of money for it? He kept saying, “I’m not gonna mess with it cause they did such a good job”.. sooooo you turned the chorus up to make it louder? Yeah no sht..
Vocals perfectly autotuned, the drums edited and quantized to the grid, all soul has been squeezed out, but hey it works perfectly as backround noise in a car radio...
“Haha autotune bad look guys my opinion is so superior” I highly doubt you listen for tempo variation or minor imperfections in vocals. You, like many other people who think this way, probably just think all pop is bad because “autotune bad!”
Hi. 🙂 Thanks for putting this video together. Please, let us pray together. Dear God who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever in Jesus Christ's name we pray amen. 1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all that you do be done in love. Philippians 4:19 And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 1:2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. May all suffering end as we give thanks this day. May God's face shine upon us forever on Earth as it is in Heaven in Jesus Christ's name we pray for His name and for His sake. Amen.
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that's pretty cool to have such a quality check on that Northward design room, yet bring creative input such as a verse massage and a different chorus eq, love it!
I love his approach!! He thinks like a mixer but as a mastering engineer ❤
Nice ATC Northward room to check the low end. Most mixing rooms don’t have that speaker quality so it’s nice to have a person to check it out
Sterling Sound engineers are so good 👌
honestly all of them are heavyweights especially for an independent running studio impressive...
Joe is one of the best mastering engineers working today. lucky to have had him on some songs!
This is one of the most impressive things I have seen in a while.
If you see a device with massive knobs you know it was build for mastering.
Yeah, they pay big bucks for gear that looks impressive
Or harvesting crops
@@djentlover
You're right, I never noticed that before lol!
Always thought of that, it impacts so hard psychologically when using knobs that big getting the feeling of: Hey, this might be a "SMALL" 0.5dB boost but a "MASSIVE" impact for the mix, take care.
i've seen almost all the episodes of mix with the masters and there is one tool used by all of them:
a Herman Miller Chair
Honestly my spine nearly died at the start of covid from sitting on an ikea chair. Bought an Aeron and it’s so worth it
@@allenwixted1992 Yeah, one of the best purchases I've ever made, honestly
Pico doido, lindo de ver - Brazil
A little volume automation and add some 50 in the Chorus.....nice gig!
xD Pretty much, easy job
I think it's harder to know what NOT to do
@@djentlover haha yeh totally, I was just being a smart ass...but a smoking mix can make for a much easier gig!
What a great mix
Such a power song and great mix! I do all my own mixing and am working on making it better!
Nice vid, and a real cool example of "creative restraint" in mastering!
my god that was beautiful work. Thank you MwtM!
Wow! So quick and precise. Thank you!
I like that dishwasher on the left
This song sounds amazing!
thanks joe for explaining it so well.
So good! Thank you Joe Laporta 🔥🔥
I´m gonna send my next release to him! Cool!
Why would you do that? A guy is going to boost your 50hz just for no reason! He thinks all kick drums need a thump there. He is a complete amateur if he does things as he explains them.
@@RP-vq4wd ya know this is for a video... his genuine master of this song wasn’t done in the 6 minutes of the video lol. He was giving a simple recreation around what he did.
Would love to know how he commit passes and combine them in final master.
Watch the full ep. then.
98% sure that this man owns a bidet
and trims everything down there at least twice a week
@@MrPartch Respectable
didn't know what a bidet was. now that i know. bet.
lmaooo
@@MrPartch bro I’m gassy from the lamb I ate
Nice work. I generally opt for using automation instead of doing multiple passes for certain sections, but its always interesting to see different mastering approaches.
Please explain "multiple passes"
Laporta brings Haaland to Barcelona please!!!
What does he mean by 2 Passes? Can someone please explain? Is it treating different regions of audio separately or something else?
Passes thru hardware, prints. Then for another section of the song he adjusts the gear and does another pass.
Poderiam ativar as legendas!
No matter how these mix engineers mix in the box, it still passes through analog equipment
4:41
Just an incredible informational video thank you
sign Haaland
By “edit together” do you mean composite the verse and chorus takes together? Do you use equal power or equal gain cross fades?
As a mastering engineer let me translate a couple of things "I liked where the mix was and didn't add much EQ" = The mix was smashed at source "I didn't add much limiter" =The mix was smashed at source
Yeah that makes sense. Sounded like the mix did all the heavy lifting and he was just adding just a tad bit of a finishing touch with EQ.
Why does the Chorus remind me of Kings Of Leon?
Shawn's album was heavily inspired by them
Very informative video 🔥🔥
This is a great look at an awesome perspective. Why is mastering so damn difficult?
its the least musical and most technical i think, and training your ear for it is the trickiest. youre still part of the artistic parts but it is more technical and precise than other parts.
@@Fyuesiy this. and mixing engineers say a lot it is not only how good/bad you are at mastering, but it is also the fact that are fully fresh unbiased ears focused on the most technical part, encode, objective loudness, etc.
@@Fyuesiy Least musical? Did you even watch the video?
@@obiwan5999 least musical is correct. Music and Audio are different there is no chords, notes, time signatures, Keys etc...
@@jamelehampton4255 Audio is music. If you've ever watched a mastering engineer at work, it's very musical and impacts what the listener feels because of how they make it feel. It's not sterile.
What a sound
Playing the song now 💯
Damn, that mix 👌
This is amazing!
Great video, excellent way of taking us along the journey and sharing ideas. Just an FYI, i hope you give your ears a break from listening at those levels. You may not think its loud, but even an hour a day at that level of the choruses will damage your hearing. That’s why such a high percentage of mixing/mastering engineers have tinnitus and other hearing problems by their 30’s. It leads to a lot of bad mixes and remorseful engineers.
3:53
i bet turning those knobs feels amazing
Yeah, just buy some big knobs and screw them on a board. That should do it for the beginning.
Someone's a bit too happy over analog equipment 😅
does anybody know what tools this guy is using? seems like everything is a secret when it comes to these things
Now I wanna hear in my blood!
Sure is helpful tips.
what sontec model is that?
Very informative!
Did he send you an already limited mix? I didn't know this was common.
Did the person who designed this studio also do the Noisia studios?!
yes
I thought this was a Noisia Studio so I guess that's a yes 🤣
hi how to contact your studio
Nice vid!
Is there a difference about the song when you mixing with diffrents music production software ?
Nope. It'll sound exactly how you want it no matter what you use
@@musicaARMA thank’s a lot ! Because a lot try to convince me to use logic while am using Fls .. so i was confused then i want a professionnel opinion
@@aghilesboucha4066 it’s all about workflow. If you are getting good results the tool doesn’t matter
@@Doty6String well that makes me more confident thank you
@@Doty6String @Dzi Fennex AFAIK for a long time the deal about this 2 daws was like one of these didn't have 32 bit fload mixing engine
This is f'ing awesome
Love it!!!
I'm not clear if he actually did something
Thanksss!!!!
When the mix is to perfect for master
Hey, i was wondering what the program was in there? it seemed to be pro tools, i'm not sure...
Hard to tell but it's not protools for sure. Possibly pyramix?
@@fromtheashbandofficial thank you for response! I have never seen that daw before! I noticed there were very presise automation curves in this software from other videos on youtube, it seemed compelling
Ooooof in a northward acoustics studio no less. MONEY
Nice sub!
Nice. Vintage digital: Z SYS EQ , L2
Pretty sure this is Noisia's studio right?
It looks the same yeah
@@LianFeldd must be renting it out to make a buck.
No. Same designers though. Northward Acoustics builds the best rooms in the industry [afaik]. They've done quite a few by now...
Maybe I'm missing something because I can't watch the "full video on mwtm.com", but this was an extremely lackluster video. He slapped some EQ on the chorus buildup and added compression? That's it? I'd expect there to be a lot more time put into mastering this track and an informative explanation for each method deployed. Maybe this is targeted toward a broad audience with little knowledge on mastering, but could we get some more detail going forward?
Haha boy maybe something simple makes some fire btw i love you!
When presented with a mix as pristine as this I think less is definitely more. And let's face it, if the mix is where it should be, mastering will merely involve very subtle moves, as demonstrated here.
@@MuscleEire totally agree! I just didn't think it was a well put together video for something like this. I would've liked more detail on what made the mix so great to begin with and why it didn't need to be changed.
@@wtfkyle It's merely a snippet from a full length session available at cost on the MWTM site.
I agree, not well edited.
can't help but notice mastering hardware has much better knobs than mixing hardware. mixing hardware is all midcentury stuff but the mastering gear is all sleek and shiny. mastering studios look like a god damn ikea catalog. also this dude looks like he hasnt slept in days
Arte those Superlux HD681B Headphones? If so, wow , they cost around 20 euros /bucks and see them here is not an usuall sight!
Maybe they sound super crappy, which is exactly the point: Make it sound good(acceptable) on crappy gear will highly likely sound great on good gear. That's why Yamaha NS-10's were, and still are popular: They don't sound great, but make it work on NS-10's, and it'll translate to other systems. And because they were in most studio's everybody knows how they sound. Most important thing is to KNOW your monitoring system: Headphones or speakers(What kind, or brand doesn't really matter)...There are a couple of mixing, and mastering engineers who work with headphones only. They know their headphones. Also, this way you are never bound to a room. Every (untreated)room makes speakers sounds different, even the same speakers due to room acoustics. So if you know your headphones, you can travel the world whilst still doing your job/hobby.
All superlux headphones are cheap copys of real big brand headphone, you know that right? Even the original AKG K240 MKII are cheap...
Nhìn cái đồ chơi của họ kìa. Đa số nước ngoài Mix Master chủ yếu là bằng phần cứng nhiều hơn là phần mềm trong
Needs more lava lamps and persian rugs
Oh my goodnesssssss
💯
🔥
Looks like the inside of a starship
awesome song! Joe made my track “AfriNola” sound great too! Not-so-shameless plug!
sndz grt
Covfefe
I love the “professionals” weighing in with their opinion here on TH-cam. Get out of your own bubbles.
Joe mastered our track Lonely Nights and we we’re absolutely blown away by his work. Definitely sending our next EP over - thanks Joe! Click here to listen open.spotify.com/track/72d0zUM7tsrjOF9N9LlQOz?si=_gqinG5yQ5WWRiMjZykJPA
how much did it cost
I have no idea what he's doing with those buttons in the middle
Pretty sure he’s just A/Bing what he’s doing vs the original mix and also checking his other pass.
I cant with that keyboard cable
I couldn't hear anything he did at all, but at least he was honest when he said it didn't really need anything and so didn't really do anything at all.....
Bruh, imagine thinking you can hear such mastering without professionell speakers
Great improvements! But it does seem like that this could have been done during the mix. The whole idea of a getting a mix the way the producer/engineer wants, then sending it out for someone else to change it, even in small ways, is a bit odd when you think about it. If Joe sent this out after his work on it....to someone else...they might hear something and change it yet again, it could go on forever. In the late Sixties while recording at Abbey Road we would go up to the cutting (vinyl) room and one day discovered they could add EQ to our songs, and started asking them "Hey could you make it brighter?" .....they finally said..."Boys, all of that should have been done before you brought the tape up here to us" ;)
Why diddn't he do it then? ;) Rhetorical question
@@caspermaster-com He did...that's what I mean. He got to sound the way he wanted. Now someone else is going to make it sound more like what he wants it to sound like...etc. Nothing wrong with using many different ears, but unless there is an obvious mistake in the mix, the changes could go on forever depending on who's listening, and it what room, on what monitors, etc.
@@TheAerovons Mastering and mixing are separate processes mentaly and practically, thats why usually its good to have a mastering engineer, focused on the craft and fresh perspective. Your points are valid, but you say you like the canges, yet the werent done by the mix engineer, so it usually gets bettyer with a good collab between mix and mastering engineer
I guess ( and I'm not an expert ) what's going on here is these engineers are adding their own 'artistic touch' to the product. They don't say that because that would come across as egocentric and at that stage it should be strictly a technical job. That is why other ears would hear something different and make different changes and so on. And that is why producers or whoever is in charge choose different Mastering engineers based on their style.
@@caspermaster-com Well they have certainly have become that today...I've been recording forever, in major studios, since a teenager (a LONG time ago). Never used to be like that. It's a definite improvement to have a mastering room and 2nd set of ears. But still, if the control room where it was recorded is excellent, and the engineer is excellent......it just becomes another take on the track. And again, it could then be sent to yet ANOTHER mastering engineer, who might have his own ideas. The possibilities are endless, as they say.
I'm really not a fan of generic moves by mastering engineers. Joe says: 'i'm gonna start with one of favourite moves, a 50Hz boost, just to get the thump of the kick out.' To me that is a very underwhelming approach. Frequencies should be dialled in, in my humble opinion, and I would love to hear Joe & other top-tier engineer's thoughts on this. I have zero doubt that the results would be better if frequencies were manually and carefully dialled in. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? I reckon a lot of these tracks have a flat shape overall due to bad approaches (rather than lack of talen on the engineer's part).
My opinion: that "move" would completely ruin my mix and low-end balance of my track. My kick is thumping enough, don't touch that main frequency or you will end up screwing everything. :)
Hahahahahaha
You gotta start somewhere. He’s just saying he generally starts boosting there if he feels the track needs it. He doesn’t just blindly apply the eq
@@riomade1163 We are just jealous of his studio. hehe
Shubh safetyoff mixer
Koeman out
i turned up the chorus and boosted 50 db. a thousand dollars, please
Fack ShYt Mendes but that mix was good tho 🤣
Another Toronto artist, watch out for me too.👍🏿
wwwwwwwooooooowwwwww
ma boi jus turned it up lol
joking for you sensitive ppl
Sorry, this sounds like blatantly overproduced contemporary Christian sap. Gross
Welcome to the music business.
What do you mean?
Why in hell do you have to use digital compression!!!! Loudness wars!!! Todays engineers don't know shit about mastering period. Get lessons from Kevin Gray dude.
Another practically useless video that purports to give away a teaspoon of the secret sauce but doesn't even manage to do that.
Awesome studio, outdated workflow
LOL
Just... shhhh.
Who here from ksi?
nice 1st april joke
Tf MWTM.
When will y'all bring CHRIS ATHENS, TED JENSEN AND CHRIS GEHRINGER?
Ffs. Smh.
+1 for Chris Athens. He mastered my last album and will master my next +++
Strange mixing desk...
I wonder if he just was trying to tell us that the song has already been such a crap that no mastering would ever help it being a better song?
Holy cow.. so basically this guy did nothing and got paid a lot of money for it? He kept saying, “I’m not gonna mess with it cause they did such a good job”.. sooooo you turned the chorus up to make it louder? Yeah no sht..
Vocals perfectly autotuned, the drums edited and quantized to the grid, all soul has been squeezed out, but hey it works perfectly as backround noise in a car radio...
I thought the vocals were really heartfelt
“Haha autotune bad look guys my opinion is so superior”
I highly doubt you listen for tempo variation or minor imperfections in vocals. You, like many other people who think this way, probably just think all pop is bad because “autotune bad!”
agreed it sounds thin, unoriginal and sounds mixed with a lot of plugins. Mastering guy is cool though.
So soul = being out of tune and out of time. Could you show us some of your work? :D
What do you mean?
Hi. 🙂
Thanks for putting this video together.
Please, let us pray together. Dear God who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever in Jesus Christ's name we pray amen.
1 Corinthians 16:14
Let all that you do be done in love.
Philippians 4:19
And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:2
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
May all suffering end as we give thanks this day. May God's face shine upon us forever on Earth as it is in Heaven in Jesus Christ's name we pray for His name and for His sake. Amen.