All he had to do was spot how sacrificing a queen and a bishop all the way to f7, would allow him to gobble up pretty much all pawns... and checkmate waay sooner.
@@PHeMoX What’s funny is that the very first image of the video is a move that leads to that; Queen takes e6, Pawn takes e6, Bishop takes e6, Pawn takes e6, Queen takes e6.
@@JJ_R Yeah I guess he checked afterwards what was the best move and reason for the high eval bar for white. He doesn't play with evaluation bar on of course. But I didn't even spot that necessarily. When looking for ways to punch through all the pawns, this was the only thing I find. And it makes sense the eval bar is so high, seeing how forcing it is.
Looking at the start my first thought was how quickly you could get a queen over to start putting him in check, but without the eval bar visible I doubt I would've been confident in it working. I probably wouldn't have gone for it in game.
If you attack on either e6 or f5, black will just eat the first queen sent, then ignore the bishop that can't check fast enough to prevent black from winning the game
If only you had spot the cool queen + bishop sacrifice to f7.... with a first check on e8 and many to follow. You'd have a win that's both forced and much quicker. The cool part is, you don't even have to defend against new queens. King behind b1 is pretty save for at least the moves you need to win.
i find it funny that i've watched dozens of chess simp videos at this point but i've still never seen the face of the guy in the outro video since it's always covered with the video thumbnail card
Hello, I'm Sylvanast (Sylvia now changed into Synus) in that video, It is a funny game through. But that f3 blunders really hit me hard 2:40. I hate that blunder so much. Because my previous move was good at all. And actually I can offer draw after you take that f3 (And your mission will be accomplished) but I just wanna try to win lol 😂. May we can collaborate again later soon! For 1:23, I think at that moment the f2 pawn still guard for a new queen so I just trade your queen with mine lol. But stockfish didn't consider it as blunder too
I ran this through stockfish for 42 minutes and it found a forced mate in 12 for white: Qcxa6 bxa6 Qdxa6 Kg7 Qxa7 g1=Q Qb8 Qe1 Qaa8 Qa5+ Qa2 Qxa8 Qaxa8 f1=Q+ Ka2 Qa6+ Qxa6 h1=Q Qac8 Qa1+ Bxa1 d5 Qg8# I didn't think anyone would give you a position with mate in 12
Mate in 11. Qcxe6 pxe6 bbxe6 pxe6 qaxe6 pf1=q qdb3 Pd5 Qa3 pc5 bb3 qc4 bxc4 pxc4 qa4 pb5 qa5 pb6 qxa6 pg1=q qc8# the first 3 moves I thought of immediately the next two took less than a minute, then the last bit was more complex with the added queen. Did I miss anything? Eta: I see it might be 13 if the pawns turned queen force a check and king move each time after bb3 :( (I wanted to be better than stockfish, or at least as good.) Edit 2: black stacking queens makes it more problematic.....but I'm pretty sure it's still a win for white
Making this before watching the video, going off of the opening position. It looks to me black needs at the minimum 3 promoted pawns to have a chance at checkmate, so white has three moves to enact an attack. I would start with the queen at c4 taking the pawn at a6. Blacks two options are either 1) capture the queen with the pawn on b7 (which keeps black at least 3 moves away from checkmate) or 2) promote one of the pawns on f-h2. If black does capture the queen, then white has the queen at d3 take the pawn at a6, black promotes first pawn, then the queen takes the pawn at a7, black promotes pawn #2, then white moves queen a7 to b8, check. Black then moves king to either g7 or h7, doesn't matter which one. Then white moves queen from a2 to a8, black promotes pawn #3, then white goes b8 to g8 check mate. If black doesn't capture the queen, then white goes queen a6 to a7 capture pawn, black promotes pawn #2, white goes a7 to b8 check, and the rest plays out the same as the other path.
Is best on turn one just sacking a queen for a6? Seems he's instantly losing whenever you you get two queens infiltrated and doesn't have enough tempi to mate you in time. would be more interesting if the king was slightly less safe for white
I'm so curious now, what was the best first move then? Because that queen move was also the only one I saw, since breaking through on the "queen-side" flank was too slow compared to the promotions for black.
I think the play might be to go for e6. I'm pretty sure white can break through there - the tricky part though that makes it hard for me to tell exactly how it plays out is what happens if black takes the first queen, but then ignores the bishop after it moves to e6. By the look of it stockfish can't tell if it's a forced checkmate or not either though otherwise the bar would be entirely white, so I guess if stockfish can't figure it out for sure then I'm not very likely to figure it out for sure either.
I feel like move is to move Queen to A6 and to ignore the Queen rush. You can get behind black King in 3 moves and threaten checkmate with the Queen on A2. The white King defense is strong enough to buy time until you can get a checkmate on the static and trapped Black King
Chess, but you can only checkmate when there is +1 of a piece on the board i.e. 3 queens, 5 rooks or etc., mission fails if the game ends any other way than checkmate.
Not sure, but Qxf5 looks pretty good. Sacrifice the queen and bishop to make an opening to the black king, and I don't think black has time to do anything about it.
The engine really struggles at low depth, but I think the only plan for white is sacrificing a couple of times along the a2-g8 diagonal to open a line of attack on the king. So Qxe6!!
@Y-nøt @Needleback Lessons @irjake Yeah, f5 and e6 do look juicy but I feel is a6 is weaker though. Once we could get two queens beyonds the pawn wall, the game should be a cake walk. That being said, it's still scary to leave the king there while all these black pawns are ready to Queen.
On the "I'm better than my Viewers videos, I always reserve my thumbs up for after the victory, of the videos I've seen, I haven't withheld it yet. Chess Simp is better than his viewers
You can move your piece only that much as they value like queen 9 then queen has 9 only moves - Play 300 or 400 rated player in blitz and checkmate him under 30 moves. Queen 9 moves Both rook 5 moves Bishops 3 moves Knight 3 moves Each pawn 1 move King 1 move They can capture pieces even they have done all their moves.
When he asked if we see a check mate in 5? I think he said, how was it not check mate in 3? Queen to c8, then in two moves get the bishop - h4 then f6 I should be considered by all accounts as the most inexperienced Chess player, next to someone who has never even heard of it. So yeah
Hello random stranger! Your moves will make the King unable to move, which is close to a checkmate, neat! But he will still move his pawns afterwards. For checkmate, you have to also check the king! Not only freeze him there. (In beginner matches this often results in an accidental draw, for example if black had no pawns left in this match and you lock him there, he'll have no possible moves and this will end in a draw! Never forget that your final move has to be a check too!)
This would be a neat checkmate, but your opponent can still move too! Pawn to g5 opens space for the king to escape. Pawn c7-c5 (pawn on row 7 can move 2 squares) will also get rid of your bishop next turn
White takes A6 with A2 queen. Black recaptures or promotes, doesn't matter. If recapture, white takes back on A6 with C4 queen. If promote, C2 bishop to D1 makes D1 defended by 4 pieces and impenetrable, while two white women can comfortably sneak amongst the black peasants to put the black king in an awkward position.
Looks like Stockfish was right, for once. After all, it said you had a big advantage at the beginning.
All he had to do was spot how sacrificing a queen and a bishop all the way to f7, would allow him to gobble up pretty much all pawns... and checkmate waay sooner.
@@PHeMoX What’s funny is that the very first image of the video is a move that leads to that;
Queen takes e6, Pawn takes e6, Bishop takes e6, Pawn takes e6, Queen takes e6.
@@JJ_R Yeah I guess he checked afterwards what was the best move and reason for the high eval bar for white. He doesn't play with evaluation bar on of course. But I didn't even spot that necessarily. When looking for ways to punch through all the pawns, this was the only thing I find. And it makes sense the eval bar is so high, seeing how forcing it is.
Looking at the start my first thought was how quickly you could get a queen over to start putting him in check, but without the eval bar visible I doubt I would've been confident in it working. I probably wouldn't have gone for it in game.
I would've used two queens to go towards a6 instead of e6
Surely the way to win was to mine directly to the king sacrificing a queen and bishop to go for a quick mate
Yeah I saw that too. I’m surprised he didn’t.
Me too, but i think he Just wanted to have a longer video
If you attack on either e6 or f5, black will just eat the first queen sent, then ignore the bishop that can't check fast enough to prevent black from winning the game
@@JetFiiire white is faster.
I think that’s why it said ‘draw’, cause it’s really easy to see Qf7+ Qf8+ repeating moves
Fun fact : He lost because the challenge was to draw the position
Mission succesfully failed
Fission Mailed
i believe you can't do that without getting put on a list
So basically, that one mouse slip changed the whole board around. RIP
I’m not sure it was a slip. It stopped white’s queen from taking a pawn on the back row and then sneaking behind all the pawns.
that mouse slip was actually to block Queen from entering inside
Here we can see that mouse slips can be very fatal
@@lunaticnomad0 yeah exactly. If i didnt have much time on the clock in that position i totally wouldve played e6
I love the the silence after "if he finds f3"
The
You mean “if he finds _h3”._
1:54
Mission failed, asked to draw, end up with checkmate.
Indeed! Mission failed, successfully.
If only you had spot the cool queen + bishop sacrifice to f7.... with a first check on e8 and many to follow. You'd have a win that's both forced and much quicker. The cool part is, you don't even have to defend against new queens. King behind b1 is pretty save for at least the moves you need to win.
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This is exactly what I was thinking. Ignore the pawns and attack full force behind enemy lines
I think it would be better to sacrifice one queen in order to sneak through A6.
i find it funny that i've watched dozens of chess simp videos at this point but i've still never seen the face of the guy in the outro video since it's always covered with the video thumbnail card
💀
anime is 'Engaged to the Unidentified' if you're curious
@@appleoxide4489 the person is truly unidentified by OP
The guy got mike wazowsky'd
Like Apple said, Engaged to the Unidentified. I'll add this detail though. Character is named Hakuya Mitsumine.
>draw from this position
>wins
I think that stockfish wanted u to attack rather than defend at the beggining by sacrificing
Hello, I'm Sylvanast (Sylvia now changed into Synus) in that video, It is a funny game through. But that f3 blunders really hit me hard 2:40. I hate that blunder so much. Because my previous move was good at all. And actually I can offer draw after you take that f3 (And your mission will be accomplished) but I just wanna try to win lol 😂. May we can collaborate again later soon!
For 1:23, I think at that moment the f2 pawn still guard for a new queen so I just trade your queen with mine lol. But stockfish didn't consider it as blunder too
Valiant fight
You did your best, and fought well! Gg!
You should change ur name to silvia🤤
@@CoraCreates Thank you very much!
So Sylvanast is a man.
but you had to make a draw
I think they meant “Draw” as in “draw your weapon”.
Could have been a double meaning or pun
no he had to draw its at the start of the video
No, not a double meaning, the goal was to draw.
All me how i know
@@Robeebert draw
I ran this through stockfish for 42 minutes and it found a forced mate in 12 for white: Qcxa6 bxa6 Qdxa6 Kg7 Qxa7 g1=Q Qb8 Qe1 Qaa8 Qa5+ Qa2 Qxa8 Qaxa8 f1=Q+ Ka2 Qa6+ Qxa6 h1=Q Qac8 Qa1+ Bxa1 d5 Qg8#
I didn't think anyone would give you a position with mate in 12
Mate in 11. Qcxe6 pxe6 bbxe6 pxe6 qaxe6 pf1=q qdb3 Pd5 Qa3 pc5 bb3 qc4 bxc4 pxc4 qa4 pb5 qa5 pb6 qxa6 pg1=q qc8# the first 3 moves I thought of immediately the next two took less than a minute, then the last bit was more complex with the added queen. Did I miss anything?
Eta: I see it might be 13 if the pawns turned queen force a check and king move each time after bb3 :( (I wanted to be better than stockfish, or at least as good.)
Edit 2: black stacking queens makes it more problematic.....but I'm pretty sure it's still a win for white
You dont need stockfish. It's pretty obvious that Qxa6 will lead to mate.
3:19 makes a really sick beat lol
Queen takes queen takes queen takes e5 bishop g3 c5 bishop f2 e4 queen h3 c4
...I just realized there was subtitles
You can mate in 3 from that position by going queen to c8 then bishop to d4 then queen to top right corner as well
The challenge was to draw. So technically, challenge failed.
2:38 i don't think that was a mouseslip. It was to interpose Qxd7.
And he forgot about the bishop and his hanging pawn.
Source: my own thoughts
Same
The player spoke up and it was a mouse slip
3:18 right on the beat
mad skills brother
Chess, but it’s Keplerian: before you can win, your Queen has to do a full round trip around your opponent’s Queen.
3:35 - (btw paused) Qd7, Kg7, Bd4, Kg8 or Kf8, Qd8 or Qe8
Nvm guess im wrong
"[...] and I wont give you any seconds to do so bla, balablablabla,bla, bla sabbel..." hehehe, nice
Chess, but pieces can't take pawns and pawns can't take pieces
Chess, but you have to change the gender of a pawn into a horsie and you have to checkmate with him
It's not Stockfish's fault; it learned how to rate normal chess games, not weird challenges like this.
How didn’t he find queen takes a6 pawn takes queen takes the take the a7 pawn then some checkmate pattern
Because, as the name of this series clearly says, Simp is better than his viewers.
bad content?
Maybe it won't be fast enough to get the checkmate before the right column turn to queens and checkmate him? Idk, i haven't checked
It takes three turns for him to get checkmated by two queens
Making this before watching the video, going off of the opening position. It looks to me black needs at the minimum 3 promoted pawns to have a chance at checkmate, so white has three moves to enact an attack. I would start with the queen at c4 taking the pawn at a6. Blacks two options are either 1) capture the queen with the pawn on b7 (which keeps black at least 3 moves away from checkmate) or 2) promote one of the pawns on f-h2. If black does capture the queen, then white has the queen at d3 take the pawn at a6, black promotes first pawn, then the queen takes the pawn at a7, black promotes pawn #2, then white moves queen a7 to b8, check. Black then moves king to either g7 or h7, doesn't matter which one. Then white moves queen from a2 to a8, black promotes pawn #3, then white goes b8 to g8 check mate. If black doesn't capture the queen, then white goes queen a6 to a7 capture pawn, black promotes pawn #2, white goes a7 to b8 check, and the rest plays out the same as the other path.
3:19 is the best rap I've ever heard ngl
Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels 😂
bro this is better than most fps games
Is best on turn one just sacking a queen for a6? Seems he's instantly losing whenever you you get two queens infiltrated and doesn't have enough tempi to mate you in time. would be more interesting if the king was slightly less safe for white
That's what I was thinking, since in the starting position you get two queens on the same diagonal
Chess, but none of your pieces (not pawns) can touch any other non-pawn pieces after developing or look at them
"A guy called Sylvia" cracked me up
I really want to see how stock fish would have done this seems apparently the first move was a blunder. New series? (I'm better then stockfish)
Take on a6. His opponent needs 3 queens to checkmate and he doesn't have enough time to do that if simp immediately attacks.
Whites: C4-A6, D3-A6 A6-C8 (check) A2-A7, A7-A8, C8-G8 (check-mate). Blacks: B7-A6, F2-F1(queen), H8-H7, G2-G1(queen), H2-H1(queen). Blacks needs 3 queens to check mate the king
I'm so curious now, what was the best first move then? Because that queen move was also the only one I saw, since breaking through on the "queen-side" flank was too slow compared to the promotions for black.
1qxe6, dxe6,
2bxe6, fxe6,
3qxe6 g8=Q,
4qxe7, qxb1+,
5bxb1, h8=Q
6-8 queen repetition draw, win challenge.
other, stockfish line
1Qxe6, fxe6
2 Bxe6, f1=Q
3 Bxd7, Qxd3
4 Qf7, Qc4
5 Be6, Qxe6
6Qxe6, g1=Q
7Qxe7, Qxb1+
8 Bxb1, h1=Q
9 Qf8+, Kh7
10 Qf7+... repeat.
I think the play might be to go for e6. I'm pretty sure white can break through there - the tricky part though that makes it hard for me to tell exactly how it plays out is what happens if black takes the first queen, but then ignores the bishop after it moves to e6.
By the look of it stockfish can't tell if it's a forced checkmate or not either though otherwise the bar would be entirely white, so I guess if stockfish can't figure it out for sure then I'm not very likely to figure it out for sure either.
It’s Mate in 12 Qcxa6 is the first move
I feel like move is to move Queen to A6 and to ignore the Queen rush. You can get behind black King in 3 moves and threaten checkmate with the Queen on A2. The white King defense is strong enough to buy time until you can get a checkmate on the static and trapped Black King
"a guy called sylvia"
i see.
queen takes queen takes queen is an interesting sentence
I really thought for a second you would lose, but I was damn wrong
Technically, you had to draw, so you're NOT better than your viewers
I think the first move should have been queen takes a6 to break into the eighth rank and go after the king
I don't understand the outro to these videos.
Chess, but you have to accidentally end your own video.
Chess, but you can only checkmate when there is +1 of a piece on the board i.e. 3 queens, 5 rooks or etc., mission fails if the game ends any other way than checkmate.
You failed, the Challenger said to draw.
Just out of curiosity, what is the best move to keep advantage in the beginning?
Attacking the king diretly, sacriffing the queen and bishop (sorry bad english)
Not sure, but Qxf5 looks pretty good. Sacrifice the queen and bishop to make an opening to the black king, and I don't think black has time to do anything about it.
The engine really struggles at low depth, but I think the only plan for white is sacrificing a couple of times along the a2-g8 diagonal to open a line of attack on the king. So Qxe6!!
@Y-nøt @Needleback Lessons @irjake Yeah, f5 and e6 do look juicy but I feel is a6 is weaker though. Once we could get two queens beyonds the pawn wall, the game should be a cake walk. That being said, it's still scary to leave the king there while all these black pawns are ready to Queen.
I love how some people answer this by pretending they havent seen it on a chess engine/seen other people's chess engine fuelled suggestions
Even I knew what he/she/they did wrong...
You gotta go all in and attack the king move one.
at the start you should've gone for an attack ngl
On the "I'm better than my Viewers videos, I always reserve my thumbs up for after the victory, of the videos I've seen, I haven't withheld it yet. Chess Simp is better than his viewers
Wonder how it would have worked if you took on a6 to start.
That's a hell of a move
The only way to win against this guy is to have it a normal match playing as black, but his f and g pawns are gone and white’s e pawn is gone
Chess, but you have to destroy all pieces (or pawns) before you checkmate.
that's way too easy against the 100 rated, except that it's impossible because they'll resign before then
White could've have taken the pawn on a6, then black takes queen a6, White takes pawn in a6, black changes gender, white moves at c8 check.
Wow, you really are better than your viewers
Kinda not shocked. All those pawns and non of them could really change with out dying readily.
You can move your piece only that much as they value like queen 9 then queen has 9 only moves
- Play 300 or 400 rated player in blitz and checkmate him under 30 moves.
Queen 9 moves
Both rook 5 moves
Bishops 3 moves
Knight 3 moves
Each pawn 1 move
King 1 move
They can capture pieces even they have done all their moves.
the level in this game was horrendous
From the thumbnail, put the C2 Bishop diagonally right to D1.
Yoo if u really better then what do I think about a normal chess game u n m will fight r u in ??
I think you had advantage at start because of A6 Sacrifice.
If u get checkmate the video ends
what's the music in the outro?
Why not sacrifice one queen to take a6, then it's free way for the other three up along the a file and mate the king?
i want you to just checkmate your king only using a queen
deliver a checkmate without capturing any pieces, or pawns first
Tell me what is the music pls
That was amazing!
“after another pawn CHANGES GENDER”
you’re telling me that if they turn into females they become the most powerful piece on the board????!!
"Draw"
chess, but if you can do the french move, you have to
that's not mate in five , it's in three
the anime at the end whats the title?
Big brain
Move
Take a shot for every time he says _changes gender._
It must be oay actors i cant believe that they are not
Keep it up!
Four Magicgirl and allies vs Zombie horde
He missed the Qxa6 on move 1... so sad
Wait wasn't the objective to DRAW?
how many times g2 was missed?
Nice series. How did you get this analysed? When I put this starting position into lichess it always crashes when i want to play or analyse it.
Oh my god it’s a pickaxe
When he asked if we see a check mate in 5? I think he said, how was it not check mate in 3? Queen to c8, then in two moves get the bishop - h4 then f6
I should be considered by all accounts as the most inexperienced Chess player, next to someone who has never even heard of it. So yeah
Hello random stranger! Your moves will make the King unable to move, which is close to a checkmate, neat!
But he will still move his pawns afterwards. For checkmate, you have to also check the king! Not only freeze him there.
(In beginner matches this often results in an accidental draw, for example if black had no pawns left in this match and you lock him there, he'll have no possible moves and this will end in a draw! Never forget that your final move has to be a check too!)
At the ending when you gave us time to see how to checkmate would this work?
Bishop to d4
Queen to c8
Queen to h8
This would be a neat checkmate, but your opponent can still move too! Pawn to g5 opens space for the king to escape. Pawn c7-c5 (pawn on row 7 can move 2 squares) will also get rid of your bishop next turn
1. Qxa6 looks very very very strong
Hmm someone that has practiced a position that they have set up versus someone under 1500 wonder who has advantage
Whats the name of the song
Queen A6 and going for checks win this i think
Bruh u were supposed to take on a6
The goal was a draw. You failed.
Pawn-ography is bad for you.
It must be a draw. U didnt complete challange
Bishop D4, Queen C8, Queen H8
They were definitely using computer lol
Mouseslips are most common in very fast formats, or when the user is cheating
1. C queen takes a6 for the win
Huh. I saw the best moves for both sides all game... Except the beginning. No idea what route shouldve been taken there.
Many blunder white
GG
White takes A6 with A2 queen. Black recaptures or promotes, doesn't matter. If recapture, white takes back on A6 with C4 queen. If promote, C2 bishop to D1 makes D1 defended by 4 pieces and impenetrable, while two white women can comfortably sneak amongst the black peasants to put the black king in an awkward position.
Anime name?