C#. Absolutely perfectly tuning for me. Sometimes i play B standard. On 7 strings i play D1-D6 and 7 string in A. Standard E and DADGAD when i wanna play any stoner 😉
D standard. The perfect middle ground. Still possesses the clarity of E/Eb standard and also has the heaviness of a "lower" tuning without sounding mushy.
I’ve started my own black metal project and I’ve been taking tips from your videos, you are the only one who actually actively seriously focuses on teaching black metal, and boy am I thankful, thank you for being here!! I’ve started off playing riffs like kreator and devourment which are fun but really just that, fun in the moment, it gets boring real quick I feel like with black metal if someone knows how to play right and learns it’s way more diverse in it’s prevalent sound
I tune up to F standard. It sounds clear and all the notes are easy to distinguish. When combined with high distortion and treble, it has a gnarly, vicious sounding buzzsaw sound.
Awesome. Me also on the 7. On the 8 i am go to A#4 on the high string it uses a .0062", .007" feels a little too tight on a tremelo its like 21+ lbs of tension on a 27" scale all the other strings have less tension. The difference between a .007" and .0062" or .0059" is 18 dollars
"There isn't a right or wrong tuning." - Transcendental Wisdom I have my style and biases here, as such, I'm wholly committed to lower tunings. By and large seven string combinations that are at least standard A if not lower. I think the highest I'd be willing to go on compromise would be around C or C#/Db.
I personally have written over a dozen if not more lyrics, all inspired by mayhem, dark funeral, forgotten tomb and my personal life. Instrumental I play bass some what guitar, drums and do vocals. It's hard to find people that share this type of music and not freak out about the lyrics. Some are deep thought and some are blood brutal. Thanks for the videos. I learned a few if not a whole new set of chords and styles.
After this video I am changing my strings and re tuning to C# , although I have been doing just fine with standard E , What You Presented is just Absolutely Amazing , Great Video , just Awesome.
I think E , Eb and D standard tonality are all good for black metal but C# is my favorite cuz its the sweet spot for black and a lil bit of death metal punchy sound, but going any lower than that is gonna sound more like death metal even if your execution is otherwise
Loving the sound of C Standard. It has the icy ness that is required in black metal, but is also Downtuned and brutal. I honestly wanna hear, like, more traditional 2nd wave black metal in C Standard.
I like E, Eb and i recently got into C# with 10's strings!! The chords ring out with a menacing sound!! I like your 6 string deans!! I have seen to shape before but you make them look cool!!
Honestly I have a hard time going back to 6 after getting into 8 string. The range you have access to just inspires so much for me. One you get your amp eq’d to handle that low F#, you can get some brutal sounds while getting that icy clarity on the higher strings. But for 6 string C# standard for everything.
yeah B Standard is a tricky tuning. my fast grind power chord slides just sound like a wall of noise in B, but in C Standard they are more clear and audible.
I myself really enjoy playing in Bb on a 7 string. As opposed to how people commonly tune their 7's though, i tune the G string on mine a half step down (in my case, down to F) which allows me to play my 7 string like i would a 6 string guitar with an extra high string. I've found that this allows me to play entire chords with all 7 strings ringing out simultaneously. I'm still trying to find my way around learning more chords with this tuning, but it feels so much more natural than if you just had your guitar tuned like a regular 6 string guitar with a low B string.
right now I play in Drop C I also suck either way...so it doesn't really matter if I suck in Drop C or E standard :D I'm just a sucker for heavy groovy sections in black metal songs so...there is that.
I'm thinking about writing some death metal material in the near future and can't decide between C or B tuning. I've been listening to music in those tunings to try and decide but after watching this demo I guess I'm just gonna have 2 different guitars set up for both
Hi Man, thanks for another great video, very enlightening. One suggestion: it would be nicer that you always have a drum pattern when you play. Obviously you improvise and that would tie you to a tempo, but the effect of the music you transmit would be greater. Cheers !
My favourite is one of my 7 string guitars which are always tuned to drop A. But then I tend to gravitate towards just playing the top 6 strings which are in standard because the low A string don't stay in tune for very long unless I have relatively new strings. The drop tune aspect of it It's still nice for big bar chords or the add9 crap that sounds straight out of anime land.
What’s nice about the B standard tuning… Is that from the E string over is standard tuning. So if you’d like, leave the B string alone and you can play with the E standard strings some of them anyway lol
For 6 string E standard is my favorite. My second favorite is drop D. For my 7 string B flat standard. When I use my drop pedal on my 6 string I like going down to D standard
I usually go for E Standard, but E Flat sounds pretty evil! I wasn’t aware that the half step could make such a difference as i always dropped it to D Standard if i went lower. Definitely need to try E flat 🔥
On my 7 i go to a# and it gives me Eb for blackend riffs with the low end to really get low and dirty. But ive always been fond of both death metal and black metal played evenly together
@@DevGohil BTW could you do lesson for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (song) ? I'm not sure how to play the intro riff, because lots of tabs are different and from live videos it seems like that both guitarists are playing something different. Not experienced enough to learn by ear yet sadly.
E flat is my favorite. For pretty much everything. C sharp (the sabbath tuning) is second for my personal taste. On a different note the guitar you used for d standard sounds incredible to my ears. Great definition and just all around tone. Definitely keep that guitar, especially if it plays as nice as It sounds.
I've been more inspired by Eb tuning and also listening to lots of Artificial Brain, Charnel Grounds, Emperor, ihsahn, Ibaraki and revocation make me like blacked death metal style stuff😂
Question: Do you do a set up every time you change to a heavier string guage with a new guitar. I want to put my Dimebag Dean in C# using a 7 string set but Guitar Center in the states is backed up due to Holidays.
I find myself using e flat standard(which I view kinda cold for me) a lot. Love using standard e and c# standard too(c sharp feels cold too but gives off like an autumn/fall kind of vibe for some songs)Drop d feels war metal enough for me
C# mostly and sometime C . I feel away from B standard. And all that drop A and lower… just sounds like mud to me no matter who’s playing it. This is a great video and I am no longer undecided with the tuning I’ve been using is just fine which is C-sharp and sometimes from lazy. I pick up my sharp guitar and it’s a little flat now it’s in C. I’ll keep it. I’ll roll with it C and C sharp in my opinion of the best tuning you have to have one guitar and E flat in order to play all of the old slayer and iron maidenstuff
I prefer B standard for the added low end ideally on a 7 string, but if on a 6 string you can still play like 95% of all metal songs written in E standard with no problem.
Personally I feel the least inspired when coming up with something if Im in E standard none of my axes are in that tuning currently. It just bores me to death and feels like beating a dead horse when playing. I cant deal with lighter gauge strings anymore either which are used for that tuning. Sure I listen to lots of bands that play in that tuning most second wave is standard tuned. I just prefer E flat, C#, D standard for my own black metal playing. B standard is a favourite of mine for death metal writing tho. Sounds so cavernous and open chords hit hard.
The dude I was trying to form a band with and jammed with until we had a falling out for other reasons would not tune out of E standard if his life depended on it. It was just so uninspiring and close minded to me. I feel like finding the right eq settings on your amp/pedals is key also for the tuning you're in black, death and thrash can be and has been played in all featured tunings. Thats why investing in a high gain amp you like first and pedals if you feel the need is so important.
It can be discouraging finding someone with the right level of dedication and commitment to the music especially in the southern United States where Im at. Hard enough to find others who listen to metal here. I just need a drummer at this point Im a clueless idiot with making good drum patterns and techniques and have been displeased with programming, midi packs, or vsts I've tried.
Hi Dev. What tunings would you recommend for atmospheric black metal? Also I'm looking to switch my pickups and was looking into buying SD Black Winters. Would you recommend this or is there something that's better? Thanks.
I’ve not used a set of black winters myself, from what I’ve tried, fishmans are the nicest active pickups I’ve used. Passive, not too sure, but, all Seymour Duncan pickups I’ve used are good Atmospheric black metal - I’d chose D standard personally, experiment for yourself though
For whatever reason a long time ago I decided I liked c standard since it still gave me standard intervals between the strings and two whole steps down was more than down tuned enough. I noticed you skipped it here any particular reason?
You my friend are a dam good guitar player...it's funny thinking how bad some Big band guitar players actually are...{Kurt from Metallica} especially when comparing to a very talented shredding machine like yourself..this is what practice does for your playing!
What tunings do you use? Which one is your favourite?
C#. Absolutely perfectly tuning for me. Sometimes i play B standard. On 7 strings i play D1-D6 and 7 string in A. Standard E and DADGAD when i wanna play any stoner 😉
D standard. The perfect middle ground. Still possesses the clarity of E/Eb standard and also has the heaviness of a "lower" tuning without sounding mushy.
B standard
D Standard because Abbath :D
anything except standard is sacrilegious
00:00 INTRODUCTION
00:08 E STANDARD
01:57 E b FLAT STANDARD
04:00 D STANDARD
06:35 C # SHARP STANDARD
09:05 C STANDARD
11:46 B STANDARD
14:01 DISCUSSION
So much clarity and definition, you've clearly put in the work on your technique and it shows!
thanks man! still working on it
The d standard riffs give immortal vibes
I’ve started my own black metal project and I’ve been taking tips from your videos, you are the only one who actually actively seriously focuses on teaching black metal, and boy am I thankful, thank you for being here!! I’ve started off playing riffs like kreator and devourment which are fun but really just that, fun in the moment, it gets boring real quick I feel like with black metal if someone knows how to play right and learns it’s way more diverse in it’s prevalent sound
I tune up to F standard. It sounds clear and all the notes are easy to distinguish. When combined with high distortion and treble, it has a gnarly, vicious sounding buzzsaw sound.
Vektor🤘
Awesome. Me also on the 7. On the 8 i am go to A#4 on the high string it uses a .0062", .007" feels a little too tight on a tremelo its like 21+ lbs of tension on a 27" scale all the other strings have less tension. The difference between a .007" and .0062" or .0059" is 18 dollars
These are my favorite kinds of videos where you are just riffing it out, good stuff man keep it up! 🤘🏻
haha. sweet, cheers man
"There isn't a right or wrong tuning." - Transcendental Wisdom
I have my style and biases here, as such, I'm wholly committed to lower tunings. By and large seven string combinations that are at least standard A if not lower. I think the highest I'd be willing to go on compromise would be around C or C#/Db.
I personally have written over a dozen if not more lyrics, all inspired by mayhem, dark funeral, forgotten tomb and my personal life. Instrumental I play bass some what guitar, drums and do vocals. It's hard to find people that share this type of music and not freak out about the lyrics. Some are deep thought and some are blood brutal. Thanks for the videos. I learned a few if not a whole new set of chords and styles.
After this video I am changing my strings and re tuning to C# , although I have been doing just fine with standard E , What You Presented is just Absolutely Amazing , Great Video , just Awesome.
I think E , Eb and D standard tonality are all good for black metal but C# is my favorite cuz its the sweet spot for black and a lil bit of death metal punchy sound, but going any lower than that is gonna sound more like death metal even if your execution is otherwise
Your trem picking is sick
Loving the sound of C Standard. It has the icy ness that is required in black metal, but is also Downtuned and brutal. I honestly wanna hear, like, more traditional 2nd wave black metal in C Standard.
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@@DevGohil Thanks.
I love D Standard for all kinds of Metal
Best video you've done in a while
I can never fully decide what is my favorite tuning! Ha
Cheers from Ireland
I love the riff at 6:53
I like E, Eb and i recently got into C# with 10's strings!! The chords ring out with a menacing sound!! I like your 6 string deans!! I have seen to shape before but you make them look cool!!
Honestly I have a hard time going back to 6 after getting into 8 string. The range you have access to just inspires so much for me. One you get your amp eq’d to handle that low F#, you can get some brutal sounds while getting that icy clarity on the higher strings. But for 6 string C# standard for everything.
8 strings are played out. Bands are going back to 6 strings and tuning up again.
@@Phicxtion oh ok, I’ll just sell my 8 string and buy a 6 string because it’s the trend now I guess
1:29 onward that is one dark and haunting riff. Can you please do a lesson on it in the near future?
ah, it's the dyad/sargiest/behexen thing. I did a lesson on sargeist-y riffs, i think its EP 12 of this series
@@DevGohil Cool. Will practice it today
C# standard on the 6 string and A# standard on the 7
I think you kicked major ass on that. Well played sir. Keep up the great work.
yeah B Standard is a tricky tuning. my fast grind power chord slides just sound like a wall of noise in B, but in C Standard they are more clear and audible.
C SHARP sounds the best
D sounds so good! D is also great for Death and even Punk.
I myself really enjoy playing in Bb on a 7 string. As opposed to how people commonly tune their 7's though, i tune the G string on mine a half step down (in my case, down to F) which allows me to play my 7 string like i would a 6 string guitar with an extra high string. I've found that this allows me to play entire chords with all 7 strings ringing out simultaneously. I'm still trying to find my way around learning more chords with this tuning, but it feels so much more natural than if you just had your guitar tuned like a regular 6 string guitar with a low B string.
got an ibanez 8 string tuned to G2, C2, F2, A#2, D#3, G#3, C4, F4.
I use D standard if its a six string because I listen to a ton of shining. For my own material I use A standard on a 7 string.
Excellent demonstration!
Do you have 'certain guitar' selection for tunings? How do you favor certain electronics to produce sound?
Love your work!
not so much, im mostly fussy over guitar hardware and build specs as opposed to electronics these days
right now I play in Drop C
I also suck either way...so it doesn't really matter if I suck in Drop C or E standard :D
I'm just a sucker for heavy groovy sections in black metal songs so...there is that.
I'm thinking about writing some death metal material in the near future and can't decide between C or B tuning. I've been listening to music in those tunings to try and decide but after watching this demo I guess I'm just gonna have 2 different guitars set up for both
Hi Man, thanks for another great video, very enlightening. One suggestion: it would be nicer that you always have a drum pattern when you play. Obviously you improvise and that would tie you to a tempo, but the effect of the music you transmit would be greater. Cheers !
yeah, can do that in future
Best Channel on TH-cam amazing work as always
1:17 relaxing. Deftones style riff.
Didn't know deftones have those kind of sounds, I picked up those chords from Emperor!
@@DevGohil Song Mein. They use those kinda riffs.
My favourite is one of my 7 string guitars which are always tuned to drop A. But then I tend to gravitate towards just playing the top 6 strings which are in standard because the low A string don't stay in tune for very long unless I have relatively new strings. The drop tune aspect of it It's still nice for big bar chords or the add9 crap that sounds straight out of anime land.
What’s nice about the B standard tuning… Is that from the E string over is standard tuning. So if you’d like, leave the B string alone and you can play with the E standard strings some of them anyway lol
For 6 string E standard is my favorite. My second favorite is drop D. For my 7 string B flat standard.
When I use my drop pedal on my 6 string I like going down to D standard
I usually go for E Standard, but E Flat sounds pretty evil! I wasn’t aware that the half step could make such a difference as i always dropped it to D Standard if i went lower. Definitely need to try E flat 🔥
Bathory used E flat a lot on their early albums so it definitely works
On my 7 i go to a# and it gives me Eb for blackend riffs with the low end to really get low and dirty. But ive always been fond of both death metal and black metal played evenly together
Inspiring and awesome as usual.
You should do one but with drop tunings (Drop D, Drop C, etc)
DADFAE
Brutality, complexity, clarity.
I use E Standard. Somehow just think it fits best for black metal, at least for me.
Yeah, majority of the songs I've written use E standard
@@DevGohil BTW could you do lesson for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (song) ? I'm not sure how to play the intro riff, because lots of tabs are different and from live videos it seems like that both guitarists are playing something different. Not experienced enough to learn by ear yet sadly.
@@raven4404 Yeah I can do that in future
This. As much as I mess around with tuning and the end of the day, all roads lead to E standard for finished songs.
My Favourite tuning for Black Metal is A Standard (that where I’m most comfortable), bear in mind that I’m a bassist and use a 5 string fretless on BM
i find open B minor fares better then b standard....
B
F#
B
F#
B
D
you get some mayhem sounding chords on the F# B D in particular
Will have to try someday
E flat is my favorite. For pretty much everything. C sharp (the sabbath tuning) is second for my personal taste. On a different note the guitar you used for d standard sounds incredible to my ears. Great definition and just all around tone. Definitely keep that guitar, especially if it plays as nice as It sounds.
Sweet man, that's my first Dean. Never gonna get rid of it
I've been more inspired by Eb tuning and also listening to lots of Artificial Brain, Charnel Grounds, Emperor, ihsahn, Ibaraki and revocation make me like blacked death metal style stuff😂
C sharp standard forsure
idk why but b standard was just so good
I have a schecter 7 string with lundgren black heavens in B standard, and every note sings with clarity. The EMG's always felt muddy to me.
I agree, EMGs get muddy in B, Fishmans are amazing for low tunings too
@@DevGohil what about Seymour Duncan pickups, are they good for low tunings?
@@joshxhow2738 usually good been a while since I’ve used a set for lower tunings, fishman are great for low tunings
That's exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks! And I hope one day you may cover Psalm 7:77 by 1349!
Excellent suggestion
E flat can sound cold and wormy.
Awesome!
E,Eb & D standard🤘🏼🔥
He aprendido mucho con tus videos,gracias,eres un gran guitarrista.Podrias tocar algo del último álbum de Seth,ese álbum está brutal!
Gracias Gracias
@@DevGohil Saludos soy de Puerto Rico
@@DevGohil Aquí en Puerto Rico hay una comunidad grande de bandas Metal
@@DevGohil te recomiendo ver el documental :the distorted island heavy metal and community in Puerto Rico
@@jorgerodz0000 thanks for the suggestion! and thanks for the support
Question: Do you do a set up every time you change to a heavier string guage with a new guitar. I want to put my Dimebag Dean in C# using a 7 string set but Guitar Center in the states is backed up due to Holidays.
Yeah I do, then I just stick to that one gauge for the guitar
I find myself using e flat standard(which I view kinda cold for me) a lot. Love using standard e and c# standard too(c sharp feels cold too but gives off like an autumn/fall kind of vibe for some songs)Drop d feels war metal enough for me
More BASS VIDEOS PLEASE
C# mostly and sometime C . I feel away from B standard. And all that drop A and lower… just sounds like mud to me no matter who’s playing it. This is a great video and I am no longer undecided with the tuning I’ve been using is just fine which is C-sharp and sometimes from lazy. I pick up my sharp guitar and it’s a little flat now it’s in C. I’ll keep it. I’ll roll with it C and C sharp in my opinion of the best tuning you have to have one guitar and E flat in order to play all of the old slayer and iron maidenstuff
Abruptum played in B standard which disproves anyone that says that low tuning no longer makes it Black Metal.
I've noticed that both death and black metal don't use drop tunings, is there a clear reason?
Player preference
My favourite are: E standard, D standard, Drop D
Great video 😁 what string gauges are you using? Do you use different ones for different tunings?
Cheers man,
All d’addario
52-10 for E and Eb
56-11 for D/C#andC
59-10 for B (7 string)
@@DevGohil thanks bud, I'll have to give them a try 😁👍🏻
@@DevGohil Are all of your guitars 25.5" scale or do you use those gauges indistinctively of the scale lenght?
@@TheSubstrance it's a mix of 24 inch and 25.5. It depends on the guitar on the strings i use
Great lesson! As usual!
someone likes Dean guitars :D rly awesome!
best guitars
Excellent!!! What strings gauge do you prefer for those low tunings? Thanks and regards from Mexico?
Hey man
E Standard I normally use 52-10 on a 24.75 inch scale guitar
Eb 52-10
D, C# and C I used 52-11
7 string uses 59-10
All d'addario
Awesome playing dude. Your collection of Dean Vs is drool-worthy haha
i think there's been, two more deans since this vid was made loool
I prefer B standard for the added low end ideally on a 7 string, but if on a 6 string you can still play like 95% of all metal songs written in E standard with no problem.
Muito bom esses estilos y formas de palbetadas...👏👏👏👏
Obs: Que banda é essa na sua camisa???
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🤘😈🤘For B metal, I think I like E the most, maybe E flat. It sounds like Immortal; by far my favorite B metal band I know of.
would you do a video on drop tunings, or even open tunings in black metal? because Cminoradd9 tuning in black metal sounds sick
Probably not, few bands in black metal play In drop tunings, and I don’t personally play in them either
Killing as usual Dev!
Thanks man
@@DevGohil Also, you look exactly like one of my best friends. He is the one who got me into black metal around 96-97. Cheers!
@@daysthrumycam haha! amazing man
what about open tunings? any particular dyads or triads that pop out easier?
Never played with open tunings
@@DevGohil perhaps a new video idea
No need for multiple guitars, just get a Digitech Drop pedal, you can instantly lower the tuning, even by 7 half steps.
i have that pedal and tbh it gets really muddy after going below d standard, useful tool for playing live tho
@@BLADEOUTDATOMB It is perfect for someone just wanting to play along songs in different tunings at home, like me 🙂
i think dstandard is best for bm
Personally I feel the least inspired when coming up with something if Im in E standard none of my axes are in that tuning currently. It just bores me to death and feels like beating a dead horse when playing. I cant deal with lighter gauge strings anymore either which are used for that tuning. Sure I listen to lots of bands that play in that tuning most second wave is standard tuned. I just prefer E flat, C#, D standard for my own black metal playing. B standard is a favourite of mine for death metal writing tho. Sounds so cavernous and open chords hit hard.
i get you, sometimes a lower tuning just vibes better
The dude I was trying to form a band with and jammed with until we had a falling out for other reasons would not tune out of E standard if his life depended on it. It was just so uninspiring and close minded to me. I feel like finding the right eq settings on your amp/pedals is key also for the tuning you're in black, death and thrash can be and has been played in all featured tunings. Thats why investing in a high gain amp you like first and pedals if you feel the need is so important.
Keep the content coming too man love your content and have learned so much from you!
@@dustindean527 cheers man, good gear helps
And it helps working with people who are like minded
It can be discouraging finding someone with the right level of dedication and commitment to the music especially in the southern United States where Im at. Hard enough to find others who listen to metal here. I just need a drummer at this point Im a clueless idiot with making good drum patterns and techniques and have been displeased with programming, midi packs, or vsts I've tried.
D and C sounds very evil for black metal
Hi Dev. What tunings would you recommend for atmospheric black metal? Also I'm looking to switch my pickups and was looking into buying SD Black Winters. Would you recommend this or is there something that's better? Thanks.
I’ve not used a set of black winters myself, from what I’ve tried, fishmans are the nicest active pickups I’ve used. Passive, not too sure, but, all Seymour Duncan pickups I’ve used are good
Atmospheric black metal - I’d chose D standard personally, experiment for yourself though
@@DevGohil
Thanks for your reply 🙂
Inquisition vibes @ 11:33
B standard for blackened death metal
For whatever reason a long time ago I decided I liked c standard since it still gave me standard intervals between the strings and two whole steps down was more than down tuned enough. I noticed you skipped it here any particular reason?
9:06
I love C standard
@@DevGohil oh I see my bad
But ya, sick playin dude! You're playin at a level I want to be at one day
Just be precise and strict on yourself and you’ll get there
You my friend are a dam good guitar player...it's funny thinking how bad some Big band guitar players actually are...{Kurt from Metallica} especially when comparing to a very talented shredding machine like yourself..this is what practice does for your playing!
E flat rules👹
on 6s i use dropped C and on my 7s i use dropped A, but I combine all kinda shit from power to thrash in my playing so lol XD
Eb, C# and C are the best tuning for guitars and im willing to throw hands with whoever disagrees.
they're nice tunings
i think b is too low
Drop a
As there is a standard e system of a few strings at the bottom and a low a string on the top to add more lower notes to give more colors
I use D standard for most things, ever since the we recorded the Forneus EP "In The Name Of Khaos".
I remember Forneus, Alex gave me a signed album back in the day!
@@DevGohil Oh nice! A copy of Adinkra? I'm working on the follow up finally!
That's the one@@V3xxe