Yeah, the 432Hz tuning was something some Extreme Metal musicians were using up there to get a slightly distinct sound, especially back in those days. Ditto for the radical use of the HM-2, for its time, with the Death Metal crowd pursuing the chainsaw sound while some of the Black Metal crowd were using it as a kind of brutal tinged fuzz. But hey, 440 or 432 -- those are killer riffs!
You have an awesome playing technique. I like. so on. I'm Polish, but I've been living in Deutschland-Köln for about 12 years. and here I learned to play the guitar, and here I met your channel. I am self-taught.
A lot of bands had weird tunings back in the 80s and 90s especially bands who were recording with a low budget some would do it intentionally some wouldn't
Probably just the tapes that were either sharpening or flattening the pitch by a few cents, because even slayer and every debut album had slightly sharper tuning
Interesting video. I get asked about those tunings often on my channel too when I do covers and stuff so I discussed the topic too in the past. My take on the subject is that the tape machine they had in the studio had some playback speed defect, and that's why the pitch is altered. Mayhem used to tune to E flat when playing live around that time, it can be heard on the Live in Leipzig recording for instance. Varg probably tuned to E standard, but the playback glitch made all those recordings sound a tad sharper than the original tuning at which they were recorded (especially since the synth too is in tune with the guitars, and I doubt they messed with the synth's frequency). I can't say for sure, but that's my guess. Good playing by the way!
Vargs tuning went outta wack because ( from what I have heard and can guess) his guitar had a floating trem and it just settled high. I had that happen on my somber collection part 2 release and man it sounds cold. Thank you for sharing with everyone. Just goes to show that just by changing tuning just a little your options are infinite.
Interesting. To play De Mysteriis, I always tuned perfectly halfway between E and E-flat, and that sounded just right to me. I guess it could just be that that were using the old 432Hz standard too, but I’m not sure what tuners they would have been using to do that
The Burzum tuning for Filosofem sounds like the tuning Impaled Nazarene used for the entire Ugra-Karma album but I'm not sure. I'm also almost certain this was the same for what Dissection used for The Somberlain and sorta what Tsjuder used for majority of the songs for Desert Northern Hell.
So what I’ve gathered from the whole Filosofem recording is that every track other than Dunkelheit were recorded around the same time being that Dunkelheit was the original “Burzum Track”, thus giving it a different tuning and even a slightly different tone if you can notice it.
No. All of the Filosofem songs were recorded at the same time - however, Varg tried recording Dunkleheit on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and didn't like the recording, so he attempted it again on Filosofem.
i thought you are gonna talk about the greater magic to tune it as open Dm (DADFAD) or alternatively open Em (means to just tune up A and D strings to B and E). Its the best for any blackmetal (or maybe metal?) riff. Creating new song or playing others
Deven, Thank you for showing this material. I play myself but I always wonder about their guitar tuning. Now bright as the sun ☀️. A few days ago I had a serious injury to my left hand. Stitched muscles and tendons and veins. Finger from the ring, I can't die it. How many months of rehabilitation does not help, it's the end of a guitar career. that was the biggest dream. which has almost come true. I really like watching you play, etc. And why this change of guitars to Jackson with Dean??? I greet you cordially ... although I do not know you personally, and I would like to because of the guitars, wish me a return to the game. 🎸🤘🤘🤘🎸
@@DevGohil Approx. I understand. And thank you for the kind words about the river. I have to play again. Metal is our life. Am I right??? Thank you, and best regards to you. until next video🎸🤘🤘🤘🎸 The fact is that I have a hard time watching the guitar play. It hurts me that I can't. And will I be able??? 👋
Hey man, good video, I already smelled what the tuning of "de mysteriis dom sathanas" was, but I didn't expect that the tuning of "filosofem" was a 450 hz tuning, very rare in metal. One question, do you know the tunings of "deathcrush" by mayhem, "the somberlain" by dissection and "enter the moonlight gate" by lord belial? I have heard that these tunings also have a particularity in the hz as well, it would be great if you made a video of those tunings, greetings!! 🤘👍
@@DevGohil how low of a tuning do you think can the pickups handle? Like maybe drop Bb? I'm really interested in the guitar, good price point, looks and sounds good for metal playing.
I need to mention that the 2nd half of the opening riff of De Mysteriis starts from a low F, not E. This makes it pretty difficult because you have to skip 2 strings.Otherwise excellent, as always!
I just love this kind of black metal, especially Burzum. It's so raw and beautiful.
Try Nigra Necis it’s fuckig raw like Burzum 😅
Yeah, the 432Hz tuning was something some Extreme Metal musicians were using up there to get a slightly distinct sound, especially back in those days. Ditto for the radical use of the HM-2, for its time, with the Death Metal crowd pursuing the chainsaw sound while some of the Black Metal crowd were using it as a kind of brutal tinged fuzz.
But hey, 440 or 432 -- those are killer riffs!
You the man
450 and 432 as A in E standard tuning they sound best in
I have learned a significant amount from your black metal videos, Deven Gohil, your teachings are a blessing.
Strong
I've wondered this too! i thought it was E flat, but that sounded off too!
Now the world knows
You have an awesome playing technique. I like. so on. I'm Polish, but I've been living in Deutschland-Köln for about 12 years. and here I learned to play the guitar, and here I met your channel. I am self-taught.
Really informative video, good to hear the difference between the tunings
You the man
@3:26 When its coooold….and when its Daaaaark. The freezing Moon can obsesss youuu!
A lot of bands had weird tunings back in the 80s and 90s especially bands who were recording with a low budget some would do it intentionally some wouldn't
Probably just the tapes that were either sharpening or flattening the pitch by a few cents, because even slayer and every debut album had slightly sharper tuning
Excellent video, Dev! Thanks! Very beautiful tuning pitches (for whatever reasons)...
Deffo have their own flavour
Interesting video. I get asked about those tunings often on my channel too when I do covers and stuff so I discussed the topic too in the past. My take on the subject is that the tape machine they had in the studio had some playback speed defect, and that's why the pitch is altered. Mayhem used to tune to E flat when playing live around that time, it can be heard on the Live in Leipzig recording for instance. Varg probably tuned to E standard, but the playback glitch made all those recordings sound a tad sharper than the original tuning at which they were recorded (especially since the synth too is in tune with the guitars, and I doubt they messed with the synth's frequency). I can't say for sure, but that's my guess.
Good playing by the way!
@5:45 “hello my name is uurrrrr Varg Vikernes and i play in urrr ThE BurZum!”
hahahahahahaha
I did not know about Burzum at 450! Always wondered why it sounded different with my shitty attempts. Thanks man!🤘
No worries man glad this helped
Vargs tuning went outta wack because ( from what I have heard and can guess) his guitar had a floating trem and it just settled high. I had that happen on my somber collection part 2 release and man it sounds cold. Thank you for sharing with everyone. Just goes to show that just by changing tuning just a little your options are infinite.
that makes sense
Interesting. To play De Mysteriis, I always tuned perfectly halfway between E and E-flat, and that sounded just right to me. I guess it could just be that that were using the old 432Hz standard too, but I’m not sure what tuners they would have been using to do that
not sure either, 432hz is kinda close the mid of E and Eb
I think Teloch said in one of his play-through videos that they really didn't use tuners back then. :)
Now you need to take the prison Burzum albums and play the keyboard riffs through some krieg tone
Saved for future reference. Great job mate.
no worries
VERY IMPORTANT
The Burzum tuning for Filosofem sounds like the tuning Impaled Nazarene used for the entire Ugra-Karma album but I'm not sure. I'm also almost certain this was the same for what Dissection used for The Somberlain and sorta what Tsjuder used for majority of the songs for Desert Northern Hell.
Any chance you could do a lesson of the song Whore off Chimera by mayhem? I know that era of mayhem isn’t everyone’s favorite so maybe a long shot lol
Blasphemer era mayhem is sick, yeah will add to the list
So what I’ve gathered from the whole Filosofem recording is that every track other than Dunkelheit were recorded around the same time being that Dunkelheit was the original “Burzum Track”, thus giving it a different tuning and even a slightly different tone if you can notice it.
No. All of the Filosofem songs were recorded at the same time - however, Varg tried recording Dunkleheit on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and didn't like the recording, so he attempted it again on Filosofem.
i thought you are gonna talk about the greater magic to tune it as open Dm (DADFAD) or alternatively open Em (means to just tune up A and D strings to B and E). Its the best for any blackmetal (or maybe metal?) riff. Creating new song or playing others
if these bands did play in open tunings, then yeah
Deven, Thank you for showing this material. I play myself but I always wonder about their guitar tuning. Now bright as the sun ☀️. A few days ago I had a serious injury to my left hand. Stitched muscles and tendons and veins. Finger from the ring, I can't die it. How many months of rehabilitation does not help, it's the end of a guitar career. that was the biggest dream. which has almost come true.
I really like watching you play, etc. And why this change of guitars to Jackson with Dean???
I greet you cordially ... although I do not know you personally, and I would like to because of the guitars, wish me a return to the game. 🎸🤘🤘🤘🎸
Ah mate I hope the hand recovers
I changed to Jackson because I moved, trust me, I need a Dean again
@@DevGohil Approx. I understand. And thank you for the kind words about the river. I have to play again. Metal is our life. Am I right??? Thank you, and best regards to you. until next video🎸🤘🤘🤘🎸 The fact is that I have a hard time watching the guitar play. It hurts me that I can't. And will I be able??? 👋
@@MetalAndHell666 I’d say speak to a physician and check man
Hey man, good video, I already smelled what the tuning of "de mysteriis dom sathanas" was, but I didn't expect that the tuning of "filosofem" was a 450 hz tuning, very rare in metal. One question, do you know the tunings of "deathcrush" by mayhem, "the somberlain" by dissection and "enter the moonlight gate" by lord belial? I have heard that these tunings also have a particularity in the hz as well, it would be great if you made a video of those tunings, greetings!! 🤘👍
a second tunings video is incoming
@@DevGohil Oh okay, I'll be looking forward to it, thanks for answering me and good luck in your projects
Awesome playing, guitar and tuning info! And can't resist Dev, any thoughts on Lux Aeterna?
Cheers man, it’s alright, ima stick to ride the lightning tho
Sux Aeterna
What guitar is that? Looks awesome!
Edit: Nevermind, made it to the end of the video just now. Sick!
best guitar Donner sell
Keep up the good work..
thanks man
How about Dissection Somberlain album? Any idea what hz? Not 440.
I will investigate
Cheers 😊
Nice guitar.
It’s solid
@@DevGohil how low of a tuning do you think can the pickups handle? Like maybe drop Bb? I'm really interested in the guitar, good price point, looks and sounds good for metal playing.
@@IrlylikeInFlames best to upgrade these pups but I think they’d be fine for low tunings
@@DevGohil cheers thanks!
I need to mention that the 2nd half of the opening riff of De Mysteriis starts from a low F, not E. This makes it pretty difficult because you have to skip 2 strings.Otherwise excellent, as always!
you sure?
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@@DevGohil Yes, I am:) But I meant the song De Mysteriis which you play as first here, not Freezing Moon that you linked
good ear!
Is the Filosofem tuning different from Burzum/Aske? I know that the original Ea Lord of the Depths recording is sharper/higher than E standard
Will need to investigate
Actually I'm pretty sure that both de mysteriis and at least first burzum album are recorded with half semitone downtuned guitars and bass
Megadeths debut album is tuned to either 430 hz or 432 hz
your picking is so impressive 😭 you put your wrist on vibrate or sum shit
hahah thanks man
New guitar?
Yup
💡
Aren't all of the pre prison burzum albums in 450 hz
Did you use padel?
no pedals
@@DevGohil Thankyou soo much for your reply 🖤
@@HirmeBlessTimung-re9ic I used the audio assault reamp software here
Is it AAAGGG?
Not quite
THANK YOU SHIV MEHRA FROM DEAFHEAVEN!
Greetings
Yo
Please , English speaker.. say Boor-ZOOM. 😢
5:46
6:46
Katharsis also seems to use A=432/430 for Kruzifixxion and VVVVE
i gotta check this out