Good morning from Seattle! Great video as always! My take: I really want to love Aeroplane Heaven's products. Visually, they are gorgeous inside and outside, and you can feel the love that goes in to making the virtual machine. As a WW2-era piston engine aficionado, it is pretty cool they always offer engine cowl removal to view the magic that makes the music. The flight model for the Spit Mk1 has definitely improved as well and does not have the dreadful early MSFS taildragger handling quirks. I do always feel though that something is missing in the immersion experience for AH aircraft. For example, on the Mk1 Spit, there is no engine cutout when pulling negative G. This is a small detail but important to the Mk1 Spit (which is my favorite Spit Mk being a lifelong student of the Battle of Britain) as it required tactics to overcome the shortfall until later solved. A2A got this detail right in their still-excellent and now 12-year old Spit Mk1. I also think that the sound set in the AH offerings are never quite complete. Missing the door, primer, and canopy sounds just take away points from what shows on the surface to be a phenomenal offering. I agree that the new soundest definitely gives the Spit a more authentic feel and is a nice improvement. I know for my UK friends the Spitfire is a national symbol of the nation's resolve and steadfast resistance to the Nazis during the dark early days of WW2 and the AH Spit Mk1 could be a truly outstanding product to reflect this pride. Until then, the Flying Iron Mk9 Spit offers a better fully-finished and polished product. The good news is that the FI Spit has done so through numerous updates. Now, the AH P-51 will hopefully get a flight model update (very needed as it is extremely uprated in performance) and the sounds on the P-51 really need help. I know I have written a book here but thanks all for letting me get on my soapbox... I really like AH offerings for aircraft that are dear to me and hopefully they can iron out the minor things and become an outstanding provider of vintage virtual aircraft. Cheers and thanks again for all your hard work making your videos. They are a really good tool for me to decide which A/C to buy in MSFS :-)
Good morning Andy, apologies for the slow reply! I can totally appreciate where you're coming from and often feel very much the same. As you say, it's pretty clear that Aeroplane Heaven love the aircraft they recreate and I know they are very proud of their offerings; unfortunately that pride often seems to make them a little overly defensive towards criticism and a little bit blind to their shortcomings. I think all of us want these amazing pieces of history (and indeed often national symbols) to be recreated as faithfully as possible and as there are often a few loose ends with AH products, it's only natural that customers are going to want them tied up. I very much echo you own thoughts. The MK I is my favorite Spit and indeed one of my favorite aircraft, so I would love to see the rest of the AH version completed to the same standards as the beautiful external model. Yours truly might actually be to blame for the lack of negative g cutout haha. I did actually preview the MK I ahead of its release and cutout was sort of modelled. The problem was that it wasn't based on g loading, but rather aircraft attitude + it would often lead to the engine quitting entirely thereafter. I pointed it out to AH hoping they might address the issue, but it seems the modelling was done away with altogether. To be fair to them, perhaps it's difficult to model accurately in the sim currently. I too hope there is an update to the P-51, for the reasons you mention. In the mean time (if you weren't aware), there is actually an improved flight model available for it over on flightsim.to; there are also some improved cockpit textures and in theory you can swap out the sounds (a lot of people are using the FI Spit sounds or the Asobo Mustang sounds). The Flying Iron Spit is indeed a wonderful piece of work and they are one of my favored devs, given the amount of care and continued support they put into their products. I'm still keeping all of my fingers crossed that we will one day see the A2A Spitfire in the sim though (my favorite sim addon of all time)! Cheers Andy! It's always great to hear other peoples thoughts and opinions! All the best : )
Haha well, thank you very much, sir! I like to try and apply real-world techniques as best I can during my videos. I’m sure mistakes were made here and there but, for me, a lot of the enjoyment of simming, comes from trying to understand how a specific aircraft is actually flown. Cheers and all the best! : )
Love your videos, the way you present them is so relaxing and entertaining. Thanks for the heads up on the update too, I can't believe they missed the door close/lock sound again!
Thanks very much PlamoMan, really glad you're enjoying the content! Yes, a lot of the issues that I pointed out during my initial review of the review of the aircraft are still there, it's rather disappointing to be frank. Flying Iron have drastically overhauled their Spit on a number of occasions, despite pretty much everyone being happy with it. Meanwhile the AH Spit still has missing sounds, a P8 compass that only works in one direction, a bugged altimeter scale etc. I'm glad that AH did take user feedback onboard and addressed the major sounds issues with the aircraft, but it rather feels like they were only looking to get the product up to a "good enough" standard, rather than genuinely ironing out all of its issues (of course the Spit deserves more!). Cheers and all the best : )
Excellent review as always. I'm glad AH have given the Spitfire some more attention. I can't understand why some people are so ani-them, I think they do a great job, and the aircraft a quite affordable. I wish Asobo would model post-takeoff wheel spin, it makes me smile each time you say "touch the brakes", when the wheels are stationary, and have been since the second the aircraft left the ground!
Thanks very much John, glad you enjoyed it! I’m never one to pass up on an opportunity to feature a Spitfire again ; ) Is the wheel spin a sim issue? I had thought it was my replay tool causing that actually. I’ve only ever taken the time to look at the wheels when I’m playing back a recording, so I wasn’t aware that the sim had the same behaviour by default haha (I do wonder though, as I also hear some brake squeal when using the replay tool). Either way, old habits die hard : P Cheers! : )
Likewise Issac. I very rarely get the opportunity to sim for “leisure” these days, but when I do, I’ll often head straight for the Spitfire - it’s just a magical aircraft : ) All the best!
A nice video again as usual. Cannot help but notice the sound of your voice from 27:27 onwards (and just before entering the cockpit) is of a very different and much improved quality. Not sure of that was just a test or something but that does sound very good.
I’m very happy to hear that you think so sir! A couple of people have pointed this out, which is great news, as I did in fact recently purchase a new mic (I figured it was finally time to retire my old £15 monstrosity haha). I’m no audiophile, so I couldn’t even tell whether it was an improvement or not to be honest, but it seems to have been positively received overall : ) Thanks for the feedback - glad you enjoyed the video!
Glad it’s bringing you some more enjoyment with the MK I Roland! Still a few improvements I would like to see on the aircraft, but it’s certainly a solid step in the right direction : ) That’s a good point! I’m sure the P-51 will get an upgrade, but I hope Aeroplane Heaven will show the F3F some love as well. Some decent sounds would make the world of difference there. Hope you’re having a cracking weekend. Cheers!
Thank you very much indeed Daniel! I'm really glad you're enjoying the content. It's always a joy to hear and very much appreciated! My absolute pleasure - thank you very much for watching. All the best : )
Thanks James. Haha, well you know I very much enjoy that sort of thing (more so in the Spit, than in any other aircraft I would say), but since the primary point of the video was to explore the new sound package, I thought it made sense to enjoy the engine note alone. One for another day I guess ; ) Thanks as always! : )
Nice video. Your enthusiasm shines through. Thank you for this. I am toying with the idea of purchasing MSFS 2024 and a really good PC set up. Just trying to get some idea of what I might be letting myself in for if I part with so much cash.
Thanks you very much, Douglas! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video; it was my absolute pleasure - this was one of those videos that I very much enjoyed making (how could one not enjoy a Spitfire in the British countryside?). If you’re looking at a particularly pricey setup, you might find some of my newer content more relevant. This video was made on an older, somewhat “mid tier” machine (I’ve subsequently upgraded), although it goes to prove that MSFS can still look great, even on somewhat lower settings. This will give you some idea of the sim on Ultra settings: th-cam.com/video/mHjVlWFF7LE/w-d-xo.html Either way, whilst MSFS still has its issues, it’s a pretty brilliant sim these days. X-Plane is still better (in most regards) for flight modelling and DCS does combat / flight modelling better also, but MSFS has come on a long way and no sim comes close in terms of graphical quality / atmosphere etc (MSFS 2024 is looking very promising also). I hope that helps a little. Thanks very much again for the kind words and best of luck with the whole endeavour! : )
When you reached the town and the castle, I realized I have actually flown there in the sim. In the Kodiak I believe. Landed at the same airfield too. I love the spitfire, but can’t see myself buying another in addition to the flyingiron mk ix.
Haha, is that so Øystein. Was that with one of these career-style addons sending you there? Caernarfon actually used to be my go-to airport for this sort of flying back in the FS2004 / FSX days - primarily for heading over to Snowdonia. For whatever reason I stopped going there though, so this was the first time in ages - great fun! Yes, the Aeroplane Heaven MK I is really only worth picking up if you’re a complete sucker for a Spitfire (like me). I know that many already own the MK IX and it is indeed a great / superior product. Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I was just checking out the British scenery, using POIs for VFR waypoints. I’ve tried one career addon, but it wasn’t for me. I prefer making my own flights and challenges. MSFS is such a massive sandbox!
Another nice flight and video. North Wales is a great place to fly around, I often find myself up there. Nice to see AH improving their Spit but I'm gonna stick to my Mk IX as it still seems to be the superior product. I'm completely with you when it comes to more audio feedback especially with afterburners as you said. There's some sims/planes where you get hardly any noticeable feedback at all when you kick in the 'burners and I'd find myself accidentally straying into the AB zone without noticing. Some of the best airframe sounds I've experienced is probably Heatblur's F-14 in DCS, love the way that cockpit rattles and shakes and groans when you're manoeuvring. I've noticed that your voice is changing at the start and end of some of your past vids. Guessing you got a new mic and recorded the intros and outros on that. You almost sound like a differnet person lol. Anyway great vid as always, cheers.
Thank you sir! A beautiful aircraft around a beautiful region. You'll get no disagreement from me regarding the MK IX, it's just annoying because the MK I is so darn beautiful haha. Ha, I "hate" the shaking and rattling of the Heatblur F-14, as it just reminds me that once again I've overcooked it, bled off too much speed and undoubtedly I'm about to find someone on my six in the next couple of seconds : P Spot on! I have indeed picked up a new mic. I'm still fiddling around with the settings at the moment, so that would account for the change of voice in this video, but indeed in some cases I will be re-recording intros / outros for older content (that has yet to be released), so it might sound a bit peculiar for a while haha. I hope it's generally an improvement, even if I do sounds somewhat different. It's amazing how much difference a mic can make and even how much one's voice changes from day to day (not to mention over time). I watched back one of my old videos the other day - I sounded like a nasally 14 yr old boy! XD Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations wait, so you're not a 14 year old boy-wonder airbus pilot?! Everything I know is a lie. I actually prefer the IX over the I in general l, partly due to being a contrarian ass and also rampant hipsterism with preferring the lesser known over the popular. Gimme a seafire man! But you can't really go wrong with any spitfire really and there's a mark for everyone. Well apart from the tandem trainers, those are hideously ugly in my opinion.
Bit of both RP. The wheels didn’t touch down at the same time, but the replay tool I use seems, to keep the brakes on at all times - so the wheels always stop as soon as they aren’t on the ground. In this case though, the left wheel did touch down first. I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I actually prefer this to the Flying Iron Spitfire. Very enjoyable to fly. I also like the 3d filler cap - not painted on like Flying Iron. Maybe I'm pedantic but it's literally right in front of you when flying. Loved seeing the Mk1 put through its paces in one of my favourite areas irl.
Oooof, that's fighting talk right there Roland! : P I'm inclined to agree that the AH Spit does have the more beautiful external model and the MK I is the more beautiful variant in general. I do enjoy both addons, but I find myself focusing on the MK I's shortfalls more than I would like (perhaps because I spent countless hours in the A2A MK I haha). For me, the FlyingIron MK IX still has the AH MK I beat ; ) Really glad you enjoyed the flight! All the best : )
Just a minor nit pick related to the flight modelling, but I thought the take-off dynamics looked a bit suspect when viewed initially from within, but then confirmed via the external view. In the real world, the tail wheel would lift first as the increasing airflow over the flying surfaces gets going, and as the fuselage both naturally aligns with the airflow and as the pilot adds a little forward stick and rudder to counter the usual tail dragger issues. Then, once established in a more level and streamlined attitude, the main wheels would only later lift off, once flying speed had been reached. I think it's unrealistic, from a modelling perspective, that flying speed would be reached from such a tail down and nose up attitude, so that issue may need some more sim design work. Sadly, I have never flown a Spitfire, but I have flown tail draggers.
@@Ayeshteni Indeed, same here, and I was waiting for the effect and it just didn't happen. Gyroscopic Precession is a very strong force, one that every new tail dragger pilot will soon get to know on their very first take-off! To explain myself to those unfamiliar with this, the plane's propeller is basically a big spinning gyroscope, where any force exerted upon it, will take effect 90 degrees along the direction of rotation past the point that the force is first applied. Thus, pitching the tail up and the nose down as a tail dragger gets to the stage of lifting the tail, has the effect of wanting to yaw the fuselage in the direction that the gyroscopic force ends up being applied. So, if the propeller rotates anti-clockwise as you look at it from the pilot's seat, then the forward pitching movement will apply a forward force to the top of the propeller disc, but due to Precession, the effect of that force is only applied 90 degrees around the plane of rotation so, in that case a forward force pushing to the left side of the rotating disc is the end result, which results in a strong yaw to the right. To complicate things further, if the yaw is not controlled, then the yaw itself is another force being applied to the gyroscope, in that case a forwards force to the left, which acts 90 degrees around, so applies to the bottom of the disc, wanting to pitch the nose back up and tail back down! Over-corrections when that all happens, just throws in further forces, so that is why you will often see a new pilot in a tail dragger yawing and pitching around until it eventually gets off the ground, or ends up in a hedge. So, in this example, smooth stick forward and smooth left rudder are needed as the tail first lifts, unless you want to go off on a gardening expedition into the grass and bushes and stuff on the right! In summary, be ready with the rudder as the tail lifts, or you will depart the runway to one side, or the other, depending upon the rotation of the propeller. Hands up all new tail dragging pilots who have done this. Now hands up all who said no, who were not being honest!
Hi Keith, Thanks very much for the observation and indeed your excellent follow-up post! Most of what you saw during the takeoff was my own doing actually. I find many taildraggers in the sim still behave sub-optimally, with a number (including the Aeroplane Heaven Spitfire - though it is far from the worst offender) displaying strange ground handling behaviours. One of the best ways I’ve found to mitigate these sorts of effects in the sim, is to keep the tail down on the runway during the takeoff. Generally not realistic of course, but it makes the aircraft much more stable and controllable (there are certain addons where the plane will violently depart out to the left / right and be unrecoverable thereafter). So it does indeed look a bit odd, a Spitfire taking off in such a fashion, but it’s the best way I’ve found of doing things until tailwheel flight modelling on certain addons is improved. I hope that clarifies things a little. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the clarification. As I am sure you know, I was not in any way criticising you or the video, just the flight dynamics of the simulation. In time they will get the simulation more realistic for tail draggers I am sure!
Beauty of a video, plane and area. Seem to have your compass set wrong though, Caernarfon NW of Snowdonia not SW, and the castle W of the town not S. I’ll take a look at the plane although I have the FI MK IX and love that but a MK I might be a nice addition.
Thanks very much James, I'm really glad you enjoyed the flight! Haha, fair point; I don't recall whether I set the compass incorrectly (or not at all), but I think I had my mental bearings wrong at any rate XD The FlyingIron Spit is a far more polished addon overall, but there is just something more majestic about a MK I (somewhat difficult to recommend the addon though, sadly - it just feels a little bit "basic"). Cheers and all the best! : )
Hi Vainsoleint, The Flying Iron Spitfire is definitely the higher quality product of the two overall. It generally looks better, flies and sounds better and it has more systems depth, basic failures etc. Flying Iron have also put out a number of comprehensive updates over the course of the products lifespan (despite everyone already being happy with the product they had). The AH Spit isn't bad; the MK I is beautiful and I would say that the external model perhaps bests the MK IX, but generally it just isn't up to the same standards and it still has quite a number of issues etc. I hope that helps a little . Cheers and all the best! : )
@@xjrthirteen Well than i think its a mind / mouth problem. My thoughts where about the impressive scenery in MSFS he flew the Spitfire and the simulation level from DCS it could make it even better. Thats my wow. The rest is another topic.
I found the sound update removed all of the already limited bass to the engine sound, not sure if that's how it should be or if something was wrong with my uodate.
I doubt it’s anything wrong on your end Sleight, I would imagine the sounds would either work or they wouldn’t. I think what you’re describing, is what I was alluding to when I mentioned that “it sounds like I’m hearing the engine through a wall”. The engine doesn’t seem to have much presence, probably due to the lack of bass that you mention. I still think the sounds are an improvement overall, but not drastically so. All the best : )
I have so enjoyed watching your videos since I discovered your channel earlier today. I've been flying in XPlane11 for the past 2 years although I have been so impressed the MSFS2020. As for the scenery in this video is this what it looks like out of the box or did you have to purchase this scenery separately? Many thanks once again.
Hello Ian. Apologies for the slow reply, I'm just catching up on comments now. Thanks very much for the kind words, I'm really glad you're enjoying the content! Caernarfon airport was a piece of payware scenery, but otherwise everything you saw here was entirely default. MSFS can be pretty incredible where the scenery is concerned, although some areas look better than others (with this flight being towards the better end of the spectrum). I hope that clarifies things. I very much enjoy both X-Plane and MSFS, but for this sort of flying, Microsoft's flight simulator is hard to beat ; ) Thanks once again and all the best! : )
Great vid! I agree, the sounds were better but not a complete overhaul (as you mentioned). A separate point - visuals look great - do you use High settings or tailor them slightly?
Thanks very much Rob, glad you enjoyed it! Yes, its a step in the right direction, but the Spit still has a number of issues (some of which would be simple to fix) and I'm wondering if AH are going to address them at all at this point. I use the "High End" preset in the sim. I slightly bump up the render distance of the autogen and I have the caching set to "Ultra". I also have motion blur and AI traffic turned off, just to save a few fps. For videos like this, I generally try and choose favourable weather themes and times of the day; lighting makes the biggest difference in terms of how MSFS looks I find (clear skies at midday, the sim often doesn't look that great). I hope that helps a little? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for the reply. I agree - would be great to see them get it ‘over the Finish line’ Good to know about turning those features off and yes, it’s all about lighting. Thanks again! Cheers, Rutch.
FlyingIron’s Spit is quite a bit better overall Piloto. I love the MK I as an aircraft (it’s my favourite MK of Spitfire), but the MK IX in MSFS is so much more polished, has better sounds, systems modelling, texturing internally etc. FlyingIron’s support of their product has also been incredible - multiple huge updates that have really taken their Spit from strength to strength (even though people were very happy with the product on release). I hope that helps a little? All the best! : )
Excellent showcase for the update. Loved the cinematography !. The lighting and clouds that really reflects a typical U.K. airstrip. Never guaranteed blue skies or sunshine !. To date I cannot make up my mind, FlyingIron or Aeroplane Heaven ?. Any thoughts ?. I always appreciate your very detailed reviews. Your honesty and integrity comes through in all your videos. A good balance of positives and negatives. Many thanks.
Thanks very much for the kind words I.T Mann - I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! The Flying Iron Spitfire is definitely the higher quality product of the two overall. It generally looks better, flies and sounds better and it has more systems depth, basic failures etc. Flying Iron have also put out a number of comprehensive updates over the course of the products lifespan (despite everyone already being happy with the product they had). The AH Spit isn't bad; the MK I is beautiful and I would say that the external model perhaps bests the MK IX, but generally it just isn't up to the same standards and it still has quite a number of issues etc. I hope that helps a little. I can assure it's impartial advice, as I have a big soft spot for the MK I in reality haha. Thanks once again and all the best! : )
Hi Captain Bones. Thanks very much, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! At the time of recording, my graphics settings were broadly as such: - “High End” preset - Pre-Cache = Ultra - Terrain and Object visibility sliders set at 125% (sorry, I forget the actual names of them) - Motion Blur = Off - Glass Cockpit Refresh = Medium - AI Traffic = Off - VSync = On / 60fps That gives a nice balance between graphical fidelity and performance. I only run at 1080p, hence the decent FPS / smooth performance. The things I’ve turned off / down are known to be famerate hogs. It’s important to note, I also spend a lot of time tweaking the weather / lighting in my videos, which accounts for much of the graphical fidelity you see (as that can make a huge different to how the sim looks overall). I hope that helps a little! All the best : )
I enjoy this Mk 1 as well as the FlyingIron MkIX, possibly because the Mk 1 was the type used in the Battle of Britain. A bit of history I suppose. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on the update, progress but as you say maybe a little more needed.
The MK I is my favourite Spit variant (in the real world) without a doubt Peter, as I’m sure is the case for many. It’s a shame the AH version doesn’t quite have the same level of polish as the Flying Iron MK IX. I’m really hoping we’ll see the A2A MK I one of these days; I don’t know if you’ve ever had the pleasure of trying it, but I would go as far as to say it is my favourite sim addon of all time! : ) A nice little step in the right direction for the AH MK I though, let’s hope it continues (though I fear this may now be “it”). Cheers!
I know X-Plane 12 will probably have the edge in terms of pure flight modeling and whatnot, but I'm sorry, this kind of eye candy goes a LONG way to helping me as a non-pilot look past it. No shame in admitting I'm the casual MSFS was aiming at I suppose, as long as they keep working at it and improving it. I'll never get to see 99% of these places IRL, after all, so this is a good way to get close.
Haha, I’m afraid that’s all far too pragmatic John. I thought we had all agreed long ago, that you aren’t actually allowed to have any fun whilst flight simming!! : P No, you’re absolutely right of course. It doesn’t look like MSFS is going to be beat in the graphical department any time soon and the sim continues to move (slowly) in the right direction. Personally I can take the graphical hit with X-Plane, because I do enjoy how it flies, but I’m finding less and less reasons to fire up the sim these days. I’m still very much looking forward to seeing what X-Plane 12 has to offer, but it’s already pretty clear from the previews, that it won’t be *this*. MSFS is unique, in that as you allude to, it is the only sim in which one can actually explore the world and have a genuine adventure. As always, all the best! : )
Hi Donity, It’s an effect I add during editing, using a program called Audacity. The effect can’t be created “on the fly” as far as I’m aware, but I’d be happy to outline the details, if you want to use the same effect for recordings etc. All the best! : )
Yes, I would very much agree Noel. I think the external model of the MK I has the Flying Iron Spit beat, but otherwise the MK IX wins on most counts (as you say, FI have really set the bar in many respects). All the best : )
Hi James, The soundset is included with the package. Aeroplane Heaven updated the soundset some months ago and I was checking it out in this video. I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I can't tell you how much pleasure I get from flying the Spit around the British countryside. I will say this one seems to have a faster roll rate than the Flying Iron version (including the clipped-wing). That said, I think I still prefer the Flying Iron. Do you have a favourite between the two?
Simming doesn't get much better in than that does it Abberjam! ; ) Overall, I have to say that I largely prefer FlyingIron's efforts. The MK IX is a much more polished and immersive product and continues to go from strength to strength. I think Aeroplane Heaven's MK I is a beauty visual effort and the MK I is my favourite MK of Spitfire undoubtedly, but the addon still has a number of issues (including still the sounds) and I would have liked to see a bit more fidelity in the product etc. Anyway, that was a long-winded way of saying that I like both addons, but the MK IX generally has the MK I beat haha. Cheers and all the best! : )
I have her too and ok little improvements but not to make it flyable. No sound opening side door and canopy is already a no go not even wanting to start the engine and I did also for testing purposes but still no base or real rumble spitting flames so terrible. Only Flying Iron make the spit awesome. I have all ah planes and they all suffer same bad engines noises that are not loud enough and lack base. Great video .
Thanks Sven, glad you enjoyed the video : ) Generally speaking, I would have to agree with you. I still enjoy the MK I personally and there have been some improvements without a doubt, but there are still a lot of areas of the AH Spit that are lacking. It feels like the aircraft is being tinkered with, but there doesn’t seem to be any impetus to tie up all the loose ends and really elevate the product. FlyingIron on the other hand, have radically overhauled their product on a number of occasions; they clearly want the MK IX to be the best it can be and it’s all the more impressive, since everybody has been happy with their Spit, almost since it’s release. Cheers and all the best!
Hi Einherz, I got the update through Orbx. I suspect that if you haven’t got it yet, the Marketplace update may be lagging a little bit behind (as usual). That being said, I downloaded the update a little while back, so that may be the one you’re referring to (I downloaded it about 2 weeks ago, so that sounds about right vs your date). All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations opposite situation:) i get one from ah service. so i thought you are take it from marketplace, even can not imagine orbx update it after 3 weeks. this is strange, i have some orbx stuff. couple a days and they give the thing... ah. now i read all the text lol. two weeks it's ok. i get it from 24jun so in my crazy mind it's new one, that i didn't get, or you took it from marketplace, that's can push update after month off release:)
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I hoped to enjoy AH products, but after getting burned hard with the Electra, i guess i won't be giving another chance at their products.
Hi Isidro, Yes, unfortunately Aeroplane Heaven do sometimes have a bit of a habit of shooting themselves in the foot. They obviously have some talent and they make the type of aircraft that I and I think many others enjoy, but there are often too many loose ends left on release. I never tried the Electra myself, but I gather it had quite a long list of issues when it launched and I know it upset a lot of customers. A shame. . . Cheers and all the best : )
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Haha, funny that Sesgow; just goes to show how the world evolves and moves on I suppose. . . For me there will only ever be one *true* Merlin engine though ; ) All the best! : )
Idling sounds fantastic, but takeoff and cruise still sound like it was recorded 2 km away with a 20 year old microphone. And interior engine sound is still way-off. Disappointing :/
Hi James, Haha, it’s funny and just goes to prove how differently we all hear sounds (whether that’s related to hardware, or our own ears); I wasn’t a fan of the idling sounds, but quite liked the cruise sounds XD I’ll happily admit I’m no audiophile though. I think I like the cruise sounds because you can hear a Spit “in there”, but I agree that there is very much a “flyby from a distance” sort of vibe to it. Either way, for sure the new sounds are not raising the bar. . . All the best! : )
Haha, apologies sir! I’ve obviously mixed up my Welsh hiking adventures somewhere along the way then XD I remember hiking somewhere in Wales and you could walk more than 50m without coming across another abandoned mineshaft entrance etc (I found it absolutely fascinating). I can’t remember where that would have been then, but it was a thoroughly enjoyable few days at any rate! All the best : )
Awesome vid ;). What sort of douche b signs off on getting two massive wind turbines installed on or around an active airfield? This is why humanity is doomed.
Thanks very much Ikova, glad you enjoyed it! Haha! I did think rather the same myself, but I figured there must be some logic to their otherwise bizarre decision. It does rather seem to be inviting an accident though - I’m certainly surprised it was given the go-ahead! Cheers and all the best : )
You flew just over my house, lol. Great video as always. Diolch yn fawr iawn.👍
6:35 To take such a beauty as the Spitfire and place it anywhere on earth to fly is such a wondrous thing.
Absolutely, DW; that is the beauty of MSFS (being able to go anywhere in the world)!
Cheers, all the best : )
Good morning from Seattle! Great video as always!
My take: I really want to love Aeroplane Heaven's products. Visually, they are gorgeous inside and outside, and you can feel the love that goes in to making the virtual machine. As a WW2-era piston engine aficionado, it is pretty cool they always offer engine cowl removal to view the magic that makes the music. The flight model for the Spit Mk1 has definitely improved as well and does not have the dreadful early MSFS taildragger handling quirks.
I do always feel though that something is missing in the immersion experience for AH aircraft. For example, on the Mk1 Spit, there is no engine cutout when pulling negative G. This is a small detail but important to the Mk1 Spit (which is my favorite Spit Mk being a lifelong student of the Battle of Britain) as it required tactics to overcome the shortfall until later solved. A2A got this detail right in their still-excellent and now 12-year old Spit Mk1. I also think that the sound set in the AH offerings are never quite complete. Missing the door, primer, and canopy sounds just take away points from what shows on the surface to be a phenomenal offering. I agree that the new soundest definitely gives the Spit a more authentic feel and is a nice improvement.
I know for my UK friends the Spitfire is a national symbol of the nation's resolve and steadfast resistance to the Nazis during the dark early days of WW2 and the AH Spit Mk1 could be a truly outstanding product to reflect this pride. Until then, the Flying Iron Mk9 Spit offers a better fully-finished and polished product. The good news is that the FI Spit has done so through numerous updates.
Now, the AH P-51 will hopefully get a flight model update (very needed as it is extremely uprated in performance) and the sounds on the P-51 really need help.
I know I have written a book here but thanks all for letting me get on my soapbox... I really like AH offerings for aircraft that are dear to me and hopefully they can iron out the minor things and become an outstanding provider of vintage virtual aircraft.
Cheers and thanks again for all your hard work making your videos. They are a really good tool for me to decide which A/C to buy in MSFS :-)
Good morning Andy, apologies for the slow reply!
I can totally appreciate where you're coming from and often feel very much the same. As you say, it's pretty clear that Aeroplane Heaven love the aircraft they recreate and I know they are very proud of their offerings; unfortunately that pride often seems to make them a little overly defensive towards criticism and a little bit blind to their shortcomings. I think all of us want these amazing pieces of history (and indeed often national symbols) to be recreated as faithfully as possible and as there are often a few loose ends with AH products, it's only natural that customers are going to want them tied up. I very much echo you own thoughts. The MK I is my favorite Spit and indeed one of my favorite aircraft, so I would love to see the rest of the AH version completed to the same standards as the beautiful external model.
Yours truly might actually be to blame for the lack of negative g cutout haha. I did actually preview the MK I ahead of its release and cutout was sort of modelled. The problem was that it wasn't based on g loading, but rather aircraft attitude + it would often lead to the engine quitting entirely thereafter. I pointed it out to AH hoping they might address the issue, but it seems the modelling was done away with altogether. To be fair to them, perhaps it's difficult to model accurately in the sim currently.
I too hope there is an update to the P-51, for the reasons you mention. In the mean time (if you weren't aware), there is actually an improved flight model available for it over on flightsim.to; there are also some improved cockpit textures and in theory you can swap out the sounds (a lot of people are using the FI Spit sounds or the Asobo Mustang sounds).
The Flying Iron Spit is indeed a wonderful piece of work and they are one of my favored devs, given the amount of care and continued support they put into their products. I'm still keeping all of my fingers crossed that we will one day see the A2A Spitfire in the sim though (my favorite sim addon of all time)!
Cheers Andy! It's always great to hear other peoples thoughts and opinions!
All the best : )
The first sim pilot that tips the breaks after takeoff! Excellent airmanship!
Haha well, thank you very much, sir! I like to try and apply real-world techniques as best I can during my videos. I’m sure mistakes were made here and there but, for me, a lot of the enjoyment of simming, comes from trying to understand how a specific aircraft is actually flown.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Love your videos, the way you present them is so relaxing and entertaining. Thanks for the heads up on the update too, I can't believe they missed the door close/lock sound again!
Thanks very much PlamoMan, really glad you're enjoying the content!
Yes, a lot of the issues that I pointed out during my initial review of the review of the aircraft are still there, it's rather disappointing to be frank. Flying Iron have drastically overhauled their Spit on a number of occasions, despite pretty much everyone being happy with it. Meanwhile the AH Spit still has missing sounds, a P8 compass that only works in one direction, a bugged altimeter scale etc. I'm glad that AH did take user feedback onboard and addressed the major sounds issues with the aircraft, but it rather feels like they were only looking to get the product up to a "good enough" standard, rather than genuinely ironing out all of its issues (of course the Spit deserves more!).
Cheers and all the best : )
Excellent review as always. I'm glad AH have given the Spitfire some more attention. I can't understand why some people are so ani-them, I think they do a great job, and the aircraft a quite affordable. I wish Asobo would model post-takeoff wheel spin, it makes me smile each time you say "touch the brakes", when the wheels are stationary, and have been since the second the aircraft left the ground!
Thanks very much John, glad you enjoyed it! I’m never one to pass up on an opportunity to feature a Spitfire again ; )
Is the wheel spin a sim issue? I had thought it was my replay tool causing that actually. I’ve only ever taken the time to look at the wheels when I’m playing back a recording, so I wasn’t aware that the sim had the same behaviour by default haha (I do wonder though, as I also hear some brake squeal when using the replay tool). Either way, old habits die hard : P
Cheers! : )
Excellent choice of location to showcase aircraft. 😊
Thanks very much Michel, I’m glad you enjoyed it! It’s definitely one of my favourite spots in the sim : )
Cheers, all the best!
I have over 100 planes downloaded/bought.... Spitfire always seems to grab my attention when I turn on the Sim. I love everything about it!
Likewise Issac. I very rarely get the opportunity to sim for “leisure” these days, but when I do, I’ll often head straight for the Spitfire - it’s just a magical aircraft : )
All the best!
I love the start up sound of that Merlin engine, it’s my dream to fly in a spitfire one day, just need to find a place that’ll help me do it
Likewise, Wolfsong; if I could try flying any one aircraft, I think the Spitfire would have to be it! Best of luck with your endeavours : )
A nice video again as usual. Cannot help but notice the sound of your voice from 27:27 onwards (and just before entering the cockpit) is of a very different and much improved quality. Not sure of that was just a test or something but that does sound very good.
I’m very happy to hear that you think so sir! A couple of people have pointed this out, which is great news, as I did in fact recently purchase a new mic (I figured it was finally time to retire my old £15 monstrosity haha).
I’m no audiophile, so I couldn’t even tell whether it was an improvement or not to be honest, but it seems to have been positively received overall : )
Thanks for the feedback - glad you enjoyed the video!
Great views from the cockpit😁👍
Thanks very much Buzz! Glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
I love the way the Mk1 flies, and now it has decent sounds 👌.
Hoping they update the F3F. Those inter-war radials sound glorious irl.
Glad it’s bringing you some more enjoyment with the MK I Roland! Still a few improvements I would like to see on the aircraft, but it’s certainly a solid step in the right direction : )
That’s a good point! I’m sure the P-51 will get an upgrade, but I hope Aeroplane Heaven will show the F3F some love as well. Some decent sounds would make the world of difference there.
Hope you’re having a cracking weekend. Cheers!
Your videos are absolutely superb - each and every one. Thank you so much!
Thank you very much indeed Daniel! I'm really glad you're enjoying the content. It's always a joy to hear and very much appreciated!
My absolute pleasure - thank you very much for watching. All the best : )
Nice video, I would have liked an outside whit music kind of stuff. All the same nice one, thank you.
Thanks James. Haha, well you know I very much enjoy that sort of thing (more so in the Spit, than in any other aircraft I would say), but since the primary point of the video was to explore the new sound package, I thought it made sense to enjoy the engine note alone. One for another day I guess ; )
Thanks as always! : )
@VickersV: The only music you need, is the full throated roar of the Merlin! Sadly missing in this example.
Nice video. Your enthusiasm shines through. Thank you for this. I am toying with the idea of purchasing MSFS 2024 and a really good PC set up. Just trying to get some idea of what I might be letting myself in for if I part with so much cash.
Thanks you very much, Douglas! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video; it was my absolute pleasure - this was one of those videos that I very much enjoyed making (how could one not enjoy a Spitfire in the British countryside?).
If you’re looking at a particularly pricey setup, you might find some of my newer content more relevant. This video was made on an older, somewhat “mid tier” machine (I’ve subsequently upgraded), although it goes to prove that MSFS can still look great, even on somewhat lower settings.
This will give you some idea of the sim on Ultra settings: th-cam.com/video/mHjVlWFF7LE/w-d-xo.html
Either way, whilst MSFS still has its issues, it’s a pretty brilliant sim these days. X-Plane is still better (in most regards) for flight modelling and DCS does combat / flight modelling better also, but MSFS has come on a long way and no sim comes close in terms of graphical quality / atmosphere etc (MSFS 2024 is looking very promising also).
I hope that helps a little. Thanks very much again for the kind words and best of luck with the whole endeavour! : )
When you reached the town and the castle, I realized I have actually flown there in the sim. In the Kodiak I believe. Landed at the same airfield too. I love the spitfire, but can’t see myself buying another in addition to the flyingiron mk ix.
Haha, is that so Øystein. Was that with one of these career-style addons sending you there?
Caernarfon actually used to be my go-to airport for this sort of flying back in the FS2004 / FSX days - primarily for heading over to Snowdonia. For whatever reason I stopped going there though, so this was the first time in ages - great fun!
Yes, the Aeroplane Heaven MK I is really only worth picking up if you’re a complete sucker for a Spitfire (like me). I know that many already own the MK IX and it is indeed a great / superior product.
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I was just checking out the British scenery, using POIs for VFR waypoints. I’ve tried one career addon, but it wasn’t for me. I prefer making my own flights and challenges. MSFS is such a massive sandbox!
Another nice flight and video. North Wales is a great place to fly around, I often find myself up there. Nice to see AH improving their Spit but I'm gonna stick to my Mk IX as it still seems to be the superior product. I'm completely with you when it comes to more audio feedback especially with afterburners as you said. There's some sims/planes where you get hardly any noticeable feedback at all when you kick in the 'burners and I'd find myself accidentally straying into the AB zone without noticing. Some of the best airframe sounds I've experienced is probably Heatblur's F-14 in DCS, love the way that cockpit rattles and shakes and groans when you're manoeuvring.
I've noticed that your voice is changing at the start and end of some of your past vids. Guessing you got a new mic and recorded the intros and outros on that. You almost sound like a differnet person lol. Anyway great vid as always, cheers.
Thank you sir! A beautiful aircraft around a beautiful region.
You'll get no disagreement from me regarding the MK IX, it's just annoying because the MK I is so darn beautiful haha.
Ha, I "hate" the shaking and rattling of the Heatblur F-14, as it just reminds me that once again I've overcooked it, bled off too much speed and undoubtedly I'm about to find someone on my six in the next couple of seconds : P
Spot on! I have indeed picked up a new mic. I'm still fiddling around with the settings at the moment, so that would account for the change of voice in this video, but indeed in some cases I will be re-recording intros / outros for older content (that has yet to be released), so it might sound a bit peculiar for a while haha. I hope it's generally an improvement, even if I do sounds somewhat different. It's amazing how much difference a mic can make and even how much one's voice changes from day to day (not to mention over time). I watched back one of my old videos the other day - I sounded like a nasally 14 yr old boy! XD
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations wait, so you're not a 14 year old boy-wonder airbus pilot?! Everything I know is a lie.
I actually prefer the IX over the I in general l, partly due to being a contrarian ass and also rampant hipsterism with preferring the lesser known over the popular. Gimme a seafire man!
But you can't really go wrong with any spitfire really and there's a mark for everyone. Well apart from the tandem trainers, those are hideously ugly in my opinion.
Wheels not spinning at 24:32. Bug? Or was the right wheel not on the runway at that moment?
Bit of both RP. The wheels didn’t touch down at the same time, but the replay tool I use seems, to keep the brakes on at all times - so the wheels always stop as soon as they aren’t on the ground. In this case though, the left wheel did touch down first.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I actually prefer this to the Flying Iron Spitfire. Very enjoyable to fly. I also like the 3d filler cap - not painted on like Flying Iron. Maybe I'm pedantic but it's literally right in front of you when flying.
Loved seeing the Mk1 put through its paces in one of my favourite areas irl.
Oooof, that's fighting talk right there Roland! : P
I'm inclined to agree that the AH Spit does have the more beautiful external model and the MK I is the more beautiful variant in general. I do enjoy both addons, but I find myself focusing on the MK I's shortfalls more than I would like (perhaps because I spent countless hours in the A2A MK I haha). For me, the FlyingIron MK IX still has the AH MK I beat ; )
Really glad you enjoyed the flight! All the best : )
FlyingIron all ways for me
Splendid Video Thank You
My pleasure Mike! Thanks as always : )
I hope Aeroplane Heaven gets around to making the FW 190 soon. Love the Spit……👍🇦🇺
Omg wouldnt that be nice. I knida want also a Heinkel III so i can fly ovr the channel
FlyingIron is making one and a 109. Cant wait
@@piloto2412 You mean Heinkel 111?
How do you know they are working on it. Theres no news about it
@@piloto2412 Yes you can find the info on their website.
Just a minor nit pick related to the flight modelling, but I thought the take-off dynamics looked a bit suspect when viewed initially from within, but then confirmed via the external view. In the real world, the tail wheel would lift first as the increasing airflow over the flying surfaces gets going, and as the fuselage both naturally aligns with the airflow and as the pilot adds a little forward stick and rudder to counter the usual tail dragger issues. Then, once established in a more level and streamlined attitude, the main wheels would only later lift off, once flying speed had been reached. I think it's unrealistic, from a modelling perspective, that flying speed would be reached from such a tail down and nose up attitude, so that issue may need some more sim design work.
Sadly, I have never flown a Spitfire, but I have flown tail draggers.
Agreed. Noticed that immediately myself.
@@Ayeshteni Indeed, same here, and I was waiting for the effect and it just didn't happen.
Gyroscopic Precession is a very strong force, one that every new tail dragger pilot will soon get to know on their very first take-off!
To explain myself to those unfamiliar with this, the plane's propeller is basically a big spinning gyroscope, where any force exerted upon it, will take effect 90 degrees along the direction of rotation past the point that the force is first applied.
Thus, pitching the tail up and the nose down as a tail dragger gets to the stage of lifting the tail, has the effect of wanting to yaw the fuselage in the direction that the gyroscopic force ends up being applied.
So, if the propeller rotates anti-clockwise as you look at it from the pilot's seat, then the forward pitching movement will apply a forward force to the top of the propeller disc, but due to Precession, the effect of that force is only applied 90 degrees around the plane of rotation so, in that case a forward force pushing to the left side of the rotating disc is the end result, which results in a strong yaw to the right.
To complicate things further, if the yaw is not controlled, then the yaw itself is another force being applied to the gyroscope, in that case a forwards force to the left, which acts 90 degrees around, so applies to the bottom of the disc, wanting to pitch the nose back up and tail back down!
Over-corrections when that all happens, just throws in further forces, so that is why you will often see a new pilot in a tail dragger yawing and pitching around until it eventually gets off the ground, or ends up in a hedge.
So, in this example, smooth stick forward and smooth left rudder are needed as the tail first lifts, unless you want to go off on a gardening expedition into the grass and bushes and stuff on the right!
In summary, be ready with the rudder as the tail lifts, or you will depart the runway to one side, or the other, depending upon the rotation of the propeller.
Hands up all new tail dragging pilots who have done this. Now hands up all who said no, who were not being honest!
Hi Keith,
Thanks very much for the observation and indeed your excellent follow-up post!
Most of what you saw during the takeoff was my own doing actually. I find many taildraggers in the sim still behave sub-optimally, with a number (including the Aeroplane Heaven Spitfire - though it is far from the worst offender) displaying strange ground handling behaviours. One of the best ways I’ve found to mitigate these sorts of effects in the sim, is to keep the tail down on the runway during the takeoff. Generally not realistic of course, but it makes the aircraft much more stable and controllable (there are certain addons where the plane will violently depart out to the left / right and be unrecoverable thereafter). So it does indeed look a bit odd, a Spitfire taking off in such a fashion, but it’s the best way I’ve found of doing things until tailwheel flight modelling on certain addons is improved.
I hope that clarifies things a little. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the clarification. As I am sure you know, I was not in any way criticising you or the video, just the flight dynamics of the simulation. In time they will get the simulation more realistic for tail draggers I am sure!
Thank you Sir for the info👍
Take care
In this case, a particular pleasure! ; )
Beauty of a video, plane and area. Seem to have your compass set wrong though, Caernarfon NW of Snowdonia not SW, and the castle W of the town not S. I’ll take a look at the plane although I have the FI MK IX and love that but a MK I might be a nice addition.
Thanks very much James, I'm really glad you enjoyed the flight!
Haha, fair point; I don't recall whether I set the compass incorrectly (or not at all), but I think I had my mental bearings wrong at any rate XD
The FlyingIron Spit is a far more polished addon overall, but there is just something more majestic about a MK I (somewhat difficult to recommend the addon though, sadly - it just feels a little bit "basic").
Cheers and all the best! : )
long time lover of the channel but im curious as to what software you use to change your voice?
Excellent video
Hello there, which of the two models do you think is better: the Aeroplane Heaven Spirfire mk I or the Flyingiron Spirfire mk IX? Thanks.
Hi Vainsoleint,
The Flying Iron Spitfire is definitely the higher quality product of the two overall. It generally looks better, flies and sounds better and it has more systems depth, basic failures etc. Flying Iron have also put out a number of comprehensive updates over the course of the products lifespan (despite everyone already being happy with the product they had). The AH Spit isn't bad; the MK I is beautiful and I would say that the external model perhaps bests the MK IX, but generally it just isn't up to the same standards and it still has quite a number of issues etc.
I hope that helps a little . Cheers and all the best! : )
Wow imagine this on DCS. I hoped Aeroplane Heaven develop the BF 109 but the Spitfire will do anyway. Nice and impressive video you've done.
What do you mean the DCS Spitfire works completely and is far more realistic in my humble opinion?
@@zorbakaput8537 I gues he means having a Mk1 in DCS.
@@zorbakaput8537 i spoke about the landscape / scenery and a BF 109. ;) Don't know where you read anything about the Spitfire in DCS
@@RonRonsen in all fairness mate, it did sound like you talking about the Spitfire, you didn't mention scenery 😂
@@xjrthirteen Well than i think its a mind / mouth problem. My thoughts where about the impressive scenery in MSFS he flew the Spitfire and the simulation level from DCS it could make it even better. Thats my wow. The rest is another topic.
I found the sound update removed all of the already limited bass to the engine sound, not sure if that's how it should be or if something was wrong with my uodate.
I doubt it’s anything wrong on your end Sleight, I would imagine the sounds would either work or they wouldn’t. I think what you’re describing, is what I was alluding to when I mentioned that “it sounds like I’m hearing the engine through a wall”. The engine doesn’t seem to have much presence, probably due to the lack of bass that you mention. I still think the sounds are an improvement overall, but not drastically so.
All the best : )
I have so enjoyed watching your videos since I discovered your channel earlier today. I've been flying in XPlane11 for the past 2 years although I have been so impressed the MSFS2020. As for the scenery in this video is this what it looks like out of the box or did you have to purchase this scenery separately? Many thanks once again.
Hello Ian. Apologies for the slow reply, I'm just catching up on comments now.
Thanks very much for the kind words, I'm really glad you're enjoying the content! Caernarfon airport was a piece of payware scenery, but otherwise everything you saw here was entirely default. MSFS can be pretty incredible where the scenery is concerned, although some areas look better than others (with this flight being towards the better end of the spectrum).
I hope that clarifies things. I very much enjoy both X-Plane and MSFS, but for this sort of flying, Microsoft's flight simulator is hard to beat ; )
Thanks once again and all the best! : )
Comment for algorithm. Great stuff as always.
Thank you very much sir, much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it : )
Great vid! I agree, the sounds were better but not a complete overhaul (as you mentioned). A separate point - visuals look great - do you use High settings or tailor them slightly?
Thanks very much Rob, glad you enjoyed it!
Yes, its a step in the right direction, but the Spit still has a number of issues (some of which would be simple to fix) and I'm wondering if AH are going to address them at all at this point.
I use the "High End" preset in the sim. I slightly bump up the render distance of the autogen and I have the caching set to "Ultra". I also have motion blur and AI traffic turned off, just to save a few fps. For videos like this, I generally try and choose favourable weather themes and times of the day; lighting makes the biggest difference in terms of how MSFS looks I find (clear skies at midday, the sim often doesn't look that great).
I hope that helps a little? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for the reply. I agree - would be great to see them get it ‘over the Finish line’
Good to know about turning those features off and yes, it’s all about lighting. Thanks again! Cheers, Rutch.
Ahh, I didn’t realise it was you Rutch haha! You’re welcome as always : )
Cheers!
I wonder which one is better to purchase? Aeroplane's spitfire or flying iron's spitfire
FlyingIron’s Spit is quite a bit better overall Piloto. I love the MK I as an aircraft (it’s my favourite MK of Spitfire), but the MK IX in MSFS is so much more polished, has better sounds, systems modelling, texturing internally etc. FlyingIron’s support of their product has also been incredible - multiple huge updates that have really taken their Spit from strength to strength (even though people were very happy with the product on release).
I hope that helps a little? All the best! : )
Excellent showcase for the update. Loved the cinematography !. The lighting and clouds that really reflects a typical U.K. airstrip. Never guaranteed blue skies or sunshine !. To date I cannot make up my mind, FlyingIron or Aeroplane Heaven ?. Any thoughts ?. I always appreciate your very detailed reviews. Your honesty and integrity comes through in all your videos. A good balance of positives and negatives. Many thanks.
buy both, be happy.
FlyingIron is MUCH better, I have them both.
Thanks very much for the kind words I.T Mann - I'm really glad you enjoyed the video!
The Flying Iron Spitfire is definitely the higher quality product of the two overall. It generally looks better, flies and sounds better and it has more systems depth, basic failures etc. Flying Iron have also put out a number of comprehensive updates over the course of the products lifespan (despite everyone already being happy with the product they had). The AH Spit isn't bad; the MK I is beautiful and I would say that the external model perhaps bests the MK IX, but generally it just isn't up to the same standards and it still has quite a number of issues etc.
I hope that helps a little. I can assure it's impartial advice, as I have a big soft spot for the MK I in reality haha.
Thanks once again and all the best! : )
I'm hoping to get this and the p51 for my bday and I'm super excited for it!!
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Well, I do hope you enjoy both of them, SM! Happy Birthday and happy flying (for when the time comes : )
All the best!
Hello, Amazing video, what about your video settings? Thanks
Hi Captain Bones. Thanks very much, I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
At the time of recording, my graphics settings were broadly as such:
- “High End” preset
- Pre-Cache = Ultra
- Terrain and Object visibility sliders set at 125% (sorry, I forget the actual names of them)
- Motion Blur = Off
- Glass Cockpit Refresh = Medium
- AI Traffic = Off
- VSync = On / 60fps
That gives a nice balance between graphical fidelity and performance. I only run at 1080p, hence the decent FPS / smooth performance. The things I’ve turned off / down are known to be famerate hogs. It’s important to note, I also spend a lot of time tweaking the weather / lighting in my videos, which accounts for much of the graphical fidelity you see (as that can make a huge different to how the sim looks overall).
I hope that helps a little! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations amazing, many thanks and good Fly
You’re most welcome! Cheers : )
I enjoy this Mk 1 as well as the FlyingIron MkIX, possibly because the Mk 1 was the type used in the Battle of Britain. A bit of history I suppose. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on the update, progress but as you say maybe a little more needed.
The MK I is my favourite Spit variant (in the real world) without a doubt Peter, as I’m sure is the case for many. It’s a shame the AH version doesn’t quite have the same level of polish as the Flying Iron MK IX. I’m really hoping we’ll see the A2A MK I one of these days; I don’t know if you’ve ever had the pleasure of trying it, but I would go as far as to say it is my favourite sim addon of all time! : )
A nice little step in the right direction for the AH MK I though, let’s hope it continues (though I fear this may now be “it”).
Cheers!
I know X-Plane 12 will probably have the edge in terms of pure flight modeling and whatnot, but I'm sorry, this kind of eye candy goes a LONG way to helping me as a non-pilot look past it. No shame in admitting I'm the casual MSFS was aiming at I suppose, as long as they keep working at it and improving it. I'll never get to see 99% of these places IRL, after all, so this is a good way to get close.
Haha, I’m afraid that’s all far too pragmatic John. I thought we had all agreed long ago, that you aren’t actually allowed to have any fun whilst flight simming!! : P
No, you’re absolutely right of course. It doesn’t look like MSFS is going to be beat in the graphical department any time soon and the sim continues to move (slowly) in the right direction. Personally I can take the graphical hit with X-Plane, because I do enjoy how it flies, but I’m finding less and less reasons to fire up the sim these days. I’m still very much looking forward to seeing what X-Plane 12 has to offer, but it’s already pretty clear from the previews, that it won’t be *this*.
MSFS is unique, in that as you allude to, it is the only sim in which one can actually explore the world and have a genuine adventure.
As always, all the best! : )
How do you change your voice to sound like you're a pilot? :D
Hi Donity,
It’s an effect I add during editing, using a program called Audacity. The effect can’t be created “on the fly” as far as I’m aware, but I’d be happy to outline the details, if you want to use the same effect for recordings etc.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations That's cool! Was just interested! Have a good one
Virtual cockpit is nice, however flying iron have set the bar. P38 and Mk9 spit are superior inmho.
Yes, I would very much agree Noel. I think the external model of the MK I has the Flying Iron Spit beat, but otherwise the MK IX wins on most counts (as you say, FI have really set the bar in many respects).
All the best : )
Where did the sound set come from?
Hi James,
The soundset is included with the package. Aeroplane Heaven updated the soundset some months ago and I was checking it out in this video.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
I can't tell you how much pleasure I get from flying the Spit around the British countryside. I will say this one seems to have a faster roll rate than the Flying Iron version (including the clipped-wing). That said, I think I still prefer the Flying Iron. Do you have a favourite between the two?
Simming doesn't get much better in than that does it Abberjam! ; )
Overall, I have to say that I largely prefer FlyingIron's efforts. The MK IX is a much more polished and immersive product and continues to go from strength to strength. I think Aeroplane Heaven's MK I is a beauty visual effort and the MK I is my favourite MK of Spitfire undoubtedly, but the addon still has a number of issues (including still the sounds) and I would have liked to see a bit more fidelity in the product etc.
Anyway, that was a long-winded way of saying that I like both addons, but the MK IX generally has the MK I beat haha.
Cheers and all the best! : )
I have her too and ok little improvements but not to make it flyable. No sound opening side door and canopy is already a no go not even wanting to start the engine and I did also for testing purposes but still no base or real rumble spitting flames so terrible. Only Flying Iron make the spit awesome. I have all ah planes and they all suffer same bad engines noises that are not loud enough and lack base. Great video .
Thanks Sven, glad you enjoyed the video : )
Generally speaking, I would have to agree with you. I still enjoy the MK I personally and there have been some improvements without a doubt, but there are still a lot of areas of the AH Spit that are lacking. It feels like the aircraft is being tinkered with, but there doesn’t seem to be any impetus to tie up all the loose ends and really elevate the product. FlyingIron on the other hand, have radically overhauled their product on a number of occasions; they clearly want the MK IX to be the best it can be and it’s all the more impressive, since everybody has been happy with their Spit, almost since it’s release.
Cheers and all the best!
I lost it when you screamed out "clear prop" LOL
I just pictured your wife freaking out in the living room haha
Not an ITBS video without it. There would be riots in the comment section if he omitted the shout in a prop aircraft video.
Haha, it is a bit of a running joke at this point Cpt Airwolf - much to my wife’s disdain I have no doubt! XD
Cheers and all the best : )
i haven't any e-mail about update. is it marketplace update? i get last update around month ago 24 june. just does check
Hi Einherz,
I got the update through Orbx. I suspect that if you haven’t got it yet, the Marketplace update may be lagging a little bit behind (as usual). That being said, I downloaded the update a little while back, so that may be the one you’re referring to (I downloaded it about 2 weeks ago, so that sounds about right vs your date).
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations opposite situation:) i get one from ah service. so i thought you are take it from marketplace, even can not imagine orbx update it after 3 weeks. this is strange, i have some orbx stuff. couple a days and they give the thing... ah. now i read all the text lol. two weeks it's ok. i get it from 24jun so in my crazy mind it's new one, that i didn't get, or you took it from marketplace, that's can push update after month off release:)
I hoped to enjoy AH products, but after getting burned hard with the Electra, i guess i won't be giving another chance at their products.
Hi Isidro,
Yes, unfortunately Aeroplane Heaven do sometimes have a bit of a habit of shooting themselves in the foot. They obviously have some talent and they make the type of aircraft that I and I think many others enjoy, but there are often too many loose ends left on release. I never tried the Electra myself, but I gather it had quite a long list of issues when it launched and I know it upset a lot of customers. A shame. . .
Cheers and all the best : )
Watching this makes me hope that A2A bring their Spitfire to MSFS as their sound set is vastly superior to this poor offering from AH.
Likewise IJ! As I mentioned in my other comment, there's no other aircraft I would wish to see in the sim more, than the A2A Spitfire! : D
As a side note This is something some of you may be interested in a series by the RAF.
th-cam.com/video/aPetW8IKfVk/w-d-xo.html
'Johnnie' Johnson a quintessential British fighter pilot of WW11. Made as part
of a series at the RAF collage around the 1970-1990
Ah thanks very much indeed Paul! I shall definitely have to give that a watch when I get the chance : )
Very much appreciated. All the best!
That exterior sound really doesn't sound too good, not really like proper Merlin at all!
when you say merlin engine i keep thinking about the merlin rocket engine
Haha, funny that Sesgow; just goes to show how the world evolves and moves on I suppose. . . For me there will only ever be one *true* Merlin engine though ; )
All the best! : )
Idling sounds fantastic, but takeoff and cruise still sound like it was recorded 2 km away with a 20 year old microphone. And interior engine sound is still way-off. Disappointing :/
Hi James,
Haha, it’s funny and just goes to prove how differently we all hear sounds (whether that’s related to hardware, or our own ears); I wasn’t a fan of the idling sounds, but quite liked the cruise sounds XD
I’ll happily admit I’m no audiophile though. I think I like the cruise sounds because you can hear a Spit “in there”, but I agree that there is very much a “flyby from a distance” sort of vibe to it.
Either way, for sure the new sounds are not raising the bar. . .
All the best! : )
N wales, not mining, quarrying. To be a pedant 😂
Haha, apologies sir! I’ve obviously mixed up my Welsh hiking adventures somewhere along the way then XD
I remember hiking somewhere in Wales and you could walk more than 50m without coming across another abandoned mineshaft entrance etc (I found it absolutely fascinating). I can’t remember where that would have been then, but it was a thoroughly enjoyable few days at any rate!
All the best : )
Awesome vid ;). What sort of douche b signs off on getting two massive wind turbines installed on or around an active airfield? This is why humanity is doomed.
Thanks very much Ikova, glad you enjoyed it!
Haha! I did think rather the same myself, but I figured there must be some logic to their otherwise bizarre decision. It does rather seem to be inviting an accident though - I’m certainly surprised it was given the go-ahead!
Cheers and all the best : )