Imagine crying because someone called you racist and not because you did something racist. Then, while crying about how you don't like how your actions reflect on you, you say another racist comment?? For someone who infantalizes OP, that woman sure seems like the child.
and she HAD to be lying to somehow look better. like op said, that woman is british. the uk has really good indian food AND that woman has a bunch of indian friends. absolutely insane comment
She also sounds like a bad cook. Anybody that knows basic cooking, knows that you must always taste the food before adding random stuff to it. Oh and she's def a dumbass to think all Indian food is brown
As a mixed American, can’t tell you how many times this has happened to me! I live in the uk and the hate they have for Megan Markel is insane. No one can tell me a single bad thing she’s done other than “she’s sort of mean” (though no one is able to tell me a specific example of her “being mean”). Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the royal family, but the racism she faces on a daily basis is absurd
@@KindredKaye They literally showed a picture of a monkey when announcing the birth of her baby. Europe is a level of racist that I think might surpass the US in a lot of ways.
I'm greek and the name in the first story sounds like they're trying to make fun of the names. It also sounds incredibly American in pronunciation or like it's a brand. If you're inspired by something why not keep it intact and it would still be unique and beautiful. Like many other comments have pointed out they can use two names which is quite common in Greece as well. Quite a selfish decision while trying to stand out
indeed, they could have just gone with nyx irene or irene nyx; no need to smash the names together to sound like a medication for dealing with night terrors. just to add, i'm also greek, and i'm pretty sure most greek parents would just give their kids a middle name or two instead of mashing together names into one single first name. my evidence? well, me and my siblings all were given a middle name, and my youngest sibling even has two! there was no need to name her something like Elisasuemary (example name, not what any of her names are) when they could have just named her Elisa Sue Mary, you know?
First story: op and husband are in the wrong. Names are important. It's not just about bullying and frustration, but literal documents. With a name like that, their daughter is likely to get turned away for any type of application whether it be job or house loan seeing as it will be seen as a joke (although they arent supposed to do that). You name your child as a future adult. If you want to name something unconventionally, get a pet. There's also a difference between a cultural name and a name your parents came up with because they wanted to be quirky. Like if they wanted both Nyx and irina they should've done one as the first name and the other as a middle name.
First thing I thought of lmao. They can do whatever they want, the Aunt overstepped in her delivery but she's not entirely wrong - the kid is definitely going to get teased. My name was "unique" to a lot of people. They should mind their own business but doesn't take away from what's most likely to happen.
Kids do NOT care what another child's name is. The shtty adults who TEACH these kids to be shtty mean to other children over names, are. Adults need to do fkn better at raising their OWN sht bred children. Worry about making them respectable instead of little bully axx tards who will end up picking the wrong one and then you'll be in some hot water as a sht parent, you are. 🤡💀🖕🏽
Disagree on the name thing. My name is unique. It's a combination of names as well. No one can pronounce it, and it takes me at least two tries to get them to spell it right. I hate it. My mother LOVES it. To be fair, everyone compliments it once they get it. However, I hate the hassle of it. I'm almost _certain_ that I have not been considered for job opportunities because of my name (an unfortunate reality for people with non-standard white names). I'm changing it real soon. It's a difficult thing to do to change it. I have to list everywhere I have to change it when it's done, go through the process of legally changing it, pay for it, then update my documents, and call everyone that has the old name on record...It's not fun. Stop doing this to your children, people. Also, Nyxeryn sounds like a cold sore cream.
As much as I love greek mythology and the names, I do agree Nyxem is ridiculous. They couldve made the second part her middle name. Nyx is unique and not that bad.
Story 1: If OP and their partner liked the names Irena and Nyx, why didn´t they just name the child Irena Nyx? Why make up a whole new name, when middlenames are a thing?
I was wondering this, too. It suggests there might be a whole other thing happening with the middle name. Even if kids don't tease (and they will) their name will end up shortened to just Nyx or Irinia
Exactly! My poor coworker is named Chastopher because his parents couldn’t decide between Charles and Christopher so they mashed them together. Also had a friend whose full name was Tessabelle because her parents couldn’t decide between Tess and Isabelle. MIDDLE NAMES EXIST PARENTS!
i do love that the boys are going to bat for an unusual name but I'm with Josh on this one. I think it's different than a cultural name. Nyxirene is Renesmee levels of awful. It's giving this is my long haired cat Nyxirene the Fluffy or something or a medication. Nyx Irene or Irene Nyx would be fine as first and middle names. I think the best advice I've seen from people is to use that name as your own for a week: coffee orders, delivery, uber, anywhere your name is called out and like actually live it to see what your kid might deal with on a daily basis. It usually leads to a reconsideration or a tweaking of the name. The world needs to be kinder AND we live in the current reality that names like this non-cultural one aren't going to receive good reception out in practice.
Also it's actually the complete opposite of a cultural name since it seems like the parents aren't really Greek and just like mythology and literature in general. A reddit comment pointed out that "Irina" isn't the correct Greek word for peace, which is actually "Irini". It kinda leans more towards what Sean said about white folks naming their kid something asian sounding. It's giving butchering someone else's language for an aesthetically pleasing yet impractical name.
16:53 OMG: "We'll talk about it later" Later: "Can't you just drop it. You're making me feel bad for the rude thing that was done to you." So, no, to the talking about it later. He and his friends aren't good people, she needs to leave.
I think its a problem when parents forget that they dont own their children and dont consoder the fact that their daughter is a human who will have upwards of 50 years by themselves where they have to live with spelling and prononucing their name every single day. Shes just gonna change it or go by something else when she's older. It's a fundamentally selfish decision
Yeah and even if the kid could change their name or go by a nickname they're still stuck with a truly awful name. Lol I'm sorry but that's a bad name. Nyx Irene is leagues better.
As a Brit, I agree with you about Texan BBQ, but for a Brit to not know Indian food is wild. Due to our long colonisation of India and the number of people that settled here through the centuries, you have to be really ignorant to not know about the range of Indian foods!
Choosing a name for a child is a huge responsibility. When considering names for our children, my husband and I decided that either of us could veto any names we didn't like in initially narrowing down ideas. When we found some we both agreed on, we tried to think of things that could cause issues. We looked at initials, possible nicknames, things that rhymed with the names and such. We thought about kids wanting novelty items with their name on it, teachers taking roll, kids learning to spell/write their name, job searching as adults and anything else we could think of with names we considered. With female names, we considered initials and last name potentially changing with marriage. We wanted names that weren't so common that there was a high likelihood of multiple children in their classes with the same first name in school. When we narrowed down our choices to favorites, we shared with our close family and friends and considered their reactions. With our second child, we asked our oldest, then a toddler, to say the names we were considering for their sibling. We tried out our top contenders in writing and verbally. It didn't really take long for us to make our final choices. Our kids are now adults. Hopefully, our process of choosing their names has served them well. It's a big responsibility we tried to put a lot of thought into.
Story 5: there's an update. He found out throught Joe's instagram that he and op's girlfriend were f*cking behind his back and all their friends at the party knew and were laughing at him behind his back. Op will be fine, and Joe and his ex will likely cheat on eachother.
@@meep5667 Op said that she likely was upset that he broke up with her because she's the one who breaksup, she should've been the one leaving him and not other wiser (her ego was hurt)
@@KindredKaye they weren't calling OP insecure, they were highlighting that the ex was trying to manipulate OP for the correct assumption that she was being inappropriate.
the uk has really good indian food, actually 😭😭 to think this british woman-whos probably had a bunch of indian dishes from both herself, her friends, and restaurants-thinks all indian food is brown is crazy
y'all there's an update (18 days ago) for 46:29 and it is WILD 😭 so SPOILERS in case you don't want to know yet. Here's my best summary of it. So dude was doing investigation on both their instagrams. OP found out that after Anne got dropped off, Joe made an Instagram post about potentially doing a cover for Scotty Doesn't Know by Lustra. (Comments were making fun of OP and saying "he's going to hell", so L comments wtf) And get this y'all... few days later, Joe posted a picture of Anne sitting on his lap. Based on the background, it was not even taken at the afterparty, but at the party that OP went to. OP mentioned he was depressed (and still) not about Anne, but the fact that literally nobody from the party was willing to give him a heads up. (Despite them showing up together and obviously are dating!!) In the end, he was just, i guess confused and bummed on why Anne kept being with him in the first place, and on top of that Anne getting upset about him breaking up with her and kicking her out. So, OP was thinking she wanted to be the one to dump him as a power move or having a thrill screwing around behind his back. Anyways, i feel bad for OP for what he went through, and hopefully he takes good care of himself. (or bags a better baddie 😤) But that was all so byyeeee :) See you next video 💖
With the name, the pushback from the family is the reception that kid is going to get anywhere they go. Nyx would have already been an incredibly unique name and using one for the first name and the other for the middle name would have let them use both. And if the kid does end up disliking it or wanting to change it just accept that. But the best advice on if you're considering giving a "unique" name to your potential kid: use that name yourself for a week. Like go to a coffee shop or make a reservation under that name. You'll get an idea if its a burdonsome name.
Story 2: for the dad that said op should have let mom stay at the reception: Why didn’t you let her stay married to you? You want her, you take her back Lmao
About the first story, this story hits close for me because I ended up legally changing my name due to people never being able to spell it, say it, and made fun of me for it and honestly having a unique name sometimes sucks whenever you can never find your name on a keychain. I'm white so I don't have an ethnically unique name but just a bad name. That kid will most definitely feel frustrated with everything I said before
If someone adds items after an item is cooked (on own plate) that’s fine. Adjusting while cooking? Hell no. That is hella rude. Edit: I’m 5’ tall. I’ll never be the bigger person😂
Bully story: I'm going with NTA. Getting a vulnerable person home safely is the priority. Nicole is a terrible person, but I still wouldn't wish what could have possibly happened on her. There's a missing 20 year-old woman from Georgia who was, apparently, last seen getting into an Uber. So getting someone a car isn't a guarantee of safety.
Yea, I get why the girlfriend is upset because it’s someone she didn’t like (rightfully), but still the top priority is getting a person home safe. She’s drunk, her phone is dead, and she can barely see without her glasses, she’s the definition of vulnerable. OP did the right things
Since the bully seemed to be lucid enough to ask for help, as OP, I would've taken the opportunity to demand an apology for my gf before helping, regardless of how insincere it might be. It's probably the only opportunity to call out the bullying in a way that wouldn't easily be ignored without consequences. If the bully apologizes, then I'd probably do what OP ended up doing. If not, the most I'd do is call someone to deal with it, and leave from there.
That name sounds like a sleeping pill brand. They're going to get teased a little, maybe, but Nyx is a cool nickname. It's what the super smart hacker girl would be called in a spy thriller or detective series.
Admitting you would let somebody potentially get assaulted is just messes up AF. Its a reality for most women that in the state she is in, she would get abused. OP did the right thing and his GF should get therapy to work on her trauma. Letting somebody in a dangerous situation is disgusting.
Hear me out. 50-50% odds of someone liking the bizarre name they were given at birth is still an incredibly low percentage given that a name is forever. Unless, of course, you go through the tedious process of changing it. Time is money. The actual odds of someone liking a bizarre name their parents gave them is probably closer to 25%. Knowing people who like their odd names is not evidence that giving odd names is a good decision. My mother gave me a Russian name (we're American) from a spy novel she read during pregnancy. It's a very common name in another part of the world, but it made my life as a child more difficult. Just because kids should learn how to contend with bullies doesn't make it acceptable to give them a reason to be bullied. Is it your privilege to name your child what you want? Yes, but that doesn't make it "right" to handicap them. Making your child's name an accessory to your life by making it a reflection of something you love isn't a kindness you're doing for them. You're making them repeatedly explain why they have such an odd name (which will require explaining who their parents are and why they thought this name was a good idea for the rest of their lives). It's selfish. Also, "Nix" is a type of head lice shampoo. Her name sounds like a medicine. Nyx+Listerine. Yikes. 😬 I was bullied for a Russian name. At least it wasn't a lice shampoo.
I think the thing that annoyed me the worst about the Indian dessert is she didn't even taste it before dumping of cinnamon on there. This dish that she'd never had before and she altered it by color? What? Cinnamon isn't just unflavored food coloring. This is just malicious because it wasn't about not liking the dish, it was about not liking OP. For the babysitting guy, seriously... before he even started digging the hole deeper for himself... sir, it's no wonder you're not making crazy bank out there. You obviously lack key cognitive skills. Either it's difficult or it's not. Make up your mind. If parenting your children on your own is easy, it shouldn't kill you do it for one weekend. If parenting your children on your own is soooo hard, your wife deserves a vacation and your kids deserve a better father because no one fondly remembers their childhood thinking, "I had the best dad! Yeah , he was a scumbag who cheated on my mom, but he did pay the rent! I mean, yeah, with her help, but ya know..."
Story 5: In every relationship I have entered, I always expect my partner to behave similar to me. At no point, will I put myself in a situation where my partner’s mind can wander and feel unease. I’m not going anywhere alone with a guy who is obviously trying to separate me from my partner , so I would expect the same vice versa. It’s not about having to control your partner, but having your own self control, self respect, and respect for your relationship.
Bro said: I make close to six figures. So five figures .. which is like what insurance adjusters make working 37.5 hours a week. He works more hours - duh. You said she works part-time. May she kick him to the curb.
For the first story, I'm torn. As someone with a weird name, I literally had to explain my name and it's pronunciation several times a day for the first 20 years of my life. Since I was about 12, I stopped going by that name so I really only had to explain it to teachers and ask them not to call that name out loud. I got bullied nonstop about it well into my 20s. Now to say, I don't hate my name. I love having a unique name but it's also been a major handicap. People don't take me seriously. I get crazy looks in interviews and just the anxiety of knowing I'm going to have to explain my name again to strangers makes socializing hard. I either have to lie about my name or just tell them I just go by Jami and hope and beg they don't try to interrogate me for my full name. You'd be surprised how many people think it's cute and funny to constantly harass someone for information they don't want to give out or how many people take it personally that you don't want to tell them or be called that. On the flip side, having a unique name should be something that people should just have and it not be a huge deal. I wish it was normal for people to be like oh that's cool and move on but sadly it's not.
3rd Story- Honestly I bet the ex only agreed to it to be manipulative. When those types lose the person they are hurting it bothers them to no end. Even if they are romantically over them, given the chance to mess something up for them, they absolutely will.
With the bully story, I’m gonna have to disagree with you guys on this one. Op is NTA, as a woman and as someone who was horribly bullied all the way to college. One of my bullies even burned me, but I would never leave them in a dangerous situation like that and would never want to see them on the news saying they were assaulted and murdered, that happens just way too much. Especially knowing that they could have been safe if I had done something. I’m all about being petty and fuck being the bigger person but that doesn’t even apply to other peoples safety. Op did the decent human thing.
The last story he’s NTA and I get why Hannah feels that way. I’ve been bullied before. But there is no way I could leave someone like that. Even my bully. I get getting an Uber and not riding. But I want to throw out there that women get assaulted in Uber or Lyft. As a woman, especially someone drunk and can’t see she’s especially vulnerable.
Thank you, they honestly made me so mad with that one. Upsetting my partner for a moment is still better than risking another woman getting assaulted?? No matter if its my bully or not, they should still get home unharmed.
Story 1: NTH I think we need a new perspective. This conversation can be interchanged from name to hair. Do you know how much growing up I heard oh you need to perm your hair, you will never get a job with your hair looking like that. Then you hear the same points being made. “No we shouldn’t have to straighten our hair to get opportunities but it’s just the way society is so assimilate”. Nothing changed until people chose to stop living their life based on what others find satisfactory. Names do have meaning which is why the meaning should be important to the immediate family. My name is unique and I’m a person of color. My whole life adults made fun of my name particularly white ones. It made me feel bad to have a unique name but I’ve always loved it. I ended up learning my name is Arabic and means affectionate. I am not an Arab woman but I found this to be so cool.
With story 1 i think parents need to remember that you’re not just naming a baby. That baby will eventually be a child, a teen, an adult and then an old person, so unless they change it themselves, they have that name for life. So keep that in mind when naming a child. My name is the standard spelling of my name and even THAT gets misspelled and mispronounced all the time
Weird names struggle with more than just social acceptance. Especially if they're long or unconventionally spelt. First hurdle for a child is that it makes learning how to write your name a little more difficult, especially when the pronunciation doesn't match up with what they learn about the alphabet. After that, it's a constant nightmare of having to relay your name to other people in any official capacity. You spend twice as long clarifying your name compared to those with conventional names, and even then you run the risk of people getting it wrong. In the context of official documentation, this could be disastrous or at the very least exhausting. Having special unique names doesn't have to be a troublesome thing, just don't go out of your way to make it more technically difficult to relay and remember. That said, when it comes to social problems, most name bullying will come from kids. And it won't matter how accepting we become as a society of names from different cultures and places. Cultural/ethnic names can easily fly under the radar in school once parents aren't actively training their kids to be racist or xenophobic. The problem is, kids come up with their own ways of making fun of a person based on nonsense. If you're concerned about your kids getting crap in school, just avoid names that sound too similar to certain objects that kids are likely to draw obvious comparisons to, or long names that sound like magical incantations. There are a lot of "normal white" names that you will get destroyed for in school too.
Story 1: if I'm going by my kids and their friends, they are much more forgiving and accepting than my generation was. The name is definitely different and in my opinion sounds like a medication, but I don't know that it's going to be that much of a problem for the child.
Naming children is hard. We all want cool unique names now...which isn't necessarily an issue. However, as someone with a "unique" name (it's not really, just not common in the U.S.) I know what it's like to have people not know how to pronounce my name and having to spell my name ALL THE TIME. I do love my name, as it's not a weird made up name but I do have issue with people trying to be trendy and creating god awful names these children, who will eventually become adults, are burdened with.
Yeah, I have a name which has one pronouncing in my mother tongue (more typically masculine, but still used for girls as well) and then it is more commonly recognised as gender neutral in the English pronouncing. I typically prefer the pronunciation of my mother tongue (I am feminine presenting) but most people assume I use the English pronouncing because of the "that is typically male". At this point I am tired to correct people, so I go by both. When someone says my name they usually say it in English, but when I present myself I say it in my native language.
In the "babysitting" father story, it boils my blood with how it comes across as if he views him making almost 6 figures as an indicator of how hard he works. Someone could put in 60 hours a week and end up struggling to make ends meet, while our billionaires don't have to lift a finger to earn what most average Americans will earn throughout their lifetime. Salary is not an indicator of how hard you work or your inherent value as a person. And that's not even including his neglect of his wife and kids.
Story 1 : that child is gonna be bullied tho I understand that you can name your child whatever you want but I don't think they are considering the child feelings
I don't love the OP telling the TH-cam that Anne's not going to go to his party, but the fact that she left and didn't tell him, and she never texted him and arrived home at 5…
1st story: This is ridiculous. My twins were born in 1993 and are indigenous and have indigenous names. If people can't pronounce them or spell them, that's on them. My children do not dislike their names and have pride in their culture. Strangers don't know if it's cultural or not and it's only one demographic that bullies children. Even when the kids were young, they would get a little angry but simply repeat and not back down from how people were try to tease them. Eff people that don't like it.
It really doesn't matter what you name your child, people will have something to say about it. I named my daughter Charlotte with 2 middle names, she has plenty if names and nicknames that she can choose. My in laws hated the name and went on about how ugly it was, it was too long, etc. Then the princess Charlotte was born and suddenly its a beautiful name 🙄 mind you, in their culture long names are common, their sister has 3 names too. And my nieces have "unique" not so pretty names 🙃
Babies aren’t accessories!!!!! Parents need to keep in mind that their little baby is going to be an adult one day, you can’t name them like a kahoot username 😭😭
I think with name thing, we are getting there. I’ve met two bears, one willow, one holiday and one Asia. So I just think we as a society is starting to be more open about kid names. That being said I saw a tiktok about a lady who had a baby with big blue grey eyes and named her sardine. I personally understand it but I’ve drawn sardines and appreciated how pretty the colour of sardines are. But I also understand ppl are more likely to be ah to the kid even though the parent made the decision.
as someone who’s been bullied throughout their life… bullies rarely if ever atone. The Axe forgets but the tree remembers. While the decent thing was to escort the bully home, it comes with knowing that this won’t impact them and they won’t suddenly have a change of heart.
11:23 my name is Johnie (“Johnny”), I’m a female.. I’m 28 and spent my whole life trying to go by my middle name or trying to convince my parents to change my name. I do think it’s helped me in the job world as for getting interviews and stuff, but I will forever hate my mom for giving me a “unique name” 🥴
First story: The name is great and people need to learn to keep their opinions to themselves. Like, how can you sit there saying "oh poor kid, they're gonna get bullied" while simultaneously making fun of the name yourselves? Why add to the bullying instead of showing kids with any ounce of uniqueness (name, personality, etc.) That it's not only okay to be different, but a good thing and that our differences should be celebrated? As someone with just a less common name than anyone I grew up around (being "Thea" with additional uniqueness in the rest of my name, however I have no interest in sharing my full name so blatantly on the internet. But My middle name is my mother'sname, which was also a unique combination of her 2 grandmother's names, and my last name is very long and hyphenated) but also being someone with different interests and personal style than the people around me, of course bullying happened, for all of it, but I don't blame my parents, or hate my name for it. I hate the actions of my bullies and the inactions of the teachers and other adults around me and them, who's jobs it should have been to educate them on why their actions were not okay and shouldn't be tolerated. People still rarely get my name right, but Ive learned not to care how it's pronounced, especially when its obviously not out of malice and I'm honestly terrible at remembering names anyway, so I'm bound to mess up a few times too, even with the most common names-we're all human. Also, I've had plenty of friends with overly common names who also got bullied, using their names and everything else within reach, as well as friends with common names who just absolutely hate their names because they feel like it doesn't suit them. A unique name does not damn the child to a life of misery, being surrounded by bullies and a lack of a support system will though. If the kid doesn't feel that the name suits them, it is their right to be able to go change it legally as an adult, but even then, the parents were not inherently wrong for choosing it. Besides, these kinds of stories are a prime example of why many people choose to keep their baby name choices to themselves prior to birth, because everyone else wants to think their opinion matters or that they should get a say.
2 points about the names. 1) I remember when Nevaeh was a weird out there name that teen moms picked for the meaning. Now it's a lot more normal. The whole thing with names is that they're all made up. Kids make fun of names that are culturally different or just made up. It takes time and effort to change culture and laying down won't and going with the norm won't do that. It used to be very common for people to mash up names or pick a random word from the Bible and go with that just in America. The issue is very recent and very Eurocentric. 2) I'm reminded of Dr. Marijuana Pepsi. She came into fame for that outlandish name. But you can see the effect of her success on cultural names. Before you try to say OP's chosen baby name isn't cultural, yeah not with that attitude if we're going to be so puritanical about what a normal name is.
I have a feeling that the Dish story was rasmalai/roshmalai which is a milk based dish. Prominent flavor profile is milk, cardamom, and pistachio, some people use saffron too. Cinnamon is NOT a spice that would be commonly used in south asian desserts, its used more in savory dishes more so for its aromatic qualities.
My son is 13. He goes to school with lots of unique names and says literally no one makes fun of names anymore. They may have in our day, but he and I have personally never witnessed it with the younger generation.
1st story - The issue is that this isn't a "unique" name -- this is a MADE UP name. It'd be different if the name had cultural significance or was totally regular in non-english areas. This is a name thats never been spoken in the history of Never Ever. THATS why their the asshole -- this name Will be prime bullying material. There's no "Stop being racist" or "Stop making fun of them for their culture" to defend them in this scenario -- this is just a weird name given to a baby because the parents liked mythology and couldn't pick between 2 words.
26:08 right here is where Ellie tried to make herself the control victim! 26:36 and Ellie wouldn’t know because OP spent that time getting the recipe right and made it a few times in those 3 days.
23:18 that explains absolutely nothing! The UK has so much Indian food! Ellie should know better being from the UK, which is _literally_ why OP mentioned it! Sean’s whole rant is so unnecessary!
combining names always reminds me of twilight. "You nicknamed my daughter after the lochness monster!?" but i agree with one quirky name and one normal name
I'm British, and I think the point about the UK in story 2 is more rooted in the fact that Indian food is pretty ingrained into the culture here due to (albeit less-than-savoury) historical events, with a lot of the white people curries like chicken tikka masala being invented in the UK. Nowadays, due to our large Indian and Pakistani communities, it's rare to not find pretty great authentic Indian restaurants in most cities and Indian food is prevalent in a similar way to Hispanic food in the US. Saying that, I'm not defending the rest of our bland af food, but I don't believe that was the point being made by the OP.
Story 1: Okey, first up I need to say that I am Greek, so I have that perspective here. The OP is an idiot and I felt kinship for the aunt's reaction. Also I bet the OP isn't a fan of mythology, she probably just played Hades and thought some of the names were cool. If I sound like I'm harsh, it is because I'm offended by how some of you reacted to this story. (Not offended enough to stop loving you guys or upvoting this video, but still offended.) Sean mentioned at the start that if it is two white people giving their child a weird name from another culture it would be wrong, but because it is a Greek name it is fine? Come on man, you're better than this. Personally I don't care much about this aspect, but it did feel like a double standard. I would not mind if the OP called her Irene. Nyx isn't even a Greek name, it is the name of a specific relatively obscure Greek goddess. I'm most dissapointed in John's take who seems to think it is fine for parents to express how special they are by making their kids life harder. He is right that this isn't something we should accept and fight against, but you shouldn't force your activism onto your kids. I have a friend who changed her name to "wolf" when she turned 18. That's cool. She decided she wanted to stand out like that, and I support her in that decision. They are making their child's life more difficult, just to feel special. Not even to honor their culture, just to be special. Story 6: John is having a bad day clearly. If I had a friend, who wanted me to abandon someone who is clearly in danger, I would stop having that friend. I say that as someone who believes in "Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies." Josh and Sean had good suggestions on how to deal with this that would have been better. But I'm still happy he did something, even if that wasn't the best solution.
Story 1: They're setting that kid up to be spelling her name to everyone until they're 18, when they change it to Mary. Irene Nix would be a totally great name. My rule is that if your kid becomes a judge, and they're walking into court, when their name is announced, people don't burst out laughing or going WTF?
For whatever reason, having kids launches you into the judge-o-sphere. People start judging you the second that kid is born and that's why I can't be bothered with judging names.
First story: If you really want to make weird creative names, give it to a character in a GAME, not a real person! A pet, maybe! We don't need more Renesmee level "Tragedeigh"s. Fourth story (the title one) Babysitting? They're YOUR kids, dude! The word. Is PARENTING! Also, minus a whole bunch of more points for calling his wife "whiny"...when HE'S that!
Unfortunately there are loads of stories where taxi drivers (or people pretending to be, both are true) take advantage of people (most commonly women) in vulnerable situations. I guess they depends on where they are, but zibwould never send a girl in that state home alone in a taxi, not even my worst bully (and they took pictures of me after PE).
59:30 NTA. shes drunk and blind. she could be SAd. no matter how horrible she was to the gf, she doesn’t deserve getting SAd. he could have handled it better to not expose the gf to her bully like by getting her a different taxi or telling someone working at the bar or something. 1:01:50 i don’t like how this dude keeps saying “too bad” and shit like that when the other man is telling him she could be assaulted.
They aren't the a**hole for being offended, but they really should have expected this reaction so such a.........weird name. I mean Nyxirene sounds like some sort of off brand of Listerene mouth wash or Lysol cleaning products, i can already hear kids making fun of her for it. Nyx and Irene on there own is fine.
Story 1: in the end, i think the point should really be, why are we allowing people to be shamed for having a different or unconventional name? Why can't we exist in a world where everyone just accepts it? All names are made up, and they aren't wrong that we are prescribing to a social construct created and upheld by a western white majority. Why do we keep upholding it? Why do we keep going back to, "they'll be bullied" like its an acceptable thing to allow, should we not teach children to be kind and accepting? Names are important, yes, i will not deny, but they are also inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Who cares if your lawyer is named Nyxiryn? Who cares if your boss is named Nyxriyn? Who cares if my child's best friend is named Nyxiryn? It doesn't. Unless the name is offensive it shouldn't matter. Your name shouldn't be the deciding factor for anything of major importance outside of the name being chosen. *steps off a soapbox* ty for coming to my ted talk (:
This! I’ve known a few people to go through a legal first name change process for numerous valid reasons. If it doesn’t fit, it’s okay to change! It’s okay to have it! It’s okay to exist with it! We shouldn’t just say “yeah don’t do that. I know for a fact that the kid will hate it and get bullied for it”. Okay and?! That’s not the kids or the parent’s fault.
If your friends call your (younger) partner a child, its not on your partner to act older than their age. Its on you to stop dating people your peers consider children.
55:33 There may have not been any physical cheating but this definitely sounded like emotional cheating. It wasn't a normal interaction between friends, it was a man making a move on a woman who was flattered and went along with it
EHHH op isnt the ahole forr helping nicole he is for downplaying the bullying. no matter how much someone bullied me i seriously don't think I would leave them blind and drunk and alone w/ dead phone. Especially as someone who has been assualted, I wouldn't wish it on even my worst enemy and ik the guilt would eat at me & id rather have 30 mins of being uncomfy riding with my bully than guilt if something did happen to them. sure you could stick them in an uber alone but there are predatory uber drivers out there better to make sure they get home safe and potentially never have to see them again then potentially seeing their name on the news or a missing persons/young lady murdered article the "fuck that" about nicole being kidnapped may have been a joke but she couldve been seriously harmed thats not something to take lightly. i would want someone who maybe didnt like me to help me in nicole's shoes and make sure i got home safe
If someone's added cinnamon in what I presume is rasgulla, I'm not touching that. Don't randomly add stuff to dishes you don't recognize from another culture. If you need to add color in a dish like that you add saffron.
If my partner helped the person who tortured me home whilst they were still calling me the names to my face that night, I'd be pissed off. And i would strongly advise he rethinks the actions hes about to make or i may have to rethink a few things myself.
idk i think a normal person wouldn't leave a woman alone drunk at night who is unable to rlly see anything clearly who also has a dead phone with how likely it is she would be victimized
Weddings are not a family party; they are a celebration of the unity of two people. Like Sean said, why would dude's mom want to be there anyway when she's not down with the coupledom? If she (or anyone) is not there to support me and my relationship, I'm tossing her! 👋 Bye! ...🖕
I was bullied for Elizabeth. Kids are gonna be mean the name doesn't do anything. It's a lovely name. My inlaws hated my youngest children's names, and we laughed it off. (Tatsu and Alushka) At the end of the day, they can change their name when they are older if they feel it's that bad.
I do hope you know how expensive name changes are, though. Not saying your names are bad, I find them quite nice actually! I just don’t think people, esp parents, understand how expensive that is if your kid doesnt like their name even if its just the first one🥲
"I dont want to babysit my own kids so she can be lazy."
"The divorce came out of nowhere."
Imagine crying because someone called you racist and not because you did something racist. Then, while crying about how you don't like how your actions reflect on you, you say another racist comment?? For someone who infantalizes OP, that woman sure seems like the child.
and she HAD to be lying to somehow look better. like op said, that woman is british. the uk has really good indian food AND that woman has a bunch of indian friends. absolutely insane comment
She also sounds like a bad cook. Anybody that knows basic cooking, knows that you must always taste the food before adding random stuff to it. Oh and she's def a dumbass to think all Indian food is brown
As a mixed American, can’t tell you how many times this has happened to me! I live in the uk and the hate they have for Megan Markel is insane. No one can tell me a single bad thing she’s done other than “she’s sort of mean” (though no one is able to tell me a specific example of her “being mean”). Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the royal family, but the racism she faces on a daily basis is absurd
@@kaitlynmorgan4613yes! If anything, wouldn’t Indian food be orange or red? Or even turmeric colored? I can’t think of a single brown Indian dish
@@KindredKaye They literally showed a picture of a monkey when announcing the birth of her baby. Europe is a level of racist that I think might surpass the US in a lot of ways.
I'm greek and the name in the first story sounds like they're trying to make fun of the names. It also sounds incredibly American in pronunciation or like it's a brand. If you're inspired by something why not keep it intact and it would still be unique and beautiful. Like many other comments have pointed out they can use two names which is quite common in Greece as well. Quite a selfish decision while trying to stand out
Honestly I am all for mythology, love reading books about it , but the mix of this two names sounds like pill prescription
indeed, they could have just gone with nyx irene or irene nyx; no need to smash the names together to sound like a medication for dealing with night terrors.
just to add, i'm also greek, and i'm pretty sure most greek parents would just give their kids a middle name or two instead of mashing together names into one single first name. my evidence? well, me and my siblings all were given a middle name, and my youngest sibling even has two! there was no need to name her something like Elisasuemary (example name, not what any of her names are) when they could have just named her Elisa Sue Mary, you know?
Nyx Irene by itself is honestly fine. Nyx is a unique enough name where it's odd but not bad.
First story: op and husband are in the wrong. Names are important. It's not just about bullying and frustration, but literal documents. With a name like that, their daughter is likely to get turned away for any type of application whether it be job or house loan seeing as it will be seen as a joke (although they arent supposed to do that). You name your child as a future adult. If you want to name something unconventionally, get a pet. There's also a difference between a cultural name and a name your parents came up with because they wanted to be quirky. Like if they wanted both Nyx and irina they should've done one as the first name and the other as a middle name.
Story 1: literally everyone will call that child Listerine
"Ask your doctor about Nyxirin."
First thing I thought of lmao. They can do whatever they want, the Aunt overstepped in her delivery but she's not entirely wrong - the kid is definitely going to get teased. My name was "unique" to a lot of people. They should mind their own business but doesn't take away from what's most likely to happen.
That or start playing Glycerine by Bush lol
Kids do NOT care what another child's name is. The shtty adults who TEACH these kids to be shtty mean to other children over names, are. Adults need to do fkn better at raising their OWN sht bred children. Worry about making them respectable instead of little bully axx tards who will end up picking the wrong one and then you'll be in some hot water as a sht parent, you are. 🤡💀🖕🏽
Yeah don't name your kids names that sound like they'd be usernames.
Disagree on the name thing. My name is unique. It's a combination of names as well. No one can pronounce it, and it takes me at least two tries to get them to spell it right. I hate it. My mother LOVES it. To be fair, everyone compliments it once they get it. However, I hate the hassle of it. I'm almost _certain_ that I have not been considered for job opportunities because of my name (an unfortunate reality for people with non-standard white names). I'm changing it real soon. It's a difficult thing to do to change it. I have to list everywhere I have to change it when it's done, go through the process of legally changing it, pay for it, then update my documents, and call everyone that has the old name on record...It's not fun. Stop doing this to your children, people.
Also, Nyxeryn sounds like a cold sore cream.
As much as I love greek mythology and the names, I do agree Nyxem is ridiculous. They couldve made the second part her middle name. Nyx is unique and not that bad.
Story 1: If OP and their partner liked the names Irena and Nyx, why didn´t they just name the child Irena Nyx? Why make up a whole new name, when middlenames are a thing?
Yes, it would make their daughter's life easier.
I wonder if Twilight had anything to do with this trend of smooshing names together
@@meep5667 Sadly it's been happening since before that. I think that just made it reach more people.
I was wondering this, too. It suggests there might be a whole other thing happening with the middle name. Even if kids don't tease (and they will) their name will end up shortened to just Nyx or Irinia
Exactly! My poor coworker is named Chastopher because his parents couldn’t decide between Charles and Christopher so they mashed them together. Also had a friend whose full name was Tessabelle because her parents couldn’t decide between Tess and Isabelle. MIDDLE NAMES EXIST PARENTS!
On story 1, I actually kinda like how y’all debating and neither of y’all are wrong 😂😂 hoping for an episode with that kind of intense debate 😂
We love a healthy disagreement 😊
The first story’s name sounds like a cold medicine let’s be honest lol
Cold medicine, Toothpaste, Laxative, Hard Drug, Anti Depressant
Nyxerina™ no more hot flashes! 😃
I googled Nyxerin and apparently it's a the name of a "wide, futuristic, cyberpunkish and free to use display font."
i do love that the boys are going to bat for an unusual name but I'm with Josh on this one. I think it's different than a cultural name. Nyxirene is Renesmee levels of awful. It's giving this is my long haired cat Nyxirene the Fluffy or something or a medication. Nyx Irene or Irene Nyx would be fine as first and middle names.
I think the best advice I've seen from people is to use that name as your own for a week: coffee orders, delivery, uber, anywhere your name is called out and like actually live it to see what your kid might deal with on a daily basis. It usually leads to a reconsideration or a tweaking of the name.
The world needs to be kinder AND we live in the current reality that names like this non-cultural one aren't going to receive good reception out in practice.
It’s somehow even worse than Renesmee to me bc it sounds like a mouthwash lmao
@@LoonyLovesLondon you're so right they're gonna be called Listerine 😭
its giving tanka jahari (impractical jokers) and the other episodes where the jokers call out weird names
Also it's actually the complete opposite of a cultural name since it seems like the parents aren't really Greek and just like mythology and literature in general. A reddit comment pointed out that "Irina" isn't the correct Greek word for peace, which is actually "Irini".
It kinda leans more towards what Sean said about white folks naming their kid something asian sounding. It's giving butchering someone else's language for an aesthetically pleasing yet impractical name.
Ask your doctor if Nyxirene is right for you!
16:53 OMG:
"We'll talk about it later"
Later: "Can't you just drop it. You're making me feel bad for the rude thing that was done to you."
So, no, to the talking about it later. He and his friends aren't good people, she needs to leave.
I think its a problem when parents forget that they dont own their children and dont consoder the fact that their daughter is a human who will have upwards of 50 years by themselves where they have to live with spelling and prononucing their name every single day. Shes just gonna change it or go by something else when she's older. It's a fundamentally selfish decision
Right?! They literally said “our baby” obviously not thinking about that fact that the baby will grow up
Yeah and even if the kid could change their name or go by a nickname they're still stuck with a truly awful name. Lol I'm sorry but that's a bad name. Nyx Irene is leagues better.
You don't leave someone drunk, blind, with no phone...
As a Brit, I agree with you about Texan BBQ, but for a Brit to not know Indian food is wild. Due to our long colonisation of India and the number of people that settled here through the centuries, you have to be really ignorant to not know about the range of Indian foods!
Crazy how an entire friend group could consist of professional victims
Birds of a feather...
@@vellathewench ...whinge in the corner together
Choosing a name for a child is a huge responsibility. When considering names for our children, my husband and I decided that either of us could veto any names we didn't like in initially narrowing down ideas. When we found some we both agreed on, we tried to think of things that could cause issues. We looked at initials, possible nicknames, things that rhymed with the names and such. We thought about kids wanting novelty items with their name on it, teachers taking roll, kids learning to spell/write their name, job searching as adults and anything else we could think of with names we considered. With female names, we considered initials and last name potentially changing with marriage. We wanted names that weren't so common that there was a high likelihood of multiple children in their classes with the same first name in school.
When we narrowed down our choices to favorites, we shared with our close family and friends and considered their reactions. With our second child, we asked our oldest, then a toddler, to say the names we were considering for their sibling. We tried out our top contenders in writing and verbally. It didn't really take long for us to make our final choices.
Our kids are now adults. Hopefully, our process of choosing their names has served them well. It's a big responsibility we tried to put a lot of thought into.
Story 5: there's an update. He found out throught Joe's instagram that he and op's girlfriend were f*cking behind his back and all their friends at the party knew and were laughing at him behind his back.
Op will be fine, and Joe and his ex will likely cheat on eachother.
She was so fucking blatant about it too, it's wild she was shocked when op dumped her
But he was insecure. Screw that chick. Glad he had the sense to drop her quickly.
@@meep5667 Op said that she likely was upset that he broke up with her because she's the one who breaksup, she should've been the one leaving him and not other wiser (her ego was hurt)
@@vellathewenchhow was he being insecure? His gf was acting weird, he caught on, and learned she was acting weird because she was cheating.
@@KindredKaye they weren't calling OP insecure, they were highlighting that the ex was trying to manipulate OP for the correct assumption that she was being inappropriate.
the uk has really good indian food, actually 😭😭 to think this british woman-whos probably had a bunch of indian dishes from both herself, her friends, and restaurants-thinks all indian food is brown is crazy
I love how the captions for the name in the first story is "Nick Serene"
y'all there's an update (18 days ago) for 46:29 and it is WILD 😭 so SPOILERS in case you don't want to know yet.
Here's my best summary of it. So dude was doing investigation on both their instagrams. OP found out that after Anne got dropped off, Joe made an Instagram post about potentially doing a cover for Scotty Doesn't Know by Lustra.
(Comments were making fun of OP and saying "he's going to hell", so L comments wtf)
And get this y'all... few days later, Joe posted a picture of Anne sitting on his lap. Based on the background, it was not even taken at the afterparty, but at the party that OP went to.
OP mentioned he was depressed (and still) not about Anne, but the fact that literally nobody from the party was willing to give him a heads up. (Despite them showing up together and obviously are dating!!)
In the end, he was just, i guess confused and bummed on why Anne kept being with him in the first place, and on top of that Anne getting upset about him breaking up with her and kicking her out. So, OP was thinking she wanted to be the one to dump him as a power move or having a thrill screwing around behind his back.
Anyways, i feel bad for OP for what he went through, and hopefully he takes good care of himself. (or bags a better baddie 😤) But that was all so byyeeee :) See you next video 💖
With the name, the pushback from the family is the reception that kid is going to get anywhere they go. Nyx would have already been an incredibly unique name and using one for the first name and the other for the middle name would have let them use both. And if the kid does end up disliking it or wanting to change it just accept that.
But the best advice on if you're considering giving a "unique" name to your potential kid: use that name yourself for a week. Like go to a coffee shop or make a reservation under that name. You'll get an idea if its a burdonsome name.
Story 2: for the dad that said op should have let mom stay at the reception:
Why didn’t you let her stay married to you? You want her, you take her back
Lmao
Story 1: Why not name her Nyx Irene?
Why not name Marylynn just Mary Lynn?
About the first story, this story hits close for me because I ended up legally changing my name due to people never being able to spell it, say it, and made fun of me for it and honestly having a unique name sometimes sucks whenever you can never find your name on a keychain. I'm white so I don't have an ethnically unique name but just a bad name. That kid will most definitely feel frustrated with everything I said before
What was your stupid name?
That keychain part!
If someone adds items after an item is cooked (on own plate) that’s fine. Adjusting while cooking? Hell no. That is hella rude.
Edit: I’m 5’ tall. I’ll never be the bigger person😂
Sean's rant about the UK was GOLD🤣🤣
Bully story: I'm going with NTA. Getting a vulnerable person home safely is the priority. Nicole is a terrible person, but I still wouldn't wish what could have possibly happened on her.
There's a missing 20 year-old woman from Georgia who was, apparently, last seen getting into an Uber. So getting someone a car isn't a guarantee of safety.
Yea, I get why the girlfriend is upset because it’s someone she didn’t like (rightfully), but still the top priority is getting a person home safe. She’s drunk, her phone is dead, and she can barely see without her glasses, she’s the definition of vulnerable. OP did the right things
I would help her but make her pay me or something first. Crazy to me that she feels like she deserves help from someone she’s tortured for years.
I call bull
Since the bully seemed to be lucid enough to ask for help, as OP, I would've taken the opportunity to demand an apology for my gf before helping, regardless of how insincere it might be. It's probably the only opportunity to call out the bullying in a way that wouldn't easily be ignored without consequences. If the bully apologizes, then I'd probably do what OP ended up doing. If not, the most I'd do is call someone to deal with it, and leave from there.
That name sounds like a sleeping pill brand. They're going to get teased a little, maybe, but Nyx is a cool nickname. It's what the super smart hacker girl would be called in a spy thriller or detective series.
Admitting you would let somebody potentially get assaulted is just messes up AF. Its a reality for most women that in the state she is in, she would get abused. OP did the right thing and his GF should get therapy to work on her trauma. Letting somebody in a dangerous situation is disgusting.
Married single mother. The mother would be better off without him.
Based off the title alone, it isnt "babysitting" when its your own kids. Its called being a parent.
Hear me out. 50-50% odds of someone liking the bizarre name they were given at birth is still an incredibly low percentage given that a name is forever. Unless, of course, you go through the tedious process of changing it. Time is money. The actual odds of someone liking a bizarre name their parents gave them is probably closer to 25%. Knowing people who like their odd names is not evidence that giving odd names is a good decision.
My mother gave me a Russian name (we're American) from a spy novel she read during pregnancy. It's a very common name in another part of the world, but it made my life as a child more difficult. Just because kids should learn how to contend with bullies doesn't make it acceptable to give them a reason to be bullied.
Is it your privilege to name your child what you want? Yes, but that doesn't make it "right" to handicap them. Making your child's name an accessory to your life by making it a reflection of something you love isn't a kindness you're doing for them. You're making them repeatedly explain why they have such an odd name (which will require explaining who their parents are and why they thought this name was a good idea for the rest of their lives). It's selfish.
Also, "Nix" is a type of head lice shampoo. Her name sounds like a medicine. Nyx+Listerine. Yikes. 😬 I was bullied for a Russian name. At least it wasn't a lice shampoo.
Love the fact that Jhon is a Mango fan, my go to crime-cast, more love for you guys now. (Didn't know it was possible)❤
I desperately need a gif of Jine flipping off the camera 😂😂😂😂 thank you for the excellent Friday episode guys!
I think the thing that annoyed me the worst about the Indian dessert is she didn't even taste it before dumping of cinnamon on there. This dish that she'd never had before and she altered it by color? What? Cinnamon isn't just unflavored food coloring. This is just malicious because it wasn't about not liking the dish, it was about not liking OP.
For the babysitting guy, seriously... before he even started digging the hole deeper for himself... sir, it's no wonder you're not making crazy bank out there. You obviously lack key cognitive skills. Either it's difficult or it's not. Make up your mind. If parenting your children on your own is easy, it shouldn't kill you do it for one weekend. If parenting your children on your own is soooo hard, your wife deserves a vacation and your kids deserve a better father because no one fondly remembers their childhood thinking, "I had the best dad! Yeah , he was a scumbag who cheated on my mom, but he did pay the rent! I mean, yeah, with her help, but ya know..."
Story 1: my name is Mistika(Spanish for miystical) hated my name when I was a teen and I go by Misty 😅
Story 5: In every relationship I have entered, I always expect my partner to behave similar to me. At no point, will I put myself in a situation where my partner’s mind can wander and feel unease. I’m not going anywhere alone with a guy who is obviously trying to separate me from my partner , so I would expect the same vice versa. It’s not about having to control your partner, but having your own self control, self respect, and respect for your relationship.
Bro said: I make close to six figures. So five figures .. which is like what insurance adjusters make working 37.5 hours a week. He works more hours - duh. You said she works part-time. May she kick him to the curb.
For the first story, I'm torn. As someone with a weird name, I literally had to explain my name and it's pronunciation several times a day for the first 20 years of my life. Since I was about 12, I stopped going by that name so I really only had to explain it to teachers and ask them not to call that name out loud. I got bullied nonstop about it well into my 20s. Now to say, I don't hate my name. I love having a unique name but it's also been a major handicap. People don't take me seriously. I get crazy looks in interviews and just the anxiety of knowing I'm going to have to explain my name again to strangers makes socializing hard. I either have to lie about my name or just tell them I just go by Jami and hope and beg they don't try to interrogate me for my full name. You'd be surprised how many people think it's cute and funny to constantly harass someone for information they don't want to give out or how many people take it personally that you don't want to tell them or be called that. On the flip side, having a unique name should be something that people should just have and it not be a huge deal. I wish it was normal for people to be like oh that's cool and move on but sadly it's not.
3rd Story- Honestly I bet the ex only agreed to it to be manipulative. When those types lose the person they are hurting it bothers them to no end. Even if they are romantically over them, given the chance to mess something up for them, they absolutely will.
With the bully story, I’m gonna have to disagree with you guys on this one. Op is NTA, as a woman and as someone who was horribly bullied all the way to college. One of my bullies even burned me, but I would never leave them in a dangerous situation like that and would never want to see them on the news saying they were assaulted and murdered, that happens just way too much. Especially knowing that they could have been safe if I had done something. I’m all about being petty and fuck being the bigger person but that doesn’t even apply to other peoples safety. Op did the decent human thing.
The last story he’s NTA and I get why Hannah feels that way. I’ve been bullied before. But there is no way I could leave someone like that. Even my bully.
I get getting an Uber and not riding. But I want to throw out there that women get assaulted in Uber or Lyft. As a woman, especially someone drunk and can’t see she’s especially vulnerable.
Thank you, they honestly made me so mad with that one. Upsetting my partner for a moment is still better than risking another woman getting assaulted?? No matter if its my bully or not, they should still get home unharmed.
Story 1: NTH I think we need a new perspective. This conversation can be interchanged from name to hair. Do you know how much growing up I heard oh you need to perm your hair, you will never get a job with your hair looking like that. Then you hear the same points being made. “No we shouldn’t have to straighten our hair to get opportunities but it’s just the way society is so assimilate”. Nothing changed until people chose to stop living their life based on what others find satisfactory. Names do have meaning which is why the meaning should be important to the immediate family. My name is unique and I’m a person of color. My whole life adults made fun of my name particularly white ones. It made me feel bad to have a unique name but I’ve always loved it. I ended up learning my name is Arabic and means affectionate. I am not an Arab woman but I found this to be so cool.
With story 1 i think parents need to remember that you’re not just naming a baby. That baby will eventually be a child, a teen, an adult and then an old person, so unless they change it themselves, they have that name for life. So keep that in mind when naming a child. My name is the standard spelling of my name and even THAT gets misspelled and mispronounced all the time
Weird names struggle with more than just social acceptance. Especially if they're long or unconventionally spelt. First hurdle for a child is that it makes learning how to write your name a little more difficult, especially when the pronunciation doesn't match up with what they learn about the alphabet. After that, it's a constant nightmare of having to relay your name to other people in any official capacity. You spend twice as long clarifying your name compared to those with conventional names, and even then you run the risk of people getting it wrong. In the context of official documentation, this could be disastrous or at the very least exhausting. Having special unique names doesn't have to be a troublesome thing, just don't go out of your way to make it more technically difficult to relay and remember.
That said, when it comes to social problems, most name bullying will come from kids. And it won't matter how accepting we become as a society of names from different cultures and places. Cultural/ethnic names can easily fly under the radar in school once parents aren't actively training their kids to be racist or xenophobic.
The problem is, kids come up with their own ways of making fun of a person based on nonsense. If you're concerned about your kids getting crap in school, just avoid names that sound too similar to certain objects that kids are likely to draw obvious comparisons to, or long names that sound like magical incantations. There are a lot of "normal white" names that you will get destroyed for in school too.
41:16 I hope his (OP) wife figures out she's a single mother.
Bengal is literally known for its sweets. And it was most likely made of milk so what color would it be if not white???
Story 1: if I'm going by my kids and their friends, they are much more forgiving and accepting than my generation was. The name is definitely different and in my opinion sounds like a medication, but I don't know that it's going to be that much of a problem for the child.
Naming children is hard. We all want cool unique names now...which isn't necessarily an issue. However, as someone with a "unique" name (it's not really, just not common in the U.S.) I know what it's like to have people not know how to pronounce my name and having to spell my name ALL THE TIME. I do love my name, as it's not a weird made up name but I do have issue with people trying to be trendy and creating god awful names these children, who will eventually become adults, are burdened with.
Yeah, I have a name which has one pronouncing in my mother tongue (more typically masculine, but still used for girls as well) and then it is more commonly recognised as gender neutral in the English pronouncing. I typically prefer the pronunciation of my mother tongue (I am feminine presenting) but most people assume I use the English pronouncing because of the "that is typically male". At this point I am tired to correct people, so I go by both. When someone says my name they usually say it in English, but when I present myself I say it in my native language.
In the "babysitting" father story, it boils my blood with how it comes across as if he views him making almost 6 figures as an indicator of how hard he works. Someone could put in 60 hours a week and end up struggling to make ends meet, while our billionaires don't have to lift a finger to earn what most average Americans will earn throughout their lifetime. Salary is not an indicator of how hard you work or your inherent value as a person. And that's not even including his neglect of his wife and kids.
Preach!
Story 1 : that child is gonna be bullied tho I understand that you can name your child whatever you want but I don't think they are considering the child feelings
I don't love the OP telling the TH-cam that Anne's not going to go to his party, but the fact that she left and didn't tell him, and she never texted him and arrived home at 5…
"I do wish harm on this person as well." A man after my own heart. Preach!
1st story: This is ridiculous. My twins were born in 1993 and are indigenous and have indigenous names. If people can't pronounce them or spell them, that's on them. My children do not dislike their names and have pride in their culture. Strangers don't know if it's cultural or not and it's only one demographic that bullies children. Even when the kids were young, they would get a little angry but simply repeat and not back down from how people were try to tease them. Eff people that don't like it.
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It really doesn't matter what you name your child, people will have something to say about it. I named my daughter Charlotte with 2 middle names, she has plenty if names and nicknames that she can choose. My in laws hated the name and went on about how ugly it was, it was too long, etc. Then the princess Charlotte was born and suddenly its a beautiful name 🙄 mind you, in their culture long names are common, their sister has 3 names too. And my nieces have "unique" not so pretty names 🙃
Babies aren’t accessories!!!!! Parents need to keep in mind that their little baby is going to be an adult one day, you can’t name them like a kahoot username 😭😭
I think with name thing, we are getting there. I’ve met two bears, one willow, one holiday and one Asia. So I just think we as a society is starting to be more open about kid names. That being said I saw a tiktok about a lady who had a baby with big blue grey eyes and named her sardine. I personally understand it but I’ve drawn sardines and appreciated how pretty the colour of sardines are. But I also understand ppl are more likely to be ah to the kid even though the parent made the decision.
the weaponized white woman tears from ellie omg
Story 6: I'd make Nicole give me her phone, I'd call her mom and tell her to come pick her daughter and wait there until her mom comes to pick her up
John is the best supportive boyfriend ever.
That was Judge Judy! She laughed and called them Dumb and Dumber!
as someone who’s been bullied throughout their life… bullies rarely if ever atone. The Axe forgets but the tree remembers. While the decent thing was to escort the bully home, it comes with knowing that this won’t impact them and they won’t suddenly have a change of heart.
11:23 my name is Johnie (“Johnny”), I’m a female.. I’m 28 and spent my whole life trying to go by my middle name or trying to convince my parents to change my name. I do think it’s helped me in the job world as for getting interviews and stuff, but I will forever hate my mom for giving me a “unique name” 🥴
Why didn't dhe just call you Joannie
Can't you change it yourself? I changed my name at 31 and didn't need my parents permission. Might ofc differ per country.
First story: The name is great and people need to learn to keep their opinions to themselves. Like, how can you sit there saying "oh poor kid, they're gonna get bullied" while simultaneously making fun of the name yourselves? Why add to the bullying instead of showing kids with any ounce of uniqueness (name, personality, etc.) That it's not only okay to be different, but a good thing and that our differences should be celebrated? As someone with just a less common name than anyone I grew up around (being "Thea" with additional uniqueness in the rest of my name, however I have no interest in sharing my full name so blatantly on the internet. But My middle name is my mother'sname, which was also a unique combination of her 2 grandmother's names, and my last name is very long and hyphenated) but also being someone with different interests and personal style than the people around me, of course bullying happened, for all of it, but I don't blame my parents, or hate my name for it. I hate the actions of my bullies and the inactions of the teachers and other adults around me and them, who's jobs it should have been to educate them on why their actions were not okay and shouldn't be tolerated. People still rarely get my name right, but Ive learned not to care how it's pronounced, especially when its obviously not out of malice and I'm honestly terrible at remembering names anyway, so I'm bound to mess up a few times too, even with the most common names-we're all human.
Also, I've had plenty of friends with overly common names who also got bullied, using their names and everything else within reach, as well as friends with common names who just absolutely hate their names because they feel like it doesn't suit them. A unique name does not damn the child to a life of misery, being surrounded by bullies and a lack of a support system will though. If the kid doesn't feel that the name suits them, it is their right to be able to go change it legally as an adult, but even then, the parents were not inherently wrong for choosing it.
Besides, these kinds of stories are a prime example of why many people choose to keep their baby name choices to themselves prior to birth, because everyone else wants to think their opinion matters or that they should get a say.
2 points about the names. 1) I remember when Nevaeh was a weird out there name that teen moms picked for the meaning. Now it's a lot more normal. The whole thing with names is that they're all made up. Kids make fun of names that are culturally different or just made up. It takes time and effort to change culture and laying down won't and going with the norm won't do that. It used to be very common for people to mash up names or pick a random word from the Bible and go with that just in America. The issue is very recent and very Eurocentric. 2) I'm reminded of Dr. Marijuana Pepsi. She came into fame for that outlandish name. But you can see the effect of her success on cultural names. Before you try to say OP's chosen baby name isn't cultural, yeah not with that attitude if we're going to be so puritanical about what a normal name is.
I have a feeling that the Dish story was rasmalai/roshmalai which is a milk based dish. Prominent flavor profile is milk, cardamom, and pistachio, some people use saffron too. Cinnamon is NOT a spice that would be commonly used in south asian desserts, its used more in savory dishes more so for its aromatic qualities.
My son is 13. He goes to school with lots of unique names and says literally no one makes fun of names anymore. They may have in our day, but he and I have personally never witnessed it with the younger generation.
1st story - The issue is that this isn't a "unique" name -- this is a MADE UP name. It'd be different if the name had cultural significance or was totally regular in non-english areas. This is a name thats never been spoken in the history of Never Ever. THATS why their the asshole -- this name Will be prime bullying material. There's no "Stop being racist" or "Stop making fun of them for their culture" to defend them in this scenario -- this is just a weird name given to a baby because the parents liked mythology and couldn't pick between 2 words.
26:08 right here is where Ellie tried to make herself the control victim!
26:36 and Ellie wouldn’t know because OP spent that time getting the recipe right and made it a few times in those 3 days.
23:18 that explains absolutely nothing! The UK has so much Indian food! Ellie should know better being from the UK, which is _literally_ why OP mentioned it! Sean’s whole rant is so unnecessary!
combining names always reminds me of twilight. "You nicknamed my daughter after the lochness monster!?"
but i agree with one quirky name and one normal name
The instant reaction to the title of the 3rd story was perfect lol
I'm British, and I think the point about the UK in story 2 is more rooted in the fact that Indian food is pretty ingrained into the culture here due to (albeit less-than-savoury) historical events, with a lot of the white people curries like chicken tikka masala being invented in the UK. Nowadays, due to our large Indian and Pakistani communities, it's rare to not find pretty great authentic Indian restaurants in most cities and Indian food is prevalent in a similar way to Hispanic food in the US. Saying that, I'm not defending the rest of our bland af food, but I don't believe that was the point being made by the OP.
Sadly, you can't save your child from being bullied. If it's not the name, it could be their hair or clothes or grades. You gotta do you and be strong
Story 1: Okey, first up I need to say that I am Greek, so I have that perspective here. The OP is an idiot and I felt kinship for the aunt's reaction. Also I bet the OP isn't a fan of mythology, she probably just played Hades and thought some of the names were cool. If I sound like I'm harsh, it is because I'm offended by how some of you reacted to this story. (Not offended enough to stop loving you guys or upvoting this video, but still offended.) Sean mentioned at the start that if it is two white people giving their child a weird name from another culture it would be wrong, but because it is a Greek name it is fine? Come on man, you're better than this. Personally I don't care much about this aspect, but it did feel like a double standard. I would not mind if the OP called her Irene. Nyx isn't even a Greek name, it is the name of a specific relatively obscure Greek goddess.
I'm most dissapointed in John's take who seems to think it is fine for parents to express how special they are by making their kids life harder. He is right that this isn't something we should accept and fight against, but you shouldn't force your activism onto your kids. I have a friend who changed her name to "wolf" when she turned 18. That's cool. She decided she wanted to stand out like that, and I support her in that decision. They are making their child's life more difficult, just to feel special. Not even to honor their culture, just to be special.
Story 6: John is having a bad day clearly. If I had a friend, who wanted me to abandon someone who is clearly in danger, I would stop having that friend. I say that as someone who believes in "Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies." Josh and Sean had good suggestions on how to deal with this that would have been better. But I'm still happy he did something, even if that wasn't the best solution.
Story 1: They're setting that kid up to be spelling her name to everyone until they're 18, when they change it to Mary. Irene Nix would be a totally great name. My rule is that if your kid becomes a judge, and they're walking into court, when their name is announced, people don't burst out laughing or going WTF?
Just call the baby Niki
For whatever reason, having kids launches you into the judge-o-sphere. People start judging you the second that kid is born and that's why I can't be bothered with judging names.
First story: If you really want to make weird creative names, give it to a character in a GAME, not a real person! A pet, maybe! We don't need more Renesmee level "Tragedeigh"s.
Fourth story (the title one) Babysitting? They're YOUR kids, dude! The word. Is PARENTING! Also, minus a whole bunch of more points for calling his wife "whiny"...when HE'S that!
Kids don’t want to stand out. I have never met an adult with a unique name, who loved it as a child
Story 6: OP could've called a taxi and put her in it, but not get in the taxi with her and his girlfriend.
Unfortunately there are loads of stories where taxi drivers (or people pretending to be, both are true) take advantage of people (most commonly women) in vulnerable situations. I guess they depends on where they are, but zibwould never send a girl in that state home alone in a taxi, not even my worst bully (and they took pictures of me after PE).
59:30 NTA. shes drunk and blind. she could be SAd. no matter how horrible she was to the gf, she doesn’t deserve getting SAd. he could have handled it better to not expose the gf to her bully like by getting her a different taxi or telling someone working at the bar or something.
1:01:50 i don’t like how this dude keeps saying “too bad” and shit like that when the other man is telling him she could be assaulted.
28:06 I agree with John!!😂😂😂😂. Everybody is gettin this work!
*Actions have consequences!* People need to start respecting people's boundaries. 🤦🏽♀️
They aren't the a**hole for being offended, but they really should have expected this reaction so such a.........weird name. I mean Nyxirene sounds like some sort of off brand of Listerene mouth wash or Lysol cleaning products, i can already hear kids making fun of her for it. Nyx and Irene on there own is fine.
Story 1: in the end, i think the point should really be, why are we allowing people to be shamed for having a different or unconventional name? Why can't we exist in a world where everyone just accepts it? All names are made up, and they aren't wrong that we are prescribing to a social construct created and upheld by a western white majority. Why do we keep upholding it? Why do we keep going back to, "they'll be bullied" like its an acceptable thing to allow, should we not teach children to be kind and accepting? Names are important, yes, i will not deny, but they are also inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Who cares if your lawyer is named Nyxiryn? Who cares if your boss is named Nyxriyn? Who cares if my child's best friend is named Nyxiryn? It doesn't. Unless the name is offensive it shouldn't matter. Your name shouldn't be the deciding factor for anything of major importance outside of the name being chosen. *steps off a soapbox* ty for coming to my ted talk (:
This! I’ve known a few people to go through a legal first name change process for numerous valid reasons. If it doesn’t fit, it’s okay to change! It’s okay to have it! It’s okay to exist with it! We shouldn’t just say “yeah don’t do that. I know for a fact that the kid will hate it and get bullied for it”. Okay and?! That’s not the kids or the parent’s fault.
If your friends call your (younger) partner a child, its not on your partner to act older than their age. Its on you to stop dating people your peers consider children.
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55:33 There may have not been any physical cheating but this definitely sounded like emotional cheating. It wasn't a normal interaction between friends, it was a man making a move on a woman who was flattered and went along with it
Everyone that already read the cinnamon story just waiting at the beginning for them to realize she changed more than her plate
New to your channel I’m going back to older episodes ❤
EHHH op isnt the ahole forr helping nicole he is for downplaying the bullying. no matter how much someone bullied me i seriously don't think I would leave them blind and drunk and alone w/ dead phone. Especially as someone who has been assualted, I wouldn't wish it on even my worst enemy and ik the guilt would eat at me & id rather have 30 mins of being uncomfy riding with my bully than guilt if something did happen to them. sure you could stick them in an uber alone but there are predatory uber drivers out there better to make sure they get home safe and potentially never have to see them again then potentially seeing their name on the news or a missing persons/young lady murdered article
the "fuck that" about nicole being kidnapped may have been a joke but she couldve been seriously harmed thats not something to take lightly. i would want someone who maybe didnt like me to help me in nicole's shoes and make sure i got home safe
If someone's added cinnamon in what I presume is rasgulla, I'm not touching that. Don't randomly add stuff to dishes you don't recognize from another culture. If you need to add color in a dish like that you add saffron.
Not the Boba joke 😂 that episode still makes me mad though
If my partner helped the person who tortured me home whilst they were still calling me the names to my face that night, I'd be pissed off. And i would strongly advise he rethinks the actions hes about to make or i may have to rethink a few things myself.
idk i think a normal person wouldn't leave a woman alone drunk at night who is unable to rlly see anything clearly who also has a dead phone with how likely it is she would be victimized
AITA for not babysitting my ki- NO! Next story.
There is an update to the third story, she was indeed cheating with the co-worker.
Weddings are not a family party; they are a celebration of the unity of two people. Like Sean said, why would dude's mom want to be there anyway when she's not down with the coupledom? If she (or anyone) is not there to support me and my relationship, I'm tossing her! 👋 Bye! ...🖕
I was bullied for Elizabeth. Kids are gonna be mean the name doesn't do anything. It's a lovely name. My inlaws hated my youngest children's names, and we laughed it off. (Tatsu and Alushka) At the end of the day, they can change their name when they are older if they feel it's that bad.
I do hope you know how expensive name changes are, though. Not saying your names are bad, I find them quite nice actually! I just don’t think people, esp parents, understand how expensive that is if your kid doesnt like their name even if its just the first one🥲