What is the New Russian Peace Flag?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Since the start of Russia's Invasion of Ukraine, countries around the world have come out in opposition, often using the Ukrainian flag as a symbol of resistance. For Russian citizens opposed to the war, their flag became a symbol associated with the occupying forces, and so a new Russian flag, a Russian peace flag of white-blue-white was posted and popularised both online and at protests.
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Looks like a clean blue river running through a pure white snow.
Or like a Russian paddy wagon
I like the flag more than the current Russian flag. It is more unique compared to other flags. I would love to see it become their flag someday!
@@HussainjrMalik really, to me it looks like someone got rid of one of the lines on the Finnish flag 🇫🇮
@@juwebles4352 yeah
@@vadimuha what's a paddy wagon?
This sounds like nonsense, but I can’t deny the resemblance of the protest flag with the flag of the Argentine province of Tucumán, the flag that is now in use for the province was the first Argentine flag, made by one of our founding fathers, Manuel Belgrano, he based it on the revolutionary cockade used by Argentines. It’s probably completely coincidental, but I still couldn’t ignore it’s resemblance
That’s so interesting. Yeah I’m Tucumano, Tucuman was the capital of Argentina back in the early colonizing days
It' is similar but the current flag is pretty similar to Netherlands or Luxembourg so no big deal.
You'll be even more surprised when see how russian Paddy wagons are painted
It's such a simple design... look at Poland, one of their Gmina Człuchów flag
self hating Russians aren't the brightest
A boy snatched a tricolor flag with its staff from above a house-gate, ripped off the blue and white strips, and raised the red remainder of the “national” flag high above the crowd. Dozens of people followed his example. A few minutes later a multitude of red flags were waving above the mass of people. White and blue scraps of material lay everywhere and the crowd trampled them with their feet.
-- October Eighteenth, 1905
counterintuitive flag design of removing the people symbolism while saying that it stands against oligarchy
@@bagrat6085 Didn't the white and blue stand for god and king? And the red stood for the people, or nation? Makes sense to me to be waving the red color and leaving the other two during a people's revolution.
Edit: I mean these interpretations for 1905, which is when the quote is from.
Yet today the Russian flag and its colours do not have any official meaning anymore.
It's also kinda wonky to have the blue meaning "king" in the modern Russian flag, considering that they haven't had an official king since 1917.
@@hirocheeto7795 Hi, I'm 20 and I'm from Russia. I've always dreamed, and now I really want to leave here :)
At school we were taught that the white color on the flag of the Russian Federation is a symbol of purity, independence and freedom, blue is the color of loyalty and constancy, and red is the color of energy and blood shed for the fatherland.
I like the concept of the new flag, because with such flag, after the end of this horror that has been going on here for a very long time, this country will be able to become a full and respected member of the world community again...
@@felixshprotov977 Надеюсь мы не вернёмся в ""цивилизованное" общество,эти события показали что правда за нашей страной
It's not quite "Belarusian protest flag", actually it's genuine Belarusian flag, the current official flag is the Soviet one.
Yeah the flag of the Belarusian Democratic Republic as well as the flag of the current Republic of Belarus from before Luckachenko came into power.
How can a flag be genuine or not genuine, its just a piece of fabric used by the government. Would be correct to say its previous flag
@@imionfamilin7057 Because it featured the colours of the Belarusian people, first featured on banners and shields of Belarusian (at the time western Rus) princedoms like Polotsk.
And later these same colours were featured ln the coat of arms of Belarusian duchies in the Commonwealth.
Imagine if the English flag suddenly changed to a neon pink flag with a chess piece in the centre, that is pretty much how legitimate the current Belarusian flag is as opposed to the genuine and culturally appropriate white red white flag.
@@yuppieNL i dont support the idea that peoples have their colors as a characteristic. Maximum you could say their skin and hair colors are their colors. The political entities have distinctive signs and other stuff and the white-red-white flag is older than the soviet one, sure, but these speeches about genuity, i cant help but find it stupid and senseless. The current flag wouldnt be genuine if they declared that their official flag is white-red-white and kept using the soviet one
@@yuppieNL There are no such things as "the colours of Belarusian people" or any other colours of the people. National flags and nation state flags are modern era construct which purely depends on who is the current ruling class in one society.
Novgorod Republic never had a flag. Even though it is called "republic" it was a very distinctive political entity. Even on it's large scale military campaigns it's militia was merging with the hired-to-rule prince's druzhina under his flag or under Russian Orthodox cross.
Its the modern day province flag of the regiom
@@cjclow052 right? That's what I heard too.
@@cjclow052 Then what does this new "flag" have to do with the "Novgorod republic" then? This whole idea is so dumb. The whole "novgorod republic resemblence" came as an afterthought. The initial idea was to just remove the red from the Russian flag. Which is a dumb idea.
Now she had
I dont like the new Russia flag.
It's very bizarre to see people insist on Russia still being communist in any way. A lot of Ukrainian politicians talk about Russia as if it is communist and you hear constant comparisons between Putin's amibitions and the USSR despite the Russian Empire being a far better comparison in most aspects
exactly, clearly Putin wants to be a tzar not a leader - you can see it by the way how he treats himself and in what palaces he lives in
Putin and ~80% of goverment nomenclature are from КПСС (CPSU - Communist Party of Soviet Union) Their history and methods are rooted in Chekism. Russia is'nt communist, but Putin's nomenclature ties us to the past.
Maybe ussr because putin wasn't born during the fall of the Russian empire. Sure Putin isn't exactly communist. But he treats the fall of the USSR which was due to it being rife with internal issues. But Putin thinks of USSR as a breakup by the west like the treaty of Versailles but for Russia.
As Russian historian student I suppose Putin has much more historical references to Nicolas I but not to any of Soviet chairmen
The trouble is that our regime can no longer understand who it is. On many truly Russian holidays, the flags of the USSR are raised. Many citizens infected with propaganda want to return the USSR based on Putin and Orthodoxy. On TV propagandists talk about the "democratic" nature of Russia and glorify the USSR. Complete shit .. Friend, our country is now just a collection of jokes written by a stoned drug addict
The Novgorod Republic was definitely not a more democratic state; it was very clearly an oligarchy. Power was almost entirely centered among the wealthy elite families of the time, which during Ivan's time, were the boyars. Republic =/= freedom, it just means their society wasn't monarchial (although it was, their Rurikid princes were just elected by their elite).
Also, side note, Magellan TV has a documentary about Ivan IV, where historians and psychologists explain Ivan's behavior becomes more understandable when you look at the way the boyars (most of them from Novgorod's sphere) abused him.
Novgorod is famous in Russia for it's People's Council named Veche, boyars appeared much more later
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(Just kidding)
@@clucknbell4613 The Veche was long before the formation of Novgorod
@@PetukkaRussia wdym? Novgorod is more than 1000 yo
@@clucknbell4613 The first mention of the Veche was in the 10th century, but it appeared long before statehood, back in the time of the tribes, because all Slavs of that time had their own analogues. In the same Poland in the 9th century, he chose the founder of the Piast dynasty.
The Novgorod Republic was formed in 1136.
As a Russian myself, I just want to say, this is not my flag and never will be. I despise people staying under it and behind it even more than Putin and his deeds.
So calling it a "new Russian Flag" is kinda overstatement.
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я тоже презираю соевых кукулдов с этим дepьмом на аватарках
I also think because i have the feeling that they will throw everything away that the russian were stand and standing for. You can see it from a visional point because one picture says more then 1000 Word
Пох, скоро вообще не будет такой страньі, а будет новая
the only purpose for this flag is to wipe yourself when you are short on toilet paper
Ого "расколдованное" звомби прибежало
True
a flag represents so much. the meaning can be subtle or in your face. what they stand for can change with time also. pride, prejudice defiance or support, all from a piece of cloth.
Behold, symbolism.
I agree, a flag has so much meaning. That's why I found the flag of the Azov battalion so offensive.
It sounds so silly, but it is true. Humans need symbols to gather around with other people of their 'kind'. You don't need country's to see it: Football/Soccer-matches as an example. And even there are differences if you are just waving the Clubs flag or are part of the "Ultras".
Nowadays it's like beeing just a Grunt or a Navy Seal. And even then it just dont stop:
"Oh, you are in Team 2.. that's sweet ... If I would tell you that I'm in 'SEAL TEAM SIX' I would have to kill you! But I won't! HaHa"
@@dirremoire What's offensive about the Nordic rune for "idea of nation"? Even the Swastika doesn't belong to Nazis.
Just accidentally being coloured just like Paddy wagon. White with a blue strip in the middle
Ахаха сука, челы на серьёзе обсуждают этот флаг, придуманный шизами из твиттера
I think this flag has a huge problem:
It was created on a false idea that the red solely represented blood and imperialism. It does not.
Like the video showed red in the flag represented the people of Russia.
The blue-white-blue flag idea is very artificial, and it doesn't have the same historical importance in representing people of Russia than the tricolor white-blue-red.
All flags were artificial at some point in the past.
Well tbf coincidently many countries who use red color in their flag(united kindom,france,germany,russia,belgium,spain etc) are former imperialist
@@Bikavin coincidently. There were a lot of non-impereiast countries with red color in their flags.
@@chatnoir1224 coincidently,most of the imperialist with red color in their flag are conquering other countries with red color in their flag who are NOT a imperialist
@@Bikavin Red is one of the most common flag colors in the world, over 3/4 of all UN member states have red on their flags. That's why so many former imperial powers use red
That desing was also used as one of the many early prototype national flags of Argentina, this type was specifically used by general Belgrano in 1812.
yes this flag is like the flag of the province united of the rio de la plata
Want a bigger coincidence. The flag of Misiones is the Russian flag but upside down.
Many people wonder what is the reason to change the flag? The most important one is that after 24th February Russian opposition living abroad could not use the official flag in Pro-Ukraine rallies because official flags were used by pro-Putin Russians alongside with the "Z" symbol to show support for the invasion. So there was a deep need for some symbols for the Russian opposition to develop some sort of distinction symbols to be absolutely clear and easy to explain what are they standing for. Honestly speaking historical references and other matters of symbolism were much less important in making the decision on adopting this flag.
Their atempt failed tho. Even Russians that are against the government dont use this flag but use the Soviet (leftists) or Imperial (conservatives) flag.
@@glebb..3416 I have to disagree with You. The majority of Russian opposition abroad use it, while Russian opposition uses green flags. Imperial and soviet flags are used nearly only at pro-war events
@@euqy Not only pro war events.
Russians abroad that use the "freedom" flag are a very small minority, often liberals that nobody cares about.
In my opinion it's an unpatriotic thing to do to change the colours of the national flag, because you disagree with something.
Could have just shortened it down to “they are cringe”
Complete nonsense no one in Russia takes seriously.
It just means Russia without people, just church and oligarchs
This would fit Turkey. No place for people. Just Oligarchs and Islam.
Wrong
Exactly what Novgorod republic was ;)))
@@luden1577 Yep, and we all know how it ended.
As a native russian,I do not like this flag,why we have to change our many hundred years historical flag on this thing,that makes no sense?
soviet flag was also new at some point. and now its iconic. for the better of for worse.
I live in Russia and have never seen or heard of this flag. Weird!
its a meaningless flag
It's a Nazi Russian Flag used by RVC
So basicly removing the stripe representing the people lol
I'm not Russian or anything but from what I know about the post-Soviet transition, the early 90s weren't a very hopeful period
They were basically a giant economic and humanitarian crisis
This was the time when Russia was robbed. Khodorkovsky, Chubais are directly related to this. Europe rose due to cheap energy resources from Russia.
guy: red means blood shed
literally all of Nato: 😅😅
After month of fighting, I heard some shouting from the Helsinki city center (Finland). I was with my friend walking home from work, and we were curious about what was happening and went to look. We knew it was some kind of protest. Then we saw these flags along with Ukrainian flags, and I was thinking: "Is that some kind of anti-Christian flag of Finland?" My friend could speak Russian and he understood what they were shouting. It was Russians against Putin march. We then understood that the flag we saw everywhere was for them, not for Finland. We joined the march for some time.
do you also protest against the ukranian bombing of donesk and lukhansk? or do you also protest against the ukranian cutting of crimeas 80% of water supply creating a harvest failure in where ukraine did not respond and only russia did by giving out grain and bread to the people there?
@@itsve8632 Donetsk and Luhansk are illegally occupied by Russia as is Crimea. Ukraine has a right to resist this occupation.
@@samr1931 no they arent? the people revolted in doensk and lukhansk agianst the ukranian goverment did you see the protests? ukraine is a state that was constatly bombing and trying (failing) to take over theae 2 nations, (they didnt do very well lol)
@@samr1931 don't react, he is likely a Kremlebot. As a Russian I can tell you the whole argument of "where have you been for 8 years while the Ukraine bombed Donbass" (Russuan "Где вы были эти 8 лет..." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_have_you_been_for_eight_years%3F) was used by bots on every single comment chain in ВК in late Fabruary and early March since the propaganda had to give some sort of justification for the war.
@@itsve8632 Ukraine cutting water makes sense, bc scorched earth but with water
Прокладка на которую налили тестовую жидкость. А флаг который использовали в белорусских протестах это использованная прокладка.
Твоя ?
That Russian "Peace flag" is cringe and I spit on it.
Mkay. I burn the real Russian flag, so I guess it evens out.
agree, no need to change the flag that was for 400 years just because of a war
@@NokiaTheReuploaderif they just go back to the old one after I see no problem
I am from Belarus. I will not say red-white flag is bad, I will say isea of protests is bad. And 🇧🇾 flag is really cooler. White red is boring
Wait a minute... Is it just me but is this looking strangely like the finnish flag.
Not just you bro...
I thought it looked oddly familiar
Finnish patriots in control, trust the plan
So Russia is just little Finland?
@@misham6547 Russias pretty big
It looks good. (Finland)
Haha, it's because you have the same colors?
You know here in Ukraine we pretty much love Sweden colors, gon knows why :)
If finland was athiest :v
@@fightingfinn1503 haha kinda is already
Then how do you think US flag should look like? Hm...
@@aapomaatta9211 atheists in Finland are spreading this lie. There are a
lot of devoted christians in Finland.
Black-yellow-white is a beautiful and cool Russian
imperial flag than white-blue-white
Сочетание этих цветов ничего не значит, имперский флаг полное говно
@@prisonmike781 зато красиво
@@tako7445 👎
The actual Belarusian flag is exactly this peace flag but the blue stripe is red. I don't think this would fit Russia though. Belarusians have a considerable amount of history with their red white flag and it actually looks good as a state flag. I don't see any reason for why the tricolour which represented Russia for centuries could be replaced by a flag that doesn't even look that good.
The French, Portuguese, Americans, British and Turks committed atrocities under the same flags they have now, seems dumb to me if anyone advocates to use the blue white flag as the state flag, as if the Russian tricolour is the Third Reich flag or something. Plus the WW2 German flag was also not representative of the Germans and their history either. It was an Ideological flag exactly like the peace flag, it's not long lasting like Russian culture and history.
A better alternative would be perhaps using a lighter shade of the blue and red if the flag even needs to be changed.
My guy the belorusian identity apperaed in the 19th centuary just like the ukrainian one, not hating on them just saying it. Dont try to be something you never were you can be great by uplifting your real history and true connection to other nations such as russia and ukraine.
@@sp.8727 no its not it arose in the 19th centuary, the identity that the eastern slavs had was the kievan rus in genral slavs no russian nor belorusioans and ukrainians, ukraine means literaly border land so dont tell me how it was mentioned in ancient times.
@@sp.8727 It's probably true that a distinctly "modern" Ukrainian nationhood formed within the last 2 or 3 centuries because of Romanticism. The elements of Ukrainian culture, and the Ukrainian people, and language do go back much further though.
@@sp.8727 the kievan rus was the state ancector from which all 3 countries came to be the first one was russia after the principality of moscovy formed russia.
Muscovy was one kf the any principalities that were part of the kievan rus it was not yet russia. All 3 countries can claim the kievan rus as the beging on their history none can say its the begining of their existance, the ethnic and cultural lines didnt exist yet. Ukriane cant claim it has existed through the kievan rus because nobody there called themselves ukrainians they didnt have any kind of cultural resemblence to todays ukrainians. Dew to polish influence and the distance betweent the people differences began to appear.
No it’s the flag of Belarusian fascist collaborators
3:07 welp, it was not an "period full of hope" the 90s were the worst period of russia since the second world war, because capitalism was not working as expected :|
Ten year drop in male life expectancy from 1990 to 2000.
I mean the start was...
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what kind of idiot decided that red means blood, war and empire? What kind of idiocy? In terms of what the red line does then on the new flag of Belarus, what about the flags of the Balkan countries, China, the USA and others like them? I just don’t understand this I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, but I don't get it
Neither do I. Bullshxt.
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It represents the American intelligence network in Russia
It represents soy
This^
The Americans miss the Yeltsin era
This white flag with a blue band has actually been for centuries the flag of the Canton of Zug in Switzerland. I have it on my car's license plate!
Sorry time to change it!
As a Russian person, I can say that this flag is clowned on by pretty much everyone in the context of replacing our current flag, no matter their stance on the war, including me. As a protest symbol, it has meaning and it's fine exclusively as a protest flag, but as a real replacement it would be horrible, because our flag has too much historical and ideological value. Even though Russians are not the devotees of their flag like Americans are, it still has meaning to us, even though before the February you'd rarely see it anywhere.
this flag is mocking russia's history, the red color in the russian flag symbolizes all the people that died for their country.
Bullshit, I`m russian too and I like this flag
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Коментатор русский
Отель - триваго
@@wixovmvoxiw2905 а в чем смысл этого флага?
@@megidora5248 вот почему вы найдëте идеальный отель по оптимальной цене! А вообще, я просто в Японии некоторое время жил, вот и кличка от друзей осталась.
Really don't like that the lighter blue is based on the Yeltsin-era flag after he nearly caused a civil war and allowed for mass privatisation, inequality and poverty to rise in Russia.
I think it was more connected to the republic instead of tsar/monarch, which Putin is in a way
@@Pigraider268 Putin has done a pretty good balancing job between appeasing monarchs and socialists through imagery, so yeah, I'd have to agree. Do wish they didn't harken back to the Yeltsin days tho as they were literally hell for millions of people, with their effects still being felt to this day.
Well of course, the flag is only really used by Russian emigrants, who profited from Yeltsin and left after Putin came into power
@@derserthefoxxo3873 if it was literal hell, then now it's a literal purgatory; post-USSR could become a new Mega Balkans and Yeltsin did prevent it with other post-sov leaders. Russian economy, when it worked, worked only because of Yeltsin people's reforms, and pootin was extremely lucky (unless all of Russia) to have very high oil prices. Privatisation, do you know what is it? How do you expect to live without privat property? Yes, it was ill-provided, but it was necessary to provide and there were no best people to do it, all Russian problems are from Soviet asylum, lack of professionals included, literally almost no one did know about market and functional state, they did what they could did, and these thugs who rule now, they would'nt be capable to do half of this, it's titanic work, you know.
@@clucknbell4613 The USSR was a global superpower with one of the worlds strongest economies despite international sanctions. Gorbachev's reforms followed by Yeltsin's shock-therapy capitalism completely destroyed the economy and led to poverty and suffering throughout the entirety of Russia. And that's not even mentioning the shelling of the Russian White House in 1993, the rigged election in 1994 to keep Yeltsin in power and the war against Chechnya.
As well, people did live in Russia without private property, and the rest of the SSR's, for 70 years. However, private property does nor equal personal property, such as furniture or clothes, which I believe you are referring to.
i don't respect flag of my country, which made by non-binar russian immigrant from Germany. It's cringe.
Я как русский вижу в первый жизни этот голубо-белый флаг. Флаг похожий на тот, который на протестах в Белоруси использовали красно-белый. Какая то либеральная чушь
Серьёзно? Коротко говоря это флаг либералов
Should've just done a Belarus and used their SSR flag without a hammer and sickle, because that's not lazy in the slightest
Wouldn't that flag just be red with nothing on it?
@@kuroshthegreat8073 No, since the RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) had a unique flag from the USSR, having a blue vertical stripe on the left-hand side
@@kuroshthegreat8073 that would be a red flag
@@KennyNGA It would be a red flag with a blue stripe..
@@derserthefoxxo3873 no, The USSR and the RFSR had different flags
I like to see that many people even abroad Russia thinks that this flag is stupid.
Because this is not a flag, this is incomprehensible nonsense to anyone. Our flag is beautiful 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺 only this flag and nothing else.
Флаг куколдов
так, кто постирал флаг?
i thought that the red in the flag also stands for the people of russia. wouldnt removing it in the flag be negative, symbolising that this isnt a flag of the people?
People using this flag are not familiar with the concept of logic. Initially, it was a meme flag from the Russian analogue of 4chan, it appeared a long time ago and it was essentially a joke, after the start of the war in Ukraine, some psychos decided to use it seriously, by analogy with the white-red-white flag of the protest movement in Belarus.
The flag is not the flag of the people. People that wave this flag are inheritantly anti-Russian and hate their history.
It isn't of the people tho
First, the symbolism of the Russian flag colours is relatively obscure even in Russia and was "retconned" into it anyway. In fact, more Russians knew that these colours suppose to copy a Dutch flag, rather than that they have any meaning.
Second, it's a flag used mostly by liberals. They do not care for each individual person in the country, but not for a people as a separate entity. Besides, the people in Russia are often understood as supporters of authoritarianism and general anti-humanism. They do not consider themselves a part of these grassroots masses and don't want to be perceived as them, this is actually the point of the flag.
So I don't think it bothers them too much.
@@glif1360 The colours were used before the dutch flag. It was the tricolor design that inspired pyotr to change the flag to the current one. And the current one should stay.
Okay why we didn't delete red stripes from America flag? If in Russian it symbol of people in America it (idk) but we can say that blood and conflict in Syria! Or in Canada flag delete red colour? Only white! Looks good!
As a Russian, I am neutral to this flag. On the one hand, it can be useful for Russians living abroad, they can express their opinion against the war in order to at least somehow avoid possible discrimination. But on the other hand, I am categorically against this flag as a state flag. In fact, the current Russian flag has no official generally accepted meaning of colors. There are many definitions of what the colors of this flag are stay for, in some of these red means courage and bravery, as well as statehood. And it seems to me that negative associations can be matched to almost any color, even white (if you think about it, white is the color of one of the narcotic substances, lol) the main thing is to have a good imagination. Besides, this whole idea that "we will change the flag and immediately embark on the path of democracy, and everyone will love us again" seems silly to me.
Russia has always been loved by most non Western countries. Why need democracy to make everyone love it?
@@Jahanbakhsh35 yeah. West loved Russia only in 1990-es - when our country was weak, destroyed and was slowly collapsing. I don't think we need western "love", we need strong country and economy.
@@user-fc8jz6hk1j to make ur country strong?
Did you know that the communist party is killing 2 million people in Cambodia for refuse to be a slaves?
That's why I'm hate Russia
I'm Cambodia
ខ្មែរក្រហមរបស់រុស្សីុចាញ់វៀតណាម។
@@s5r581 do you know, that Cambodian regime was supported by USA and wasn't supported by CPSU? And do you know, that theory of communism was created in Germany? Have you read at least one Marx's book?
@@user-fc8jz6hk1j but Soviet union is the one who start spreading it. And start civil war in Cambodia.
Бело-сине-белый флаг - флаг куколдов.
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Did they also change US flag when it invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, Serbia, Vietnam, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Liberia, Sudan, Congo or was it not necessary?
Now how the fuck does this relate to the subject in this video
@@pianomaster696 People came up with the idea of this flag when Russia invaded Ukraine. Just curious if the same also happened with the USA or maybe there are some double standards in play.
@@devrusso I don't know, did Russia change its flag after committing a genocide all throughout Eastern Europe? Did China change its flag after committing a holocaust against Muslim Uyghurs? Did Serbia change its flag after killing thousands of innocent Bosnians? This whataboutism is stupid and probably the only thing you anti-west cucks grapple on to when someone opposes a dictatorship
@@pianomaster696 People came up with the idea of this flag when Russia invaded Ukraine. Just curious if the same also happened with the USA or maybe there are some double standards in play.
Ah, nostalgic Hilbert screen tearing in the beginning there.
I thought it was my drivers going again lol
I don't think the flag needs to be really changed, but right now it is used as a symbol for Russians opposing the war. For the moment it's good.
Non-russian opposition which try to looked like russian*
I agree
This new flag clearly shows how this people "love" their country and people... Because red line means all the blood that people of the Soviet Union shed in WW2 to protect their loved ones. So yeah, lets reject ans forsake it...
Какой совиет юнион?
Этот флаг существовал задолго до совка и 2 мировой. Изначально это флаг торговых судов Российской империи. Трактовщик недоношеный🙈
@@arckimon9225 умница!
ну, с пословицей "всё новое - хорошо забыток старое" суть "прогрессивизма" становится предельно ясна
усиленно стираем всю память о двух мировых войнах, чтоб была ещё одна
да пошли они нах*й, кто они вообще такие чтобы менять наш флаг. Пытаются сделать из нашей страны импотента в плане влияния.
1:07 so these peace people removed the color representing the people? What did they mean by this?
they say the red is associated with war and imperialism
"The people " is a backwards threat used since the bolshevik days and many Russians understand this while others still fall for it. So, it indeed has a bloody history.
Red is traditionally associated with beauty, before red became the color of terror.
@@cagangultekin8469 Stalin's Russia and blood of millions starved & shot. Red for people was a Stalinist Commie idea.
@@cagangultekin8469 bs
Yeah dont expect ignorent people to be smart.
It's actually such a desgrace to invent a new flag deprived of historicall meaning just to justify your disloyalty to your government. People with such a mentality never should be anywhere close to state regalia. National flag belongs to people, those who are ashamed of it cannot be a part of that nation.
If the flag belongs to the people, then it is the people who choose whether to like or dislike it.
One ashamed of their country isnt or shouldnt be an enemy, one can be even searching the best for the country pointing the errors in the shame of their country, one flag isnt the entire country, historical meaning dont have to be good , can be the prosperity and the complete decay, can be the face of future or death, if the people wang changes ,there will be or wiĺl find ways to do then, only closed people who find confort in a faulty system is the people society should take out
Лол нафиг нам нужен флаг, созданный существом которое не определилось со своим полом?
Плюс ко всему красный в нашем флаге это не кровь а символ красоты.
@Polonus 🔰 Смешная шутка
@Polonus 🔰 ?
@Polonus 🔰 what the hell
Interesting factoid.. "Novgorod" literally translates to "New City".
And they have both a Novgorod and a “new Novgorod”
@@contenteater No, there is a Lower Newtown - Нижний Новгород, but there is no New Newtown.
Haha.
Belarusian Novogrudok (Novogorodok) - New City
Russian Novgorod - New City
Russian Nijniy Novgorod - Lower New City
Serbian Belgrad - White city
Russian Belgorod - White city
Russian Magnitogorsk - City of Magnet Montains
Belarusian Soligorsk - City of Salt Mountains
Belarusian Grodno(Gorodna) casually means City
They just basicly just grabbed a flag of a Kherson Peoples Republic or the colors of OMON and that is their flag.
It's funny how according to the Russian flag symbology this flag left just god and king
Not really? It seems more like its trying to go with "God, justice, peace" as the light blue is a typical symbol for Justice.
It would also make some sense if we look at the flag makers goals.
They wish to make a new Russia and a new image for that Russia.
God and religion as a whole is important to Russians so removing it would cause controversy. Plus "god" didn't cause the suffering of the people.
Justice makes sense as it may symbolize the new age for Russia. One where those who caused others to suffer are put to justice.
And peace is self explanatory. It most likely wants to show that "Hey Russia isn't the big scary bear to the east that's gonna eat all of you eventually"
Note: I will not respond to shitty debates on whos wrong or right in this conflict. I personally hope that the human suffering going on will just end as soon as possible!
Ещё как смешно😆😅🤣😂.Осталось это понять только всем остальным людям в России,которые дрочат на эту ТРЯПКУ.
"Bicolor" may mean two colors, but in vexillology it is ONLY used for flags that have just two separate colored fields (like Ukraine or Poland/Monaco/Indonesia), even if a threepartite flag has only two colors (like Latvia or Austria) it still stays a tricolor flag!
Nice to know
Quite ironic of erasing the stripe representing the people, as if it is the people which is the problem. And when you see those particular russians want to be part of the western bloc, the same western block that is currently committing demographic suicide, maybe that's the actual aim.
Yeah bro when everyone sees red they think of the Working class and not the crimes of the soviet union, schizo
Russia loses a million people each year due to low birth rates and a failing economy. If anything, Russia is committing demographic genocide.
I'm from Russia, and I've always heard that the red stripe means blood, not people.
@@angryaustriancake Red is a people
The Blue King
White God
@@user-ze9py2nr8v вообще то синий это изолента соединяющая красных коммунистов и белых
I'd love to see a video for the Belarusian flag since you mentioned it. I read in "Rise and Fall of Belarusian Nationalism" by Rudling that the red-white-green colors were used by the Belarusian bolsheviks much earlier than when they adopted the flag with those colours in the 1950s. Though they are still more recent "national colors" than the white-red-white.
More than anything, though, I'd just love to see more people discuss the Belarusian People's Republic of 1918 and raise awareness of the white-red-white flag.
no, i, i need my red, I NEED MY RED COLOR
This is not new Russian Flag. This is USA flag.
As a Russian, I am against this flag as a state flag.As a sign of protest, it is suitable, but not for the personification of our country. The red color symbolizes not only blood and the Soviet Union, but also courage, valor and love. This is a very beautiful and proud color, therefore the most popular in the world
I don't think your opinion is matters
@@Pavelgon4ik And then whose does it matter if not the citizens of Russia?
@@Pavelgon4ik shut up,he is Literally a Russian.
@@ddiiaannaa6435 the guys who support the opposition/revolution from abroad, I guess :))
@@Pavelgon4ik neither yours
извините меня, я не владею английским языком, мне показалось что вы сказали что новый протестный флаг появился 28-ого февраля 2022 года, но он был и раньше на чуть более старых протестах 1-2 года назад точно (возможно я что-то не так услышала) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
как россиянка я не то чтобы нуждаюсь в новом флаге, на мой взгляд лучше выходить на протесты с флагом той страны гражданином которой ты являешься, показывая что это твой дом и ты борешься за порядок в нем
Согласен, но выходить на антивоенные протесты с официальным российским флагом - самоубийство, потому что там могут быть украинцы (^:
Имею в виду протесты в Европе, конечно
Тебя в современном мире МЯГКО говоря за это не поймут. 2)1-2 года назад? Под каким соусом он тогда использовался?Что он выражал вообще?
white-blue-white flag is actually only a transitional flag. The final version will have the blue stripe removed.
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So just a white flag. Wtf
@@shahedmatin5427 You got it, champ.
That's kinda funny
@@deim3 never go full France xd
Forget it, you will never see this flag again.
2:36 this is not only the flag of the protesters, but also the national flag of Belarus. Just dictator Lukashenko changed the national flag to the soviet flag.
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Think the new flag is really beautiful and clean
It reminds me of a clean blue river running through a white snow background. I mean Russia has water and snow so it's fitting.
i dont like it, its throwing out the symbolism of the people who gave their lives to protect their nation which should never be forgotten, it also looks too simple and bland without the red in my opinion
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@@stemperor16 Oh look little ruSSians
@@TheGrace020 🤡
Humanity never learns from its mistakes
Nobody uses or knows about this flag in Russia, nor there are any protests with it.
Source: I live in Russia (specifically Kaliningrad)
No, you live in Czechia, specifically Královec.
@@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk very fun, kid.
@@copperaxe3931 Это только твоя ошибка что ты не голосовал на референдуме.
@Александр Григоренко вот даже официальные новости th-cam.com/video/x8O6NK2V9DY/w-d-xo.html
@Александр Григоренко как раз наоборот, читать научись.
I think the peace flag won't stick for too long just because it doesn't have any historical meaning (before the war it was used for a fictional government website) and i made just for the sake of it.
We should call it "a flag created by some German women", which has no relation to russian people and russian opposition. If russian opposition would create a propose a flag - this would be acceptable. But no person would ever use something 2 foreigners created for other nation without asking them first.
I call it the Russian Reddit flag
ti pidor
Thank you all kind usonian white guys in the comments for telling us russians which symbols we should use to represent anti-imperialism and why 🥺
They should remove blue stripe
The 1991 tricolor is also cool. ☦️
it actually didnt exist as a flag with officially fixed white, blue and red colors. the flag with current colors was also used, and the "1991 tricolor" was just a variety of Russian tricolor. but i agree that it was a cool flag with a beautiful combination of colors, i hope he will be back :)
Russian 1991 flag is a capitalism of death. Killing 3 Millions of russian starving to death, medicin and food running out and the constitution crisis had happen in 1993. You know this Western capitalism is really bad to bullying russians. Scums...
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@@user-rc1oh5kd1u I have some Eastern European and Russian ancestry, if that counts.
As someone who has a passion for Russian history above all other nations including his own, I really liked the Novgorod reference (albeit, it's a little misleading, since the Republic of Novgorod was an entity which predated the whole flag and anthem shebang we do nowadays, but I don't think that connections by name should be underestimated); Russian intellectuals were actually somewhat obsessed for quite a while with a Muscovy-Novgorod dichotomy for a premise on how to model the state, especially during the Enlightenment, so it's extra potent for that purpose.
Addressing the chances of it becoming the official state flag, the only issue I can see is that the Russian political landscape is not likely to allow it, and even if regime change does occur it's highly unlikely to be meaningful in a way palatable to the West without disintegration of the Russian state in near-entirety (a multivariate threat from both within and without that I believe to be the impetus for this conflict). If there's ever a two-word description I could give to describe Russian history, I would say "stably volatile". It's far too vast, diverse, and riddled with age-old social and geographical problems to hold together without an authoritarian structure, and consequently Russians tend to have a different concept of freedom to us in the west who often conflate it with political participation. I'd say (anecdotally) that attitudes are somewhat in line with the Slavophiles of the 19th Century, though few would self-identify as such because it's kind of a niche curio topic; a strong leaning to a freedom "from" politics instead of one to participate in it, and while the Soviet Union further illiberalised it, the substrate was already there. I'm risking generalisations and deterministic traps here, so I'd like to take a pause to remind myself and others that these tropes are not universal and definitive, but there are powerful strings of continuity which date back to the Mongol Conquest at the latest which have centralised power and formed a different social contract to the one we understand; one which the West seldom accommodates (This is core to my belief that surmising the conflict as strictly "Putin's fault" or something of that ilk is overly simplistic and convenient; it's also why I lament the wasted potential improving relations with Russia between the Soviet collapse and ~2013, something I wholeheartedly believe to be the fault of America and Europe by giving legitimacy to the suspicions that NATO was a Russophobic alliance all along. It really was a once in a lifetime chance that we squandered).
I think the flag is a nice gesture in theory, but I'd be remiss to disregard the suspicion that it's similar in principal to the Eurocentric view of Gorbachev who is near-unanimously considered a hero in the West and far less so the deeper you go into the Slavic sphere. It's a hopeful assumption that a Russian national narrative can accept anything less than hegemony over a pan-Slavic (or at least east-Slavic) sphere of influence, for example. It's their Monroe doctrine after all, and while we like to pretend we've all grown up in our part of the world, they're playing the same game as us on a geopolitical level and neither side is willing to accept an introspective reality in their narratives. Our media is applying a double standard just as much as theirs is. They have propaganda, we have "unbiased journalism"; they have corruption, we have "lobbying".
Side note among side notes: Their yellow and black coat of arms flag is objectively the best looking and most iconic.
I've bounced around too much with this (I'll blame it on sleep deprivation. I might review it later, and then again I might not), but I hope something in this word salad made enough sense to be worth reading. I'd be really interested to hear more about this development in future.
RuSSia is a Shithole! Moralic, militair, economical rotten!
I like the old tsarist tricolor (black gold silver) as it has the same coat of arms reference, but isn't as cluttered (important for a flag to be painted from memory) and is in no way referring to the damned "panslavic" messianic complex of the russian elites.
As a Russian just say that WBW simultaneously cause laughter and anger. There is not a single Slavic state (with the exception of Ukraine) whose flag would not have red, because it is the most traditional and original for the Slavs and not just a symbol of communism.WBW is loudly screaming propaganda from those who are ashamed of being Russian, this is the flag of those who like to humiliate themselves in front of others.
Here is a stupid joke nobody needs. I remember when in 90s my father joked about this "new Belarus flag". He said "lard-meat-lard". How do I supposed to name this new Russian flag? "Lard-vodka-lard"!
(Sorry, didn't mean to offend somebody, peace)
Lard meat lard sounds tasty 😋
A paddy wagon
@@ZhovtoBlakytniy it's because you are Galychanka ;)
Хаха! Я правда посмеялся с этого:)
This new flag is castrated russian flag of surrender before the fight
As Russian, I would say this flag has a little to do with Russia and its population, as most of Russians are good with Soviet and current Russian flag. This one most likely designed for western viewers and investors.
Just add a blue vertical line and you've got Finland in your hands
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Давайте уберём красный цвет с флага США за её кровавое настоящее и прошлое как никак. Ливия, Югославия, Ирак передают привет
Друг мой, они не прочитают, так как мы пишем на русском, а они не понимают русского языка
@@Maksvell1991 ну потому что они привыкли быть гигемонами и везде использовать свой язык, но я надеюсь, что скоро все поменяется
@@Maksvell1991 интересно, но если писать такое под украинскими короткими видео, то они будут писать нескончаемым потоком
I don’t like the flag, not because of what it represents, but there’s just something about how it looks that I just don’t like
I think it looks pretty good ngl
You know, maybe it's a matter of what we are used to. Most flags have an immediate strong visual impact due to the colours used. Examples can be the flag of France, UK, USA, Brazil and China
This russian protest flag is quite...soft. Visually softer than what is more normal.
This is my just thought, by the way I kinda like this simple design.
@@Сънливият-Пияч well, the blue is simillar to that of the state flag yeltzin-era so I guess they could only add a border of some sort
Same. Its just too "soft" and looks super boring and made without care. It also doesnt give much of an impression. Also it just threw away all of the culture and history of russia.
God, King and People... Firstly there were never kings in Russian Empire. Secondly as a Russian I never heard such a description of colors. Here is a quote from wiki: "At the times of Alexander III of Russia the official interpretation was as follows: the white color symbolizes nobility and frankness, the blue for faithfulness, honesty, impeccability, and chastity, and the red for courage, generosity, and love. A common unofficial interpretation was: red: Great Russia, white: White Russia, blue: Little Russia."
Согласен
Meaning of 3 russias for burger lovers: Great Russia is literally normal Russia, White Russia is Belarus and Little Russia is Ukraine
Пусто у тебя в голове, король - это царь. А насчет другого оттенка синего, я ведь помню что в начале 90х он был не таким синим
@@alexs81- Он был голубым.
Belrus democtric republic: hey I've seen that before
Pushy anti-Russia propaganda
6:05 We should call it the Russian Surrender flag
What a stupid flag. As an American, my flag has been swept up in horrible crud, but I still wave it, since it symbolizes the COUNTRY, not the government.
its a simple scene, but 4:39 gave me "Baltic road" vibes
Это флаг Вейшнории (Вымышленного государства в Беларуси, где проводились учения)
Да и не только.
I'm sceptical about russian so-called opposition and the flag is not something that can change the current situation in Ukraine and in russia itself.
Напоминает полоску которую рисуют на полицейских машинах
К сожалению да...
В этом есть смысл 😉
Это ТАК И ЕСТЬ.
@@woventundra Ещё какой!
New ROA flag looks pretty good
Ahahah, agree (:
btw roa was fighting for germany in ww2/great fatherland war
@@user_haze people who use this flag are collaborationists too
Как русский заявляю, этот флаг такое себе
А какой норм?
@@user-co6gr5mo3m
Флаг 91-го года или любой другой, содержащий белый, синий и красный цвета.
@@cclgte согласен. Причём ирония в том, что флаг, который у нас используется сейчас, был использован Временным Правительством Российской Республики, на которую многие современные либералы и соц-демы наяривают (и я в том числе, хоть отношу себя к техно-либералам)
@@user-co6gr5mo3m российский триколор 🇷🇺
@@avansi5621 скажи что-нибудь на техно-либерстском. Что ты вообще такое блэт?
The white-blue-white flag is the most terrible, there is no history, there is no sense in it 😖👎
I'm Russian. The main meaning of the white-blue-white flag, as already mentioned in the video, is the opposition of the current government, which originates from the monarchy.
Russia appeared on January 16, 1547, it is very similar to the unification of Germany. There were many principalities, but the main contenders for unification were the Grand Duchy of Moscow (in the West it is called Muscovy, but the Russians never called themselves that) and the Novgorod Republic. As you can see, Moscow was a monarchy with a grand Duke at its head, who became tsar after the creation of Russia. And Novgorod was a republic, there were princes there too, but they were subject to the ruling council (parliament), which a person without a title could enter. If Novgorod had won the war, Russia would have been a republic back in the 15th century. The white-blue-white flag is the flag of Novgorod.
A little more history about the Russian flag.
The white-blue-red flag was created in the 18th century as a trade flag and was installed only on merchant ships, it was not a national flag. The first national flag was a black-yellow-white flag, adopted by decree of Emperor Alexander the Liberator in 1858. In 1894, Nicholas 2 changed the flag to white-blue-red. Although the white-blue-red flag is older, but the first official flag of Russia is the black-yellow-white flag. Before 1858, only the golden cloth banners with a black double-headed eagle were used.
The most insulting thing is that Emperor Alexander the Liberator was the most liberal ruler in the history of Russia, he abolished serfdom, banned the death penalty, began writing the constitution and began to create a parliament. In general, his ideas were too liberal for that time. But he was killed by terrorists and did not have time to implement all the reforms. The throne was supposed to pass to his eldest son, who was as liberal as he was, but the heir died in Italy during an illness. As a result, his middle son Alexander the Peacemaker inherited the throne. He was nicknamed the peacemaker because there was no war under his rule, but his internal policy was dictatorial. He canceled all his father's liberal reforms, executed people for dissent, repressed other peoples, planted religion and many others. And now its black-yellow-white flag is used by the Nazis, although it represents freedom and democracy.
С ЧЖБ вообще история смешная, ибо его используют нацисты-имперцы. Они хотят построить национальную империю. Это буквально как коммунистический капитализм.
В Новгороде никто не мог править без титула, там была олигархия. И этот флаг не имеет никакого отношения к Великому Новгороду.
CIA?
Russia: can I copy your homework?
Belarus: sure, make sure you change a bit so the teacher doesn't notice.
Russia: *it's OUR homework!*
I know quite a lot of political context of my country and i want to warn you: this isn't a protest flag. It doesn't bear national meaning that white-red-white has for Belarus. It's hard to explain the entire history of Russian Opposition movement, so i have to put it short: Untill 2011 opposition movement in Russia split in 2 branches: SysLib (Systemic Liberals) who supported "soft reforms" and Off-system opposition: (nationalists with other small groups) who supported overthrow. Needless to say, Putin's nomenclature were much more brutal to Off-system. Alexei Navalny - the most importand figure in Russian opposition originaly came from nationalists, but as there were less and less of them alive or unimprisoned, he started to work with SysLibs more. By the 2019 Navalny is imprisoned himself and with that Off-system opposition is crushed completely. As expected, repressions turn on SysLib wing and it migrates alltogether. There are a lot of Off-system oppositionists in immigration as well, but nowhere near as much as SysLibs and they don't have political connections and voice. Consider: Same people who said "North Korea is better than revolution" in 2011-2019 now coming up with new flag for Russia, new sanctions for people(not nomenclature) and counting how much do they want to take from people who are already impoverished by Putin. I do admit that i myself associate with Off-system, but my allegiance isn't for no reason: SysLibs are to blame for brutal crush of Bolotnaya protest in 2011. This is why i think that White-Blue-White is an anti-national flag. If you want to know more, you'll have to listen hard - People who tell this story have a very quiet voice.
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Now imagine what the Swiss flag would look like without the color of blood and war
Japanese flag
@@Who_110 Then the Japanese flag would just become a French flag
@@xleplex7070 Not just Japan, many countries will also surrender after being bloodless🤣
Kinda reminds me of the Russian liberation army emblem.
Kinda of a bad PR
That's what I thought too.
Nothing bad about Patriots of Russia rejecting Stalinism.
@@kevinwarburton2938 Patriots of Russia that were burning their own villages and were literally a part of the SS? No thank you.
@@kevinwarburton2938 *War criminals that loved to kill their own people
@@kevinwarburton2938 except for the "fighting for nazi germany" part