@@ToolsandTargets Seriously I agree. My 'min' is an M85 cause sometime pocket is necessary. I just don't know if I want to invest that much into 380, since all I really have are 9/38/357sig (and mag) and 45 really. 380 was always the hardest for me to find too. But that S&W + HST is a nice combo. Does the S&W fit better in pocket than an M85? I find the butt of the revolvers of J size tend to want to sneak out the top of the pocket lol.
I carry 380 probably 50% of the time, I have zero reservations. Glock 42 and LCP Max with Underwood HP +P and Federal Punch. I like super lite carry guns pretty much forgetting I'm even carrying.
@@Totttty55 I guess it depends on your pants. I wear Duluth Trading Company pants 95% of the time, both for my uniform and casual. They have nice deep pockets that accommodate a pocket carry pistol.
Firearms and ammunition manufacturers have really stepped up their games lately. Thanks to TOOLS for all the testing he does for us, fantastic channel.
Also surprised as 380 HST's haven't tested this well previously but some of the HST rounds seem like they have been changed somewhat when the sealant color on the primers were changed to blue along with an updated box design also noticed a headstamp change on the 9mm when the sealant color and box changed. Perhaps some rolling updates that aren't being advertized ?
The Federal HST is the pinnacle of HP bullet design. Beyond that the future of bullet design lies in solid copper rounds like the Underwood XP and XD rounds or the Fort Scott TUI round.
Thans for testing this in the 2.0 bodyguard, it's my new pocket carry. Glad to see that 380 development has given us some really good options. HST is expensive, but it seems like in most cases it proves to be consistently worth it. Punch seems to be hit or miss in some calibers and barrel lengths, so while it's a good budget option, I always pay for the HST as carry ammo.
That's interesting. I can't say that I recall any hit or miss with the Federal punch. I believe it uses a harder lead so it generally penetrates deeper while not opening to the degree of the HST but what I've seen, the Punch works GREAT in 9mm., .40, and .45acp. Now the .38+P Punch? I have seen that choke. But the others? Not so much at all.
The combination of Federal and the new Bodyguard forces one to rethink a 380. At the least it would give someone more confidence in what they carry. 👍😎🇺🇸👊
@@deejayimm Do you have problems with your Ruger and surface rust? All of mine rust daily. I've had a few gun manufacturers guns and only Rugers do that.
I bought a Bodyguard 2.0 and fired over 500 rounds through it, including: HST, Hornady XTP, Hornady CD, Gold Dot, Sig V-Crown, Underwood Extreme Defender +P and Penetrator. Of the 500 + rounds through it, the only malfunctions were with the HST. No ball has been fired through it yet. The malfunctions are 100% ammo related. The two malfunctions were failure to go into battery. I buy all of my ammo by the case, and I've already fired 500 of these HST out of G42s before testing it in the Bodyguard. There is no problem with the ammo. I removed the barrel from the Bodyguard and a G42, and I found that the size of the nose of the HST causes it to fit snugly in the Bodyguard's chamber, to the point when I press in the rear of the case, the rounds are snug and won't fall out when the barrel is inverted. This did not happen with any other ammo I tested. In the G42 chamber, there is slight play and the rounds fall free when the barrel is inverted. I actually have several G42 and tested this in three of them, and there were no sizing issues. For carry, I have switched to the 68gr Extreme Defender +P, and I have full confidence in the Bodyguard 2.0 with that ammo.
I just bought the Bodyguard 2.0 and have plenty of boxes in both the HST and Punch. Glad to see I won't have a concern with either one I decide to carry.
My wife has a Bodyguard 2.0. Fired 20 rounds of HST with no problems. Round 21 loaded but jammed the gun solid. Rounds 22 & 23 fired. Round 24 jammed the gun a second time. Has fired about 250 rounds of Federal FMJ and 25 rounds of Critical Defense with no problems. I use HST in my P-365-380.
From a less than 3" barrel, that's great performance. Considering the quality of steel available today, the, in many pistols, more robust designs, SAAMI should do some testing and show some +P .380 numbers.
Good test, great performance from the 380. Thank you for taking the time. Because many carry 380, having you testing these projectiles for all is a real benefit to the rest of us. It may require more than one application of said projectile to dissuade a miscreant with ill intent, but that's why 10 round pocket tools exist.
Tools, great content as always. Both of these Federal's peformed very well out of the short barrel Bodyguard 2.0. You've tested the SIG V-Crowns in the past, but I think it was just gel, no clothing barrier. It's laughable some of the comments that infer the .380 is an anemic round as if its closer to a .22lr than to a 9mm. As for a summer pocket carry firearm when your wearing shorts and a tee shirt, .380 is king unless you wear clown pants and want to haul around at least 60% more weight. When the temperature drops and IWB carry is the norm, then ditch the .380 for whatever caliber you prefer, but .380 is very popular for a reason.
380 IS closer to 22lr than 9mm. 150 ft lbs is closer to 65-75 ft lbs than it is to 350-420 ft lbs bud. 380 isn’t necessarily anemic but it’s not even close to 9mm in terms of performance.
Finally time to switch from FMJ to one of these Federal. Been carrying LCP Max with FMJ for a while since I never saw any good reviews of defensive ammo. This stuff is what I'm after. Great test, sir.
Agreed. Way back when shootingthebull410 was doing similar vids, he did a series of “roundups” in the various calibers and it was the most informative at the time all rolled up into a series, then the combined showdown at the end. Tools has better tech (though STB410 was very thorough with what he had), but modern ammo, and a much bigger data set, on all the stuff that has come out in the decade since then.
@@twistedfocus"AMMO QUEST!" Shootingthebull410 was one of the first channels I watched to get an idea of the performance of various defensive ammo offerings. He's 410/45LC Lehigh Defense ammo test was great.. "Freddy Krueger Bullets" Glad Tools&Targets keeps the ammo test videos coming.
There are many quality, perfectly functional .380acp rounds available. Personally, I use Critical Defense, Gold Dot, and Golden Saber. HST is great, too.
I knew this test would be a good one and it didn't disappoint. Good expansion, good penetration. I'm still carrying some older Gold Dots in my 380. My 380 is not a primary carry but I do tend to carry it more in the summer.
Punch was the winner. Three-quarters the energy and recoil, but it penetrated further, expanded comparably, and unlike the HST had full expansion all around, which suggests more reliability in expansion. Expansion like that HST suggests that at these velocities some will expand more or less, sometimes it might expand poorly or not at all. And then Punch is cheaper than HST, right? I'd say we have a winner here with Punch. This might be the best expanding .380 ACP round I've seen tested, and the deepest penetrating one that actually opened up (deeper than any XTP I recall) but I'm not convinced its better than non-expanding rounds (Xtreme Defender, etc.) Maybe it is! When I carry .380, I'll have to make a choice of what bullet technology to rely on. Thanks for testing and posting the video!
Thank you for the awesome test. Brazilians now are restricted to use 380acp and 38spl for self defense because of new gun regulations. This 380 tests are really important to us. More magtech tests will help us a lot.
Been awhile since I watched any of your videos. Glad to see you're still making content and playing around with my favorite caliber, .380 ACP. Thinking about getting the Walther PD380 sometime down the line.
That new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 seems to be a really good pistol - I may get one. Both of these rounds did great so either one could be a replacement for the Critical Defense I carry in my Ruger LCP Custom. It's hard to fund defensive 380 ammo which expands consistently and penetrates. Thanks for another informative video.
Man....Federal has been killing it with the consistency of expansion and general performance. I never expected to see this out of a 380. I won't be carrying it anytime soon, but might actually consider it now for my recoil-sensitive kinfolk.
They’re gonna be scratching their heads a little though, trying to find the skeletal remains of this battle. “It looks like one guy against an army and somehow he missed every shot.”
Looks like a pretty good choice in 380 but I’ll keep my Underwood +P 90gr XTPs. They always top 1150fps out of my Sig 365 and function like the gun likes. It won’t run ammo under under 900 fps but, the 365 is big for a 380 and I’ve got an optic on it as well. I’ve been watching since the beginning and I’m rooting for you to hit 100,000 subs brother. I leave your playlists running in the background when I’m loading and share you videos. You’ve created a great database for everyone’s use.
I bought the Hst 99 grain, for the LcpMax. Thank you for excellent test and review. Now Im sure Chose the right ammo. Keep up doing great informative videos!!
Probably one of the best performing 380 tests I’ve seen. Like that the HST is heavier but the punch would be my choice. Run HST in my 9’s and ball in my 380. Might need to rethink the 380 after this. Thanks for the jelly test Tools!
I'm as surprised as you and the others are by these results. Don't have a 380 anymore but I'd definetly used the punch if I did. Thanks for taking the time to do this test for us, you are the ammo test man to go to. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.
Tools, I'm shocked how deep the penetration was and thank you for using the new Bodyguard 2. I have been hoping you would test it. I'm thinking about getting it next summer once it's been out for a year. Normally I like 9mm or 38 Spc +P, but it's hard to discount 380 in the south during summer months.
I've never been one to carry a .380 unless it's a necessity, but my little Bodyguard 2.0 has been changing my mind. Such an easy little pistol to carry and with 350 rounds through it so far it has really impressed me with the accuracy and reliability. It's loaded with the Federal Punch when it leaves home. :)
@@ToolsandTargets yeah mine was accurate and the soft shooting part was amazing, but after so many FTFs (most of which were in partially full mags) I let it go, I may revisit the model in a year, like I did with the PSA Dagger, I waited til they Ironed out the bugs, now I'm at well over 2k rounds in 2 diff guns, no issues
Frickin perfect.. just got home and opened a beer. Edit: you also reminded me that my .3hatey is in the car. NEVER LEAVE YOUR FIREARMS IN YOUR VEHICLES!!
I carry a .40 for its ability to penetrate material or a variety of barriers. But this video has me thinking a .380 might not be a bad choice for summer carry. Thanks for the honest review.,
Just picked up a kahr p380 too. Can't wait to take it out for a spin. Imho the jhp I would choose is punch or Hornaday xtp or maybe fed hydrashok. California laws are weird and unfair. No underwood ammo available sadly. But the ones I mentioned should get the job done I think
Come on Tools...some more 380 defense ammo tests from the new bodyguard...very relevant for all of us new bodyguard 2.0 owners...we are getting faith in this little "pocket fighting gun"
When I went to my local Rural King yesterday for .380 SD ammo they had Punch, HST and Critical Defense. The punch was a bit less expensive than the HST and quite a bit less than Critical Defense. I have a box or two of Punch, already, but until I saw this video when you first did it I wasn't sure about it. Because of your test I bought a box of Punch with confidence and saved a few bucks - which was good as I also needed 9mm, .357 Magnum and.44 Magnum ammo. So, thanks!
I recently got a bodyguard 2.0 for easier handling on walks in baseball shorts and what not. Ilove these new reviews on ammo with the 2.0. I am going with underwood Xtreme defender and Ballistic Machinist Interceptor to get the best out of both worlds in a double tab situation!!!
I am glad to see .380 ammo coming into its own finally. As you've noted, usually it's limited energy transfer and it just keeps on going or it opens up good and wide and stops way too shallow. These look like .380 might finally be getting the attention it has needed. It's a round with enough power but challenging make work ideally.
I love watching your videos ! I think you should shoot at least 2 shots each at the gel . Can you please redo the 380 HST with more than one shot ! Thanks keep up the great job 👍
Another superb test, Tools. I am now going to do some Bodyguard 2.0 shopping - see if a dealer will take a couple of long guns in trade. If it works out, I know which ammo to get. Your tests are the BEST!
The lab radar is legit. Love the videos and keep it up! Do you think to see some more rifle ammo testing/comparisons. Going back through your video history has me thinking there's some rifle ammo we can test in the gel and with the new lab radar
Another excellent video! Personally, other than .22LR, I've been steering clear of Punch if HST is also available. Both are absolutely excellent and if choosing either, you've made a great choice. It's just the HST always seems to have the edge between the two.
@@Chemical_Recon_M93A1 typical gun shop b.s. of them just not working because people were hating on Remington, I believe due to the owners son taking over or them being bought out, I can't remember. Hey if it works, it works. My lcp 2 so far sucks ass so I gave my og version 1 to the gf because it actually works. Lemons happen, even with fancy pants manufacturers. Stay safe!
@@MilesLong556x69 yeah I carry my 380 everyday. Every time I leave the house even in my own yard. I usually pocket carry it. I do have an ankle holster too, as a backup gun.
Great test and really good results. Thanks for revisiting the 380 ACP with your new S&W. It'd be good revisit many other loads out of you new S&W. 380 ACP is a great summer carry round.
Both these rounds surprised me, I expected good penertration but not more then 10inchs of penertration. Wow this is a good test, I personally carry fmj in my 380 backup as I don't have any 380acp HST or Punch in my end of the world
I made sure to look you up specifically. TH-cam isn’t putting your vids in my feed, despite me being a sub and regular viewer that has never 👎🏽 any of your vids.
Would be nice to see a consistency test, shooting an entire box of each to see if they all perform the same way and stay reliable. Perhaps instead of wasting the first rounds with just velocity tests, you can go straight to the gel test while measuring velocity to save ammo.
This re-establishes my faith in carrying a 380, before all I would carry were FNJ in a 380, I need to find me some HST or Punch as I have a couple of 380's that are both nice 380's
I carry the poem to my Taurus G3 9 mm handgun I bought the Taurus a long time ago I bought the punch rounds and 124 grain the only problems I’ve had with it with a Taurus G3 is sometimes they don’t wanna feed right when I chamber around right away but sometimes if you put just a little bit of boil around the bullet casing and wrap your slide they pull the slide all the way back and let it fly forward really fast it’ll chamber it just fine I’m thinking about switching maybe this year to a different
I too was surprised as I am just upgrading from the old Bodyguard to the New Bodyguard 2.0. Just a it bigger, but it still pocket carries and the added capacity and sweet trigger is worth it.
It's "which Federal pocket round should you carry around town" jelly time You never fail to impress with your lines, T&T. Also stoked that you reviewed the XRG from s&b. I'm buying some of those real soon because of you.
Since both my wife and daughter have grip issues, they carry a Shield EZ in .380 so I’m very keen on these tests. So far, we’re going with Sig V-crown.
This is the first time I've ever considered carrying a .380. Thanks for this video!
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@@ToolsandTargets Seriously I agree. My 'min' is an M85 cause sometime pocket is necessary. I just don't know if I want to invest that much into 380, since all I really have are 9/38/357sig (and mag) and 45 really. 380 was always the hardest for me to find too. But that S&W + HST is a nice combo. Does the S&W fit better in pocket than an M85? I find the butt of the revolvers of J size tend to want to sneak out the top of the pocket lol.
Cause yall sleep on 380
I carry 380 probably 50% of the time, I have zero reservations. Glock 42 and LCP Max with Underwood HP +P and Federal Punch. I like super lite carry guns pretty much forgetting I'm even carrying.
@@Totttty55 I guess it depends on your pants. I wear Duluth Trading Company pants 95% of the time, both for my uniform and casual. They have nice deep pockets that accommodate a pocket carry pistol.
Firearms and ammunition manufacturers have really stepped up their games lately. Thanks to TOOLS for all the testing he does for us, fantastic channel.
Also surprised as 380 HST's haven't tested this well previously but some of the HST rounds seem like they have been changed somewhat when the sealant color on the primers were changed to blue along with an updated box design also noticed a headstamp change on the 9mm when the sealant color and box changed. Perhaps some rolling updates that aren't being advertized ?
This one surprised me a little. They performed better than I expected. Thanks Tools.
Same here.
It surprised me as well. Two .380 rounds successfully passing back-to-back. Federal knows how to make defensive ammo. 👍
The Federal HST is the pinnacle of HP bullet design. Beyond that the future of bullet design lies in solid copper rounds like the Underwood XP and XD rounds or the Fort Scott TUI round.
Same. I expected less.
@@Buttery_Cat Appreciate that!😎👊
This is the best channel on this subject, thank you for all your great content.
Thank you sir.😎👊
Agree-100% 👍
Haha. The timing is impeccable. Picked up new bodyguard 2.0 380 and was looking at both these rounds yesterday. Couldn’t decide so got both. 👍🤣
That’s an awesome pistol! I love mine
Haha same here. When you can't make up your mind just get both
Wow! Both are very impressive! Let’s go for the little 380!
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It's nice to see a couple of rounds that perform out of small carry short barrel pistols.
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Thans for testing this in the 2.0 bodyguard, it's my new pocket carry. Glad to see that 380 development has given us some really good options. HST is expensive, but it seems like in most cases it proves to be consistently worth it. Punch seems to be hit or miss in some calibers and barrel lengths, so while it's a good budget option, I always pay for the HST as carry ammo.
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That's interesting. I can't say that I recall any hit or miss with the Federal punch. I believe it uses a harder lead so it generally penetrates deeper while not opening to the degree of the HST but what I've seen, the Punch works GREAT in 9mm., .40, and .45acp. Now the .38+P Punch? I have seen that choke. But the others? Not so much at all.
The combination of Federal and the new Bodyguard forces one to rethink a 380. At the least it would give someone more confidence in what they carry. 👍😎🇺🇸👊
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I got the ruger lite 380 15 capacity the mrs think it’s bulky it’s a perfect pocket rocket for me really going hmmm 🤔
I've had no problem with the LCP Max.
It's reliable, comfortable to carry, and I shoot it pretty well even at 25yds.
The 2.0 looks even better though.
@@deejayimm Do you have problems with your Ruger and surface rust? All of mine rust daily. I've had a few gun manufacturers guns and only Rugers do that.
Keltec's do to that's why I just bought a kahr about 24 hours ago ran Winchester flat nose through it ran like a champ so far so good 😊
I bought a Bodyguard 2.0 and fired over 500 rounds through it, including: HST, Hornady XTP, Hornady CD, Gold Dot, Sig V-Crown, Underwood Extreme Defender +P and Penetrator. Of the 500 + rounds through it, the only malfunctions were with the HST. No ball has been fired through it yet. The malfunctions are 100% ammo related. The two malfunctions were failure to go into battery. I buy all of my ammo by the case, and I've already fired 500 of these HST out of G42s before testing it in the Bodyguard. There is no problem with the ammo. I removed the barrel from the Bodyguard and a G42, and I found that the size of the nose of the HST causes it to fit snugly in the Bodyguard's chamber, to the point when I press in the rear of the case, the rounds are snug and won't fall out when the barrel is inverted. This did not happen with any other ammo I tested. In the G42 chamber, there is slight play and the rounds fall free when the barrel is inverted. I actually have several G42 and tested this in three of them, and there were no sizing issues. For carry, I have switched to the 68gr Extreme Defender +P, and I have full confidence in the Bodyguard 2.0 with that ammo.
I just bought the Bodyguard 2.0 and have plenty of boxes in both the HST and Punch.
Glad to see I won't have a concern with either one I decide to carry.
Wow, 15" and complete expansion is not what i expect from a .380. i may have to start carrying my LCP 2 again 😊
Not too shabby.
I carry HST in 380 and 9mm and 45ACP. I guess you could say I'm sold on HST. Great test, thanks!
Glad to see you running the bodyguard, i need a reminder of what to put in it.
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@@natjonestower3035 underwood 90gr +P XTP
My wife has a Bodyguard 2.0. Fired 20 rounds of HST with no problems. Round 21 loaded but jammed the gun solid. Rounds 22 & 23 fired. Round 24 jammed the gun a second time. Has fired about 250 rounds of Federal FMJ and 25 rounds of Critical Defense with no problems. I use HST in my P-365-380.
From a less than 3" barrel, that's great performance. Considering the quality of steel available today, the, in many pistols, more robust designs, SAAMI should do some testing and show some +P .380 numbers.
Good test, great performance from the 380. Thank you for taking the time. Because many carry 380, having you testing these projectiles for all is a real benefit to the rest of us.
It may require more than one application of said projectile to dissuade a miscreant with ill intent, but that's why 10 round pocket tools exist.
Tools, great content as always. Both of these Federal's peformed very well out of the short barrel Bodyguard 2.0. You've tested the SIG V-Crowns in the past, but I think it was just gel, no clothing barrier.
It's laughable some of the comments that infer the .380 is an anemic round as if its closer to a .22lr than to a 9mm. As for a summer pocket carry firearm when your wearing shorts and a tee shirt, .380 is king unless you wear clown pants and want to haul around at least 60% more weight. When the temperature drops and IWB carry is the norm, then ditch the .380 for whatever caliber you prefer, but .380 is very popular for a reason.
380 IS closer to 22lr than 9mm. 150 ft lbs is closer to 65-75 ft lbs than it is to 350-420 ft lbs bud. 380 isn’t necessarily anemic but it’s not even close to 9mm in terms of performance.
Finally time to switch from FMJ to one of these Federal. Been carrying LCP Max with FMJ for a while since I never saw any good reviews of defensive ammo. This stuff is what I'm after. Great test, sir.
If I had a 380, I would have gone with the Leigh High extreme defense or penetrator rounds instead of FMJ. -- get the hydrostatic shock.
Appreciate that.😎👊
I just picked up my bodyguard! My Max is officially retired! I was planning on using ball, but then I watched your vid! You’re always there for us! 💪🏿
It would be great if you made a video with all of your fave rounds in different calibers from the past year.
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Agreed. Way back when shootingthebull410 was doing similar vids, he did a series of “roundups” in the various calibers and it was the most informative at the time all rolled up into a series, then the combined showdown at the end. Tools has better tech (though STB410 was very thorough with what he had), but modern ammo, and a much bigger data set, on all the stuff that has come out in the decade since then.
Damn, great idea! Or even just a play list would be stellar.
@@twistedfocus"AMMO QUEST!" Shootingthebull410 was one of the first channels I watched to get an idea of the performance of various defensive ammo offerings. He's 410/45LC Lehigh Defense ammo test was great.. "Freddy Krueger Bullets"
Glad Tools&Targets keeps the ammo test videos coming.
There are many quality, perfectly functional .380acp rounds available. Personally, I use Critical Defense, Gold Dot, and Golden Saber. HST is great, too.
I knew this test would be a good one and it didn't disappoint. Good expansion, good penetration. I'm still carrying some older Gold Dots in my 380. My 380 is not a primary carry but I do tend to carry it more in the summer.
Amazing 380 results. Perfect caliber for Florida summers.
Punch was the winner. Three-quarters the energy and recoil, but it penetrated further, expanded comparably, and unlike the HST had full expansion all around, which suggests more reliability in expansion. Expansion like that HST suggests that at these velocities some will expand more or less, sometimes it might expand poorly or not at all. And then Punch is cheaper than HST, right? I'd say we have a winner here with Punch.
This might be the best expanding .380 ACP round I've seen tested, and the deepest penetrating one that actually opened up (deeper than any XTP I recall) but I'm not convinced its better than non-expanding rounds (Xtreme Defender, etc.) Maybe it is! When I carry .380, I'll have to make a choice of what bullet technology to rely on.
Thanks for testing and posting the video!
Thank you for the awesome test. Brazilians now are restricted to use 380acp and 38spl for self defense because of new gun regulations. This 380 tests are really important to us. More magtech tests will help us a lot.
no need for mag tech tests- everything mag tech makes sucks. wouldn’t buy anything of theirs except for fmj range ammo.
Been awhile since I watched any of your videos.
Glad to see you're still making content and playing around with my favorite caliber, .380 ACP.
Thinking about getting the Walther PD380 sometime down the line.
Appreciate you checking em out!😎👊
Thanks Tools,....That BG 2.0 seems to be a very cool tool!
That new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 seems to be a really good pistol - I may get one. Both of these rounds did great so either one could be a replacement for the Critical Defense I carry in my Ruger LCP Custom. It's hard to fund defensive 380 ammo which expands consistently and penetrates. Thanks for another informative video.
Man....Federal has been killing it with the consistency of expansion and general performance. I never expected to see this out of a 380. I won't be carrying it anytime soon, but might actually consider it now for my recoil-sensitive kinfolk.
Ya know, in a hundred+ years from now if somebody is ever using a metal detector out there, they'll think there was a battle went down in that area.
You aint kiddin. Tons of lead, brass, and steel.😆
They’re gonna be scratching their heads a little though, trying to find the skeletal remains of this battle.
“It looks like one guy against an army and somehow he missed every shot.”
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They will follow and ring that b3ll, carry HSTs, and keep testing
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Great video! Actually had both in my cart and couldn’t decide which to go with. Everything else equal, punch is cheaper and the way to go for me.
Looks like a pretty good choice in 380 but I’ll keep my Underwood +P 90gr XTPs. They always top 1150fps out of my Sig 365 and function like the gun likes. It won’t run ammo under under 900 fps but, the 365 is big for a 380 and I’ve got an optic on it as well. I’ve been watching since the beginning and I’m rooting for you to hit 100,000 subs brother. I leave your playlists running in the background when I’m loading and share you videos. You’ve created a great database for everyone’s use.
It's good to know that your SIG likes the+p xtps👍
I bought the Hst 99 grain, for the LcpMax. Thank you for excellent test and review. Now Im sure Chose the right ammo. Keep up doing great informative videos!!
Just got a bodyguard 2.0 a few days ago and I have this ammo pretty confident in this carry
You've had some very good results from a handful of .380 ACP ammo, which is good to see from modern manufacturers
Probably one of the best performing 380 tests I’ve seen. Like that the HST is heavier but the punch would be my choice. Run HST in my 9’s and ball in my 380. Might need to rethink the 380 after this. Thanks for the jelly test Tools!
I'm as surprised as you and the others are by these results. Don't have a 380 anymore but I'd definetly used the punch if I did. Thanks for taking the time to do this test for us, you are the ammo test man to go to.
Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.
Tools, I'm shocked how deep the penetration was and thank you for using the new Bodyguard 2. I have been hoping you would test it. I'm thinking about getting it next summer once it's been out for a year. Normally I like 9mm or 38 Spc +P, but it's hard to discount 380 in the south during summer months.
I carry the Punch in my Bodyguard 2.0, glad to see it’s expanding out of the 2.75”
Impressive! I am interested to see more Bodyguard 2 content.
I've never been one to carry a .380 unless it's a necessity, but my little Bodyguard 2.0 has been changing my mind. Such an easy little pistol to carry and with 350 rounds through it so far it has really impressed me with the accuracy and reliability. It's loaded with the Federal Punch when it leaves home. :)
The 380 is underrated but has stopping power above of what its ballistics indicate.
HST is my usual choice when I carry my .380 Thanks for the review, keep the 380 stuff coming!
I was about to declare the Punch a feather- weight and then it knocked me out! Great test Tools. Federal obviously knows what theyre doing.
Nice to see your pistol is still behaving
So far, perfect. Super accurate for a tiny little gun too.
@@ToolsandTargets yeah mine was accurate and the soft shooting part was amazing, but after so many FTFs (most of which were in partially full mags) I let it go, I may revisit the model in a year, like I did with the PSA Dagger, I waited til they Ironed out the bugs, now I'm at well over 2k rounds in 2 diff guns, no issues
Frickin perfect.. just got home and opened a beer.
Edit: you also reminded me that my .3hatey is in the car. NEVER LEAVE YOUR FIREARMS IN YOUR VEHICLES!!
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Haha same it's 5 oclock!
Good to see short barrel expansion! Thanks for the info!
Can't go wrong with either! If I had to pick, the HST of course! Both good stuff! 💥💥
The man with the plan 🎯🔥 Keep it up with the Bodyguard 2.0 testing
I carry a .40 for its ability to penetrate material or a variety of barriers.
But this video has me thinking a .380 might not be a bad choice for summer carry.
Thanks for the honest review.,
Absolutely love my bodyguard so lightweight in my pocket with a sticky holster
Me too! Love mine
Just picked up a kahr p380 too. Can't wait to take it out for a spin. Imho the jhp I would choose is punch or Hornaday xtp or maybe fed hydrashok. California laws are weird and unfair. No underwood ammo available sadly. But the ones I mentioned should get the job done I think
Come on Tools...some more 380 defense ammo tests from the new bodyguard...very relevant for all of us new bodyguard 2.0 owners...we are getting faith in this little "pocket fighting gun"
I'm about to get the 2.0 how do you like it?
Found it at $370 + delivery ($20)
@hmdwn love mine!
When I went to my local Rural King yesterday for .380 SD ammo they had Punch, HST and Critical Defense. The punch was a bit less expensive than the HST and quite a bit less than Critical Defense. I have a box or two of Punch, already, but until I saw this video when you first did it I wasn't sure about it. Because of your test I bought a box of Punch with confidence and saved a few bucks - which was good as I also needed 9mm, .357 Magnum and.44 Magnum ammo. So, thanks!
I recently got a bodyguard 2.0 for easier handling on walks in baseball shorts and what not. Ilove these new reviews on ammo with the 2.0. I am going with underwood Xtreme defender and Ballistic Machinist Interceptor to get the best out of both worlds in a double tab situation!!!
I am glad to see .380 ammo coming into its own finally. As you've noted, usually it's limited energy transfer and it just keeps on going or it opens up good and wide and stops way too shallow. These look like .380 might finally be getting the attention it has needed. It's a round with enough power but challenging make work ideally.
Good to see some love for 380. You can't go wrong with Federal. Thanks for the test . 😎
Nice performance from both. I carry the HST in my G42 3.25in barrel and continue to have confidence, and now in the lighter grain Punch. Thanks.
Love the 380 tests. Keep up the excellent videos! Thanks for all your work on testing real world ammo.
I've always carried the hst 99 grain in my bersa thunder. Great round
The 99gr HST is all I carry in my little p3at. I trust it to get the job done, and based on what I've seen here, that trust is well placed.
I love watching your videos ! I think you should shoot at least 2 shots each at the gel . Can you please redo the 380 HST with more than one shot ! Thanks keep up the great job 👍
HST 99gr is what I carry in my BG2.0. Nice video, thank you sir.
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WOw, did way better than I expected.
Maybe Punch and HST is perfect ammo for the Bodyguard.
GJ Federal and S&W.
I really enjoy your tests very entertaining
I tell new gun owners, when in doubt run HST, they just seem to work no matter the caliber. Thanks!
The 380 HST in the 50 round LE box is supposed to be loaded hotter than the 20 round micro version, the 50 box is rated at 1000 fps
Phenomenal performance, especially for a .380.
Another superb test, Tools. I am now going to do some Bodyguard 2.0 shopping - see if a dealer will take a couple of long guns in trade. If it works out, I know which ammo to get.
Your tests are the BEST!
The lab radar is legit. Love the videos and keep it up! Do you think to see some more rifle ammo testing/comparisons. Going back through your video history has me thinking there's some rifle ammo we can test in the gel and with the new lab radar
Appreciate that. I do have a ton of rifle/carbine testing to do. This crazy hot weather makes it tough but supposed to be colling off a little, soon.
Another excellent video! Personally, other than .22LR, I've been steering clear of Punch if HST is also available. Both are absolutely excellent and if choosing either, you've made a great choice. It's just the HST always seems to have the edge between the two.
Wow 380 that actually opened !
Get some for my Remington RM380.
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Does your Remington actually work? Serious question not being a turd
@@MilesLong556x69 Yeah. Got it new, six years ago, at Bass pro shop for $175 bucks using a rebate and a sale. What problems have you heard about em ?
@@Chemical_Recon_M93A1 typical gun shop b.s. of them just not working because people were hating on Remington, I believe due to the owners son taking over or them being bought out, I can't remember. Hey if it works, it works. My lcp 2 so far sucks ass so I gave my og version 1 to the gf because it actually works. Lemons happen, even with fancy pants manufacturers. Stay safe!
@@MilesLong556x69 yeah I carry my 380 everyday. Every time I leave the house even in my own yard. I usually pocket carry it. I do have an ankle holster too, as a backup gun.
Appreciate the demonstration. Good results for the little caliber & gun. Not a bad option with either for our 380 brethren. Thank you.
Great test and really good results. Thanks for revisiting the 380 ACP with your new S&W. It'd be good revisit many other loads out of you new S&W. 380 ACP is a great summer carry round.
Thanks for doing your .380 testing out of the 2.75” barrel
I carry ruger security 380. After watching your videos I decided to go with underwood xtreme defender.
Great test Tools ! 380 is underated with good ammo like this , i run the HST in my max and dont feel underpowered at all .
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Both these rounds surprised me, I expected good penertration but not more then 10inchs of penertration. Wow this is a good test, I personally carry fmj in my 380 backup as I don't have any 380acp HST or Punch in my end of the world
The punch did great. It's at my local cabelas. I just bought a little Taurus TCP 738 and will carry that if it works well in it.
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I made sure to look you up specifically. TH-cam isn’t putting your vids in my feed, despite me being a sub and regular viewer that has never 👎🏽 any of your vids.
I was a little nervous about the speed of the Punch but it did great
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Both would be great choices for 380acp if that is what you chose to carry. Appreciate you Tools. 🇺🇸
Would be nice to see a consistency test, shooting an entire box of each to see if they all perform the same way and stay reliable. Perhaps instead of wasting the first rounds with just velocity tests, you can go straight to the gel test while measuring velocity to save ammo.
This re-establishes my faith in carrying a 380, before all I would carry were FNJ in a 380, I need to find me some HST or Punch as I have a couple of 380's that are both nice 380's
That is extremely impressive for a 380
Federal Punch and HST are awesome. Especially in +P. Both 9mm and 45acp.
Federal has a winner with both of these rounds. I've ran the Punch in .38 Special and the HST in .357 Magnum. Both performed well.
Ok I’m off the fence now. Both of those did pretty good. The trick is if I can find them. Good test thanks.
You know how I feel about HSTs, and the S&W 2.0 is the best 380-APC that I have seen so far, Thanks Bro-B, see ya soon! 👍🇺🇸
I carry the poem to my Taurus G3 9 mm handgun I bought the Taurus a long time ago I bought the punch rounds and 124 grain the only problems I’ve had with it with a Taurus G3 is sometimes they don’t wanna feed right when I chamber around right away but sometimes if you put just a little bit of boil around the bullet casing and wrap your slide they pull the slide all the way back and let it fly forward really fast it’ll chamber it just fine I’m thinking about switching maybe this year to a different
For a 380 they did great, thanks for this test
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I too was surprised as I am just upgrading from the old Bodyguard to the New Bodyguard 2.0. Just a it bigger, but it still pocket carries and the added capacity and sweet trigger is worth it.
Better than expected for sure
That little pistol is pretty impressive in hand how small it really is with that capacity certainly changes deep carry
Man I'm glad you did this test. I have a DB 380 and wasn't sure if there's any ammo that would do good in it!!!
Glad to see the Smith and Wesson 2.0 with this ammo. That's my planned next tool to pass on to my daughter. Thanks for the test! 👍
Not bad stuff! Thanks Tools!
My edc is a cz83 full metal jacket rounds, mainly because it baffles most people. Thanks for the info
It's "which Federal pocket round should you carry around town" jelly time
You never fail to impress with your lines, T&T. Also stoked that you reviewed the XRG from s&b. I'm buying some of those real soon because of you.
Since both my wife and daughter have grip issues, they carry a Shield EZ in .380 so I’m very keen on these tests. So far, we’re going with Sig V-crown.
Love the EZ.
Tools would you please test 380 Gold Dots out of the Bodyguard 2.0 and EZ?