Enough Difference To Make a Difference?...TUI vs FMJ .380 Auto Ballistic Gel Ammo Test & Review!

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  • @01MeuCanal
    @01MeuCanal หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The only problem of TUI is that sometimes it doesn't tumble, but when it does it seems very efficient. I like them.

  • @danlindgren4290
    @danlindgren4290 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    If I lived in a no lead, no hollow point state, and Extreme Defenders were also banned, I would move. If I couldn’t, I’d pick TUIs over FMJs.

    • @PJ_Perry
      @PJ_Perry หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Im on my second move due to gun laws left massachusetts in 2018 moved to RI they just passed mag bans and such an now moving to NC .... 😂

    • @painmt651
      @painmt651 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PJ_Perrygo west young man!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂

    • @patrickstone4125
      @patrickstone4125 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danlindgren4290 - there is fluted composite ammo available.

    • @angrysheepdog9744
      @angrysheepdog9744 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In 380 FNJHP is the next best thing

  • @3rdpig
    @3rdpig หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Love the PH quote, that became one of my favorite quotes of his. I only carry a 380 when I require really deep concealment, which is rare now that I'm retired, but I carry FMJ in them when I do.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you sir.😎👊

    • @garysarratt1
      @garysarratt1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We are the judge.

    • @jacksavage7808
      @jacksavage7808 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      .FMJ for me in the winter. Summer you might get by with a hollow point due to lighter thinner clothing.

    • @usernamesrlamo
      @usernamesrlamo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I carry .380 all the time with Underwood +P hollow points.Nasty stuff.

  • @rmax2
    @rmax2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I like the Killdozer shirt bud!...as for the ammo, not bad but I'll stick with the Underwood Xtreme Defender 👍

  • @TTime685
    @TTime685 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That initial wound channel from the TUI was pretty impressive though for 150 ft lbs..

  • @ronaldbarnes8302
    @ronaldbarnes8302 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Carry the TUI in my micro 380 as I don’t trust HP’s in the mouse gun. Best case they tumble and create more damage. Worst case they perform like ball. Like the penetration of the TUI’s in your test. Thanks for the jelly test Tools!

    • @alexz5336
      @alexz5336 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You should look into the xtreme defenders from underwood.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie หลายเดือนก่อน

      IMHO , 8302 . That is very sound logic .

  • @patcr606
    @patcr606 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Doesn't over penatrate like ball, more likely to tumble, feeds well, and low recoil it has its place

  • @UncleFjester
    @UncleFjester หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My .380 was an ankle holster for when I ride Motorcycles, Sold it So I don't see carrying the .380 anytime in the future.
    I got pulled over by the police, showed him my CHL, he asked what and where I'm carrying. I told him and he asked "what was I gonna do with that? Put an eye out?"
    We both laughed and I got a warning

    • @tonyrebel63
      @tonyrebel63 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A little humanity goes a long way. Unfortunately some just use the badge to bully people. I am now retired from law enforcement, and I still have those who were released back into society thank me for being kind while others may have turned away from their needs.

  • @chazzy1237
    @chazzy1237 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Love the .380 videos! I carry fmj in my Bodyguard 2.0.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    thanks

  • @rangetime6779
    @rangetime6779 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for testing 380 ACP. I don't like to rely on tumbling as it is nondeterministic. 380 Speer 90 grain Gold Dot for the win.
    Please keep testing the 32 ACP.

  • @daily4020
    @daily4020 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thank you for showing how top level performance is not in TUI. I did get some of this a while ago but not in 380. Great work done here.

  • @orpheus280
    @orpheus280 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    TUI is a masterclass in marketing. People hear that rifle rounds do a lot of their damage from tumbling, so they see a pistol round that does the same thing and assume it creates rifle wounds.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Exactly

    • @RNagy-ke4se
      @RNagy-ke4se หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Only good thing about them is the solid copper. Better at penning soft armor but I think liberty civil defense would be a better option for both armor pen and effect on target

    • @SteveKerr-o8m
      @SteveKerr-o8m หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only some rifle rounds tumble and that’s only after hitting the target

    • @tormentorxl2732
      @tormentorxl2732 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I believe the hype came from their 9mm being capable of penetrating level 2 and some level 3a soft armor panels.

    • @patrickstone4125
      @patrickstone4125 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I've heard some states don't allow HP ammo. This is where TUI, might shine. I never carry less than a 9mm, so this isn't a useful test for me. But I'll look into it.

  • @louieHuelsman
    @louieHuelsman หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    TNT keep it real and the reason why we all love ya is cause u tell us ur thoughts and sometimes ur wrong but not often n it would be so easy to just test off camera n always be RIGHT!!
    But thanks for NOT doing that cause it makes u Human like all us watching!!!!
    Always a bunch to learn n the equipment u got is the best so TU Y’all!!!!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate that, brother.😎👊

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree with you completely. I've seen this design tested many, many times and it just isn't consistent in its tumbling performance.

  • @nctheo
    @nctheo หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Your experience with gel and explanation for the effect we see with tumbling bullets is much appreciated. We see this with 22mag and it's interesting to hear your opinion about the significance of the relatively large gel splitting. BTW, I confess to freqently jumping ahead to jelly time.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂 Better to jump ahead than not jump at all!😎👊

  • @NewWorldDisorder1
    @NewWorldDisorder1 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Retest with the fmj spooned. File a flat spot on the fmj bullet nose at a 45 degree angle from the tip. Brass fetcher did this back in the day and the video was banned from TH-cam

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah they call it manufacturing ammo. 😆

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@ToolsandTargets manufacturing vs. modifying... or as you could call it severe polishing

    • @NewWorldDisorder1
      @NewWorldDisorder1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsandTargets ????

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NewWorldDisorder1 YT considers it a no go.

    • @NewWorldDisorder1
      @NewWorldDisorder1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ToolsandTargets Land of the free, my @$$ 😆

  • @44Mag
    @44Mag หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That temporary cavity, known as stretch cavity, does not completely represent the human body. However, it does reflect how the round can disrupt the organs with shock energy.
    In the Army, I saw people hit with a .50cal
    One I saw was a direct hit in the belly-button area at about 100 meters, and it severed the torso from the waist, nearly completely (It basically exploded the target).
    I saw the same round impact in a lower arm, and it severed it. In the shoulder, it totally incapacitated the target, but did not separate any parts.
    The round in the belly that severed the torso, was due to that temporary stretch you are seeing. The gel gives an idea, but it has a lot less stretch resistance than the human body does. However, when you put enough energy into the soft tissue, it will certainly have a severe and catastrophic result.
    The lesson learned then was, - when you needed the target down for sure, send a round from the Ma-Deuce.

    • @buzsalmon
      @buzsalmon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @44Mag I was thinking about the initial shock and disruption in gel compared to the human body.
      Agreed, too bad good guys don't carry around an M2. That's the same concept to me, at least for carrying the 45acp rather than the 32acp

  • @squarewave808
    @squarewave808 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tools, I think the takeaway from these videos is that .380 is simply a marginal performer in the very best of circumstances. People keep trying to make it into something that it’s not, and ammo companies are happy to play along.
    Also: thanks for dropping that Paulism at the end of the video.

  • @SteveM-426
    @SteveM-426 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I concealed carry a Taurus Spectrum. FMJ is the Only round I use. Never found anything Better for .380 out of a Short Barrel. Thanks Again for Saving Us Money! Great Video!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      😎👊

    • @mikewallace8087
      @mikewallace8087 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Really Steve ? What is your empirical evidence ?

    • @SteveM-426
      @SteveM-426 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikewallace8087 What part of ( "Never found anything Better for .380 out of a Short Barrel" ) did you not under stand? If you know something worth trying I'm all ears? Take care, Steve.

    • @mikewallace8087
      @mikewallace8087 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SteveM-426 You conceal carry , your evidence should be empirical as in you defended yourself and shot an aggressor.
      How else would you know the FMJ bullet is good for the concealed firearm purpose?

  • @farmerbob7585
    @farmerbob7585 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    T&T…you’re consistently the best online source for reliable reviews and recommendations. Great channel!!!

  • @KevinPlemons64
    @KevinPlemons64 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That stink bug wasn't even phased by that TUI. Lol. He stood his ground and didn't retreat.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He was like "Oh, it's just a .380."🤭

  • @jessjosh4119
    @jessjosh4119 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched a video of a guy taking a black bear with the fort Scott's TUI and it dropped in its tracks but he was also using a 16 inch barrel but a 300 pound black bear dropping with a single 380 round is impressive

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was it from a HiPoint .380 carbine?

    • @Bulldawg44
      @Bulldawg44 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@russellweber3466.. has to be.. who else would make a 380 16 in barrel monkey contraption

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bulldawg44 How high were you posting this gibberish? Have you seen any utube videos of shooters using .380 HiPoint carbines, they are quite handy.

  • @William-n1b
    @William-n1b หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Temporary cavitation by a bullet moving slower than 2200 fps does little damage in living tissue. That’s why center fire rifle cartridges are so much more effective than handguns.

  • @Raptor-gd6sk
    @Raptor-gd6sk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video great info.. I just got my first .380 pistol.. Thanks for sharing

  • @D-A-1776
    @D-A-1776 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the bodyguard 2.0. My favorite 380 pistol

  • @TruthGotGunz
    @TruthGotGunz หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dude you’re my favorite TH-camr right now 😂 hands down! Man I appreciate this video you have no idea! You’re 2/2 back to back on ammo I just purchased 😂 ok, are you willing to test underwood jhp 458 socom? 300 grain? Or a series of TUI ammo from 5.56, 300 blackout, 9mm, 10mm? That TUI has replaced the ammo some LE here in NC were using.

  • @cgsimons1187
    @cgsimons1187 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A depth of 17.5" is within the 12" - 18" acceptable window for typical defensive purposes. Thanks for measuring the length of these TUI and comparing them to the FMJ since that is relevant with a bullet that is designed to tumble. It was also nice that you fired more than one of these TUI into the gel to see if they are consistent. These TUI do seem weak. Though appear to be a better choice than FMJ.

  • @raybo34
    @raybo34 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great test. I'd rather have a flat nose FMJ or some +P hollow points. I've been sitting the same Gold Dot 380s for a while now. I rarely carry my 380. Elastic waist band, run to the store carry is about it.

  • @BenitoAltamirano-o5s
    @BenitoAltamirano-o5s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 10mm fort Scott and I love it it sounds like 44 magnum on my g20 gen3

  • @mikebott6940
    @mikebott6940 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would much rather lean on the dependable options of Sig V Crowns, or Buffalo Bore or Underwood overpressure rounds. Xtreme Penetrators feed fine in a Cheetah, but jam 1 out of 3 times in an LCP

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Good test, no surprises. Many years ago, an acquaintance used a PPK .380 to defend herself from an abusive husband, very abusive. FMJ's, 6 rounds, six through and through. He still dang near got her before enough blood loss for him to collapse. It showed me the relative ineffectiveness of FMJ in .380. All those hits were torso hits, 12 holes. Sure, eventually they worked, but not quickly. The new designed bullets with the fluted noses are the way to go if you use anything with a less than 3.5" barrel. You've shown us proof of concept in that. Just so you know, FMJ is just a hole punch, particularly in the shorter barrels. If it makes the perps run when hit, it's better than a prolonged conflict, but fooling yourself into thinking it's a one shot stopper in the torso might give you a worse day.

    • @usernamesrlamo
      @usernamesrlamo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Study after study shows .380 has basically as much one stop incapacitation, fatality rates and average number of rounds fired as 9mm and 45acp. It always comes down to shot placement more than caliber. And perhaps that is why .380 is on par, because good shot placement is easier.

  • @tedcollins4684
    @tedcollins4684 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both look ok to for what they are to me. Thanks for 380 jelly time. Very well done! Stay safe.

  • @rico300zx
    @rico300zx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video as usual love watching the different 380 ballistics

  • @LGB-FJB
    @LGB-FJB หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So few TUI testing. Glad to see you do it and show that it isn't "all that."

  • @semichiganandy2127
    @semichiganandy2127 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the test. That collision was really interesting. I bought some of these a while back on a spur of the moment decision. I guess I wasted some money.

  • @kayok07
    @kayok07 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up the bodyguard and your out here doing the Lords work and testing ammo on this pistol keep it up buddy love the content

  • @ReubenOaks84
    @ReubenOaks84 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Fort Scott TUI has some specific situations where it performs well, except for these smaller calibers, like going through barriers or light armor, like their 80gr +P 9mm. Their 5.56, along with other rifle rounds can go through barriers and still have effects on targets.

  • @tonyrebel63
    @tonyrebel63 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tools thanks for shooting this video. Lately I have been using some 380 tools. They are spicy and nice.

  • @JimD410
    @JimD410 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They did a ok job. When I carry my lcp I carry just fmj FN. I was thinking about getting a box of these or the Lehigh defender.

  • @abones900
    @abones900 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think I'll stick with my Extreme Defenders in my PPK/s. Good to know this stuff is out there, though!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That reminds me I haven't shot my PPK in a while.

  • @williamclark755
    @williamclark755 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, but I am not a .380 fan. Enjoy all your ammo test!🤠🦅🇺🇸

  • @ericbergfield6451
    @ericbergfield6451 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool looking bullet that rearended the TUI

  • @380master9
    @380master9 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brother, respectfully this has been requested since I don't know two years ago lol thank you

  • @l.a.3887
    @l.a.3887 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always I don't fool with the 380acp for carry

  • @bradlichtenberg4107
    @bradlichtenberg4107 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another great video. didn't really need the heavy repetitive negative comments. keep up the good work!

  • @jimt1240
    @jimt1240 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always enjoy watching even when i don't have it and ain't gonna get it. 💥

  • @madczechoutdoors1088
    @madczechoutdoors1088 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never used 380’s but have used 6.5 Grendel and 10mm with great results.

  • @oubliette862
    @oubliette862 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it's not as easy as it looks picking spots and hitting that spot on a gel block. I'm amazed I haven't hit my chrono yet. nice shooting dude. I just got a 380 or will when the ffl guy opens Monday.

  • @arthurhaskins891
    @arthurhaskins891 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favorite people on TH-cam! Great videos.

  • @switcheyephotography5722
    @switcheyephotography5722 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If shot placement is important so that you hit the vitals that you're aiming at why forfeit that post impact accuracy to a tumbling bullet?

  • @MidWesternShootingEnthusiast
    @MidWesternShootingEnthusiast หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally I definitely prefer the Xtreme defender projectile compared to the TUI. For most calibers I still would prefer a good hollow point over either. I do keep one backup mag for my 10mm XDm elite 3.8 loaded with the Underwood Xtreme defender 100 grain in the off chance I needed to defeat soft body armor (highly unlikely), or a hard barrier.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      XD for .380 is a solid choice for sure.

  • @380master9
    @380master9 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Told you they perform as advertise and deliver results

    • @380master9
      @380master9 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brother, that round has killed countless grizzly bears. Look at the videos

  • @whatsup24_7
    @whatsup24_7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sweet, I've been wondering about this ammo

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It goes bang.🤷‍♂️

    • @whatsup24_7
      @whatsup24_7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ToolsandTargets the TPU is supposed to create a big wound channel. I wasn't impressed by it's performance.

    • @johnw4999
      @johnw4999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whatsup24_7can’t judge performance in living tissue w clear gel. Mostly compare performance of other bullets shot in a similar manner to each other. Case in point, when I worked investigations, most of the time, rounds stayed in the body including FMJ from 9mm and .380. One guy was shot in the eye (literally), and fell on the 9mm casing. The round did not exit his head or cause any deformation. One guy was shot in the throat with a .380. The bullet broke and lodged in his spinal cord. Honestly, one is better off to carry a .40 or larger, but the .380 and 9mm certainly will “work.”

  • @williamsoutherland9087
    @williamsoutherland9087 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video, TNT. Thanks for putting in the work. Unfortunately, it seems the debate will continue as to what to run in a .380. Unless you can run Gold Dots, (my personal opinion). I bought the Bodyguard 2.0, probably because I am a little bit of a sucker. Don’t get me wrong, it’s great, and as they say, that dog will hunt. But, with options like Shield Plus, Sig 365, 43x, Hellcat and so on, I can’t figure out why I would ever carry the 2.0 over them. So, in practical terms, for me the best 380 round is a 124 grain 9mm Gold Dot. Know what I mean?

  • @kerino1
    @kerino1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tools - thanks for holding your nose, and giving these 380 tumblers a go.
    I usually don't root against ammo going into the gel test, but found myself doing so today 😂😂😂
    Definitely saving my money on the TUI, and holding out hope if the pocket pistol ever does get deployed, we get maximum penetration. Two holes for the price of one would warm this miser's heart! 😂

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done. Many thanks. Interesting option. Not sure about these.

  • @JJ_SDWR
    @JJ_SDWR หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good test Tools. I'll stick with Underwood 90gr XTP +P.

  • @quoththeraven7
    @quoththeraven7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have that exact same gun, and I love it. And I heard you say that you'll only run FMJ's if you carried it. But what kind of FMJ's?

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Flat nose if I ran fmj. If I had them on hand, I would probably run the Underwood +P Extreme Penetrators or Defenders over anything else in .380, I just wouldn't go looking for em if I already had fmj on hand.

  • @agsosj14
    @agsosj14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man what a great video! Just picked up a box last week . Perfect timing. Glad I got them

  • @louieHuelsman
    @louieHuelsman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    U can tell it’s the weekend cause everyone is busy n haven’t watched yet!!!
    But tonight as they lay in bed you will c more members n comments!!!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lot of folks hit hard by the hurricanes too.

    • @louieHuelsman
      @louieHuelsman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True that n family members!!!

    • @louieHuelsman
      @louieHuelsman หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have to go T money!!!

  • @russellweber3466
    @russellweber3466 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be curious to see what those rounds would do in a .380 carbine like a HiPoint carbine or in a .380 Makarov.

  • @wessburch8522
    @wessburch8522 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. I’ll be grown up enough to admit I was curious. Did I believe it would be great? Nope, I was still curious

  • @garrettschienschang7898
    @garrettschienschang7898 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the total reference.

  • @travissmith2211
    @travissmith2211 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My concern with TUI and the RIP rounds are that they have the possibility of tracking away from the intended internal target. If you place a perfect shot, how possible is it that the bullet would deviate once inside the soft tissue?

  • @gunguy8348
    @gunguy8348 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s cool 380 is getting new designs it’s the easiest to carry

  • @davidjakiela9553
    @davidjakiela9553 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's some bad ass hat Harry

  • @Yetified_Mayhem
    @Yetified_Mayhem หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Lots of worthless ammo for sale. Appreciate your work and saving us our hard earned $$$.

  • @sammyprestwood3182
    @sammyprestwood3182 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a factory made keyho round not my first choice thanks tool for the video

  • @thePrussian
    @thePrussian หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How does the TUI round behave when it actually hits a “living” target?

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did Paul Harrell ever do a meat-target test with these rounds?

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Like a bullet.🤭

    • @thePrussian
      @thePrussian หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregb6469 I believe he has, come to think of it.

    • @timrobinson6573
      @timrobinson6573 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gregb6469he did

  • @bigracer3867
    @bigracer3867 หลายเดือนก่อน

    380. I just can’t bring myself to get one when we have 9mm. 🎉🎉 not a fan of 380 cause of price 🎉🎉 mainly. And pistols are not much different in size to me 🎉🎉. Thx for video though. 🎉🎉

  • @Kracviking
    @Kracviking หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd stick with FMJ just cuz of costs, though perhaps something zippier

  • @charlesmorgan1879
    @charlesmorgan1879 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's time again ! I'll stay with the mix of brands & types i have...to many car parts , lol

  • @yukon4545
    @yukon4545 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks bud!
    Love the T-shirt as well.

  • @YellowHammer26
    @YellowHammer26 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍Thanks Tools. If I used 380 I wouldn’t pay extra to use those over fmjs.

  • @DerWaidmann_
    @DerWaidmann_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm surprised it didn't over penetrate, I might consider carrying these

  • @theturkeysopinion
    @theturkeysopinion หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video TNT! I wonder about this all the time in all the calibers but .380 for sure👊👊👍👍

  • @PJ_Perry
    @PJ_Perry หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was always under the impression that gel test show what happens to the bullet not what the bullet does to the gel .. lol but who knows ..like its a decent way to see how a bullet might react to hitting someone .. but idno its interesting either way lol

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's definitely best used to compare round performance against others. It's gonna give you a general idea of what to expect as far as penetration and energy transfer, but guts are gonna behave differently when it comes to the "disruption."

    • @timrobinson6573
      @timrobinson6573 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're correct. Gel tests measure projectile expansion and penetration. Examining the wound track is like reading tea leaves.

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@timrobinson6573 except 2 and 4 legs have bones which change the entire thing

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know, Tools. That kind of penetration seems pretty solid. The TUI temporary pressure cavity seems... substantial. Maybe this is a pretty good little self defense round even from a short-barreled .380?

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They poke holes.

    • @timrobinson6573
      @timrobinson6573 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The penetration is good but temporary pressure cavity are three words you just put together that don't mean anything beyond what you made up in your mind. It's not a real thing.

    • @warbuzzard7167
      @warbuzzard7167 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timrobinson6573 and your qualifications as a ballistics expert are…

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As Paul would say. You decide. Thx.

  • @GreyShooter
    @GreyShooter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This TUI isn't reliable. I've got HST 99 grain in my BG 2.0. When they're gone, then Winchester FP FMJ. Good test, Tools. You save folks their hard earned money. 😎👍🇺🇸

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Winchester flat point fmj is what I would use for fmj. I almost used that for this test but figured the round was a closer match to the TUI.

  • @adamrodgers2377
    @adamrodgers2377 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for doing all of these tests !

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😎👊

    • @adamrodgers2377
      @adamrodgers2377 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsandTargets 🤙🏻👊🏻🤓

  • @shawthackston9723
    @shawthackston9723 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another interesting test Tools. Keep up the good work sir!

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate that, brother!😎👊

  • @jacksavage7808
    @jacksavage7808 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will check it out.

  • @147CombatMedic
    @147CombatMedic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not enough difference to make a difference if not differentiating the difference of the different price... 🤔😂
    Thanks for the vid!
    💥👍💥

  • @johnkellmer5133
    @johnkellmer5133 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might use that round in my GP100, but it does not feed or behave well in my LCP Max.

  • @Judge102
    @Judge102 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If i had to choose an fmj type round it would be something like the Underwood Extreme Defender.

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My sentiments exactly, thank's for your time & effort. 👍🇺🇸

  • @petee454
    @petee454 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting test. 380 really isn't my thing. I am just barely comfortable using 9mm. I cannot convince myself to go to 380.

    • @jefferythibodeaux9676
      @jefferythibodeaux9676 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ageed

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've gotten so used to carrying the G29 10mm all summer that I could never feel good going to .380.

    • @petee454
      @petee454 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsandTargets Yup! You know me with 45acp. I definitely want to get a 10mm sometime soon. Hope all is well. Be safe. Have Fun

  • @chuckappel
    @chuckappel หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Have you done any tests with flat point 380 fmj bullets? Something like a truncated cone perhaps?

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've done a couple in the past. Flat nose is what I would personally run, but I figured the round was a closer match for these.

  • @jeffreybean5363
    @jeffreybean5363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video Tools 👊🇺🇸

  • @jasonkeating9958
    @jasonkeating9958 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would happen if a 147 9mm fmj was loaded into a 380 would it be a similar result without needing a copper bullet,
    Also I just think these solid cooper rounds both tui and extreme defender rounds produce phantom wounds in gel that don't replicate in flesh.

    • @williamgaines9784
      @williamgaines9784 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be really slow. The bullet would take most of the powder capacity.

  • @Kycirion
    @Kycirion หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep. The very first thing I thought when I saw these was overpriced FMJ.

  • @phillipnesmith2698
    @phillipnesmith2698 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that I'll stick with the Underwood 141.

  • @randlerichardson5826
    @randlerichardson5826 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s faster than I figured Tools on both of them rounds but a hole in the vitals is a hole no matter how we look at it.

  • @Gieszkanne
    @Gieszkanne หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that it has the same bullet weight and velocity as the normal fmj shows that it have to tumble more than the regular with more penetration.I would at least prefer it over regular fmj. 17 inches is no over penetration. I think its a good option but expensive. Than I would rather take some of these philips screw driver solids. They do tumble also (high speed camera) and because of the shape causing more tissue damage.

  • @TheJames0227
    @TheJames0227 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tui succeeded in performance and i believe it would cause more damage. also take note of the different length of projectile, can also make a bigger tumble. choosing it over other ammo would be arguable.

  • @cecilnewman666
    @cecilnewman666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boomerang gelly time!

  • @Brandi6666
    @Brandi6666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ATF trying to dumb down an already weak cartridge. But i would still carry because it makes it thru enough to hit a vital organ🤷

  • @danielleclare2938
    @danielleclare2938 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FMJ is the most durable affordable reliable best penetration in anything. Perfect for the .380. Lead is my favorite. 200 gr out of a 38SW is gonna make a dent in something. Rambling sorry. Thanks for the show.

    • @ToolsandTargets
      @ToolsandTargets  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know a thing or two about rambling.😂