Sung Ji Hyun vs Carolina Marin | WS F Match 2 - Yonex German Open 2015
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Very disappointed in Marin's unsportsmanlike attitude and disrespectful behaviour to her opponent and court officials. Screams aside, she repeatedly neglected the umpire's request to show due respect to Sung and return the shuttle to her, once, twice and she continues to ignore his warning. When Sung had hit the net with the shuttle (not the racket), Marin abusively protest to the umpire with intention to influence his decision for an over-rule in favour of herself. This match was very difficult to watch as for many spectators due to the politics involved... apart from the action we would like to see players respect each other as professional athletes. I would hate to be in the position of Sung who has to endure all this and has shown great professionalism throughout and not complaining about Marin (which in some points I would). Marin is a World Champion and is a role model for many so she should know better. There needs to be a dividing line of winning and the way to win it. She may have won World Champs, and Sung hasn't? but at least Sung shows good sportsmanship who gives 100% for every match and point. I believe the umpire saw the importance of this issue and made the right decision in the end...
+lemon thunder bird i couldn't more agree with you. sport is not only about the winning thing but the way you win it is important as well.
"When Sung had hit the net with the shuttle (not the racket)" Except Sung did touch the net with the racket before the shuttle hit the floor, it's a fault. Marin does have a point there.
The problem is not only screaming. Marin very often doesn't pick up the shuttle when she ought to. Even when she picks it up, she just sweep it over very rudely (sweep is ok, but does it rudely is not ok), or she just place the shuttle far far away from the center of the court for the opponent. And She not only does it once or twice, but many many times. Never seen a player with such bad manner.
OMFGItsTheManBearPig Show me the video
D Wu IGUAL EL ARBITRO DANES (DENMARK) ESTABA ENVIDIOSO DE CAROLINA QUE LE HA GANADO A LA JUGADORA DANESA TODOS LOS PARTIDOS. OTRO AMARGADO COMO TU
winning with skill and tactics, that is what everyone would like to see. not screaming to win, i call it a pitiful to win in such a way
honestly, it serves her right and that's a real umpire for me who got balls
Carolina is a great player but there's no need to scream like a psycho bugged out girl, she needs to behave herself
if Marin wants to take time to rest after the rally, the best way is to learn from Lin Dan diving and then sleeping for a while.
And on another note, I don't think it's a wise decision to let the umpire's microphone be turned on if the umpire is talking to a player (what Gillian Clark is hoping for). I do understand her frustration, but the umpire is hereby also protecting the player's integrity, which to me is a good cause.
@jonaloin very good catch! I thought so too. Currently there's only hawk-eye for line calls but not replay for net calls right?
They should get her to play Lin Dan. See if she dares open her mouth against the grandmaster
Good umpiring. It's such a pity though: Marin is an excellent player and especially in Europe we need players that can be a terrific ambassador for our sport, as badminton isn't by far as popular as in the Asian countries. Without those antics, she would bring so much more joy on and off the court.
How one game can change a persons career and perception..shame on marin
Very good umpiring
When happened the cards?
i always wonder if it is not too dark and if this lightsand shadow it impacts players...
without skills, you cant win the tournament.. but without good attitude, you cant win the skills and tournament..
Marin's face @1:24:57 tho
29:16 Marin reprimanded about not returning the bird swiftly
Marin also had a trouble with the umpiring in AUS open 2014 against Saina. And yet again, about the scream, but that time was Saina screaming before the call was made by the line judge. Please BWF, pass some rules about screaming.
Very interesting finals, congrats to both Sung Ji Hyun and Carolina Marin. Winning is about control and unfortunately Marin lost control as the game progress.Like to see Marin play again with complete control and hopefully she will win.
WATCH THIS MATCH >>>BITBURGER BADMINTON OPEN 2014 - SF | WS C Marin [1] (ESP) VS Yu Sun [4] (CHN) AND HEAR WHAT THE GAME COMMENTATOR SAYS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE GAME >>. AND YOU ALL DECIDE
love the drama
first time seen such a drama, better than the series drama on video...hehehe
Why only 2 read cards? Should give her 2 3 4 5...red cards
成公主以前的步伐很輕鬆，年紀還是有差。
Love the commentator ^_^
After hearing Carolina Marin, I totally feel Sharapova's shouting was a lot more amusing. God, if I did not want to hear the commentator, I would have muted this video.
I love Marin
I know 2 Red card mean black card (disqualification).. why Marin not given black card ??
Marin could be such a good ambassador for badminton in Spain (only 7000 badminton players I once read) and the rest of Europe. But she is an arrogant player, shouts a lot, even shouts when an opponent falls and could be hurt, her face expression is very unpleasant. Although her style is efficient it is not smooth, it looks clumsy, not nice to see her play in style and as a person.
Is it just me or at 35:15, Sung's racket touched the net before the shuttle touched the floor?? Watch it in slo-mo..
+wyk1w2w3w No I mean AFTER Sung hit the shuttle, her racket touched the bottom of the net. Look at the bottom of the net, it moved a little..
The shuttle already touched floor first
I can't stand Carolina Marin. I know that her screaming is legal, but it gets very old and annoying. It kills me because its always when her opponent makes an error, not like she earned a hard fought point or anything. She was waisting soo much time also, she deserved what she got.
agree :)
screaming too way out just to intimate yr opponent i dont really agree. Play with skill to win, is what everyone would love to see. Frm my point of view, if she gain a point she can scream but when her opponent makes a mistake she also scream. it show that what kind of sportmanship? a pity if every player do that. Win with skill and tactics is what we called well deserve winning
Gosh Marin is so annoying. Her screams is seriously no joke and i found it very irritating. No wonder why many people dislike her. Skill is nothing without attitude. She deserves the red cards. I hope she could learn and try to be better in her manner. The way she delivers the shuttlecock to her opponent was terrible. She thought she is the greatest player or something? She is so cocky and arrogant. If she couldn't fix that side of her, trust me, she will be gone too soon.
FACT : 4 years later she still annoying!
I was wondering if Marin's coach actually had warned her not to scream to that extreme, or?? I don't know. I just don't think screaming can make you win honorably. patience can.
배드민턴 경기에서 빨간카드 받기 어려운데...얼마나 태도가 불량하면
17:47 umpire speaks to
Marin about delay of play
49:19 Marin gets yellow card for delay of play / misconduct
1:09:03 red card for misconduct
thanks to Carolina to make the ws less boring...
Thanks for that comment, exactly my view. The old guard from China, Indonesia and Danish have not made the game expand, it is same old same old, especially the women, they are totally characterless.
Jeffrey Swartz maybe yes, but enough with the screaming from a horror movie
Now sung is ASYs coach … and we see how’s that going for Marin lol
nobody picked the ball at last and one of the players just swept it aside!
What the heck is that, Marin? --> 1:20:50
Rude player will do rude thing
Marin is foul. One day an opponent is going to smash her in the nose (please). I look forward to watching her play with a sore throat
marin is a great playing but her screaming should be stopped now
看了那麼多年比賽就屬瑪琳最沒球品，比超級丹還糟糕100倍，每當輸球就很隨意把球給別人，有球品的做法則是放到對方當前分數的位置。
不過目前女單方面很難有人能跟她抗衡，畢竟球風比較偏向男性，很希望快點有強悍點的女性選手跟她抗衡，很愛吼叫也有點囂張…
在迪拜被奥原希望打傻了
小戴已出現
她已經不是小戴的對手了
Marine don't shake a hands...
Should have been carded for screaming her head off.
LONG before now.
Learn the rules, shouting is legal. After a point, and for a smash. Otherwise never during a point where it could distract a player. Thankfully people like you do not make the rules, or the game would be even less popular in the West than it is now.
Jeffrey Swartz who gives a fuck about your west or east its about how you represent yourself and how you impress your crowd. FYI people like you makes the game lame and annoying. lol what's the point of playing the game so popular you don't even enjoy playing or watching.
please ...save the strength for the match instead screams for every points...
Her yelling is so annoying and unprofessional. BFW should take a tougher stance on these issues...
She is totally no respect to the game and her opponent. No matter how good she plays in this sport, she is not the world champion if she doesn't change her behaviour.
Why did she get the second red card?
Because she didn't ready quickly..
Because the ref wanted to be the star of the final instead of letting the players. He chose the key moment in the third set and gifted the final to her rival. If I were watching that, and had paid, I would have asked the ref to pay for my ticket.
i think the second card was pretty unfair... marin was trying to recollect herself after the first red card which is why i think she took a bit longer to receive.. but ref didn't care.
it's VERY annoying to watch Carolina Marin's games. She demonstrated how rude can a badminton player be！
Carolina Marin has poor sportsmanship. She doesn't deserve to be world champ. Well... I think it'll be down hill for her from here on.
Hello! I am Spanish, and I think Carolina Marín is an incredible player, currently the best European woman, but today she wasn't herself. Usually Carolina is very respectful with referee and the other players, because the scream isn't disrespectful, It's a manner to celebrate the points and intimidate the opponent, and she can do it if she feel comfortable. Today she had a bad day and has already apologized.
I'm so proud of she, and I hope to she continue winning tournaments around the world. ¡Viva España y muy grande Carolina!
I do have a problem with her scream. It is a huge distraction to the other quiet players, it is not fair to the others.
Sung is doing the same as a response. What a bad behaving woman, Marin.
I think it is not just me, a lot of people here do HATE her behaviour.
@Javier Vila Omg, can you be more of an hypocrite..?
She has NEVER been respectful of the referee and other players, precisely because her behaviour and her screaming is forced, ovedone and plainly unsporting. (screaming 2/4 times after a rally of a few seconds is one example).
Your comment is so ridiculous on so many levels: "It's a manner to intimidate the opponent" and how dare saying that as if it was normal and acceptable? how is intimidating your opponent good sportmanship? Genuinely thought a match was about who is the best player, not who is the most verbally agressive and intimidating. "she can do it if she feels comfortable"...such a disguting display of narcissistic / egocentric logic: what she feels comfortable doing is absolutely, completely irrelevant as soon as it unfairly distracts/unsettles your opponent she should refrain from doing so.
All in all Carolina Marin is the least classy player women badminton history has ever known and I feel personally deeply ashamed that she is european. I hope she continues to lose in her final events as she did in the last 5 events and get the sanctions she deserves to maybe finally start to question her poor behaviour and ethic.
apology doesn't mean Marin has learnt a lesson from this match. If she stills behaves like this match, she will never be respected by others.
screaming is ok, but not to that extend, everyone who watch the match cant stand the high pitch scream. If rely on scream to win then that is a pity to win. Play with skill to win, and that is called winning
"today she wasn't herself"
Mentira! Ella siempre se comporta así.
Ella ya se disculpó y dijo que se siente avergonzada. Yo como hispano también me siento avergonzado. Me da pena.
我是知道ˇ馬林氣燄很盛 但是同一個時間點 給紅牌 本來就讓選手很難受 再給一張 一般自尊心很高的選手 一定連打都不想打了
It appears that apart from badminton, there's not much going for her in life, to the point where she's betraying simple decency. What's the point of showing the world how great of an achievement you are if you're to spoil the image by a hostile image?
Marin red card 1:08:52
I just don't think you should be throwing red cards around unless it's for something very serious. Were talking about players livelihoods here, these tournaments are how they make their living, umpires are just volunteers and need to cut players a lot more slack.
She has been a bitch for a long time, deserves her own medicine. Her livelihood? she is her own poison.
6789Jaybird So you are saying because they way she bothered you before, the ref should recklessly red card her to make you happy? Hey, red card that footballer before the game starts, he made a bad foul last game. Incredible logic there, congratulations.
現在只有小戴能讓牠閉嘴!!
Her warcries are not very attractive, that's all :) . Very strong and effective player she is. Causing by redundant testosterone level
马琳一天到晚鬼叫 令人恶心！讨厌看马琳的比赛 希望她输
Marin Screamed too much ! I don’t like it !!:(
35:49, 40:38 etc. very sporting :-/
Yehh, she did it all the time when she return the shuttle, how rude she is?
@@jaraychumugsorn7720 all tactical, I'm sure, but unnecessary as she's talented enough to win without resorting to petty stuff like that.
marin是最沒球品的球員
Funny how all the fake badminton fans care more about shouting than talent, they refuse to acknowledge her skill or the totally improbable way she has come into the elite, out of nowhere. She is amazing, and the jealousy from the old guard is pathetic. She destroyed the world number one in the Worlds, coming back twice, when Li Xuerui did terrible time wasting in the last set, fiddling with bandages to break Marin's momentum after coming back, with no reprimand. Because the Chinese are gods, while a Spaniard is like a dog to badminton elites.
I love the shouting because she is taking on not only her opponent but the world badminton mafia, including this ref with the ridiculous picking on her, it was all about him being the star (he will certainly be reprimanded for that).
How anyone can be happy because a ref gifted a final to someone is beyond me. Badminton is where tennis was when you had to wear white, 50 years behind the times.
BTW, Marin may break two rules, and neither involves time-wasting or the shouting. One is that she seems to seek coaching, though it may be simply psychological looks, it is hard to say. If badminton wants to cut coaching out, they should move the coach further away. The other is that a player is supposed to shake hands with the opponent and ref after winning, before celebrating. This is hard to comply with as winning is emotional. The rest are bogus arguments, as the good refs show by letting her play exactly as she does best without making up excuses the help her opponents beat her.
NOBODY is talking about TALENT and WINNING or something like that.It's GREAT that an European player has won the world title (in general), and not all the titles are going to China.What everybody is talking about is her BEHAVIOR.Screaming is aloud when players know when to stop.A shout after you won a point is pretty normal for all the players, but when her opponent serves OUT and she starts screaming 3 times like she is being raped, that passes the fuckin' line! And why aren't we jealous of other players breaking into the elite? Why do you think it's only her that is being picked on? Coincidence? She isn't the only non-asian good player that beats Asians? We can see you like her, but her behavior isn't one of a professional athlete - because of her I'm ashamed that I am European.Her attitude is like throwing the raquet at your opponent.(I MEAN RUDE)
BITBURGER BADMINTON OPEN 2014 - SF | WS C Marin [1] (ESP) VS Yu Sun [4] (CHN)
watch this match!!
robert prince tks for the video...just watch and found the same issue as here...what a pity