I used to teach science in the public schools. I had a student who graduated and came back a few years later and visited. He'd been in the army learning ordnance. He pulled out his notebook, proudly, I thought, and it was bulging and crammed with information. He said, " you showed me how to take notes and its kept me alive." I was rather pleased.
This is the kind of stuff we needed to learn in school: habit forming, and chunking; how to learn, how to think, how to deal with stress and pain, taking responsibility.
Trevor touched on something that I don't think many civilians realize about the SEALs/Tier 1 community. That is the number of KIT, killed in training that happens. It is very, very realistic, dangerous training. A good friend of mine, when I last lived in Coronado, my hometown, nearly had to get out of the teams due to taking a rubber bullet to his hand. Doesn't sound too particularly bad, but these rubber bullets are small and pretty hard. It did a lot of tissue damage. Another time, this same friend of mine nearly died on a HALO jump out in the desert due to surface winds out of limits. When he hit the ground, he immediately got dragged over some rocks and into a huge cactus patch. He was in the hospital for a couple of weeks. He is no longer with us. He was a great guy and I really cared about him.
Sorry that happened to you friend man. Was his passing related to any of that ? Or was it something unrelated, sorry if to personal. Just don’t have much experience taking to anyone about combat soldiers
And also people simply killed doing dangerous, non-combat tasks in the military. Whether it's a training evolution, a hostile environment, or flat out hazardous job, it does happen. Sailors fall overboard, for example. Not super often, but it happens. Never seen again. Vehicles crash, malfunction, shit happens.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.
jon soda A) what is ‘dox?’ (I assume it a hacking type action that fucks up someones day a bit.) B) First time I’ve heard this joke. Does he ask it in this vid? (Haven’t watched it yet.) Curious to see this blokes response haha.
Humility is critical. Lifelong shooter here, and a sailor. I did my best in combat training to listen to my Army DIs on even the fundamentals, and later with my MAs when practicing. I came out a much better shooter in all regards. Firearm culture tends to breed a superiority complex where people think they are just the epitome of badassery, and always have to show off how much they know. There's always 10 people better than you at any given action, but most importantly, once you think you have the ultimate answer, you stop yourself from learning anything else. That kills.
The last thing you said is exactly what I tell my guys in law enforcement. There’s always someone better and hungrier than you. The minute you forget that is the time you’ll get yourself or someone on your team hurt or killed. Train like your life depends on it because it does!
As a Marine that was in Special Operation. There’s days at the range where you’re shooting anywhere from 5000 rounds to 10 thousand rounds per day. You shoot so much from so many different angles and scenario, everything becomes muscle memory.
Go and watch t Rex's arms video with the Asian guy that never shot a gun but played airsoft...Travis Hailey and grand thumb play airsoft...shooting targets is one thing but getting shot at and having to shoot back from cover is different airsoft can offer those capabilities its a lot harder with real guns even sim
Totally agree about this guy having it together and so calm. Love listening to him. He looks so innocent yet I’m sure he’s a force to reckon with being a Navy Seal.
Excellent handling of an interview. Joe Rogan just wants the guy to tell stuff. It doesn't matter if it's overseas or the whole process. He just wants conversation on something. Replying "yeah" to both questions leaves the stage open for the person being interviewed to take the conversation in a direction they want. That's the best way to get quality content from them. He does this alot and it's an excellent way to move the conversation along in an interesting direction.
I found that exactly what this guy is talking about is the truth to anything you're doing in life. Focus on those smallest details, build up front there. (Make your bed 😂) talk yourself through them relaxed. at slow speeds medium speeds high speeds, and you just keep pushing the limit. keep going this dude is seriously tapped in 👁
Unfortunately they have a massive disciplinary and behavior issue. So much so that the rear admiral in charge of all Navy SEALs has had to make a public call to return to good order and they arent well respected by Green Berets since they killed a GB when he found out they were embezzling money. They also were going to sodomize him with a mop handle. Dead serious
Bruh. U can just see in this guy's maneurisms and the way he speaks thet he has seen shit and experienced shit that 99 percent of people wouldn't even be able to handle. Much Bless to warriors like him. Regardless of what you stand on or believe in accordance to the Gov't and motives for war you have to respect people like him. Just getting through BUDS is such a ridiculous feat
It took me forever to learn how to shoot in 3rd group. We use to shoot over 8 thousand rounds. But it was all worth it. At the end of the day EXPERIENCE was the best teacher.
Fantastic that Trevor talks about building a Subconscious Habit. So many people try to teach skills as a conscious effort without making any distinction between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind, where habits are built. Any moderate research will quickly show you that the conscious portion of your brain can process 12-40 bits of information per second. Whereas estimates for the subconscious part of your brain range from 3-20 million bits of info per second.
This is the same for more than just combat shooting. The best athletes in the world, the best pilots, the best at anything will all tell you they don't think about stuff before they do it, they just react. It's pre-programmed muscle memory, they just KNOW what to do rather than having to think about it.
Joe Rogan interviews the absolutely coolest folks. Loved this man's comment at 3:56 . I had a friend (American) that served in a foreign military (long story). This is exactly what he described as his mindset.
It's called 'conditioned reflex' and is achieved through repetition. When your muscles are conditioned too react the same way every time without thinking, like throwing a ball or rock and precisely hitting you're target. When you can achieve that targeting will become much more fulfilling regardless the weapon.
Muscle memory....its why we practice reflexive firing drills and everything else in military over n over n over n over n over n over......etc.... n over n over 😂🤔✔💯🇺🇸😭
When he said that a lot of guys die overseas and a lot of guys die in training doing the right thing... most US civilians cannot recognize just how dangerous the training is. Many hard career ending injuries happen in training, myself included. I love all of our Combat Forces, the good and the bad. Reason being under the right temperament and conditions we can turn a soldier into a true warrior. Which to me transcends all nations and beliefs. Former 11B, 3rd ID DogFace Soldier till I DIE.
Easiest way to train for combat shooting. Wind sprints, fire down range, wind sprints, fire down range. Get used to feeling your pulse in your finger tips on the trigger pull. That's one small piece.
I always love the section of Frank Herbert’s Dune where it talks about how Maud’dib’s first training was in how to learn and the last part of their convo made me think of that.
I was talking about muscle memory! You train for so long that your brain doesn't even need to process the movements, it becomes second nature like breathing! That´s why he said that the brain pays attention to all other things going around you. I've learn that back in the 90s in my army days and it served me well in 2004 when deployed to Iraq as part of Multinational Specialized Unit (european countries). All I had to do was learn where the buttons wore on the new AR and it all came back!!
AndJusticeForMe The closest I have to that game now is H-Hour worlds elite on PC. Not too popular but Atleast u get to play and the people are pretty cool.
I've been in for about 10 years and the differences with weapons familiarity, conditioning, and mental strengthening was drastically different from his experience. Thankfully the types of trainings and modes they are given have changed with a complete overhaul.
They do exactly the same in the fire brigade. My friend said that he would get a call sometimes for a fire. Before a conscious thought entered his head he would be out of bed and fully dressed in his uniform. They trained every day. They had all their gear folded in exactly the same way. It was all subconscious effort. It worked.
I teach music for a living. This is exactly the concept for learning an instrument. You have to get enough hours to where instrument becomes an extension of your body. You don't want to waste any brain CPU thinking about how to operate it so that you can keep your mind on creating in real time. Pretty interesting correlation.
Blake Wurm Not sure if you’ve listened from the beginning of the episode, so I apologize if you’ve already heard this, but he’s friends with him and will be on the show soon.
Boiling things down to the utter basics in high stress situations is the key. Let your instincts help drive the way and focus on the fundamentals of what you’re trying to achieve.
It's something missing in most everyone. It's easy to look at people with less experience than us and say it, but critical thinking is not always natural, and rarely in history has it been well taught. Just look at all of the idiot adults. We all are, occasionally. And billions of people believe in some nonsense or another, from magic to conspiracies to pseudoscience to simply incorrect ideas. Learning is a lifelong struggle. I always challenge people to look around at their peers (and themselves) and really think about whether they are actually smarter/better/whatever than any other generation. Especially when we look at our younger selves. At least new generations have access to the sum of lessons learned before them.
The Military started training people after WW2 to do their job without thinking, to make it so repetitive muscle memory takes over. They did it because they did studies of battles and found only five percent of soldiers actually shot their weapon in combat. The rest hunkered down. As an example, when I was on Submarines we were running on the surface with the bridge manned. We were hit with 3 waves in a row that knocked us 60 feet under water. I was staring at a wall of water coming down the hatch in shock. A Machinist Mate came from berthing in his underwear, got under the hatch and pulled it closed. When he got the hatch closed he looked at me and two other gawkers with a look we all understood. We weren't real men or we would have closed the hatch. After every incident like this you always do a little review of who did what and what was done right and wrong. Everyone in the control room said I blew the main ballast tanks, which was exactly what I was supposed to do. But I don't remember doing it. In my mind I just froze and stared at our doom. I had no idea repetitive training took over and I did what I was supposed to do.
Sounds like sub operators for you. Crazy how much training is done and how much delegating tasks to individuals in crisis time breaks down to just good training and planning.
Alas, this is how the USS Vincennes shot down IranAir Flight 65. The radar operator was so used to his training and seeing an enemy descending to attack, he ran through it as muscle memory and the Captain ordered the release of ordinance. There is a fine line you must walk.
Its possibly a tougher fight than ever for these guys. Most conflicts are behind/in enemy lines a long way from home. Many constraints, few clear, uniformed enemy. Even poor enemies have relatively lethal weapons now (AK/RPG/SAM/ATGM/IED etc) not just bolt action rifles or simpler.
In the Army my instructors would always say. We practice over and over because we rely on muscle memory. If you have to think before you act, you're done.
Yes, my uncle was a Marine and I thought I knew guns until I lived with him. He took me shooting a bunch and was pretty much an instructor the whole time. He broke everything down all the way to how much finger I needed on the trigger and when in my breathing cycle to squeeze
SEALS and Special Operation types have a certain way about them. It's very vague and strange, yet intriguing. The Military is it's own universe. There is a hierarchy of badassery. Capability.
Takes about three gun fights for your brain to start working in the middle of a shit storm. Training helps with the mechanics but hearing bullets whizzing by and thumping into the walls or trees and maybe people around you brings a whole new dimension to the affair. Specialized training brings focus and grit into the mix. The focus is on eliminating the enemy and the grit comes in doing so while the enemy has the same goal.
What most don't appreciate is that combat shooting is radically different from range shooting, competition shooting, or hunting. According to the fbi, trained police officers, at an average range of engagement of 10' or less, miss their intended target 60% of the time. For civilians in self defense situations, the hit rate drops way further. When lead is flying up range as well as down range, shooting fundamentals go to hell for most people - even those ostensibly trained to shoot under pressure. They say that very few rise to the occasion, but everyone falls to the level of their training. I believe it.
Love how Rogan asks the perfect questions that people like Lt Col Dave Grossman has written books on, should have him brought in to talk about killing and combat he will run your head in circles
As a person who was raised shooting a lot it’s really weird to meet other grown people who have now idea how to handle a pistol or rifle or shotgun safely and effectively.
I didn't til I was 28...I handled a beginners 22 bolt action rifle n 9mm. My father was in the Army AD but he never had firearms at the house. Now I'm infantryman vet .
Yes Thankyou. sounds simple but in my experience in the military... I learned how to LEARN and LEARN fast and efficiently because if you don't... you simply don't survive.
I never shot much growing up and when I was TAD to the SEAL/SWCC Fleet Transition Program the SO's I was with said they prefer people who haven't grown up shooting because they are easier to train the right way...Their way
Remember when SEALS used to shun the spotlight? Now, every time I turn on the TV or open TH-cam there’s a SEAL talking about being a SEAL. Green Berets and Rangers gotta pick up their game, yo.
Ever since Osama, EVERYONE has been more interested and enticed by SEALS. I don't really mind them getting all the publicity. They're pretty fucking cool. Once the Green Berets get on the level of Osama assassination, I'm sure there'll be a huge spike in the interest of green berets.
@Jonathan Spier, Dick Marcinko is probably one of my favorite SEALs of all time . I've read all of his Auto biography and its one of the most best reads ever . His RED CELL Team 6, is my 2nd best read .
Very, very poignant. Remember the Military has been around since time and wars began. They do have a Training method that works ... slight changes depending on country. Some teach everything you need to know in basic trg to be able to join a unit and be of use. Others layered training ... so just enough to be a soldier, and as you join a unit, their specialties to that regiment. Everything ramping up, all the way up to tier one operators ... train and repeat to refine.
Muscle memory. Key in everything you do in life, be it plumbing, working out, combat tactics, writing etc. Even playing an instrument. Gotta train the body and mind and practice at anything you want to be successful at.
This guy is one of the coolest and most humble SEALs I've seen in an interview.
I totally agree! Seems very humble.
Dummy they still can be a loser, stupid logic there
only idiots reply to comments on youtube
Logician Divine Almighty wow you’re still mad in all these comments you low life loser hahaha
@@DYLANBROCHILL pretty much/s
"I don't know" "I shut up and listen" not things I've heard from people in a long time.
Yep! That’s the rare, *common sense* that people have been ignoring so much these days...😑👍
@@evanabbott2737 Facts! Using the senses that make sense. Getting places a lot easier and quicker, while gaining respect across the map.
Sadly people's egos take over and prevent them from learning from their own mistakes
Shut up
@@wayfarinstranger9962 edgy. 😂😂😂
I used to teach science in the public schools. I had a student who graduated and came back a few years later and visited. He'd been in the army learning ordnance. He pulled out his notebook, proudly, I thought, and it was bulging and crammed with information. He said, " you showed me how to take notes and its kept me alive." I was rather pleased.
Nice work
@Roberto Mundo I did. How often do teachers get to see the grown-up students they trained?
thank you for this story
@@Marss13z That's epic
Now I'm not trying to pick a fight but how would a remf be in danger
This is the kind of stuff we needed to learn in school: habit forming, and chunking; how to learn, how to think, how to deal with stress and pain, taking responsibility.
That's not a benefit for the government though, so don't expect to see more of that in the future.
They teach to always get a participation trophy even when you fail 😂(school)
If you didn't learn that from your parents, you're honestly fucked lmfao.
I teach at a university and we attempt to do this to varying degrees. Not the physical pain, but mental pressure
@@jazzcabbage1776 Facts.
Trevor touched on something that I don't think many civilians realize about the SEALs/Tier 1 community. That is the number of KIT, killed in training that happens. It is very, very realistic, dangerous training. A good friend of mine, when I last lived in Coronado, my hometown, nearly had to get out of the teams due to taking a rubber bullet to his hand. Doesn't sound too particularly bad, but these rubber bullets are small and pretty hard. It did a lot of tissue damage. Another time, this same friend of mine nearly died on a HALO jump out in the desert due to surface winds out of limits. When he hit the ground, he immediately got dragged over some rocks and into a huge cactus patch. He was in the hospital for a couple of weeks. He is no longer with us. He was a great guy and I really cared about him.
Sorry that happened to you friend man. Was his passing related to any of that ? Or was it something unrelated, sorry if to personal. Just don’t have much experience taking to anyone about combat soldiers
And also people simply killed doing dangerous, non-combat tasks in the military. Whether it's a training evolution, a hostile environment, or flat out hazardous job, it does happen.
Sailors fall overboard, for example. Not super often, but it happens. Never seen again. Vehicles crash, malfunction, shit happens.
Seals are tier 2
@@samuelestevez6535 some
@@IllustriousCrocoduck just seal team six
“Learn how to learn”, one of the greatest pieces of advice you could ever be told
Remember, switching to your sidearm will always be faster than reloading.
It's not call of duty, you moron
@@BUKWulfSh0t still true with real life bud.
@@brookspiano9286 I know but I'm sure u got that from call of duty or counter strike lol
@@BUKWulfSh0t no I got it from owning a handgun and a rifle and going to a shooting range in my life. It doesn't take much to see a time disparity
Zackaria De La Serna it’s a mw2 reference guy relax
Comment section always full of 5 star generals
Yon Sire Liege full of former navy seals who’ve been over seas in combat for 15 plus years
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.
Prestige master 😎
So true 😂😂🤣🤣 and even they can't shoot straight
*yeah bro but what's your KD ratio in real life?
Navy Seal: We tried a lot of things
Joe: ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉) Have you ever tried DMT?
sommi 😭😭😭😭😭😭
😂
Lmao
jon soda
A) what is ‘dox?’ (I assume it a hacking type action that fucks up someones day a bit.)
B) First time I’ve heard this joke. Does he ask it in this vid? (Haven’t watched it yet.) Curious to see this blokes response haha.
@@muntee33 Dox means finding out the target's personal info and address and publishing it online usually where a lot of people can see it.
"A lot of guys have died overseas and a lot of guys have died in training still doing the right thing."
That rung the ears.
Same here dude. He was very simplistic in how he said that so it could sink in.
Humility is critical. Lifelong shooter here, and a sailor. I did my best in combat training to listen to my Army DIs on even the fundamentals, and later with my MAs when practicing. I came out a much better shooter in all regards.
Firearm culture tends to breed a superiority complex where people think they are just the epitome of badassery, and always have to show off how much they know.
There's always 10 people better than you at any given action, but most importantly, once you think you have the ultimate answer, you stop yourself from learning anything else. That kills.
The last thing you said is exactly what I tell my guys in law enforcement. There’s always someone better and hungrier than you. The minute you forget that is the time you’ll get yourself or someone on your team hurt or killed. Train like your life depends on it because it does!
No one rises to the occasion when under stress, everyone descends to their level of training.
I like this
@@jacks3819 he didn't come up with it tho
@@Deathridaz714 no one said he did
@joecugo ok. Tom probly be like word.
Well said
As a Marine that was in Special Operation. There’s days at the range where you’re shooting anywhere from 5000 rounds to 10 thousand rounds per day. You shoot so much from so many different angles and scenario, everything becomes muscle memory.
"They're not over there airsofting"
*LARPers everywhere cry in realtime*
Joe Pople lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt😂
@@bshaw1979 th-cam.com/video/KoZZCdRIxic/w-d-xo.html
Go and watch t Rex's arms video with the Asian guy that never shot a gun but played airsoft...Travis Hailey and grand thumb play airsoft...shooting targets is one thing but getting shot at and having to shoot back from cover is different airsoft can offer those capabilities its a lot harder with real guns even sim
@@bread8609 saw it when it posted. Great video. Yes of course there is skill transfer, but I'm doing comedy here.
Hahahahaha yessssss
Totally agree about this guy having it together and so calm. Love listening to him. He looks so innocent yet I’m sure he’s a force to reckon with being a Navy Seal.
Captain Price taught me how to shoot
“Hit the targets!”
“Check those corners”
How'd a muppet like you pass Selection?
LT + RT is a simple combo
Old MW2 veteran
"Being overseas?"
Yeah.
"Or the whole process?"
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah...
Yeah..
Translation: Stop asking me questions and listen..
@@chrisnyasia7 lmao
Excellent handling of an interview. Joe Rogan just wants the guy to tell stuff. It doesn't matter if it's overseas or the whole process. He just wants conversation on something. Replying "yeah" to both questions leaves the stage open for the person being interviewed to take the conversation in a direction they want. That's the best way to get quality content from them. He does this alot and it's an excellent way to move the conversation along in an interesting direction.
chrisnyasia7 hey genius if you want an answer you have to ask a question. Bro
I found that exactly what this guy is talking about is the truth to anything you're doing in life. Focus on those smallest details, build up front there. (Make your bed 😂) talk yourself through them relaxed. at slow speeds medium speeds high speeds, and you just keep pushing the limit. keep going
this dude is seriously tapped in 👁
I would rather go to Russia for some weird medical treatment and end up a vegetable
@@MrJabez89 this is what we call natural selection ;)
You're tapped in the head
I love the phrase, we don’t teach you until you get it right, we teach until you can’t get it wrong. That’s what muscle memory is about.
That’s the right mentality for sure
It’s the lowest key, humble people that are just savages when pushed. Bad dude...
He's a punkass.
@@Twobarpsi alright internet tough guy, talk your shit then.
Twobarpsi sure Lmao until you meet him then you’ll hide in a corner.
@@Aknight292 and you're a lil bitch
@@rogerm4a1 ok "Roger" lool
That was an intense ending cut
Layne McCullough hahaha I wasn’t going to watch the whole thing but I had to after seeing your comment.
Yeah, I thought it was very chilling.
Bro for real! Lol
Hell yea. I’m fired up! Lol.
Very!! Really chilling...
Definitely needs to get Tu Lam "Ronin" on his podcast. That would be cool af
SPACEISALIE This
100%
Mike Glover would be cool too
@@someguy2393 or warrior poet. Even carry trainer.
Tu Lam is shunned by the SOF community. He doesn’t need more exposure.
"Drillers make killers"
Do the basics, do them right, and do them often. That's the "secret".
When you see navy seals they're always top quality intelligent men. I hope they never lower the standards.
I don't think they would be seals anymore if they did brother.
@@kylesmith4173 They wouldn't be respected or affective but some politically correct buffoon would see it as a good thing.
I really never met anyone who argued that the standards should be lowered.
Unfortunately they have a massive disciplinary and behavior issue. So much so that the rear admiral in charge of all Navy SEALs has had to make a public call to return to good order and they arent well respected by Green Berets since they killed a GB when he found out they were embezzling money. They also were going to sodomize him with a mop handle. Dead serious
@@spike51234 Damn
Muscle memory will take over during extreme stress - this is exactly what he's saying. Train like your life depends on it - because it very well may!
Incredible clip. Joe is such a natural interviewer and this guy is a wealth of knowledge. Keep it up JRE
Can’t wait for my first defensive pistol training at this facility near me soon and really hope the instructors are like this guy.
@ROE JOGAN DMT APOCALYPSE dumbass
ROE JOGAN DMT APOCALYPSE that’s what you think until you’re close quarters and need to have an advantage.
Most likely won't be taught by a seal as they usually have higher standard of jobs post service. Most likely retired paramilitary
Yea, he got no BS front whatsoever.... 100%
Thank you for getting proper training.
JRE needs to have Shawn Ryan from Vigilance Elite on asap
Yes
Yesss...that would be a great episode...Shawn dont give a shit...in kind of a funny but terrifying way lol
Plaid Shirts represent.
Oh and Don Shipley.
Oo. Thatd be a good one. Shawns storytelling kills me for some reason! Seems like a solid dude
with tarian and jade?? be fun
Bruh. U can just see in this guy's maneurisms and the way he speaks thet he has seen shit and experienced shit that 99 percent of people wouldn't even be able to handle. Much Bless to warriors like him. Regardless of what you stand on or believe in accordance to the Gov't and motives for war you have to respect people like him. Just getting through BUDS is such a ridiculous feat
The most calm voiced SEAL I’ve ever heard
lowkey, this is a deep life lesson lol.
Jhahleel Stephens dats real talk white boi salute! 💪🏿🦵🏽
Why is it lowkey lol ? seems pretty obvious and apparent
@@yos5177 you're trash
yos
shut the fuck up racist.
What makes this even more impressive, and likely makes him even more lethal, is the fact that he’s intelligent.
It took me forever to learn how to shoot in 3rd group. We use to shoot over 8 thousand rounds. But it was all worth it. At the end of the day EXPERIENCE was the best teacher.
Fantastic that Trevor talks about building a Subconscious Habit. So many people try to teach skills as a conscious effort without making any distinction between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind, where habits are built. Any moderate research will quickly show you that the conscious portion of your brain can process 12-40 bits of information per second. Whereas estimates for the subconscious part of your brain range from 3-20 million bits of info per second.
This is the same for more than just combat shooting. The best athletes in the world, the best pilots, the best at anything will all tell you they don't think about stuff before they do it, they just react. It's pre-programmed muscle memory, they just KNOW what to do rather than having to think about it.
This is relatable to so many things in life. Drill the basics so hard that they become automatic so you have less to process
If you made it through BUDS and you only weigh 165, you're a freakin monster!! This guy is a stone cold killer!! HOORAH!!!
I had a high school teacher that once told me "The best thing we can do, is teach you how to learn". Still rings true. Especially in combat.
Joe Rogan interviews the absolutely coolest folks. Loved this man's comment at 3:56 . I had a friend (American) that served in a foreign military (long story). This is exactly what he described as his mindset.
It's called 'conditioned reflex' and is achieved through repetition. When your muscles are conditioned too react the same way every time without thinking, like throwing a ball or rock and precisely hitting you're target.
When you can achieve that targeting will become much more fulfilling regardless the weapon.
Muscle memory....its why we practice reflexive firing drills and everything else in military over n over n over n over n over n over......etc.... n over n over 😂🤔✔💯🇺🇸😭
When he said that a lot of guys die overseas and a lot of guys die in training doing the right thing... most US civilians cannot recognize just how dangerous the training is. Many hard career ending injuries happen in training, myself included.
I love all of our Combat Forces, the good and the bad. Reason being under the right temperament and conditions we can turn a soldier into a true warrior. Which to me transcends all nations and beliefs.
Former 11B, 3rd ID
DogFace Soldier till I DIE.
when i see 3rd ID. i cant stop myself from saying "Patch on my shoulder!"
He'll yeh BrUh!
I can tell just by the way this guy talks and his manner that he is a warrior
Or he just seen sum shit
what? because he put on a serious voice? hahaha
When I went through Seal training all they taught us was how to sing Kiss From a Rose
Attention I was only taught how to balance a ball on my nose🤪
... Slow clap...
You signed up for the wrong Seal training bruh. Common mistake.
U sure u weren't playing call of duty?
Easiest way to train for combat shooting. Wind sprints, fire down range, wind sprints, fire down range. Get used to feeling your pulse in your finger tips on the trigger pull. That's one small piece.
Dude is intense. Can definitely tell he's seen a thing or two
I always love the section of Frank Herbert’s Dune where it talks about how Maud’dib’s first training was in how to learn and the last part of their convo made me think of that.
the other side of the SEALs, the stealth - jedi types. SEALs are not all like Goggins.
Scout Goggins was a deployment and mission dodger. Heard it from a guy in his platoon at team 5.
@@legbiter1462 just stfu. Not a manly trait to spread rumours.
@@Eddo2122 as was Goggins you piece of shit
Na. Goggins is a fn douchebag. Annoying as F.
@@Eddo2122 no youre calling it like a guy who knows a guy that took a shit with a guy, who blew a guy who's your best friend.
I was talking about muscle memory! You train for so long that your brain doesn't even need to process the movements, it becomes second nature like breathing! That´s why he said that the brain pays attention to all other things going around you. I've learn that back in the 90s in my army days and it served me well in 2004 when deployed to Iraq as part of Multinational Specialized Unit (european countries). All I had to do was learn where the buttons wore on the new AR and it all came back!!
Can you please bring Tu Lam, the founder of Ronin Tactics on your show please? He was in the special forces and served as a green beret for 20+ years
"Open eyes, open ears - closed mouth for four months ..." great motto for any newbie in any situation!
I played SOCOM religiously in 2002. No reason they shouldn’t give me my Trident.
That game was the best series In game history. Socom 1-4. Too bad they ruined it and the series died. Miss playing that back when I was younger.
-Those Guys-
Trae’von Niggatron Agreed. That first SOCOM was legendary.
Omg! I loved that game as a kid!
AndJusticeForMe The closest I have to that game now is H-Hour worlds elite on PC. Not too popular but Atleast u get to play and the people are pretty cool.
I've been in for about 10 years and the differences with weapons familiarity, conditioning, and mental strengthening was drastically different from his experience. Thankfully the types of trainings and modes they are given have changed with a complete overhaul.
This guy is very good communication skills.. No doubt he was a awesome Special op guy and an excellent teacher
They do exactly the same in the fire brigade. My friend said that he would get a call sometimes for a fire. Before a conscious thought entered his head he would be out of bed and fully dressed in his uniform. They trained every day. They had all their gear folded in exactly the same way. It was all subconscious effort. It worked.
I teach music for a living. This is exactly the concept for learning an instrument. You have to get enough hours to where instrument becomes an extension of your body. You don't want to waste any brain CPU thinking about how to operate it so that you can keep your mind on creating in real time. Pretty interesting correlation.
Guy is so soft spoken. HUMBLE
Trevor: Overseas or combat?
Joe: Yea
Why is Tevor Thompson's voice so soothing, like goddamn
Joe needs to get Marcus Luttrell on here. That will be awesome
Blake Wurm Not sure if you’ve listened from the beginning of the episode, so I apologize if you’ve already heard this, but he’s friends with him and will be on the show soon.
Jeff Donnelly yeah I did. I’m surprised he hasn’t had him on before yet. He said “soon” so we’ll see!
I hope not, marcus is such a fucking liar
Crew Giver It’s hypothetical jackass. If he does great if he doesn’t then whatever. Have a nice day
@@bigandbeastly9274 hey man! I guess he ain’t coming cuz it’s been a few!😂
Boiling things down to the utter basics in high stress situations is the key. Let your instincts help drive the way and focus on the fundamentals of what you’re trying to achieve.
‘Learn how to learn.’ Something that’s missing from today’s youth.
It's something missing in most everyone. It's easy to look at people with less experience than us and say it, but critical thinking is not always natural, and rarely in history has it been well taught.
Just look at all of the idiot adults. We all are, occasionally. And billions of people believe in some nonsense or another, from magic to conspiracies to pseudoscience to simply incorrect ideas. Learning is a lifelong struggle.
I always challenge people to look around at their peers (and themselves) and really think about whether they are actually smarter/better/whatever than any other generation. Especially when we look at our younger selves. At least new generations have access to the sum of lessons learned before them.
“For people who can manage information and stress in the same lane” AWESOME 🙌🏼🙌🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The Military started training people after WW2 to do their job without thinking, to make it so repetitive muscle memory takes over. They did it because they did studies of battles and found only five percent of soldiers actually shot their weapon in combat. The rest hunkered down.
As an example, when I was on Submarines we were running on the surface with the bridge manned. We were hit with 3 waves in a row that knocked us 60 feet under water. I was staring at a wall of water coming down the hatch in shock. A Machinist Mate came from berthing in his underwear, got under the hatch and pulled it closed. When he got the hatch closed he looked at me and two other gawkers with a look we all understood. We weren't real men or we would have closed the hatch.
After every incident like this you always do a little review of who did what and what was done right and wrong. Everyone in the control room said I blew the main ballast tanks, which was exactly what I was supposed to do. But I don't remember doing it. In my mind I just froze and stared at our doom. I had no idea repetitive training took over and I did what I was supposed to do.
Sounds like sub operators for you. Crazy how much training is done and how much delegating tasks to individuals in crisis time breaks down to just good training and planning.
Alas, this is how the USS Vincennes shot down IranAir Flight 65. The radar operator was so used to his training and seeing an enemy descending to attack, he ran through it as muscle memory and the Captain ordered the release of ordinance.
There is a fine line you must walk.
@@Hypersonik There was nothing fine about the amount of water coming down that hatch.
@@ctsmith580 And I'm sure there was nothing fine about hundreds of people screaming to their death with half of their airplane blown up...
@@Hypersonik Whatever Lib.
He nailed it at the end and put it perfectly. The Marines definitely taught me how to learn. Paid off big time in college now.
Its possibly a tougher fight than ever for these guys. Most conflicts are behind/in enemy lines a long way from home. Many constraints, few clear, uniformed enemy. Even poor enemies have relatively lethal weapons now (AK/RPG/SAM/ATGM/IED etc) not just bolt action rifles or simpler.
I love the simplicity similar to hitting the driver in golf with the handshake, carry the platter, smoke it philosophy.
That ending man, chilling
In the Army my instructors would always say. We practice over and over because we rely on muscle memory. If you have to think before you act, you're done.
I’ve heard it is easier to teach someone who has never touched a gun as opposed to someone who has done a whole lot of weekend warrior range time.
Yes, my uncle was a Marine and I thought I knew guns until I lived with him. He took me shooting a bunch and was pretty much an instructor the whole time. He broke everything down all the way to how much finger I needed on the trigger and when in my breathing cycle to squeeze
Correct. Much easier to instill good habits than to correct bad ones.
As an instructor myself totally true. Bad habits can take hundred or thousands of rounds to reverse
This is true with just about everything....
It's not, "practice makes perfect",......it's, "perfect practice makes perfect"!
‘Every day you’re earning your Trident.” He’s right. That’s why I always have great breath.
I need to stop watching these navy SEAL interviews, I'm beginning to feel inadequate...
thank you for your service and your down-to-earth demeanour
amazing stuff
SEALS and Special Operation types have a certain way about them. It's very vague and strange, yet intriguing.
The Military is it's own universe. There is a hierarchy of badassery. Capability.
My hillbillie granddad taught us well to , love all y'all
That was great Joe. Excellent choice for an interview.
Cause one thing that I learned about ordering from McDonald’s. Is that they put the “Mc” in front of all their food items.
*Mind Blown*
Wow! I'm a combat vet and that guy verbalized what I have never been able to. That really resonated with me.
thank you for your service
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Joes head: 💡
Takes about three gun fights for your brain to start working in the middle of a shit storm.
Training helps with the mechanics but hearing bullets whizzing by and thumping into the walls or trees and maybe people around you brings a whole new dimension to the affair.
Specialized training brings focus and grit into the mix. The focus is on eliminating the enemy and the grit comes in doing so while the enemy has the same goal.
I understand that shit happens but I’ve always found it so sad that men die during their training.
I agree
What most don't appreciate is that combat shooting is radically different from range shooting, competition shooting, or hunting.
According to the fbi, trained police officers, at an average range of engagement of 10' or less, miss their intended target 60% of the time. For civilians in self defense situations, the hit rate drops way further.
When lead is flying up range as well as down range, shooting fundamentals go to hell for most people - even those ostensibly trained to shoot under pressure.
They say that very few rise to the occasion, but everyone falls to the level of their training. I believe it.
That was intense.
Joe's head so shiny he could guide ships back to harbour during a shitstorm
I like how he "doesn't remember" the possible classified stuff.
Love how Rogan asks the perfect questions that people like Lt Col Dave Grossman has written books on, should have him brought in to talk about killing and combat he will run your head in circles
As a person who was raised shooting a lot it’s really weird to meet other grown people who have now idea how to handle a pistol or rifle or shotgun safely and effectively.
I didn't til I was 28...I handled a beginners 22 bolt action rifle n 9mm. My father was in the Army AD but he never had firearms at the house. Now I'm infantryman vet .
Sly11B Enal Outstanding sir. Thanks for your service.
@@sly11benal7 Damn you took the green weenie pretty late in life
Yes Thankyou. sounds simple but in my experience in the military... I learned how to LEARN and LEARN fast and efficiently because if you don't... you simply don't survive.
Professionals do what they do for a REASON.
I see that taken for granted or overlooked in spades.
I never shot much growing up and when I was TAD to the SEAL/SWCC Fleet Transition Program the SO's I was with said they prefer people who haven't grown up shooting because they are easier to train the right way...Their way
Remember when SEALS used to shun the spotlight? Now, every time I turn on the TV or open TH-cam there’s a SEAL talking about being a SEAL.
Green Berets and Rangers gotta pick up their game, yo.
Ever since Osama, EVERYONE has been more interested and enticed by SEALS.
I don't really mind them getting all the publicity. They're pretty fucking cool.
Once the Green Berets get on the level of Osama assassination, I'm sure there'll be a huge spike in the interest of green berets.
That's because they're the silent professionals, and haven't been pimped out by Hollywood .
Zach B rambo........
Stay off TH-cam looking at Seals. Problem solved.
@Jonathan Spier, Dick Marcinko is probably one of my favorite SEALs of all time . I've read all of his Auto biography and its one of the most best reads ever . His RED CELL Team 6, is my 2nd best read .
The calmness from 2 guys who'll fuck you up.
Ask him about the SEAL that shot his platoon’s armorer in the ass in Germany 2011 🤣
Let’s ask yourself about your 9-5 job. Loser
Thank you for your service!
Its called muscle memory.
Its the same in martial arts. Its a form of Kata. You cant do something fast unless you can do it slow.
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast...
TALK ABOUT THE CORONA VIRUS JOE ! BRING A VIROLOGIST ON
Seal team is the best action drama series
Very, very poignant.
Remember the Military has been around since time and wars began.
They do have a Training method that works ... slight changes depending on country.
Some teach everything you need to know in basic trg to be able to join a unit and be of use. Others layered training ... so just enough to be a soldier, and as you join a unit, their specialties to that regiment. Everything ramping up, all the way up to tier one operators ... train and repeat to refine.
Muscle memory. Key in everything you do in life, be it plumbing, working out, combat tactics, writing etc. Even playing an instrument. Gotta train the body and mind and practice at anything you want to be successful at.