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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- This video, I go into depth why I believe Xeno Goku defeats Kratos, Doom Slayer, And Asura. This is merely a debate, do not take my word and twist it as a “im right ur not” type of thing. This is merely for entertainment so please treat it as such. Enjoy the video! :D
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ok can he beat asura yes but doom slayer and kratos hell no
@@SnorlaxBear nah stay mad he can
@@Abrold how was i mad ?
Bro can you debate about xeno goku vs anos voldigoad and rimuru and also if both anos voldigoad and rimuru can both solo marvel and DC comic version combine
When this man gets a good mic it’s over
It will be over 😈
@@ToasterXD *Altair solos*
@@ToasterXD my question is would hit assassinate the omni king if he was hired to
@@RAPIXDREG rather he’ll assasinate the person that asked him to Zeno 😂😂😂
@@Jacksontrooper777who?
One thing to note, 6th dimension =/= 6 dimensional, dimensions in doom are treated as universes so it's pretty vage, and there's nothing to suggest an outerversal scale, like at all, same goes for kratos and asura, 6D nor outer
So he’s wanking them to compare to Xeno?
Exactly. I agree completely, mean no disrespect to this scaler but it seems he should do some research on dimensional tiering some more and probably contact a senior in the scaling community who can help him understand it more. He seems to believe anything above space-time is outerversal 😅
@@Mikerille to be fair, that is the definition. being above the concept of space time means you are above any dimensions infinitely therefore outerversal
@@Mikerille being above the concept of space and time is literally a outer feat.
@@4zen870 no….being beyond all CONCEPTUALITY and totality isn’t even an outer feat
Doomslayer: Are you a demon?
Xeno Goku: No, but are you a demon?
Doomslayer: No. Understandable, have a nice day.
Xeno Goku: You too.
Boom, debate ended
I just realised that both have in common one thing, curbstomped a demon
@@FZresetYT not both, but arguably allof them
Doom and Goku became best friends
@@drypoop3832 well won't they be friends? Bc they are superhero after all so yea
just like the One with Kratos and doom slayer just with goku Overused Plus not funny
Doom slayer: my family is dead.
Xeno goku: *revives his family*
BOOM! Their best friends now.
You could say his bunny daisy but goes "hell"a well too 😈
Incredible analysis friend, just one complaint. Xeno Goku was comparable to CC Goku in BLUE, being equal in power. However this is not the case when CC Goku uses UI Omen or MUI, let alone Universal Blue. Xeno Goku and Xeno Vegeta both acknowledged the godly superiority of UI. MUI has also proven to be greater than fusion, as proven when Cumber in base low diffed both SS4 Vegito and SSB Kaioken x20 Vegito yet was no diffed by MUI Goku. That shows that even Xeno Goku and even Xeno Vegito is still drastically inferior to UI Goku. We know from feats Fu has to be at least relative to Aeos; if not more considering he is the reincarnation of the Dark King who would have destroyed the entire concept of infinite time. Fu's power, which was greater than the dark king since he absorbed a literal reality tree, was dwarfed by Universal Blue Goku. Universal Blue Goku is relative if not superior than Ultra Instinct. Xeno Goku is far from the level of UI, and in turn far from Universal Blue as well
Also, can you point me where its said Xeno Goku experienced the beginning of super?
Xeno Goku has access to super sayian god and knows Beerus.
@ToasterXD He did but couldn't master the power and is unable to control it at will. Unlike Goku from Super, when it wore out he couldn't use it again. Your answer is still right but it would be inaccurate to say he has access to Suped Saiyan god.
bro that's anime Xeno Goku, we talking about arcade one
The statement about cumber, cumber did beat ssj blue Vegito but he on ssj3 was defeated by ssj4 Vegito and MUI just defeated a base form cumber who was exausted
@@ToasterXD wrong no he doesn't and you clearly lack information and facts about SDBH as most of the things you said is false. There are different versions of Xeno Goku and different continuities the Xeno Goku that has experienced SSG and knows Beerus is the one from DBH Ultimate Mission X. That isn't connected or canon to the arcade, manga or anime continuity and the UMX Xeno Goku is based on DBS and knows DBS characters. The Xeno Goku from the arcade is based on GT and doesn't know anything about SSG, BoG or god ki.
I have every guidebook for Heroes and bern following it since 2010 and translate as well.
Xeno Goku throws them around like rag dolls...!
Nah
I can beat all of them 100% I'm black
White guys cosplaying ghosts>>>>> you
@@BigMoneyFantastic1738 Out of pocket 💀
@@greedy_arts3807 i know😭 I should've kept it to myself
@@BigMoneyFantastic1738 nah you good bro, I joke a lot like that, it's funny, even coming from a black guy, lol
@@greedy_arts3807 I'm black too so I say ni-
Man, I always wanted for Xeno Goku to be compared to OP video game characters. Can you do maybe a video comparing Simon from Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann?
Edit: typo
Not a bad idea, I might give it a shot
@@ToasterXD Thanks, mate
I think xeno goku would definitely beat kratos doomslayer and asura but asura would be a big challenge for xeno goku asura is most likely high multi to low complex multiversal at max while Xeno goku in his base form defeated final form demigra who was going to destroy the infinite multiverse which makes him easily 5D high multiversal to low complex multiversal level. Nice video bro
Doom slayer solos
Nah asura is the weakest of them. Even canon Goku would prove a big challenge to asura
@@koda8096 he just gave a clear explanation yet you still say doom slayer wins😂
@@truebreakage9003 yeah doom slayer solos dbh verse - gow verse already asura any given day
@@koda8096 the dimensions in dooms are perceived as universes. Idk how you think he solos DBH
Doom slayer can rip demons, WITH HIS HANDS😂😂😂
Those demons are nothing to goku though
Those demons are attack on titan level nor can they destory a universe
@@kimaniHyman the low tier ones yes but then you get into characters like the icon of sin who can destroy the universe by existing. Keep in mind his use of guns is just a personal preference and any enemy he fights could be fought with just raw hands.
@@badassproductions4734 i don't see how that's supposed to be impressive
Devilmite Beam easily no diffs doom slayer
bro these power concepts getting more and more outrageous
First off, but "6D" and Outerversal even in the same sentence is wild considering how far apart they are. Hell you could be 99D and not be touching the tier that is outerversal.
Im be frank with you, xeno Goku would just be overkill. Base canon Goku as of now is around 6-7D considering there have been multiple statements from both screenwriters, databooks, and author statements that explicitly state that places like the afterlife are dimensionally transcendent of the living world, with the living and after world being stated to be infinite, and the macrocasm having to be an even higher dimensionality that even the already 5D afterlife as it is infinite as for a space to hold another infinite space it must be if higher dimensionality, makin the macrocasm 6-7D (depending on some canon and noncanon places like Garlics hyperspace), all of which we know base Goku can easily destroy.
I havent even gotten into how Goku's transformations and how based on how he has far surpassed Infinity Zamasu, who fused with not just the multiverse but the entire timeline which if looking at DB cosmology would put him at around 9-10D.
I’m not saying they’re anywhere in between 6D and outer. I may have worded that wrong. I was saying that 6D is the logical scale of Doom guy. And outer is his high-ball scale.
Exactly but people love to lowball Super to the absolute max. DBS Goku is already too much on his own yet still gets lowballed to 5D by people.
Base Canon Goku is only Universal
@Demon Timing Doom Slayer and Kratos obliterate Canon Goku neg to no diff.
Asura beats Canon Goku mid diff. Well base form Goku at the very least.
Doom Slayer: The highest you can scale him is Outerversal and he has Immesurable Speed.
Kratos: The lowest you can scale him is Low Multiversal and he has Infinite Speed.
Asura: Universal to Universal+ and possibly has Immesurable Speed
Goku: In base he's only Universal and in MUI he's Low Multiversal at max and only has Massively FTL+ Speed.
Goku is not that strong. Zeno caps out at Multiversal and he stomps Goku.
@@rockonemo7608 Goku is 5d because of afterlife. Therefore, goku is low complex multi in base. Xeno Goku stomps Kratos, Doom Slayer, and Asura no diff because Xeno Goku is way above outer, and everyone else is just complex multi.
Kratos didn’t hold up the nine realms, he held the portal to them
The devs actualy stated that it stills weight like nine realms
@@jovanJojo797 source: trust me bro
@@jovanJojo797no they didn’t 💀💀
I still can't believe people actually believe he lifted 9 realms just because he lifted the portals
He didnt even flip the nine realms, he flipped a place which takes you to the nine realms
I like how bro explain everything with valid reason.
Keysword negs Kratos, Doomslayer and Asura at the same time, don’t believe everything Death Battle says, because that was extreme downplay of the DBH cosmology.
The keysword onky really worked on ki users.
We dont know if it would work on anyone outside of its verse.
You are wrong and so is DeathBattle. When you look at God Of War perspective, Key sword or any DBS or DBSH characters is totally gonna lose hard to Kratos or Doomslayer. But Ashura might lose to Xeno Goku. Logically if Yggdrasil is 1-B structure, Kratos no doubt is 1-A/ Outerverse max. Doomslayer is very close to Kratos, by that logic Doomslayer is most likely 1-B. Xeno Goku at best is 2-A to 1-C so he ain't winning both of them.
@@alphaisyeeting4880 bruh doomsayer is nowhere close to outversnal he is only multiversnal at max
@@alphaisyeeting4880 and asura is universal at best
@@alphaisyeeting4880 kratos can maybe win against xeno Goku but it's extreme diff for him or he can even lose because I can scale xeno Goku to hyperversnal and kratos is complex multiversnal
What’s even more insane is cc goku is even more powerful than this
Xeno Goku has the ability to control Fate, Probability, Life, Matter, Space, Reality, and even Conceptual Manipulation. He even has the power to create miracles or destroy them. Making Xeno Goku a Infinite Boundless threat that can obliterate all of reality by just wishing it to be so.
"Faster than infinity"
....that makes sense!
Kratos is not "above time" since Kronos never used anything pertaining to time to beat Kratos, he just ate him, and bled like any other creature. All these arbitrary feats from Doomslayer and Kratos are somewhat BS, since a lot of them are left up to be interpreted to some BS level, meanwhile Xeno Goku's Outerversal power is clearly stated. Even base Goku can move at least 20 Trillion mph while in SSJ3, and people think that he is getting blitzed by a wide range of characters, which ends up being false because no one does the math.
god fusion goku solos fiction depending on how you scale him.
If Xeno Goku was OP already, what if we added all of DBS manga to those events?
I cannot find that universe tree statement anywhere on the site, so unless it’s in the game, nah
Even then that universe tree amp is a whole other story for cc compared to xeno
It’s an actual Scan, that’s not the sketchy part about it The kind of “iffy” thing about this scan is the translation as there tends to be a lot of inconsistencies with Japanese To English data book. You also have to take into account that this is one of the high ball interpretations of Xeno Goku. And yes, you’re allowed to make the implication that CC Goku and Xeno Goku being relative in power would make Xeno Goku Around infinite layers into higher outer. Without implications Power scaling simply wouldn’t work the way it does. I hope you enjoyed though! And if you’re willing to, please subscribe!
It’s only available in Japan you need a vpn to access it
@@josha8891 CURSE THE JAPANESE
So little videos yet you got so many subscribers. Truly a nice feeling to see a channel grow.
You sound like Seth the programer
First Xeno Goku would ask politely to spar then once the sparing session is over become freinds the end
I doubt they would become friends💀 their personality’s are polar opposites
You made my day so I think I’ll sub
Short answer : *No*
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY discusses that the Slayer crushed the Father’s soul with his bare hands to awaken the Dark Lord, who was the original Father. The Father, in Doom, is their infinite multiversal god. Him existing causes the multiverse to expand infinitely, and the Doom multiverse is already infinite. The Slayer’s speed is also directly proportional to his strength. He also is actually unkillable, and only the very specific scenario of a hyper specific ritual that puts only him to sleep makes him lose.
Well, if it comes to unkillable Mafuba and Z sword exist.
@@rifarira9160he's unlikable yes, but can also respawn Infinitely
Nice video, agree but the scan for the universal three is kind of sus because we don't have clue if is official or not but prolly on 2023 we will know
Thing you didn’t mention. Doom slayer didn’t absorb just any god. He absorbed the literal God of all creation. And the demon lord who sealed him. Doom slayer has the innate ability to grow as strong as the opponent he’s fighting. So in terms of physical strength. Doom slayer would be comparable to xeno goku. Xeno goku would only be able to win through ki blast attacks and/or his martial arts. Also all of them are immortal and doom slayer has infinite stamina so…tbh between doom slayer and Goku it’s the hardest one. Goku is so much stronger but he physically cannot kill doom slayer nor outpace him tho doom slayer cannot even dream to damage or even keep up with goku.
Please answer me this.
3rd form Demigra was about to destroy "the real world" which is the fiction of Dragonball itself, so if someone is beyond of the concept of fiction then he is absolute boundless.
That means Xeno Goku is high outer in base and boundless in ssj 1 then. In fact he scales multiple times into boundless because he beat a boundless being and CC Goku somehow scales higher than him and God fusion Goku even higher than any fictional character ever made.
That should be right I think
this is WANK
@@maskedcrusaderingsprofe?
Damn
Kratos did not lift the 9 realms, he just lifted the building surrounding the world tree.
And he clearly does not have infinite speed either.
What stupid takes...
Creator of GOW literally confirmed he lifted the 9 realms, and dodging hermes bolts takes infinite speed. Guess what he did! He also wiped out 2 pantheons.
@@project_ligma a clone of wu kong solos stomp on him 💀he soo weak
@@goofyvoi4129 did u play the god of war series?
@@project_ligma bitch ass hoe I have ps5 u fucking retard a clone of wu kong will shits on gow doom slayer devil may cry asura the destroyer marvel dc anime all at the same time bitch is he is the strongest character no one can beat him
@@goofyvoi4129 i have a ps5 too, no need to brag.
There is a sequence in asura wrath were planets were trown at him and also suns 🤯
Hear what he says about being thrown by planes? Those are Whole plane of existences
CC Goku > Xeno Goku
Faxx. Great research my man
So happy I found this channel, new sub!
See, the term infinite does not apply here. It is unknown finite, not infinite. Which is the weaker definition of infinity. True infinity also referred to as boundless is just a hypothetical concept. Nothing is boundless since there is always a boundary. Which is why the term uncountable exists.
Bruh how tf is Doomslayer outerversal? Even if we use vsbattle's less stringent requirements for outer, to qualify you at least have to transcend an aleph-1 amount of dimensions.
In canon the only reason doomslayer uses guns is because he would one shot everything and it wouldn’t be fun
His armor is also blessed to be indestructible with a capital I and the armor breaking is a gameplay mechanic alone
He also was blessed by seraphimwith the ability to absorb the soul of the demons he has killed and he has been killing demons for 13.8 BILLION years
And the demons in doom are quite powerful with the basic imp being able to launch fireballs hotter than the sun and tear through titanium and walls upon walls of concrete like it’s wet paper. I’m willing to say a single imp could probably defeat raditz
And doom slayer kills millions of them by the hour and has been doing so for billions of years
And that’s not counting the titans who terraform planets into hells capes simply by existing amor the icon of sin who similar to syn shenron could destroy a universe as a biproduct of just them existing and of course he has killed the abrahamic representations of both satan and god who created the multiverse I’d say we just need the slayer
@@karlwes6273 Based on that, he goes to complex multi at best.
@@syntrx8185 The doom universe consists of multiple different universe sized dimensions, also as he stated he can canonically respawn so how would you stop that
Em correct me if I'm wrong but isn't creating or destroying space time a complex to high complex multiverse level feat so where did u get outerversal feat from
Bro literally let's go imma jus tell u y Xeno goku in base from slaps them all
Firstyl Tokitoki is stated to be above all dimensions bare minimum put his strength atlout Outer then he proceeds to infinitely surpass it with absorbing God ki into base so him and CC goku scale bare minimum Outer in base with ssg giving an infinite multiplier but realistically infinite to the power of 2 so jus with Ssg CC goku is already boundless and since Xeno goku is relatively to Ssg/a bit stronger since he gets absolutely blitzed by ssb he's weaker than that so he would be bare minimum 1 layer into boundless with ssj4 and high Outer in Base form that's not factoring in the power growth or Limit breaker
Dante in the corner:
Hey man can you talk about more asura ?
Ill probably go over them in a longer video eventually
if this is xeno goku game, then he slams neg diff
He breaths in their direction and the concept of their existence ceases to be.
Kratos is planetary, doomslayer is high multiversal and Dante is low complex multiversal and asura is star-solar system level while Xeno goku is high outer-boundless
Kratos at planetary is outrageous
@@lucexantus628 what’s more outrageous is kratos being multiversal or above
@@Blazegti How do you not get that Lore Kratos ≠ Game Kratos. Also there is no way you called Asura star to solar system level when he punched his nigh omnipotent God who created his verse to death
Drip goku solos
@@wasifchowdhury2004 and putting the slayer (who did in lore the exact same thing but god was in a god mech suit) below him is fucking rediculous
Bro I think u forgot about a kratos feat which is that he battled against Odin who has been stated to be able to destroy existence and the Inf tree who have inf space and time in them + kratos could have immeasurable speed since he'll has been stated to be immeasurable in some statements and if Hermes light can cover hell it self and kratos can doge it could mean he has immeasurable speed also kratos has weapons that are rlly Powerful and has his rage mode also kratos never went all out since the creators said he gets stronger when he gets older so there could be an argument that he is faster but it is unknown rn also kratos has shown that even someone who can predict where u are gonna hit he can defeat so I am saying that kratos could win Vs xenoverse Goku as he has similar feats maybe even better once also doesn't xeno Goku only have inf speed feat?
After universal things get confusing and nobody seems to know what they are talking about, so here’s some clarification:
1000+ 3D universes to infinite 6D strength is Multiversal
7D-9D is Complex Multiversal
10D-12D is Hyperversal
13D-infD is outerversal
Transcending infinite dimensions is boundless
This means Doom Slayer, Kratos and Asura are Multiversal, whereas Xeno Goku is hyperversal. Case closed.
@because I'm batman nvm, I just checked, and both of us are wrong. The first part of my statement, over 1000 3D universes, is correct. Multiversal extends up to 4D infinite. Complex Multiversal is 5-11D (5-6 low, 7-9 mid, 9-11 high), hyperversal is 12-aleph1D (uncountable infinity), outerversal is aleph1-absolute infinity D, and boundless is anything beyond that. This means Keaton is low complex (5D), Asura and Doom Slayer are multi, and Xeno Goku is high complex (10D). I am still right about the order of characters though.
@@The-fs5wn in my opinion xeno goku game arcade is high-outeversal
how is this even an debate lol xeno Goku is just too op for these three
honestly if you wank canon Goku enough he would beat doom slayer and kratos(not sure about asura)
also kratos didn't lift the 9 realms as confirmed by cory balrog himself which can be calculated few quadrillions of tons
kratos still does have arguments for infinite strength tho
ok
canon Goku is way too weak for these three. Xeno Goku got it tho
@@jin4712 it depends where you scale each character cause some might put doom slayer at plant level and some might put him at multiversal
xeno Goku stomps but canon Goku might win might lose depending on who you ask
@@artineskandari7629 It really isn't as close as you think it is. Doom slayer is FAR stronger than planetary. Can't even low ball him to planetary lol.
@@jin4712 ik but some people do
Ngl, goku dbs is already strong itself, but xeno goku's power (game version cuz anime is nerfed af ) is just absurd, like the mf can't even be deleted from existence, he solos dbs neg diff tbh
Both of them are 11D, which is mid-hyperversal.
@@The-fs5wn 11D is high complex multiversal hyperversal is 12D
and people say superman can beat this goku
They forgot about supermans weakness like come on,goku would easily win if he does play dirty
You should remake this video honestly. The mic is pretty bad and you stuttered quite a bit. But hey for a first vid this ain’t bad
Doomslayer is not Outer by that feat. He doesn’t transcend his own fiction. He’d be complex multi.
Kratos also didn’t hold 9 realms. He flipped the temple which held 9 realm crystals which channel the bifrost to open the way between realms. He only flipped the temple. Also the births and deaths of gods are the strongest events in their lives, so killing Kronos isn’t all that special. Kronos himself had VERY little control over time outside of using the steeds of time, which he handed over to the fates for that reason. Not outerversal either. He’s complex multi if you wank all his statements and ignore half of the author/creator statements giving extreme bias.
Asura also is nowhere near outerversal as his best feats are uni+ and only AFTER being amped by mantra reactor and karma fortress. Not even low multi.
With Xeno Goku it’s hard to say since he does transcend the fiction of SDBH/DBH into beat’s world. So with equalized fiction, yes he’s outerversal due to outscaling his fiction. However, if Beat’s world is the fiction we’re equalizing to, he’s the weakest of the bunch due to being an entire fictional layer and infinite cosmology lower.
Wrong
Asura is low multiversal due to the existence of more than one universe confirmed by Chakravartin
Also there are 0 r>f structures in SDBH so no goku is not outerversal
He's multiversal+
Get your scalings right before you make baseless claims
@@user-pz6qz9xr1l ironic seeing how you were completely wrong on both instances.
base saiyan saga could beat them what kind of question is this
Yes. Kratos is low multiversal, doomslayer is low complex multi, and asura isn’t even above universal. Also 6D doesn’t mean outerversal…6D is low complex multiversal, outerversal is 3 sets of aelephs and being outside causality, conceptuality, functionality, and fictional constraints on a scale above 13D Constructs.
Goku in base beat demigra who was going to destroy beats infinite multiverse, the “real” infinite multiverse, and the xenoverse infinite multiverse.
You seem confused, outerversal doesn’t mean anything above multiversal+ homie…there are entire sets of coordinate concepts between them.
I didn’t once say 6d meant outer, im saying you could make them that with certain arguments. This isn’t a definitive scale for them but I’m showing that even if you high-balled these 3 they aren’t beating Xeno Goku
@@ToasterXD not to be rude but there’s really no case at all you can make them to be even hyperversal with extreme and absolute highballs is there? I mean feel free to give one. But yeah doomguy is the only one who could even attempt to fight goku, and could actually probably win. Though there are absolutely downright broken hax in xenoverse that would allow goku to win. Doomguy is low complex as well as goku, but as omnipresent speed as opposed to the mftl+ goku
@@Mikerillethere is, I didn’t really go into depth into the feats that make them this high in this video because I rushed it. But you absolutely can make them outer with a lot of different things. Though it isn’t really consistent
@@ToasterXD asura is fodder even dbs base goku oneshots
I will be brief.
Goku would slaughter them.
But
Super Goku would get slaughtered.
Hmmmm not too sure abt slaughtering them
It would be hard
Most has 1 shot move
I am imagining having to learn about Kratos in Greek 3rd grade history it would be the best
No, this depends on what version of xeno goku you’re using but W vid
I meant to say now
There's only one Xeno Goku.
The one from Dragon Ball Super Heroes.
@thedarknessinthelight9824 there's game version dbh version is galaxy level
@@rafiqulislamchowdhury8723 Get on somewhere, clown.
Xeno goku would definitely body kratos. The hardest thing to beat is Kratos fanboys.
Nice 👍
Thanks ✌
The results really depend on 2 things:
1. If we're talking about Anime Xenoku (the one in SDBH's anime) or Arcade Xenoku (The one that's in the arcade game of DBH and has these feats)
2. Who is controlling Kratos, Asura or/and Doomslayer (keep in mind they are from videogames so they can be controlled by people like us, however the results depend on the skill of the controller or if they're not controlled and acting by their own)
Edit: Bro these people taking the 2 point way too seriously lmao 💀💀
1. - One thing I didn’t mention in the video is that it’s a composite Xeno Goku, not a specific Xeno Goku. Any feats he’s gained throughout the Hero’s series as a whole is counted for this.
2. - this isn’t necessarily a way of looking at it. At least in my opinion, it’s sort of works the same way as how the writers can’t step in to help characters in verse battlesC because the fight itself takes all characters out of the respective universes meaning no plot armor, and I would assume this applies to video game characters as well but I guess that’s just how I look at it
2 is such a stupid take, thats like doing a debate for Red (Pokemon) vs Agumon, then asking who's playing as him.
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
It would be dope if you could do a Xeno Goku vs Anos video, I'm tired of people low balling/wanking.
At this level of power there's no point/meaning to what any of these characters can do.
We're talking about impossible concepts beyond human comprehension that none of the writers are taking seriously or thinking about consistently. Just call all of them gods and say who the fuck knows.
Yh bro Xeno goku slaps all of em
No Bias but, Xeno Goku Enslaves
sorry but it was stated that infinite number of timesline are just hyperversal
And Xeno Goku upscales to it
@@ToasterXD wdym upscale do u mean he transent it cuz u said infinite in this video is outer when. It's hyper idk man maybe am dumb but u gotta explain a bit in more detail pls
From what I gather because there is other infinite bodies inside infinite which is separated by space time is outer I fell stupid so I need ur help if u do then I could see y u guys say he is high outer instead of like high hyper to low outer cuz this is what I taught he is scale to
But I gotta say atleast u didn't be like those fans boys that say xeno Goku is in accessable layers into boundless
explain even more
I’ll probably go over all these characters in the future in a longer video. I wanted this to be straight to the point. I hope you enjoyed though! :D
How about the "real world"(which sees dbh world as fiction) destroyer demigra?
Demigra only threatened to destroy the real world but he doesn't see it as fiction. The one you're talking about is Prometheus from Jump Force, who sees all of anime (including DBH) as fiction and Jump Force Goku killed him.
Respectfully, he one shots all of them in base form
Wher does it exactly saye that there's super dimensions because i didn't really understand the scan you showed
Could Steve from Minecraft with all his powers Creative mode, mods, plug ins, code hacks etc beat Kratos, Doom Slayer, Asura etc?
why does he sound so much like seththeprogrammer lol
I swear they have the same mic
What about Jump Force Goku? This version of hm is absurd
He’s way easier to scale so I might go over him eventually
No he’s not. He’s 5D at best
@@cheemsthagoat7359 are you Fucking joking right? He is Beyond tiering system level in Base Form LMFAOOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
@@cheemsthagoat7359 What the hell?
Normal Goku would smoke them all.
Bro can you debate about xeno goku vs anos voldigoad and rimuru and also if both anos voldigoad and rimuru can both solo marvel and DC comic version combine
Lmaoo
@@jrjunior8468 what is that mean
@@MardiemikeSOLO IT ? Man they can't even touch it and gets instantly soloed
@@OKIEIAMGOOD who do you mean get soloed
@@Mardiemike rimuru and anos
kratos is beyond the concepts of space and time and cant even be conceptually erased beating that is tough
So is demigra,(going off the promotional material)
Isnt Xeno Goku the strongest version of Goku?
No
Top five strongest gokus not in order
Xeno goku capsule corp goku Jump Force go to fusion reborn goku.
Does Xeno Goku beat like the strongest versions of sonic like archie sonic or the one from the games?
easily xeno goku is probably the strongest fictional charater with jump force goku lmao
@@MVUltraasun wukong negs
@@serpany2044 actually nope xeno goku is far above
You are right and wrong
Son goku is sun wukong
Kratos is overrated, people think just cause the devs said that he has limitless strength that suddenly means he solos every verse. Saitama has better feats than kratos, due to saitama having limitless stats, while kratos only has limitless strength
and kratos couldn've only gotten fate defying power and infinite speed through magic and hermes boots, two things he doesn't have anymore
Jump Force Base Naruto is Complex Multiversal
Could Goku beat Kratos?
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Xeno Goku can
@aisplin5540 Because of the Blades of Chaos, I will make concessions all the way up to Goku's return from Namek. From literally that moment on, Kratos has no more ability to take Goku. But I would be very tempted to say that Sayin Saga Goku could only lose to Kratos if it was on purpose. Between Goku's abilities based on Popo's training, and the fact that he's planet level by the end of the Vegeta fight, arguably, even DB level Goku, (Final Tournament where he got rematch with Piccolo) could outclass Kratos in most abilities. If not strength, then definitely in speed and power output. And while he wouldn't show blade resistance until later, or heat resistance, I defy Kratos to even touch Goku...with anything...without stopping time.
@@firebladetenn6633 you proved absolutely nothing with that. Here are the feats of kratos i won’t bother listing them. but some of them are bullying promodials whose mere presence unleashed can create a infinite universe one of them is thanatos (god of death) who has his own realm aka dimension . He existed before the concept of time and space it self and was one of the last promodial. guess what? kratos killed him in his base. thanatos is the concept of death. he can lift the hyperion spear. it contains the weight of the infinte universe. KRATOS USES IT TO BEAT HIS ENEMIES. one shots cronos (embodiment of space and time) exists in a different plane of reality. cuz he is not bounded by fate. stomped gaia mother of cronos. a 5d omnipresent being. SAME KRATOS WHO CAN DO ALL THIS GETS ONE SHOTTED BY FEAR ZEUS.(the concept of fear itself) KRATOS WITH POWER OF HOPE(in his prime) BY ONLY USING 50% POWER STOMPS FEAR ZEUS. I’d be surprised if Goku at full power would even perceive Kratos ripping his head off let alone landing a hit on Kratos.
@aisplin5540 every time somebody lists "infinite cosmos," God kills a kitten. Kratos...has never produced a planet killing feat, no matter what the lore says about his power. But regardless, Goku isn't killing planets. He's killing universes. If Kratos was that strong, the games would simply not happen.
@@firebladetenn6633 “no matter what the lore says about his power” LMAO bro what?? You’re literally saying that official statements from the writers mean nothing?? Kratos LITERALLY has infinite speed and strength. While Goku IS strong he IS NOT infinitely strong. He gets negged COPE.
Who gonna tell the man xeno goku is boundless😂
Yes
And thet cannot respawn just revive them in a specific place and time when they set spawn point its like resetting time after getting killed and reviving
Can you do god emperor doom vs Bugs bunny
Do a video about son wo kong
Can xeno goku even beat davoth? Davoth is a boundless villian that can destroy creation and unmake it with just thoughts and hell can destroy dimensions end exist beyond time,dimensions,creation,space and outer verses and davoth able to destroy it with just thoughts is crazy I don’t even think so cosmic armor Superman can beat him he would need help from tdk,rkt so in my opinion doom slayer neg diffs this fodder and I watched dbz and dragon ball heroes and xeno goku is boundless in his own cosmology he went against davoth he would break goku into pieces
Acutally doom slayer could beat cc goku xeno goku with his 2% power or 1% power
And dbz cosmology is so small compared to doom cosmology
Could you scale sun wukong to kratos
For what a clone of wu kong solos them all at the same time
Screw the real answer, Instead let's focus on how Xeno Goku was basically just the creators finding an excuse to make Goku unbeatable
Meh you need to really dig in to the lore to get xeno Goku to outer so no it probably wasn't intentional to make him this strong
@@hassanhassan-os5oq you cannot be telling me you actually enjoyed Super Dragon ball Heroes
@@rubver6980 I play the games and the arcade and I enjoy it yes but what's that have go do with anything
@@hassanhassan-os5oq I'm just saying it's a bit weird to be hyping up a character if they are from a bad show (I'm talking about the anime not the manga for Super Dragon ball Heroes)
@@rubver6980its mostly promotional works not really for the story it kinda butchers the game arc and storylines
I mean canon Goku could possibly defeat Kratos and probably Asura.
Xeno Goku would most likely oneshot both of them.
Doomguy is different because if the Ancient Gods DLC didn´t exist, he would get oneshotted by 8-year-old Goku.
But with him defeating Davoth, he could actually be comparable to Xeno Goku.
no hate but some of these words you use together makes no sense how can u be faster than infinity im just a lil slow ig
bro soo many inaccurate feats kratos wasn't lifting the 9 relms he was lifting the gate of mimir temple he wasn't dodging helious light he never does so it is just says that hermis can out run helious light i know it is still the same because kratos have the boot of hermis my hand are getting tired there are still a few as for the other character but yea
Ehan you don't know how to powerscale a character, but you are frustrated listening others think that someone can beat your fav fictional character
can he beat idw unicron then
Was this inspired by kazi?
Yes and seththeprogrammer
@@ToasterXD in that case W Toaster for spreading the info on how op xeno Goku truly is 👑🐐
I think Super Goku could beat Goku them but what do I know
Still not as strong as sun wukong.sun can sleep while fighting them
Yeah you that's not fair
Can you do Archie sonic vs xeno goku vid
Interesting idea
no archie is way to unfair.
Honestly could probably go either way
@@RealShrill you’d be surprised actually, I have a video coming soon on the power of Archie sonic if you’d like to stay tuned for that!
Casual fan arguments base on destructive capability of character and the scalepower base on wikibattle
Cosmology: N/A since there are so many iterations of the cosmology and many weird paradoxes involving certain iterations of certain cosmologies of Dragon ball. But confirmed to be larger than JF db where JF Goku Destroyed Prometheus, who was gonna destroy all of shonen jump and was gonna fuse the REAL world with Anime, Prometheus also sees fiction as fiction and he's superior to Real Humans like he claimed and JF Goku beat him.
Xeno Goku feats (Games included)
-Can use SSJ4 limit breaker which multiplies his power around a nearly uncountable amount
-Sees Fiction as Fiction
-Wields the Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/Powers instantly and/or steals them + passive reality warping).
-Abilities;
Absorption
Power nullification
Acausality
Afterimage Creation
Non-Physical Interaction
Purification
Paralysis
Dimension creation where he has supreme control
Resistance to Existence and Erasure Regeneration and immortality
Negation
Fusion
Transformations
Sense
Reality Alteration
Plot Hole Creation
Time manipulation and alteration
Invulnerability
Instant Reflexes/Reaction Time
Infinite Endurance
Infinite Mana
Infinite Ki
Infinite Force
Infinite speed
Immunity negation (Negates opponent
immunities)
Miracle Creation
Concept Manipulation/Control
Weapon Creation
Plot manipulation immunity
Attack Reflection
Immortality
Dualism
Causality
Possibility
Dimensional Travel
Empathetic manipulation
Matter manipulation
Age manipulation
Corrosion Inducement
Soul manipulation
Key Sword (Deletes Opponents abilities/hax/Powers permanently)
-He can destroy infinite multiverses, infinite outerverses, infinite hierarchies of dimensions and timelines with infinite possibilities and events with his presence alone, including extra dimensional coordinates and infinite aleph 3 dimensions (high outer dimensions) in base form. Has strength theft/negation as well.
-Unimaginable Battle Experience. Lived through all of DB franchise.
-Instantaneous/infinite speed. Irrelevant : Existed outside the flow of time comparable to Towa.
Weakness : None Notable.
-Beings beyond the concepts of reality and creation itself are scared of Xeno Goku and imply he transcends them.
-Control and access to and over any Dimension.
-Transcends our knowledge, the real humans and the audience/player that view Dragon ball as fiction. + Gazed into infinite possibilities of infinite timelines which is a omniscient feat.
-He can and has defeated characters that can alter the outcome of situations, control infinite realities and fate, infinite creation, possibility, gods that create outerverses and extra dimensional coordinates, immortal gods and gods who literally have control over all of concepts with absolute ease.
-He can tank and has tanked all of creation being erased. Stood point blank while creation getting destroyed. Zero observable damage.
- Was a threat to a flow of time by just charging up as confirmed by the Kaioshin and was prohibited from from turning ssj as that might crumble entirety of reality. SSJ4 limitbreaker would rip apart truth itself.
-Saved beats world by killing Demigra, towa and Mira who were threatening to destroy the and we're threatening to destroy low outer to infinite layers into high outer constructs and Xeno Goku in base form toyed with and killed them.
-Can alter reality, time, force, possibilities, chance, physics boundaries, laws. etc...
He have almost Every type of Manipulation, Transmutaion, Purfication, Probabilty Rewrite, Reality Warping, Immunity Negation, Boundry Manipulation, Meta-Miracle
Manipulation, Meta-Disaster Manipulation And still alot of more crazy hax.
-Can manipulate anyone's very life, time, Boundry, matter, space and reality, conceptual, probability, immunity,means absolute nothing to him. He have the ability to create miracles (Meta-Miracle Manipulation) and destroy them (Meta-Disaster Manipulation).
Separate note : Both the Anime and Game have shown Asian Mythology feats with Algebra and maths which have values like the Mahlo cardinals which are automatically boundless. Wiki search them if u wanna know more. So yeah here's the conclusion :
Tier : Baseline Boundless
Layers : Irrelevant due to cosmology explained earlier..