AI would read your inputs frame by frame so you can't do any cheese set-ups against them. They have specific AI-cheese tactics for every individual character that don't work against humans. E.g. abusing specific strings that they don't block, moves that they like to get hit by and specific oki after a combo. In TDR Jin's d1 is an anti AI move which gives a guaranteed stomp d2 afterwards. AI allways eats it and never techs. If Kazuya finnishes his juggle with df4,4 you can do 4~3 and they will just eat it without even trying to side roll. Lee Chaolan's d4,4,4,4 is an anti AI string. They never block it. Just eat the whole thing if you've managed to hit them with the first move. It's not a natural combo. That kind of stuff was removed since T6 but AI got weaker in general.
Wow i've never gotten a hearth before, and i feel so happy that it is from one of my favorite content creators! Thank you master im a big fan and like many of us you inspired me to main kazuya. Its such an honor to be helpful :D.
In Tekken 5 you can technically do a position reset by playing a move in the command list and then backing out quickly, it's a bit of a hassle but it works.
Could you look back at the devil within mini game for tekken 5 while you're covering the game. It's not as special as tekken force but it's super nostalgic for me when I played it as a kid
@o0Piffy0o yeah but not only was that not the case (a quarter of the cast was unusable garbage) but a game where a round can be over in 5 button presses isn't fun to play for a long time. That's why they updated the arcade version
Lets be real, Heihachi is like the face of these games. He will probably come back as some sort of firey, demon Heihachi like Jinpachi in DR. That way they can give him a demon voice and can keep up his legacy without the voiceactor.. Rest in peace.
if tekken 8 comes out in 2024 i would notion a full remasters of all pass games kind of like tekken hybrid just amp them up to at least 1080p or more and keep all the gameplay intact. though with 5 it would be cool to see the original and dark ressurection which sadly i only had a chance to play that one on psp as it took years for me to release they made a ps3 port. Just saying Harada i'd pay for it i am a sucker just keep the movies buried we don't really need nor want those.
Heihachi classic twin pistons was the best...hell sweep or spinning demons to demon up should've never remove from Heihachi...they should of remain forever.
You can also do d/f+3,2,4,4 on wall for better oki and more damage. Also other characters in T5 have similar setups for guaranteed damage on techroll i.e. Bruce.
I recently had my df2 as armor king (-12 on block) block punished with an electric is it safe to assume my opponent used a macro or is there some secret tech to do electrics in under 13 frames by saving or storing inputs or something?
MainMan, you are making all these videos about all of the most broken characters in the history of the series, but maybe you should make some about the absolutely worst ones. I think it could be pretty interesting.
Just using Tekken 7: Anna is flat out garbage as is Gigas, Marduk can't poke and his big body makes him a juggle magnet, Lee has really bad damage and is very execution heavy, Asuka is weak on offense and can't pressure opponents, and Yoshimitsu's entire movelist is situational with his self-harm moves never gaining the just frame recovery that his SC4 version has.
The first version of Tekken 5 dr arcade Heihachi was absolutely Beast. He had a low hitting throw and tons of tools that were removed in later iterations.
@@fasoooli2751 loved seeing people's reactions when they were hit with it. Because he didn't have it would not either home console versions. Thank goodness for tekkenzaibatsu having the movelists for me to know of it.
he meant 22 damage punisher that is 10 frame. he literally says it's 10 frames in the next sentence. I mean you can kinda tell it's not 22 frames since it's just a jab.
Joseph Su'a i simply cannot do his rage drive bro its soooo hard i cannot transform him into devil either i need help bro i do it fast but it doesn’t work
Movellandrone i did that bro but i did it super fast and nothing works i did ub+12 but he jus keeps kicking how do i do i? slow or fast i need step by step how to press buttons but appreciate the help :)
Heihachi Mishima is Tekken and should always be around.... killing him in Tekken 7 is a shame to the story franchise.... there's no Tekken without Heihachi.
@Tcb bct Heihachi is the emperor of tekken they don't know what they are doing.... they are killing off people favorite characters for what... Heihachi have to come back sometime down the road.
"probably dead" ROFL... you think being tossed off buildings, into lava, launched into space, are enough to kill any of these Mishimas? Even killing them can't kill them lol
Kazuya is not best at punishing in t7... Many chars have an easy i14 punish unlike kaz... Kazuyas b12 and 22 range is nothing special... Ws44 is like -6 on hit, WS12 whiffs... Jin, Paul, law and others are more consistent, Kazuya may have best WS punish but surely not standing punish
@Demo it does matter.. You almost never see -13 ewgf punish if you watch knee, crazy dongpal and the others... Best kazuyas never use the punish so there is no argument on that... Lee's 133(acid rain) into ddb4 is quite easy although it's just frame, that alone makes him on a par with Kazuya in terms of standing punishing
kazuyas b12 has decent range lol, it can punish get up kick mid quite consistently which jin or in general most of the characters cant do.. jins most of the time punish with 2,4 (which already lacks rangw) from -10-13 while kazuya has more alternatives there.. and btw, you cant just count his ws punishing out and say "he is not the best punisher in t7" lul. and jin is definitely less consistent since his punishers lack more in range than kazuyas
@@rangeer9 devil jins b1 has decent range, not Kazuyas b12.... Kazuya b12 whiffs Bryan's df23.. Some people really exaggerate his punish list... Heihachis 112 wall splats unlike Kazuyas.. heihachis i12 punish is also better than Kazuyas... Kaz is just very good at ws punish..
If every character in Tekken 7 would be that good/broken it would've made the game alot more exciting. instead of nerfing characters that are too good, buff those that needs buffing.
@@ibrushmyteethbeforeieatass1329 remember lars' "bug"? More than half of your life from a 12f punish. Do you think the game would be good if all the cast could do that?
Come on man, how many Tekken 5 videos you have about how overpowered and OP every fucking single character was. Jin was OP, heihachi was OP, Steve was OP, Fei Weng is way Op, Raven was hax etc. Is there any character that is NOT OP to you? Or you just suck at Tekken maybe?
If only I had this knowledge back then, man mashing buttons and losing to jinpachi for hours was not fun.
AI would read your inputs frame by frame so you can't do any cheese set-ups against them. They have specific AI-cheese tactics for every individual character that don't work against humans. E.g. abusing specific strings that they don't block, moves that they like to get hit by and specific oki after a combo. In TDR Jin's d1 is an anti AI move which gives a guaranteed stomp d2 afterwards. AI allways eats it and never techs. If Kazuya finnishes his juggle with df4,4 you can do 4~3 and they will just eat it without even trying to side roll. Lee Chaolan's d4,4,4,4 is an anti AI string. They never block it. Just eat the whole thing if you've managed to hit them with the first move. It's not a natural combo. That kind of stuff was removed since T6 but AI got weaker in general.
Ikr! I didnt even know how to sidestep... his unblock-able haduken was my nightmare ;(
InitiatedPig7 exactly the only way I know how to avoid it is by steve's 3 or 4 sidestep
@@Mr440c laughs in jin kazama doing only box triangle on azazel and killing him in perfect health in t6
Knowing most of the moveset.Being good at mix ups poke games and little combos is enough i think
RIP Heihachi, and RIP his awesome voice actors
HERMIT PURPLE!!!
Both of his voice actors, in fact
@@EDH10 yeah he said that. He said voice actorS
@@TheLordOfTheNight321 That’s because he edited it to say ‘actors’. When I first saw it, it just said ‘actor’
@@EDH10 oh bruhh sorry about that
If you want pos reset you can pause, go to command list, demonstrate a move and then quit the demo
Wow i've never gotten a hearth before, and i feel so happy that it is from one of my favorite content creators! Thank you master im a big fan and like many of us you inspired me to main kazuya.
Its such an honor to be helpful :D.
Hey he actually thanked you in the next video 😍😍😍🔥
@@Quran_eee really?, could you tell me which video pls?
th-cam.com/video/q8e7HWzgJD8/w-d-xo.html around 4:43 in the vid
@@mac8009 it's the Tekken 5 Devil Jin
In Tekken 5 you can technically do a position reset by playing a move in the command list and then backing out quickly, it's a bit of a hassle but it works.
or t5 dr where holding R3 or L3 for scrolling moves
He's not dead lol
I love how these videos just turn into combo practice at one point
im here visiting old tekken content since 8 is my first serious tekken , my god the wonders ive missed
Could you look back at the devil within mini game for tekken 5 while you're covering the game. It's not as special as tekken force but it's super nostalgic for me when I played it as a kid
He already did yo
THE FACT that you can do the combo take like half life just about THEN WHACK them with an unblockable is mental.
*Drops combo 5 times*
The Main Man: *Internal screams*
So tekken 5 is where all the characters is OP🤔
Best Tekken Game💯
You must be a Marvel player 😂
@o0Piffy0o yeah, i wonder why tekken 7 cant be like that?
Jin is a joke though
Nah not everyone though there were some that were trash as fuck
@o0Piffy0o yeah but not only was that not the case (a quarter of the cast was unusable garbage) but a game where a round can be over in 5 button presses isn't fun to play for a long time. That's why they updated the arcade version
"Heihachi Mishima, is dead."
Adrian the main man “it’s been a while since I’ve played this game” SWE
You should do T5.0 Roger. He had that weird inescapable tech trap with his stomp and a guaranteed launch afterwards.
T5 Roger was so broken/fun. Tech trap re-launch and death combo on the wall.
It's a shame they took away his gimmicks in later games.
“A 22 frame wall splat” lol
3 years later, who knew that would become pretty normal
I hope they bring back this stage in future updates.
Really digging these T5 videos man, keep up the content
bro, you should do a video in english sometime, they were amazing
The confused cat at dinner table meme is me watching TMM try to do his combo for the 50th time
I remember Heihachi's df12 was a natural combo and a 13f launcher 😂
Damn, the only way it could be worse is if some character could do death combos from a 10f jab 😳
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Bro some character can do a death combo from a 10f attack
@@rudyragner1322 exactly, that's the joke 😂
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What a nice stage!! And the music is so tribal..
therealmccoy2004 t5 as the best soundtracks
when I thought that kazuya is the broken character in tekken 5 until I see this old guy who actually punishes more
hi lisa
Not many knew/know this but T5 heihachi could get a dash cc cd+4,4,1 to d+1, oki after his fc d/f+4. Escpecially fun when close to the wall.
Akuma: I‘m about to end this man‘s whole career
You should do a devil jin video too
Lets be real, Heihachi is like the face of these games. He will probably come back as some sort of firey, demon Heihachi like Jinpachi in DR.
That way they can give him a demon voice and can keep up his legacy without the voiceactor..
Rest in peace.
Good to see he has almost the same level of punishment in Tekken 8
Df 1 2 was so good
Miss that move
Yo is there a playlist for all these discussion type videos?
if tekken 8 comes out in 2024 i would notion a full remasters of all pass games kind of like tekken hybrid just amp them up to at least 1080p or more and keep all the gameplay intact. though with 5 it would be cool to see the original and dark ressurection which sadly i only had a chance to play that one on psp as it took years for me to release they made a ps3 port. Just saying Harada i'd pay for it i am a sucker just keep the movies buried we don't really need nor want those.
Tekken 5 is the only reason I come back too just have fun
I use to play tekken using street fighter controls, just mashing. And occasionally would do something new and be like "DAAAAMMMN DID YOU SEE THAT"!!!
When’s the devil Jin story mode coming bro
You should revisit tekken 6 also
@Psykhedelic RPCS3 is pretty amazing right now man
the movement in this tekken is just so beautiful
Heihachi classic twin pistons was the best...hell sweep or spinning demons to demon up should've never remove from Heihachi...they should of remain forever.
I was playing tekken tag 1 and hehachi is super powerful in that game
You can also do d/f+3,2,4,4 on wall for better oki and more damage. Also other characters in T5 have similar setups for guaranteed damage on techroll i.e. Bruce.
Are you sure the 10string has better oki? Aren't the recoveries of 10string moves garbage?
@@ultralowspekken It's nothing suuuper great but still better than what he showed with f+4, d+4.
5:40 d/f+1, 2 twin pistons IS in Tekken 7. Heihachi end of story mode he gets this ;) Not sure if natural combo though
No it's not it doesn't launch
It's like the beginning of his rage art
Heihachi was in his prime in tekken 5, actually he is supposed to be in tekken 7 like he was in tekken 5
I say 3,4,and 5 are his best versions. 4 especially for me
@TheMainManSWE What are you Hardware Specs?
His d+1 juggle ender only connects when you time it just when opponent hits the ground
I gonna miss the crunch of the electrics
You should play some Tekken 4 and Tekken 5 online using Parsec!
And now akuma do 100 damage from a 10 f punish and a death combo with a launcher punish lol
I think all the Tekken games before 7 had more unforgiving inputs. Tekken Tag 2 was maybe a little more lenient than Tekken 6 but that's it.
so you think you can dance?
Revisit Tekken 3 and 6 xD
I recently had my df2 as armor king (-12 on block) block punished with an electric is it safe to assume my opponent used a macro or is there some secret tech to do electrics in under 13 frames by saving or storing inputs or something?
Abit late, but no you were either mashing or you were neutral guarding either case no
MainMan, you are making all these videos about all of the most broken characters in the history of the series, but maybe you should make some about the absolutely worst ones. I think it could be pretty interesting.
Just using Tekken 7: Anna is flat out garbage as is Gigas, Marduk can't poke and his big body makes him a juggle magnet, Lee has really bad damage and is very execution heavy, Asuka is weak on offense and can't pressure opponents, and Yoshimitsu's entire movelist is situational with his self-harm moves never gaining the just frame recovery that his SC4 version has.
@@Anomaly188 Why is Anna bad?
@@MrDamojak Very unsafe lows and the worst punishment in the game.
@@Anomaly188 I've always thought Steve's punishment is the worst. At least that's what a lot of people tell me.
@@MrDamojak Steve lacks the whiff punish launchers that many characters take for granted, but Steve is meant to be a counter hit character.
Video end at 06:42 the rest are youtube curse
I think Heihachi's T5 is my Heihachi
JDCR must've been unstoppable back then
Check out the t5 vid of him playing qudans back then. Jdcr got embarassed
Frankie Bloodshed Gaming *Qudans, Knee, Nin, Hao enters the chat*
After fc df4 you can get dash cd4441 for juggle but it’s hard
and yet somehow steve was miles ahead of him
The first version of Tekken 5 dr arcade Heihachi was absolutely Beast. He had a low hitting throw and tons of tools that were removed in later iterations.
ikr a throw with a mid punch
i hate his lows being deleted
he had b14 on t6
@@fasoooli2751 loved seeing people's reactions when they were hit with it. Because he didn't have it would not either home console versions.
Thank goodness for tekkenzaibatsu having the movelists for me to know of it.
@@hsinhaowang for real it's so dope
You should revisit Tekken vs stret fighter.
Nah
Having the execution to pull off any of heihachi’s stuff on pad makes me proud when TMM still has trouble 😂
combo vortex makes fools of us all
how do you play tekken 5? what platform are you playing on?
Atari 2600
Basically everyones op, so no ones op
Old Man ❤️
Man, and the bruce irvin in tekken 5 ?
where's the punish video?
But if almost EVERY character is kinda broken in a fighting game like T5, does that not mean that it is "balanced"!?
That's certainly the impression I'm getting lol
T5 Was Broken like a Wrecked Car
Jim isn't broken here
No lol but the anti-balancing community will have you believe it is
Haha then I shall call it a day 😁
70 dmg Flash Punch.
3:21 twentytwo frame punish.
That's not a punish, yo. That's a gamble
LMAO
he meant 22 damage punisher that is 10 frame. he literally says it's 10 frames in the next sentence. I mean you can kinda tell it's not 22 frames since it's just a jab.
@@FinalOddysee You think I'm stupid aeh
This is the shit that had Heihachi banned in Tekken 5.0
how do i turn kazuya into a devil on ps4 tekken 7 i cant do it i knoww the controls but its so hard!!!😩
If you do rage drive and connects, quickly hold uf for heavens gate extension and automatically transform to Devil. Or simply input ub1+2
Joseph Su'a i simply cannot do his rage drive bro its soooo hard i cannot transform him into devil either i need help bro i do it fast but it doesn’t work
@SkyKyro 77 If you are on controller try mapping one of the shoulder buttons to 1+2 and just input ub1+2 :)
Movellandrone i did that bro but i did it super fast and nothing works i did ub+12 but he jus keeps kicking how do i do i? slow or fast i need step by step how to press buttons but appreciate the help :)
Heihachi Mishima is Tekken and should always be around.... killing him in Tekken 7 is a shame to the story franchise.... there's no Tekken without Heihachi.
@Tcb bct Heihachi is the emperor of tekken they don't know what they are doing.... they are killing off people favorite characters for what... Heihachi have to come back sometime down the road.
"probably dead" ROFL... you think being tossed off buildings, into lava, launched into space, are enough to kill any of these Mishimas? Even killing them can't kill them lol
How were tekken 5 esl tournements then with all that broken stuff?
AFAIK high profile tournaments were played on updated arcade machines. That updated version was released on PSP as "Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection"
Kazuya is not best at punishing in t7...
Many chars have an easy i14 punish unlike kaz...
Kazuyas b12 and 22 range is nothing special...
Ws44 is like -6 on hit, WS12 whiffs...
Jin, Paul, law and others are more consistent, Kazuya may have best WS punish but surely not standing punish
Probably said that because of perfect electrics
@Demo it does matter..
You almost never see -13 ewgf punish if you watch knee, crazy dongpal and the others...
Best kazuyas never use the punish so there is no argument on that...
Lee's 133(acid rain) into ddb4 is quite easy although it's just frame, that alone makes him on a par with Kazuya in terms of standing punishing
Kain 1 ”acid rain quite easy” yeah sure lmao
kazuyas b12 has decent range lol, it can punish get up kick mid quite consistently which jin or in general most of the characters cant do.. jins most of the time punish with 2,4 (which already lacks rangw) from -10-13 while kazuya has more alternatives there.. and btw, you cant just count his ws punishing out and say "he is not the best punisher in t7" lul. and jin is definitely less consistent since his punishers lack more in range than kazuyas
@@rangeer9 devil jins b1 has decent range, not Kazuyas b12....
Kazuya b12 whiffs Bryan's df23..
Some people really exaggerate his punish list...
Heihachis 112 wall splats unlike Kazuyas.. heihachis i12 punish is also better than Kazuyas...
Kaz is just very good at ws punish..
Heihachi was OD for real. Also it must be mad annoying when you drop combos only when you're recording for youtube lol
Content starts at 4:14
thank me later
I was surprised when they made his twin pistons a bound extender in 6
No usual intro?
i always laugh when you try to do stuff for youtube.
Surya!
U r so obsessed with tekken 5
Cuz its good
All characters are broken that’s fare I guess 😂
Please Do nina or Dvj
Isn't ff3 -3 in T7?
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Tekken 3 is the best game ever made. Most of the characters are balanced. Except gon and dr b
And i thought tekken 4 is broken
"死ね(die)"? Heihachi is nicer in t7 😂
65 damage for -10 punish? How was Heihachi not more broken then Steve in T5?
the opponent doesnt have to worry about a 65 dmg punish on a -10 on block move, if they never get their -10 on block moves blocked in the first place
If every character in Tekken 7 would be that good/broken it would've made the game alot more exciting. instead of nerfing characters that are too good, buff those that needs buffing.
That's how you get a broken garbage game. No thanks.
@@gamwpanagia How the fuck is it broken if *ALL* the characters are broken?
@@SS_Sin_Of_Pride You're braindead
Seems like a good concept but you forget that dickheads exist
@@ibrushmyteethbeforeieatass1329 remember lars' "bug"? More than half of your life from a 12f punish. Do you think the game would be good if all the cast could do that?
Nani? No activated Windows? Shame!
Cringe
Tekken 3 WGF is MID!
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Come on man, how many Tekken 5 videos you have about how overpowered and OP every fucking single character was. Jin was OP, heihachi was OP, Steve was OP, Fei Weng is way Op, Raven was hax etc. Is there any character that is NOT OP to you? Or you just suck at Tekken maybe?
Gona be honest - these tekken 5 vids are just not interesting, obv cos game is old af.
Y the pad tho?
Ps2 horis can be hard to find
Also oad can still work
This is emulator
Yeah, i dont want to play the older games...