As someone who is just barely coming out of a really severe depressive episode, it's really nice to hear other people talk about that process. It's so hard, but like, I washed my sheets the other day and I was so happy I almost cried
I've been in that "I feel like I'm doing everything right, so why do I still feel this way?" flavor of depression for a while. Jarvis voicing that feeling made me feel so seen.
The rant jordan had about how if your reaction to a protest was focused on conduct you’re just ontologically blacksouled was like, crazy intense. honestly respect, that was fire
@@brookejon3695 1:52:32 is the timecode for the whole conversation, 1:53:40 is the timecode for the rant in particular if you, or anyone else, wants it :)
@@avamin.sif anything the people that didn't follow it from the beginning are kind of annoying because they just repeat the shit they heard on twitter 😭 anybody that doesn't think Drake ate in this beef is lying, he would have BURIED anyone not named Kendrick Lamar
As someone diagnosed with severe treatment resistant depression, severe OCD, and general anxiety, I wanted to share some good news- I’ve officially graduated therapy! I’ve been hospitalized a couple times, and had a long battle with sh and su1cid3, and I know that these issues will likely follow me through the rest of my life, but I want to remind everybody that it DOES get better. Maybe only by a little bit, and maybe not forever, but please please know that life isn’t always like this and you deserve happiness
As someone who was raised Traditional Roman Catholic, yes, Jordan. You are completely correct. They literally just give you a number of Hail Marys, maybe an our father, say the creed and ur officially sinless 😩
I remember my first (and only) communion A couple of hail Marys and I was wiped free of sin. I'm not sure I ever finished though, I might have sat there with my head down
Umm.. as someone who's currently a traditional Roman Catholic, that's not how it works at all. The Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation are what forgive sins (in particular, grave sins), because those are the means that Christ instituted for the forgiveness of sins. Your penance after confession isn't doing the hard work of obtaining forgiveness. It's more like spiritual exercise, meant to get you back on track, and to help you heal from the temporal consequences of your sin.
Back in the ole days, or so I’ve heard, and apparently in poorer countries where the catholic religion has a very strong hold still , penance was much harsher and was more akin to punishment (like being told to crawl for hours on end while praying etc ). It’s true that making amends is not what the focus is on.
I told my sister recently that BBL Drake was one of my favourite memes of the last year or so. Needless to say I have been thoroughly enjoying this latest instalment of lore.
clicked on the video for the kendrick/drake stuff but i just wanted to say that as someone who’s been watching you guys for awhile and is also palestinian, i really appreciate you guys making your stance clear and showing your support. much love to you both 💕
As an autistic dude with depression who just started entering a depressive episode, this episode helped me process things and feel validated. Thank you Jarvis and Chick-fil-A wikipedia man
Deeply appreciate Jarvis talking about how depression robs us of the lives we want to live. It’s so hard to explain to people how all my mental issues (major depression, dysthymia, ADHD, autism, anxiety, OCD) essentially make it so I cannot engage in any of the activities I love and end up just rotting in bed 99% of the time. I have wonderful friends who have helped me get out of my house more and keep me from fully isolating, but living alone means that most of my time is spent ruminating on all the things I wish I could do and feeling resentful about the life I could’ve had if my brain just worked the way it’s supposed to. Not to mention the things I *need* to do that also rarely get done. It’s frustrating and painful and embarrassing.
thanks for talking abt the campus protests guys 🫶🏻🫶🏻 a couple of my friends are suspended but thankfully they weren’t there to be arrested at the dismantling of our camp by the nypd. i was at school when it happened and it was insanely dystopian
unironically the reason i have to periodically take breaks from sad boyz 💀 not in the crush sense but in the “i really wish i could be friends with these guys irl” sense
i might have posted this already but the podcast maintenance phase really helped me with deconstructing my own internalized fatphobia (along with one of the hosts' books "you just need to lose weight and 19 other myths about fat people" and "what we don't talk about when we talk about fat"). remembering that weight and food are morally neutral is a constant process!
i love that podcasts/the hosts!! it’s been so informative and really reshaped my own view about my weight/how i interact with diet culture. found them because i started with You’re Wrong About and i’ve really enjoyed all the podcasts that group of hosts have made
I think I've said it before, but this conversation really hit me again: y'all make this stranger feel deeply not alone. Not in a way that makes me want to track down your zone improvement plan. Just in a way that make me want to keep trying. Thank you boyz
watching Jarvis make excited Not Like Us references before the official discussion segment made me smile so big, this culture shift is incredible to bear witness to and thanks guys for talking about it!!!
i swear to god every time jarvis breaks down the way his brain works with adhd and depression i spend the whole time going "yes! exactly! you put it into words!"
3:25 Roger gets a pickup fee for each restaurant, so you're really only getting more screwed over than normal if you ordered from a ghost kitchen and the person never went to more than one place.
@@rosebloxianI don't know if it's just for members or not, but when I use Door dash, it gives you the option to have yr dasher pick up a second order for you for no extra charge. I mean, other than what you spend on yr stuff. I never used it though cuz I feel bad enough having someone bring something to me.
the ai generated country songs at the end got me so good im crying and got a stomach cramp from laughing too much and also couldn’t breathe for a second im losing my mind
AI would have potential as a tool if it was set up ethically - because the thing with AI content is that the robot has no shame. It can create things that are funny in ways real human content can’t be because the machine has no way of distinguishing reasonable requests from insane request
@voidify3 the thing I love about generative ai is that it's like if an 8 year old read every single page of wikipedia. It has access to an incomprehensible amount of data but it's all surface level and it has no idea how any of these concepts connect with each other and it never questions itself
Can I just throw some love to Jordan ? He has such a lovely voice and he has such a contagious laugh. You're both such a fantastic combination of sad and sweet boyz
1:17:55 no because this is so true and a big part of why I’ve continued to respect J Cole ever since i was introduced to him early in high school. he’s being so genuine when he talks about wanting to lift other artists up, and that reflects blindingly in the way he treats his record label and the artists he works with. every time he hops on a track with Dreamville, JID, Earthgang, etc. I would joke about it feeling like dad rapping with his kids🤣 also i appreciate the JID shoutout as a massive fan of his😌 edit: lol I forgot I was literally wearing a jid shirt as i wrote this. I do love that lil guy.
JID shirt? So I assume you've been to a concert? Cause MAN I've been to quite a few concerts but JIDs was one of the best his energy is unmatched, cant wait for the next album I will forever say that last one will become a classic 10 years down the line it's so good
The convo about body image, weight and confidence really mirrors my own struggles at the moment. I also have had the exact same experience with getting back into basketball, which was so funny to hear. Thank you very much for talking so candidly about your feelings!
one of the worst parts of depression is failing to see the reason why you should get better, esp when you can't remember the last time you were truly okay. it's really refreshing to hear you talk about getting better and trying over and over again because i start to see hope and reason as well. maybe it is worth to try and try again, maybe i too should go and play some basketball in the evening. maybe everything will work out in the end
the real sad boyz talk hit me hard. accepting yourself is difficult and i'm still really struggling with it. i relate to everything you talked about so much i'm shedding some tears dude!! was not expecting to cry!!
God, Jarvis talking about trying to break the cycle of your depression “instincts” is too real. I’ve been in therapy for almost a decade (after having untreated depression for over a decade and being undiagnosed ADHD until a few years ago) and it’s been a daily commitment the entire time to be aware of my emotions and “instincts” in situations that would originally trigger/disregulate me, including canceling plans when I’m feeling down. I’m in no way “cured,” but it is hopeful to know my improvement is noticeable to myself and others, which means growth is possible.
good luck with the rest of your GCSEs, I remember em well! It's crazy to think back on how many there were, I had to do 12 so 24 exams I think? Maybe 25 because one had 3 papers iirc 😢 push through and know that you can only do your best, this summer is going to feel so nice after all of that pressure ❤
This ep is so good. I relate so much to where Jarvis is. My life is pretty good and pretty stable right now, but I'm just not doing all the things I want to be doing from day to day because of chronic fatigue and bad habits, and I'm working hard to get my schedule to a place to where doing the things I love is easier.
I love how Jarvis didn’t even think about the fact that maybe the barista recognized him from his work. I feel like it just shows how selfless and humble y’all are like wtf. Amazing convos thank you for sharing so openly ❤
appreciate jarvis being open about making moves to get out of his depressive episode and how tough it can be. it’s relieving hearing somebody else verbalize similar kind of things you’re also going through.
As a person who hasn't been small since elementary school it's helped me learning about the BMI scale being a made up concept that's not fully fleshed out. It's based off white men, aka eugenics shit, and no one else is considered. Of course I'm working on the ways I know to be proven to help you live healthier but I'm doing it at my pace and I'm not second guessing myself. Working on my mental has allowed space for me to work on everything else and it's a nice change of pace. May your journey to healing continue to be a safe one and you get to be your best self. Thanks for sharing this openly
Don't worry, Jarvis, I recently ordered two orders from UberEats too. But, to be fair, Uber encourages it. They force a 10 min countdown on you so you can add to your order from another restaurant. I don't know why I decided to do the 2nd order 😅, but I got 50% off my 1st order, which was pizza (it was a good deal). My 2nd order was from an asian pastry shop. I got an iced tea, some kind of crepe cake, and a free matcha cream puff. I never would have ordered from the 2nd place on my own, so no regrets. It was actually quite enjoyable. Once this depressive episode ends, I look forward to the day I can travel downtown and just grab a tea and cream puff from this shop again 😊
I’m a young Enby therapist in Texas, and I really really love how candidly and earnestly you both discuss your mental health and your strides to take care of yourselves. I really respect it and I’m sure it means a lot to a lot of listeners. :)
I think the best description of the Kendrick v Drake beef I saw was someone on twitter said it was exactly like the Key n Peele sketch with them doing UFC pre fight interviews
The other day I started with something nice for myself and then did several things I needed to do and I still had spoons left. Couldn't believe it. It's taken SO long, so much discomfort and practice and hard work to make it to this point and honestly...the most worth it. social and self-care cardio is wild. Sending all the support :)
I really appreciate Jarvis talking about his mental health struggles openly, I'm in a very similar situation and I think this may be the big motivator I needed to start socializing again now that Im not in any form of school.
I truly appreciate the "Taking Steps Toward Improvement" section of the podcast; I've regularly gone to therapy and worked on forgiving myself for the "mistakes" I made in the last few years. My young sister unfortunately passed in 2021, and I felt like I regressed as far as improving my depression/anxiety. I had a lot of guilt about her death for a lot of personal reasons, but I had to learn that I can't control things that happen to me, let alone things that happen to other people. Learning to not be hard on yourself is not easy, but baby steps 💞
I don't have a therapist but my personal journey of self improvement especially only being 21 has relied on reminding myself that the things I'm feeling are normal for me and my circumstance and my past and my history. im trans masc and a lesbian, im autistic, i have adhd, school was traumatic and stressful, money was tight, the generational trauma that was passed down to me, just all these things that result in who I am and how I interact with others and my relationship to myself. most I can do is catch myself in the moment im maybe being too harsh on myself and give myself the grace and support I deserve for just existing. especially being neurodivergent and queer, I need to be on my own team lmao I need to work with myself and have grace when I dont have that energy in me and also understand it's ok to want to have like support from other people like I need to rely on my friends more often and show my friends im there for them even if i might feel like my presence isnt needed or whatever. there's also the idea that to build community and have that social meter filled to the brim with all the good stuff, i need to let myself be helped too. It's okay to need help and ask for it, it's ok if I don't know how to do something, it's not embarassing if I happen to fuck up and this part is a little more depressing in terms of being trans and mentally ill but also part of my motivation to keep going and get better is that I don't wanna be another statistic. too many people want me gone for me not to continue living and thriving out of spite 💀 this was also my mentality as someone who was neurodivergent in the school system, cus this shit wasnt built for people like us and it's built to fail us. when i see a neurodivergent person like has a job or is finishing school i just have a big sense of pride like shit good for you
Literally this, man. -a 19yo ftm\bi, audhd'r w all the family trauma myself I'm proud of you, and fr the thing about too many people wanting me gone or dead not to keep living out of spite. I live out of spite long enough to find things worth living for, and im really thankful to be there right now. Sending you love, you're doing great just to still be here rn and i'm proud of you.
I also know the ache that is "I feel like I'm doing everything right and everything I'm supposed to do so why aren't I happy" all too well. There's no easy fix, but it is nice to know I'm not alone.
That is 100% me, and as someone with adhd it's so much an adhd thing its crazy to hear how similar those feelings are and the inability to initiate a goal or challenge you are really wanting to accomplish but can't can be so crushing that you just dissociate from everything in life
i love this podcast so much and its always so helpful to me. Im 18, and Im struggling. Im not doing good, i dropped out of school and i cant work. I need more help, and I dont know exactly what i need or how to get it. And there is so much fucking shame in the world and i want to wrap up all my balls of shame and hide them and cover them and make sure no one ever knows. But that is not going to help anything. step one is talking about it. And I am trying. And I dont want to be like this. If it was as easy as just trying harder id be better. Im ill, and its not my fault that I have the trauma that I do and that my body and brain has reacted in the ways it has. Im trying my best, but Im not gonna be able to do it by myself.
Try not to let the shame overpower you. You're right there's so much. I don't know anyone who isn't struggling with awful shame. Things will get better, don't give up
I really relate to Jarvis when he talks about his own feelings during therapy. For me, this year has been the best year in some time and I feel so different about myself and my future. I've been working through SH and Su*icidal thoughts on top of depression and anxiety, I know I'm making progress, I spend less time overthinking. But it's still so hard to remember yourself of that, to hve compassion for yourself and some days I still feel that emptiness of "why am I doing all of this?" Or "what's the point", especially when I feel down. It feels like you're working hard but still feeling unsatisfied. I know we'll all maki it, eventually, maybe some day. I just want to thank SadBoyz for helping me through this semester with all your rambling and personalities. Wishing both of you health and friends ❤
You guys talking about your experience with depression has genuinely helped me so much. I constantly feel like I’m being lazy because I’m so tired and unmotivated, and it helps a lot to know that other people feel the same way. It’s really hard to feel like your mental illness is valid when it isn’t completely debilitating, so thank you so much for sharing your experience and making me and others feel better
You mentioned parenting yourself, and something I realize but am still in the process of learning/actually doing is that adulthood isn’t not needing to be parented anymore, it’s just taking over the job yourself.
I think this real look at what you are currently dealing with and how you guys are doing it is so valuable. I cant imagine how it would be for me to hear stuff like this before I knew how to deal with mental issues. Ive come so far but hearing people talk like this with this terminology 5 years ago could have definetly made a differenve.
as someone who is currently recovering from an ed that has taken over my life the last two years tysm to jarvis for talking about this stuff it’s hard but we all appreciate him
i really really enjoyed the sad boys part of the pod, some of the stuff you guys talked about i had literally never seen anyone verbalize before. i genuinely shed a tear or two at some parts because of how much i related to what you guys were expressing. thanks
Just have to say that as entertaining as I always find the podcast and your channels, the most impactful thing you guys do is talk about your feelings and thoughts about yourself. Talking about depression and body image openly like this seriously makes a difference in at least my life because it really helps tell my brain that it's not shameful to struggle with these things. I'm really grateful for the vulnerability you both have to talk about your real feelings and struggles with mental health on this podcast.
I feel like the ongoing bit about Jordan being pre-approved for the Paypal card would be the perfect segue into telling us how we (the listeners) have been pre-approved for Sad Boyz nights and would be a good silly way to plug Nights lol
i feel late to the party but i just wanted to say that as a guy who struggles with my own relationship with food i feel extremely seen when you guys bring up mental health relating to your physical health and i’ve never found creators on the internet that i can resonate with so heavily. thanks boyz
I've been going through the same kind of thing Jarvis describes at around 25:00 and so this episode (like so many sad boyz episodes) was really affirming to me, thank you ❤
not that i have not been appreciating the recent episodes, they've been great and i loved the one with eddy, but i also deeply appreciate the revisitation of properly downtrodden sad boys
i just wanted to thank you guys for opening up about your struggles. it makes me feel not alone on a very tough time in my life, and i feel better knowing people i look up to are also going through something similar :) also thank you for speaking out about palestine and the protests !!
I related so hard to what Jarvis was saying this episode 😭 I don't have depression but I have real bad generalized anxiety disorder, and when you said "It doesn't feel fair" that was just sooooo real. Just putting in an insane amount of effort for minimal results, but knowing you need to keep pushing or else you'll never be happy. It's so tough but we got this someday frfr
that segment about depression hit really hard. i've been pretty good recently, but it still sucks so hard and it's both terrible and great to know that i'm not the only one who feels like that. thank you guys for talking openly about this stuff, it really does help
I was just watching your early videos and you had mentioned that Simone arrived in New York in late June and I was like WAITADAMNMINUTE and now I’m just fucking fully losing it
1:52:00 i go to an EXTREMELY liberal school. we had an encampment up for TWO days before the president of our school called 150 state troopers who brought batons, guns with rubber bullets, k-9s and even a fucking helicopter. they waited until 10pm to start arresting everyone. earlier in the day administration said to take down the tents by 7 pm (which we did) and they did not clarify at all what may happen if we didn’t comply. everyone in the encampment was arrested (132) and the cops chased down people recording their brutality. the president is having a REAL tough time now lmao. most faculty and students are up in arms
I always feel so seen when you guys discuss having difficulty with your social battery. I would also like to expand my battery capability. I like how you referred to it like social cardio. That's exactly what it feels like 😅 keep it up guys love you ❤️❤️❤️
i am currently in full time treatment for my depression, anxiety, and ptsd. early in the video jarvis walked us through the steps he took to feel ready and able to show up on the court and have fun playing basketball. that’s exactly what they call “behavioral activation” in the DBT world and for some reason the way he talked about it made it make more sense than any number of hours sitting in a room full of other mentally ill adults ever could have. literally one step at a time until the thing feels possible, and then surprising yourself with how capable you really are. taking baby steps IS hard when your brain is literally working against you and your joy because it has been conditioned to believe that it’s helpful. idk, thanks guys. what you do here is important and impressive and so so appreciated
"If i was a pedo wouldn't I have been caught" is the new "I'm not a groomer I'm a loser"
Honestly i think it's a lot worse.
@@nine9nine9 It's definitely worse, "I'm not a groomer I'm a loser" is funny, "if I was a pedo wouldn't I have been caught" is just pathetic.
@@jlkjlkjkljklj9162 yeah, people just suck tbh
As someone who is just barely coming out of a really severe depressive episode, it's really nice to hear other people talk about that process. It's so hard, but like, I washed my sheets the other day and I was so happy I almost cried
i’m proud of u!
Same, depression sucks ass, and it's important to take pleasure in the little things
Truely a wonderful feeling and thanks for reminding me I should replace my sheets
So proud of you! It’s not easy! You should be proud of yourself too!
You’re doing amazing. So proud of you❤️
I've been in that "I feel like I'm doing everything right, so why do I still feel this way?" flavor of depression for a while. Jarvis voicing that feeling made me feel so seen.
The rant jordan had about how if your reaction to a protest was focused on conduct you’re just ontologically blacksouled was like, crazy intense. honestly respect, that was fire
I can't find that moment, when was that?
@@brookejon3695 1:52:32 is the timecode for the whole conversation, 1:53:40 is the timecode for the rant in particular if you, or anyone else, wants it :)
@@brookejon3695I would like to know as well
@@brookejon3695 1:53:50
@@brookejon3695 1:53:53
As someone who barely knows the drake vs Kendrick lore these are just the guys I needed to cover it
Agreed
I'm the opposite, I know TOO MUCH about it but I wanna hear their perspective anyways
@@avamin.sif anything the people that didn't follow it from the beginning are kind of annoying because they just repeat the shit they heard on twitter 😭 anybody that doesn't think Drake ate in this beef is lying, he would have BURIED anyone not named Kendrick Lamar
@@lookatdemijipers ate what? dirt?
@@lookatdemijiperswhat about Pusha T
“beef review: moooo”is one of the funniest things jordan said in the whole episode, and jordan says a LOT of funny shit
RIGHT?!? omg i couldnt help but giggle to myself and go “mooooo”
As someone diagnosed with severe treatment resistant depression, severe OCD, and general anxiety, I wanted to share some good news- I’ve officially graduated therapy!
I’ve been hospitalized a couple times, and had a long battle with sh and su1cid3, and I know that these issues will likely follow me through the rest of my life, but I want to remind everybody that it DOES get better. Maybe only by a little bit, and maybe not forever, but please please know that life isn’t always like this and you deserve happiness
Congratulations!! I'm so proud of you❤
congratulations!! so proud of you and wishing you all the best💕
Congratulations! I hope this isn't too personal of a question, but how did you deal with things like school and or work?
Congratulations on that!
Congratulations pookie!!! So proud of you for your resilience and thank you for the encouraging words❤
i’ve been incorporating “x bastard” into my speech lately and this episode was truly a delight for me
calling people rat bastards in hypixel is a new pastime for me
SAME
@@ecliiipsssse i first heard rat-batstard in a videogame dunkey video
@@spinecho609 yeah its a common expression, its been around for decades
friend of mine back in the day used to call me a commie rat bastard when we'd game 😭😭
As someone who was raised Traditional Roman Catholic, yes, Jordan. You are completely correct. They literally just give you a number of Hail Marys, maybe an our father, say the creed and ur officially sinless 😩
Yo another raised SSPX person? I always got do X number of rosarys.
I remember my first (and only) communion
A couple of hail Marys and I was wiped free of sin. I'm not sure I ever finished though, I might have sat there with my head down
Umm.. as someone who's currently a traditional Roman Catholic, that's not how it works at all.
The Sacraments of Baptism and Reconciliation are what forgive sins (in particular, grave sins), because those are the means that Christ instituted for the forgiveness of sins.
Your penance after confession isn't doing the hard work of obtaining forgiveness. It's more like spiritual exercise, meant to get you back on track, and to help you heal from the temporal consequences of your sin.
@@evanc.1591 yeah, no focus on victims of transgressions or actually making amends. It's just jabbering and poof your sins are gone.
Back in the ole days, or so I’ve heard, and apparently in poorer countries where the catholic religion has a very strong hold still , penance was much harsher and was more akin to punishment (like being told to crawl for hours on end while praying etc ). It’s true that making amends is not what the focus is on.
one thing about jordan he's going to make a DnD ability score analogy
*one of the BEST things about Jordan ✨️
I told my sister recently that BBL Drake was one of my favourite memes of the last year or so. Needless to say I have been thoroughly enjoying this latest instalment of lore.
The merengue version that goes "El Drake! BBL, BBL" is so fun to dance to.
Jarvis: "Chick-fil-a's not open on Sundays."
Jordan: "It's full! ...They're blessing all the chicken."
clicked on the video for the kendrick/drake stuff but i just wanted to say that as someone who’s been watching you guys for awhile and is also palestinian, i really appreciate you guys making your stance clear and showing your support. much love to you both 💕
“Live in a volcano that’s active” god what a good line Jordan lmao
As an autistic dude with depression who just started entering a depressive episode, this episode helped me process things and feel validated. Thank you Jarvis and Chick-fil-A wikipedia man
jarvis’ hair looks SO NICE!! it’s cool to see his hair journey 🥹💛
Bro got those majestic coils 😭🥹
I know, I just want to touch it 🙃
Deeply appreciate Jarvis talking about how depression robs us of the lives we want to live. It’s so hard to explain to people how all my mental issues (major depression, dysthymia, ADHD, autism, anxiety, OCD) essentially make it so I cannot engage in any of the activities I love and end up just rotting in bed 99% of the time. I have wonderful friends who have helped me get out of my house more and keep me from fully isolating, but living alone means that most of my time is spent ruminating on all the things I wish I could do and feeling resentful about the life I could’ve had if my brain just worked the way it’s supposed to. Not to mention the things I *need* to do that also rarely get done. It’s frustrating and painful and embarrassing.
❤❤❤ oof too relatable
"I noticed you don't have a TH-cam channel" i laughed so hard i almost choked on nothing lmaoo
thanks for talking abt the campus protests guys 🫶🏻🫶🏻 a couple of my friends are suspended but thankfully they weren’t there to be arrested at the dismantling of our camp by the nypd. i was at school when it happened and it was insanely dystopian
my mom keeps her car radio on our local country station and without exaggeration, 90% of recent releases sound like that first AI song
having to stop watching a show because you'll never meet them is the realest thing jarvis has ever said
I'm so confused what this means
@@brookejon3695When Jarvis said he stopped watching fallout because he had too big of a crush on the actress and it was making him sad
unironically the reason i have to periodically take breaks from sad boyz 💀 not in the crush sense but in the “i really wish i could be friends with these guys irl” sense
the um actually shoutout MADE MY DAY, i can’t wait to see the boyz on this season!!
Wait really???? Theyre actually appearing on Um, Actually?
@@StabbyMcCutBleedJarvis, at least! He was teased in the preview for the newest season!!!!
@@zoes.9825both of them are! :)
@@zoes.9825 i’m almost positive i spotted jordan on the couch next to him but i may have hallucinated it
@@zoes.9825 um, actually, i just checked because i wasn’t sure and jordan was also there, with friend of the show demi adejuyigbe ☝️🤓
i might have posted this already but the podcast maintenance phase really helped me with deconstructing my own internalized fatphobia (along with one of the hosts' books "you just need to lose weight and 19 other myths about fat people" and "what we don't talk about when we talk about fat"). remembering that weight and food are morally neutral is a constant process!
i love that podcasts/the hosts!! it’s been so informative and really reshaped my own view about my weight/how i interact with diet culture.
found them because i started with You’re Wrong About and i’ve really enjoyed all the podcasts that group of hosts have made
@@sheamarie9648 you might enjoy Behind the Bastards and its spiritual opposite Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff
@@sheamarie9648 you might enjoy Behind the Bastards and its spiritual opposite Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff
I think I've said it before, but this conversation really hit me again: y'all make this stranger feel deeply not alone. Not in a way that makes me want to track down your zone improvement plan. Just in a way that make me want to keep trying. Thank you boyz
Sad Boyz is my favorite thing to put on in the background while doing homework or cleaning
so real! i'm making soup rn
Damnit im doing my homework right now 😭
sad boyz is my favorite thing to put on while doing absolutely nothing productive
I like putting it on while I play video games, personally
Playing Tiny Tina's Wonderlands rn
For me it’s crocheting or knitting :D
watching Jarvis make excited Not Like Us references before the official discussion segment made me smile so big, this culture shift is incredible to bear witness to and thanks guys for talking about it!!!
i swear to god every time jarvis breaks down the way his brain works with adhd and depression i spend the whole time going "yes! exactly! you put it into words!"
3:25 Roger gets a pickup fee for each restaurant, so you're really only getting more screwed over than normal if you ordered from a ghost kitchen and the person never went to more than one place.
Yeah like ofc you pay more cause he also had to spend the gas to get to both places
Good for Roger!
@@rosebloxianI don't know if it's just for members or not, but when I use Door dash, it gives you the option to have yr dasher pick up a second order for you for no extra charge. I mean, other than what you spend on yr stuff. I never used it though cuz I feel bad enough having someone bring something to me.
Does Uber Eats declare ghost kitchens now? Because if they don't who knows whether or not Jarvis got screwed on that front
@@Sugarman96 Uber Eats doesn’t, but he told us where he ate so we know he didn’t lol
the ai generated country songs at the end got me so good im crying and got a stomach cramp from laughing too much and also couldn’t breathe for a second im losing my mind
AI would have potential as a tool if it was set up ethically - because the thing with AI content is that the robot has no shame. It can create things that are funny in ways real human content can’t be because the machine has no way of distinguishing reasonable requests from insane request
@voidify3 the thing I love about generative ai is that it's like if an 8 year old read every single page of wikipedia. It has access to an incomprehensible amount of data but it's all surface level and it has no idea how any of these concepts connect with each other and it never questions itself
I am once again coming here to say that jarvis and jordan are cutie patooties, keep tootin! 👍
Can I just throw some love to Jordan ? He has such a lovely voice and he has such a contagious laugh. You're both such a fantastic combination of sad and sweet boyz
1:17:55 no because this is so true and a big part of why I’ve continued to respect J Cole ever since i was introduced to him early in high school. he’s being so genuine when he talks about wanting to lift other artists up, and that reflects blindingly in the way he treats his record label and the artists he works with. every time he hops on a track with Dreamville, JID, Earthgang, etc. I would joke about it feeling like dad rapping with his kids🤣
also i appreciate the JID shoutout as a massive fan of his😌
edit: lol I forgot I was literally wearing a jid shirt as i wrote this. I do love that lil guy.
JID shirt? So I assume you've been to a concert? Cause MAN I've been to quite a few concerts but JIDs was one of the best his energy is unmatched, cant wait for the next album I will forever say that last one will become a classic 10 years down the line it's so good
As a longtime Sad Boyz watcher and college student protestor, thank you both for your solidarity 🍉
The BBL Drizzy “beat” was so funny 🤣
You haven't lived with a partner who WON'T STOP singing it 😥😂😊
The way I am so happy it’s guving exposure to artists that deserve larger platforms while taking down someone that abused theirs is kinda poetic.
The convo about body image, weight and confidence really mirrors my own struggles at the moment. I also have had the exact same experience with getting back into basketball, which was so funny to hear. Thank you very much for talking so candidly about your feelings!
The sax version was done by Masego, who actually has credits on CLB for a sample they cleared from him
It’s great how close you both are with Eddy, Ive always loved his videos and you guys work well together.
one of the worst parts of depression is failing to see the reason why you should get better, esp when you can't remember the last time you were truly okay. it's really refreshing to hear you talk about getting better and trying over and over again because i start to see hope and reason as well. maybe it is worth to try and try again, maybe i too should go and play some basketball in the evening. maybe everything will work out in the end
the real sad boyz talk hit me hard. accepting yourself is difficult and i'm still really struggling with it. i relate to everything you talked about so much i'm shedding some tears dude!! was not expecting to cry!!
God, Jarvis talking about trying to break the cycle of your depression “instincts” is too real. I’ve been in therapy for almost a decade (after having untreated depression for over a decade and being undiagnosed ADHD until a few years ago) and it’s been a daily commitment the entire time to be aware of my emotions and “instincts” in situations that would originally trigger/disregulate me, including canceling plans when I’m feeling down. I’m in no way “cured,” but it is hopeful to know my improvement is noticeable to myself and others, which means growth is possible.
This episode came out seconds after my first GCSE exam, very nice comfort to hear the boys talking after that stress
good luck with the rest of your GCSEs, I remember em well! It's crazy to think back on how many there were, I had to do 12 so 24 exams I think? Maybe 25 because one had 3 papers iirc 😢 push through and know that you can only do your best, this summer is going to feel so nice after all of that pressure ❤
@@RealElongatedMuskrat Ay thanks for that! I cant wait for that sigh of relief once I finally leave the exam hall for the final time lol
good luck! a levels are killing me rn lol
@@opalitecrystal good luck w ur a levels !! and go to bed lol its 2am in the uk
@@whatthehelliot it’s 1am where i am but i should still be on bed lol will do
This ep is so good. I relate so much to where Jarvis is. My life is pretty good and pretty stable right now, but I'm just not doing all the things I want to be doing from day to day because of chronic fatigue and bad habits, and I'm working hard to get my schedule to a place to where doing the things I love is easier.
Exact same place! Keep the momentum, and we got this!
I love how Jarvis didn’t even think about the fact that maybe the barista recognized him from his work. I feel like it just shows how selfless and humble y’all are like wtf. Amazing convos thank you for sharing so openly ❤
I love Jordan doing a different intro every time
Everytime Sadboyz mentions collegehumor or anything Drop Out I feel an insane amount of joy as my favorite people aknowledge my favorite content!
yesss i loved them on um actually
appreciate jarvis being open about making moves to get out of his depressive episode and how tough it can be. it’s relieving hearing somebody else verbalize similar kind of things you’re also going through.
As a person who hasn't been small since elementary school it's helped me learning about the BMI scale being a made up concept that's not fully fleshed out. It's based off white men, aka eugenics shit, and no one else is considered. Of course I'm working on the ways I know to be proven to help you live healthier but I'm doing it at my pace and I'm not second guessing myself. Working on my mental has allowed space for me to work on everything else and it's a nice change of pace. May your journey to healing continue to be a safe one and you get to be your best self. Thanks for sharing this openly
Oh and even though Panera is so basic/plain I love the bagels 😅 occasionally there was a good sandwich or panini and drink combo but only occasion.
omg i've been waiting for y'alls opinion on this
Don't worry, Jarvis, I recently ordered two orders from UberEats too. But, to be fair, Uber encourages it. They force a 10 min countdown on you so you can add to your order from another restaurant. I don't know why I decided to do the 2nd order 😅, but I got 50% off my 1st order, which was pizza (it was a good deal). My 2nd order was from an asian pastry shop. I got an iced tea, some kind of crepe cake, and a free matcha cream puff. I never would have ordered from the 2nd place on my own, so no regrets. It was actually quite enjoyable. Once this depressive episode ends, I look forward to the day I can travel downtown and just grab a tea and cream puff from this shop again 😊
i’m an uber eats driver and i turn on sad boys when i want something fun to listen to while i drive:)
Were you the Uber eats driver in the episode?
@@gloomy_glamour i was not, sadly in kentucky😔😔
thank you guys so much for speaking up about the protests, so so unbelievably refreshing to hear and absolutely made my day 🇵🇸❤️
I’m a young Enby therapist in Texas, and I really really love how candidly and earnestly you both discuss your mental health and your strides to take care of yourselves.
I really respect it and I’m sure it means a lot to a lot of listeners. :)
I think the best description of the Kendrick v Drake beef I saw was someone on twitter said it was exactly like the Key n Peele sketch with them doing UFC pre fight interviews
I swear i thought kendrick was doing some deep state lore with the embassy line
Dropping lore about a fantasy?
@@brookejon3695 what do you mean? Like about kendrick or the deep state?
The other day I started with something nice for myself and then did several things I needed to do and I still had spoons left. Couldn't believe it. It's taken SO long, so much discomfort and practice and hard work to make it to this point and honestly...the most worth it.
social and self-care cardio is wild. Sending all the support :)
Hot boyz speak out for a FREE PALESTINE!!!🇵🇸🍉🙌🏼💅🏻 thank you for standing in solidarity and speaking up👏🏼👏🏼
I really appreciate Jarvis talking about his mental health struggles openly, I'm in a very similar situation and I think this may be the big motivator I needed to start socializing again now that Im not in any form of school.
Wrote the comment before Jordan started talking about his, honestly just really happy that these guys are open and honest about it
I cannot stop consuming content about this beef, I'm so glad my fav internet boys are covering it 💜
took me way too long to realise they were talking about the Miles Morales NPC guy and not Tom Holland
Oh noo :0 lmao
the boys are looking very spiffy this episode
Jarvis is so real for liking the first two Maroon 5 albums, they had straight up bangers back then
Going through a rough time and the AI alcoholic country song made me laugh the hardest I have in weeks. Thank you Sad Boyz 🫶
I truly appreciate the "Taking Steps Toward Improvement" section of the podcast; I've regularly gone to therapy and worked on forgiving myself for the "mistakes" I made in the last few years. My young sister unfortunately passed in 2021, and I felt like I regressed as far as improving my depression/anxiety. I had a lot of guilt about her death for a lot of personal reasons, but I had to learn that I can't control things that happen to me, let alone things that happen to other people. Learning to not be hard on yourself is not easy, but baby steps 💞
I love that one line turned Metro into Heihachi Mishima and held his own King of Iron Diss Tournament
I don't have a therapist but my personal journey of self improvement especially only being 21 has relied on reminding myself that the things I'm feeling are normal for me and my circumstance and my past and my history. im trans masc and a lesbian, im autistic, i have adhd, school was traumatic and stressful, money was tight, the generational trauma that was passed down to me, just all these things that result in who I am and how I interact with others and my relationship to myself. most I can do is catch myself in the moment im maybe being too harsh on myself and give myself the grace and support I deserve for just existing. especially being neurodivergent and queer, I need to be on my own team lmao I need to work with myself and have grace when I dont have that energy in me and also understand it's ok to want to have like support from other people like I need to rely on my friends more often and show my friends im there for them even if i might feel like my presence isnt needed or whatever. there's also the idea that to build community and have that social meter filled to the brim with all the good stuff, i need to let myself be helped too. It's okay to need help and ask for it, it's ok if I don't know how to do something, it's not embarassing if I happen to fuck up
and this part is a little more depressing in terms of being trans and mentally ill but also part of my motivation to keep going and get better is that I don't wanna be another statistic. too many people want me gone for me not to continue living and thriving out of spite 💀 this was also my mentality as someone who was neurodivergent in the school system, cus this shit wasnt built for people like us and it's built to fail us. when i see a neurodivergent person like has a job or is finishing school i just have a big sense of pride like shit good for you
Literally this, man. -a 19yo ftm\bi, audhd'r w all the family trauma myself
I'm proud of you, and fr the thing about too many people wanting me gone or dead not to keep living out of spite. I live out of spite long enough to find things worth living for, and im really thankful to be there right now. Sending you love, you're doing great just to still be here rn and i'm proud of you.
I also know the ache that is "I feel like I'm doing everything right and everything I'm supposed to do so why aren't I happy" all too well. There's no easy fix, but it is nice to know I'm not alone.
jarvis, i understand your feelings about ella purnell so well… she is drop dead gorgeous and so charismatic 💔 also the fallout show rocks!!!
That is 100% me, and as someone with adhd it's so much an adhd thing its crazy to hear how similar those feelings are and the inability to initiate a goal or challenge you are really wanting to accomplish but can't can be so crushing that you just dissociate from everything in life
i love this podcast so much and its always so helpful to me. Im 18, and Im struggling. Im not doing good, i dropped out of school and i cant work. I need more help, and I dont know exactly what i need or how to get it. And there is so much fucking shame in the world and i want to wrap up all my balls of shame and hide them and cover them and make sure no one ever knows. But that is not going to help anything. step one is talking about it. And I am trying. And I dont want to be like this. If it was as easy as just trying harder id be better. Im ill, and its not my fault that I have the trauma that I do and that my body and brain has reacted in the ways it has. Im trying my best, but Im not gonna be able to do it by myself.
Hope your situation improves soon
Try not to let the shame overpower you. You're right there's so much. I don't know anyone who isn't struggling with awful shame. Things will get better, don't give up
Love the podcast! Can’t wait for another Brian David Gilbert episode, I really like what his energy brings to the show
dude the way you guys talk about insecurities and depression resonates so hard with me. really needed this today. thanks for all ylu do
love Jarvis's new glasses!!
I’m just glad y’all put out a podcast episode out in general lol and you don’t even have to do that like I’m just grateful y’all exist tbh
I really relate to Jarvis when he talks about his own feelings during therapy. For me, this year has been the best year in some time and I feel so different about myself and my future. I've been working through SH and Su*icidal thoughts on top of depression and anxiety, I know I'm making progress, I spend less time overthinking.
But it's still so hard to remember yourself of that, to hve compassion for yourself and some days I still feel that emptiness of "why am I doing all of this?" Or "what's the point", especially when I feel down. It feels like you're working hard but still feeling unsatisfied.
I know we'll all maki it, eventually, maybe some day. I just want to thank SadBoyz for helping me through this semester with all your rambling and personalities. Wishing both of you health and friends ❤
You guys talking about your experience with depression has genuinely helped me so much. I constantly feel like I’m being lazy because I’m so tired and unmotivated, and it helps a lot to know that other people feel the same way. It’s really hard to feel like your mental illness is valid when it isn’t completely debilitating, so thank you so much for sharing your experience and making me and others feel better
You mentioned parenting yourself, and something I realize but am still in the process of learning/actually doing is that adulthood isn’t not needing to be parented anymore, it’s just taking over the job yourself.
I think this real look at what you are currently dealing with and how you guys are doing it is so valuable. I cant imagine how it would be for me to hear stuff like this before I knew how to deal with mental issues. Ive come so far but hearing people talk like this with this terminology 5 years ago could have definetly made a differenve.
And now you know how I feel watching Sad Boyz knowing Jordan Adika will never know who I am 🥹😢
Its so validating to hear them talk about dealing with depression, its nice to see people open up about the feelings i have too
as someone who is currently recovering from an ed that has taken over my life the last two years tysm to jarvis for talking about this stuff it’s hard but we all appreciate him
thanks for supporting the protestors and Palestine, but just a heads up that the description spells Barnard wrong! love from a Columbia student
i really really enjoyed the sad boys part of the pod, some of the stuff you guys talked about i had literally never seen anyone verbalize before. i genuinely shed a tear or two at some parts because of how much i related to what you guys were expressing. thanks
Just have to say that as entertaining as I always find the podcast and your channels, the most impactful thing you guys do is talk about your feelings and thoughts about yourself. Talking about depression and body image openly like this seriously makes a difference in at least my life because it really helps tell my brain that it's not shameful to struggle with these things.
I'm really grateful for the vulnerability you both have to talk about your real feelings and struggles with mental health on this podcast.
I feel like the ongoing bit about Jordan being pre-approved for the Paypal card would be the perfect segue into telling us how we (the listeners) have been pre-approved for Sad Boyz nights and would be a good silly way to plug Nights lol
i feel late to the party but i just wanted to say that as a guy who struggles with my own relationship with food i feel extremely seen when you guys bring up mental health relating to your physical health and i’ve never found creators on the internet that i can resonate with so heavily. thanks boyz
I was listening to the songs and going "wow can't wait for the Boyz to talk about this"
I've been going through the same kind of thing Jarvis describes at around 25:00 and so this episode (like so many sad boyz episodes) was really affirming to me, thank you ❤
not that i have not been appreciating the recent episodes, they've been great and i loved the one with eddy, but i also deeply appreciate the revisitation of properly downtrodden sad boys
Love the “Pop Pop” magnitude reference 😂
i just wanted to thank you guys for opening up about your struggles. it makes me feel not alone on a very tough time in my life, and i feel better knowing people i look up to are also going through something similar :) also thank you for speaking out about palestine and the protests !!
0:07 bro you freaked me the fuck out lmfao, I just got of work
I related so hard to what Jarvis was saying this episode 😭 I don't have depression but I have real bad generalized anxiety disorder, and when you said "It doesn't feel fair" that was just sooooo real. Just putting in an insane amount of effort for minimal results, but knowing you need to keep pushing or else you'll never be happy. It's so tough but we got this someday frfr
that segment about depression hit really hard. i've been pretty good recently, but it still sucks so hard and it's both terrible and great to know that i'm not the only one who feels like that. thank you guys for talking openly about this stuff, it really does help
I was just watching your early videos and you had mentioned that Simone arrived in New York in late June and I was like WAITADAMNMINUTE and now I’m just fucking fully losing it
jordan is like bdg on um actually because he looks stuff up and they are legally obligated to confirm that jordan can leave whenever he wants
I fell asleep at the start of the video when they posted but I'm glad because this is really what I needed today. Thank you guys.
it’s like you guys KNEW i had to pack up my dorm room, ty boyz
1:52:00
i go to an EXTREMELY liberal school. we had an encampment up for TWO days before the president of our school called 150 state troopers who brought batons, guns with rubber bullets, k-9s and even a fucking helicopter. they waited until 10pm to start arresting everyone.
earlier in the day administration said to take down the tents by 7 pm (which we did) and they did not clarify at all what may happen if we didn’t comply.
everyone in the encampment was arrested (132) and the cops chased down people recording their brutality.
the president is having a REAL tough time now lmao. most faculty and students are up in arms
I always feel so seen when you guys discuss having difficulty with your social battery. I would also like to expand my battery capability. I like how you referred to it like social cardio. That's exactly what it feels like 😅 keep it up guys love you ❤️❤️❤️
i am currently in full time treatment for my depression, anxiety, and ptsd. early in the video jarvis walked us through the steps he took to feel ready and able to show up on the court and have fun playing basketball. that’s exactly what they call “behavioral activation” in the DBT world and for some reason the way he talked about it made it make more sense than any number of hours sitting in a room full of other mentally ill adults ever could have. literally one step at a time until the thing feels possible, and then surprising yourself with how capable you really are. taking baby steps IS hard when your brain is literally working against you and your joy because it has been conditioned to believe that it’s helpful. idk, thanks guys. what you do here is important and impressive and so so appreciated