There's also different client which has the same graphics as original. I believe build and shoot launcher is that client. It has limited screen resolution so people say they use betterspades client also to fix this (never tried it)
Just so people know, this game is beloved by many people and certainly wasn't a failure. Hence why there is a revival game that's pretty much exactly the same. This game was an absolute blast. Played this heaps in my childhood and so glad to finally see someone revive it. Game Name: Ace Squared
Amazing video! This brings back so many memories of when I played the original and Jagex's Ace of Spades. I've played the original game 4/5 days after the 0.1 update came out during 2011 (I was ten years old then lol), and I haven't stop playing the game since then. Even when the Jagex version had it's flaws, it still loved playing it. I'm currently making a indie game inspired by the original and the Jagex version called "Trench PUNK". If you want to keep up on any updates on the game, all of my social media are the same as my TH-cam username.
I actually loved the classes. I think they achieved their goal of making a Minecraft, TF2ish style fps and classes helped that alot. I think there should have been MORE classes, but that’s a different conversation. There were also a lot of game modes, the zombies mode in this game was my favorite iteration of the infected game mode because of how many options the zombies had with building, and how creative you could be with it. I’ve seen some crazy bases on top of mountains on the moon in ace of spades and it’s so organic. Fun weird things just happened in that game, and I’d argue classes had a large part to do with that.
Does it feel gross to anyone else that Jagex wasn't looking to develop a new game, but 'looking to expand'? Like, does it not strike anyone else as weird that when companies get big they just start buying other people's good ideas instead of making new ones of their own?
@@LensOSRS 'Tis but a scratch! Ywah. I've seen those ads on youtube where macho businessmen talk about that you don't have to make a company when you can just buy one, yada~yada. Those lazy bums
Hey man, I have remade this game. Project's name is Ace Squared. It is wishlistable on steam, even playable right now (discord has instructions) and you can host your own servers too,
When Jagex re-released it initially, it was really fun. The zombie survival mode was a blast with some friends and I have fond memories of playing it. I even bought the Valentine's DLC, the VIP mode was kinda neat. But gradually they nerfed and buffed random things to the point that nothing was really fun anymore? All of their balancing decisions felt really poorly thought out, at least to me. As if 11-year old me would know anything about game balance. I believe the "Battle Builder" update was the final nail in the coffin for even the people who liked the new version - the game was just so far gone from what it was initially. I wonder what this game would look like today if they listened to the community and Aksoy more? How many of these things were his ideas?
I don't usually comment on videos but this was maybe the first multiplayer game I've ever played and it's my childhood, played it from the beginnings and made friends I still talk to today. Great video and have a nice day man :)
Jagex's Ace of Spades did to Ace of Spades what Need for Speed Most Wanted (2012) did to the NFS franchise. Different studio made knock-off with same branding but totally different vibes, and completely ruined the reputation of the brand in the process
Nice Video! I used to play the og Ace of Spades with my friends like crazy back in the day. Hundreds of hours just playing and building. I remember on the release day of the Steam Version, they deleted the Servers Tab of the Website, which used to be pretty much the only way to access servers and therefore made it impossible to play the original Version until the playerbase made a new one weeks later (Buildandshoot). Although the steam Version wasn't bad bad, I still never enjoyed it. It just wasn't what it used to be. OpenSpades is basically Buildandshoot with OpenGL graphics. It even uses the same Servers, so you can crossplay between both Versions. Unfortunately both Versions really don't have that many players anymore. Most Servers are just empty, but that's somewhat to be expected of a 10+ years old game. In case anyone reading this wants to give it a shot, I recommend the 'Arms of Solitaire' Mod for AoS on Roblox. It's rather close to the original feeling, but it has a lot more active players.
amazing video, miss the original version a lot. went on openspades but the biggest server only had 5 people, still fun but can't replicate the chaos of a full server, remember playing it from day to night then day again when I was like 10 lol
My TH-cam channel name has inspiration from that game name back in 2012, man this gives me so much memories might try to play it again on those projects!
The frustrating part about this game is the fact that Jagex only brought Ben on board so they could see if people had interest in a game like Ace Of Spades so they could then release BlockN'Load. The technical issues they were talking about were that they needed more server towers to run BlockN'Load's servers, so they figured they'd kill their guinea pig game. Why? Without the Ace Of Spades name, Jagex could make more money if BlockN'Load given they didn't have to give any money to Ben's team if it did well. New game with only Jagex, so the cash would only be flowing to them. News flash, it didn't do well. Their obnoxious plan to use someone else's game to see if people would play a game like it failed miserably. Jagex is not a very good company. Free players of OSRS used to have access to a larger portion of the world, but then the mobile version dropped, and for the very first time, I came into contact with the paywall fence. Now free to play players can only play in the area with cows, copper, tin, and wood. BlockN'Load was so aggressively monetized that only whales could afford the game.
Youre the only other person I see as mad as I am with jagex here. Like I feel like this is something we should scream about more because the fact that this goated game is just dead for literally no reason other than jagex greed is absurd.
The story of Ace of Spades is a lesson on why chasing trends just because they're popular can be the death of a game. Early days Ace of Spades carved out a niche for itself as a game about trench warfare. It was a relatively slow paced game for a shooter, but the fun of it came from slowly building up or chipping a way at defensive lines, the best map in the game was literally just a giant block with a canyon running through the middle and 2 forts on opposite ends of that canyon. Jagex's version threw away all that in favor of a worse version of TF2 with a destructible environments gimmick that added very little to game.
I dont appreciate how reductively you talk about this game. The original was (is) great but the steam version was also great, just different. Rocket jumping or blowing people up as commando was great, so was flying around with the jetpack and so was digging tunnels or killing players with the miners drill. Flattening entire maps using the new weapons and tools battle builder added was also fun i've yet to replicate anywhere else. Battle builder was not the same as classic AoS but it was an absolute blast.
Yeah you're definitely correct in that they are different games essentially. I suppose this video was more of a fall from grace of the original game itself as opposed to critiquing the second game on it's own. Thanks for the comment!
@@LensOSRS I can understand that but didn't things turn out better than ever for classic AoS? Not only do we have the raw original game available as build n shoot, we have the beautifully optimized Open Spades too... Anyways, I'm just happy anyone remembers this game at all.
omg i fucked loved ace of spades when it first came out. I completely forgot that it was killed after being bought out. I had no idea there were fan projects though so thanks for the info
I was first exposed to ace of spades by playing the original game, before buying the jagex version for $15. By then I had finally afforded a computer that could "run" the game at the time. Wasn't long before the game would begin to die.. A sad tale of a game, but I'm glad I was there to experience it as my first steam purchase, because my only experience outside of gaming before it was Minecraft. It taught me at a young age to curb my expectations towards games, large companies, and educating myself on purchases in general. I still boot up Build and Shoot every now and then and top frag on aloha pk, and it's a blast every time.
I'm one of those unwashed weirdos that actually really liked the class based system. if they had open-sourced it, I'd still be running my own private server to this day. It was by far the most fun my friends and I had in a multiplayer game.
I run the RF Tactical server, which has a few mods to make it just a bit more realistic like a milsim. I wish more people would play stuff like Ace Of Spades/BetterSpades/OpenSpades rather than microtransaction infested crap like Fortnite. AOS can actually run on a netbook with a single core 1.6GHz Intel Atom N450, which is part of why I chose to run an AOS server. I wanted something that literally anyone could play, no powerful hardware or money spent on the game itself required.
The issues you raise are honestly stupid. If people liked the original more, they could have kept playing build and shoot/OG AoS. If they preferred the Jagex version, they could have continued playing that. Just because it costs money for the Jagex version doesn't mean anyone is forced to buy their product. Focus on the actual Jagex release itself and not on comparisons the whole time, since both were available for users to play.
I disagree. The official game itself transitioned from the f2p game to a paid version released by Jagex. While the build and shoot servers existed, this was a community ran project just to keep the old version alive. This video was to look at how it transformed after Jagex purchased the IP and eventually ran it into the ground.
By the way, russians stole it xD It has a clone that's still alive today on Steam, I believe, and a few years into that clone's existence they released the Clone 2, which was an even worse P2W garbage. The thing is, that game had unlockable weapons, armour, utilities etc. and you could only get 1 coin per day, while most stuff was 30-75 coins, right? Or you could buy coins with real money. They added armour just so one shot weapons would become weaker...And when owners of said one shot weapons didn't appreciate it, devs added armour that guarantees blocking 2 shots lol Clone 2 pretty much left you without any stable way to get coins for free, added more stuff and you had to also buy attachments and some stuff was only obtainable from cases, making it all even less bearable than the first game Not saying the name of the game simply because screw those guys
bold of you to assume i can run openspades on my laptop
My fault, I over estimated
There's also different client which has the same graphics as original. I believe build and shoot launcher is that client.
It has limited screen resolution so people say they use betterspades client also to fix this (never tried it)
This game was actually fun to play with my friend back in the day. Still have it in my steam library 23 hours played.
Hah, Yeah I got it in my stream library as well from way back
It was not. Everyone just played sniper.
37 hours, I miss it.
Just so people know, this game is beloved by many people and certainly wasn't a failure. Hence why there is a revival game that's pretty much exactly the same. This game was an absolute blast. Played this heaps in my childhood and so glad to finally see someone revive it. Game Name: Ace Squared
whats the name of the revival
@xxvequalizer9826 Ace Squared
Amazing video! This brings back so many memories of when I played the original and Jagex's Ace of Spades. I've played the original game 4/5 days after the 0.1 update came out during 2011 (I was ten years old then lol), and I haven't stop playing the game since then. Even when the Jagex version had it's flaws, it still loved playing it. I'm currently making a indie game inspired by the original and the Jagex version called "Trench PUNK". If you want to keep up on any updates on the game, all of my social media are the same as my TH-cam username.
I actually loved the classes. I think they achieved their goal of making a Minecraft, TF2ish style fps and classes helped that alot. I think there should have been MORE classes, but that’s a different conversation. There were also a lot of game modes, the zombies mode in this game was my favorite iteration of the infected game mode because of how many options the zombies had with building, and how creative you could be with it. I’ve seen some crazy bases on top of mountains on the moon in ace of spades and it’s so organic. Fun weird things just happened in that game, and I’d argue classes had a large part to do with that.
There is remake in the works and you can already host your own servers, google 'Ace Squared'
*Fortnite:* I made a FPS and Building game into one cohesive experience!
*Ace Of Spades:* AMATEUR!
Does it feel gross to anyone else that Jagex wasn't looking to develop a new game, but 'looking to expand'? Like, does it not strike anyone else as weird that when companies get big they just start buying other people's good ideas instead of making new ones of their own?
Unfortunately that's the way she goes though, Easier for them to buy out a small game than to attempt to create one from scratch
@@LensOSRS 'Tis but a scratch!
Ywah. I've seen those ads on youtube where macho businessmen talk about that you don't have to make a company when you can just buy one, yada~yada. Those lazy bums
I remember playing this in Beta before it was released by Jagex, Good times back then! Thanks for the nostalgia
Appreciate it!
I remember watching Carflow playing Ace of Spades as a kid.
I've always wanted to play this game
Carflow and Chris and the Mike where the ogs I miss them
Hey man, I have remade this game. Project's name is Ace Squared. It is wishlistable on steam, even playable right now (discord has instructions) and you can host your own servers too,
I have bunch of videos about it too and the discord has nearly 600 members.
When Jagex re-released it initially, it was really fun. The zombie survival mode was a blast with some friends and I have fond memories of playing it. I even bought the Valentine's DLC, the VIP mode was kinda neat.
But gradually they nerfed and buffed random things to the point that nothing was really fun anymore? All of their balancing decisions felt really poorly thought out, at least to me. As if 11-year old me would know anything about game balance. I believe the "Battle Builder" update was the final nail in the coffin for even the people who liked the new version - the game was just so far gone from what it was initially. I wonder what this game would look like today if they listened to the community and Aksoy more? How many of these things were his ideas?
I don't usually comment on videos but this was maybe the first multiplayer game I've ever played and it's my childhood, played it from the beginnings and made friends I still talk to today. Great video and have a nice day man :)
Thanks alot for the comment I appreciate it ! : D
Jagex's Ace of Spades did to Ace of Spades what Need for Speed Most Wanted (2012) did to the NFS franchise. Different studio made knock-off with same branding but totally different vibes, and completely ruined the reputation of the brand in the process
Nice Video!
I used to play the og Ace of Spades with my friends like crazy back in the day. Hundreds of hours just playing and building.
I remember on the release day of the Steam Version, they deleted the Servers Tab of the Website, which used to be pretty much the only way to access servers and therefore made it impossible to play the original Version until the playerbase made a new one weeks later (Buildandshoot). Although the steam Version wasn't bad bad, I still never enjoyed it. It just wasn't what it used to be.
OpenSpades is basically Buildandshoot with OpenGL graphics. It even uses the same Servers, so you can crossplay between both Versions. Unfortunately both Versions really don't have that many players anymore. Most Servers are just empty, but that's somewhat to be expected of a 10+ years old game.
In case anyone reading this wants to give it a shot, I recommend the 'Arms of Solitaire' Mod for AoS on Roblox. It's rather close to the original feeling, but it has a lot more active players.
Appreciate the write up and comment ! I might have to check out the mod
amazing video, miss the original version a lot. went on openspades but the biggest server only had 5 people, still fun but can't replicate the chaos of a full server, remember playing it from day to night then day again when I was like 10 lol
My TH-cam channel name has inspiration from that game name back in 2012, man this gives me so much memories might try to play it again on those projects!
The frustrating part about this game is the fact that Jagex only brought Ben on board so they could see if people had interest in a game like Ace Of Spades so they could then release BlockN'Load. The technical issues they were talking about were that they needed more server towers to run BlockN'Load's servers, so they figured they'd kill their guinea pig game. Why? Without the Ace Of Spades name, Jagex could make more money if BlockN'Load given they didn't have to give any money to Ben's team if it did well. New game with only Jagex, so the cash would only be flowing to them. News flash, it didn't do well. Their obnoxious plan to use someone else's game to see if people would play a game like it failed miserably. Jagex is not a very good company. Free players of OSRS used to have access to a larger portion of the world, but then the mobile version dropped, and for the very first time, I came into contact with the paywall fence. Now free to play players can only play in the area with cows, copper, tin, and wood. BlockN'Load was so aggressively monetized that only whales could afford the game.
Youre the only other person I see as mad as I am with jagex here. Like I feel like this is something we should scream about more because the fact that this goated game is just dead for literally no reason other than jagex greed is absurd.
Hundreds of hours in the game. I was there for the ups and downs. It was my childhood and I admit I spent way too much time on it. Very sad, rip.
My child hood game...
I miss this game so much. I remember the infected mode and jet packing around breaking blocks it was so fun
There is remake in the works and you can already host your own servers, google 'Ace Squared'
I used to play this game all the time, i still have it installed on my steam account
The Zombie mode was so fun with friends back in the day
I played in 2011 and 2012. I have some of the fondest memories playing this on my laptop at my grandmas house
there's also arms of solitaire on Roblox which is fairly large
I remember seeing a TH-camr play this when I was a kid, man I wanted to play it so badly
The story of Ace of Spades is a lesson on why chasing trends just because they're popular can be the death of a game. Early days Ace of Spades carved out a niche for itself as a game about trench warfare. It was a relatively slow paced game for a shooter, but the fun of it came from slowly building up or chipping a way at defensive lines, the best map in the game was literally just a giant block with a canyon running through the middle and 2 forts on opposite ends of that canyon. Jagex's version threw away all that in favor of a worse version of TF2 with a destructible environments gimmick that added very little to game.
i havent forgotten this game i wish i could have played it
tbh the class system changed the game entirely, but it was a good change that brought more fun and creativity to the game
build and shoot and openspades both connect to the same servers
That was a cool random video. Love it
Appreciate it! I was scared no one would like this type of content, as long as one person (you) enjoyed it then I’m satisfied
I dont appreciate how reductively you talk about this game. The original was (is) great but the steam version was also great, just different. Rocket jumping or blowing people up as commando was great, so was flying around with the jetpack and so was digging tunnels or killing players with the miners drill. Flattening entire maps using the new weapons and tools battle builder added was also fun i've yet to replicate anywhere else. Battle builder was not the same as classic AoS but it was an absolute blast.
Yeah you're definitely correct in that they are different games essentially. I suppose this video was more of a fall from grace of the original game itself as opposed to critiquing the second game on it's own. Thanks for the comment!
@@LensOSRS I can understand that but didn't things turn out better than ever for classic AoS? Not only do we have the raw original game available as build n shoot, we have the beautifully optimized Open Spades too...
Anyways, I'm just happy anyone remembers this game at all.
There are voxels inside my skin
Are you also poor in Ace of Spades or is it just in OSRS? Jokes aside, great video brother! Very informative... never knew they even did this lol
Thank you brother Extsi 🙏Your half nice comment is appreciated
So how to play this game now?
6:32 Nice. thanks.
omg i fucked loved ace of spades when it first came out. I completely forgot that it was killed after being bought out. I had no idea there were fan projects though so thanks for the info
there is also betterspades which is more true to the classic but the graphics are very slightly enhanced
I really want to know what Ben Aksoy is up to now
Same. I tried looking it up but there's not too much info out there (if at all) about post AoS Aksoy
I was first exposed to ace of spades by playing the original game, before buying the jagex version for $15. By then I had finally afforded a computer that could "run" the game at the time. Wasn't long before the game would begin to die.. A sad tale of a game, but I'm glad I was there to experience it as my first steam purchase, because my only experience outside of gaming before it was Minecraft. It taught me at a young age to curb my expectations towards games, large companies, and educating myself on purchases in general.
I still boot up Build and Shoot every now and then and top frag on aloha pk, and it's a blast every time.
I'm one of those unwashed weirdos that actually really liked the class based system.
if they had open-sourced it, I'd still be running my own private server to this day.
It was by far the most fun my friends and I had in a multiplayer game.
miss this game
Interesting piece!
Thank you! It's a one off different type of video hah
Is there any hope that this steam version will come back to steam again??
No chance hah
It was an awesome game, miss it
God i was so sweaty at this game
I run the RF Tactical server, which has a few mods to make it just a bit more realistic like a milsim.
I wish more people would play stuff like Ace Of Spades/BetterSpades/OpenSpades rather than microtransaction infested crap like Fortnite.
AOS can actually run on a netbook with a single core 1.6GHz Intel Atom N450, which is part of why I chose to run an AOS server. I wanted something that literally anyone could play, no powerful hardware or money spent on the game itself required.
The vanilla version was perfect. I can't believe how they ruined it.
My favorite class was rocketeer
SOPA de lens !
played build and shoot for hours as a kid because it was free
this game was my first steam game lol back in 2013
There is remake in the works and you can already host your own servers, google 'Ace Squared'
@@aksvan well damn thanks for the info
Played it until it was bought. Then never returned because it became just mainstream and expensive
not offline there are server up and running only 10 players average.
Almost 100 hours put into the game... why cant they just roll back to a working version :'(
I like jagex ace of spades more... but couldn't play it before i got my own credit card and pc
one of the best games
I think you are a bit too hard on Jagex's version of Ace of Spades. That is the game that I remember fondly, not the original (I did not play it).
Jagex evil yes :I
Company greed lol, hope you enjoyed the vid !
i really like this game
nothing will top 0.75
The issues you raise are honestly stupid. If people liked the original more, they could have kept playing build and shoot/OG AoS. If they preferred the Jagex version, they could have continued playing that. Just because it costs money for the Jagex version doesn't mean anyone is forced to buy their product. Focus on the actual Jagex release itself and not on comparisons the whole time, since both were available for users to play.
I disagree. The official game itself transitioned from the f2p game to a paid version released by Jagex. While the build and shoot servers existed, this was a community ran project just to keep the old version alive. This video was to look at how it transformed after Jagex purchased the IP and eventually ran it into the ground.
big sad
By the way, russians stole it xD
It has a clone that's still alive today on Steam, I believe, and a few years into that clone's existence they released the Clone 2, which was an even worse P2W garbage.
The thing is, that game had unlockable weapons, armour, utilities etc. and you could only get 1 coin per day, while most stuff was 30-75 coins, right? Or you could buy coins with real money. They added armour just so one shot weapons would become weaker...And when owners of said one shot weapons didn't appreciate it, devs added armour that guarantees blocking 2 shots lol
Clone 2 pretty much left you without any stable way to get coins for free, added more stuff and you had to also buy attachments and some stuff was only obtainable from cases, making it all even less bearable than the first game
Not saying the name of the game simply because screw those guys
The original was the best
Good memories when I first saw gameplay
Fortnight
2nd : )
Congrats!