Snowmobile engine on a motorcycle |Take 2|
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2019
- hey everyone in this video we attach the expansion chamber back on the motorcycle and see how well she performs. I really like this snowmobile motorcycle and It's one of the craziest builds I've done yet! if you want to see more, be sure to check out the channel for other builds such as mini bikes, go karts, gas scooters, motorcycles, and motorized bikes!
Cheers,
-Oliver motorized - บันเทิง
The question is...Can it be licensed?
Thanks for watching!
I think so if you have paperwork for the frame that goes to that vin
We can Wish...But 2 stroke will NEVER see Pavement again..... Unless ya got a Mint H2..Rd..etc....Btw. 2 Strokes ARE KING😎..Gold Spectro
Oliver Motorized hey could you by chance make a pt2 on the vintage bike please
Oliver Motorized I think you can get it licensed. I believe all you have to do is go the D
MV and have it inspected and all and they will give you a VIN number for it so you can get a new title and tags
Great one, lad. You can use snowmobile engines on dirt bikes as options.
I like how this guy actually takes advice and makes a part 2 on the project, rather than trying to act like mistakes weren't made. Cool stuff.
Yeah he's sure turning out to be a good TH-camr isn't he? He's got my vote for cool guy.
I agree!! Its nice to see some take advice and use it. Keep it up man you'll get it going good
Very cool and smart he has all of the knowledge and know how of everybody who watches this would be crazy not to take advantage of it
Old coils will stop sparkling when hot . Then work again when it cools down
ahh that could very well be it
Yes. It needs to be determined if it is the ignition coils or the pickup coil, under the flywheel. If your ignition coils are near anything hot, try to isolate or protect them from heat. If that doesn't work, try hooking an aux. 6 volt supply (lantern battery) to the ignition and see if that helps it run longer. (Make sure you unplug the wire from the pick up coil) I am assuming this is from an old snowmobile, so the coils (ignition) could be equally shorting hence you lose both cylinders. Usually, (from my exp.), when the pickup coil(s) go, you lose everything. No six volts. Try isolating the ignition coils from heat, first. I hope I am right and it helps. It has been decades sine I worked on these engines. Show us when you nailed the problem. :-)
What these guys said. I had an old sled that did the exact same thing. Coils got hot, and no spark. Waited til they cooled off and she fired right back up. Next time it shuts off on you, check for spark.
Deleting the oil injection is safer. You don’t exactly know what ratio the pump is working at.
Read the spark plugs and jet accordingly.
Lastly, if you have the air box, try to use it. Two strokes are tuned for the air box (almost as much) as the expansion chamber. They are not 4 strokes! Been there, done that. :)
That was my first thought as well. I grew up riding old junkyard Yamaha and Suzuki bikes. More than once I did the walk of shame due to old coils.
Yep. Resistance increases with heat. The coil becomes a thermostatic switch.
No one can get mad at you. You’re way in the cool zone with that thing!! Keep it coming.
I can really see a progression of skill in your builds...and that is not easy because you do it on a budget.
Thanks for the comment Marty
you have to loop the oil pump input...if you stop them..or block them off ...it will shut down like it is doing
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@@heavy_haul_n_fool yes sir, I'll be doing it for Dale!
The stock jetting on that carb is meant for a ambient temperature of 5 degrees celcius down to like -20. Aka it's probably putting out a lot more fuel than youd need on a 25 degree day. You COULD put a smaller main jet and raise the c clip on the needle inside the carb slide by one clip position and it would probably pick up a good 5-8hp. Just dont go too lean or you could melt or hole your piston :D
Edit: losing power as it gets warm could be a ignition coil going bad. On some old sleds I've owned they only start to act up when they get hot. Good luck!
Thanks for the advice! I wouldn't doubt the 30 year old ignition coil could be going bad lol!
@@OliverMotorized Unless it's obviously something else I always look for ignition faults first.
P.S. While you've got the plugs out look at the colour of them, that will give you and idea of how accurate your fueling is.
I agree as the coils heat up very small cracks in the epoxy inside expand and short the coil out.
I’ve had the same problem on 2 4wheelers 1 dirt bike and a Toyota pickup. Just what happens when you play with old toys lol
I'd say it looks like it's jetted for higher altitude. That would mean he's lean not rich. His exhaust is awfully clean looking to be running rich. It could be a matter of age but the old artic cat I got a chance to ride in my teens smoked like a freight train but ran like a raped ape. It was jetted for lower altitudes. It just seems to me like the exhaust is too clean.
@@jameshathaway5117 that was my guess as well. It should smoke like a jimmy and scream like a banshee, but there no smoke.
Awesome as always! Thank you Oliver.
That thing looks like an absolute beast!
Cheers buddy thanks
Dude, your fab skills are improving considerably. I would love see what you could do if you actually tried to make something nice.
I really think it would do and your channel a ton of good if your next project is an original %100 custom bike frame made from new steel tubing. A nice looking 50hp or ⬆ engine and new/restored/repurposed, you know, nice looking rims. With custom fenders, seat and so on...
I absolutely believe that you can put together something amazing if you try. It'd totally be worth the attempt.
You could even still do small side projects while making it if you feel like you wanna pump out a different video. However, a good long form project would really help out your channels analytics and give people a reason to wanna watch your next vid to see whats been done.
Just a thought man... Take it or leave it. You're clearly already doin well. But I for one would love to see what you cook up!
CHEERS BUD!🍻
Nice build I need something like that now
Well if you got twin pipes for it with the right jetting it would fly!
I think it def needs to be re-jetted cuz of the summer temps
Also swap to dual carbs, more precise fuel and oil delivery to each cylinder will not only increase power, but also engine life.
He’s not a 2stroke guy
@@gallupcustomknives2293 thats for sure and a good port job would be good too
Porting can wait until the next rebuild.
This thing is amazing!
You really do some cool things and it’s fun to watch. I’m surprised you haven’t had any grief from the cops, riding on the highway. Keep it up.
dude y
our edits are getting so much better i love it!! keep it up man
Genius.almost got it pal. Dont give up. You will get it.
I have a 1972 suzuki tc125 trail bike (2 stroke) it was having oil pump problems, I was going to simply premix the fuel and oil, but was advised against because the oil is injected into the intake port and also a certain crank bearing. The crank bearing wouldn't be lubricated with just premix fuel. Dunno if it's the same with yours but just something to watch out for.
I would check into the claim of the crank bearing thing. Premix should have no problem keeping the bearings lubed.
interesting, I've been looking around a little and a lot of folks say that the only issue is with water cooled engines, because the premix lubes the bushing in the water pump. But this engine is fan cooled.
@Ian Stevenson true, like I said I don't know if premix is an issue for that particular snow mobile engine but just a suggestion :)
@@el34superlead that's what I thought, but the dude who said was real old and has been working with bikes all his life. I would assume it would vary from engine to engine tho :)
@Ian Stevenson they were designed that way, because it was "KEWL". the real world? they stop working and destroy the engine.
I met a guy 25 years ago. .he put a skidoo motor in an old triumph motorcycle. .he built it for hill climes and he actually won the world championship two years in a row! It's a awesome concept with lost of benefits" great job kid! The idea is full of potential! Be careful have fun!👉✊💪✌
Espetacular!
Now that is a proper scooter.
Great work man!
Sick bro
great job. saw some of your other small engine builds and you're a great mechanic and you have built some awesome machines !
You probably hear this allot;Man,you've got a Huge tube !
Could be the ignition coil due to heat. could be fuel delivery problem also. I was so happy to see you put expansion chamber on, this is such a cool project!
Thanks for the suggestions!
that was a interesting way to start a motorcycle :D splendid job!
That muffler doubles as a side car 🤣🤣🤣🤣 not meant in a disrespectful way. Props on always trying to do a burnout every build! Awesome
looking forward to your next project.keep it up.I still wish you lived on my street.
Oil sensor on a 2-stroke?
How absolutely satisfying....to take note of the powerful advantage of
the build as effortless clutch. That is to say, smash on the throttle and
engage the power curve of the engine-clutch design.
I pause to ride my Honda 1100 around the block. I can hardly imagine
what would refresh...a builder spirit....more. was that 50+" 60..mph?..
Mastery of iron....intended build.. concept..met and formed.
I like it buddy really cool we use to build stuff like this when. I was young
Lol... that’s nuts I love it!
Bonito trabajo 😊👌
Gracias por compartir
Should have mounted the expansion chamber over to the right hand side. Would definitely improve the balance of the bike both physically and aesthetically
It's a mad Max bike, noice!
104 KPH!!! dude thats insane you should be proud! WOW thats all I can say!
Crazy cool thats mad max to me ;)
finally. ive been waiting for this video! nice work man!
Your coils may be fixing to fail, related to heat and old age, just my opinion. Keep up the great videos!
Good point! it prob needs quite a few new components to get it tip-top
Great channel and you do all the things we wanted to do.
Cool build , Nice job. Peace Brother
Hey good job,your doing something I've wanted to do for a long time but haven't had time but hey nice job love it.(never give up)
Nice build.
thanks man
That bike would be a flippin rocket and ablast to ride for sure. Its to bad the expansion chamber ad centrifugal cluthes take a ton of room but you could refine that eventually. But what a fun bike!! Enjoy!!
That thing is cool!
Have to be carful removing the oil pump because some of them pump oil directly into the bearings!!!
Not on these old suzukis, they just pump oil up to to the intake ports basically. Now the new 850 patriot that polaris has pumps oil into the bearings so you are correct about this but just not on this particular motor.
I would lower the battery in the frame as much as you can maybe a little heat shield by the exhaust after you do that. And also a little bit of aero work would help a little. Awesome bike man I love it
Dang that thing is the business
Sweet, i like it
Its super cool brother nice job!
this is such a cool channel, i hope it gets more recognition
I'm loving that truck in the background at 1:13. We just don't get stuff like that in the UK, anything that old here is restored and shiny or has rotted away.
that truck sure has done me well lol. cheers
Nice!Snowmobile engines need carb jet change’s in warm/hot weather
big o killer dude man you do things that are so cool if your ever in north Carolina stop in !!!!!!!!!!!
hell ya bruther thanks
thats awesome.. im currently building a spiderbox mini buggy with a 440 sled engine
ah very cool! she's gonna fly
Wow that was a very good toss you throwing that exaust pipe went pretty far
lol I threw javelin 8th grade
@@OliverMotorized wow thats cool. But ur lucky no one came out back door or eles u'd smack some one in the head or face lol that will not be good. But yeah gotta be more careful when throwing a bike part or any othet iteam. Is all am saying gotta be safe than sorry
alright here is what Ik about snowmobiles and things that can help you first unless you changed your jetting its now to rich since the engine is always warm since you are driving it is the summer and no longer in winter so u could be flooding the engine the flip side has already been said about the short fuel line where the bowl is emptying before it can fill and these could be going hand in hand also the reason you need the expansion chamber is it creates presser zones that give the engine more power with the right jetting and clutching in changing anyone of those things you might or have to change the other 2 for the engine to work properly neat build (i would have gone with a liquid cooled tho) getting it licensed might be hard tho since im gonna guess it has no title but best of luck
Start by looking at the spark plugs and make sure your gas tank is venting. Could have vapor locked . So fricken raw tho . I love it . If you got a title it shouldnt matter wwhat motor is has.
this made me smile :)
Ah, the unmistakable sound of a suzuki sled engine, nothing smokes like one of those after the first start of the season on last year's gas, it truly is a spectacle to behold. Those things will usually run for 40 years with no maintenance whatsoever, but it seems like you have bad coils or something.
MAD MAX MACHINE
Cool project !! If you get a chance, modify an old Yamaha RD350 or RD400. You can hog out the Intake ports, shave heads, cut piston sleeves (Wisecos) and do a lot to get a ton of 2 stroke power. They are scary to ride too.
lol excellent
You are very creative.
👍👍👍👆
Shouldn't have disconnected the oil pump. Brt you it's lubing the crank bearings that wouldn't get anything from premix
@@noidontthinksolol not every single one.. the oil injection is there for a reason, and it's definitely for the far side crank bearing
@@noidontthinksolol yeah every 2 stroke engine is lubed by the oil in the gas that's the reason they dont hold oil down by the crank like 4 strokes
@@noidontthinksolol I know. I'm saying the 2 stroke oil injection works fine. Dirt bikes aren't meant to be held wide open for very long. Snowmobiles are. That's why they are 2 stroke oil injected because even 32:1 at wide open is too lean for constant use. Blips like a dirt bike maybe but now WOT
@@noidontthinksolol I think you've missed everything that points to 2 stroke oil injection going g other places than right into the air fuel mixture. This guy even mentioned where he took the two lines off going to both the cyclinders (aka the crank bearings)
@@noidontthinksolol I was talking about oil lean btw. I know what jets are. And I also know that premix jets are different than oil injection jets that are made for straight gas
Cool video :)
You should find some pipes for that thing and jet the carbs and that thing will be brrraap nasty
yeah I think finding a proper jet is next for sure
good and honest fun.
I race watercross on vintage snowmobiles, I run an old pump delete and don't have problems, I also run less oil than some say to, like 50:1. Oil makes heat, but is important for lubrication. Try 40:1. Also, change your main jet, I step my dual carb sled down from 300 stock to 220, my single carb sled had 310, stock and I ran 230 for 80+ degree weather.
Do you re-jet yourself or purchase them?
@@OliverMotorized buy new jets, almost every bike or atv shop has mikuni jets, the smaller jets are cheap, 2-5 dollars each
Cool content keep it coming
A front mudguard is necessary to stop the front forks from twisting when you use the brake.
I have a buddy that modded a Indy 650 triple into a four wheeler, once he got the clutches dialed in his words were " that thing scares the sh*t out of me" it was uncontrollable power wise.
Im doing a 530cc 2 stroke snowmobile engine on my old quad and the expansion chamber exhaust is the pain in the butt part for me to
The carb is jetted for straight gas which has a lower viscosity when it has an oil injection, you need to rejet the carb when switching to premix. Its probably leaning out and causing excess heat which can effect the stator and lose spark. Look up an instructional on jetting. When your jetting is spot-on, power will be boosted dramatically
I don't see how removing the oil pump would shut down the engine. You are probably just over heating the engine, snowmobiles are designed for cold temperatures. You could also have a case of vapor lock.
what's vapor lock?
Actually snowmobiles have better cooling than typical two stroke bikes since they are fan cooled engines doing harder work than bike engines.
It's ALOT heavier to haul an snowmobile than a bike.
BTW i run my two strokes on 25:1 oil mix. They're pretty much smoke free using good low smoke two stroke oil and correct jetting.
@@OliverMotorized That when fuel in carb boils so you get fuel vapour displacing the air from intake. It usually doesn't occur when driving but more commonly gives starting issues.
You should curve the exhaust over to the right side instead since you have all the clutch on the left lol thats one of the reasons brand made bikes have it on the right also :P
So coool.
It's a forced air fan-cooled engine. If your not using the fan you might want to remove some of the wheat metal around the cooling fins. Its there to keep air flowing one direction. Now it needs to cool from all directions.
That thing is ready for Sturgis!!
Force with You!
How do the plugs look... may need a rejet
You should put it in a vespa! 😂
The jetting has to be richer because it was meant to run in the winter. An air scoop for the fan will help tremendously. Good luck, I did the same thing over 30 years ago myself, it worked great, much faster than original engine.
Leaner. Colder air = more air
You have to get your pipe correct! That crazy cool toy ought to scream!
could the air scoops at the plugs be an issue not taking air being reversed
No man that's just 2 stroke cool I was one that said it has to be there
Hot damn !
Could you imagine a gear box behind that! It would have a much higher top speed that's for sure!
could be coils if you put the pump back on make a small loop and small bottle and fill with oil that is what we do love the video
and it would help keep it cool if you wrap the exhaust
Thanks for the advice jeff!
& dude its ur project u can do what ever u want to it no one can tell u what to do with ur projects who cares if others get mad n upset its NOT their project its UR project ur free to do what ever u want to it etc
@Ian Stevenson no some one said to him that they were mad n upset about some part on the bike that made him remove it just to put the sled exhaust back on etc if u re-watch the whole thing some people were upset with him listen to that part on his video
Since this was 4 years ago you must have figured out it was either coils over heating or vapor lock in the fuel system. Engines built for cold weather operation do not do well in the summer. If you still had spark, it was vapor lock. I used a 2 stroke snow blower engine on a push scooter and it would vapor lock after a minute or two. Went loke a bat out of hell for a minute or two before it would lose fuel.
If your motocycle dies afer a while and loses power you should use a bigger jet in the carburetor. I had this problem on my motocycle
Id ride it around 👍
Check your coils. My bike does it when it gets too hot. I change out the cdi and its good to go
Pretty cool . . . like that 2 stroke sound . . . however you gonna go that fast on those tires?? Better get some new ones as those look dry rotted.
Condenser. Also 32:1 from 40:1 means more oil. More oil means less fuel. Less fuel means hotter running engine. Ride safe and keep up the tinkering!
Fuel pumps and/or carb might be plugging up, had near identical symptoms to that on a sled from bad fuel. When it quits pull out the plugs and check for spark, if you have spark then its fuel related.
ah good troubleshooting advice thanks!
You could have put 2 pipes on her. That may even it out. 50:1 is best for older machines I find. Little heaver for warm air though it helps keep it cooler. They don’t like warm weather hard on plugs
Wow that's what I'm talking about sic ass build
cheers man!
you can run oil in your gas without any problems 2-4%... aslong as its a 2-stroke... id say overheating. if the exhaust isn't stock you may need to add some fuel to it !
(check spark plugs just in case) gray/white plugs is a no go!!
You will need to have a look at the specifics of that model engine. I do not believe there are any oil sensors on a arctic cat engine of that vintage besides the oil bottle level, which only turns on a light in the dash.