Hey, just to clarify, this video shows that the M4 CS has 650 lb-ft of torque. That is incorrect. it has 650 NM of torque. The lb-ft measurement is 479 for this car. Apologies! P.S. the world needs to agree on metric or imperial at some point.
I dunno that main throttle house James has become too uppity after his adventures in Tofu. Extra throttle house James is still down to earth. They’d clash it out for sure.
I love the color and the interior, but the M5 CS looks cleaner in my opinion and sounds amazing. I like where BMW’s performance division is headed, even if I can’t afford one!
Still one of the best big GTs ever made at any price. And yes, I'm putting it up there with Astons and Ferraris. It's just an absolute MONSTER. And you can easily turn them up to 800hp and 700+ lb-ft of torque and keep the whole thing perfectly factory feeling.
Both great choices, but apples and oranges. The BMW is technically a DD. Throw kids in the back or drop the back seat for cavernous storage (I throw a 29" mountain bike in there with the front wheel off), and still get similar lap times.
@@saffaseppo7664 the corvette trunk might be able to hold 1 kid 🤣. You are right though the BMW does give you that family/utility component to go with the performance.
@@saffaseppo7664m4 cs rear seats only work for little kids, and the ride is too harsh for anything more than a short trip when youre in the backseat. if you want a good daily might as well go with an m3 that has actual backseats and shares most the capability of the m4, or jump up to the the m5, though they arent as athletic anymore since they weigh a billion pounds.
top tip you should NEVER buy a factory matte paint job. Finish maintenance is a nightmare, and you will be totally screwed if you get in a fender bender because it is IMPOSSIBLE to match. If you must have a matte finish, get the cheap paint and get a vinyl wrap in the color you want or a frost clear vinyl wrap.
@@Tfish64 it's pretty durable, and you can ceramic coat it on top to help protect it. I would say it holds up better than the matte paint. But we are talking about a 7-8k application that will last maybe 5-10 years if taken care of.
And I’ve started to see more and more of them being priced at MSRP which kind of makes it a no brainer, especially considering the buyer with that much purchase power already probably has a very competent daily driver, also the Z06 is a once in a lifetime value IMO like nothing is as special at that price point
Ones a 2 seater supercar killer, the other is a liveable, all rounder coupe. Us as car people will take the z06 no doubt but i dont think the buyer for the m4cs is cross-shopping it with a z06
8:20. Reminds me of when I call IT and they ask me if I have turned it off and on again. Cars shouldn’t do that. Too much tech in new cars. That along with bad infotainment, lack of real buttons and knobs, and crazy prices are ruining the driving experience.
completely agree with you on that one, if something was wrong in the first place, what made it go away after turning it on and off? if it was a "just be careful" kind of code, then why did it behave like that at the first place? it just doesn't make any sense.
I strongly disagree, coming out of the donut drift he caused the car to roll backwards while in drive, the car automatically disengages drive and puts the drivetrain into limp mode to save the gearbox. BMW autos have been doing this for generations, it's not new and makes sense imo. I was learning to drift in an F32 and it did this as well.
That's how they did it with e46, if I remember correctly. It was the regular one 1st, then the hardcore almost-slick tires CSL came out, and in the end they made a CS version as a "best of but not as hardcore and thus usable" one.
@@G82Watts You do realize they are selling not "BECAUSE OF", but rather "DESPITE" the cheap screen right? Sometimes you gotta use your brain instead of your bias to make a coherent argument.
@@jkliao6486 yea it's 100% cost cutting but atleast their are still buttons on the dash and moveable ac unlike other cars. All I was saying is that this layout has now been copied by alot. I like it ALOT MORE then looking down at a tablet. Plus BMW has a perfectly placed drivers scroll wheel. I never have to reach forward and press the screen. The scroll wheel is super responsive and easier to use while driving.
6:56 u guys are talking about the steering but if u zoom in the steering is set to "comfort" and not "sport" on the screen. Clear as day. Do yall not know u can click and change it. Theirs a sport option.
Speaking as an M340i owner (not the same I know but steering technology is similar), Comfort is often the preferred choice as using sport makes it unnaturally heavy. None of the options change the numb feeling however.
Because they have reviewed the m4 competition and csl and maybe the X Drive Competition as well I think, so it would be a waste of time to put all that time into a basically an M4 CSL that has rear seats.
@peterhammer6915 if you have a family with 2 kids,130K to burn, and don't have a couple dailies already, then you have your priorities all mixed up. Lol.
@@FLBoyCanScrap wtf? We have only space for one car. If you want a fast track capable car, this fits perfectly. The M3 Cs though would be better. Our daily has been a Taycan 4S for 4 years already. People have different priorities, mate
BMW really is ahead of its time. Its crazy how i go from hating everything to seeing one in person and absolutely falling in love. The new LCI headlights look so MEAN. Straight viper fangs. Even better in yellow or red. 🔥
Yes, but then they TANK their progress with starting price. The price to entry makes it too rich for those that would want one, and not special enough for those that can afford one. No way you are getting this over say a new C8 Z06 or even a new ZR1 that wont be too far off this price. This is a flashy man in a cheap suit wearing a $100k watch.
@@LMBC6Brianbuddy the m3 cs sold out instantly. M4 csl sold out. This will be if not already sold out. Trust me bmw doesn't care about chevy lmao. 2 different audiences. I see a million old men driving c8s around. This looks far more special and appealing. Not everything is about being points of a second faster.
I like the shape of the headlight housing but the design of the lights themselves aint it. I like the "U" or "C" shaped bulbs of the pre-LCI better than the new design. feels like they changed it just for the sake of changing it. and the angel halos of the F-Chassis BMW will always be the classic.
Like the other guy said, this is a pointless race. AWD will win every time because…if AWD lol. Roll races are a thing because it showcases which car really is the faster car.
@ExtraThrottleHouse. Now that you've driven the M5 CS and this new M4 CS, which of the two cars has the better steering feel and steering feedback? Are they about the same or is one better than the other?
@@bananajuice3143Correct, that was my take on it from watching the review on the M5 CS. Would just be interesting to see what they would say now that they've tested both.
The immense amount of depreciation from new to 1-2 years old tells me these are GROSSLY and I mean grossly overpriced from new MSRP. There is no way this car is worth $130k USD. If you said $85k or something close to that, i'd go hmmmmm sure ok. Sharp and fast BMW. But $130k? Yeah no way not ever.
How would you know the CS will depreciate heavily? The standard M4s, yes they do. It's a limited run model. It will keep its value well, once people realise just how good this iteration of an M4 is.
My fully loaded M3 (F80) Comp MT with Carbon Brakes was $75k.... Even that was HIGH considering the time 2018. These new M4's in the US have a MSRP of $130k or more. Ridiculous.. You could get a used 991.1 or 991.2 Turbo for the same price as this BMW..
@@mitchellcaldwell6315 might wanna watch (Sam carlegion gtr vs m4 xdrive) or throttle house rs5 vs m4 vs gtr. M4 xdrive beats it from a dig and a roll stock for stock while having way better tech and luxury interior
Shoot, for $10,000 less starting you can get a new Z06. It has a more livable ride, better performance, and feels more special. Thats it, conversation over.
@@thenumber102k I just got my 2025 m4cs with $3k rebate. I had to call over 12 dealerships but I got lucky.
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All C8s including the Z06 is very heinous inside and out and will not age well. Also has the classically crap GM build quality, unlike most German-built sporty vehicles
Thank God that BMW Group has shifted around all of their Designers between all of the companies they own, I have HOPE for Future BMWs bringing back some classic/unmistakable BMW design language! The M3/M4 has grown on me, but damn I miss the E46 M3.
Okay but here's my two cents: Can manufacturers stop making their cars heavier, then release a "lightweight" version of it for more money, then make the next generation even heavier, rinse and repeat?
First off, what planet can you even get a GT4 RS on? Second, which other planet can you get a GT4 RS for the base price which you are quoting of the GT4 RS, which realistically runs $225K US, with no dealer markup.
@@BinisaElebothey explained that in first minute and a half of the video, basically csl in some things but less extreme in other things, but more extreme than normal M4
@@jkliao6486 maybe worse is the wrong word to use here... They are great looking lights that used to set the top tier models apart. If you're spending 3 times as much on a special car, ideally you'd want some bits to stand out and be special. Placing them on the lower tier models "devalues" the top tier models.
@@seb42 If you buy a top trim performance track model for a different real light design, you are the problem and you can only blame yourself when the lights are not exclusive to your 175k car. You know scalpers are mad about LEGO putting a single exclusive minifig from a $599 big set into a $10 small set. It's the same energy, utter stupidity to put it that way.
@@jkliao6486 90% of buyers of this kind of car/price are doing so for the prestige. Limiting that tail light to the high end model, as silly as it may seem, is part of that prestige. It's something that makes it more special. Rational? No. But neither is spending this kind of money on a car.
That front end is really growing on me. I wasn’t really a fan when it first came out but I really like it now. It’s undeniable and very aggressive, which I like. When Audi first did the big grill in the s4 I wasn’t a fan either, now it just works.
I own one (in the UK) and it's a brilliant car. It's a very different, and much improved over competition M4. I find the suspension more comfortable compared to my previous M4 LCI, more compliant, more planted. It's playful but controlled. This is BMW's answer to Porsche 992 GTS with daily practicality. I love it.
@fzr1000981 looks are subjective, I like it. The driving dynamics are on another level to any other BMW M car. And I had an M2. Great little cars but rwd only.
Aside from the looks, we have horrible steering, drivetrain fault/limp mode, insane pricing, no manual transmission. I mean, if a Model 3 has better steering than a BMW, we've lost the plot.
coming out of the drift he caused the car to roll backwards while in drive, the car automatically disengages drive and puts the drivetrain into limp mode to save the gearbox. BMW autos have been doing this for generations, it's not new and makes sense imo. I was learning to drift in an F32 and it did this as well.
@@VDOGG656 he is speaking as if nobody likes them. If that was the case they would not be so much on the road. People don't spend their hard earned money on things they don't like.
The problem is there aren't any roads where you can make use of the "fun factor"; you'll have to take it to a track, and 99% of buyers will never do that, so what we end up with are a lot buyers who are basically just posers ...
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All BMW’s sound like shit , same goes for Porsche and all these guys who review them always say how amazing they sound . 911 sounds like my old Briggs and Stratton mower . And you’re right , BMW sounds like a civic .
Agreed. Modern cars sound terrible with very few exceptions. People fawn over the BMWs engines, or Porsche - but yes, they both sound unmusical. Give me a Maserati 4.7, a Busso V6, or a 240Z Inline 6 any day over those. Musical notes.
@@maciejswiercz9737 that's a trademark of bmw and porsche - absolute garbage of a sound. I agree that it's so stupid to see reviewers calling garbage noices (some of them from a speakers) as a "good engine sound", while my vaccuum cleaner has more sound range and emotions at least past 2010ish
@@maciejswiercz9737 BMW w b58 (single turbo) and aftermarket downpipe sounds fine. its an inline 6. the twin turbo is what makes it sound shitty. turbos are mufflers
Wow!! 5:53 can we take a moment to appreciate these seats in a freakn m4 ? They look like something in a 600k supercar. This car sounds amazing and its not the UK one pumping sound in. My new dream car along side a 911
@@ihyln1 boy how u are wrong on that. My dad had a porsche targa gts with buckets and he said he'll never get them again and got a turbo s without them. He works at porsche and the number of people that get them and complain later and opt for the comfy seats he says is insane. He's driven my g82 with carbon buckets and says they are WAY more comfortable and actually usable for daily driving. Bare in mind he's 6"5 and 230 lbs. I love mine.
Good thing for BMW is that the people speak with their money. The g8x platform m3 and m4 have outsold the older f8x m3 and m4 by nearly double per year. Look it up. It came with their highest price tag yet and is still hard to keep in stock.
its not tho the g80 m3 is beauty and the buck teeth are legendary atp. but the g82 m4 is ugly and looks like a mustang. the g80 and g87 m2 are ones to get
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 g82 with csl tail lights look way better then the generic m3 ones. I like both but the m4 looks faster cuz it's a coupe. Also I think the adro grille only looks good on the m4
@@G82Watts adro front end only looks good on the m4 for sure its gross on the m3. as far as taillights the csl tails are cool but not a big deal to me. i prefer the wide hips of the m3 any day. and the m340i looks miles better than the m440. the g22 is gross
Lmao not trying to say it matters. But if been through drive thrus and whether it's a girl or guy they are always gushing about the car. Wondering what it is and how I can afford it , etc.. so ion know about that one ❤
Hey, just to clarify, this video shows that the M4 CS has 650 lb-ft of torque. That is incorrect. it has 650 NM of torque. The lb-ft measurement is 479 for this car. Apologies! P.S. the world needs to agree on metric or imperial at some point.
metric xd
Agreed!
Also gotta specify that it's BMW numbers 😂 100% better then that
It never will, too much durable infrastructure has been built in both standards.
The world has already agreed, TLDR: We choose metric
The extra throttle house guys and the folks at throttle house should join to make a video together. I really think they would get along
I want to see which thomas does better in lap times
I dunno that main throttle house James has become too uppity after his adventures in Tofu. Extra throttle house James is still down to earth. They’d clash it out for sure.
Big drama between them, did you not hear? Normal Thomas actually punched Extra Thomas.
But what production value would we get?
I don't like the hosts of Throttle House Extra. The Throttle House guys are the best though!
This should have been $44 less. $123,456. Missed opportunity.
😂
Dont worry, the bone stock m4 will be that next year
Talk about a rounding error
Game changer
😂😂
"WILD TURKEY!!"🗣🗣📢📢⚠️⚠️⚠️
This is way more fun--
Thomas ordering a drink after being a passenger during James's drifts
James' eyes after looking over his shoulder
Car prices genuinely make no sense anymore
We should all get together and just not buy new vehicles anymore. I figure three months oughta be enough to get everyone’s attention.
Problem is you can NOT get the people with actual fuc you money to buy these cars to agree with the laypeople who don't have the money.
The auto finance business is booming, so is the repo business
@@Theoreticallytextingif any people who can afford these buy them (which there are), your plan is gonna fail lol
Old M4CS cost 110-125… this is a bargain
I love the color and the interior, but the M5 CS looks cleaner in my opinion and sounds amazing. I like where BMW’s performance division is headed, even if I can’t afford one!
It proves how incredibly good that m8 comp is.
Still one of the best big GTs ever made at any price. And yes, I'm putting it up there with Astons and Ferraris. It's just an absolute MONSTER. And you can easily turn them up to 800hp and 700+ lb-ft of torque and keep the whole thing perfectly factory feeling.
@@spdcrzy And they're a good-looking modern BMW, which makes it extra special
@@spdcrzy facts. M8 is super underrated.
Agree, depreciation on the M8 is very bad though. Good value used but better get an extended warranty with that engine.
In that price rang so many amazing cars. Would probably go Z06 or GT4 for the fun and intoxicating engines.
Both great choices, but apples and oranges. The BMW is technically a DD. Throw kids in the back or drop the back seat for cavernous storage (I throw a 29" mountain bike in there with the front wheel off), and still get similar lap times.
@@saffaseppo7664 the corvette trunk might be able to hold 1 kid 🤣. You are right though the BMW does give you that family/utility component to go with the performance.
No rear seats to pipe my girl down though
@@saffaseppo7664m4 cs rear seats only work for little kids, and the ride is too harsh for anything more than a short trip when youre in the backseat. if you want a good daily might as well go with an m3 that has actual backseats and shares most the capability of the m4, or jump up to the the m5, though they arent as athletic anymore since they weigh a billion pounds.
@@BestOfTate23 🤣
i LOVED the "new" short format,
one take, discussing while doing sporty laps
AWESOME, really really cool
Love checking my feed on Tuesday mornings! You guys are the best!
top tip you should NEVER buy a factory matte paint job. Finish maintenance is a nightmare, and you will be totally screwed if you get in a fender bender because it is IMPOSSIBLE to match. If you must have a matte finish, get the cheap paint and get a vinyl wrap in the color you want or a frost clear vinyl wrap.
Does the frost wrap hold up to scratches well?
And it is ugly
@@jtc1964x that's subjective
Matte PPF
@@Tfish64 it's pretty durable, and you can ceramic coat it on top to help protect it. I would say it holds up better than the matte paint. But we are talking about a 7-8k application that will last maybe 5-10 years if taken care of.
FYI - The Z06 is the same price as this car.
Oh naw. Im taking the Z every single time.
And I’ve started to see more and more of them being priced at MSRP which kind of makes it a no brainer, especially considering the buyer with that much purchase power already probably has a very competent daily driver, also the Z06 is a once in a lifetime value IMO like nothing is as special at that price point
No back seat and minimal storage, I'm CS
Ones a 2 seater supercar killer, the other is a liveable, all rounder coupe. Us as car people will take the z06 no doubt but i dont think the buyer for the m4cs is cross-shopping it with a z06
For 10x the car.
I feel obligated to mention For Thomas's benefit: Patrick Bateman literally--literally-- murders someone with a chainsaw in "American Psycho".
you missed the point...he did it while still being classy
An axe...
Those seats are FIRE, the car is FIRE!!
Usually I don’t care for the M3/M4 this gen but this one is perfect. With that added decal on the hood even the front looks great now.
I feel like putting a Pontiac Firebird on the hood. Feeling heretical 🥴
The "WILD TURKEY" mixed with the look on James's face got me rolling on the floor!
8:20. Reminds me of when I call IT and they ask me if I have turned it off and on again. Cars shouldn’t do that. Too much tech in new cars. That along with bad infotainment, lack of real buttons and knobs, and crazy prices are ruining the driving experience.
completely agree with you on that one, if something was wrong in the first place, what made it go away after turning it on and off? if it was a "just be careful" kind of code, then why did it behave like that at the first place? it just doesn't make any sense.
@@ahmetcantasci for decades engineers have inherited code and have asked the same questions! LOL.. just the software world sometimes hahaha
I strongly disagree, coming out of the donut drift he caused the car to roll backwards while in drive, the car automatically disengages drive and puts the drivetrain into limp mode to save the gearbox. BMW autos have been doing this for generations, it's not new and makes sense imo. I was learning to drift in an F32 and it did this as well.
That's how they did it with e46, if I remember correctly. It was the regular one 1st, then the hardcore almost-slick tires CSL came out, and in the end they made a CS version as a "best of but not as hardcore and thus usable" one.
Don’t like the dashboard AT ALL. The trend away from beautiful analog gauges is such a shame.
People say that but after bmw did this screen style across the front MANY companies have followed suit and now have the same screen setup.
@@G82Watts Because it’s far cheaper to produce- it’s not customer demand.
@@G82Watts You do realize they are selling not "BECAUSE OF", but rather "DESPITE" the cheap screen right? Sometimes you gotta use your brain instead of your bias to make a coherent argument.
Screens are cheaper. Obvious cost cutting
@@jkliao6486 yea it's 100% cost cutting but atleast their are still buttons on the dash and moveable ac unlike other cars. All I was saying is that this layout has now been copied by alot. I like it ALOT MORE then looking down at a tablet. Plus BMW has a perfectly placed drivers scroll wheel. I never have to reach forward and press the screen. The scroll wheel is super responsive and easier to use while driving.
The wild turkey and James face is an epic ending 😂😂😂😂😂😂
These extra throttle house dudes are way cooler than those duece bags on the regular throttle house
Love the Extra content and good morning from Ontario.
"The chassis guys & the engine guys need to walk over to the design guys and tell them... Make our cars look better!"... Enough said. :)
Thanks!
It's "tHe sWEeT SpOT"
What are you doing here? 😭
Whats ur favorite current bmw miles?
The king 👑
6:56 u guys are talking about the steering but if u zoom in the steering is set to "comfort" and not "sport" on the screen. Clear as day. Do yall not know u can click and change it. Theirs a sport option.
Speaking as an M340i owner (not the same I know but steering technology is similar), Comfort is often the preferred choice as using sport makes it unnaturally heavy. None of the options change the numb feeling however.
As an M2 owner, comfort steering is best steering.
@@michaelluttmer2486 idk I agree it's not a huge difference but sport is definitely more responsive espically if ur track driving
Comfort steering feels the best my guy
9:09 that full braking into the grass though 😅
Crazy when a new M4 CS gets only an extra TH 😂
Because they have reviewed the m4 competition and csl and maybe the X Drive Competition as well I think, so it would be a waste of time to put all that time into a basically an M4 CSL that has rear seats.
bro i love you guys! Thomas you are the man for bringing this channel up bro you and James make the best duo! I watch every video loll
It starts at £120k over here. That's a whole lot of Kelly for a M4..😮😮
It’s because of all the changes made to make it right hand drive, that costs the extra money. LHD markets are luckier than us😂
Dont know what Thomas is talking about this car looks Amazing !!
It's really hard to choose this over a C8 Z06 for the same money.
its really not that hard if you have a family with 2 kids.
@peterhammer6915 if you have a family with 2 kids,130K to burn, and don't have a couple dailies already, then you have your priorities all mixed up. Lol.
@@FLBoyCanScrap wtf? We have only space for one car. If you want a fast track capable car, this fits perfectly. The M3 Cs though would be better. Our daily has been a Taycan 4S for 4 years already.
People have different priorities, mate
@@peterhammer6915 only 1 space for 1 car, have 130K to burn, and can someonehow make it to a track where you might break your 1 car? Lol.
@@FLBoyCanScrap you must live in the middle of nowhere dude
What a great review. Real great exchange from both of you.
Maybe the CS help a little!!
BMW really is ahead of its time. Its crazy how i go from hating everything to seeing one in person and absolutely falling in love. The new LCI headlights look so MEAN. Straight viper fangs. Even better in yellow or red. 🔥
Yes, but then they TANK their progress with starting price. The price to entry makes it too rich for those that would want one, and not special enough for those that can afford one. No way you are getting this over say a new C8 Z06 or even a new ZR1 that wont be too far off this price. This is a flashy man in a cheap suit wearing a $100k watch.
@@LMBC6Brianbuddy the m3 cs sold out instantly. M4 csl sold out. This will be if not already sold out. Trust me bmw doesn't care about chevy lmao. 2 different audiences. I see a million old men driving c8s around. This looks far more special and appealing. Not everything is about being points of a second faster.
I like the shape of the headlight housing but the design of the lights themselves aint it. I like the "U" or "C" shaped bulbs of the pre-LCI better than the new design. feels like they changed it just for the sake of changing it. and the angel halos of the F-Chassis BMW will always be the classic.
This may be one of the best looking BMWs Ive seen. I know.......everything is subjective, but WOW!!
We need a Drag race with M4 xdrive M4 Cs M4 CSL 🙏🏽🔥
pointless. roll race is what you want.
Like the other guy said, this is a pointless race. AWD will win every time because…if AWD lol. Roll races are a thing because it showcases which car really is the faster car.
@@JacesOwnWorld It's still pointless, a lap test is a far better indication of how capable a car is, we aren't buying dragsters.
Thomas: your watch is up to the task. Love it ❤
"I'm not being a hater, I have eyes, that's all!" The proper response! That M5 looked so great!
I had an M3 CS, and IMHO it makes more sense than the 2 doors car. It was quick
@ExtraThrottleHouse. Now that you've driven the M5 CS and this new M4 CS, which of the two cars has the better steering feel and steering feedback? Are they about the same or is one better than the other?
I think they explicitly mentioned the steering as a positive during the M5 CS review
@@bananajuice3143Correct, that was my take on it from watching the review on the M5 CS. Would just be interesting to see what they would say now that they've tested both.
This is the perfect spec for BMW M4 CS Green with gold rims ❤❤❤.
Awesome video 😊😊
The new BMW Mustang looks pretty good
the m3 looks like a proper bmw, beautiful hips on the rear quarter. the m4 is a mustang/q60 look alike. wack!
Throttle House on my birthday is a delight
7:38 The car was like “This is a serious racing car English Sir! Don’t drive with your clown shoes on!” But in a German accent 💀💀
10:29 it's highlighted! ❤❤❤
The immense amount of depreciation from new to 1-2 years old tells me these are GROSSLY and I mean grossly overpriced from new MSRP. There is no way this car is worth $130k USD. If you said $85k or something close to that, i'd go hmmmmm sure ok. Sharp and fast BMW. But $130k? Yeah no way not ever.
Buddy the m5 cs cost the same as it did 4 years ago. the m4 csl cost the same as it did 2 years ago. The misinformation is insane.
How would you know the CS will depreciate heavily? The standard M4s, yes they do. It's a limited run model. It will keep its value well, once people realise just how good this iteration of an M4 is.
@@G82Wattsbuddy pull it out your mouth BMWs will depreciate and my GTR is gapping you every day of the week 🫵🤡🤣
My fully loaded M3 (F80) Comp MT with Carbon Brakes was $75k.... Even that was HIGH considering the time 2018. These new M4's in the US have a MSRP of $130k or more. Ridiculous.. You could get a used 991.1 or 991.2 Turbo for the same price as this BMW..
@@mitchellcaldwell6315 might wanna watch (Sam carlegion gtr vs m4 xdrive) or throttle house rs5 vs m4 vs gtr. M4 xdrive beats it from a dig and a roll stock for stock while having way better tech and luxury interior
Best outro in the game
Just my personal preference but I like the body lines of the m3 better. 🤷♂️
The ending is sublime
Shoot, for $10,000 less starting you can get a new Z06. It has a more livable ride, better performance, and feels more special. Thats it, conversation over.
Pretty much this.
Yeah and those Z06 engines are blowing up and good luck getting a Z06 for $115k.
@@Yukon6255 good luck getting any new sports car for msrp
@@thenumber102k I just got my 2025 m4cs with $3k rebate. I had to call over 12 dealerships but I got lucky.
All C8s including the Z06 is very heinous inside and out and will not age well. Also has the classically crap GM build quality, unlike most German-built sporty vehicles
Steering feel definitely agree, like my M2 feels a little light for what it is, if it was a hydraulic system like my Ford GT , issue sorted.
Thank God that BMW Group has shifted around all of their Designers between all of the companies they own, I have HOPE for Future BMWs bringing back some classic/unmistakable BMW design language! The M3/M4 has grown on me, but damn I miss the E46 M3.
Love that camera angle for the hot lap.
It's a sketchy watch guy car.
Sketchy dudes wear Breitlings.
@@r0b3rt_959 yes we do. I own an Emergency.
😂 FACTS. Invicta owners unite!😂
Breitling guy car 🥸
I absolutely love the way these videos ends 😂
Okay but here's my two cents: Can manufacturers stop making their cars heavier, then release a "lightweight" version of it for more money, then make the next generation even heavier, rinse and repeat?
“Forget everything you know ✨🧙🏾♂️” 😭😂😂
@ 3:55 🤓 Patrick Bateman did kill someone with a chainsaw in American Psycho
BMW = Bargain parts bin of the same shtty inline-6 in EVERY wannabe sports car.
The main thing i learned this episode is that James isn't just the fancy British voice, he can drive too!
First off, what planet can you even get a GT4 RS on? Second, which other planet can you get a GT4 RS for the base price which you are quoting of the GT4 RS, which realistically runs $225K US, with no dealer markup.
164k on usa for gt4rs
Not the RS just a GT4.
@@nijabudeenmohammedn5354No way. Not for GT4 RS. At lease not in the US and in USD. Used, common spec GT4 RS are $225k+ usd
I totally agree, this is way more fun, than a wild turkey!!
Not gonna lie The BMW M4 CSL is looks so good actually
What's the difference between cs and csl?
@@BinisaElebo CSL is lighter
@@BinisaElebothey explained that in first minute and a half of the video, basically csl in some things but less extreme in other things, but more extreme than normal M4
@@BinisaElebo The CSL is Has a slightly more aggressive suspension setup, RWD only and is slightly lighter.
@BinisaElebo L stands for "Lightweight" . They should've named the first one CSW. That way, they could've taken the W
Love and appreciate the back seat camera! 👋
I’d rather a ZO6 for that price, so I am and will 😂
Well it isn’t the same market
Completely different cars wtf 🤦♂️
@@ToyotaChariotsthe cs is not a daily driver. If you think so just drive one lol
@@eastonnida8213 At least it can fit 2 adults and 2 kids + 2 golf bags. The Z06 might be able to fit a few golf balls 🤣😂😂
If you look at the times, the dark horse is only a second slower for waay cheaper. That really surprised me
The “Wild Turkey” was the perfect ending. 😂
2:50 actually it's worse, ALL 2025+ 4-series get them now
Why is it worse when it's the only good design element on this monstrosity and other ugly cars now get it?
@@jkliao6486 maybe worse is the wrong word to use here... They are great looking lights that used to set the top tier models apart. If you're spending 3 times as much on a special car, ideally you'd want some bits to stand out and be special. Placing them on the lower tier models "devalues" the top tier models.
@@seb42 If you buy a top trim performance track model for a different real light design, you are the problem and you can only blame yourself when the lights are not exclusive to your 175k car. You know scalpers are mad about LEGO putting a single exclusive minifig from a $599 big set into a $10 small set. It's the same energy, utter stupidity to put it that way.
@@jkliao6486 90% of buyers of this kind of car/price are doing so for the prestige. Limiting that tail light to the high end model, as silly as it may seem, is part of that prestige. It's something that makes it more special. Rational? No. But neither is spending this kind of money on a car.
Not the case, it's only m440i and above. The four cylinder variants do not receive the laser taillights (430i and lower).
The CSL tailights actually come on every 4 series starting 2025. Sooo 430i s have csl lights..
That front end is really growing on me. I wasn’t really a fan when it first came out but I really like it now. It’s undeniable and very aggressive, which I like. When Audi first did the big grill in the s4 I wasn’t a fan either, now it just works.
2:10 James actually remember Thomas number?? Mindblown, I cannot even remember my own number
Wyh are there a billion versions of the M cars now?
It’s just 4 versions my guy, you don’t even need more than one hand.
that matte green is amazing color!!
I'm sorry but the price is daft...
I own one (in the UK) and it's a brilliant car. It's a very different, and much improved over competition M4. I find the suspension more comfortable compared to my previous M4 LCI, more compliant, more planted. It's playful but controlled. This is BMW's answer to Porsche 992 GTS with daily practicality. I love it.
It's still ugly though....why not get a less ugly M2 for 1/2 the price and nearly as fast on a roadcourse. BMW will never match high end P car times
@fzr1000981 looks are subjective, I like it. The driving dynamics are on another level to any other BMW M car. And I had an M2. Great little cars but rwd only.
Aside from the looks, we have horrible steering, drivetrain fault/limp mode, insane pricing, no manual transmission.
I mean, if a Model 3 has better steering than a BMW, we've lost the plot.
coming out of the drift he caused the car to roll backwards while in drive, the car automatically disengages drive and puts the drivetrain into limp mode to save the gearbox. BMW autos have been doing this for generations, it's not new and makes sense imo. I was learning to drift in an F32 and it did this as well.
the base m4 has manual trans
This will be pretty sick once it depreciates. I'm seeing CSLs for like 30k off msrp with under 5k miles on them already
James gotta ditch the long sleeve shirts now that he's picked up the weights😊😊😊😊
😂true
I need the eye candy
James is low key gunna buy this car cuz of the awd. And the excellent Diff.... 😊
Two things; can BMW finally admit the beaver teeth are fugly and get rid of them? Secondly, at that price are they crazy?
The G8X cars are everywhere.
Will you admit you're in the minority with that opinion?
Your not gonna buy it, why talk trash>
Is the prize crazy? All CS- and CSL- models have sold out until this one. I doubt anything will change with this.
@@sophiacameron4716 They would be everywhere regardless bro...
@@VDOGG656 he is speaking as if nobody likes them. If that was the case they would not be so much on the road. People don't spend their hard earned money on things they don't like.
"If you want a more sedate one that's a little less more sedate" - hahaha, I had to rewind and listen to that twice 😂
It wasn’t a donut it was just bad driving… car just think had an accident
Yea and they didn't have traction off and or in track mode which is what they were doing.
Rolling backwards in second gear like "what what happened....? we just did a donut" 😂
The problem is there aren't any roads where you can make use of the "fun factor"; you'll have to take it to a track, and 99% of buyers will never do that, so what we end up with are a lot buyers who are basically just posers ...
Really like that shot from the rear of the cabin
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So you guys also familiar with her? Whoa! She is amazing and the reason my spouse and I possess our own home and car
love the incar camera angle it really shows the chasis movement
This Mustang eh M4 is still way too heavy. Thats why I won't buy it in Gran Turismo
The Speedmaster is a great choice by Thomas, my favorite watch and such a beautiful timepiece!
Can you imagine spending near or over $100,000 on a car that sounds like a broke Honda D-Series?🚽
All BMW’s sound like shit , same goes for Porsche and all these guys who review them always say how amazing they sound . 911 sounds like my old Briggs and Stratton mower . And you’re right , BMW sounds like a civic .
Agreed. Modern cars sound terrible with very few exceptions. People fawn over the BMWs engines, or Porsche - but yes, they both sound unmusical. Give me a Maserati 4.7, a Busso V6, or a 240Z Inline 6 any day over those. Musical notes.
@@maciejswiercz9737 that's a trademark of bmw and porsche - absolute garbage of a sound. I agree that it's so stupid to see reviewers calling garbage noices (some of them from a speakers) as a "good engine sound", while my vaccuum cleaner has more sound range and emotions
at least past 2010ish
@@maciejswiercz9737 BMW w b58 (single turbo) and aftermarket downpipe sounds fine. its an inline 6. the twin turbo is what makes it sound shitty. turbos are mufflers
Wow!! 5:53 can we take a moment to appreciate these seats in a freakn m4 ? They look like something in a 600k supercar. This car sounds amazing and its not the UK one pumping sound in. My new dream car along side a 911
Bmws carbon buckets are terrible. Super uncomfortable and still weight a lot compared to Porsche buckets
@@ihyln1 boy how u are wrong on that. My dad had a porsche targa gts with buckets and he said he'll never get them again and got a turbo s without them. He works at porsche and the number of people that get them and complain later and opt for the comfy seats he says is insane. He's driven my g82 with carbon buckets and says they are WAY more comfortable and actually usable for daily driving. Bare in mind he's 6"5 and 230 lbs. I love mine.
BMW has lost their way… coupes are huge and the design is so far from the classic, clean lines of the 90’s and early 2000’s.
Thomas' ability to spot a bottle of whiskey is second to none.
Holy 650 lb ft, finally BMW giving us the real numbers
Edit: yes I’m aware it’s NM, just a BMW underrating power joke
Lol TH corrected it. It was 650nm
Typo.. Its 650nm, not lbs
James was driving the wheels off that M5 CS🔥
Grill is still hideous.
Good thing for BMW is that the people speak with their money. The g8x platform m3 and m4 have outsold the older f8x m3 and m4 by nearly double per year. Look it up. It came with their highest price tag yet and is still hard to keep in stock.
@@G82Watts Sure. Thats fine. I can live with that. It’s still fugly.
its not tho the g80 m3 is beauty and the buck teeth are legendary atp. but the g82 m4 is ugly and looks like a mustang. the g80 and g87 m2 are ones to get
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 g82 with csl tail lights look way better then the generic m3 ones. I like both but the m4 looks faster cuz it's a coupe. Also I think the adro grille only looks good on the m4
@@G82Watts adro front end only looks good on the m4 for sure its gross on the m3. as far as taillights the csl tails are cool but not a big deal to me. i prefer the wide hips of the m3 any day. and the m340i looks miles better than the m440. the g22 is gross
Yeeeaaaahhhh Thomas you're gonna wanna get that number changed, that bleep ain't cuttin it
I'm not a cultured car guy but all these BMW sedans and coupes look the same to me and have no sex appeal.
Nah their not
Lmao not trying to say it matters. But if been through drive thrus and whether it's a girl or guy they are always gushing about the car. Wondering what it is and how I can afford it , etc.. so ion know about that one ❤
I would buy one. Love the M4 G82 its so good on Assetto.
for every like this gets the M5 weighs 10 pounds less
Top notch performance but why not spare some pennies and buy a g82 comp and fit it with the engine, trans and diff software of the cs?
paying 120 grand to have an inline6 is pure comedy. It's up there with the new c63s.
10:55 BMW 👑