It's amazing this camera and review is four years old, and it's still interesting enough for me to pick it up a Black Friday deal (for probably half of the price it was introduced when launched). Great detailed walkthrough, review and discussion in this unique format as always! Btw, you can actually power the LX10/15 into Playback without extending the lens, but it does requires two fingers: One holding the playback button, the other flipping the power switch to ON. I really enjoy this camera as a daily "24-70 in my pocket". Love the fact it can assign ISO directly to a dial (I use the front dial around the lens for it) that makes manual ISO control a joy, just like the DC-G9 I use otherwise (Direct ISO control on the rear dial). I have a ton of other Panasonic m43 cameras that does NOT allow you to do this... and here so important, allowing me to really take advantage of that image stabilizer while shooting quick and easy in P mode and enjoying every second of it.
I own the LX100 the ZS100 and the LX10 - also the Canon G7X - RX100 - RX100m4 love your show - keep them coming - thanks for all your good shows the LX10 is really nice little camera - has all the features of more expensive models and is loaded with features - 4k photo / burst - Post focus - Stacked focus - etc etc This is a ultra small body - so yes do not expect hot shoe, mic in and headphone jacks :) this is a small pocketable camera - not a pro video machine - as such it is nice - gives sharper images then the Canon G7X - and it gives you 10 min 4k videos with out overheating issues - where as my RX100m4 is dead at 3-5 min - and in warm weather 3min - The LX10 has the F1.4 at 24mm - so best light gathering in its class - I just tilt camera upside down - no issue with high up shots The RX100m4 is nice and has the EVF - but also $300 more - but I love the interface of the LX10 - Full Touch LCD - with 5 soft Fn buttons - problem free 4K - For me the fun factor to use the LX10 over my RX100m4 is clear - the LX10 a clear winner -
the Lx 10 the clear winner? I'm trying to decide between LX10, Sony RX100 V or Panasonic G85 for vlogging purposes- do you not find the AF on the LX10 a bit slow? How is the image stabilization with the LX 10? WHat are teh max bitrates for UHD and FHD with eth LX 10? (I have two m43 panasonic cam bodies- GH3 & GX8 already and quite a few lenses but none on the wider focal length, wide aperture AF end yet) but am atttracted to the G85 for its dual IS 2 and external mic option..- Thank you for any feedback
Kaysha I ordered the rx100 mk v since I found an open box like new one for over $120 off and for fast paced vlogging the sony's ultra fast world class AF for me is the winner plus 24fps raw photos, 960fps slow mo, viewfinder and higher FHD bitrates (Sony shoots FHD at 60Mbps..the LX 10 only at 28Mbps) (I have Panasonic gx8 and g85 for 4K photo and interchangeable lenses and g85 the best stabilization and in 4K too
justinspirational great, I'm sure you will love it. I have the GH4 and been vlogging with the GF7 with a 15mm Leica. But the lack of IS is a nightmare for vlogs. I have long hesitated between the g7x and the rx100v but the features of the lx10 are perfect for me and I stay in the panasonic universe
congrats on your new purchase- is the IS known to be good with the LX 10 (couldn't see any info on that in my research which is partially why I couldn't resist the G85 too, with Dual IS 2 in up to 4k amongst other things)- I come from a m43 panasonic (GH3 & GX8) line too with a bunch of lenses but no stabilization (for video at least) and no decent wide enough AF lens for vlogging (I have a manual focus 12mm t1.6 which isn't practical for vlogging)- how is the leica 15mm for vlogging?- is it wide enough and is the panasonic wide angle converter compatible with it? Is this it? www.adorama.com/ipc1517b.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA39_BBRD0w-_rmOrc__8BEiQA-ETxXQv-r8xuBctxx-XtredkuFT7cHUu1JhZfMsElq8irHsaAuyI8P8HAQ Thank you
I'm really torn between the lx15 and the RX100v for vlogging. Having lots of Panasonic cameras already, I'm used to their menus and image already, but Sony's universe looks interesting too
They're both great choices - both have screens that will face you, both have 1080 or 4k video, sadly neither has an external mic input though. The Lumix is much cheaper though - you're paying a premium for the RX100 V to have the ultra slow motion video and phase-detect AF, and remember the Lumix also has a touchscreen whereas the Sony does not.
I was very excited about the LX10 because on paper it seems to be a winner. However, TH-cam video comparisons of actual footages seem to tell us otherwise. Two years after this review, the top 3 contenders are still the RX100 V (the VI is different), LX10 and G7X mk2, in no particular order.
I have the LX5 (from 2010) and I feel from watching this video that this new LX10/15 is the real successor to the LX5. The LX7 was a small upgrade but this camera has a 1" sensor and all the rest. It is amazing what Panasonic have done.
Good review. However I miss one thing. I understand that the LX15 dont have stabilisation for 4k video. Would this kind of render it useless for handhelt shooting 4k? That would be a really big issue. And the crop, would 36mm work for the moste case?
Best low light 1inch sensor camera on the market. No evf or tilting screen because this would add weight, bulk and cost. You want an evf slightly larger sensor, go for the lx100, it's more expensive and a bit bigger. Can't put super fast low F stop lenses on large sensors without increasing the physical size of the lens. So it's always a compromise of size weight and costs. I've got the lx100 and also a fuji x100 type camera, this has a much larger Apsc sensor an F2 fixed lens and evf, but it's pretty big, can fit in a large coat pocket, it's also far more expensive. I've also got the lx100 and multiple full frame and Apsc bodied DSLR's, and lenses. This lx15 will be my next camera due to its size and speed of lens. It's not going to be able to take a photo of a black cat running around an unlit coal mine like my 1dx with 50mm f1.4 lens. But I can at least put it in my pocket and grab some great low light street scene shots. Plus the video should be pretty good. I'm unsure if the f1.4 using a crop on 4k, will yield such good results as the lx100mk1, that uses about 1inch of the sensor in 4k mode at f1.7, which is actually a larger sensor area used than on the lx100 mk2. But should be better than most of the offerings from canon, Sony or Nikon in the 1inch camera sensor market. For those looking for a camera for specific needs, do plenty of research, less is sometimes more and vice versa. More pixels allow for more cropping, but less pixels mean they are bigger in size and produce better lower light, slower shutter speed photos, with all other things being equal
Power on with the play button? OMG I've had the TZ-35 for 4 years and I nevre knew that. I just tried it now and it powers on straight into play mode, amazing. Well, I can't miss a feature I never knew I had haha. I'm thinking of getting the LX-15 for travelling and good night time city shots.
Thanks for the video. I've had moments where I don't want to bring my dslr in cities, so in the market for a nice point and shoot. My girlfriend had the Sony Rx100 2, is it worth me purchasing the lx10, lx100 or a rx upgrade?
Thanks Gordon for the great review. I am planning on buying the LX10 primarily for the faster lens. My primary use will be photography and wide angle interiors. Given those aspects, I chose the LX10 over the Sony RX100V. My question to you is how does the LX10 compare to the RX100V for interior potentially low light situations at 24mm? I would assume the LX10 would win but did your experience confirm that assumption?
Well, f1.4 is two thirds of a stop brighter than f1.8, so when both are at 24mm, the Lumix will be able to deploy a sensitivity 2/3 of a stop slower. But the sensor on the Sony is more modern. I hope to do a direct comparison - currently testing the Mark V so can't say for sure.
Great video guys and as an amazing coincidence, just as you said you liked the option on a compact where you can just press the playback button as well as the power button to turn it on, I was pressing the playback button on my Fujifilm F600EXR. So I agree with you, it's a feature I want and use all the time.
Thanks for your review- does it have AF sensitivity adjustment like the new feature the G85 comes with? What are the bitrates for FHD and UHD? How is the stablization for on the go 'vlogging'? (trying to decide between this, the G85 and sony RX100 V for vlogging..(I already have m43 lenses though yet to invest in a fast wide angle AF lens)
justinspirational I think my next camera would be the G85. I have the ep5 and recently gf7. Love the 5 axis on the ep5 love the touch screen on the gf7 and the selfie screen. I hope the 5 axis on the G85 is as good as Olympus.
Prime Tambayong I ended up getting the g85 for interchangeable lenses and dual IS 2 and the Sony rx100v for a compact pocketable size instead of the lx10 as it has superior AF, up to 1000 fps slow Mo, higher 1080p bitrates (60 Mbps a opposed only 28 with the lx10 & g85) an evf and up to 24fps shooting raw stills as well as great IS and (limited) 4K
That's the most interesting pillow fabric design behind you....last week, (June 2020) I bought a Fuji XM1 body mint for 150. With that great tilting screen. The 16-50 for $140. It's square format jpeg, especially using black and white, is amazing. I'm testing it as a 20"x20" print this week. From the jpeg. Looks like I need to use manual focus in video mode, tho, to escape from the continual auto focus.
wow thanx great review, by the way i notice Sony RX100 iv and v was the comparison used vs the LX100, does that mean RX100 iii is lower than LX100 overall performance??
Actually, of all the rx100 series, m3 is the best choice if you're only interested in photos and not 4k. And I think 4k is nonsense for non vlogger people. I tested all of them and I bought the rx100m3 last month. My main criteria is viewfinder, hi.res LCD, the fast focusing lense and the size+weight.
He was saying these small cameras are his second camera for travel, meaning he probably still takes a bigger camera as his number 1. He was talking about the rx100 iv not the LX10 at that point since that's the one he owns.
Gordon, Doug, thanks for the great review of the LX10/15. I am currently looking for a compact camera with 1 inch sensor or larger with about 24-70mm eq lens, hotshoe, mic input, flipping screen(or fully articulating), and good video autofocus. Do you know if such camera exist? I am planning to use it for both off camera flash environmental portrait and for vlogging using small shotgun mic on top. Thank you in advance!
Sadly while some of the small 1in models have hotshoes, there aren't mic inputs on any of them - you need to go to the larger DSLR-styled models to get a mic input. I really think the manufacturers are missing a trick here for vloggers.
I really think so too Gordon, I see more and more people are looking for such small camera for vlogging with option to enhance audio, me included, but no such camera exist yet. Anyway thanks for the reply Gordon, seems like I'm stuck with my GX8 for vlogging, which in my opinion isn't small enough.
Thanks for your views on a camera segment where I am shopping. The LX10 seems to have it all and the price point is a winner too. Only negative is the video is about 10 min too long.
I can't get my head totally around when (other) reviews call a camera a vlogging camera, the perfect or best vlogging camera etc... they inevitably don't have a mic jack... :(
Thanks Gordon. I've got a question, I've used my a6000 for video making a lot and more often than not my a6000 over heats when I'm recording a 20 minute clip or longer, even in a fairly cold outdoor environment. One instance in fact while recording a short interview for a psychology class, my 6000 over heated around the 20 minute mark, an a5000 that I was using for the second camera heated shortly after that. Have you, or anyone else reading this, experienced this consistent over heating issue during video with the a6000 or more broadly on these small mirrorless bodies in general? I've been a camera labs reader for years, thanks for the consistent info.
Hi Ben, yes sadly it's not uncommon on bodies this size, although they are getting better at it. On the more recent A6300 and A6500, I've been able to film for the best part of an hour, and in 4k too. As far as the older A6000 is concerned, you can help things by tilting the screen up to allow airflow behind it. It should improve things a little, but you'll still come up against overheating before long on that model.
Sad to see the MULTI-ASPECT RATIO SENSOR abandoned on the LX series here, but the 1" sensor pixel density is ideal for pocketability. Also, at least they should have the reach of 24-90mm, like the LX-5 had. 72mm isn't a real tele. I don't understand why multi-aspect isn't more popular. I use it all the time on the LX100; though, the LX100 is too large for carryability. Someone needs to include a mic jack. Great video with lousy audio makes no sense. Great review!
I really can't decide either, I am between the RX 100 and the LX10. My wife is having a baby and I want to have the perfect compact camera to catch every moment. Price is not the problem, I just want the best. After watching this however, I am thinking now the Mark II. This is so tough. I did like the 4K of the LX10 and shooting without overheating but that stabilization is awful. I like the Mark II but the image quality in pictures I don't think are as good as the Sony. Maybe the Sony is the best if you want the image quality and 1080p recording without worrying about 4K. I think I am dropping the LX10 and now considering Canon vs Sony. What do you think the best would be for capturing family events no matter where you are? Video and Pictures?
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the lx10 is none of the aftermarket batteries fit so batteries are like 40 usd. I also noticed a lot of focusing issues especially during low light situations. Im hesitant to spend 1k on a camera, would u rather have the rx100 m4 g7x m2 or this camera for daily vlogging?
Is video recording on this camera AF noise free? I mean i bought GX 800 and footage is recorded with terribly loud noise from continuous AF and can be heard when watching video... What about LX10 / LX15?
Quote of the video "I've only got a smooth ring that feels great" Sorry couldn't resist :D Seriously though, I'm in the market for a premium compact and your insight is invaluable :)
So I'm confused. I just bought this camera. If I shoot a 4K video I can then go back in the playback mode and grab 8MP photos? I thought you had to be in 4K photo mode that would not produce a usable video for later (like if you want to export it in a watchable manner, like MP4)?
As I recall, you can export / extract a JPEG from movie footage even if it wasn't recorded in any of the 4K Photo modes. There should be an icon for it at the end of the play / fast forward icons. Check the manual for details.
I tried this camera and liked quite alot about it with its good stills and video quality and various features. But I found the image stabilization was its Achilles heel as it is really poor in 1080p and it was a dealbreaker for me, so I will try out the G7X Mark II instead.
Thank you for the video. I have a question about video recording time. I understand record 4K video will over-heat the camera, what about record in 1080P? Also, is 1080p video only use the middle bit of the sensor? Thanks
4k clips are limited to 15 minutes per clip, but I recorded five in a row and the battery ran out before overheating became an issue. 1080 uses the full sensor width. See my review at cameralabs.com for full details.
Gordon in Japan this camera is under the name of the Lx9 , oh i think the Qaulity of Jpeg's on the Lx9/10/15 is better than the RX100 MK5, would you agree with that , Going by DP Review comparion or is it just my eyes.
Well, something about play button for review the pictures, in my G7X this is not perfect solution, because it can be pressed in a bag or pocket, and when is that happen, it could easily be also pressed fire button and then lens goes out, but in a pocket or a bag this probably will cause a fail.
I've just sold my Sony M3 and I'm looking around to see if a Panasonic would be something for me, but I'm worried about focusing on the Panasonic cameras, how well do they focus? And no, I didn't use the viewfinder very much on the Sony either
@@cameralabs Yes it was the RX100 M# I sold. And I wanted to know how good the focus on the Panasonic LX 10. The LX10 has some great features as well ☺and for me, this camera would be my 2 camera, just to put in a pocket when I'm out and about
@@Zuzzanna the AF speed and confidence is similar between the LX10 and the RX100 III, so if you're happy with the RX100 III, then you'd be happy with the LX10 in this regard. if you want more confident AF, you'll need to upgrade to the RX100 V or later, and sadly those are getting quite expensive.
Hello Gordon Really enjoying this reveiw - your presenting of the cameras features are really very informative and gives a great overview while still being easy to follow. I am seriously considering buying a "pocket size" digital camera for the days where I don't want to carry my full frame camera with a couple of lenses with me. Now I realise, that I am a bit late to the party given the 3 cameras I will mention, but right now, mainly because of the price today in 2023, I am considering the Lumix LX15 vs. the Sony RX100 Mk.3 or to go with the Ricoh GRII that has an aps-c sensor which I guess is an advantage over the 1" of the other two, but on the other hand is limited to a fixed 28mm focal length. I am in two minds about the EVF that only the Sony has, but coming from traditional still photography, both digital and analog, I tend to be weary about being without a viewfinder. I know it is probably just about getting used to shooting from a screen, but I worry that it will take away the feeling of shooting a camera and being too much like using a smartphone "camera" ? However, the absolutely most important thing is image quality - so comparing the 3 options, LX15, RX100M3 and GRII (favouring maybe the two 1" for their zoom ability and considerably lower used price) .......... which one would you recommend ? Oh, and by the way, I should maybe add that I mostly shoot in aperture priority, so the dedicated aperture ring is a big bonus for me :-) Thanks in advance !! You just gained another subscriber ! :-) Cheers Peter
I just picked up a very good, used Sony RX100VA and, as a Sony shooter, am very impressed with it and happy with my choice. I love having the viewfinder on it and it is a good one. However, within one day of owning it, I purchased and installed the Sony AG-R2 accessory attachment grip ( $20 CAD) which is more or less a "must have" as the camera body is very small and very smooth and awkward to hold -the RX100 M3 has the identical body. The grip makes a world of difference in confidently holding the camera. I also purchased an extra battery and charger for it. and currently am using a Peak Design neck or wrist strap to securely hold it. Ergonomics is definitely something to consider when purchasing these cameras- it would be best if you could actually try them out before you buy.
It's a real shame about no ND filter, otherwise what's not to like about it. I had a used Sony RX100 mk iv and it may have had fantastic specs but was terrible to handle-no grip, unless you buy one which looked weird on mine and didn't feel right. Kudos to Panasonic-they do make innovative cameras with excellent lenses-and competitively priced, too! So despite no ND filter, the LX10 is still the clear winner because it is simply giving a more pleasing overall user experience at a far better price! Oh, and excellent video weighing up pros an cons and making choosing cameras easier based on your undeniable expertise :)
Gordon - Love your videos and to help support you and Doug, I've bought you coffee and bought your book? Your discussion about the loss of true f1.4 as you zoom out - makes me think. My concerns are image stabilization (due to a stroke, I am not really steady.) I also have heard rave reviews about the Olympus cameras. If I want the best clarity from the best glass at a reasonable cost AND want great image stabilization, which brand, similar in size to the LX10 and other micro 4/3 could give me that. Lumix has stabilization in the camera and lens - do any others or is there one that just has it in the camera, but is as good as the lumix?
Thanks for your support Richard! Do you want a fixed lens camera or one with interchangeable lenses, and how important is size? I should say I remain very fond of the LX10 / LX15 even though it's not that new anymore.
Gordon - I like the size of the lx10, but I would like a better grip - which I can buy. I have a GX85 that I just bought and it is a bit heavy and I would get a better grip for that too. If one the size of the LX10 were available with a fixed fast lens with image stabilization and a good grip and a sharper lens, I might go for it. I like the features of the LX100, but the 4k Photo is totally unlike the gx85 and I’m not sure if the stabilization would preclude my needing 4k photo. I was finally able to get some good shots with the 4k photo of the gx 85, but I don’t want to carry all the lenses around. Upon contemplation, would a 24-70 on a Lumix be long enough for Street Photography and Portraits, or do you think I would really miss being able to get out to 120 or 240mm Don’t expect exact answers, just your thoughts. I guess I’m just not aware of how good image stabilization is on non-Panasonic cameras. Rich
Hi Richard, the IS on smaller cameras rarely matches what is available on bigger ones, the Sony RX100 series is a case in point. SO it depends if it's good enough? In the 1in sensor class, I'd definitely compare the LX10, RX100 series and Canon G7X II, and if you want a long range in a small body, Sony's latest RX100 VI is pretty impressive, although if you want a long range, you'll miss out on the bright aperture. Can't have both in a small package. I think the best IS on a small camera is from Olympus on their Micro Four Thirds bodies, but Panasonic's MFT bodies are catching up.
Anyone owning that camera had a trouble with the sound the camera makes? It sounds like a ventilation from the inside. Only when the lens is out. Some says the noise comes from the stabilisation or autofocus, but it sounds very noisy to be just that? I just got that camera and I've had an hybrid one for years without any sound like that. I might sound dumb but I'd really like to know if it is a normal thing. x
Since I have heard that Lumix cameras often have problems with dust, i was looking for the possibilty of a "real cap". With the LX100 you are able to unscrew the front ring to put a cap on. Is his also possible with the LX10?
It's a cameralabs podcast. Doug and I aren't on TWIP anymore. You can subscribe to me here on youtube, and if you want the audio version, it's on iTunes at itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cameralabs-photography-podcast/id1173815610
Gordon and Doug -I like your reviews, but, in the future, please remember to include sample photos and videos that you took with the camera. Please discuss image quality at both ends of the focal range and image quality in shady or overcast conditions. Many thanks, Bob.
Why do people complain the grip? In fact you seldom use it with one hand only. And you don't carry them holding the grip. I have the rx100m3 and all I can say it is the smallest, slimmest and the most compact than the competition.
Probably good idea is to wait for nikon dl, according to rumors we might see it around January. That camera outperforms lx15 easily with given on list specs.
I like to fully test products before declaring one is better than another! But I am very excited about the Nikon DL and it's such a shame it was delayed so long.
I wouldn't choose the LX-10 over the LX100, the view finder and larger sensor will win every time for me. The manual controls are better too. A used LX-100 is a massively better proposition than the LX-10.
There's pros and cons to both. The LX100's sensor is bigger, but it doesn't use all of it and in my tests the major benefit was uncropped different aspect ratios rather than better low light performance. Having an EVF is great, but I personally don't get on with the 16:9 field sequential panel in the LX100. I do like the grip and the controls make more sense on the LX100 though. In its favour, the LX10 / LX15 is smaller, has a brighter lens at 24mm, has a screen that tilts and is touch-sensitive and also supports the latest 4K Photo modes like Post Focus and Focus Stacking. That said, the LX100's 4K and 4K Photo modes don't crop as much, so you get wider coverage. Lots to weigh up but I wouldn't say one is better than the other overall - it depends which features are most important to you.
I use the lumix lx 7 for my videos and I am very happy. I have it since 4 years and it does a great job. I was working with Canon before but for video, I think Panasonic is now better. I think The new lx10/lx15 is not good as the lx7. For the image stabilisation, the lens (24-90 in lx7), the nd filter (lose in the lx10), and the lx10 crops in video where the lx7 don't. Thanks for this great review
Damn Panasonic and their naming conventions, mostly because of the NTSC vs PAL thing? Does it matter, I mean most Panasonic's can be set to either in the hidden service menu...
Fair enough, but they could've done that by not messing up the model numbers. Panasonic's lineup is a confusing mess because of it. Besides couldn't they have that bit of info in the production number or another spot where all this information about the model is placed. Just sayin' :P
Also I'm pretty sure the FZ1000 for example, is called that around the globe, while it's successor the FZ2000 is in PAL regions called the FZ2500. Making it sound like an upgrade of the FZ2000, while it is the exact same cam. Like I said, on most Panasonic's you can access the service menu and change the NTSC/PAL setting to get more FPS. Which kinda makes these odd model numbers a bit of a moot point, right :D 25/50/100/200 vs 30/60/120/240
Really?????????? A one second delay is annoying???????? Get a grip sir: patience is a virtue not a PIA. Micro niggles. Get back to basics and you will enjoy your photography much, much better. All I need is a basic camera with great sharpness and resolution, a very accurate spot meter, and a terrific sensor: and this is my technique used for 54 years of photographing. I fully realize that this is a review of a camera and that I appreciate.
oh gordon ! I miss your reviews ! i dont know how u remain busy but u need to find more time and review more lenses and cameras ( bcoz i know u wud do much better) and school the others with millions of views but endup speaking data sheets ....
nice review and it proper compare with sony bu HECK it only $1.01 less than x70 so if you need to choose so for sure x 70 personally me prefer Panasonic cameras, but it more expensive than lx100 and many of mirrorless on today camera. price kill all
Selbstdarsteller.... Mich interessiert die Kamera und nicht das Gesicht von diesem Pausenclown. Und wenn interessante Dinge an der Kamera gezeigt werden, dann muss man auf Pause drücken um was zu sehen, weil dieses schnelle Gefummel in die Kamera einfach nur dämlich und bescheuert ist.
It's amazing this camera and review is four years old, and it's still interesting enough for me to pick it up a Black Friday deal (for probably half of the price it was introduced when launched). Great detailed walkthrough, review and discussion in this unique format as always! Btw, you can actually power the LX10/15 into Playback without extending the lens, but it does requires two fingers: One holding the playback button, the other flipping the power switch to ON. I really enjoy this camera as a daily "24-70 in my pocket". Love the fact it can assign ISO directly to a dial (I use the front dial around the lens for it) that makes manual ISO control a joy, just like the DC-G9 I use otherwise (Direct ISO control on the rear dial). I have a ton of other Panasonic m43 cameras that does NOT allow you to do this... and here so important, allowing me to really take advantage of that image stabilizer while shooting quick and easy in P mode and enjoying every second of it.
I own the LX100 the ZS100 and the LX10 - also the Canon G7X - RX100 - RX100m4
love your show - keep them coming - thanks for all your good shows
the LX10 is really nice little camera - has all the features of more expensive models and is loaded with features - 4k photo / burst - Post focus - Stacked focus - etc etc
This is a ultra small body - so yes do not expect hot shoe, mic in and headphone jacks :)
this is a small pocketable camera - not a pro video machine -
as such it is nice - gives sharper images then the Canon G7X - and it gives you 10 min 4k videos with out overheating issues - where as my RX100m4 is dead at 3-5 min - and in warm weather 3min -
The LX10 has the F1.4 at 24mm - so best light gathering in its class -
I just tilt camera upside down - no issue with high up shots
The RX100m4 is nice and has the EVF - but also $300 more - but I love the interface of the LX10 - Full Touch LCD - with 5 soft Fn buttons - problem free 4K -
For me the fun factor to use the LX10 over my RX100m4 is clear - the LX10 a clear winner -
the Lx 10 the clear winner? I'm trying to decide between LX10, Sony RX100 V or Panasonic G85 for vlogging purposes- do you not find the AF on the LX10 a bit slow? How is the image stabilization with the LX 10? WHat are teh max bitrates for UHD and FHD with eth LX 10? (I have two m43 panasonic cam bodies- GH3 & GX8 already and quite a few lenses but none on the wider focal length, wide aperture AF end yet) but am atttracted to the G85 for its dual IS 2 and external mic option..- Thank you for any feedback
Just ordered mine. 3 days to wait
Kaysha I ordered the rx100 mk v since I found an open box like new one for over $120 off and for fast paced vlogging the sony's ultra fast world class AF for me is the winner plus 24fps raw photos, 960fps slow mo, viewfinder and higher FHD bitrates (Sony shoots FHD at 60Mbps..the LX 10 only at 28Mbps) (I have Panasonic gx8 and g85 for 4K photo and interchangeable lenses and g85 the best stabilization and in 4K too
justinspirational great, I'm sure you will love it. I have the GH4 and been vlogging with the GF7 with a 15mm Leica. But the lack of IS is a nightmare for vlogs. I have long hesitated between the g7x and the rx100v but the features of the lx10 are perfect for me and I stay in the panasonic universe
congrats on your new purchase- is the IS known to be good with the LX 10 (couldn't see any info on that in my research which is partially why I couldn't resist the G85 too, with Dual IS 2 in up to 4k amongst other things)- I come from a m43 panasonic (GH3 & GX8) line too with a bunch of lenses but no stabilization (for video at least) and no decent wide enough AF lens for vlogging (I have a manual focus 12mm t1.6 which isn't practical for vlogging)- how is the leica 15mm for vlogging?- is it wide enough and is the panasonic wide angle converter compatible with it? Is this it? www.adorama.com/ipc1517b.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA39_BBRD0w-_rmOrc__8BEiQA-ETxXQv-r8xuBctxx-XtredkuFT7cHUu1JhZfMsElq8irHsaAuyI8P8HAQ Thank you
I'm really torn between the lx15 and the RX100v for vlogging. Having lots of Panasonic cameras already, I'm used to their menus and image already, but Sony's universe looks interesting too
They're both great choices - both have screens that will face you, both have 1080 or 4k video, sadly neither has an external mic input though. The Lumix is much cheaper though - you're paying a premium for the RX100 V to have the ultra slow motion video and phase-detect AF, and remember the Lumix also has a touchscreen whereas the Sony does not.
Gordon Laing Just ordered the LX15, now patiently waiting
I was very excited about the LX10 because on paper it seems to be a winner. However, TH-cam video comparisons of actual footages seem to tell us otherwise. Two years after this review, the top 3 contenders are still the RX100 V (the VI is different), LX10 and G7X mk2, in no particular order.
gordon you are so dam good at what you do. your enthusiasm and depth of knowlege impresses me so much after every video.
Thankyou!
Finally someone with a legit review/breakdown of the Lumix 10/15. Thanks
You're very welcome! Check out my complete review at cameralabs.com for even more information!
I have the LX5 (from 2010) and I feel from watching this video that this new LX10/15 is the real successor to the LX5. The LX7 was a small upgrade but this camera has a 1" sensor and all the rest. It is amazing what Panasonic have done.
Good review. However I miss one thing.
I understand that the LX15 dont have stabilisation for 4k video. Would this kind of render it useless for handhelt shooting 4k? That would be a really big issue.
And the crop, would 36mm work for the moste case?
Best low light 1inch sensor camera on the market.
No evf or tilting screen because this would add weight, bulk and cost.
You want an evf slightly larger sensor, go for the lx100, it's more expensive and a bit bigger.
Can't put super fast low F stop lenses on large sensors without increasing the physical size of the lens.
So it's always a compromise of size weight and costs.
I've got the lx100 and also a fuji x100 type camera, this has a much larger Apsc sensor an F2 fixed lens and evf, but it's pretty big, can fit in a large coat pocket, it's also far more expensive.
I've also got the lx100 and multiple full frame and Apsc bodied DSLR's, and lenses.
This lx15 will be my next camera due to its size and speed of lens.
It's not going to be able to take a photo of a black cat running around an unlit coal mine like my 1dx with 50mm f1.4 lens.
But I can at least put it in my pocket and grab some great low light street scene shots.
Plus the video should be pretty good.
I'm unsure if the f1.4 using a crop on 4k, will yield such good results as the lx100mk1, that uses about 1inch of the sensor in 4k mode at f1.7, which is actually a larger sensor area used than on the lx100 mk2.
But should be better than most of the offerings from canon, Sony or Nikon in the 1inch camera sensor market.
For those looking for a camera for specific needs, do plenty of research, less is sometimes more and vice versa.
More pixels allow for more cropping, but less pixels mean they are bigger in size and produce better lower light, slower shutter speed photos, with all other things being equal
Somebody told me that this camera takes like 7 seconds to start recording video. Is it true?
Not true for me. As soon as you press the record button, it records immediately.
prnoflin ouf... That's what I thought, this person must be doing something wrong. I'll have the chance to test by myself soon as mine arrives monday
Like most cameras there's a delay of about one second, but certainly not 7!
Gordon Laing that's exactly what I replied to him after getting lots of answers. His unit must have a problem
Very handy as go-everywhere-always camera. Many thanks for the excellent review.
I love your reviews and appreciate all of your efforts!
Power on with the play button? OMG I've had the TZ-35 for 4 years and I nevre knew that. I just tried it now and it powers on straight into play mode, amazing. Well, I can't miss a feature I never knew I had haha. I'm thinking of getting the LX-15 for travelling and good night time city shots.
Thanks for the video. I've had moments where I don't want to bring my dslr in cities, so in the market for a nice point and shoot. My girlfriend had the Sony Rx100 2, is it worth me purchasing the lx10, lx100 or a rx upgrade?
There is a lot of info about the LX10 having issues with keeping face recognition in focus when compared to the competition.
Hiaruga I thought I had a hair on my phone..lol
haha me too, damn it!
That's a decent review, thank you so much!!
I have a question; do you recommend it in December 2020? If not, what are the alternatives?
Thanks Gordon for the great review. I am planning on buying the LX10 primarily for the faster lens. My primary use will be photography and wide angle interiors. Given those aspects, I chose the LX10 over the Sony RX100V. My question to you is how does the LX10 compare to the RX100V for interior potentially low light situations at 24mm? I would assume the LX10 would win but did your experience confirm that assumption?
Well, f1.4 is two thirds of a stop brighter than f1.8, so when both are at 24mm, the Lumix will be able to deploy a sensitivity 2/3 of a stop slower. But the sensor on the Sony is more modern. I hope to do a direct comparison - currently testing the Mark V so can't say for sure.
Great video guys and as an amazing coincidence, just as you said you liked the option on a compact where you can just press the playback button as well as the power button to turn it on, I was pressing the playback button on my Fujifilm F600EXR. So I agree with you, it's a feature I want and use all the time.
I'm glad I'm not going mad!
Hi do you know how to see the shutter count on the lx15 please?
Thanks for your review- does it have AF sensitivity adjustment like the new feature the G85 comes with? What are the bitrates for FHD and UHD? How is the stablization for on the go 'vlogging'? (trying to decide between this, the G85 and sony RX100 V for vlogging..(I already have m43 lenses though yet to invest in a fast wide angle AF lens)
justinspirational I think my next camera would be the G85. I have the ep5 and recently gf7. Love the 5 axis on the ep5 love the touch screen on the gf7 and the selfie screen. I hope the 5 axis on the G85 is as good as Olympus.
Prime Tambayong I ended up getting the g85 for interchangeable lenses and dual IS 2 and the Sony rx100v for a compact pocketable size instead of the lx10 as it has superior AF, up to 1000 fps slow Mo, higher 1080p bitrates (60 Mbps a opposed only 28 with the lx10 & g85) an evf and up to 24fps shooting raw stills as well as great IS and (limited) 4K
Great information, many thanks to both of you!
That's the most interesting pillow fabric design behind you....last week, (June 2020) I bought a Fuji XM1 body mint for 150. With that great tilting screen. The 16-50 for $140. It's square format jpeg, especially using black and white, is amazing. I'm testing it as a 20"x20" print this week. From the jpeg. Looks like I need to use manual focus in video mode, tho, to escape from the continual auto focus.
Excellent review - one question... when you turn on the camera, does the lens extend all the way out? Can you take photos without extending the lens?
The lens has to extend before you can take photos - same for most cameras like these with zoom lenses.
@@cameralabs thanks!
wow thanx great review, by the way i notice Sony RX100 iv and v was the comparison used vs the LX100, does that mean RX100 iii is lower than LX100 overall performance??
Actually, of all the rx100 series, m3 is the best choice if you're only interested in photos and not 4k. And I think 4k is nonsense for non vlogger people. I tested all of them and I bought the rx100m3 last month. My main criteria is viewfinder, hi.res LCD, the fast focusing lense and the size+weight.
Doug, you said the LX10 is your #2 pocket camera 24-70, what is your #1?
He was saying these small cameras are his second camera for travel, meaning he probably still takes a bigger camera as his number 1. He was talking about the rx100 iv not the LX10 at that point since that's the one he owns.
Gordon, Doug, thanks for the great review of the LX10/15.
I am currently looking for a compact camera with 1 inch sensor or larger with about 24-70mm eq lens, hotshoe, mic input, flipping screen(or fully articulating), and good video autofocus. Do you know if such camera exist? I am planning to use it for both off camera flash environmental portrait and for vlogging using small shotgun mic on top.
Thank you in advance!
Sadly while some of the small 1in models have hotshoes, there aren't mic inputs on any of them - you need to go to the larger DSLR-styled models to get a mic input. I really think the manufacturers are missing a trick here for vloggers.
I really think so too Gordon, I see more and more people are looking for such small camera for vlogging with option to enhance audio, me included, but no such camera exist yet. Anyway thanks for the reply Gordon, seems like I'm stuck with my GX8 for vlogging, which in my opinion isn't small enough.
Canon m6
Thanks for your views on a camera segment where I am shopping. The LX10 seems to have it all and the price point is a winner too. Only negative is the video is about 10 min too long.
Hi Gordon, how about the pop-up flash? It's it a leaf shutter so people can use a lot higher shutter speed for the Flash?
Gordon can you comment on the AF in selfie mode. Ive seen examples showing you need to tap to focus on the face in order to get the camera to focus.
I can't get my head totally around when (other) reviews call a camera a vlogging camera, the perfect or best vlogging camera etc... they inevitably don't have a mic jack... :(
Damian Brown photography with old point shoot camerlas
Damian Brown shooting with old point and soot cameras
Thanks Gordon. I've got a question, I've used my a6000 for video making a lot and more often than not my a6000 over heats when I'm recording a 20 minute clip or longer, even in a fairly cold outdoor environment. One instance in fact while recording a short interview for a psychology class, my 6000 over heated around the 20 minute mark, an a5000 that I was using for the second camera heated shortly after that. Have you, or anyone else reading this, experienced this consistent over heating issue during video with the a6000 or more broadly on these small mirrorless bodies in general? I've been a camera labs reader for years, thanks for the consistent info.
Hi Ben, yes sadly it's not uncommon on bodies this size, although they are getting better at it. On the more recent A6300 and A6500, I've been able to film for the best part of an hour, and in 4k too. As far as the older A6000 is concerned, you can help things by tilting the screen up to allow airflow behind it. It should improve things a little, but you'll still come up against overheating before long on that model.
Own this. Excellent portable macro camera.
hi gordon, does the 1080p crop or is it true 24mm?.. lso the 120p. thanks v much
Sad to see the MULTI-ASPECT RATIO SENSOR abandoned on the LX series here, but the 1" sensor pixel density is ideal for pocketability. Also, at least they should have the reach of 24-90mm, like the LX-5 had. 72mm isn't a real tele.
I don't understand why multi-aspect isn't more popular. I use it all the time on the LX100; though, the LX100 is too large for carryability.
Someone needs to include a mic jack. Great video with lousy audio makes no sense.
Great review!
I really can't decide either, I am between the RX 100 and the LX10. My
wife is having a baby and I want to have the perfect compact camera to
catch every moment. Price is not the problem, I just want the best.
After watching this however, I am thinking now the Mark II. This is so
tough. I did like the 4K of the LX10 and shooting without overheating
but that stabilization is awful. I like the Mark II but the image
quality in pictures I don't think are as good as the Sony. Maybe the
Sony is the best if you want the image quality and 1080p recording
without worrying about 4K. I think I am dropping the LX10 and now
considering Canon vs Sony. What do you think the best would be for
capturing family events no matter where you are? Video and Pictures?
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the lx10 is none of the aftermarket batteries fit so batteries are like 40 usd. I also noticed a lot of focusing issues especially during low light situations. Im hesitant to spend 1k on a camera, would u rather have the rx100 m4 g7x m2 or this camera for daily vlogging?
Is video recording on this camera AF noise free? I mean i bought GX 800 and footage is recorded with terribly loud noise from continuous AF and can be heard when watching video... What about LX10 / LX15?
Lots to like about this camera BUT the handling due to its smooth casing makes it very, very slippy. Could have included a better grip.
Can you use the LX10 while its charging via USB? If I plugged it in to a USB power brick could I greatly extend my recording times on the go?
Thanks for your response. I ended up buying the camera a while back and realized this. I wish it was possible, but I still love this camera.
best review on this Little cam. when is g85 review coming as a video? looking forward. great great work
Quote of the video "I've only got a smooth ring that feels great" Sorry couldn't resist :D Seriously though, I'm in the market for a premium compact and your insight is invaluable :)
So I'm confused. I just bought this camera. If I shoot a 4K video I can then go back in the playback mode and grab 8MP photos? I thought you had to be in 4K photo mode that would not produce a usable video for later (like if you want to export it in a watchable manner, like MP4)?
As I recall, you can export / extract a JPEG from movie footage even if it wasn't recorded in any of the 4K Photo modes. There should be an icon for it at the end of the play / fast forward icons. Check the manual for details.
Thank you! Your videos rock! Where can I donate (I take nothing for granted)?
Thanks for your support! You can donate via paypal here: www.paypal.me/cameralabs
Without the viewfinder, how do you know if the object is exactly in focus?
Using a digital zoom feature or the edges get highlighted when focussed in this zoom
I tried this camera and liked quite alot about it with its good stills and video quality and various features. But I found the image stabilization was its Achilles heel as it is really poor in 1080p and it was a dealbreaker for me, so I will try out the G7X Mark II instead.
Thank you for the video. I have a question about video recording time. I understand record 4K video will over-heat the camera, what about record in 1080P? Also, is 1080p video only use the middle bit of the sensor? Thanks
4k clips are limited to 15 minutes per clip, but I recorded five in a row and the battery ran out before overheating became an issue. 1080 uses the full sensor width. See my review at cameralabs.com for full details.
Gordon Laing I really appreciate your reply. I will hop over your website for details.
Gordon in Japan this camera is under the name of the Lx9 , oh i think the Qaulity of Jpeg's on the Lx9/10/15 is better than the RX100 MK5, would you agree with that , Going by DP Review comparion or is it just my eyes.
I'll be doing a direct comparison between the LX (9,10,15!) and RX100V in my upcoming RX100V review...
Gordon Laing please compair Jpeg and Dynamic Range Qaulity as most shoot with Jpeg, love your video's.
Sir: Why not show us your award-winning photos. It'd help us judge the camera in the context of how you shoot.
I provide loads of sample images with every review I do at cameralabs.com and post all my personal photography on FB, Twitter and Instagram.
Well, something about play button for review the pictures, in my G7X this is not perfect solution, because it can be pressed in a bag or pocket, and when is that happen, it could easily be also pressed fire button and then lens goes out, but in a pocket or a bag this probably will cause a fail.
I've just sold my Sony M3 and I'm looking around to see if a Panasonic would be something for me, but I'm worried about focusing on the Panasonic cameras, how well do they focus?
And no, I didn't use the viewfinder very much on the Sony either
Which Panasonic in particular? And which Sony is that, the RX100 M3?
@@cameralabs Yes it was the RX100 M# I sold. And I wanted to know how good the focus on the Panasonic LX 10.
The LX10 has some great features as well ☺and for me, this camera would be my 2 camera, just to put in a pocket when I'm out and about
@@Zuzzanna the AF speed and confidence is similar between the LX10 and the RX100 III, so if you're happy with the RX100 III, then you'd be happy with the LX10 in this regard. if you want more confident AF, you'll need to upgrade to the RX100 V or later, and sadly those are getting quite expensive.
@@cameralabs Thank you for getting back to me
@@Zuzzanna no problem! PS - if you're buying online, please consider using my price check links here and at cameralabs.com thanks!
Hello Gordon
Really enjoying this reveiw - your presenting of the cameras features are really very informative and gives a great overview while still being easy to follow.
I am seriously considering buying a "pocket size" digital camera for the days where I don't want to carry my full frame camera with a couple of lenses with me.
Now I realise, that I am a bit late to the party given the 3 cameras I will mention, but right now, mainly because of the price today in 2023, I am considering the Lumix LX15 vs. the Sony RX100 Mk.3 or to go with the Ricoh GRII that has an aps-c sensor which I guess is an advantage over the 1" of the other two, but on the other hand is limited to a fixed 28mm focal length.
I am in two minds about the EVF that only the Sony has, but coming from traditional still photography, both digital and analog, I tend to be weary about being without a viewfinder. I know it is probably just about getting used to shooting from a screen, but I worry that it will take away the feeling of shooting a camera and being too much like using a smartphone "camera" ?
However, the absolutely most important thing is image quality - so comparing the 3 options, LX15, RX100M3 and GRII (favouring maybe the two 1" for their zoom ability and considerably lower used price) .......... which one would you recommend ?
Oh, and by the way, I should maybe add that I mostly shoot in aperture priority, so the dedicated aperture ring is a big bonus for me :-)
Thanks in advance !! You just gained another subscriber ! :-)
Cheers
Peter
I just picked up a very good, used Sony RX100VA and, as a Sony shooter, am very impressed with it and happy with my choice. I love having the viewfinder on it and it is a good one. However, within one day of owning it, I purchased and installed the Sony AG-R2 accessory attachment grip ( $20 CAD) which is more or less a "must have" as the camera body is very small and very smooth and awkward to hold -the RX100 M3 has the identical body. The grip makes a world of difference in confidently holding the camera. I also purchased an extra battery and charger for it. and currently am using a Peak Design neck or wrist strap to securely hold it. Ergonomics is definitely something to consider when purchasing these cameras- it would be best if you could actually try them out before you buy.
It's a real shame about no ND filter, otherwise what's not to like about it. I had a used Sony RX100 mk iv and it may have had fantastic specs but was terrible to handle-no grip, unless you buy one which looked weird on mine and didn't feel right. Kudos to Panasonic-they do make innovative cameras with excellent lenses-and competitively priced, too! So despite no ND filter, the LX10 is still the clear winner because it is simply giving a more pleasing overall user experience at a far better price! Oh, and excellent video weighing up pros an cons and making choosing cameras easier based on your undeniable expertise :)
Gordon - Love your videos and to help support you and Doug, I've bought you coffee and bought your book? Your discussion about the loss of true f1.4 as you zoom out - makes me think. My concerns are image stabilization (due to a stroke, I am not really steady.) I also have heard rave reviews about the Olympus cameras. If I want the best clarity from the best glass at a reasonable cost AND want great image stabilization, which brand, similar in size to the LX10 and other micro 4/3 could give me that. Lumix has stabilization in the camera and lens - do any others or is there one that just has it in the camera, but is as good as the lumix?
Thanks for your support Richard! Do you want a fixed lens camera or one with interchangeable lenses, and how important is size? I should say I remain very fond of the LX10 / LX15 even though it's not that new anymore.
Gordon - I like the size of the lx10, but I would like a better grip - which I can buy.
I have a GX85 that I just bought and it is a bit heavy and I would get a better grip for that too.
If one the size of the LX10 were available with a fixed fast lens with image stabilization and a good grip and a sharper lens, I might go for it.
I like the features of the LX100, but the 4k Photo is totally unlike the gx85 and I’m not sure if the stabilization would preclude my needing 4k photo.
I was finally able to get some good shots with the 4k photo of the gx 85, but I don’t want to carry all the lenses around.
Upon contemplation, would a 24-70 on a Lumix be long enough for Street Photography and Portraits, or do you think I would really miss being able to get out to 120 or 240mm
Don’t expect exact answers, just your thoughts. I guess I’m just not aware of how good image stabilization is on non-Panasonic cameras.
Rich
Hi Richard, the IS on smaller cameras rarely matches what is available on bigger ones, the Sony RX100 series is a case in point. SO it depends if it's good enough? In the 1in sensor class, I'd definitely compare the LX10, RX100 series and Canon G7X II, and if you want a long range in a small body, Sony's latest RX100 VI is pretty impressive, although if you want a long range, you'll miss out on the bright aperture. Can't have both in a small package. I think the best IS on a small camera is from Olympus on their Micro Four Thirds bodies, but Panasonic's MFT bodies are catching up.
Quality
Nikon COOLPIX B700 vs Nikon COOLPIX B500 JPEG quality MAN what a nice job of course you deserve a cup of coffee and a subscription
And I LOVE the Fuji dials!
Anyone owning that camera had a trouble with the sound the camera makes? It sounds like a ventilation from the inside. Only when the lens is out. Some says the noise comes from the stabilisation or autofocus, but it sounds very noisy to be just that?
I just got that camera and I've had an hybrid one for years without any sound like that.
I might sound dumb but I'd really like to know if it is a normal thing.
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Is it possible to put on a lense cap?
The lens cap is built in and slides across automatically when powered down.
Since I have heard that Lumix cameras often have problems with dust, i was looking for the possibilty of a "real cap".
With the LX100 you are able to unscrew the front ring to put a cap on. Is his also possible with the LX10?
Nice MiniMoog sofa.
Has anyone made prints for this or any other camera sensor this size. ? I'm a printer guy
Help me choose between LX10 and Canon G7X MKII.
My whole review compares them, especially on the verdict page. Check it out at www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_LX15/
DPreview just announced the LX10 best in its class
Is this on all about the gear podcast or is it cameralabs podcast? I will like to subscribe to it.
It's a cameralabs podcast. Doug and I aren't on TWIP anymore. You can subscribe to me here on youtube, and if you want the audio version, it's on iTunes at itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cameralabs-photography-podcast/id1173815610
alright, subscribed, both here and overcast. thanks gordon, love your show.
good review thanks for your time and effort
Great review, thanks
Unfortunately I have a huge problem with dust in mine. Really ruining an otherwise great camera.
Gordon and Doug -I like your reviews, but, in the future, please remember to include sample photos and videos that you took with the camera. Please discuss image quality at both ends of the focal range and image quality in shady or overcast conditions. Many thanks, Bob.
All the sample images, sample movies and quality comparisons are in my main review at cameralabs.com - check it out!
post focus is a must have :)
Excellent review, thanks.
You're welcome!
Interesting video! Thanks!
cool and detailed review
Thanks!
Why do people complain the grip? In fact you seldom use it with one hand only. And you don't carry them holding the grip. I have the rx100m3 and all I can say it is the smallest, slimmest and the most compact than the competition.
Shame they lost the hot shoe for ex flash & powered view finder
Probably good idea is to wait for nikon dl, according to rumors we might see it around January. That camera outperforms lx15 easily with given on list specs.
I like to fully test products before declaring one is better than another! But I am very excited about the Nikon DL and it's such a shame it was delayed so long.
I wouldn't choose the LX-10 over the LX100, the view finder and larger sensor will win every time for me. The manual controls are better too. A used LX-100 is a massively better proposition than the LX-10.
There's pros and cons to both. The LX100's sensor is bigger, but it doesn't use all of it and in my tests the major benefit was uncropped different aspect ratios rather than better low light performance. Having an EVF is great, but I personally don't get on with the 16:9 field sequential panel in the LX100. I do like the grip and the controls make more sense on the LX100 though. In its favour, the LX10 / LX15 is smaller, has a brighter lens at 24mm, has a screen that tilts and is touch-sensitive and also supports the latest 4K Photo modes like Post Focus and Focus Stacking. That said, the LX100's 4K and 4K Photo modes don't crop as much, so you get wider coverage. Lots to weigh up but I wouldn't say one is better than the other overall - it depends which features are most important to you.
Gordon, for a golfer the slomotion video can be important to better analize his swing;-)
I use the lumix lx 7 for my videos and I am very happy. I have it since 4 years and it does a great job. I was working with Canon before but for video, I think Panasonic is now better. I think The new lx10/lx15 is not good as the lx7. For the image stabilisation, the lens (24-90 in lx7), the nd filter (lose in the lx10), and the lx10 crops in video where the lx7 don't. Thanks for this great review
Welp, I almost bought the LX10, and got outbid. Good thing. I found out no built-in flash, no hot shoe, so...no sale.
It's also the LX9.
Gordon look like Gordon Matthew Sumner
Damn Panasonic and their naming conventions, mostly because of the NTSC vs PAL thing? Does it matter, I mean most Panasonic's can be set to either in the hidden service menu...
I think it's supposed to identify models as grey imports into other regions. For example, if you have an LX15, you know it's from the UK.
Fair enough, but they could've done that by not messing up the model numbers. Panasonic's lineup is a confusing mess because of it.
Besides couldn't they have that bit of info in the production number or another spot where all this information about the model is placed. Just sayin' :P
Also I'm pretty sure the FZ1000 for example, is called that around the globe, while it's successor the FZ2000 is in PAL regions called the FZ2500.
Making it sound like an upgrade of the FZ2000, while it is the exact same cam. Like I said, on most Panasonic's you can access the service menu and change the NTSC/PAL setting to get more FPS. Which kinda makes these odd model numbers a bit of a moot point, right :D
25/50/100/200 vs 30/60/120/240
I agree, I'm not defending them! The naming drives me mad!
Better wait the lx200.
best 1 inch camera with 1.4 lens..wow
Really?????????? A one second delay is annoying???????? Get a grip sir: patience is a virtue not a PIA. Micro niggles. Get back to basics and you will enjoy your photography much, much better. All I need is a basic camera with great sharpness and resolution, a very accurate spot meter, and a terrific sensor: and this is my technique used for 54 years of photographing.
I fully realize that this is a review of a camera and that I appreciate.
oh gordon ! I miss your reviews ! i dont know how u remain busy but u need to find more time and review more lenses and cameras ( bcoz i know u wud do much better) and school the others with millions of views but endup speaking data sheets ....
I spend weeks on each review at cameralabs.com - check them out!
Why is Gordon always wearing a hat inside?
nice review and it proper compare with sony bu HECK it only $1.01 less than x70
so if you need to choose so for sure x 70
personally me prefer Panasonic cameras, but it more expensive than lx100 and many of mirrorless on today camera. price kill all
Lumixtz3
Selbstdarsteller.... Mich interessiert die Kamera und nicht das Gesicht von diesem Pausenclown. Und wenn interessante Dinge an der Kamera gezeigt werden, dann muss man auf Pause drücken um was zu sehen, weil dieses schnelle Gefummel in die Kamera einfach nur dämlich und bescheuert ist.
too long
go elsewhere
Fare too long
just stop watching when you get bored.
Gordon Laing OK just try to make them between the 10 and 20 min time period unless you are livestreaming or movie making
I look some reviews on net and I am more convinced that is a crap camera with much of pubblicity. Too bad.
Were any of the reviews by credible sources? I think it's rather good.
Fantastic review, thank you.