different from twitch. twitch takes 50% and the streamer takes 50% also. douyin take 50%, the agency takes 10% and streamer left with 40%?? how to many money?
@@HONG38 Agency is not part of twitch person. If you stream by yourself without agency you will get the same proportion (or you will also get 40% if you use this agency and then stream at twitch)
When she said, "I'm too average for that" I'm like 💀. As an asian i found her as attractive more than those indoor Chinese live streamers using filters to make look their head looks like triangle from phineas and ferb.
You dont realize a lot of streamers can make way more money from live streaming than from being a waitress. Its not uncommon to make over the equivalent of over $2000USD a month, which is more than average salary of many jobs in China. The most successful live streamers in China are literally making millions of dollars per MONTH! This video talks about Douyin but China has many different live streaming platforms besides that, its an industry worth over a hundreds of billions of dollars. And keep in mind a dollars worth of money can buy you much more in China than in USA.
waitress or cleaner? u have no idea how much these people make,even those at the bottom of the pyramid.....like a youtube channel with 30 or 40k subscribers can easily make $500,$600 a month,100k subscribers about $1.3k to $2k a month if they churn out a video a week......and those are just bottom of the barrel......there are even some streamers and youtubers that are parasites and leeches,after a couple of years and they realise they have hit their peak and arent growing anymore but they refuse to quit and get a job,like stuck with sub 100k or 200k accounts, they basically turn their streams into begging streams.....begging and guilt tripping their viewers into donating every stream, their fan base becomes like their welfare support,they still manage to 'beg" like $100 to $200 a session and easily a few grand a month.... and the biggest streamers shyt.....the ones that have 10k+ people watching every streams.every few minutes they have $5,$10 donations pouring in,sometimes even $50 and $100 is nothing,sometimes they even get thousands of dollars in a single donation. its like insane after every stream they spend like an hour or two thanking people, and they have hundreds of people to thank......
They are probably educated and experienced enough to get a better job than those. But a better job, a waitress, a cleaner pay far less in China. You don't need to be a huge streamer either. You basically need a core community of people with a parasocial relationship with you. Mind you, 90% of the people who go all in streaming will fail to earn enough to make it worthwhile, and either give up and focus on something else (because it is so time consuming) or stick with it through poverty hoping they'll break through. @mng8680 comment makes it seem like people are making lots of money but the majority are not. It's not a secure or smart thing to do if you have a better path or you don't enjoy being an entertainer. btw the reason they use an agency is because all that equipment, which you need by default, is very expensive and getting opportunities on their own or building a brand would be a lot harder.
@@mng8680 yes some are making money no doubt. At the end of the day, it isn't a stable career if you aren't a well known influencer. Those making bank are big ones who don't have to go on the street at night so they look more pitiful to garner sympathy and more donations. If you whole career is based off that with you only ranking in 40% of the total income, I can tell you these particular streamers ain't mkaing much at the end of the day. See how many of them were on that street alone?? Especially now were costs of living are increasing I doubt people are willing to tip generously unless they really like your content. Saturation of the market is real ya'll.
@@moira4784 Well theyre still young and can afford to be entrepreneurial, some might have a goal to grow their viewerbase in the long term. Theres always the option for them to go back to doing the more traditional stable income jobs if they decide streaming isnt working out, a lot of them actually have university level education so they can likely find a different job if they tried hard enough.
If this says anything, it's a testament to how safe China is. You can sit in the open at midnight, with a bunch of expensive gears and no one will bother you
Tbh you have a point for such a large nation to be able to be that safe in a lot of places, so honestly I wouldn’t mind living there as long as I could just use a decent vpn for going on the internet.
@@elosoderusia4598 actually some place in china is free TH-cam and facebook. Like Hainan You can access TH-cam for free . I'm currently living in hainan sanya for a vacation. No vpn needed
This shows how safe China is at night. Can you assure me that you can be this safe in the US or the West? You might not be 100% safe if you perform outdoor streaming in front of a police station in the US.
IRL live streamers that I'm used to are already having trouble with creepy fans that ambushed them even tho they're moving around. Meanwhile these live streamers stayed at one spot outside... A creepy random stranger watching her can just find her place (cuz she's stationary, and it seems like she streams with those crowd around her) and can just stalk her from there...
How does doing live stream outdoors with fancy cameras and lighting look dystopian? To me it looks like a pretty fun activity cause there are other people doing the exact same thing which you can chat with. These people arent forced to live stream or do it outdoors, they said they do it just to stand out from other live streamers to get more tips. Nothing in video suggests they are homeless or struggling financially if they dont live stream outdoors. Dystopian would be like Philadelphia USA where the streets have thousands of drug influenced people walking like zombies and the ground littered with garbage, you would never find streets like that anywhere in China.
@@mng8680 we had to hire security guards these last few yrs just to kick junkies off our doorstep who among other things took a dump there 😡 costs each of us an extra $500/month.
About the 50% rate, I think even lower on Twitch, for subs at least. I still don't grasp why it's more appealing to the audience to sing on the pavement...
Beautiful landscape and it's a comfy place for live stream ig? I mean, if they do it in their apartment or house, maybe their family member come to disturb them which maybe can make the viewers annoy? CMIIW
they are showcasing their talent and earn money. That's not begging at all. selling their skills for a small return on a digital platform. Same as busking in street .
for digital sale platform like Apple Store, Google Play Store, Steam. Platform take as high as 30% while 70% is for publisher/developer. This haven't include publisher and developer various internal cost/fee. And this 30% fee lead to various lawsuit between parties. This case where Douyin take as much as 50% from the tips... Wow.... it really opened my eyes, i start to wonder whether there is others platforms in other industries take more than 50% renevue.
7usd let's say 10usd per day multiple by 30days 1month is equal to 300usd per month 😢= 35000 😱😱😱such money here can't even earn by hard worker labourers per month . Reason for going on media these days
TH-cam pays from the ads . If she is singing for Chinese audience then ad revenue will be from the local China advertisers . i don't think revenue will be much different after Google takes their commision.
1:46 Douyin takes 50%, agency takes 10%.. SIGH :( Douyin should reduce their cut, make it 20%. Or at the least give the small timers / beginners some slack.
It's about the proximity, most of them are streaming near IT parks, high income residential complexes and wealthy subdivisions in order to increase the chance of getting bigger tips
I came to youtube in search of happy videos to get me motivated to do my chores.. and now i am just sad for these people. They work hard, but the return on time investment seems minimal.
Me : douyin 😐 what is that ! After read the describtion ... Douyin is china version of tiktok . 😃 This is also happen in cina .. Hahahaha . Ppls live stream begging for tips ... I thought all ppls in cina are all milliarder .. 😂 Greetings from indo...
Tiktok is the global version, douyin is for the local market. The government pretty much forced bytedance to create a duplicate app but strictly for china only
you didnt know this? TikTok is the western version of Douyin. both created by ByteDance a chinese company. also there are chinese who uses TikTok as well though
@@kyleterry5190 becasue douyin is not the same as TikTOk. with Douyin you can make payments and all that stuff as well. its like a super app like WeChat. you can literally do everything with it. with TikTok we have you cant.
Douyin takes 50% of the income, 10% for the agency, and only 40% for the streamer. If that is not unfair, I don't know what is.
different from twitch. twitch takes 50% and the streamer takes 50% also. douyin take 50%, the agency takes 10% and streamer left with 40%?? how to many money?
isnt that the same as twitch? twitch take 50% too. Also not every streamer on douyin is with an agency
@@LDLK ya. but the streamer keeps 50% also. for me its fair. like if i make 10K twitch takes 5K, and i got 5K i'm ok with it
That's literally the same proportion. If a Twitch streamer belongs to an agency, that agency will also take a cut.
@@HONG38 Agency is not part of twitch person. If you stream by yourself without agency you will get the same proportion (or you will also get 40% if you use this agency and then stream at twitch)
When she said, "I'm too average for that" I'm like 💀. As an asian i found her as attractive more than those indoor Chinese live streamers using filters to make look their head looks like triangle from phineas and ferb.
And what do you look like? 💀
@@Hihi-fh1cq That's the groious reader you swine.
@@Hihi-fh1cq bruh he is supreme leader, he doesnt need to be handsome, he got nukes!
Why don't you marry her?
@@Hihi-fh1cq he was giving her a compliment and either you’re misunderstood or you’re a nincompoop. 😂
Income fully relies on 40% of tips? She is a strong one. I would have become a waitress or cleaner by now. 😭😭
You dont realize a lot of streamers can make way more money from live streaming than from being a waitress. Its not uncommon to make over the equivalent of over $2000USD a month, which is more than average salary of many jobs in China. The most successful live streamers in China are literally making millions of dollars per MONTH! This video talks about Douyin but China has many different live streaming platforms besides that, its an industry worth over a hundreds of billions of dollars. And keep in mind a dollars worth of money can buy you much more in China than in USA.
waitress or cleaner?
u have no idea how much these people make,even those at the bottom of the pyramid.....like a youtube channel with 30 or 40k subscribers can easily make $500,$600 a month,100k subscribers about $1.3k to $2k a month if they churn out a video a week......and those are just bottom of the barrel......there are even some streamers and youtubers that are parasites and leeches,after a couple of years and they realise they have hit their peak and arent growing anymore but they refuse to quit and get a job,like stuck with sub 100k or 200k accounts, they basically turn their streams into begging streams.....begging and guilt tripping their viewers into donating every stream, their fan base becomes like their welfare support,they still manage to 'beg" like $100 to $200 a session and easily a few grand a month....
and the biggest streamers shyt.....the ones that have 10k+ people watching every streams.every few minutes they have $5,$10 donations pouring in,sometimes even $50 and $100 is nothing,sometimes they even get thousands of dollars in a single donation. its like insane after every stream they spend like an hour or two thanking people, and they have hundreds of people to thank......
They are probably educated and experienced enough to get a better job than those. But a better job, a waitress, a cleaner pay far less in China. You don't need to be a huge streamer either. You basically need a core community of people with a parasocial relationship with you. Mind you, 90% of the people who go all in streaming will fail to earn enough to make it worthwhile, and either give up and focus on something else (because it is so time consuming) or stick with it through poverty hoping they'll break through.
@mng8680 comment makes it seem like people are making lots of money but the majority are not. It's not a secure or smart thing to do if you have a better path or you don't enjoy being an entertainer.
btw the reason they use an agency is because all that equipment, which you need by default, is very expensive and getting opportunities on their own or building a brand would be a lot harder.
@@mng8680 yes some are making money no doubt. At the end of the day, it isn't a stable career if you aren't a well known influencer. Those making bank are big ones who don't have to go on the street at night so they look more pitiful to garner sympathy and more donations. If you whole career is based off that with you only ranking in 40% of the total income, I can tell you these particular streamers ain't mkaing much at the end of the day. See how many of them were on that street alone?? Especially now were costs of living are increasing I doubt people are willing to tip generously unless they really like your content. Saturation of the market is real ya'll.
@@moira4784
Well theyre still young and can afford to be entrepreneurial, some might have a goal to grow their viewerbase in the long term. Theres always the option for them to go back to doing the more traditional stable income jobs if they decide streaming isnt working out, a lot of them actually have university level education so they can likely find a different job if they tried hard enough.
These are apparently called micro-celebrities. It's a different kind of work but it is work none the less and I can respect the grind.
@Brahmin Wellington your name is brahmin 🤔
I wouldn't call someone who makes 40% of $1.50 per day a celebrity...
I don't think the empathy card works if the viewers can see another streamer right behind you lol
Rii? 😭
Who said girl is average, she is absolutely gorgeous
In east asia, there are plenty of girls that look like her, my mom looked like her when she was young
@@kevinfeng1113 yup
What the majority of the west thought of average east asian/south-east asian girls are considered unattractive here....
She is average with tonnes of makeup
She said it herself.
It certainly is depressing to see a society collapse within itself.
She admitted to being average. If she was an Amerikan she would think she was a 10.
Why do the things you want when you can do what everyone else does. Kinda vibe.
like wearing a furry suit??
why be happy when you can wear like your friends
@@frankargenti lol what i dont even own 1?
@@frankargenti wdym this doesn't make sense
Because it's uncreative and boring
Wait till they hear about green screens. They will be able to stream from paris to italy to atlantis under 20 minutes 😂
The music for this video is very nice and energetic. But this is concerning...
You are back to commenting!
Hey it's been a long time
Life is not easy.
Urrrrrraaaaaaaaa 💪💪💪💪💪
Being lazy is easy
I usually saw those streamers on Douyin. Thank you for elaborating the cause!
"Douyin, China's version of TikTok". but TikTok is from China..
🤣 true
China's tiktok is different from the international version and has alot lesser cringe dances and more educational shorts
@@czech8074 Dude Douyin is full of cringe dances
It's always tailored towards your interests anyway
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 how about china's tiktok
@@lolzz4049 Douyin is the name for Chinese tiktok
Douyin takes 50% !!? Like whaaaat! dude here 20~30% is considered overkill, average earning is 50$ and you loose 50% + 10% instantly lol
Twitch takes 50 percent also most music record companies takes 70 to 90 percent from artists also
First time diving in reaI worId?
@George Martinus There point is in many places in the real world that is not not normal.
TH-cam takes 55 =)
youtube takes 32% also, not as bad, but platforms do make a high percentage
Can the viewers even hear them sing with the traffic and other singers around them? BTW, she's also humble and pretty.
That's why she using mic close to her mouth
If you add foam mic it would even better to reduce environment noise
If this says anything, it's a testament to how safe China is.
You can sit in the open at midnight, with a bunch of expensive gears and no one will bother you
Tbh you have a point for such a large nation to be able to be that safe in a lot of places, so honestly I wouldn’t mind living there as long as I could just use a decent vpn for going on the internet.
@@elosoderusia4598 yep, if you speak the language, all you need is a vpn to have a very comfortable life
Until the CCP comes along 😂
@@elosoderusia4598 there a free wifi on that bridge fyi. 😂
@@elosoderusia4598 actually some place in china is free TH-cam and facebook.
Like Hainan
You can access TH-cam for free .
I'm currently living in hainan sanya for a vacation. No vpn needed
This shows how safe China is at night. Can you assure me that you can be this safe in the US or the West? You might not be 100% safe if you perform outdoor streaming in front of a police station in the US.
Yes, in fact you can do this in almost American cities.
IRL live streamers that I'm used to are already having trouble with creepy fans that ambushed them even tho they're moving around. Meanwhile these live streamers stayed at one spot outside... A creepy random stranger watching her can just find her place (cuz she's stationary, and it seems like she streams with those crowd around her) and can just stalk her from there...
No, they can't, and they aren't going too.
And there are many other people there, there wouldn't even be a chance for that to happen.
She's in China there are security cameras everywhere for safety and security.
Honestly you can't call it a tip if you're only getting 40% of it.
That is criminal.
i suddenly recalled wall-e film somehow
This is so absurd and funny!
She is not average she is rlly pretty
@Brahmin Wellington yeah it's like they think the average is 7 or something. Being 5 isn't bad at all.
Gorgeous and smart!
She's making alot of money compared to others
Well, at least they're out trying something.
Me? I'll stick to my 6 figure desk job....
Douyin takes 50% of the income, 10% for the agency, and only 40% for the streamer
The soundtrack was taken from a song from Manipuri called "enaktagee tamna" where it is music from northeast India of beautiful state
This is sooo dystopian
50% cut for platform??? Don't they already profiteering from the ads? Then 10% for agency... Hmmmm
Same as Twitch.
@@BrianWatkins-pu4le they are providing happiness thru entertainment, same for every other music artist and sport player in the world.
Even at 50% cut, the platforms often are taking a loss financially in exchange for growing market share.
Imagine a cave man seeing this. They be confused af
Extremely bizzare.
I respect the grind
Qiao Ya looks to me like she has the theatrical presence of Korean actresses
looks very dystopian thing.
exactly my thoughts
Life is not easy.
If they can make easy money they do it
How does doing live stream outdoors with fancy cameras and lighting look dystopian? To me it looks like a pretty fun activity cause there are other people doing the exact same thing which you can chat with. These people arent forced to live stream or do it outdoors, they said they do it just to stand out from other live streamers to get more tips. Nothing in video suggests they are homeless or struggling financially if they dont live stream outdoors. Dystopian would be like Philadelphia USA where the streets have thousands of drug influenced people walking like zombies and the ground littered with garbage, you would never find streets like that anywhere in China.
@@mng8680 we had to hire security guards these last few yrs just to kick junkies off our doorstep who among other things took a dump there 😡 costs each of us an extra $500/month.
She's so pretty
She was not average. She was the apple of my eye ❤
She should stream to western audiences. She would realize how non average she is.
It won't be starring Eddie Murphy but this is coming to America too
I’m guessing the guy adjusting the cameras and lighting is a top g lol!
About the 50% rate, I think even lower on Twitch, for subs at least.
I still don't grasp why it's more appealing to the audience to sing on the pavement...
The cut, same as Twitch bruh
Beautiful landscape and it's a comfy place for live stream ig? I mean, if they do it in their apartment or house, maybe their family member come to disturb them which maybe can make the viewers annoy? CMIIW
They're streaming near high income subdivisions or condominium complexes to increase the chances of receiving higher tips
Where does the other 40% go though? Also taking 50% is insane.
The new generation of beggars where they beg on TikTok and ask for donations.
Better then you asking ur mom😜
Also the new term is Digital beggar
@@johanbee8757how is it better than asking for money from parents?
onlyfans offer better ??
they are showcasing their talent and earn money. That's not begging at all. selling their skills for a small return on a digital platform. Same as busking in street .
The world truly became a cyberpunk society.
Don’t you need huge battery banks to charge your light stand and camera if this goes all night
Predatory capitalism
Wow what a career 😂😂😂
At least they breath fresh air outside.
You’ve obviously never been to China and breathed the air.😅
What app they used?
Touch grass in next level.
I want to know what the agency roles are. What do they bring to the table?
We help promote the clients and do all the stuff they do not want to do.
for digital sale platform like Apple Store, Google Play Store, Steam. Platform take as high as 30% while 70% is for publisher/developer. This haven't include publisher and developer various internal cost/fee.
And this 30% fee lead to various lawsuit between parties.
This case where Douyin take as much as 50% from the tips...
Wow.... it really opened my eyes, i start to wonder whether there is others platforms in other industries take more than 50% renevue.
Plz provide this thing in Homeless Los angeles
You mean twitch? Lol homeless people can’t afford phones and lighting equipment. Also a talent agency wouldn’t sign them
@@wtfcooldown9675 Chinese phones & equipments r cheap
@@D.2601 he said homeless Los Angeles. Do you think Los Angeles is in China??
so a professional e-beggars? got it
wow - its like a invitation for fan meet up..... especially for stalkers😑
Are you using the device or the device using you - Denzel Washington
What i see in common is making a lot of account and start grinding on the game at the same time...
But this....
It's the hard knock life!
Man life is strange in that part of the World
10 streamers nearby one another and all 10 streamers is singing 🤦🏻♂️
7usd let's say 10usd per day multiple by 30days 1month is equal to 300usd per month 😢= 35000 😱😱😱such money here can't even earn by hard worker labourers per month . Reason for going on media these days
wake me up, wake me up inside
Lifeless bots
Imagine if she had access to TH-cam, she could easily make 10x of that amount or even more.
Twitch maybe not TH-cam
@@kennyloong90 twitch is on the downhill lately
TH-cam pays from the ads . If she is singing for Chinese audience then ad revenue will be from the local China advertisers . i don't think revenue will be much different after Google takes their commision.
your delusion only ...
@@kennyloong90 twitch is L simp
That's Ásia for you. Not only china
1:46 Douyin takes 50%, agency takes 10%..
SIGH :(
Douyin should reduce their cut, make it 20%.
Or at the least give the small timers / beginners some slack.
For anyone who pays. Dont you feel terrible donating to live streamers than giving it to poor, needy or unfortunate people? I would...
Isn't like rocket science, you give money to whoever you like.
That pretty girl calling herself average. I don't know what beautiful is
what do they stream?
humankind is on the way to end ...
So the app is taking 50% which is BS and you only get 40%. In that case, might as well get a Monday to Friday job and have the weekend off
china already living at vr life
"theyre funny"
says the country with most deaths related to tiktok
Look at me, no look at me, no me me me!
Is there a reason why they cannot do livestreams at home? They are working GenZ who are not homeless. 🤷♀️
Apartment is small ( not optimal for livtreaming)and not every neighborhood are friendly or understanding when streamer do their job
she explained in interview, streaming outside midnight with really cold temp make viewer more sympathy thus more chances they giving big tips
@@ATELIERFREYA These people just can’t watch the whole video before asking questions.
streaming is noisy and their homes are often too small to do paid challenges
It's about the proximity, most of them are streaming near IT parks, high income residential complexes and wealthy subdivisions in order to increase the chance of getting bigger tips
Will this decrease their social credit?
Don't be fooled by the western media's propaganda. Man! Yoibhave your own brain! China is not what you think. Go there and take a visit.
This joke is kinda lame ,if you want to see real social credits go to usa
It’s a myth, you can watch Asian B0ss
these jokes are getting boring, sounds too political aswell.
@@AKDHFR sounds like sinophobia which it literally is
I came to youtube in search of happy videos to get me motivated to do my chores.. and now i am just sad for these people. They work hard, but the return on time investment seems minimal.
Welcome to what most people on Earth have to deal with
Is this a dystopian we live in ?
Why they need a agency if they can do it themselves
Umm what if the same thing happens in NYC
Bad sign. If everyone look forward to doing these, who will make the effort to do real job and contribute to society.
40% ? Why don't they go alone ? They can earn 50%. Why need talent agency for this ?
How tf do you live on $1.50 a day..?
In the U.K. we call the them beggars.
When the apps took more than the agencies or even talents
That's a sight
Me : douyin 😐 what is that !
After read the describtion ... Douyin is china version of tiktok . 😃
This is also happen in cina .. Hahahaha . Ppls live stream begging for tips ... I thought all ppls in cina are all milliarder .. 😂
Greetings from indo...
So at which point do they get a Norma job
Frankly,just do the basic job thats more than enough.
It's basically a new form of begging under a syndicate. That is just very bad.
yo 50% is taken by douyin ? 💀
@@BrianWatkins-pu4le aight bro thanks for the detailed information, yes i think we have to start seeing from douyin perspective then
Do that also on TikTok too in order reduce toxicity too
@@michaelsanchez1361 yes you are right
The future seems scary or i am getting old
TicTac is lame. Vine was way more creative IG killed that. IG won’t attempt that with TikTakky since they know IG is slowly dying.
Wait.
So tiktok is Chinese.
And the Chinese don't use it.?
Tiktok is the global version, douyin is for the local market. The government pretty much forced bytedance to create a duplicate app but strictly for china only
you didnt know this? TikTok is the western version of Douyin. both created by ByteDance a chinese company. also there are chinese who uses TikTok as well though
@@kyleterry5190 becasue douyin is not the same as TikTOk. with Douyin you can make payments and all that stuff as well. its like a super app like WeChat. you can literally do everything with it. with TikTok we have you cant.
And she only makes $43 to $87 per day. Very little to live off of, unless her cost of living is very low.
Not worth it IMO.
Yes, cost of living is low over there.
Where does the 40% go? Something not right
This looks very dystopian. India, never become like this I implore you 🇮🇳
India is too poor to be “dystopian” in the first place
In India, I don't think girls can sit at night and stream like that without worrying about their own safety though.
@@biboloxo you trolled him
@@brapoke it’s tru tho, india is famous for gang r@ping
@@biboloxo not to mention human corpses and faeces are everywhere on the street
Actually sad and something you’d see in dystopian movies fr
Qiao Ya is average? Geez. She should stream for western audiences. She would realize how non average she is.
Completely dystopic.
Wow!!