Kämpfer Development History
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The way they assembled this thing in a barn in the middle of nowhere and then blitzed it down the highway guns blazing is one of the coolest things I've seen in Gundam.
Probably wasn't that cool for Scarlet Team.
Killdozer but a ms
Kämpfer barn type
Attack: 100
Defense: 2
Speed: GOTTA GO FAST!
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
It’s like Ronin from Titanfall 2.
Speed: yes
Spider man in the ps4 game
Jesus, this thing would've been a nightmare if they had more time to develop it. imagine a fully decked out version.
A fully decked out version would be the YAMS-130B Greifer
Shotgun.. dual rockets.. dual panzerkampf thingies.. mean as hell
Build figthers?
@@blackpowderkun gbo2
Wood looks sick in a Blue urban camo also the Titania from the game is sick with it even if it is a odd like gray and pink
0:47 when a MS brings a mega sized MG42 to the battle that’s when you start running
*Erika intensifies*
@@unexpectedgouf5225I get jin roh vibes from the kämpfer prototype mg42
If only it’s armor wasn’t made out of paper.
@@zeroresenas998 at least unlike the Genoace, this was done so he can be fast as fuck BOI
If only Alex didn't have dumb extra armor
they can't help in, the Kämper is designed to be disassembled and be assembled inside an hostile colony. So they need to make the parts as light as possible including the armor.
@@granmastersword f for Genoace
@@granmastersword Genoace armor wasnt the issue... it was given a Nerf Gun and a spork while fighting in Vietnam war
The only reason why the Kampfer lost is because of the bloody armour of the Alex.
And thin armor😂
@@frangolemac1160 Yeah. I don't think the Alex's armor was the issue. The problem was that ANY mobile suit's armor (even a GM) was capable of withstanding the Kampfer only because the Kampfer's was very thin.
Kampfer was a great design in concept, but it sacrificed too much defense for offense. As a mostly close combat suit, it needs to be agile (which it was), but it needs a better balance between agility and defense. I feel like it couldve sacrificed some of its armament or something in order to slightly improve its armor. Maybe get rid of the bazookas and chain mines, keep only the sabers and shotguns? I don't know.
@@SpexSpexington
That shotgun wrecked a GM or 3 I think. The rockets or Sturm Fausts did a great number on the GMs and considering the chain mines they might've dobe great on Alex.
The REAL problem is not even the Alex's armor. It is the fact that the Kampfer pilor never reloaded any of his guns. If he just reloaded and came back for a surprise attack he could've killed the Alex.
@@TheKing-qz9wd or he could've used vulcans and aim, if possible, on the joint areas or dash around alex
@@frangolemac1160 or after using the chain mines, he could use the time the Alex was stunned to destroy it with the beam saber
This thing NEEDS a Master Grade 2.0.
Not only that. It BEGS for that much needed upgrade
a real grade too! more early UC Zeon MSs!
Mono Eye Master Race
Says the Zaku 1😂
Laughs in Gundam F90.
@@barrybend7189 MONO EYE MONASTER RACE...
CYLONS HAVE HACKED THE CHAT.
@@JeanLucCaptain Technique over technology. How dare you mock the humblest of mono eye units? Damn bi-eye sympathizers, your plot armor won't work in real combat!
@@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit Plot armour? I HAVE BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!
That's my favorite design from Zeon. I even prefer it over the Sazabi
I heard the design was so damn good that basically everybody used them in the Gryps war
I feel like it is a sazabi light in terms of general design aesthetics in terms of the curves, head, etc.
It feels like a sazabi that isn't a a relatively massive kit for its grade. That and the weapons gives it some nice variation.
Agreed
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Kämpfer is practically a late UC suit built in the OYW.
Modular, light weight, low armor, focus on speed.. Same as most suits from Victory era, just missing the beam weapons.
Rooster pretty much
Its more Late Gryps early Neo Zeon design.
And that is only because OYW technology couldn't build a rector powerful enough.
@@lemeres2478 laughs in Hildolfr mobile tank with 3000 KW reactor.
@@lemeres2478 GM's all had beam weaponry, as did Gelgoog, and the Rick Dom.
Would love a History vid for every bloody Jegan type in existence XD
My all time favourite line of Mass Production MS, with Stark Jegan almost stealing the spotlight fron Kshatriya.
The Titania was a variant of the Kampfer where the Noisy Fairy Unit managed to correct the Kampfer's defensive weaknesses that caused the downfall of the original Kampfer in its battle against the Alex. It had more armor added onto it along with better weaponry.
One thing I find interesting the Kampfer E type uses 4 Zudah engines for main thrust.
Amazing it didn't fall to pieces. It.must have been lightning fast compared to anything else at the time.
Zudah, Zeons unsung suit smh 😑
@@freespace2dotcom They had fixed the Zudah design later. The original had too much raw power output in the engines, apparently they had capped to the power output or provided better material heat shielding to those thrusters as a solution.
The Kampfer was such an awesome design and killer mobile suit! I'm just sad it created its own term of 'single episode MS' where a badass suit only has 1 episode to shine like the Gouf Custom!
3:20
The E could also mean "Einschlag", which means "Impact", or "Einbruch", which means "Breach" or "Breaching" (Though the latter is usually used in the context of "Collapse" or "Breaking and Entering"). Both make sense, since the MS-18E seems to be specialized for boarding actions of installations like colonies. It should be said that the one writing the backgrounds and names for the machines likely isn't a fluent german speaker, so a bit of liberal interpretation is to be expected.
It could also simply be a way to differ the various Kämpfer Variants and Specializations. You'd have the MS-18, which is the base model, and following that come the letters A to Z for the variations. the MS-18E would in turn simply be the fifth Mobile Suit, which would in turn mean that there'd be MS-18A, MS-18B, MS-18C, and so on floating around somewhere. Kinda like the MS-05A Zaku I that had an upgraded version, the MS-05B, and came up with further variants that used a different letter down the alphabet in their serial number, like the MS-05L Sniper Type, the MS-05S Commander Type, the MS-05Q retrofit version, and so on and so on.
However, this all is just theorizing on my part.
The Kämpfer exits
Alma: Can I have one please!!!
Irmela: OH HELL NO THAT THING CAN KILL YOU!!!. Let me make an overhaul first.
Later
Irmela: It’s done (Titania was born)
Alma: I love it thanks
I loved using the Kampfer in MS Saga: A New Dawn for the PS2. Speed was a major factor in that game and the Kampfer certainly excels in that area. Even just using parts of it on better mobile suits would make them go so much faster.
I really wish they made some sequels to that game.
This suit is more optimised than the new pokemon game.
I mean no shit it’s an advanced mobile suit
The Kampfer was meant to be a sledgehammer used to destroy any inner colony defenses so that a second wave of mobile suits may come in and mop up any remaining resistance. That is at least what I have interpreted the suit to be.
Einhauen is the correct meaning for E, it’s in the HG model instructions
Sure it's not something like 'Emil', seeing as the other known variations are labelled A, B and F, hinting at a similar naming convention to the BF109?
If the Kampfer had a better generator, it probably could've afforded to take more beam weapons, have more armor, and still have enough excess energy for it's powerful thrusters. In that scenario, it would've likely put up more of a fight against the Alex, and potentially even won.
It also would have been a hell of a lot harder to smuggle in and assemble, and probably would have just punched a hole clean through the colony, especially considering its pilot was on a drunken rampage at that point lol. As much as i love it, i think that was a fight the Kämpfer was destined to lose.
Yeeeeah, there's that legendary Zeonic Front music.
The gouf custom was the hero suit in zeonic front for me. Good armor and a heat saber.
still in progress for "the development of GM"?
There's a lot of GM history 😎
Jean-Luc Martel There’s a lot of GMs!
While I love the Zaku-II and the Gouf Custom, *this* is my favorite Zeon suit
The MS-18F Kämpfer Beam Type must be the basis for Code Fairy's MS-18NF Kämpfer Titania! It even uses the same beam machine gun as the Gelgoog Jager!
In Ecco de Ceil there's an uparmored beam weapon equipt version used by a Newtype pilot.
That is actually the prototype kampfer version
@@frangolemac1160 it was also described as being uparmored and improved for general combat. It was not the "stock" prototype.
Zeon : free to play, better pilots, bad armor, ballistic weapons, heat melee weapons
Fed : pay to win benefits, plus bonus armor
I love these videos Kakarot! I'm a huge MSV fan and I love seeing suits and stories that come from manga or games that we dont have access to really. Granted we all know the Kampfer, but the inclusion of the canon variant and the overall development of the suit is cool stuff!
So keep cranking out this awesome content!
You should make a playlist for these called "History"
Hedgehog? I got a bad feeling about that.
Blue hedgehog lol 😂 Sanic 😂
Gotta go fast.
I got the best feeling about that! huauhaua
Nothing personnel, earthnoid
Where is the damn fourth colony?
A mobile suit with the most werhaboo love built into it... it stole my young heart when I saw it in action. Zeon was good at doing that. Remember the goof duel at the end of 08th ms team?
One thing that always confused me, was why the Kämpfer supposedly had a "limited" operation time. The Gelgoog had comparable performance (despite having more armor) and a higher emphasis on beam weaponry, but from what I could gather, didn't have the same energy/fuel consumption problems.
The only other Mobile Suit I could find that had a limited operation time was the Gogg, and even then, that was only on land (because it relied on water to cool its thermonuclear hydro-jet engines).
Well it did have many thrusters throughout its body. From shoulders, chest, waist, and feet most likely but having that many thrusters on the body will consume much of its fuel if it kept going in burst of speed or full on thrust. That may be one reason, it is like a hit-and-run style MS for all the weapons its packing and how maneuverable it is. Its reactor/generator(forgot the name) is pretty high up there with many other suits, so it still have enough sustainability. Fuel is one of the major problems it can have, like I said before how it has many thrusters. One thing that couldve benefited more for the Kampfer was thicker armor.
Easily one of the top coolest suits in the franchise
You definitely need to do more of these, so enjoyable to just listen to, as well as gleen some new stuff from the lore, makes a change from just reading the wiki lol
Kämpfer is definitely in my top 10 favorite Mobile Suits of all time. Just wish it had more screen time!
Always nice to see the Development History videos. Kinda funny I just gave my friend my 0080 DVD yesterday.
And just in time for the Holidays!!! Thank you kakarot !!!
Considering F is a beam weapons type, I assume the letter in the Kampfer's model number is just sequential and the E is because A through D were already done or cancelled. Likely different specialized configurations.
One thing I like about the Kampfer is definitely the backpack, you carry around two bazookas on your back AND it functions as a jetpack. The prototype's machine gun is pretty cool
Another great video, would love to see a history of Gelgoog at some point.Keep'em coming man.
Aw man,my heart lit up when I recognized the Zeonic Front prep screen music.
Thank you so much for doing this vid on my favorite Mobile Suite!
the picture of the YMS-18 with "machine gun" is actually a MS-18F Beam Type having the Beam rifle of the MS-14 Gelgoog Jager, as both the Jagers and the Kampfers were manufactured at Axis
when you're about to post a comment about the picture and notice you already did, that over a year ago and forgot you already watched this video
almost did it again, holy shit
i love this videos specially when is about one of mi favorite mobile suits design, keep the good work men
Ah, love this mobile suit. It was made during the time when gundam was much more in its "real robot" roots then the current series that only seem to have gotten closer to "super robot".
If this mobile suit was designed today they would've made more super robot with have the thing glow with some bullshit psycho drive mcguffin. Also it wouldn't have thin armor and would be so fast it would look like a dbz fight.
That's the thing about true real robot settings. The only real way to get the speed of the kampfer is to sacrifice protection. Think of the kampfer along the same lines of a attack helicopter or a fighter jet. It packs a devastating payload, but its paper thin. It has to rely on its speed and the pilots actual skill and tactical awareness to keep from getting blown out of the sky from flack.
War in the pocket and 8th ms team are the only good "real robot" examples from the franchise that everyone seems to think is the definitive example of real robot. Gundam might've started the term, but its shows like "votoms" and "full metal panic" that actually follow closest to "real robot".
@Help Me over time I've grown more jaded with gundam. The unfortunate thing is that I love 8th ms and war pocket, but those are a rarity compared to the rest of gundam that has only gotten more soaked in the tropes of super robots, super kid pilots, and kid vrs the galaxy instead of war of 2 actual armies.
It invaded other franchises that initially started out real robot, like code geas with them making more super robots by the end of the series instead of treating it more seriously.
Sad we'll never get a zeon version of 8th me team. Way to much pro fed junk floating around
How realistic the robots are isn't even the big point of the entire franchise and it would be pointless to argue about it.
@@edwardbarillas7263 the point of the franchise is to sell model kits 1st, but it didn't used to be like that, it had to Express the concept that is usually at the heart of "real robot", and that was "war is hell", the concept itself is grounded in reality as its necessary to show that reality of war isnt Saturday morning cartoon cring or pre ww1 "war is where u earn honor and glory". Its hard to have the reality of war when the mecha are impossible to kill by lowly grunts and its kids with unrealistic goals that do hippy psionic aura clashes.
The OG gundam fell prey to the super robot tropes but it was one of the 1st series, they were still experimenting with the concept and the setting. 8th ms and war pocket are where they came closest to being true real robot, and ever since the series and seasons have only drifted further from the roots.
The robots have to be realistic in the setting and vulnerable, or you soon start to get into the superhero gundam mindset, where the protagonists is impenetrable to literal legions of mooks with their plot armor super gundam except when the enemy brings out their own super gundam/mobile armor.
I want a war story, not a super hero story.
@@animenut69 the closest we get are the full cgi animated zeon experimental case files, though these series are of questionable quality since the CGI is older and lower quality to many of today's standards (I'm fine with cgi mobile suits, but cgi characters that are done up in cgi look weird to me, would prefer more traditional animation).
Been loving both the gundam lore and development history series so far and wonder when the gm will get its video if at all
My favorite mobile suit! Such a beautiful hunk of blue metal!!
Keep up the videos like this I so enjoy them.
2 G's in UC79. That explains why it's covered in engines. And how it was able to fly along like that. I liked the Kampfer a lot, but I rarely remember it when I think about War In The Pocket.
Ah yes the MS-18F [Fairy] or also known as the Titania, i love how that come about, back then it wasn't known until Code Fairy came out.
Gorgeous suit, wish there were more variations
With the abundance of beam weapons later on in UC, maybe some reflective coatings could compensate for the thin armor. Maybe make it out of top shelf armor?
Love these videos!
CON: poor armor
PRO: you can cook a hamburger with it
Kaka posts *The Scarlet Team Nightmare* near December, good stuff 👌
Thank you the Kampfer is also a favorite of mine. Love the history of this
Not a bad video, but there is one thing you get wrong. The "YMS" prototype models are almost always more powerful than their less expensive mass production counterpart. Also the Kampfer E variant had less armor to make it lighter and faster, but also to make taking it appart and putting it back together simplier. It's purpose was not specifically to fight inside of colonies, but to be smuggled behind enemy lines, assembled, and ready to launch a surprise attack on a high value target. In War in the Pocket, that target as we all know was a Federation Mobile Suit, the Gundam Alex. Other than these detaiks which granted aren't easy to find, this video is pretty good. Hail Zeon.
please do Ez-8 development, this also a quite interesting machine 🙏
There was a another appearance of the Kampfer, in a Victory sidestory but it wasn't used in combat while it was with some other machines that were being stored for future use.
Thats the biggest mg42 i have ever seen being wielded by a Kampfer
Still my favorite Zeon designed suit. It just looks so good.
This is my all time favorite & imho, best zeon Mobile Suit.
I know I am most likely wrong.. But in my heart I felt like the Kämpfer was reborn as the AE Gerbera Tetra (which also found its debut to be horrific) only to lead AE to be redesigned into the Sinanju from a scaled down version of Sazabi. I might also add that I think the whole Kämpfer development was just an extension of the ill fated Zudah. This is just a development timeline that is just speculation. I think most of this is just based on mechanical designers that span 20+ years of being in love with the Kämpfer's design; wanting to bring it back in some form.
The Gerbera Tetra was originally the Gundam Gerbera and while the high speed part they have in common, it was also more of a general purpose assault mobile suit.
Sinanju is also a very general purpose mobile suit which gets it's routes from data acquired on both Nu Gundam and Sazabi. It was only meant to be a test bed for gathering data for Unicorn, and was likely not meant to serve any other function outside of that for the Federation unfortunately.
I like that you mentioned the Zudah, but it was developed by an entirely different company from the kampfer. The Zudah was designed and produced in limited batches by Zimmad company who would later go on to produce the very successful line of Dom mobile suits, as well as the hygogg, Gogg, and Gyan. I really am bummed out that there was never a Zudah Mk 2 to restore the Zudah's name.
The Kämpfer is one of my favorites of all time!
Love this kind of Gundam lore video.
This suit has a lot of untapped potential. Imagine if someone managed to find the blueprints to rebuild the Kampfer with upgraded parts and a newer, more powerful reactor, plus late UC beam weaponry.
If you want a Kamfer Cannon there's always the Kamfer Amazing
That's just build divers though. I'm just saying also
@@soksocks
It was in Build Fighters.
@@tyaty I know it was in Build Fighters. Its just not canon to the original due to it being a model kit in this series than other series. Plus if that was the case if the Kampfer was more developed, it might even be like the Kampfer Amazing in build fighters utilizing more beam weaponry than the beam sabers
Dara then why did you said Build Divers if you know it’s from build fighters tho? just saying...
@@Eclin look, I didn't really get into any of the divers/fighters as much, so I got mixed up from where it came from. Plus there wasn't a need to question at all
I'd love a gunpla of that Prototype Kampfer, at least if they can execute the gun right. It reminds me of the custom Gelgoog High Mobility Type from the Missing Link game.
Imagine the engineers having a seizure because you demand that they have to stamp an MG42 receiver the size of a bus.
Nice use of Zeonic Front music!!!
It’s my favorite mobile suite and can imagine gunpla battling with it!
Love it. Keep it up
Please bandai, GIVE THIS KIT A DAMN REVIVE.
If that thing had saved its loadout for the ALEX it probably would of won, but nope had to blow the heavy stuff on the fodders that didn't even get to look at you funny. And I gotta say the moment dude gets shredded by the ALEX's arm machine gun you actually felt sorry for the guy cause he got made into the most unholy form of swiss cheese
Those "fodders" were GM sniper 2's which were actually piloted by Federation veterans. Had he saved everything for Alex, he'd have been surrounded and killed off anyway.
I love the shape of the E's torso and i love its color.
My top fav grunt suits along with Gelgoog Jäger & Geara Zulu
when i first saw that thing, my thought was, thats not a zaku, hell its not even a gouf, it nearly destroyed me
Einschlagen = to smash in, Einhauen doesnt even exist so I ll just hope that they meant experimental.
Thanks for the info
I've always been a fan of the Kampfer (I pilot one in Gundam Breaker 3), even with its shortcomings. I view it as one of Gundam's most distinctive contributions to a basic tenet of armored vehicle design: Speed, firepower, protection. Pick two.
The E in ms18E is a reference to the tiger tank's model name pz vi E. The E is indeed referring to the German word for the number 1. Like the tank point pz6 e meaning tiger 1 so ms18E would mean kampfer 1.
i love these videos
Kampfer Bean Weapon Type is a cool idea for a custom kitbash
ahh...my no1 favorite Ms of all time, thanks kakarot
oh my # 1 favorite mech in gundam. I just hate the equipment that they gave it in 0080 war in the pockets. would have given it a Goof shield with Gatling attachment, a beam machine gun, a beam rifle and a machine gun.
If it had anything besides the beam sabers, the whole would've blown up just right there. Even though the generator is like 1550.
Interestingly we now have a picture of the beam weapon type with the new G frame kit that came out
think more realistically is that the designation MS-18 is homage to M18 hellcat which is a ww2 tank destroyer with paper armor that also what the Kampfer is known for..
But also its incredible speed and mobility of the M18 also shine which pretty much like the Kampfer.
For the E designation, this is something to argue. But if you see the MSM-07E which Z'GOK E is basically stand for Experimental... that is a reference for 0080 MS..... and so probably is a Experimental MS.
I finally found the video I’m looking for
welp after code fairy there a new kampfer
Oooh, when are you gonna update this to include the Titania?
Theres a new variant introduced since this aired, the MS-18NF
And now we have ground adapted MS-18E Kämpfer called "Titania", that operated during the last days of Zeon Ground Forces, defending Zeon's Cape Canaveral Base.
Was always thinking there were more Kampfer models, be nice to see them used in Battle Operations 2.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A VIDEO ABOUT UNIVERSAL CENTURY MOBILE ARMOUR DEVELOPMENT HISTORY ?
a better "German" word with "E" for Attack / Offensive would be "Eingreifen" it is often used in names of special forces like "Eingreiftruppe". "Eingreifen" could possibly be translated this way: "Ein greifen" = "one grab" or " one hit" or "one snatch".
check z'gok E from the same 0080 anime and you ll know that it has been quote in japanese saying is EXPERIMENTAL. Assume this applies to the kampher
The Kämpfer looks so cool.
Hey Kakarot, with Code Fairy, d'you think you might revisit the Kampfer?
I love how I just built one and then see this video
4:49 I take this to be the "Prototype Kampfer Cannon"....or it could just be the Kampfer Cannon.
1 reason why the jammer is my favorite mobile suit is it’s shotgun reminds me of the super shotgun from doom lol